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Leonid Afremov copyright removal

I'm Leonid Afremov. Why did you remove my page for copyright protection? Its the biography written by my son . I want to have the same biogrpahy on wikipedia. please contact me on leonid@afremov.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leonidafremov (talk • contribs) 14:43, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a site for people to write about themselves or their families. I read that you are an artist who "who promotes and sells his work exclusively over the internet" - good luck with that, but Wikipedia is not the place to do it, because it is not for any kind of promotion. See also Wikipedia:Autobiography and Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. JohnCD (talk) 19:59, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Aeronautica Lombarda AL-3

I've left a notes on my Talk page.TSRL (talk) 19:21, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Leonid Afremov

I already reached high level of international recognition . I'm a well known artist around the world. I do not use wikipedia for promotion. My site gets only 60 clicks a month from wikipedia in compare to 20,000 from facebook and 10,000 from Deviantart. Please check alexa.com for afremov.com , you will see that wikipedia does not generate traffic on afremov.com.

I need to have a page on wikipedia. I already reached a level where its a requirement. Without a wikipedia page, galleries and museums cannot take me seriously . everyone says if you are a real deal, you must be on wikipedia. I have pages in many other languages in wikipedia but the English (main) page was removed. How can I have the page resorted or written in a different manner? Please google Leonid Afremov. You will see more than 10,000 of different sources and pages. I think we can work something out. I need help in this aspect because bios of living persons is a very sensitive thing on wikipedia. I would appreciate if you could send me in the right direction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.79.231.98 (talk) 15:33, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

You make me laugh you do. 'I need to have a page on wikipedia'. Not with only sixty clicks a month you don't son Basket _Feudalist 15:41, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

You wrote "I want this exact bio to be on wikipedia", but Wikipedia is not a place where you can demand to have a page or dictate what it should say. I will give advice on your talk page at User talk:Leonidafremov. JohnCD (talk) 17:56, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

deleted page Mamta Baruah Herland

Hi John,

My name is Steffen Myklebust (www.steffenmyklebust.com).

I see that you have deleted Mamta Baruah Herland page: 13:30, 29 April 2013 JohnCD (talk | contribs) deleted page Mamta Baruah Herland (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mamta Baruah Herland)

She is actually a noteworthy artist working in new digital media art and I do not believe it is any reason to delete the article.

Regards Steffen Myklebust steffenm@online.no Norwise (talk) 10:56, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

A google search suggests very few reliable sources for this character- Twitter, Facebook, etc; what are sites such as Buzzintown, Indianetzone, Siliconindia, and in.com? They all seem mildly tabloid to say the least. Basket _Feudalist 11:13, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

"Steffan"- there is no point whatsoever in 'tidying up' your original post. You need to address the issue of the subject's notability first. Basket _Feudalist 12:21, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

@You Can Act Like A Man:/Basket: please don't bite the newbies. We don't explain our requirements to new users, there's no reason they should understand them.

@Norwise: I will reply on your user talk page, but maybe not until tomorrow. JohnCD (talk) 21:23, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Regading the information about Hakeem Ali Mohammad

Hi John

I have no information coming for Hakeem Ali Mohammad when I google it it come with the old information for which I had requested for deletion. The information does show in wikipedia when I search it but dont get it when i google it...Kindly help me in this. Also request you help in creating the page like other wikipedia page are made, as to how it' done I tried it with different ways but it doesn't show the same result as other wiki pages are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.201.182.15 (talk) 12:12, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

It takes Google a little time to catch up. When I google "Hakeem Ali Mohammad" now, the article appears as the first time on the search. I presume you are user Himayun (talk · contribs) who wrote the article. Please log in before leaving messages - it makes it easier to have a conversation. I will leave some advice about the article on your talk page tomorrow. For a start, read Wikipedia:Verifiability - you need references to verify what the article says. JohnCD (talk) 22:10, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter for September 19, 2013

VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week.

As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add <u> (underline), <sub> (subscript), and <sup> (superscript), <s> (strikethrough) and <code> (computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.

In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references (bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label (bug 51670).

In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl+0 sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl+1 up to Ctrl+6 sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl+7 sets it as pre-formatted (bug 33512). Ctrl+2, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.

Some improvements were made to capitalization for links, so typing in "iPhone" will offer a link to "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" (bug 50452).

Copying and pasting within the same document should work better as of today's update, as should copying from VisualEditor into a third-party application (bug 53364, bug 52271, bug 52460). Work on copying and pasting between VisualEditor instances (for example, between two articles) and retaining formatting when copying from an external source into VisualEditor is progressing.

Major improvements to editing with input method editors (IMEs; mostly used for Indic and East Asian languages) are being deployed today. This is a complex change, so it may produce unexpected errors. On a related point, the names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate (bug 53503).

Looking ahead: The help/'beta' menu will soon expose the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give more specific reports about issues they encounter (bug 53050). This change will make it easier for developers to identify any cacheing issues, once it starts reporting the build number (currently, it says "Version false"). Also, inserting a link, reference or media file will put the cursor after the new content again (bug 53560). Next week’s update will likely improve how dropdowns and other selection menus behave when they do not fit on the screen, with things scrolling so the selected item is always in view.

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being finalized. About two dozen Wikipedias are on the list for Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only, and on Monday, September 30 for unregistered editors. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:35, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Please consider, I would owe you everything. Please undelete the page, "Phyllida Beck" Written by myself

Hi,

My Name Is Sarah And this was my first article and it was very short but very important to me

The artice was written about Phyllida Beck, My coach and best friend. I have known her for years and she recently moved to Australia and needs help getting her coaching out and about. And I thought I could help her.

