User talk:RHaworth/2017 Jul 25
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deleted article 'GKR karate'
Dear R. Haworth, I've no other experience of creating Wikipedia pages than this one, which apparently you deleted Gkr karate. Is it really 5 years ago? If I remember rightly, I didn't publish it but kept it private, intending to edit it up to the point where it was worth publishing. I don't think I realized it could be deleted by an editor. Could I revive it, please - unpublished for now - so I can add to it and eventually publish it? Best wishes, Graham (talk) 18:58, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
- Learn: a) to provide a wikilink when you talk about a page, b) the difference between "published", ie. in (article) space and "private", ie. in draft: or user: space and c) how to read your own contributions history! I have emailed you the text of Gkr karate which was the one and only contribution from Naughtydog101 (talk · contribs). Unless they have cleaned up their act significantly in the last five years you should include the criticisms by the naughty dog and McDojo - assuming sound references can be provided. (By the way: only admins can delete pages but "private" stuff can certainly be deleted for a variety of reasons. I have deleted a few hundred myself.) — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:52, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
Emotional Speech Blocks Deletion Syndrome
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Sock & Image
Hi RHaworth, Could you also delete File:The door titles.jpg please as this too was uploaded by ZestyLemons, I've saved the image and source so will reupload however IMHO as we delete articles by socks we should also delete images by socks too, Thanks, – Davey2010Talk 16:14, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
- Done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:22, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Keith Ferrazzi
I saw a deletion discussion for Keith Ferrazzi and voted keep after cleaning it up, and the nominator went to the article and peppered it with hatnotes to influence the voting. Is that allowed? I asked him/her to be specific about concerns so they can be discussed and am not getting that.Talk:Keith Ferrazzi#Advertising.2C conflict if interest.2C notability TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 17:28, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
- No opinion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:22, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Your restoration of Danemann
Hi, RHaworth. I'm not sure I understand your deletion/restoration of Danemann. I tagged it for speedy as spam and because the text came from http://www.obriainpianos.com/page_145.html; you deleted it and restored it, twice, with 43 revisions out of the 50 restored the second time (with the comment "revert to non-spam, non-copyvio"). But my problem is that the way it looks now it's still all spammy, and still looks just like http://www.obriainpianos.com/page_145.html to me. Am I missing something? — Bishonen | talk 17:38, 3 July 2017 (UTC).
- Re #Reminder below: what's the hurry. Don't be so impatient. Check out the edits that I left deleted. It was one of those cases where the subject of a well-established article changes it to spam and it nearly gets deleted. As to that which is currently showing, I suspect the copyvio may be in the other direction. Let us see what Cathal O'Briain has to say. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:22, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
- Bishonen, please see talk:Danemann. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Another post (not part of Bishonen's)
Hi, I was making an article for a non-profit organization All Our Kin that I'm interning at this summer. I'm a Yale student, and the organization is almost 20 years old. Can you explain why you deleted the article? I have to write one, as it is an assignment that I need to complete. And I wanted to ensure that I do it correctly this time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashtan.towles (talk • contribs) 18:38, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
- Oh dear! The "what can we do with our intern - get them to write a Wikipedia article" syndrome. "Need to complete" indeed! Oh dear again - what dire fate awaits you if you don't complete? Go to your supervisor and tell them from me: kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your organisation is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:22, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Yet another post, also not part of Bishonen's
All Wedgies and related pranks. You deleted this under G3: Vandalism. This was an original post and not vandalism. I had no chance to give a reason to not delete the post, because it was marked for speedy deletion and speedy it was. The original/official Wedgie page was mostly describing a 'regular'. In my article, I was going to fit all of the wedgie types I am aware of into one page plus pranks administered along with them. I know the original one had related pranks, but I didn't feel like the pranks listed were connected to wedgies. I was going to make a more connected web of pranks usually done with wedgies and *all* wedgie types. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikitributoranon (talk • contribs) 19:47, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
- Noted. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:22, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
You may wish to revoke talk page access as well. -- Cahk (talk) 07:21, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
- Done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:22, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Peninsula Distribution LTD - speedy deletion
Hello, You deleted a draft of an article about Peninsula Distribution LTD for Unambiguous copyright infringement, however we have contacted Peninsula Distribution LTD and this issue has been rectified and we have permission to do the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guffickj (talk • contribs) 09:02, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
- Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:22, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Can you please restore this draft? It was not unambiguously promotional and the creator had previously requested it's restoration and had disclosed as per our policies. This is the point of AfC draft space. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 17:15, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
- For what it's worth I endorse an undeletion. Happy to modify it to remove the guff if necessary. Primefac (talk) 17:22, 4 July 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)
- WP:What Wikipedia is not, WP:Criteria for speedy deletion and WP:Deletion policy and Terms of Use support removal of violations of WP:Paid ("on any contributions", and disclosure is necessary) since all of the relevant edit summaries or the userpage did not contain the necessary disclosure each time. Because it was so promotional, it was not improved and therefore shows the promotionalism becomes WP:Disruptive. A second chance for the user to improve and without the necessary actions is enough to show the user couldn't make it satisfactory. SwisterTwister talk 18:53, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
- SwisterTwister Perhaps you missed the giant disclosure that was on the top of the draft and their username. They hadn't resubmitted it for awhile and if you took issue with the content (that was not in violation of any policy) you should have taken it to MfD. Merely having a conflict of interest or being a disclosed paid editor does not automatically qualify any content they create for G11.CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 18:59, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
- The contents were clear violations of the three policies I first mentioned. Not only single of the day "Drafts are exempt from deletion", in fact they say it applies to all pages, mainspace or not. Even with disclosure or not, it was clearly material unacceptable in Wikipedia's goals, which is therefore enough. As it says at MfD, contents that were controversial, and advertising is not at all controversial to remove, especially when it showed it was hopelessly promotional after 2 times. Also, again please don't ping. Actually, G11 says exactly that: "anything that would need a fundamental rewrite". FWIW, I would only support an undeletion as long as actually use a Foundation policy about it which is what our own policies adopt. Without it, there's no benefit to an encyclopedia. SwisterTwister talk 19:09, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
- It is standard procedure to ping someone when responding on a talk page that is not their own. You seem unable to understand this policy - they disclosed, no where in this policy does it require every edit to disclose when it is very clear to anyone who can read that they are either a paid editor or have a conflict of interest when the notice is plastered to the top of the page and they are the only one editing the draft and their username clearly also identifies their conflict. Since you seem so keen on Wiki-lawyering: You must make that disclosure in at least one of the following ways. (emphasis mine). CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 19:22, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
- The contents were clear violations of the three policies I first mentioned. Not only single of the day "Drafts are exempt from deletion", in fact they say it applies to all pages, mainspace or not. Even with disclosure or not, it was clearly material unacceptable in Wikipedia's goals, which is therefore enough. As it says at MfD, contents that were controversial, and advertising is not at all controversial to remove, especially when it showed it was hopelessly promotional after 2 times. Also, again please don't ping. Actually, G11 says exactly that: "anything that would need a fundamental rewrite". FWIW, I would only support an undeletion as long as actually use a Foundation policy about it which is what our own policies adopt. Without it, there's no benefit to an encyclopedia. SwisterTwister talk 19:09, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
- The main important thing here is that there's no proof anywhere that Drafts are exempt from speedy deletion yet our 3 policies approve of it, therefore inarguable. SwisterTwister talk 21:22, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
- Hi, please show me where I've ever said that "content in draft space is exempt from speedy deletion criteria." The issue here is not that there's no "proof." The issue here is that you've been disruptive, yet again to the point of being WP:POINTY, bordering on casting aspersions and have been proven wrong after making unfounded accusations and attempting to support a bad argument with policy that directly contradicts what you're saying. Since you seem so fond of quoting WP:NOT perhaps give this a once over: WP:bureaucracy. I also believe you're already familiar with WP:COIN. That's where your accusations of UPE/UCOI belong. It's not what G11 is for. Speedy deletion isn't a punishment for breaking the rules, it's meant to preserve the integrity of the encyclopedia. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 22:07, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, I agree with Primefac that the draft should be undeleted. Is it too promotional to become a live article? Yes. Is it unsalvageable and starting over is easier than improving the draft? I don't think so. Thus the CSD don't apply. WP:NOT doesn't apply because it's clearly meant to be an encyclopedia article about a company. I don't see how the deletion policy is violated by the draft, and SwisterTwister hasn't made a case unless it was meant to be a redundant duplicate of the CSD. Huon (talk) 00:03, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, not all COI articles are spam. Only 90% of them are. If it is from a paid editor, probably 95%. It's more than a little difficult to fairly pull out of the heap the other 5 or 10%, and when the COI is as blatant as this, and the article as bad as this, and it has been turned down or deleted so many times, and the eventual notability so very borderline, it is probably not really worth our while to attempt to rescue what will never be an article.
