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At Home With Cherry Twister

At Home With Cherry Twister (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Does not appear to meet WP:NMUSIC. I can find no evidence that the album charted, or won any awards. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 14:10, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep: AllMusic and the New Zealand Herald are both reliable sources and those reviews are solid. The Borack book entry is basically a review in itself, and also a solid one. Seems like enough to meet GNG/NMUSIC#1 to me. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 18:47, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep - Pro reviews and other coverage are sparse, but there is enough for the type of basic article that is common for an album of this magnitude. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:59, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

What "magnitude", though? That's the problem. I can find no evidence the album charted at all. We don't have articles for every album, only notable ones. Meanwhile, sites like AllMusic will review a multitude of releases, because, well, that's their business. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 15:06, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

• Merge with Cherry Twister. The sources are fine, but really a bit thin for a standalone article. Both the band article and the album article are short, which makes the merger beneficial. Geschichte (talk) 20:11, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge with Cherry Twister: Does not appear to be a notable album. This was the only sort of a review I could find [1], but a blog... Didn't chart or make any sales records, so I don't see notability. If we have one more review in media, I'd reconsider. I've looked in Gnewspapers, nothing comes up. Oaktree b (talk) 01:47, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  Well, there's this [2], it looks to be a reprint of a music blog though. Oaktree b (talk) 01:48, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Red Barrels

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Fails WP:NCORP. There seems to be no significant coverage. The focus of the sources are the Outlast games, not the company itself. Suggesting redirection to Outlast as an alternative to deletion. Mika1h (talk) 18:48, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to its claim to fame (Outlast). --CNMall41 (talk) 20:15, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep there is clear coverage in at least two existing sources (edge and gi.biz) about the founding of the company that meet the independence of NCORP. That might be tied to talking about Outlast but that's expected for a developer that has focused on one series since founding. Masem (t) 21:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Are you referring to the edge article currently on the page?--CNMall41 (talk) 21:59, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

I agree that gi.biz is SIGCOV, but that Edge article (about Assassin's Creed) only has a passing mention to the company. --Mika1h (talk) 12:57, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

That's why I was wondering as the Edge article on the page is no where near meeting WP:ORGCRIT. The gi.biz is an industry publication so while it meets ORGCRIT, it is still not enough and not that strong of a reference to meet NCORP standards. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:15, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Comment: It appears their sole product, the Outlast series, would be more notable. Could this be retooled into a series article? IgelRM (talk) 11:27, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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Jimmy Rex

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Total promo nonsense article, sourced to passing mentions with nothing meaningful in the way of actual coverage - and the only mentions of Rex are again, in passing, if even that. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 19:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Dont label an article that I spent my time and effort working on nonsense. Talk to me with respect. Cokeandbread (talk) 20:04, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Weak delete: I was asked to review this article earlier. I tagged it as relying too heavily on primary sources. It seems like with how long this person has been around and the circles they trade in it would be easy for him to be notable by some metric, but his projects and interviews have no independent coverage and there's little to nothing I could find that discusses him in an impartial way. Reconrabbit 20:24, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks man. Cokeandbread (talk) 21:59, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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Keep: I created the page so let me explain why. I will start like this.

In the early days of Instagram verification, before Instagram gave out verification, they didnt know how to select who was worthy of being verified and why those people were worthy and others were not. So they found a solution. One of the criteria they used to determine if someone was notable to be verified was to check out the number of DMs said person from other verified accounts. Getting DMs from verified accounts meant you were notable too. E.g an obscure music producer getting DMs from different big musicians meant he was notable even though he wasnt famous. Afterall some notable people work behind the scenes. Jimmy Rex's Show have had some great people on the podcast. In Wikipedia we call those "associates". Lots of people who have Wikipedia articles have been guests at his show. A non notable podcaster wont pull notable guests to his podcast.

There is something else I should point out. There was a debate about Giannis Antetokounmpo, and how his opening sentence should be worded. The bone of contention was whether he should be labeled as a Greek or a Nigerian-Greek. What put that argument to rest was a video from YouTube. In the video he said that he represents both Nigeria and Greece. These are the scenarios when Youtube videos can be employed. In Jimmy Rex's case, these notable guests are talking by themselves for themselves. You watch the video and see them. It is verifiable. When you say primary source, do you know that you mean that the words are coming from Jimmy Rex's mouth? And in this case, are they? Cokeandbread (talk) 21:58, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Please read what WP:SOURCING is, because I'm not going to explain it to you. It details the different types and the fact that your article is a raging advertisement sourced to blackhat SEO doesn't help. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 22:05, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Please read WP:YOUTUBE-EL.

And about SEO blackhatting, you are simply projecting, because I never had the intention for such. Cokeandbread (talk) 22:11, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Please explain how I am projecting? What does that mean? GRINCHIDICAE🎄 22:12, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Here are some signs that you might be projecting onto me:

• You make assumptions about my intentions. With no good faith.

• You accuse me of doing something that you yourself might be guilty of.

• You seem overly sensitive to my words or actions, as if you’re taking them personally. Cokeandbread (talk) 22:27, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Define projecting. Cause this isn't it. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 22:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

I dont have time for this. Cokeandbread (talk) 22:48, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. Not seeing in-depth independent coverage in reliable sources. Fails WP:GNG. A ref-bombed promo article, most likely COI/paid editing. Edwardx (talk) 23:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

  When I created the article, I wrote a sub section about his controversy and I was asked to remove it because it was negative. Now, the article seems like a promo because it is too nice? Okay.

  Also Read WP:YOUTUBE-EL. Cokeandbread (talk) 00:21, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

  I recommended that the controversy section be removed because controversy sections are generally a poor idea, especially on a biography of a living person. Vice News was not a strong enough source to justify it. Reconrabbit 15:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete Every single source is either a passing mention, not independent of the subject, or about a different subject entirely (referring to one of his guests). Plus, there is WP:TRIVIA being used to puff up the citations list: Guatemala is one of his favorite travel destinations? An NBA star crashed one of his parties? Who TF cares. Not notable. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 23:36, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep A Wikipedia article with minimal citations but clear notability. Deletion of notable Wikipedia pages because of fewer citations can set a dangerous precedent. Gracefoundme (talk) 08:14, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

  It looks to me like there are plenty of citations, but many of them are weak in terms of reliability and are not independent of Jimmy Rex. Reconrabbit 15:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

  Alright. Cokeandbread (talk) 20:43, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep. From what I see I believe the Wikipedia article is notable. The creating editor seems naive so I think it is creator issue, not a notability issue. Keep and keep improving. Wallclockticking (talk) 18:41, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks. I am learning. Cokeandbread (talk) 08:19, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete as the article currently is written. I'm of the opinion that controversy often makes a person notable. Recent examples of articles that I've saved because of bad reviews or controversy include Topaz (novel) and The Legend That Was Earth. Another article is Sangre Grande Regional Complex, often described as a white elephant. Many a bad broadcaster has achieved notability by having outrageous guests. I'm glad to change my !vote if critiques are added back in. Bearian (talk) 05:38, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

  Good day Bearian. Following your instructions, I added his critiques. I dont know if it is sufficient to change your mind though. Cokeandbread (talk) 08:19, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep, because many influential podcasters are notable despite limited traditional media coverage. The reason why is because podcast is the new media and traditional citations don't yet know how to do justice to podcasters' influence. Their reach, engagement, and cultural relevance often exceed those of traditionally cited sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdhoul 138 (talk • contribs) time, day month year (UTC)
• Delete as written as it's clearly promotional, but I'm also not sure a neutral article is possible based on the available sources. SportingFlyer T·C 03:15, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep - Article is consistent with other Wikipedia podcasting WP:POD articles from what I see. Amaekuma (talk) 20:04, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

  That's a WP:WHATABOUTX argument, not a valid rationale. Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep as in its current state, the article covers his achievements and controversies, giving a balanced view that fits Wikipedia’s standards. Miss Dike 16:05, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

  "his articles and achievements do not contribute to any notability standard. Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:17, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep Google search show this article has independent secondary reliable source with a significant coverage. Thus, it has pass GNG. Again, [3], [4], [5] and [6] are enough to establish notability. 102.91.104.221 (talk) 08:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

  USA Today is not about this individual, he's only mentioned and has a quote. The other sources aren't RS. Oaktree b (talk) 01:53, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete. A WP:REFBOMB of primary source Q&As, WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS, press releases, affiliated sources (eg official bios), student media, etc. Not a single source is WP:SIGCOV in an independent, secondary, reliable source. Total WP:GNG/WP:NBIO failure and highly promotional as well. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. No valid secondary sourcing to prove WP:GNG.TitCrisse (talk) 03:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: Non-notable podcast person. There are no articles in RS about this individual; what's used in the article are trivial mentions or non-RS. I can't find any we can use either. Oaktree b (talk) 01:50, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• Comment to closer: The discussion may at present look evenly divided, but the "keep" !votes are either not policy based or offer sources that other !voters have rebutted. It is also unusual that this particular discussion has attracted so many "keep" !votes from accounts that are participating in AfD for either the first (Gracefoundme, Miss Dike and obviously the IP) or second (Wallclockticking, Abdhoul 138) time. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:17, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

English Young Liberals

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No independent or third-party sources. Structure section just consists of a list of names which seems like WP:PROMO. Fails WP:GNG. No significant coverage in Google News, one passing mention in Google Books. Orange sticker (talk) 19:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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Keep, but in dire need of improvement — I would certainly prefer it being kept as opposed to deleted. Failing that I would prefer it be draft-ified or the like.

I had previously stub-ified the artcle by removing vast amounts of content in this edit and here. I was hesitant to do such but believed it to be needed due to verifibility concerns and to avoid a directory article. After that I'd put it on my radar of pages needing additional content.

I believe that EYL scrapes GNG, from a quick gander using the book search, it seems to be mentioned at least in more than one book (Though firefox seems to be preventing me from using preview to look in the books rather annoyingly), though as you said no significant news coverage. I may be mistaken, but I believe the EYL have had some different names in their past as well which may have better coverage, but I'm struggling to recall or pull up what they were (Which doesn't really help the case I suppose).

