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Newbie Central

Are you a newcomer to Wikipedia? Here are some resources that you may find helpful:

There's this video that explains some of the basics of how Wikipedia works. It's aimed more towards readers than editors, but it can give a decent foundation of some things to be aware of before you start editing. This video by an experienced Wikipedian provides more substantial advice.
The Wikipedia Adventure. This is a very basic (and somewhat eccentric) editing tutorial.
Do you have a conflict-of-interest? Read this guide. It's also important to be aware of an ongoing scam.
Category:All stub articles which is organized alphabetically and by topic. All these articles could be expanded!
This is a tutorial for what to know if you wanted to create an article. Our guideline on what is notable for inclusion on the site is a crucial part of this process.
Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Words to watch – advice on phrasing to avoid when editing
This page is a glossary of different terms used on Wikipedia that can help you understand what people are talking about if you come across an unfamiliar acronym.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory – this is a list of wikiprojects. Some are way more active than others but it's a decent way to try and find groups of articles that match your interests. I'm particularly fond of Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada and the associated challenge for improving articles.
This is the perennial sources list, which can be helpful if you're not sure if something is a reliable source. If it's not on this list and you have concerns, try this noticeboard.
If you are in a disagreement with another editor, you can try asking for a third opinion. There are also other processes for dispute resolution.
The Wikipedia Library – this cannot be used until you have 6 months tenure, no active blocks, and 500 edits. However, once you meet the criteria, it is a very useful resource. There is also the Wikipedia:Resource Exchange. I have subscriptions to the Globe and Mail, Toronto Star, and Niagara Falls Review, if you ever want me to verify something for you. I also have access to the James A. Gibson library at Brock University.

Here's a fox

No reason really, just a fox

— TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 08:50, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well it's a cute fox. :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 08:50, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

November 2024 WikiProject Unreferenced articles backlog drive – award

		Citation Barnstar
		This award is given in recognition to Clovermoss for collecting more than 1.0 point during the WikiProject Unreferenced articles's NOV24 backlog drive. Your contributions played a crucial role in sourcing over 8,000 unsourced articles during the drive. Thank you so much for participating and helping to reduce the backlog! – DreamRimmer Alt (talk) 18:16, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy holidays!

Happy holidays and a prosperous 2025!

Hannah, this must have been an absolutely wild year for you. I am writing Christmas cards for some wikifriends, but you are getting yours a little early. I am sending this on the one year anniversary of awarding you the administrator without tools, which jumpstarted your RfA. I realized that I would be around, so I have (hopefully) timed it down to the minute. From RfA, then nominating Elli (who is now on ArbCom!), then winning Wikimedian of the Year, and nominating Significa liberdade is amazing; you deserve to pat yourself on the back. It was great to meet you at WCNA, and I hope to see you again soon. Best of luck to you and yours in 2025 :) House Blaster (talk • he/they) 20:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Creeper736 (21:27, 12 December 2024)

How do you create an article? --Creeper736 (talk) 21:27, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Creeper736: Well, Wikipedia has notability standards, so some subjects are more viable than others. This guide explains things in more detail, but the gist is that you want to provide three reliable sources that cover the subject in detail. There's additional criteria if you're writing about a business or organization. I'll leave some helpful links on your talk page and feel free to ask me any questions if you have them. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 22:03, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ping

Thanks for the ping. I am currently travelling and won’t be in a position to properly review anything until the new year. I’ll take a look then.—Jeffro77 Talk 06:33, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jeffro77: Okay, have fun! The article will still be here when you have time for it and it'll probably take a few months before it's ready for FAC anyways. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 06:35, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin December Issue

Here is a quick overview of highlights from the Wikimedia Foundation since our second November issue. This will be the final bulletin for 2024 and we'll be back in late January 2025 with the next issue. Please help translate.

Upcoming and current events and conversations
Talking: 2024 continues

Wikimania: Open call to host Wikimania 2027 and beyond is open until end of January 27 anywhere on earth.