- And the person who tagged the article has no need to make a case for deletion, nor should they be blamed for it--the deletion is the responsibility of the deleting administrator. DGG ( talk ) 04:53, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
- DGG FWIW, I agree it's the responsibility of the deleting administrator, however since ST butted into my request here, that is why the rest was brought up, since he wrongly implied this was a policy violation. I agree that this may not be notable however I do think G11 was a bad deletion and if there was an issue, it should have been taken to MfD, not speedy since A7 also doesn't apply in draft space and I see no harm in a resurrection to see if it can be adequately made as an article. If not, no harm, no foul and the encyclopedia is no worse off for having it as a draft for a couple of months. I, of all people, am not hesitant to tag spam, but as I said, I do not believe the last iteration of this met that criteria. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 05:03, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
- What a lot of waffle! Swister, please try and write in comprehensible English. It is in draft space so the rules about spam are less strict. The author has declared their CoI. So restore it. Swister, if you are not prepared to grant it six months more life, raise the matter at MfD. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:22, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
- Well, apparently he couldn't wait six months. He's already listed it at MfD. Waggie (talk) 02:12, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Reminder
Hi again, RHaworth. Not sure if you saw my post above?[1] I still have trouble understanding your deletion/restoration of Danemann. It looks to me like the version you restored is as much a copyvio as the one I speedied. Bishonen | talk 18:55, 4 July 2017 (UTC).
- Replied above. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:22, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Deleted Page
Hi, I think you deleted a page I just created. Would you kindly help me restore it? Much appreciated, Simran — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simranjeetsingh1 (talk • contribs) 01:01, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a social networking site. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks you are notable and writes about you here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Ms Malik (hmalik)
Ms Malik (hmalik) which you just deleted was a sockpuppet's recreation of Ms Malik which had been salted. Could you salt Ms Malik (hmalik) please? Cabayi (talk) 11:45, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, Cabayi (talk) 15:48, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
My deleted article
Why? — GolfingIreland (talk) 12:05, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Why what? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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working to improve and building Wikipedia what it stands for. Light2021 (talk) 13:02, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
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Please flit away
Iași International Festival of Literature and Translation (FILIT). Is there any way we could The International Festival of Literature and Translation (FILIT-Iași) stop having to deal with this] every few days? - Biruitorul Talk 16:32, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Please learn about wikilinks. If it happens again I will consider blocking LDT. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Paul George back to semi protection
Hey RHaworth. Bagumba recently increased protection on Paul George to admin-only due to content disputes regarding a transaction he is involved with. That transaction, a trade, has now been completed and made official [2] [3], so the page can be returned back now to semi-protect edit mode. I logged a request at Bagumba's talk page, but he is currently inactive. With this being a pressing event, the page needs to be returned back to allow confirmed users to edit the page to reflect the trade being officially announced. If you could help out, that would be much appreciated. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 17:48, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Hi again. Did you mean to change the page to * indefinite* admin access only? Or was that a mistake? DaHuzyBru (talk) 17:55, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- See my reply here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Use of U5
Hi RHaworth. I think you may have been a bit trigger happy with User:Finnistgramje. This editor appears to have been attempting to add encyclopedic information about the marriage of a notable individual (Robert Rinder). I think you may have mistaken it for discussing a random marriage. ~ Rob13Talk 19:28, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- Hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finnistgramje (talk • contribs) 09:37, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
- If Finnistgramje can manage more than three keystrokes, I will consider a request from them. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
- Please could you put the page of mine you deleted back up please as I cannot see what’s wrong with it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Finnistgramje (talk • contribs) 17:50, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
- New messages should be placed at the bottom of the page or, as in the case of this one, at the bottom of the thread to which they relate. They should be signed with ~~~~ . They should include link/s to the page/s about which you are talking - important in this case because there is more than one involved. Despite all that, I will tell you that I have now restored all of your edits. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:18, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
G5
You deleted Category:20th-century American male comedians et al, but the account that created them wasn't blocked. Was that an oversight? I imagine they'll resume mass editing if left alone. —Xezbeth (talk) 19:48, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
- You would need to ask Binksternet (talk · contribs) why they thought JustaguyontheInternet (talk · contribs) is a sock of JP8077 (talk · contribs). As far as I am concerned, they were deleted simply as empty categories. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, the JustaguyontheInternet account should be indeffed as a sock of JP8077. Other recent socks doing the same thing were ResidentofPlanetEarth and JohnfromLondon. See the sockpuppet archives for more information. Binksternet (talk) 14:30, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
- Done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:18, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
sharingXchange
Hi, can you please help me? I have created few times now a page, called sharingXchange and it gets delete it every time. Now I know why, but why Tripadvisor is not delete it? This is a double standart... Why other businesses can be included but not this one? Please, help me. Kindly, Articulis26 Articulis26 (talk) 10:39, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
- Alex, kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your site is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Teo here, thank you Alex. I will wait then and sorry for being impatient. I will refer the information and please do help me :). Kind regards and have a nice weekend. Articulis26 (talk) 12:44, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Micronational Assembly wiki deletion
Good evening, I am the audit for the Micronational Assembly (A UN-style organization for Micronations) we have over 50 Participating members list found here: [4]. and I believe that our Wikipedia page was wrongfully deleted as though, the micronational assembly is not a made up and is completely a legitimate organization. Thank you and have a nice day, Kyle Cloutier MA Audit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:281:C900:E90:B0A0:2E59:EA80:86A (talk) 18:09, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
Robert Quintanillo Olivores
Hi, I note that back in June 2015, you deleted Robert Quintanillo Olivores, a page created by User:Tejanohistory. I can't see what was in the deleted article, but as of late there have been many attempts to insert what appears to be an article which I suspect is what was deleted, into several pages, 4th & B'way Records, Cherrytree Records, Mercury Records (this one was self reverted), Safehouse Records and possibly others. There was also a page Robert Quintanillo Olivares which was deleted by another admin back in 2014 I believe.