I'm under no illusion that this isn't a weak case from me however, and I believe you're right to have brought this up Bejakyo (talk) 22:41, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

I think the book mentions may be a reference to National League of Young Liberals which is not the same org Czarking0 (talk) 02:21, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

• The first two hits I found in Google books are the merest passing mentions, not wp:sigcov. I also proposed a redirect to Liberal Democrats (UK) in Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Young_Liberals_(UK) after making this nomination.

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Rachel McLean (writer)

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inexplicably declined - despite no evidence of notability - being a "kindle author" is meaningless in the absence of actual meaningful coverage, of which there is none. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 21:30, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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Comment - (As I had to go and look to work out what you meant by 'Inexplicably declined'...) Your nomination for a speedy deletion was declined, with the perfectly clear explanation that "the Kindle award is enough to get past an A7, and the article is not promotional". Speedy Deletion is for a very strictly determined subset of articles. JeffUK 15:22, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete - Doesn't meet WP:GNG, the Amazon source is not neutral, and the bookseller source alone isn't sufficient. There are a few mentions around of McLean attending book signings and the like, but they're also not really neutral as it's a commercial engagement being advertised. JeffUK 15:29, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
• Unclear - it's certainly not speedy delete-able because there's an allegation of notability and some coverage although debatable whether it's significant coverage. Bearian (talk) 05:17, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

  I don't think it meets sustained coverage, the Amazon article is not neutral, the Bookseller article is an just reporting on the exact same award (So even though it's more neutral, it's not sustained coverage) The only other article in a very very local paper about 'author signs books at local library' is around the time of the Amazon award (again, not sustained coverage). I just don't think it meets the test. Mostly there's just not enough here for us to write an article with. JeffUK 10:55, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

  Ok, delete then. Bearian (talk) 15:47, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: She seems to have different names/pseudonyms, I've found a few more sources that way and incorporated more info (edit: + over a wider range of years) but unsure if it's enough. – Starklinson 10:19, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

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Giacomo Milano

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Giacomo Milano (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Deleted article which was recently recreated with no significant improvements. Clear fail of WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 23:13, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

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Seeing there are multiple Italian Ruby players up here made be look below WP:SPORTCRIT to see if there was a Rugby specific guideline. Seeing that there is WP:NRODEO but no Rugby guideline. Makes me think WP could use a Rubgy guideline. I do not have enough subject matter knowledge to want to attempt that though Czarking0 (talk) 01:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Delete Basically all primary sources in the sense that they are published by the institutions he plays for. Does not seem to be notable enough in other respects. Googling his name only returns basic player stats. I also tried Italian google news and he does not come up. Czarking0 (talk) 01:17, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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Chima Amadi

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The article fails WP:GNG. All the sources are pass mentioned or interviews with run of the mills awards Ibjaja055 (talk) 23:12, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: Non-notable article about a living people who doesn’t meet the general notability criteria. Awards won does not confer WP:ANYBIO. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 08:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

List of battles and other violent events by death toll

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List of battles and other violent events by death toll (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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This page, deleted once already, was recreated as a disambiguation page, but the current page has only one entry which is not suitable for a redirect. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 22:53, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete per nom. There is already a List of battles by casualties and List of wars by death toll, and zero reason to group them with "other violent events" (whatever those are; alien invasions???) to them. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:07, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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The result was speedy keep‎. Withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Cavarrone 12:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Renato Canova

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Most information is not about Canova but about his athletes, and a vast majority of information in the article is unsourced and full of puffery/promotional material. Notability may be there but the current state of the article is abysmal. Some of the only major sources I can find on Renato are the two refs used in the article, while a lot of other sources seem to be from blogs. The two links to Men's Racing and the Running Times seem to be dead links. This article needs a lot of work especially for a BLP and doesn't seem to be edited frequently. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 22:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
I am withdrawing my nomination of deletion for Renato Canova because he passes notability. The article just needs a lot of work which can be solved through simple editing and citing reliable sources that other editors have mentioned. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 12:01, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Note: I have just removed a lot of the promotional material/puffery in the article. Hope we can save this article as Canova seems like a noteworthy/legendary coach. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 00:33, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep. Seems solvable through editing. Here is another article, in part about Sondre Nordstad Moen, but also a lot about Canova who became Moen's coach in 2017. Geschichte (talk) 00:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  Agree with this. I found the German version of the article which seems much more fleshed out than the English version. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 00:48, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep and suggest withdrawal, surmountable issues, which the nominator himself is now addressing. The subject easily passes GNG. This article from the major Italian sport newspaper La Gazzetta dello Sport could be a starting point for improvements. Cavarrone 08:13, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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Thanksgiving Eve Dynamite (2023)

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No evidence of independent notability for this holiday-special TV episode. JTtheOG (talk) 22:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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  Keep - This seems highly superflous, considering all the other years of this event exist in article form I see no reason why this should be any different. I was going to even describe the details of said event in the "Production" section. I really see no reason why this article should be deleted, it serves it's purpose, it's grouped in with the others and every other yearly event associated with it has it's own article. Lemonademan22 (talk) 00:11, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete: Using an article from 2006 for a TV show almost 20 yrs later as sourcing isn't showing notability. This is about typical [7], seems to be a series of tv shows, rather than one special. I don't see anything showing this particular incarnation was very notable. Oaktree b (talk) 22:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

  I'm guessing you're not in the wrestling sphere, these are different comapanies with no relation to one another with seperate names and seperate specials. The company that hosted this event isn't even 10 years old. Lemonademan22 (talk) 00:26, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  Well, 2006 is more than 10 years ago, I don't know what to tell you. Oaktree b (talk) 01:55, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  All Elite Wrestling, the actual wrestling promotion who hosted the event, was founded in 2019. The event is not connected to the ones from 2006 as they are in a different promotion under an entirely different name. That is a fact and nothing else. Lemonademan22 (talk) 02:21, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  They are referring to the source in the article being from 2006. JTtheOG (talk) 03:27, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  I'm still not understanding. I read the article but how can you connect this special with an unrelated 2006 special that I've never even heard of from a different company? Lemonademan22 (talk) 14:01, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  He's saying that somehow the reference used for this article was created in 2006. Realistically that source just says an outline of how wrestling works. It doesn't help push towards WP:GNG and, in this case, show WP:NOTINHERITED doesn't apply. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:18, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  To be honest this article could just be tagged to be worked on and I'd gladly spend more time on it. It doesn't need to be full on deleted. Lemonademan22 (talk) 16:29, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  Can you show that is it a notable event enough to meet WP:GNG and WP:NOTINHERITED not just as a regular Dynamite episode? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  I think I can.

  Firstly, it is the fourth of five specials that has happened since 2019, not counting 2020 as one was not held, and all of them have articles.

  Secondly, it was watched by almost 1 million people alone (Source: [8] ) and broadcast on TBS one of the biggest cable networks in America.

  Thirdly, it was extensivley covered while the action was happening by Bleacher Report (Source [9] ) which is one of the biggest online sports news companies in America also and it was also covered by news outlet Cageside Seats (Source: [10]), a division of SB Nation, another big American news outlet.

  The evidence in my opinion is clear that this is quite notable, albeit the article does lack secondary sources it would not be an issue to add them as long as the article does not get deleted as I wouldn't be able to then. Lemonademan22 (talk) 16:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  Oh this? That's on every single wrestling article covering a PPV, special episode ect. that's nothing new on Wrestling articles on Wikipedia, it's always used. It shouldn't make a difference. If secondary sources are what you want I'll put them on the article and improve it that way than it being deleted. Lemonademan22 (talk) 16:31, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, that would be what's required. Multiple reliable third party sources talking in depth about the subject that aren't just WP:ROUTINE coverage. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:34, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: Nothing in this article suggests that this is, nor the other events are independently notable from the regular Dynamite episodes. Just seems like a regular TV show that has a Christmas themed episode. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:06, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  No offense, but did you even read the title? It clearly says Thanksgiving. Lemonademan22 (talk) 14:01, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  I'm not sure the time of year makes any difference. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Volitan

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Notability. Can't find anything within the last decade, or describing an actual vessel, rather than a vague concept for sticking solar panels to a boat. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:54, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete Temporary coverage about a design, not a real product ever made. Reywas92^Talk 20:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Deimantė Kizalaitė

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Non-notable figure skater. No senior-level international medals; no national championship gold medals. Bgsu98 (Talk) 19:30, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Missionary Families of Christ

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Page heavily edited by a user who was blocked for promotional editing. Sources found in article are mostly primary and these appear to have been added for promotional purposes. Notability also seems to be lacking, and there is no evidence that this subject warrants an encyclopedic article. CycloneYoris ^talk! 19:06, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: Sourcing in the article isn't sufficient, and this is about all I could find [11]. Gsearch is only showing primary sources, their website, a facebook page. Nothing for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 22:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. The article relies heavily on primary sources, and only blogs and/or non-independent sources that cover this community are available. As Oaktree b said, nothing is available that can prove its notability. AstrooKai (Talk) 08:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. Not seeing any WP:SIGCOV in independent, reliable, secondary sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:24, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Charis Fourkiotis

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His 46 minutes of professional football is, at best, a weak presumption of notability. My searches didn't yield any WP:SPORTBASIC coverage. Elassona News has an announcement about him which is only 2 sentences long. Larissa Net mentions him once. AELOle has a transfer announcement which is copied from his club's website. There is no good coverage in WP:RS as far as I can see. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:12, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete no significant coverage in Greek media

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• Delete. By the way I'm pretty sure Super League 2 stopped being fully professional after COVID. The league was expanded from 12 to a whopping 34 teams, and with diminutive match attendance in several arenas. Geschichte (talk) 20:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete – Per above. Svartner (talk) 05:29, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Ankur Warikoo