I did not know about the Citations rule with at least 1 reliable source and I did not know we had to insert them... I am truly sorry for the trouble my deletion caused, but I treasure her with all my heart and she means the world to me and so does figure skating and she brought that to me. Before figure skating, I was suicidal and now I love myself more than ever.

Please help me get her noticed and help her like she helped me. I moved back to Australia with her, I was born here and moved to be with her.

Below are 3 Reliable Primary Sources, the first are the British Figure skating championships results, She placed 3rd in the 1976 championships. The second is a weebly website created by the fabulous Phyllida herself and the Third is a mummigrants blog about migrant mums written again by Phyllida. She is known in either article as Phyllida Beck or Phillida Barden. Please find the good in your heart and computer skills to help me help her... It would mean a lot and I would be eternally Grateful.

1. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/British_Figure_Skating_Championships 2. Phillidabarden.weebly.com 3. mummigrants.wordpress.com/tinsel-tales/phillidas-tale/

Thank you, I would owe you everything to help me.

Your's Sincerely,

Icesk8ingem357 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Icesk8ingem357 (talk • contribs) 04:38, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

I have replied on you talk page. JohnCD (talk) 09:58, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

hey

why did you delete my article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddamrilwan (talk • contribs) 16:00, 24 August 2013‎

Question?

What exactly was the reasoning for deleting the Mishapocalypse? It says incomplete on the explanation but as far as I know the usual procedure for that is to ask for it to be completed. I was only wondering, please don't delete me for trolling? You can contact me at shipshipshippityship@gmail.com if you decide to answer. Please keep in mind that I'm not demanding its return, only asking for clarification. -Sienna — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.89.118.89 (talk) 23:47, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

No, it's not trollng to ask the question, but there were trolls about that day - see the deletion log. It was 1 April, when we expect all kinds of nonsense. The first article was about a newly-created internet meme, written in a jokey April-fool style: "we're here asking you to join the mishapocalyse today! Firstly you must accept Misha as your overlord, before accepting him around you. Then you must become Misha. Be the Misha... " - not suitable for a serious encyclopedia, and with no references to the necessary significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources.

After it was deleted a lot of trolls kept posting things like "THE MISHAS WILL WIN! WE ARE STRONGER THAN WIKIPEDIA!" until after the sixth deletion the title was salted - protected against re-creation, and once it was no longer 1 April they lost interest. JohnCD (talk) 13:01, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Deleted article (Mass transforming into gravity)

Article wasn't finished, and you already deleted it. How come? --Ndwelsh (talk) 12:04, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

I didn't, actually (the deletion log shows you who did); but the reason, explained on your talk page, was WP:No original research. JohnCD (talk) 12:18, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Thank you for helping one of my newbies! Your message about editing user pages was very helpful. Crtew (talk) 20:43, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

• My pleasure. Good luck with your course! JohnCD (talk) 22:06, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

About the Afremov page

Hi John!

I was interested in Leonid Afremov and astonished to find that his Wikipedia page was removed and the reason was said to be the COPYRIGHT. Then I checked afremov.com and found the content of its introduction of the artist was from Wikipedia exactly. So I am writing to ask whether there is a way to make the page of Afremov available again on Wikipedia.

OOPS! Before I click SAVE PAGE, I found the previous messages from Afremov himself. I understand that Wikipedia is not for promotion but the direct promotion part can be cut down. Afremov is indeed an excellent artist. These lights and colors in his paintings are totally magical. I think at least he deserves a page on Wikipedia.

Best. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zhao Mu-Yun (talk • contribs) 16:30, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Ramaz Abesadze for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Ramaz Abesadze is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ramaz Abesadze until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Emeraude (talk) 09:42, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Deletation of page

Arvind Padhee was created by me but later deleted by you citing not a notable person,now I have many links of news papers which can proof about notability of him .So please allow me to create it again . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bikashfunny (talk • contribs) 18:37, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 10:36, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Edit War

There's a small edit war and 3rr violations going on at this page. Not too sure how to handle it, so I thought I'd ask an admin. It might not happen any more, but I don't know. Cheers Matthew Thompson ^{talk to me bro!} 16:40, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

It seems to have stopped. I have explained WP:BRD to the IP involved. Thanks, JohnCD (talk) 16:55, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Crabtree's Bludgeon

I wanted to look up Crabtree's Bludgeon but found that is has been deleted on the grounds that it is a hoax. As of the last time I viewed the page, it clearly stated that the axiom was attributed to Joseph Crabtree, a fictional character. The article was thus not meant to deceive wikipedia readers.

The axiom does not exist as a one off Wikipedia page someone made for a laugh. Its presence in the following BMJ article (albeit, a farcical Christmas edition special)indicates that Crabtree's Bludgeon has a cultural presence in the real world as well. http://www.bmj.com/content/343/bmj.d7769

This article is not a hoax and should not be expunged on those grounds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.242.70.64 (talk) 04:42, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

See User talk:JohnCD/Archive 24#Crabtree's bludgeon. I agree it is an "in-joke" rather than a hoax, but I am not convinced it is notable enough in Wikipedia's sense for a stand-alone article. I think it could be a redirect to a mention in an expanded version of the extremely thin Joseph Crabtree (fictional polymath) article, and I will have a go at that, though it will probably not be for a week or so. JohnCD (talk) 10:41, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. The extremely thin article was once large and bountiful (and fun to read), but I lack the wikithority to revert it to its former glory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.110.242.24 (talk) 15:36, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of page I would like to correct