Users involved have been User:Universal Music Distributor, User:Cherrytree Distributor (both blocked), User:Cherrytree Music Inc. and others, including several IPs most recently User:2601:2C1:4380:2280:53E:4863:3837:CA82. Fairly obviously all or most of these are socks. I'm hoping you can track them all down easier that I can and possibly protect some of the pages. Thanks. Dan D. Ric (talk) 11:49, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
Note that none of these insertions contained any actual references, though at least one contained a fake reference linked to Undefined. — Dan D. Ric (talk) 11:51, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
Correction, I see that Robert Quintanillo Olivares was only deleted this past February. — Dan D. Ric (talk) 12:01, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- Dan, the article Robert Quintanillo Olivares was created on 2017 Feb 02 by TheWikipediaGuide (talk · contribs) who I have blocked. I not sure what else you want me to track down. The level of disturbance is not enough to justify protecting any pages and even blocking users is pointless if they are into sock puppetry. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:02, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello! Do you still have the text from the page you deleted (linked in inquiry title) so I can put it in my sandbox? Thank you! WeCouldBeHeroes (talk) 18:10, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
- WeCouldBeHeroes, there is no place for the text here until the recording is actually announced. I am willing to email you the text - read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:02, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
RHaworth I already obtained the text by the time of your reply. Thank you for your offer. WeCouldBeHeroes (talk) 17:56, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
FYI
Hello RH. I wanted to let you know that the article that you deleted Uniquesanjay (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) has now had a post made to its talk page by the editor with the same name as the article. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 18:04, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
- Now fixed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:02, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
Sam Amidon artist picture
Hi there! Thanks for bringing this to my attention, I thought I had attributed all the correct licensing info for this picture but I guess not. I have the written permission of the photographer to use her photo on Wikipedia so this isn't copyright infringement, and therefore I would still like to post it to the page - please could you help me by letting me know if I need to re-upload the image, or do I request for undeletion? Many thanks! -- Kpendleton1 (talk) 10:36, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
- Images of living people are only allowed under a {{cc-by-sa-4.0}} or compatible licence. Is the photographer willing to release under these terms? No - give up. Yes - upload as a JPG to the Commons and do the necessary to show that the licence terms are valid. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:02, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
End-user security awareness
I figured I'd start here in hopes of getting a draft restored. I had a draft on end-user security awareness where I pulled five bullet points from a blog that reposted them from another study. I cited the bullet points to the blog with what I thought was a proper citation. Is there any chance I can get my draft restored and remove the section marked for copyright? I simply will use the full report and cite the data myself if that was the problem. Thanks RHawroth, I appreciate your time! (edited again while logged in to sign correctly) — Preceding unsigned comment added by J235711 (talk • contribs)
- Good: you realised I might ignore an anonymous message but bad: you left it at the top of the page, you did not sign with ~~~~ and you cannot even copy-and-paste my name. I accept that only a bit was a copyvio. I suspect that you may have a CoI of some sort but I have restored it. Please get rid of all the spurious capitals. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:02, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure I'm void of any CoI, I'm actually doing some research on the topic and was stunned to find that nothing on the Wiki really talked about it. To make sure I don't fall like wheat to the scythe again, when you say "spurious capitals" I assume you mean the quoted stats from the blog post and those alone. Is anything else in the draft deceptive in its presentation of purpose? — J235711 (talk) 01:37, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- Spurious capitals! For goodness sake: what title did you give the article and what title has it now? In fact I had fixed most of the cases by the time you wrote the above and I think this edit fixed the rest. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:03, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Self-balancing fork
I notice that you deleted Self-balancing scooter (personal transporter) without any comment in response to the two separate responses to the challenge in supporter of retention on the associated talk page (which has now been deleted). Could you reconsider or provide some reasoning please? — PeterEastern (talk) 04:52, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
I notice that you have now removed the hat from self-balancing scooter. Can I draw you attention to my request to have it undeleted here: Requests for undeletion#Self-balancing scooter (personal_transporter) page. Thanks. PeterEastern (talk) 09:49, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- Replied on the requests for undeletion page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:03, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
I can see that.. However... can you provide me with access the the content that has disappeared overnight so that I can make use of it? Personally I still think a new article is justified (and that the current article of that name should be renamed as 'hoverboard (self balancing)' or something), but I do agree with you that we should discuss that within the talk pages of the appropriate articles. For now I would like to merge the content that was deleted into Personal transporter as you suggest. Could you dump it into a sandpit area of my user page possibly? PeterEastern (talk) 10:15, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Now available in my sandpit. Thanks. PeterEastern (talk) 11:49, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