Annual Goals Progress on Infrastructure
See also newsletters: Wikimedia Apps · Growth · Research · Web · Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia · Tech News · Language and Internationalization · other newsletters on MediaWiki.org

Tech News: Chart extension is now available on Commons and Testwiki; a new version of the standard wikitext editor-mode syntax highlighter will be available as a beta feature; Edit Check will be relocated to a sidebar on desktop. More updates from tech news 50, 49, and 48.
Wikifunctions: WordGraph dataset is released, which is particularly useful for abstract descriptions for people in Wikidata. More status updates.
Wikipedia 2024 Year in Review: Wikipedia 2024 Year in Review launched, showcasing the collective impact of Wikipedia and Wikipedia contributors in the last calendar year. The iOS App also released a personalized Year in Review to Italy and Mexico, with insights based on reading, editing, and donation history.
Wikipedia Android App: The Android team has launched the Rabbit Holes feature in the final release of the year as part of Wiki Experiences 3.1. Currently being tested in Sub-Saharan Africa and South Asia, this feature suggests a search term and a reading list based on the user's last two visited articles. For more details or to share feedback, visit the project page.

Annual Goals Progress on Equity
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WikiCelebrate: From Challenges to Change-Making: We Wikicelebrate Chabota Isaac Kanguya, a passionate contributor from Zambia, whose journey through the Wikimedia movement embodies resilience, collaboration, and a commitment to representing underrepresented voices.
Conference: Announcing Central Asian WikiCon 2025 which will be hosted at Diplomat International School on April 19–20, 2025, in Tashkent, Uzbekistan.
Campaigns and topical collaboration: The Campaign Product and Programs teams published research on the needs of WikiProject and other topical collaborations.
Wikisource: The journey so far and looking ahead with Wikisource Loves Manuscripts (WiLMa).
CEE Meeting: Experiences and Highlights by Central Asian Community Members.
Partnership: Wikimedia Indonesia and Google Join Forces for Wikipedia Content Enrichment in Indonesia.
Wikimedia Research Showcase: Watch the latest showcase which discussed AI for Wikipedia.

Annual Goals Progress on Safety & Integrity
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Ongoing litigation: Update on litigation in India.

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Board Elections: The Board’s Executive Committee shared some thoughts on the 2024 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections.

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Question from Narayanvl (19:09, 16 December 2024)

I have posted an article on " Dr.S.R.Rajagopalan" and at the end clicked 'Publish' button. I am not able to find out what is the present status. --Narayanvl (talk) 19:09, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Narayanvl: I realize this probably isn't the greatest news to hear, but the "current status" of your draft at User:Narayanvl is that it was deleted. Wikipedia has certain agreed-upon guidelines about when a page can be unilaterally deleted, and one of these is when a page is umambigiously promotional, which is what your draft was deleted as. It reads more like a resume than an encyclopedia article, which is not what Wikipedia is for. You might want to try a site like LinkedIn instead if creating that page is the only thing you wish to do on this site. If you have other interests, I could try to give you some suggestions on pages that could be improved? Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 21:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New pages patrol January 2025 Backlog drive

January 2025 Backlog Drive \| New pages patrol
On 1 January 2025, a one-month backlog drive for new pages patrol will begin in hopes of addressing the growing backlog. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles and redirects patrolled. Each article review will earn 1 point, while each redirect review will earn 0.2 points. Streak awards will be given out based on consistently hitting point thresholds for each week of the drive. Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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Looking for N-American candidates for the WikiWomen* Task Force!

Hello Hannah,

I hope you are doing well!
Currently, I am in the WikiWomen* Advisory Council, and we have recently extended our deadline for candidates for the WikiWomen* Task Force, to improve geographical representation in our candidate list!

The Task Force is aimed to address and prioritize global initiatives to close the Gender Gap in the Wikimedia movement. Going beyond editing activities, we aim to create a space for Women* to share their experiences in organizing, advocacy, research, and other vital areas that contribute to the Wikimedia movement's success.

If you'd like to know more, please read our information on Meta and stand for a seat on the task force yourself, or help us to convince others from your region to do so!
We don't have any candidate from the North American continent, can you imagine...? Ciell (talk) 15:49, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ciell: It is hard to imagine that you're having difficulty filling a North American seat, wow! While I'm honoured that you've thought of me, I'm not really active in gender gap work (I know that you do more than that, but even then I'm not sure this is the best role for me). That said, I can think of someone who would be a perfect fit for this role if she's interested: Penny Richards. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 16:11, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I know right, it's crazy! We have RosieStep with us on the Advisory Council, but beyond that, the involvement of NA women* has been very limited... Thanks for the ping to Penny, I appreciate! Ciell (talk) 16:15, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Black Expats In Panama (17:37, 19 December 2024)

Hi Liance, I believe I need to remove the links I added to the Black Expats in Panama article so it meets Wikipedia requirements is that correct? --Black Expats In Panama (talk) 17:37, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Black Expats In Panama: It's more than links, the page you wrote qualifies for deletion as spam. Wikipedia is not for promoting specific organizations but writing neutral articles on those we consider to be notable. You might want to try some type of social media instead.