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Non-notable YouTuber, given sources are either obviously paid or lack WP:SIGCOV. Cutlass^Ciera 18:07, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: Sourcing now is more for an business person than a youtuber, and it's only funding announcements. PR items or funding announcements aren't helpful. Appears PROMO. Oaktree b (talk) 22:39, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: All references fail WP:SIRS. If author disagrees, they should indicate the WP:THREE that satisfy. - UtherSRG (talk) 01:01, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep: Notable but poorly written. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 04:11, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  What shows he is notable? Geschichte (talk) 10:19, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  you can google him, he is famous, in Forbes list etc.. I do not currently have time to expand it, but surely he is notable. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 10:53, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  The article translation in Hindi has a usual a traffic of 700 per month. See

  _{Note: I am not a paid editor, or paid to create this page. I just thought it would be good to translate it as he is quite famous on internet.} PerspicazHistorian (talk) 10:58, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  Notability on Wikipedia has a very specific, narrow definition. Please read the link and understand that you have to prove notability, not just assert it with you can google him. Please read WP:SIRS to understand the level of referencing required to prove notability, and then, as I requested previously, list the WP:THREE. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:39, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  Further, each language Wikipedia has it's own rules regarding notability. The fact that the Hindi-language wiki even has an article about this subject is non-material. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:41, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Timoleon Patronis

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Played 2 league matches and 1 cup match before disappearing from professional football. This stats stub gives no indication of passing WP:SPORTBASIC either. Sportsup contains a trivial mention of him in a list of players transferred out. Sigma Live and a few other sources contain a mention of a player of the same name who was the assistant manager of Panachaiki from 1971 to 1978 so clearly a different person (but possibly a relative) given the connection to the same club. In any case, there is no significant coverage of either Timoleon Patronis that I can find. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:04, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 18:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

This Is Me... Live

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A cancelled tour, none of its dates are happening. All the information here can be redirected/merge with This Is Me... Now. The dates table is redundant anyway. This article fails WP:NTOUR essentially. Ippantekina (talk) 17:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge to This Is Me... Now, pretty much per nom. BD2412 T 19:02, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Merge: as suggested is fine. This was a no-go concert, rebranded and turned into something else. Oaktree b (talk) 22:40, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Kepler-1047 c

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Non-notable exoplanet, the bibliographies of exoplanet.eu and NASA Exoplanet Archive only show database coverage about it. Fails WP:NASTRO. Might be redirected to List of exoplanets discovered in 2016. 21 Andromedae (talk) 16:39, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Question. I'm no expert on this topic, but is the following statement run-of-the-mill for exoplanets, or is it something exceptional: "The planet has a fast year of just 3.2 days. It is not far from its star, but only 0.0434 astronomical units from its parent star."? Athel cb (talk) 17:28, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  @Athel cb, I have been through the references and surprised to see that none of them mentioned the text The planet has a fast year of just 3.2 days. It is not far from its star, but only 0.0434 astronomical units from its parent star. Also searched the web about that and realised that it's not something extraordinary. Meanwhile the NASA website stated about that Planet[12].––kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 18:16, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  Just found more exoplanets with such info, TOI-2109b, Kepler-78b, K2-137b. Mentioned all could prove that the stated sentence about that specific exoplanet was just a run-of-the-mill.––kemel49^{(connect)(contri)} 18:24, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  We have quite a lot planets with such low orbital periods, so they are not individually notable. This is not a very remarkable charateristic that is not seen in any other planet. 21 Andromedae (talk) 12:40, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

It might be a bit unusual in that it's an Earth mass planet orbiting very close to a Sun-like star. There's probably an interesting story in how it got down to that orbit. Perhaps a migrating gas giant that has been stripped of its atmosphere? Unfortunately, there don't appear to be any studies so it's not notable at this point. Praemonitus (talk) 06:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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Committee of Concerned Journalists

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Last AfD was 17 years ago with promises to work on the article. I'm not finding significant coverage and with this organization no longer existing unlikely to be any new sources generated. Fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 15:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. Not seeing independent WP:SIGCOV for a WP:NORG pass. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Michael Meaney (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 15:18, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep - decent Irish coverage available - RTÉ (a little routine but still a headline in a national broadcaster's site indicating national prominence), KCLR (similar to before but not quite as notable as RTÉ), a circa 1k word piece entirely about Meaney and his career in The Kildare Nationalist and another piece of coverage in The Nationalist (Carlow version so separate from the prior newspaper). Of these the Kildare Nationalist piece is strongest and combined the sources indicate regional notability, imv. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 16:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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2029 ICC Champions Trophy

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This is rather supposed to be a redirect but checking the history will tell you that there are editors who keeps reverting the restoration of the redirect, the very last restoration of redirect was done by me and mine was just reverted by the same user. This is way WP:TOOSOON to qualify for a standalone page right now. Fails WP:GNG, etc. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:14, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: WP:TOOSOON; Draftify at least. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 08:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete as WP:TOOSOON. I oppose moving to draftspace, as draftspace is not an indefinite holding area, and it will be 2+ years (probably longer) until more information is known. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• Draftify: I don’t see WP:TOOSOON is a valid reason for deletion in this instance. According to WP:FUTURE, notable and highly likely future events should be included. Given that the venue has already been confirmed, the article could simply be updated or moved after the 2025 edition concludes or closer to that time and so I strongly oppose deletion.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 09:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Bais Chaya elementary school shootings

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WP:TOOSOON article about an event not yet shown as having the kind of enduring significance needed to graduate from WP:NOTNEWS territory. As always, it isn't Wikipedia's role or goal to maintain an article about every single thing that happens in the world -- we're writing history here, not news, so we would need to see some evidence that the event would pass the ten year test as a matter of long-term significance, which people will still be looking for information about into the 2030s and 2040s and 2050s. But neither the amount of content here nor the amount of sourcing shown to support it establish that this would pass that test yet as of today.
Obviously no prejudice against recreation at a later date if more long-term impact can be shown, but we need to see a lot more than just "this is a thing that happened a couple of days ago". Bearcat (talk) 17:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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The reason why I created it is there's three shootings that occurred over a period of months. City News alone covered it on May 25 May 27 October 12 October 13 October 18 December 20 Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 18:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

• Merge into Antisemitism in Canada where there is already some coverage. The school, itself, does not appear to be notable and the only coverage, in English, appears to be the news coverage about these shootings. As suspects in these shootings are now under arrest, Wikipedia probably should not have a separate article about these shootings until the trial is over. See WP:BLPCRIME. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 21:17, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

@Bearcat: I added several additional sources, including coverage of Doug Ford's comment about the first shooting + the reactions to it that immigrants were responsible. The ongoing shootings are a very big news story in Canada as school shootings are not as common here. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 04:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Facing the Enemy

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Article fails WP:GNG and WP:NFILM. There are no reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. I did a WP:BEFORE and found nothing suitable to pass WP:NEXIST. The Film Creator (talk) 17:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to List of erotic thriller films#2001: listed there; notable cast, verifiable, but the director has no page. A standard alternative to deletion is such cases when coverage seems insufficient for a standalone page. -Mushy Yank. 21:07, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Brian Thompson (businessman)

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During initial discussions of the notability of the subject I favored that this article be kept for the time being, pending the emergence of articles in reliable sources on the subject. Since then there has been quite a lot of coverage in reliable sources and a problem has emerged.

It has become apparent that virtually all the coverage of Thompson in reliable sources is relevant to his murder. The little that is not is trivial in nature (e.g. he was separated from his wife and once was arrested for drunk driving). As a result, the indisputably notable and necessary article on his killing, Killing of Brian Thompson is little more than an expanded version of this article. This article is superfluous, and should be deleted or merged into that article. Coretheapple (talk) 16:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep His activities at UH are sufficient to meet WP:NPERSON. He is not only notable for a single event. PhotographyEdits (talk) 17:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Weak keep - while the coverage/sources have largely emerged only due to the killing, there are notable events and facts about his life that pre-date late 2024, and I think he meets WP:NPERSON as a result. Need to be careful not to let too much of the content/tone of Killing of Brian Thompson spill into here, tho. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 17:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

  Keep for these same reasons. AHI-3000 (talk) 19:40, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

• Merge there is far too much scrapping on any possible report about Thompson that fails BLP (which still applies). The bulk of the biographical details are routine and do not show any notability. Nearly all the criticism about him is mostly about UHC while he happened to be CEO, which doesn't automatically make him responsible for those choices, nor make him notable. We will avoid a lot of BLP problems by including the criticism of UHC within the killing article are related to the motive of the killing. But otherwise BLP1E clearly is met, and we should not have a standalone of him. Masem (t) 17:40, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
  • To add the bulk of the sources are after his death. If he was truly notable beyond BLE1E, there would be far more sourcing from before his death, but the only pieces there prevdeath are routine aspects related to his promotions at UHC. This is the type of case that BLP1E as well as BLP CRIME were written to avoid. Masem (t) 18:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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• Keep - we have articles for CEOs of major companies, including those who aren't particularly notable except for just leading their companies. UHC is a major and controversial company, and Thompson is notable for his leadership before his murder. See WP:NPERSON. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 19:39, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
  • There is no explicit notability for CEOs of major corporations. — Masem (t) 00:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Merge and redirect. Thompson largely has the same characterization as Mangione I think, since he is largely WP:BLP1E, but that WP:1E is not trivial, and he played an untrivial role in that event (even unwillingly). I think the same principle applies to Thompson as to Mangione, but the difference, as I see it, is that the coverage around Mangione quickly turned him into a folk hero. Thompson has almost faded into obscurity by comparison: it's been the US healthcare system that's been vilified, not this one person. I think that if Mangione is notable enough for this 1E, Thompson should be, but the deletion discussion for Mangione didn't conclusively litigate that, in my opinion (though I was involved). But if Mangione isn't notable for simply the one event, I don't think Thompson would be notable at all. There simply hasn't been much coverage of this person, as @Coretheapple points out. I hope that was enough explanation to not just be WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS :)guninvalid (talk) 21:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Merge, as per reasoning of @Coretheapple Sushidude21! (talk) 23:44, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