University of Economics - Varna
Dear Mr Haworth, Greetings from the University of Economics - Varna! Recently, you deleted Wiki page regarding the University of Economics - Varna in Russian language. The text of the Wiki page is similar to the English version, because the information is about our state university. Please, reconsider the deletion of that page, because we would like to have a proper representation of our university in the Russian version of Wikipedia. Thank you for considering my request. Best Regards, Nevena Dobreva, Head of International Relations Office, University of Economics - Varna — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.50.20.62 (talk) 06:37, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- I should really refuse to reply: you edit anonymously and you do not link to the page about which you are talking. (And if you had logged in, I could have blocked your account for representing more than one person - joke!) The simple fact is that I have never touched any article about the university on the Russian Wikipedia and I can do nothing to prevent you creating it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:03, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
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A tag has been placed on Raffles Institution String Ensemble, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent. If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Muggershell (talk) 08:28, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) @Muggershell: Which I have just declined with the edit summary 'G1 Declined. Clearly a demonstratably useful redirect, and in any case that criterion does not apply (in NO way is it 'consisting purely of incoherent text or gibberish with no meaningful content or history).' Please brush up your understanding of the (in)applicability of speedy-deletion criteria before continuing in this vein, many thanks. — fortunavelut luna 08:47, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
BeHorizon
Dear R. Haworth, I have created article "Behorizon" I don't have so much experience in creating Wikipedia pages but I have checked some similar ones such as [[5]] before. It was not advertising like "follow this" or "this is the best you could find". It contains only encyclopedic data. Any idea how to do it without tackling advertisement barrier? Best wishes, [Feyezan] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kemalfeyezan (talk • contribs) 22:33, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
- Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your organisation is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:59, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Weird deletion
You deleted a Draft as U1 [6] which is Draft space not User space which seems incorrect Then an editor who was improving the page (but did not get creation credit for the first version) promptly recreated the article minus the sources and AfC comments. It popped on my watchlist. Can you look at the deleted page and new page and consider restoring the deleted page if it is the better version? I'm wondering if they are trying to game AfC because the page is pretty promotional. Or maybe the deletion was some sort of error. — Legacypac (talk) 00:56, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
- Weird indeed! I did the right deed but gave the wrong reason. As you can see from the restored text, there was an unambiguous request to delete. OK, I should have changed the reason to "one author has requested". But the weird thing is why she threw away all those references! But don't wonder - ask Laurarodrigues (talk · contribs)! — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:26, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Access to deleted article Yeahmobi
Hi, I was sorry to see that the article Yeahmobi was deleted, and I want to say that I am still working on it and forgot to save a copy in my own computer. So could you please send the article to my E-mail address so that I can continue to improve it. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alicialiu1994 (talk • contribs) 03:42, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
- Text emailed but kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:32, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
Talk:ABC Studios (Australia)
You recently deleted Talk:ABC Studios (Australia) - reasonably on the face of it, as WP:G8, but were you aware of WP:AWNB#ABC Studios? The content of Talk:ABC Studios (Australia) might merely have been misplaced. Please restore the page, at least until there is some feedback (possibly your own) at WP:AWNB#ABC Studios. — Mitch Ames (talk) 12:11, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
- Restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:23, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:48, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
No evidence of what? It would be useful for evaluating the merits of the prod if you could elaborate. Thanks, Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) If you reply here, please ping me by using {{re|Ks0stm}} in your reply. 04:35, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- Ks0stm, do the words "references", "external links" and "co-ords" suggest anything to you? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:58, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
I mean, they help somewhat, but I was trying to decide if you meant no evidence of notability, no evidence that it exists at all (i.e. hoax), etc. There are a lot of things there could be no evidence of. I see that it was deleted as "no evidence of notability", which is fine by me. I just didn't want to delete with the only public reason being a generic "no evidence". — Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) If you reply here, please ping me by using {{re|Ks0stm}} in your reply. 21:46, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- Ks0stm, what a crazy, unside-down attitude. "No evidence" means just that - no evidence of any sort. It is therefore a much stronger reason for deletion than "no evidence of notability". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:33, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Yeah? Ok. We'll go with that then. — Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) If you reply here, please ping me by using {{re|Ks0stm}} in your reply. 03:42, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Article deletion, question