This also happens to be the second time this month someone called me Liance, which is odd to say the least. If someone is directing you to edit on their behalf, please know that is also against the site's rules. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Clovermoss, I will rewrite the article Black Expats In Panama (talk) 17:46, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Black Expats In Panama: You don't have to apologize, I just wanted you to know the rules and norms of this website. Unless your organization has been covered by three reliable sources in detail, it's unlikely that it will ever get a Wikipedia article. People often think we're a place to promote their organizations or their themselves, but we're not. We're an encyclopedia that covers notable subjects. There are plenty of other websites where you can do what you want to do: maybe consider YouTube, Facebook, or a blog of some kind? There is stuff I'm passionate about that can't be written about on here and that's okay. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:51, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Got it - thanks for sharing this detial Clovermoss Black Expats In Panama (talk) 19:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question from Narayanvl (17:37, 19 December 2024)

I have revised the posting on 'Dr.S.R.Rajagopalan' and answered queries on conflict of interest. What is its present status ? --Narayanvl (talk) 17:37, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Narayanvl: It still isn't neutrally written and it's unclear how you might meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for biographies. Please read why autobiographies are not a good idea and consider the advice I gave you last time about seeking a different site like LinkedIn. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 17:45, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You seem to have got it wrong and probably determined not to publish it. Please understand it is not an autobiography. It is a biography of an eminent scientist. It is following the exact guidance as per what now appears to me a flexible guidelines of wikipedia. Narayanvl (talk) 18:45, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Narayanvl: You're free to ask for a second opinion if you'd like. The Teahouse is geared towards helping new editors. I doubt they'll give you different advice, but you're welcome to try. Alternatively you could move the draft to mainspace yourself and see what happens. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 18:48, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker), Hey, @Narayanvl. The article doesn’t follow any of the wikipedia’s guidelines for style, which can be found at Wikipedia:Manual of Style, and appear to not have any Wikipedia:Inline citations. So your assertion of It is following the exact guidance as per what now appears to me a flexible guidelines of wikipedia. is inaccurate. Thanks, Cowboygilbert - (talk) ♥ 18:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Apps newsletter – Fourth quarter of 2024

Hello, and welcome to the app's final newsletter of 2024! In this edition, we’ll highlight the key updates and progress made during October and November 2024!

iOS Updates

Personalized Wikipedia Year in Review

In November, we released the first iteration of the Personalized Wikipedia Year in Review to users in Italy and Mexico, covering Italian, Spanish, and English Wikipedia! This experimental feature offers personalized insights based on reading, editing, and donation history for iOS app users for 2024. If this initial version is successful, we hope to improve upon it and make it available to everyone within the iOS app in January 2025. For more information on how your data is used and how to access your Year in Review, please visit the project page, or watch a short video demonstration of the feature.

Alt Text Experiment

The alternative text experiment concluded on November 4, and we are currently analyzing the results. The edits are being reviewed by accessibility experts and moderators active on the iOS app for additional feedback.

Preliminary results show that prompting users on an image they’ve just added leads to higher completion rates (18%) compared to unrelated images (6%). The overall revert rate for alt text edits was 3.4%, lower than the app’s average revert rate of 8.1%. We’ll decide next steps for this feature after completing the analysis.

Navigation Refresh

We completed the first phase of our Navigation refresh, and released a new profile menu into the production version of the app. Our work was coordinated in this Epic: T373714

Android Updates

Private Donor Recognition Experiment

We launched an experiment in France and the Netherlands, exploring the impact of private donor recognition on current and prospective donors. Users who donated through the app will see an active badge on the contributions page, while those who haven’t donated will see a prompt to do so. The experiment will run for 20 days, after which we will evaluate the results. This work was coordinated under Epic: T376303.

Rabbit Holes Experiment

The team began work on the "Rabbit Holes" experiment to increase retention among new readers. The experiment is designed to help users more easily discover and connect with content they are interested in. It is being coordinated under Epic: T378612.

Question from Nycrest (02:09, 21 December 2024)

hi i created a page a simple page for a restaurateur in New York City and it seems be declined because CNN, NBC and PIX11 NY News is not enough for "reliable sources" any ideas on what reliable sources are? This is a simple barebones article meant to start for the individual --Nycrest (talk) 02:09, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]