Hello JohnCD. I noticed that a page I had created [Chad Van De Keere] was deleted rather quickly this morning before I had any time to make any adjustments to it to ensure the article fit correctly within the boundaries of wiki without copyright infringement. Is there a way the page can be restored so that I can still correct that page or do I have to start over on it. I notice on your list of reasons for deleting a page at the bottom you had mentioned it might be easier to start from scratch but I would prefer to properly edit what was already created to be original material for wiki based on the sources. Thanks for your time. Your help in this matter is much appreciated. Wondrousomnibus (talk) 04:52, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

@Wondrousomnibus: no, sorry, we can't have copyright text in Wikipedia, not even temporarily for rewriting - read Wikipedia:Copy-paste. You can see the original here, but you really need to start from a clean sheet, because (a) minor re-wording or WP:Close paraphrasing does not avoid a copyright violation, (b) that is far too promotional in tone: a LinkedIn entry is written to sell someone, but an encyclopedia article is quite a different thing and needs a WP:Neutral point of view, and (c) just copying one source is not enough, you need to show references to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources to establish Wikipedia:notability. Read WP:Your first article for advice. JohnCD (talk) 10:00, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the "reset"

looks like my "sandbox" is back where it should be. Rosalina523 (talk) 18:08, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Vickiel Vaughn

John,

It is not my intent to slander anyone using wikipedia. His arrest history is public knowledge and should be reported. All information is verified and has references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.51.48.146 (talk) 09:00, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

The fact that something has happened and been reported does not necessarily mean that it should be included in an encyclopedia article. The material you want to include has been removed more than once by other users: per WP:BRD if you think it should be restored you should start a discussion on the article talk page and try to reach a WP:Consensus about what to include. Read WP:BLP first. JohnCD (talk) 21:40, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Șuncuiuș

An IP has been persistently adding unsourced material to this page for nearly four months. Near the beginning, you protected this page for a week, which helped for a while, but we're dealing with a very persistent character. Is there some longer-term fix that could be applied? Maybe semi-protection for a longer period of time? Thank you for looking into this. - Biruitorul ^Talk 21:33, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

@Biruitorul: semi-protected for a month - I hope that will force the IP-hopper to the talk page. It might help to encourage them to get an account, which would make dialogue easier. JohnCD (talk) 21:46, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

You deleted a page; please help me understand why, thanks

Hello. I notice that, some time ago, you deleted a page for "Tanya Berenson," who is the daughter of an Olympic gymnastics champion, and who now runs the first and largest U.S. Olympic training facility in L.A. with her mother and hosts L.A. Lights, the international gymnastics event that takes place annually in L.A. Tanya was a Junior Olympian and an equestrian medal-winner. She's a US Gymnastics judge and works with the film industry in gymnastic training. In the world of gymnastics, she's substantial. In the world of Wikipedia, I'm not very well educated about what warrants a deletion. Anything you can do to help clarify would be most appreciated! Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jczelusniak (talk • contribs) 16:21, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Apologies for delay - I will reply on your talk page tomorrow. JohnCD (talk) 21:47, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of International Society for Philosophical Enquiry

I would like to understand the reasoning behind the deletion of the Wikipedia page for the International Society for Philosophical Enquiry which occurred today. Founded in 1974, ISPE is one of the earliest ultra-high IQ societies, and presently has about 500 members worldwide. It publishes a quarterly journal for its membership, as well as a monthly newsletter.

Apart from the seemingly ongoing anti-IQ society movement spearheaded by user WeijiBaikeBianji, who seems to maintain that any high-IQ society (with the possibility of the behemoth Mensa) is insufficiently notable, I do not understand the purpose of deleting a fairly modest page with reference value. The reasoning that such societies have memberships too small to be significant is spurious. By definition, such societies have a limited membership. There are plenty of other organizations with small memberships that are significant in other areas.

It appears that high-IQ organizations are being targeted on Wikipedia simply because there are some who dislike them. This is a philosophical stance, and whether or not one likes the principles involved does not obviate the value of presenting reference information on such organizations.

Seaghdha (talk) 00:37, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

In the early days it was thought that Wikipedia might be a "list of everything", but it was soon realised that a useful encyclopedia would have to be selective. The inclusion criterion worked out over time is called Wikipedia:Notability, and is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." The test is, have people not connected with the subject thought it significant or important enough to write substantial comment about? That is a more objective test than "do we think it's important?" and has the advantage that existence of external sources provides a basis for an article which is not simply the subject using Wikipedia to tell the world about itself; but it is quite a demanding test, many worthy people and organizations do not pass it, and the conclusion of the deletion debate was the ISPE does not. JohnCD (talk) 19:28, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar

Sir you just rejected the undeleting of my page New R. S. J. Public School Senior Secondary link -- wiki.riteme.site/wiki/New_R._S._J._Public_School_Senior_Secondary. You said that it is too promotional. Please tell me the place where i have done its promotion so that i can remove it. please undelete my page. Pratham 10:14, 7 October 2013 (UTC) --— Preceding unsigned comment added by Prathamprakash29 (talk • contribs) 10:14, 7 October 2013‎

• @Prathamprakash29: thank you for the barnstar, but I will not undelete the page, because it was almost entirely copied from the school's website, which is marked "Copyright © New R.S.J. Public School ALLD. 2013. All Right Reserved." Even apart from the copyright violation, it is not a matter of removing some of the glowing adjectives like splendid... successful... spacious... well-equipped: the whole thing was written to "sell" the school, it was the story the school wants to tell the world about itself. That is what you expect on its own website, but Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a notice-board for advertisements. JohnCD (talk) 19:55, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Just a note