And @guninvalìd Sushidude21! (talk) 23:45, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

• Merge and redirect to Killing of Brian Thompson per nom, as well as the reasonings of Masem and guninvalid. JeffSpaceman (talk) 01:38, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per JohnAdams1800, and since the Mangione article AfD passed as keep, which was a concern of Coretheapple. Cheers! Johnson524 06:33, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  The Mangione article's AfD did get closed as Keep, but a deletion review was initiated. There is some weak support from the admins to overturn to no-consensus, though I don't believe that's actually going to happen. guninvalid (talk) 09:58, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  Mangione has received an avalanche of attention in RS sources, so I am not surprised by the result of the AfD. In the past such criminals (Richard Matt comes to mind) get articles, and efforts to delete them on a 1E basis are unsuccessful. I speak from experience on that. Here we have an article on a victim, and I think 1E looms especially large here, as the amount of attention focused on him has been far less than Mangione, resulting in what is essentially a duplicative article. Coretheapple (talk) 16:01, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  In the case of Matt, he was a principal character in two film adaptations. Though I advocated for deletion of the article the community was opposed. 1E only is meaningful if it is enforced, and it was not in that instance. In this instance, we need to weigh carefully the purpose served by this article and how it replicates another article. Coretheapple (talk) 16:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

• Merge and redirect to Killing of Brian Thompson Let's not make this person a hero over many dead people. 190.219.101.225 (talk) 07:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  Having a Wikipedia article does not mean he is a "hero". Iostn (talk) 11:10, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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The result was speedy delete‎ per WP:G5 -- creation by a sock of previously banned account. — CactusWriter ^(talk) 01:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Ivan Yuen (Co-founder Wattpad)

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Semi-advertorialized WP:BLP of a software engineer and company co-founder, not properly sourced as passing inclusion criteria for a standalone article. As always, people are not automatically notable enough for Wikipedia articles just because they have jobs, and have to pass defined criteria to qualify -- but the main notability claim here is that he exists, with the article otherwise lapsing into corporate PR-speak ("Yuen is based in Canada and continues to mentor emerging talent while investing in early-stage companies through his involvement with Elder Ventures", "At Wattpad, Yuen has contributed to the company’s strategic growth and innovation", etc.) rather than being written in an encyclopedic tone.
And the article isn't referenced to strong WP:GNG-worthy coverage about him, but to a mixture of primary sources which aren't support for notability at all and glancing namechecks of his existence (e.g. as a provider of soundbite) in sources whose primary subject is the company as a whole rather than him as an individual.
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to pass GNG on more substantive content and sourcing than this. Bearcat (talk) 16:55, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Keep and rework. Looking through the soutces, I'm seeing enough reliable and nontrivial coverage to warrant WP:GNG. The Forbes, BBC, and Inc. articles cover his and Allen Lau's role in the starting of Wattpad fairly comprehensively, though more emphasis is placed on Lau then Yuen it seems. Yes, they are covered mostly in the context of Wattpad, but not exclusively. From skimming those three articles, all of them mention that Yuen worked at a previous game studio with Lau before he worked on Wattpad and Lau joined him. guninvalid (talk) 21:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I've taken a full look at the article and I've spent quite a while doing nothing but trimming almost everything for unsourced or unencyclopedic. I might be able to save the article since there's a bit of other information I can throw in but no guarantees. At this point, I'm okay with either Keep or Delete. guninvalid (talk) 21:55, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm changing my !vote to Delete. Looking at the edit history, this article seems to entirely be written by @Readcircle, who, according to their talk page edit history, did not put it through the propers WP:AfC process, and who should not have had permissions to create a mainspace article like this without going through AfC. AfD is not a substitute for AfC. guninvalid (talk) 21:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

@Readcircle just got canned by the checkuser, and all their articles were wiped. You can wipe this one too now. guninvalid (talk) 22:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Vinayak Singh Oberoi

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The article fails notability and significant coverage. Pizzaonpineapple (talk) 16:30, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Strong Delete The individual who created this article submitted it multiple times before they were auto confirmed, and multiple times it was declined for not being Notable. The individual did not just suddenly become notable because the editor of the article became auto confirmed. The individual in this article does not show any notability to speak of. Not only should the article be deleted but WP:Salted as well.--VViking_TalkEdits 15:26, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Prince Alvin Kwabena Ansah

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Fails WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. The sources are the usual PRs I expect and obvious paid promotions on the papers covered in a brown envelope. Not even a single source from here or a cursory search is GNG-worthy. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:14, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Harrington Subway

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Article about a piece of transportation infrastructure, not reliably sourced as having any serious notability claim. Just to be clear, this is a subway in the sense of "single road passing under a graded crossing", not in the sense of "underground metro system", so it isn't automatically notable enough for its own standalone article just because it exists -- millions of roads pass under other roads or railway lines all over the world, so such things are just run of the mill without some kind of historical, social or political context for why they might be more significant than most other underpasses.
But this, as written, just says that the subject is a thing that exists, without providing any context for why its existence might warrant an encyclopedia article about it -- and it cites just one footnote that glancingly namechecks the underpass without being about the underpass in any non-trivial sense, which is not enough coverage to get the underpass over WP:GNG all by itself. Bearcat (talk) 15:53, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete only one source in the article which barely mentions the subway and clearly lacks WP:SIGCOV. SportingFlyer T·C 18:09, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: I can't find any significant coverage of this run-of-the-mill underpass. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 15:36, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Nicolle Verma

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This article fails WP:BIO, due to insufficient reliable secondary sources about Nicolle Verma. The references are primarily promotional and fail to establish her independent notability under WP:GNG violating WP:NOTPROMO. Nxcrypto Message 15:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Article has been improved with references and secondary sources from the press and media of reputed TV channels and newspapers.

It is neither promotional nor insufficient now. Intalk (talk) 15:52, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

@Intalk It seems like you haven't read WP:NOTINHERITED. Nxcrypto Message 04:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Agreed with you, notability is not inherited. However there are several references that have been added to the article wherein it is visible that a 17 year old girl is achieving success in her own right by organising world class sports events abroad, involved in philanthropic midday meal schemes for the poor in India. At the age of 17 kids are playing video games and roller blading and not thinking about the poor. Read the articles that are added as source and if you still feel that my article does not pass muster then the decision is yours. I have been editing wiki for last 7 years, I don't indulge in any kind of promotion. Intalk (talk) 04:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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  The subject Nicolle Verma is a notable figure in Romania and India both. She has been involved in philanthropic activities herself and several articles in the Indian press are referenced. Also, she organised a kabaddi match in Dubai on her own at a stadium with Bollywood actor Suniel Shetty as the Chief Guest. This person passes muster with WP guidelines on WP:GNG and passes all tests. If 17 year olds who are being covered by the press in a foreign country and their work is being appreciated by the masses, then what would pass WP guidelines?

  I vote to KEEP the article. Intalk (talk) 04:50, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete poorly formatted article with references mainly talking about the relatives of the subject. Fails WP:GNG. ArvindPalaskar (talk) 05:03, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete — random rich girl, not encyclopedic material. — Biruitorul ^Talk 10:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Powerking

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Already soft deleted once in 2012 (not eligible for G4), the only non-primary source that is given this time is [13] which is far from being in-depth. With a WP:BEFORE, the only additional source I found is [14], of which I'm not sure of the reliability. Not very optimistic for WP:GNG. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 15:47, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment. It is certainly a well-known product in Northern Europe, but I was not able to find significant coverage of it online. Only sales sites and forum discussions. Something might be buried somewhere, maybe in trade press. Geschichte (talk) 08:22, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete A passing mention in an energy drink review is the only reliable source I can find mentioning this product. Even the Swedish and Finnish Wikipedias, where the product is more popular, don't have an expanded range of sources. Fails WP:GNG. Jordano⁵³ 15:51, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Inequality by Design

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Completely unsourced article that furthermore does not even seem to reflect the book's actual content. The notability of this minor book (which is just one of multiple such books with an article here!) discussing The Bell Curve is also questionable. Lamptonian (talk) 14:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Keep several reviews are in the further reading, off of which this already passes NBOOK. I'm not even going to bother looking for more but I would bet there are - it is not "completely unsourced". PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep: Reviewed in Library Journal(here), Intelligence (journal) (here), Political Science Quarterly (here), Journal of the American Statistical Association (here), European Sociological Review (here), Contemporary Sociology (here), Journal of Developmental and Behavioral Pediatrics (here) and Personnel Psychology (journal) (here). I could keep going (my library's search alone shows at least 35 reviews), but I think it's clear this meets NBOOK. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 19:34, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per above reviews. Geschichte (talk) 20:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Aydan Baston

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No sign of notability from sources listed, and no further sources to meet WP:GNG. Allan Nonymous (talk) 13:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Elvenking (band), the band he's a member of, which could have been boldly done. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Elvenking (band). No indication of signifiance for a BLP. scope_creep^Talk 17:37, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Y21

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No pages named "Y21" to disambiguate Gjs238 (talk) 12:42, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep - It is correct as a DAB page. It's a Japanese train station code, likely to identify the year. Other articles use Y20, Y19 and etc. Often appears in the article "Line" section, This just needed a little adjustment to work with the text. — Maile (talk) 16:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Datamatics

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 12:13, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Who Is Dr Who

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My deletion proposal:

Found no evidence of notability. Only source I found discussing this album was this self-published zine.

