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I'm no longer an administrator, so if you're looking for someone to undelete something I deleted, you'd be better off asking at WP:REFUND
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Appealing against deletion?
[edit]Can I ask you for some advice? My article about Chokobsa was deleted today. (It was redirected, but in effect it was deleted.) You were the only person who voted to keep it. Is there anything I can do to appeal against the deletion? I don't think the process was very fair. Some of the votes were cast when the article was still a stub and before I had had a chance to expand it; other votes relied on arguments that are in my view questionable. It was also a non-admin closure (if that matters). Khiikiat (talk) 12:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- Hello again. I decided to request a deletion review: Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2025 January 16#Chakobsa (Dune). Khiikiat (talk) 19:36, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
- So, DRV isn't looking terribly positive, but I'd argue that a NAC DRV with no consensus should be overturned. If it's not, then feel free to find and add more content and unredirect. Unfortunately DRV is being rather stupid about not assessing the validity of arguments made lately--the notion that an RS has to mention a topic by name is improper, but no one is engaging with that critique. Jclemens (talk) 21:37, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
- The deletion review has endorsed the closer's decision. Can I recreate the article as a draft and continue working on it there? Thank you very much for your help. Khiikiat (talk) 10:05, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- You don't even have to ask permission. The history is under the redirect, so you can go, copy/paste move it somewhere draft or sandbox to work on, and then ask for a history merge when/if you're ready for it to go live again. i.e., when you believe in good faith that your improved sourcing has rendered the previous decision moot, that the article now meets our policies and guidelines. Of course you believe it met them before, but you're going to take it up a notch to make sure those objections have been addressed. Make sense? Jclemens (talk) 21:41, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, it makes sense. Thank you for your advice. :) Khiikiat (talk) 11:51, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
- You don't even have to ask permission. The history is under the redirect, so you can go, copy/paste move it somewhere draft or sandbox to work on, and then ask for a history merge when/if you're ready for it to go live again. i.e., when you believe in good faith that your improved sourcing has rendered the previous decision moot, that the article now meets our policies and guidelines. Of course you believe it met them before, but you're going to take it up a notch to make sure those objections have been addressed. Make sense? Jclemens (talk) 21:41, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- The deletion review has endorsed the closer's decision. Can I recreate the article as a draft and continue working on it there? Thank you very much for your help. Khiikiat (talk) 10:05, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
- So, DRV isn't looking terribly positive, but I'd argue that a NAC DRV with no consensus should be overturned. If it's not, then feel free to find and add more content and unredirect. Unfortunately DRV is being rather stupid about not assessing the validity of arguments made lately--the notion that an RS has to mention a topic by name is improper, but no one is engaging with that critique. Jclemens (talk) 21:37, 17 January 2025 (UTC)