There's a discussion at Talk:Criteria for Speedy Deletion about a new criterion for made up one day stuff. Peridon (talk) 15:43, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

That's an old favourite; I doubt if we can agree a criterion, but it would be good if we could. I will chime in. Thanks! JohnCD (talk) 15:49, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

User:Sergii-rachmonov

Hello, Thanks for the deletions that you have made for me ;) --vonusovef ^(wha?) 18:10, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Userspace delete; thank you

Thanks for the quick delete of the doc page for my template. I try to keep pages that don't need to be out there marked for deletion. Let me know if you need any help with anything. I patrol new pages, recent changes, and really try to monitor vandalism. I actually have a user I'm concerned about, all the edits under this IP have been unconstructive. I have him on my watchlist and I'll check in on his contribs everyday but I did issue a final warning. If this continues, what do you suggest I do? Mark for a block with a suggestion to create an account? cliffsteinman -- Discuss 18:24, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

@Cliffsteinman: the place to report a persistent vandal is WP:AIV, which is watched by many admins, but read the notice marked Important at the top - the vandal needs to have been adequately warned first (see WP:Vandalism#Warnings) and persisted despite the warnings. JohnCD (talk) 20:01, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Bulldozer Archaeology

John, Some of the tags were there before I added more. The article is hideous, and it a self-published defamatory, article designed to manufacture controversy. PLEASE view the talk page. The creator and editor are employees of the subject being credited with the neologism. --XKV8R (talk) 20:26, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

I like the present iteration. Thanx for the help!!--XKV8R (talk) 20:33, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

@XKV8R: yes, there were four tags before, but by my count you added another nine, which is way over the top! Anyway, I will continue to watch it, see my note to Dougweller above. JohnCD (talk) 20:49, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanx. just drawing attention. I appreciate your vigilance. Cheers, bc --XKV8R (talk) 10:54, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Tanya Berenson

Hi and thanks for the explanation about Berenson. It may be that the LA School of Gymnastics is significant and/or that Tanya's professional gymnastics career was significant; still researching.

Yes, I am in the PR business, formerly Bloomberg's head of PR and before that worked for Dennis Kozlowski when he was CEO at Tyco International. As per Wikipedia's standards I'm not editing Tanya's entry; rather I'm asking you for insight about it.

I agree with the standards for sure. We have PR Newswire for that kind of promotion. But if I see an inaccuracy or omission or needed update I'll certainly suggest it, whether it's for a client or for another person I am familiar with.

Thank you again for educating us all and for maintaining this important service. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jczelusniak (talk • contribs) 16:10, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Bulldozer archaeology

Seems that this is a bit worse than I thought, see my talk page. So far as I can see, this is correct. Or rather one editor is quite clearly an employee, at least. The article was created as part of an argument occurring off-Wiki. Not going to let that happen. Dougweller (talk) 20:26, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

I've reverted it to my earlier version, and have told N Austin she needs to stay away from editing the article. This is not a new argument between Jacobovici and others, see [1] for instance. I don't know if it is necessary to PP it but I was correct about my original judgment that there were BLP issues. I hope this is on your watch list. Dougweller (talk) 20:33, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanx for the help. This is a part of campaign of retaliation against Prof Yuval Goren by Deutsch and Jacobovici. It's getting dirty, and spilled to WP. Many of us got emails today from Jacobovici's employee touting how 'bulldozer archaeology' was not a WP article. Background is here: http://robertcargill.com/2013/08/26/one-big-balagan-robert-deutsch-simcha-jacobovici-and-their-campaign-of-misinformation-against-prof-yuval-goren/

Thanx again! --XKV8R (talk) 20:36, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

@Dougweller: yes, your reversion is clearly necessary. The result may well fail WP:NEO and WP:N, and should perhaps be taken to AfD on those grounds; but I don't think it is speediable in that state. I will watchlist it and consider AfD if there is more trouble. JohnCD (talk) 20:41, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

I've just declined request page. I assume you've seen the article's talk page. Also rev/del'd speculation about the article creator's identity, they haven't used their real name. I assume you've seen the talk page. I've semi-protected the article. I suspect this is all going to be used off-wiki from what Naustin has said. Weird one, at least for me as I haven't run into quite this sort of thing before. Dougweller (talk) 06:00, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Something else that occurred to me. It's obvious the SPAs don't know anything about bulldozer archaeology except what they've learned from the controversy. It's interesting that the first editor's only edits show he knows how to cite, while Naustin hasn't a clue about citing but knows about mediation. Interesting. By the way, here's a 2007 blog on the issue relating to Israel[2]. Sooner or later if the article stays we need to mention some concrete issues and controversies about the subject - I wish I had time right now to dig into it. Oops, no pun intended there. But this wasn't the way to do it. Dougweller (talk) 07:06, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

See [3] and [4]. Note that Jacobovici is being at best disingenuous about his inventing the term, skirting around it by saying I didn't offer any proof he didn't. Did you see my email? Dougweller (talk) 06:25, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2013 October 6

Could you clarify your closure here? The DRV was about whether the original FFD discussions were correct or not, but you closed it based on whether the G4 deletions were correct, which is a different issue. The administrator who performed the original deletions, User:Peripitus, hasn't edited since July. --Stefan2 (talk) 20:32, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

I closed it as moot since all the files had been restored at the request of the G4-deleting admin; but I take your point that the question of principle hasn't been settled, so I have unclosed to let the discussion continue. JohnCD (talk) 20:42, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm going to reclose as the worst that DRV will do would be to suggest a relist - and that can be done immediately. DRV only looks at process and would refer contentious decisions back to FFD for de novo consideration. Spartaz ^Humbug! 05:01, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Question to deleted page Apple_cores

Dear John, I stumbled on the page Apple_cores which you deleted in April 2012 as I tried to create it. Deletion log shows: 16:41, 17 March 2012 JohnCD (talk | contribs) deleted page Apple cores (G3: Vandalism)

My intention is to create such a page. I was missing this page as there is an analogue page http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Apple_cores?uselang=en

And, as I'm German, I tried to link the German page https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerngeh%C3%A4use which is German for 'apple core'.