The proposal was removed by Mushy Yank who suggested a merger instead; however, given the lack of coverage, I don't think it'd be DUE to give this any more of a place than it already has in its tiny entry in List of Doctor Who music releases. I suppose a redirect there would be appropriate. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 12:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect as suggested above or merge as I suggested myself, mentioned in Booy, M. (2012). Love and Monsters: The Doctor Who Experience, 1979 to the Present, I.B.Tauris, describing the overall content and mentioning the fact that the BBC had intended to launch a series of records.-Mushy Yank. 12:56, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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Ram Vishwakarma

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No reliable sources are available on google, I also tried searching in Regional languages but got nothing. Fails WP:GNG and WP:ANYBIO. Taabii (talk) 09:40, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep. The highlighted individual meet WP:GNG under WP:SNG. A former director of the Indian Institute of Integrative Medicine ([15]) qualify under WP:NPROF and WP:NACADEMIC (#8) criteria. In addition, a search in Google Scholar reveal several scientific articles that have been credited to or published in collaboration with the same individual ([16], [17], [18] and [19]). The article however, require improvement and addition of sources. QEnigma (talk) 15:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
• Weak keep. As a former director of IIIM he does not automatically qualify. The staff is about 68 PhD/Dr, with a modest budget of about $0.5M (it goes further in India). Just as a Dean at a university is not automatic, he is not -- but it is a partial notability. In terms of publications his h-factor of 62 is strong, but it is a high citation field. (The 20th person in drug discovery has an h-factor of 118, and it is more an exponential than linear relationship.) The two together just about persuade me that he passes WP:NPROF, the criteria the nom used are not really appropriate. For certain the page needs work.
• Delete: I can't find coverage that can clarify his notoriety.. 190.219.101.225 (talk) 03:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Craig Ross (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:19, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep. This from Stuff is clear sigcov. Further coverage from the Dominion Post and again in same indicate he's of at least regional notability. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 11:39, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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Glenn Moody

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:10, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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  Keep. Multiple articles on glenn moody northernecho and glenn moody gazettelive searches on google plus glenn moody theguardian is a strong one tooCanary757 (talk) 18:26, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

  five references added to the article now from three different sources.Canary757 (talk) 07:11, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep per references added to article. Further coverage can be found in The Mirror (admittedly no consensus for reliability but the coverage indicates notability), Evening Gazette and a bit in the darts publication Dartn.de. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 11:44, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

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Kutay Eryoldaş

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Non-notable figure skater. Bgsu98 (Talk) 10:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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David Noriega

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Fails to meet notability criteria under WP:AUTHOR, doesn't appear to be many secondary sources on him. jolielover♥talk 09:13, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Biba Apparels

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Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:56, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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MyG

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Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:55, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Reelmonk

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Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:54, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Ethics of simulated suffering

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Does not appear to be a robust philosophical concept needing its own article. Two sources provided are self-published and not covered by reliable independent sources. The "connection to catostrphic risks" seems like WP:OR/WP:SYNTH and not directly supporting the notability of the concept itself. If anything, a brief mention of ethical concerns in simulated reality seems sufficient. ZimZalaBim ^talk 15:47, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

I don't think the concept is notable enough in itself. But some of it could probably be merged into the article ethics of uncertain sentience. Alenoach (talk) 17:22, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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Fabian Roosenbrand

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 10:13, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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I have found a few things for this one. dartfreakz [20], this [21], wegdamnieuws [22], aavisie [23], almelonineuws[24]. Nothing spectacular but some notability. I will have a closer look at these later before nominating a vote and will also consider any feedback.Canary757 (talk) 06:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

These sources look minor so I am not opposing deletion unless better ones are found.Canary757 (talk) 12:49, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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Mobile development framework

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Cruft-magnet - unsourced and out of date list containing original research. Long tagged as such and nothing has been done to address the issue. Doesn't look as if there's anything of value to preserve by moving to other articles. 10mmsocket (talk) 16:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

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Farakka Port

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The existence of this port is questionable due to a serious lack of sources. A Google search yields no results for the so-called "Farakka Port". The cited sources in the article refer instead to a Farakka inland waterway, used for transporting coal to the Farakka Super Thermal Power Station near the Farakka Barrage. It seems it is actually referring to a floating terminal listed here. In any case, the topic fails to meet WP:GNG. The Doom Patrol (talk) 09:01, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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Suggest merge some supported content to a section in Farakka. - Davidships (talk) 13:49, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep - there is not a lot of coverage in English, but it's enough to verify, and combine with significant coverage in Bengali, and it passes GNG. I added another English language source. I've been redirecting and merging a lot of unsourced Indian-related stubs, but this is an easy keep. Bearian (talk) 11:31, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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Hassan Gimba

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Fails WP:GNG. Almost all the sources are press releases and the remaining sources focus on the ceremonial activities of the subject. Ibjaja055 (talk) 08:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete: Publisher of a non-notable organisation created as a possible promo who doesn’t meet the general notability criteria for biography of living persons. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 08:00, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

2009 Aéro-Frêt An-12 crash

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Per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:EVENTCRIT. Per WP:GNG, "sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability". From what I've been able to find, none of the sources were secondary in nature since none of them contained analysis, evaluation, interpretation, or synthesis of the event itself. The event does not have significant, in-depth, nor sustained continued coverage with coverage only briefly occurring in the aftermath of the accident. No lasting effects or long-term impacts on a significant region have been demonstrated. WP:EVENTCRIT#4 states that routine kinds of news events including most accidents – whether or not tragic or widely reported at the time – are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance, which this event lacks. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 08:11, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Think it's enough to keep. Some news, large and well-known kind of aircraft crashing with fatalities. Hyperbolick (talk) 08:42, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

  Whatever the aircraft type and whether the accident had casualties or not is not an argument based on Wikipedia's notability guidelines. There was news coverage, but that alone is not a reason to keep. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 09:59, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

  Out of curiosity, @Aviationwikiflight, has a final report for this accident been released yet? if there has it might determine the notability of this accident (uniqueness etc.)

  Anyways besides that, my vote as of current is a weak keep, seeing it was an illegal flight on a heavy aircraft makes it somewhat notable as illegal flights (especially on heavy aircraft such as the Antonov An-12) are generally rare and notable, the above will determine a possible sway of my vote. Lolzer3k 15:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

  To my knowledge, no final report has been released (if an investigation was even started). I don’t necessarily see the release of a final report, nor the opposite, as indicative of notability since it should be common practice among investigative agencies to release them. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 15:45, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

  @Lolzer3000. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 16:23, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

  @Lolzer3000. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 16:49, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

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Biometric Consortium

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Non-notable program. Per a WP:BEFORE], there is no WP:SIGCOV, only routine coverage of conference announcements. Longhornsg (talk) 05:37, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep I found a source like that, it is valid that it remains. 190.219.101.225 (talk) 03:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

  [25] is a WP:MILL WP:BLOG and not a WP:RS to establish WP:GNG. Longhornsg (talk) 04:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Dorsey Road Warehouse

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Non-notable logistics warehouse for the National Security Agency. The NSA likely has hundreds of such warehouses to store equipment, most of which do not pass WP:GNG, like this one. Longhornsg (talk) 05:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge - to Hanover, Maryland where it is located - might not be enough for a standalone article, but worth mentioning on the location page. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:34, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete. Sources are not sufficient to meet WP:GNG. No point in a merge to the page for the town; this is a WP:MILL warehouse, one of dozens in Hanover. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
  • There are dozens of NSA-operated warehouses in Hanover? That's probably news to everyone, including the NSA! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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• delete or if we have to, merge back to parent NSA article. This is really near the nadir of notability: "NSA has a nearby warehouse to hold their spare stuff." Big whoop-de-do. And no, don't merge to Hanover, as this is just one of dozens such facilities in an extensive industrial/business area. Mangoe (talk) 14:23, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Adama Joseph Adama

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A non notable article that fails WP:GNG or WP: ANYBIO. The article establishes it's Notability with promotional pieces such as this, this and this [26]. Also, with numerous press releases. Ibjaja055 (talk) 08:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete - Fails basic WP:BIO, and is possibly the article author Joseph4real1995 . This mentions his early life and basic career path. But there are no accomplishments. — Maile (talk) 23:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: Sources does not establish the general notability criteria, and the awards “bagged” does not meet WP:ANYBIO. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 07:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete - Per nomination. The subject fails W:GNG and W:BIO. Atibrarian (talk) 17:24, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Books on the Delhi Metro

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This non-profit organization fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:07, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Gender and Trade Initiative

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This NGO fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:06, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete - Dependent solely on the lone primary source . The term "Gender and Trade" might be a term used in India, but it makes no sense on this end. Why are they seemingly locked together as one? — Maile (talk) 00:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

South Asia Analysis Group

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This non-profit organization fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Data Security Council of India

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This non-profit organization fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Another alternative is to merge with NASSCOM. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:56, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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CybageAsha

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This NGO fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:53, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Emily Baldoni

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I don't see how the person is notable for anything other than marrying a film producer. A source search at this point only turned up sources about said producer [redacted]. Quick, Spot the Quetzalcoatl! (talk) 07:40, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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  Keep. I agree with the previous reply. She has been in prominent roles in the past and is currently still acting. Her most recent role is in It Ends with Us which was released earlier this year. Foreverxnature (talk) 16:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep. Meets NACTOR: prominent roles in Coherence (film), Identical (film), The Lost Tribe (2010 film) and Grizzly Park. I must comment that the WP:BEFORE apparently consisted of removing the list of notable films and tv series where she appeared before nominating the article. Sjö (talk) 10:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep. Clearly meets NACTOR, and I consider a nomination borderline bad-faith when it guts the article to a stub immediately before AfD. Chubbles (talk) 21:04, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep It does pass NACTOR. Keivan.f^Talk 21:43, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per NACTOR. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 15:41, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Nuvoco Vistas Corporation

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:35, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Aditya Birla Sun Life Asset Management

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Amrita Narlikar

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Fails WP:NBIO, and WP:NPROF. None of the sources constitute WP:SIGCOV. Also, Wikipedia is not a resume hosting site WP:NOTRESUME. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep. The citation profile in GS[27] seems healthy (top citations 501, 413, 319, 272, 231, with a further 12 >100 citns) meeting my definition of WP:PROF by citations. There are also supposedly 12 books, with the ones listed being published by high-quality academic/general publishers, which are likely to have received sufficient reviews to meet WP:AUTHOR. Espresso Addict (talk) 07:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

