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Discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) § Does the community still want moved pages to be unreviewed

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) § Does the community still want moved pages to be unreviewed. Sohom (talk) 07:48, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Seeking additional NPP recruitment coordinator

It's no secret that our backlogs have been continuously growing for a while now, seemingly only held off from going completely out of control by backlog drives.

As such, in an effort to help with this issue, the coordinator team is looking for individuals interested in taking on additional roles. To be more specific, we're looking for someone interested in helping to recruit individuals and to nominate others for the autopatrolled user right. Please let us know here, privately, or elsewhere, if you'd be interested in volunteering. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Also worth noting that anybody can nominate another editor for this right at WP:PERM/A. If you find yourself marking many articles by the same editor as reviewed, and they've created more than 25 articles, please do nominate them. It's a very helpful tool in keeping the backlog under control. – Joe (talk) 15:12, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Is there a special requirement as to who can volunteer to nominate and invite? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:51, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Bug with "no citations" issue?

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T371168

Page Curation lists "No citations - This page does not cite any sources" as one of the possible issues with this revision of Nakadomari (archaeological site). I can understand that it might miss references cited in unusual ways, but this has {{cite}} templates in footnotes and a {{reflist}} under the heading "references" – completely standard. Can anybody figure out what's going on? Is this a bug? – Joe (talk) 08:38, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Okay it seems the issues don't stick to old revisions, so you'll have to trust me it was there. It disappeared after this edit. – Joe (talk) 08:48, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

I assume this is generated by a search of the article's unparsed text looking for, or rather the lack of, <ref> or <ref name within the text. It generates the 'No citations' tag in articles with refs using the short footnotes template {{sfn}} and in articles with a general references section but no inline references, neither of which contain <ref> or <ref name.

It also seems to ignore refs within a template such as {{Music ratings}}. I don't know if this is deliberate with the logic that templates only provide supplemental information and its the body of the text that needs to be examined?

None of which is applicable here. I did think it might be a cache problem, an earlier version not having refs and the tag remaining after refs have been added, but Nakadomari (archaeological site) has had refs from it's creation. This is not the first time I have come across this but can't see any reason why it happens.--John B123 (talk) 20:49, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

Can you put a writeup of this problem on Phabricator, given that it happened after a move, I wonder if it is a regression, however, it probably needs further analysis. Sohom (talk) 08:20, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

I can't provide a reproducible example but I can copy the above to phabricator, if it helps? – Joe (talk) 22:44, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Pavel Romanov (drummer) is currently showing in the queue as having no citations but is referenced. 2023 Andhra Pradesh Legislative Council elections was showing as having no citations but the tag disappeared after I added {{uncategorised}} to the page. Both of these articles have recently been moved. Possibly related, the content snippet in the feed for Pavel Romanov (drummer) shows REDIRECT Pavel Romanov (drummer) and the snippet for 2023 Andhra Pradesh Legislative Council elections showed REDIRECT 2023 Andhra Pradesh Legislative Council elections prior to my edit. --John B123 (talk) 07:45, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Also No. 29 Squadron PAF, Dan Phillips (musician), Kampong Ku F.C. and Al-Jazira Front (Anglo-Turkish War, 1918–1923) are referenced but show up in the queue as having no citations and have 'Redirect (article name)' as the content snippet. All 4 have been recently moved and had no edits since the move. It would seem moving the page causes the problem which resolves when you edit the page. I have no experience of Phabricator so perhaps somebody else could add it there. Thanks. --John B123 (talk) 08:07, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for these examples. I was able to reproduce on testwiki. Confirmed bug, will fix. phab:T371168 –Novem Linguae (talk) 08:27, 27 July 2024 (UTC)