Is it possible / useful to recreate this page?

Thanks for your assistance HumanDE (talk) 08:34, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

The page that I deleted said only "Apple cores are the bits inside apples that only weirdos and tramps eat." You are welcome to create a page at that title. JohnCD (talk) 08:41, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for deleting

I appreciate your quick response to my user page deletion request. You make this a happier place. Dovid (talk) 06:10, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Question about a quote on Game Insight

Game Insight - quotes one of the staff - Leonid Sirotin - (BLP) from his (reputed) facebook page. But the page is not visible to general viewing so can't be confirmed. It's originally in russian so I can't run a google search to see if anyone else cited him saying it. The person is supposed to have gained notoriety with the quotes and so I don't know if they should be included with just facebook as a source or not..--Antiqueight ^confer 11:04, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

I should say - I would appreciate your opinion on the best course of action here--Antiqueight ^confer 11:08, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

I have cut it out. WP isn't a platform for his rant - to include it would need evidence that it had actually caused a notable controversy. JohnCD (talk) 11:19, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I wasn't 100% sure I was right and had removed it once so before I got into a discussion I wanted to check.--Antiqueight ^confer 11:40, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Tunkhannock hoaxes

Since I've noticed your list for this, I wondered if you've seen the list of IPs going back to 2010 here, here and in other related threads. Appears to use pretty much anywhere in the Wyoming Valley if all 3 years are counted. Vandal has claimed some hoax taxa to be authored by "Edward J. Ostroski" and so that name is associated with the hoaxes as well. Koumz (talk) 16:16, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Another address active in July 2013: 173.86.56.198. Koumz (talk) 17:18, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

@Koumz: very interesting, thanks - I didn't know anyone else was tracking this! I have been using "Ostroski" as a search term to find them. I don't think anything can be done except play whack-a-mole, as the IPs are too widely spread for a rangeblock. The talk page hoaxes are just a minor nuisance, but more seriously they sometimes insert them into actual articles. I have been thinking about posting at WP:AN, mainly to ask other admins to be aware of it, so that when deleting an orphaned talk page of a pseudo-scientific nature they can check the IP's other edits to see if any need reverting, and to ask for comments on my recent tactic of blocking the IPs for two weeks, since they seem to be static over a few days. JohnCD (talk) 17:52, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Since the issue is now 3 years old (although sporadic) and counting, I agree with your idea about posting it at AN so that it's not just the few of us watching it and so that people have an idea what they're seeing (although many may not be biology specialists, a taxobox full of redlinked taxa, especially at the ranks above genus, is a good trigger for an investigation, at minimum), and know to track down (and revert, as is almost always necessary) any other edits from the same address (he has no good edits that I've ever come across). Koumz (talk) 18:41, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

@Koumz: now here's a turn up for the book! This conversation prompted me to do another sweep, and what did I find but the first actual account, Eddieost (talk · contribs), registered 4 October, whose contributions included Ostroski: "Ostroski, officially the National Wildlife of Ostroski, is a state that is located of West Road Litchfield Pennsylvania... " and a couple of other typical Tunk hoaxes. JohnCD (talk) 19:15, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

The strategy of hijacking redirects seems to be new since the last time I dealt with him at WS ~9 months ago (an evasion of NPP, perhaps). He also seems to have broadened to geography and other sciences in addition to the usual "biology"/cryptozoology fixation. Koumz (talk) 19:52, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

inre White Dwarf (film)

What a sorry stub. Unfortunately the IMDB website appears to be under a Denil of Service attack for the last 24 hours and I am unable to access information about the 1995 project. HOWEVER, once I can use it to expand my own search parameters I am a bit slowed in a rescue. BUT, full reviews in TV Guide and New York Times indicate to me that the film meets WP:NF. When I can get back into the IMDB database, I will take a personal hand in the article's expansion and improvement. I would be okay with it being userfied to me at User:MichaelQSchmidt/White Dwarf (1995 film) in the meantime, and drop you a note when It goes back to mainspace. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 12:54, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

@MichaelQSchmidt: thanks. I'll leave it where it is, because I see someone else is working on it, but I'll watchlist it in case it gets speedy-tagged. JohnCD (talk) 13:28, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

@JohnCD: Geeked it up some today. Determined through searches that IMDB is going through some DNS headaches which caused my server to be unable to connect to it... however, by changing my PC to use the Google Public DNS, I was able to get into it. Sheesh. Will be getting to the article in a bit. Thanks. I think its author might benefit from being steered to WP:PRIMER. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 23:06, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

• Exceedingly happy that you had the good sense to restore this article. I have found numerous independent sources speaking toward the project, many negatively... but WP:GNG and WP:NF are well met for this topic. Thank you. Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 04:22, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

• Got it up for DYK. Care to evaluate it for B-class? Schmidt, ^{Michael Q.} 09:17, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Admin's Barnstar
		Thanks for removing the articles. You are the best admin! Keep that crusade of you up!--Mishae (talk) 04:48, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

• Thank you, but you may want to take it back when you see my reply above! JohnCD (talk) 10:16, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Naqvi Orientation

Not sure if I should take this to SPI, but there is no way that Baqar ul hasan (talk · contribs) could have stumbled upon this be accident. I've deleted at Talk:PageName he/she created. Dougweller (talk) 08:34, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

I shouldn't bother, yet. I will take Naqvi Orientation to AfD, though, because the PROD is clearly going to be contested. If swarms of SPAs turn up at the AfD we may need an SPI. JohnCD (talk) 09:25, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Huh?