  255 JSTOR hits making finding book reviews a chore but here's four to be going along with: The World Trade Organization: A Very Short Introduction JSTOR 4092662; International Trade and Developing Countries: Bargaining Coalitions in the WTO JSTOR 20097936; New Powers: How to Become One and How to Manage Them JSTOR 29777521; Deadlocks in Multilateral Negotiations. Causes and Solutions JSTOR 43122662 Espresso Addict (talk) 08:17, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep. Easily enough book reviews of enough books (now added to the article) for WP:AUTHOR. —David Eppstein (talk) 08:14, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep An easy pass of WP:AUTHOR. The case for WP:PROF#C1 also appears decent; an h-index of 30 and 17 papers with triple-digit citation counts don't hurt, at least. XOR'easter (talk) 14:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Neptune Prime

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Fails WP:GNG and WP: NCORP. The article is supported by promotional and puff piece such as this and press releases such as this and this. Ibjaja055 (talk) 06:48, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete Not notable, per above reasoning. Despite WP:RSNG saying that Blueprint is a "generally reliable" source, the source that focuses on the paper itself is very suspiciously promotional. The other two sources focus on an awards show associated with the newspaper, which I don't believe to establish notability. Upon searching, the only other mentions in notable news sources are about the paper's founder opening up a hospital, which also doesn't establish notability. Jordano⁵³ 07:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: Sources here does not reach the landmark for corporations as sources lack CORPDEPTH. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 07:43, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Jaden McNeil

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I can't actually see a reason that McNeil is notable himself. Yes, there are a load of sources mentioning the unpleasant comments that he comes out with, but he simply seems to be someone who has tagged along with other unpleasant characters, and has been noted as such by reliable sources. Black Kite (talk) 14:56, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

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It clearly says in the Wikipedia guidelines if there's reliable sources about an individual, that's what determined notability. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 17:26, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

WP:NOTINHERITED, WP:SIGCOV. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 17:57, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete - This is another in a long line of far-right nobodies who is only recognized for having a beef with another far-right personality. Does not satisfy WP:N, definitely does not satisfy WP:BLP. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 18:51, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. There's been very little discussion of specific sources, so I've gone ahead and started by making a source assessment table based on sources in the article:

Source assessment table

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
The Kansas City Star	This is a WP:INDEPENDENT WP:NEWSORG doing its own reporting	This is a reliable WP:NEWSORG	The source is principally about the article subject.	✔ Yes
The Manhattan Mercury	This is an independent daily mainstream newspaper doing its own reporting.	This is a 140-year-old well-established daily newspaper; WP:NEWSORG.	This source is directly covering the article subject in a substantial way, with the whole source principally focused on the article subject.	✔ Yes
Anti-defamation league	Moot as not SIGCOV	Moot as not SIGCOV	He gets name-dropped once, but that's about all the coverage he gets.	✘ No
The Collegian (KSU) 1	Student media. Per WP:RSSM, student media does not contribute to notability for topics related to home institutions.	why not?	deadlink, but moot per WP:RSSM.	✘ No
The Collegian (KSU) 2	Student media. Per WP:RSSM, student media does not contribute to notability for topics related to home institutions.	Why not?	deadlink, but moot per WP:RSSM.	✘ No
Southern Poverty Law Center 1	Why not?	Per WP:RSP, The Southern Poverty Law Center is considered generally reliable on topics related to hate groups and extremism in the United States.	This coverage is principally about McNeil.	✔ Yes
Southern Poverty Law Center 2	Why not?	Per WP:RSP, The Southern Poverty Law Center is considered generally reliable on topics related to hate groups and extremism in the United States.	McNeil is not so much as mentioned by name once.	✘ No
Southern Poverty Law Center 3	Why not?	Per WP:RSP, The Southern Poverty Law Center is considered generally reliable on topics related to hate groups and extremism in the United States.	There's plenty of coverage of McNeil and Dickerman as a sort of group, but little of McNeil alone. In any case, going to be moot as WP:N notes that Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability, and we already have a contributing SPLC source above.	? Unknown
The Kansas City Star 2	Independent WP:NEWSORG	A WP:NEWSORG doing its own reporting	Seems to give substantial coverage to McNeil and his activities.	✔ Yes
The Daily Dot's "God" blog	Sure?	While WP:DAILYDOT is MREL, but looking more broadly at the God blog archives this looks like an opinionated blog that's just hosted on the platfom.	Seems to be about McNeil and reaction to his actions.	✘ No
BroBible	Sure?	~ I can't find anything in the WP:RSN archives or at WP:NPPSG, but this feel a lot like a WP:DEXERTO-level source	Seems to be about McNeil and reaction to his actions.	~ Partial
Inside Higher Ed	Why not?	WP:NEWSORG	We've got two paragraphs about McNeil that pass the WP:100WT for independent prose, albeit barely.	✔ Yes
The Kansas City Star 3	Independent WP:NEWSORG	WP:NEWSORG	WP:NEWSORG doing their own report principally about the subject and his activities.	✔ Yes
Southern Poverty Law Center 4	This is the same url as source 6	This is the same url as source 6	This is the same url as source 6	✔ Yes
MEL Magazine	Sure?	~ RSN archives treat this as a mixed reliability source.	Three paragraphs about McNeil and his activities, passes the WP:100WT.	~ Partial
Mother Jones	Why not?	Per WP:MOTHERJONES, source is WP:GREL.	Five paragraphs are given in the article to coverage of McNeil; this is clearly SIGCOV.	✔ Yes
Vice	Why not?	~ The community doesn't have consensus regarding VICE's reliability.	Seems to provide significant secondary coverage of McNeil and his making allegations against Fuentes.	~ Partial
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

What this reveals is that, based on solely sources in the article, McNeil has received WP:SIGCOV from at least the following sources:

1. The Kansas City Star: 1, 2, 3
2. The Manhattan Mercury: 1
3. Southern Poverty Law Center: 1, maybe 2
4. Mother Jones: 1.

This alone would easily pass WP:SIGCOV and, as there appears to be multiple events covered among these sources, this doesn't look like a WP:BLP1E/WP:BIO1E case. The additional sources that one can google regarding the McNeil-KSU football affair really do drive home that not all of his coverage is about Nick Fuentes or storming the U.S. capitol:

McNeil-KSU football affair additional sources
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Sports Illustrated The Manhattan Mercury Yahoo! News The Sporting News AP 1 and 2 ESPN KC Star USA Today

As such, I think we have an individual here who easily passes WP:GNG, for whom no suitable merge target exists, and I think nom's contention that this is only someone who is covered in the context of Fuentes is plainly incorrect. In light of the breadth of coverage and the deep sourcing, there is nothing reasonable to do here but to keep.

— Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 19:10, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep - thanks to Red-tailed hawk for assessing the sources. Looks like GNG and SIGCOV are clearly met. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:22, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: More about the controversial things said and the fallout than about the individual, from the sources. "Streamer says things, ruffles feathers, than fades away" seems to be the extent of what we have. Oaktree b (talk) 00:17, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  GNG and SIGCOV are clearly met. Reliable sources like ADL, the Kansas city star, the Manhatten Mercury, Southern poverty law center all cover this individual. This goes with Wikipedia's guidelines on notability. According with Wikipedia's guidelines, Notability isn't determined on what a certain individual is notable for, but if reliable sources cover him. However if it was the opposite, well they cover his falling out with Fuentes, His views, His association with Nick Fuentes, him being held accountable by Kansas State University for an offensive joke, him getting a girlfriend, etc. I don't even know why this is a discussion. His Wikipedia page has been up for about two years with barely anyone saying anything because it's common sense this goes with Wikipedia's guidelines. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 01:58, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  " Student says bad things " isn't terribly notable, this person wasn't notable before that happened. I'd be looking for extensive coverage of them before the event, which we don't seem to have. I've done things as a student and was held accountable, that's not really what we're looking for. Oaktree b (talk) 03:24, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  @Oaktree b you've might've done bad things as a student, but news sources didn't cover it. Again, Wikipedia's notability policy are if reliable sources cover something, not "this isn't something I think is news worthy or topic worthy". As for "there needs to be extensive coverage of him before the Kansas University incident", why? Why does it matter what the first news source about him said? If multiple reliable sources cover him and different incidents involving him afterwards, that goes with Wikipedia's notability policy. But here, here's a news story covering him before the Kansas University incident. https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/nicholas-fuentes-america-first-infighting also I saw ESPN cover Jaden McNeil too, multiple reliable sources cover this guy, I'm struggling to understand why this is a discussion. Wikipedia's guidelines is clear as day. Wikipedia's guidelines say nothing about if you think something's news worthy, but if news outlets consider it news worthy. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 05:25, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  That incident, for what it's worth, has been turned into a academic case study. It's not just that a kid said something inflammatory, it's that the incident was nationally covered and continued to receive attention in academics even after it was out of the news (in addition to the case study, described in a Ph.D. thesis). I think that reducing this to " Student says bad things " isn't terribly notable is a gross oversimplification here that misses just how big this was—and also ignores coverage in the context of other events as well. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 06:04, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per the reasons given above and on the talk page already. Two newspapers from his area discussing him, and Mother Jones and the SPLC discussing him in the context of someone else, and for an edgy remark he made, do not make him worthy of an entire article. Swinub★ 04:13, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  @Swinub as pointed out by red-tailed hawk, ESPN, Yahoo News, USA today, sports illustrated and other huge mainstream sources cover thie guy. It's not just two news papers. And he's not only mentioned in the context of Nick Fuentes and an edgy tweet he made in 2020, as pointed out by me in multiple examples earlier. And as pointed out by red-tailed hawk, he easily passes WP:GNG HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 05:38, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  Every source posted by Red-tailed hawk is about the Floyd tweet and nothing more. Swinub★ 05:43, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  Every source posted by Red-tailed hawk is about the Floyd tweet and nothing more... no, that is patently false. SPLC covers this individual applying for and receiving Paycheck Protection Program funds, and Mother Jones doesn't so much as mention that inflammatory Tweet, but does provide significant coverage of this individual. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 05:57, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: From what I'm reading above, the firing is notable, I'm not sure the individual is. Could perhaps create an article about the incident itself. Oaktree b (talk) 16:55, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