RHaworth, Yesterday, July 15, you deleted an article on the Board of Certified Safety Professionals (BCSP), which I created to clean up an existing article on one of its certifications certified safety professional. The page on the CSP has been added to by various organizations over the years and now contains many tangential topics not related to the certification itself. Seeing that the Board of Canadian Registered Safety Professionals established a wikipedia page, I sought to create one for the Board of Certified Safety Professionals, and clean up the Certified Safety Professional wikipedia page. Is there a way to have this restored? What was objectionable about the original copy that requires changes? I will gladly make those in order to restore the page. Best, Kiholmes (talk) 15:11, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
- Inability to create wikilinks is one of the signs of CoI and I should probably be intoning my "kindly" mantra. But I have taken pity on you and restored it to draft:Board of Certified Safety Professionals. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:58, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Distances between
Why was my page distancesbetween.com deleted? I was still working on my page. Since I am new to wikipedia, I did not know that Save Page will publish a page and it will be under review. Please retain the article. It is not yet complete. It was deleted when I was in the process of editing it. -- Juhimateen (talk) 10:34, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your site is notable and writes about it here. If you really insist on trying to force an article in, do so via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:58, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
Coverwallet
Hi Roger, I was creating a wiki entry for the company coverwallet but the page was marked for speedy deletion so I didn't have further opportunity to keep adding documentation on it. I would like to understand with you why the company does not represent significance to appear on wikipedia, being awarded important prizes and employing more than 70 people. I'm happy to review with you your point of view on the subject and apply the changes you think may be necessary to introduce the company in wikipedia, considering that companies in the same category have been included Insureon. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mememax (talk • contribs) 12:30, 17 July 2017 (UTC)
- Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here.
I'm sorry if I may have seem rude to edit, it wasn't the intention. Is there a place I can request a review for the significance of my company, or should I just wait for someone to talk about it in this space? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mememax (talk • contribs)
- If you really insist on trying to foist an article upon us, go to DRV. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:33, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Recombinase-mediated cassette exchange
Hi RHaworth. This was a while ago, but I noticed you deleted File:RMCE.PNG back in 2013 as a G7. I posted this over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Genetics, but I wanted to copy it here too: A friendly reader contacted the WP:OTRS team the other day and pointed out that the two figures in the Recombinase-mediated cassette exchange article are identical and that the caption to Figure 1 doesn't seem to make sense. I took a look and, indeed, the two figures, which have different captions that refer to different things, are both copies of File:RMCE2.PNG. A while ago, the article had another image, the now-deleted image File:RMCE.PNG. I think an error might have been made here, and I think File:RMCE.PNG should be undeleted and restored in the place of "Figure 1" in the article. Do you have any thoughts? Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 02:26, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
- I have no idea how file:RMCE.PNG ever came to my attention. Now restored. I leave you to sort out its usage. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:33, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Please reinstate this article. Jorge is a professional association footballer. Simione001 (talk) 09:41, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
- For goodness sake! Look at the log! Go to draft:Jorge Ortega and turn it into a proper and properly referenced article. When you think it is ready, click on the "submit" link. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:33, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
deletes article 'Xi'an Muslim Quarter
Hello, I have already contested the speedy deletion by explaining that I am in the process of adding content to the page. You should have some consideration for time differences and people's need to eat, sleep etc. Actually, you deleted the page within an hour of my last edit, which was an almost immediate response to the speedy deletion tag. Your lack of patience is unfair. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dorisyong (talk • contribs) 11:40, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
- Please learn: new messages go at the bottom of talk pages; always provide a link when you talk about an article. It is article suicide to try and develop in mainspace. Try again via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:41, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
- I'd say very, very dangerous rather than suicide. I *have* pulled it off, but for pages about older defunct fraternities and sororities (and where I had access to Baird's Manual of American College Fraternities and a history book for the fraternity/sorority that they merged with) *and* I put in the Under construction tag *and* I worked on it more or less constantly. — Naraht (talk) 14:31, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
I don't understand what cross linking is and why the page was deleted. Please explain, thanks, Daniel Lechay (talk) 18:57, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
- Cross-linking is explained here if you only bother to look. As to why James Lechay was deleted, read this. (You might also find it useful to look at your contributions history.) — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:57, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Cross-linking is explained here