Hi John, but huh... are you serious about this? Did I miss something? - Cheers - DVdm (talk) 20:35, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

No, we edit-conflicted, I put it right as soon as I realised! Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 20:39, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Ah, OK then :-) - DVdm (talk) 20:41, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

VisualEditor newsletter on 16 October 2013

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Please help...

Hi John,
Good Day!
I am a contributor in Tamil Wikipedia (From India). I am creating a Portal on Carnatic Music (a type of Indian Classical Music). Please review and approve the following Portal main and support pages:

• Portal:Carnatic Music
• Portal:Carnatic Music/box-footer
• Portal:Carnatic Music/Categories

Regards - Selvasivagurunathan m (talk) 20:20, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi John,
Good Day!
Thank you very much for 'your welcome' and 'guidance' on my request. However, I have some experience in creating Portal, since i have created 2 Portals in Tamil Wikipedia. What i need from you is that review by Editor like you. What i understand is that English wiki has the practice of all the articles (or pages) has to be reviewed by a peer. Can you please help me on this regard? Thank you again! Regards - Selvasivagurunathan m (talk) 18:42, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Help on 'move'

Kindly move the following pages

• Portal:Carnatic Music
• Portal:Carnatic Music/Introduction
• Portal:Carnatic Music/box-header
• Portal:Carnatic Music/box-footer
• Portal:Carnatic Music/Categories

to

• Portal:Carnatic music
• Portal:Carnatic music/Introduction
• Portal:Carnatic music/box-header
• Portal:Carnatic music/box-footer
• Portal:Carnatic music/Categories

respectively! Music should start with lowercase 'm'. Refer Carnatic music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Selvasivagurunathan m (talk • contribs) 19:28, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi John,

Good Day!

Thank you for the guidance. I was unaware of this practice (rule to be followed during 'copy within Wikipedia'). I will implement this across all the sub pages. Regards Selvasivagurunathan m (talk) 11:33, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

You only need it for pages which have content copied from other pages. JohnCD (talk) 11:37, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Beetle deletions

FYI, I reversed two of your speedy deletions, Altica bicarinata and Altica aenescens. Mishae put them up for deletion (and he wasn't really sole editor, so G7 probably shouldn't have applied, but whatever), and then re-created them under the belief that this would save space on the server somehow. See [5] and [6] for discussion. I ran across these while dealing with yet another speedy nomination from him (which I declined) and I apologize for not discussing with you first. Best, Mackensen (talk) 04:09, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

John, can you reverse them back? Don't listen to Mackensen is just a rogue admin who shouldn't have been one in the first place. He will probably block me and then do the same to you!:(--Mishae (talk) 05:15, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

@Mishae: no, Mackensen is right, and whoever told you about saving space on the servers is quite wrong. Nothing is actually removed from the servers (that is why admins can see and restore deleted articles), so deleting and re-creating an article simply takes up more space, as well as losing the history. @Mackensen: I am jealous, I have been called many things but never achieved promotion to rouge admin! JohnCD (talk) 10:16, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Not the first time nor I suspect the last ;). Usually it's because I deleted something, not because I restored it! Mackensen (talk) 11:46, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

John, if he is right then why you deleted them in the first place?--Mishae (talk) 12:50, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

I deleted them because you asked, and because there were only trivial edits by others (though actually I was wrong on one, where someone had added an image). I thought you had probably made an error in the title, or something like that. If I had realised you wanted to delete simply in order to re-create in the mistaken belief that it would save space, I would have declined. JohnCD (talk) 19:25, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

According to G7, I, as an author had a right to delete them, no matter what. I am shocked to find out that people are like cattle here. It sounds like that no one can be an individual and everyone need to dance to tune, and those that wont will get either criticized or blocked at the discretion of (sorry to say that) evil admins. If I would have been an admin, I would have deleted those articles and recreated them. I personally don't see anything bad in doing so, however some folks think its against their rules, which are many, and probably were designed so that the admins have more leeway to block users for whatever reason they want. Wondering if any of them are being paid by Jimbo himself? By the way, what's wrong in recreation of an article?--Mishae (talk) 22:54, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

You do not have a "right" to delete them, and you certainly don't have a right to delete them no matter what. G7 is an author's request for deletion. It's not that "some folks think" it's against the rules; it is against the rules. Wikipedia's content is released under a license that requires attribution to all the authors of an article, not just the main author. This rule applies even to copying within Wikipedia. Deletion and recreation breaks this by removing the attribution; if you reuse the exact same content in a new article, you are reusing it without acknowledging that others may have worked on it, too. This is against the copyright rules. Not to mention the fact (and it really cannot be stressed enough) that there is no point to doing this, because it doesn't save space on the servers; it actually costs space on the servers.