  @Oaktree b there's numerous reliable sources that cover different incidents regarding Jaden McNeil DisneyGuy744 (talk) 21:52, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep because of significant coverage. Look, lots of people, but especially the bad, are famous for being famous. Bearian (talk) 03:41, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

  It looks like most of us agree it should stay DisneyGuy744 (talk) 20:37, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

  Yes HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 20:41, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

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i think we're done here. Looks like the opposers have given up HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 20:18, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

Clearly not here to build an encyclopedia. Swinub★ 22:31, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

@Sw 36914 You got called out for lying in this AfD discussion. And keep trying to get me banned by saying I'm not here to build an encyclopedia, without any proof. What makes you think that's gonna work? @Liz I think we're done here. 100% of the people are not going to agree to keep the page, but an administrator gave reasons why the page should stay and showed examples on how it goes with Wikipedia's guidelines. 100% are not going to agree, but if most people do, we should end the discussion. Being here forever is pointless. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 01:08, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

I misread his reply and noticed my error a day later, as I'm not paying too close attention to this page. I apologize for the mistake, but it was not intentional. As for us "being done here," we're not; let other people give their input. You've given yours already. Swinub★ 04:46, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

I think we're done here HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 00:48, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

HumansRightsIsCool, this might be a surprise if you haven't participated in many AFDs before but the participants can't declare that a discussion is over and should be closed. An AFD discussion is closed when a closer sees that a consensus has been reached or decides, after several relistings, that no consensus is possible. In situations like this discussion, this is likely to happen if a few more editors participate in this discussion and offer their arguments. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:42, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

It's been days since a new editor sent a message here. Lots of editors were showing up, but it stopped once everyone kinda realized this discussion is pointless. administrators like Red-tailed hawk gave examples on how McNeil's page goes with Wikipedia's guidelines on notability, considering how multiple reliable sources cover different incidents involving Jaden McNeil. Swinub is never going to agree the page should stay, no matter how many examples you give of this Wikipedia article going with Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Are we supposed to stay here for 3 years? Someone get a AdF closer to decide the fate of the article, not everyone's gonna agree. No matter what. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 06:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Liz explained how this works, demanding someone come in and give you satisfaction is not a good look. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 14:03, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

AdF? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:49, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

think he meant Afd - articles for deletion 2603:8080:600:87B:D2F5:7B10:A18C:526E (talk) 21:21, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

@Liz: Respectfully, I do have to take issue with the relisting comment. The opposition to the notability here, as articulated by Swinub and Oaktree b, is that the sort of stuff that he has been covered for does not make him worth an article—not that WP:SIGCOV isn't met. It's essentially a set of (attempted) WP:IAR deletion !votes. And neither The Hand That Feeds You nor Black Kite have attempted to do a source-by-source analysis, and neither of them has made a substantial comment about notability after the source assessment table was dropped.

That is in marked contrast to my keep !vote, which identified specific sources and described how each of them specifically contribute towards meeting the WP:GNG. If individuals don't believe that this person meets the WP:GNG, they are free to argue so. But I would very much like to see what they think is wrong about the source assessment table, and I'm quite saddened that nobody has articulated that here. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 21:48, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

At this point, I'm feeling involved here so I'll just bow out of this AFD discussion and let another closer handle this one. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:17, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

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Brian Bickell

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Non-notable person. Although he holds a high position in a large company, there is barely anything in the media about him. Kingturtle = (talk) 06:06, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep Bickell has been covered by The Sunday Times and The Telegraph, both of which are notable sources considered to be reliable per community consensus. In addition, though no consensus has been reached on its general reliability, this piece from The Evening Standard could also arguably be considered this as well. In all three, he is primarily featured, not trivially mentioned. Because of that, I believe he meets the criteria for WP:NBIO. Jordano⁵³ 07:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Danny Oyekan

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Appears to be entirely promotional and has no WP:SUSTAINED notability. Amigao (talk) 05:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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This is the challenge with cryptocurrency enterprenuers. This fellow has been building and gaining recognition for it since 2017, what else is sustained notabillity? WP:SUSTAINED

It also sufficiently satisfies WP:NOTPROMOTION. Oyindebrah (talk) 09:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Comment: @Oyindebrah:I am still finding it very difficult to understand how this article is not promotional? Or are there any other sources apart from those listed in the article? Ok, let's take a brief look at them. Shall we?

• Source 1 is a promotional piece. The lead of the article clearly started with puffy sentences: Danny Oyekan can be said to have the entrepreneurial spirit ingrained in him from birth. How is that even possible? Another one: He was amongst the first wave of Bitcoin investors and is considered a pioneer in establishing the use of virtual currency in the African market. Who named him pioneer?

• Source 2 is unreliable and full of promotional pieces. From the first sentence Danny Oyekan is a trailblazing tech entrepreneur, investor, passionate advocate for blockchain technology, and founding Chairman of Dan Holdings to the last His journey serves as an inspiration to aspiring entrepreneurs and cryptocurrency enthusiasts, showcasing the transformative power of embracing emerging technologies and forging one's path to success are purely promotional.

• Source 3: Error 500

• 4 and 5: promotional pieces, Daniel Oyekan’s journey in the world of investment is rooted in his belief in the potential of new technologies and groundbreaking ideas. I also find it very odd that two independent news media will publish the same post words for words. It can only happen if a PR is involved.

• Sources 6, 7 and 8 is about BlockFinex and the rest are press releases. Ibjaja055 (talk) 10:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

I am able to access source 3 and I can confirm that it is a sponsored post. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 10:54, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per my comments above. Ibjaja055 (talk) 10:25, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete: Per Ibjaja055. Entry on subject is based solely on sponsored posts that are obviously not independent thus failing the general notability criteria. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 10:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

https://fij.ng/article/dubai-based-daniel-oyekan-borrowed-40000-from-friend-then-vanished/

https://tribuneonlineng.com/daniel-oyekans-coins-app-sparks-global-social-payments-revolution/

https://guardian.ng/news/we-believe-fintech-is-the-future-dan-holdings-danny-oyekan/#google_vignette Oyindebrah (talk) 17:10, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Deborah L. Turbiville

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A person only notable for one event. And, per WP:CRIM, she is not well known, and the motivation for her crime does not appear unusual. {{Sam S|💬|✏️|ℹ️}} 04:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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•I agree that this page is not relevant and should be deleted — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:4E3C:CC10:0:0:0:1F (talk) 04:41, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to an event-specific page. The event seems to pass WP:NCRIME guidelines, with in-depth coverage from reliable local and national news sources like CNN and NYT. While the person is not notable, I see no reason why the information about the event can't be kept. Jordano⁵³ 07:43, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

  Possible targets include: History of vice in Texas, Crime in Houston, Brothel#United States, Prostitution in the United States#21st century {{Sam S|💬|✏️|ℹ️}} 04:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

  I believe the first article listed to be the best, as it has more instances of specific events and incidents than the others. Fitting in this story would likely be easiest there. Jordano⁵³ 06:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Brian Krusz

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This is all routine local coverage. Subject served in the marines and owns a car wash, not enough to satisfy WP:BIO. - The literary leader of the age ✉ 03:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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August Capital

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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Tagged for multiple issues. Was previously deleted per AFD. Imcdc Contact 03:43, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Atlantic-Pacific Capital

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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Tagged for multiple issues for years. Imcdc Contact 03:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Al-Khair University

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It does not meet the criteria of WP:ORG or WP:GNG. The article was deleted in 2020 and recreated in 2021, but in my view, the school has not achieved sufficient notability to justify recreating the article. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 02:27, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment - There is a ton of WP:NEWSORGINDIA to sift through but I found this. Their notability may be from being part of a diploma mill.--CNMall41 (talk) 20:21, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

  Um ... WP:NEWSORGINDIA is not about Pakistan. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 12:15, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep notable diploma mill. Scammed a lot of innocent students, attracted a lot of media coverage, and even military official received its degree to become NAB director. Very notable per CNMall41. 103.194.93.34 (talk) 16:44, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep More than adequate sourcing available to satisfy the GNG + a bit of HEY...not sure how it's possible to miss the multiyear coverage of this notorious institution. While AfD is not clean up, the article could not be left to stand as it was and I have cleaned it up. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 12:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Jalal khel

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Another administrator said that a clan (tribe) is not subject to WP:A7. I disagree, but I'm not 100% sure, so I'm nominating it for deletion. I have no idea how to evaluate whether a clan meets WP:GNG. I suspect, though, that others in the community are more knowledgeable. Bbb23 (talk) 00:44, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Comment The above article mentions Jalal Khel or Jalalkhel clan is a sub-division of Mahsud Wazir larger

Pashtun tribe. In my brief search, I saw this.....Mehsuds and Wazirs, the King-makers in a game of thrones on khyber.org website...Ngrewal1 (talk) 06:17, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• Merge this stub with Mahsud if the information in it is verifiable. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:38, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

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Terry Blade

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Nominated on behalf of a non-autoconfirmed user claiming to be the article subject:

Does not meet Wikipedia criteria for notability BladeTerry (talk) 01:09, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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I am the subject of this article, Terry Blade.
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I am the subject of this article: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Terry_Blade. I don't think it meets the notability criteria for an article on Wikipedia. The article is semi-protected. I'd like to request that an editor nominate it for deletion please? BladeTerry (talk) 01:04, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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• Keep. There are enough sources here to merit an article per WP:GNG. The context of this AFD attempt is that I created a sockpuppet case page at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Roberteditor, tying together a bunch of IPs and some socks that have been editing the Terry Blade bio and related pages. Two hours and change later, User:BladeTerry registered the username to delete the bio. My guess is that the history of socking is what BladeTerry wants deleted. Binksternet (talk) 08:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Keep. Not the best quality article for sure, and some of the cited sources are better than others. But based on WP:BLP, Blade seems to meet the criteria of having multiple reliable independent sources. Him not wanting an article isn't a criteria for BLP. guninvalid (talk) 11:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

I referenced the wrong part of BLP, my bad, but my argument still stands. Whether he likes it or not, this guy is a WP:PUBLICFIGURE and should be treated as one. If there are specific allegations or specific sections of the article that are undercited, those can be removed. But blanket removing the article in whole is inexcusable. guninvalid (talk) 02:29, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep. The article has a ton of problems, and Binksternet fixed many of them some time back with me trying to assist. The real question is simply "does he pass WP:GNG?" and I have to say yes, he does, although barely, as demonstrated by the sources, and the claim of winning the American Songwriting contest. If the subject of the article can be verified as the editor who wants it deleted, I would probably be ok deleting it because it isn't a slam dunk on notability, and we have a long history of respecting the subject's wishes with borderline notability cases. 14.1.92.185 (talk) 09:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC) (aka: Dennis Brown, trying to take a wikibreak logged out but reading my talk page....)
• Keep. The article could be improved, but agree with the consensus that subject is notable per WP:GNG, WP:NMUSIC No.1 and No. 9. Beyond what's cited in the article, this Earmilk article about the subject is one of the first listed on Google. Dug further and see the subject in a past issue of New Music Weekly, listed on page 33 under the "Country Up & Coming" chart, which is evidence he might also be notable per No. 11 of WP:NMUSIC. Rainydaywindows (talk) 16:51, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Centipede!