Actually it isn't. cross-link is an article about polymer chain linking, and is not relevant to this article (which is now in draft form, nearly ready for mainspace, at Draft:James Lechay). Wikipedia:CROSS LINKED redirects to Wikipedia:The End#Why are policies circular? which might be relevant, but isn't really very helpful in my view. The useful page is Wikipedia:Cross-namespace redirects, which has a shortcut of WP:XNR. — DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 00:18, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Third time removed speedy. Not much more I can do. If you could do whatever honours you feel need to be done. Take care, — fortunavelut luna 13:05, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Cheers, appreciated! — fortunavelut luna 13:10, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Draft: AeroSource India
Hi, You deleted my draft that I was preparing: Draft:AeroSource India. I would like to clarify that it was not copied from that website and whatever was being written first hand. However the company seems to have the same description of it floating around, would request you to reinstate the article as a draft and also help me to make qualify for approval. It would be of great help. Thank you, Kushal B Kusram — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kushalbkusram (talk • contribs) 10:15, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
- Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:15, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
SPI
Re Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Amaury: may I ask why? — Callmemirela 🍁 talk 11:36, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
Flag speedy deletions
You recently deleted the redirects 🏴 , 🏴 , and 🏴 under WP:R3. In what sense are they “typos or misnomers”? — Gorobay (talk) 19:19, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
- I have just tried on three different computers and on all three these redirects just appear as small squares or blanks or similar. Clearly they are using a very rare font that very few machines have. So tell me: what would I see if the fonts were installed? What earthly purpose do they serve? They cannot be used as search terms and they are not being used in any articles. I have a good mind to delete all 300 of the similar that you have created. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:15, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
They would look like the flags of various subnational regions. An example, with images so you can see it, is at http://emojipedia.org/flag-for-england/. The purpose is so that people who do have the fonts installed can search for them. They are not typos, misnomers, nonsense, invalid, unsearchable, or vandalism, so if you want to delete them, please take them to WP:RFD where they can be discussed. Please don’t unilaterally speedy-delete them per R3 when R3 does not apply, just because you personally see them as squares. — Gorobay (talk) 13:15, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
E-wing
Hello R Haworth, You recently deleted an attached file to the article Anne Ewing. I do not understand why. Is it because it was the wrong format (PDF vs. JPG)? Or is there another reason. I do not understand Wiki syntax well and the help pages are extremely hard for me to parse. I'd appreciate some advice. My original intention was to attach the PDF to provide a more detailed understanding of how the textbook requirements were changed. Thank you. SDFeminist2.0 (talk) 00:30, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
- The PDF was totally useless for Wikipedia purposes. It is a primary source which we do not hold here. Upload it to your own website and then link to it from the article. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:15, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
SFG Company
Hello, my first wiki page SFG Company has been deleted by you recently. It is going to be a wiki description of Ukrainian IT and media company SFG: Could you please describe how I can continue to develop this page? Maybe what should I consider the most while its creating. Appreciate your time and help. Kind regards, Alex Chumakov. Ideainfected (talk) 10:05, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
- Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:15, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
Sunny Pawar (Social Activist)
Hello, May I please understand the reason as to why this page was deleted? Sunny Pawar is a Social Activist based in Mumbai and has done commendable work wrt social service, etc. and has got press coverage for the same as well and I wish to have him on Wikipedia. Can you please tell me what went wrong or what changes can I do for the same? — VidhiV (talk) 11:00, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
- You quoted the deletion log entry in full here but clearly you had not actually read it. One single reference was not considered sufficient "indication of importance or significance". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:15, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
PRODs
Hi RHaworth, I appreciate your good faith concerns regarding the articles Hripsime's School for Girls (Yerevan), Fridtjof Nansen Museum, and Civil Aviation Museum (Armenia). It appears these articles were created by a new and inexperienced user. So I decided to improve them. I've added sources to these articles to fix these urgent concerns. Hopefully that'll be enough justification to remove these PRODs. Thanks! Étienne Dolet (talk) 19:55, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
- Total absence of references to information in English so impossible for me to tell whether there are independent references. In the Nansen case: a) the grammar seems to break down circa "Refugees, Fridtjof Nansen in the design" and b) it would be interesting to know what the connection is between Nansen and Yerevan. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:15, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Aphrodice Mutangana
Hi, Can I please understand the reason for why the page Aphrodice Mutangana was deleted? The page was well-sourced, with different references and signifiers of importance. (I am replying from an alternate account from the one that created the page as I do not have its password). Thank You! User:Mool2323 (talk) 11:00, 24th July UTC.