Mishae, nobody wants to block you over this, and nobody will if you are willing to learn from this and move forward. This was an understandable mistake to make, and that's fine. But it's important that you acknowledge that it was a mistake, or at the very least agree not to do it any more. To be honest, I'm not really sure why you feel disrespected, but I'm sorry that you feel so: this is no kind of reflection on your abilities as an editor, none whatsoever. You just have to work with us a little bit. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 23:11, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

O.K. Still confused. On one hand you say that I have no right to delete them but at the same time, as an author I can ask for deletion, (since request is the same thing as asking)? If people are worrying that I am reusing their content without their consent, then maybe as an honest editor I will ask their permission first (I think its O.K. to do)? See, Ryan told me (and so did many other admins) is that I can combine my minor edits into bigger one, that's why I decided to delete and recreate it. Or its not a valid reason either, in your opinion?--Mishae (talk) 22:45, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

What I mean by saying you don't have the right to delete them is this: you are allowed to ask for deletion, but that doesn't mean that admins are obligated to actually delete it just because you asked. You're allowed to make the request, but admins are also allowed to decline that request.

I think you misunderstood what Ryan was trying to tell you. What I'm pretty sure that Ryan meant was this: If you were planning on making many small changes to an article, you could make them all at once and then save the page only once, as opposed to making a small change, saving, making another small change, saving, and so on for each change. In essence, he's saying that you could make one edit that incorporates all of your changes, rather than a separate edit for each change. He meant to combine your edits as you're making them, not after you've already made them. After the changes are already made, it's too late to worry about server storage: there is nothing you can do to actually reduce the amount of space Wikipedia uses. Nothing. Combining edits the way Ryan suggests minimizes the additional storage that the new edits will incur, but nothing can reduce the amount of storage that existing edits already incur.

Even if there was, there's really no point in worrying about it: storage space is abundantly cheap, and there is no shortage of it at all. For reference: the full wikitext of the page Altica bicarinata is 994 bytes. This is nearly a kilobyte (1024 bytes), so let's round up and say it's a kilobyte. The page has 23 revisions, so let's say each revision is the same size. So, the total storage space for this article, with all its history, is 23 kilobytes. I can buy a 3 terabyte hard drive for $200. This $200 hard drive can store well over 140 million copies of this article with its entire history; put another way, the space required to store this article and all its history would cost me .000142802 of a cent (that is, $.00000142802). I appreciate that you're trying to help, but the scale of the storage savings you're trying for are, to be frank, completely insignificant. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 23:13, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Well, if JohnCD is an admin and he made a decision to delete, then that's his decision. This thing sounds like you and many other admins (my guess), undermined John's credibility as an admin, and probably told him via IRC channel or any other electronic device that he will get blocked if he will do it his way, the admin way, because Wikipedia is not a place for individual thinking or what not. That's just my assumption, if it sounds like I am assuming bad faith, I am sorry, but that's how it is played out in Russian Wikipedia, so I assume it from there. If I am wrong let me know, but I have a feeling that overtime Wikipedia lost its credibility of being a site where people can freely edit. Like, in Russian Wikipedia for example, you make a stupid mistake, if a tiny one, you don't get a second chance. I don't know if its the same case here though. I will however, try to abide by every rule necessary, but as I mentioned earlier, Wikipedia have too many rules and some of them contradict with each other, not to mention that every Wikipedia language section have its own rules and traditions which a user need to abide by as well as the main rules.

That lets me to another question, if Wikipedia have too many rules (and some of them are confusing), maybe the consensus should vote on removing G7 rule, because since the admins wont delete the article per G7, because majority of articles are written in co-authorship with another user?--Mishae (talk) 15:23, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Your assumption is entirely wrong, and en:wp is nothing like you imagine. I do not use IRC, and it is absurd to imagine that an admin would be threatened with blocking over an unimportant incident like this. I deleted those pages because I did not know that your reason for deletion was the mistaken idea that deleting and re-creating them would save space. If I had known that, I would not have deleted them. Nothing is actually deleted from the servers, so deleting and re-creating uses more space, and arguing about it uses still more; but space is very, very cheap, so that is not serious. If you were advised to make a few large edits instead of many small ones, that was not primarily to save space but to avoid cluttering page histories. Yes most articles are edited by many people and so G7 does not apply to them, but it is still useful for cases where a sole author realises he has made a mistake.

Now, this has been a very trivial incident, and you have learned something from it; time to let it drop. JohnCD (talk) 20:16, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Maybe there was another reason to delete them. You said something about an error, what kind of error will give an excuse on deletion? Next time, I wont even say a reason why, because you did a good job by deleting them, and yet I think, you have been warned by others not to delete them even though that its your right to do it.--Mishae (talk) 20:40, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations

		100000 Edits
		Congratulations on reaching 100000 edits. You have achieved a milestone that very few editors have been able to accomplish. The Wikipedia Community thanks you for your continuing efforts. Keep up the good work!

If you like you can add this userbox to your collection.