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Simple google news search yield one result related to the movie Here from Yahoo News. It both fails WP:NFP and WP:NFO. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 02:20, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Keep. Added some sources. See for yourself.-Mushy Yank. 02:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep: In addition to the sources that have been added, there is another review here. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 07:56, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. Another review (in German). The article was only 3.5 hours old when nominated, but has been improved. Geschichte (talk) 18:01, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep per WP:HEY and reviews found. Toughpigs (talk) 19:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Examples of civil disobedience

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This is a WP:INDISCRIMINATE list of random examples of a very large concept, organized by country with some extra random sections on religion and climate change... it's a mess that is effectively a random list of poorly organized examples from the large category. It makes about as much sense as having examples of science fiction books or examples of famous people articles. If scholars discuss particularly famous cases of civil disobedience, those can and should be first covered in the main article, and split only here if we have too many such examples (which is not the case, this is just linked bizarrely from the "Choices" section of the main article, which is not about examples but about aspects of theory). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:54, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete We have lists already listing protests and riots. This list things that don't have their own articles, so aren't notable, just random examples by the whim of a single editor. There is Category:Civil disobedience, showing far more things on it than this list does, and has subcategories listing things into categories for three nations that have the most entries. Dream Focus 19:13, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep - We have an article about civil disobedience. A list of examples helps to explain that concept. The main article is already long, so a separate article makes sense. It could be renamed "list of" or somesuch, and inclusion criteria should be better documented, but I don't have a hard time seeing this as passing WP:LISTN. The topic being very large is a good reason to keep this split rather than list examples in the main article. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 21:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Rename to List of civil disobedience movements and keep. The main Civil disobedience is too big. Azuredivay (talk) 09:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Examples of feudalism

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This seems to be a WP:CONTENTFORK of feudalism, with seemlingly randomly chosen case studies (WP:INDISCRIMIANTE), haphazardly grouped (particularly considering the weirdly named section "Modern traces" which seems to be "random stuff that did not fit into the two other sections"). There is no need for such an article to exist; at best it can be redirected/merged to the parent article (WP:ATD-R, WP:ATD-M). The main article on feudalism is actually not too long, and is missing a 'by country' overview, which seems to be the way this organized, so merge might be best. If kept as a separate article (but why?), this needs to be renamed, although I am not sure how (Feudalism by country?). _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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  I was somewhat astonished upon checking the revision history statistics to find myself top editor by character count, despite having edited only one section over the summer (and probably due to the citations I added). This article already seems like it was split off from Feudalism as a daughter article, which I think it sort of might have been?

  I think the main problem here (this topic) is that feudalism is a term with a specific technical meaning, but its meaning has been broadened over the years to apply to a number of systems of territorial administration that are not technically feudal, but where the feudalism label can act as a useful heuristic. The main article doesn't do a great job differentiating what feudalism ism and isn'tm, and the article under discussion here serves that purpose, as well as hosting a bunch of hatnotes that would probably otherwise end up in a list article somewhere or in Feudalism#See also.

  I'm not 100% on straight merging into Feudalism: I think the examples of legit, consensus feudal societies could be worked into the main article, but without counterexamples of not-quite-feudal societies (which don't really belong in the main article), it will act as a magnet for that stuff. I'm real big on the concept of excellent list articles (like Infrastructure of the Brill Tramway), which I propose at every major notability discussion about our surfeit of microstubs (like WP:LUGSTUBS et seq.), and this article has the potential to become a great list article. It almost is, except for the title and structure. I also recognise I absolutely will not have the time to restructure it into an excellent list article unless this discussion is relisted at least four times. So I could see any of the following actions: retitle, partial merge, complete merge, temporary redirect until it can be sorted out, or keep.

  For now, Folly Mox (talk) 15:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Examples of in vitro transdifferentiation by lineage-instructive approach

Examples of in vitro transdifferentiation by lineage-instructive approach (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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This appears well-referenced, but no reference mentions the term "lineage-instructive" in their heading. It is not obvious this meets WP:NLIST. Further, there is no criteria given for why those particular examples are included (WP:INDISCRIMINATE). Perhaps per WP:ATD-R this could be merged and redirected to transdifferentiation, which is not too long. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:42, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Merge Back in May 2012, User:Ilee0913 created two articles, this one (Examples of in vitro transdifferentiation by lineage-instructive approach) and its sister Examples of in vitro transdifferentiation by initial epigenetic activation phase approach. The pairing makes it clear that the odd phrasing is simply a marker for the different selections in the two articles. As nom says, the sourcing is robust. It may be that the two could simply be merged, with 'By lineage-instructive approach' becoming one chapter, and 'By initial epigenetic activation phase approach' becoming another chapter. In that case the merged article should be titled Examples of in vitro transdifferentiation. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Examples of groups

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Unreferenced arbitrary (WP:INDISCRIMINATE) collection of examples. Fails WP:V, WP:GNG. Also seems redundant to FA Group (mathematics); even the lead says plainly: "examples of groups in mathematics are given on Group (mathematics). Further examples are listed here". If kept, this probably should be renamed to List of groups in mathematics, but it would need referencing and sources showing how it could meet WP:NLIST, and clear rationale why some examples are shown here and not in the main prose FA article. Do we need a technically infinite list of examples of groups? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:39, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. As nom stated, this is redundant of the article Group (mathematics). Waddles 🗩 🖉 15:56, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete Agree with nominator and follow up response. — MaxnaCarta  ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete as essentially redundant to the main article. That being said, there's probably a reasonable navigational list to be had for our various articles on specific groups and types/classes of groups, but this isn't even remotely that. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 16:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Steve Nesser

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This appears to be a borderline WP:NBIO case that falls just short of passing the criteria. The subject does have some of his own accomplishments in the realm of skateboarding, but the coverage seems insufficient by WP:SIGCOV standards. Source 1 is a passing mention of him in a list of names, source 2 is dead and I couldn't find an archive, source 3 is an interview so not independent, and the only other sources are dead links to what appears to be his defunct website. A WP:BEFORE search led me to minor coverage from skateboarding magazines, and more interviews and primary sources. This guy does appear closer to his own notability than the limited sourcing on this page would portend, but I couldn't find enough coverage of him in my BEFORE search to quite hit the threshold of WP:GNG. JeffSpaceman (talk) 01:23, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

• Delete. No credible secondary sourcing, doesn't meet WP:GNG.TitCrisse (talk) 02:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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Kamna Pathak

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Kamna Pathak (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)

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Looking at the sources, it does not pass WP:GNG even. Mostly all the sources available on google are discussing her replacement in a notable show, see [28], [29], [30]. Taabii (talk) 13:31, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Redirect to Happu_Ki_Ultan_Paltan#Cast: as the nominator indicates she is best known for that role and coverage attesting of that exists. -Mushy Yank. 10:50, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Redirect to Happu_Ki_Ultan_Paltan#Cast. Not opposed to Delete. RangersRus (talk) 14:58, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
• Keep: The actress has worked in multiple notable TV shows, a primary Google search results indicate significant coverage in reliable sources. Zuck28 (talk) 15:37, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

  @Zuck28 Thanks for your comment, for a better understanding i appreciate you to please present those RS here? Happy editing. Taabii (talk) 18:23, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

  I have added a few sources and updated the article, I will try to improve to the article in my free time.

  Zuck28 (talk) 18:33, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep: Now adequately sourced.--Ipigott (talk) 08:47, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

  @Ipigott Most of the sources are Interviews, kindly check it. — Taabii (talk) 12:57, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

• The sources are quite poor and not independent of the subject with claims and interviews. Subject fails the criteria for WP:NACTOR who did not have significant roles in "multiple" notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions; or made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. RangersRus (talk) 16:40, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

• Keep The sources are reliable, and the subject is well-researched with verifiable claims.

𝒮-𝒜𝓊𝓇𝒶 04:06, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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• Redirect to Happu_Ki_Ultan_Paltan#Cast: Has only one notable role, so it's more appropriate to redirect, fails WP:NACTOR. I'm also open to deletion, as most sources are interviews (decent coverage, yet do not establish notability).--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 18:32, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Delete. No valid secondary sources to prove WP:GNG. TitCrisse (talk) 02:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
• Delete I can't find anything but interviews for this lady. No independent coverage. She has acted in one TV show, and what looks like an extra(?) in a film. I have done a search (searches from the UK aren't always good these days), I would be happy to re-evaluate my vote if idependent sources can be found. At the moment, this article doesn't demonstrate it complies with WP:GNG.Knitsey (talk) 16:41, 23 December 2024 (UTC)