- Kindly have the decency to wait until someone who a) has no CoI and b) does not forget passwords, thinks this guy is notable and writes about him here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:15, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Lutontownfc Sandbox
You deleted the Sandbox I worked so hard on. I put almost everything that came into my head into that Sandbox, such as imaginary people, characters, boxers and plans for a story. Now it has been deleted, I'd like to find a way to have this page back. I never intended to move the page to this mainspace thing, I just wanted to change the name of the Sandbox. I don't think you even have the right to delete some drafts for pages I never even intended to make. That was private content that I never wanted others to view. I demand that you get my Sandbox back, no matter what! — Lutontownfc (talk · contribs) 20:45, 24 July 2017 (GMT)
- Lutontownfc, when you post anything to Wikipedia, even in a sandbox, you make it public and agree that anyone may edit it in any way, and that anyone may view it, or copy it, repost it elsewhere, or even sell it. Nor is Wikipedia to be used as a free web host for things "never intended" for the article mainspace. "Demands" are not likely to be taken seriously. Polite requests possibly might. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 02:53, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- What a barefaced cheek! You admit to using Wikipedia as a free host and then you have the effrontery to demand that the page be restored. If you promise to keep your fantasies a long way from Wikipedia and ask me nicely, I will email you the content of the page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:03, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of Peoplesopen.net article
The article was deleted under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion. The Peoplesopen.net organization and the network that it has built serves hundreds to thousands of people on a daily basis, and most likely has served millions over its 4 year history, owing to its operation in a high population metropolitan area. The above fits the guidelines for Wikipedia:Credible claim of significance. l also wrote a protest using the protest link from the speedy deletion template, citing the above, as well as an NPR audio (not text) report featuring Peoplesopen.net that can be listened to at the WBUR radio website. The article's subject fits the guidelines for Wikipedia:Notability. The protest in the talk section of the page has also been deleted within the day without any apparent review. Please restore the deleted page so l can add the claims and citaion. If l don't see the page restored or hear from you within a few days, l will rewrite the page from scratch. — Ellesmelle (talk) 10:49, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
- I am dubious about its notability and certainly you made absolutely no attempt to provide evidence of its notability. No need to re-write from scratch - read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:03, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
l see you've responded on this talk page then deleted my message to you as well as your own response. Again, this article fits the Wikipedia:Credible_claim_of_significance criteria. — Ellesmelle (talk) 20:09, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
How to reverse a deletion?
18:34, 23 July 2017 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page User talk:Yfire/sandbox How do we get it back? I tried to respond to Chris Troutman but for some reason got no response: 20:59, 20 July 2017 Hut 8.5 Chris Troutman (talk | contribs) deleted page User:Yfire/sandbox
What I said was that... 1-I am the owner of the web page that was similar to http://davidr.net/charts.html 2-That web page is now gone.
I can find NO reference to this matter anywhere on your page(s) nor Chris' page(s). Maybe I do not know what I am doing? Further, I am willing to contribute the material to Wiki if that helps and I can figure out how to do it. Hope this makes sense. Thanks David R (have mercy on a former Surrey resident), Yfire (talk) 15:23, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Deletion of User:Lutontownfc/Sandbox
Hi RHaworth, can you explain why you deleted User:Lutontownfc/Sandbox? It was a sandbox / test page for @Lutontownfc:. Lutontownfc requested the page to be undeleted at my talk page. — Natg 19 (talk) 19:06, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Hello. You salted the above because of repeated recreation. I wonder if you could unsalt it so that the expanded/referenced Draft:Lautaro Comas could be moved there. thanks, Struway2 (talk) 19:59, 25 July 2017 (UTC)