This user has been awarded with the 100000 Edits award.

```Buster Seven Talk 20:38, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

• Thank you! I have not been watching the total, so I am quite surprised. That number is less impressive than it looks, because they are nearly all low-value routine mop-type admin edits, but still, somebody has to sweep the floors and take out the rubbish: they also serve who only stand and mop! JohnCD (talk) 22:32, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Page deletion

why did you delete my page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ritvik vasava (talk • contribs) 19:53, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

I explained on your talk page: Wikipedia is not a place to write about your friends. JohnCD (talk) 21:56, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of User:Sangai Karisalankanni Hair Oil spam page

That was fast... literally a minute or two after I tagged it. Thanks! :-) Ubcule (talk) 14:43, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Apologies

Hello JohnCD, I recently opened a page called 'iBassline'. I should have read the rules before ranting on about my company in the 'about me' section.

I can only apologise and have opened an account in my own name now. I really didn't mean to break any rules and will do my best to be a good wikipedia user in the future.

Best Regards, PJ Phillips. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PJ Phillips (talk • contribs) 18:00, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Bhramachari (1972 film)

Your bold renaming is reverted. Please discuss first, while we wait for someone else to close the RM. --George Ho (talk) 21:37, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

OK, let's wait for other views, but is it seriously suggested that "Bhramachari" isn't a spelling error? I looked at Google before making the move, and found "Brahmachari" well over ten times as common. JohnCD (talk) 21:48, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:AN#Ban Appeal of AKonanykhin

Hi. Since you contributed to the discussion resulting in the ban of Wikiexperts, you may want to consider the CEO's appeal at Wikipedia:AN#Ban Appeal of AKonanykhin. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 16:36, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Dr. Viney Pushkarna

Why you deleted this page from wikipedia. Dr. Viney Pushkarna is the great social worker and founder of PRANA in District. except this he is one and only naturopath in whole majha area who arrange 20+ free health programs. I think you people going mad about this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.199.88.68 (talk) 06:28, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

The article didn't explain why he was important or significant enough to be in an encyclopedia. It just said he was a naturopath and was chairman of an association, and gave no references. Wikipedia needs references showing significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. JohnCD (talk) 19:17, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

For deleting another of my empty pages (content now in article space, but I like to keep the horribly messy editin history of my pages a secret) I'm sure wieldinf the Wikimop is a pretty thankless task, so here is a thank-you. (shame about the beer, I'm sure you'd prefer a pint of bitter) TheLongTone (talk) 19:04, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

• Real ale preferred, but all contributions gratefully received! JohnCD (talk) 10:11, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Why delete?

john

why do you delete stuff is it like your life, just leave us alone!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hazzdog1 (talk • contribs) 08:53, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Answered on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 10:11, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

another wikilive

so on wikipedia's deletion response page you left a link about the other wikilive and not mine? isn't that a little bit of advertising right there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.53.113.249 (talk) 22:59, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Please help me

Hai John,

Hope you are doing fine. I am Jimmy Wendells , I wrote an article about V Star Creations Pvt Ltd. But it is deleted now by the speedy deletion method by one user loveoffood007 , I didn't understand what is the actual reason for deletion. Article content is completely defines about V Star Creations Company ,founders and the products .V Star Creations is very much popular in South India and its business spread over India and Middle East, also it is the sister concern of V Guard Industries.I felt article related to this much reputed organisation in wikipedia is very much necessary.The contents in the article taken from its own website and other 2 article sites that I have mentioned in the reference section of the article. I hope deletion happened as of misread, I kindly request you to please recheck the article and please help me to approve.And I request you to please guide me if the article is not fine. If I get a chance to re edit my article then its my plessure to do it. For your kind information this is the link https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/V_Star_Creations_Pvt_Ltd — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimmywendells12 (talk • contribs) 07:13, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

That was a blatant advertisement, written to "sell" the company and say how wonderful it is. Wikipedia is for information, not puffery, and requires a neutral point of view; anything like your article is speedily deleted. To make an acceptable article, you would have to tear that up and start completely afresh. I will provide some advice on your talk page in a day or two; meanwhile you could read User:JohnCD/Advice. JohnCD (talk) 10:15, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

V Star Creations Pvt Ltd

Is Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/V Star Creations Pvt Ltd close enough to the now-deleted article V Star Creations Pvt Ltd that a speedy-deletion is warranted, or should it go through the normal AFC process? I'm asking because you declined deletion review of the latter at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion#V Star Creations Pvt Ltd. If it is not speedy-deletion-eligible (specifically, if it is not a near- or exact-copy of the deleted article), it will be handled through the normal AFC process. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 01:18, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

@Davidwr: let it go through the normal AfC process. It's toned down a lot from the version I declined at REFUND. I promised the author some advice, which I will give him later today. JohnCD (talk) 14:22, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Someone has since created V Star Creations. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 22:04, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

So they have. Well, it's very much better than the first attempts, not bad enough to be speediable, and I see people are working on it. It may end up at AfD as non-notable, but let's see how it goes. JohnCD (talk) 08:30, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanked...

I see that you recently thanked me for an edit. I confess that I had to restrain myself from using a much more sarcastic edit summary, but I reminded myself to comment on contributions, not on the competence of contributors. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:51, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Don't let anyone call you a pedant - the word is precisian. I am normally of the "language is what people actually say" school rather than "language is what the books say", but the remnants of a classical education give a twinge at things like that. JohnCD (talk) 08:25, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

changes made to October 25 page

John,

Thanks for your message. I was unaware before of the edit summary feature - I will use it every time now!

The edit in question that you messaged me about (the removal of Jean Titelouze from the Oct.25th deaths) was bonafide - the Wikipedia page for Titelouze shows the death as October 24, not 25, and I double checked the death date in Oxford Music Online, an authoritative musicology reference source. I went ahead and removed Titelouze again from the October 25 page (including an edit summary) and will move the reference to the October 24 page. Thank you for your input! Abbeyth (talk) 19:56, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

@Abbeyth: excellent! Learning by making mistakes is much the best way. Cheers! JohnCD (talk) 16:09, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Cheshire railing

FYI, you suggested that we cover this topic. Since I was a child in Cheshire, I have long wondered about these railings and, as it fits well with another larger topic, I have just made a start. Andrew Davidson (talk) 10:01, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

@Andrew Davidson: splendid! Long ago I read an old magazine article, maybe in Country Life, which explained that they had been developed in the 1920s with the rise of the motor car, I think by a Chshire County Surveyor, who had them installed to replace hedges at corners in order to improve visibility; but I have never been able to track it down, or find any other source. You have revived my interest, and I will start digging again. They are pretty well confined to Cheshire afaik, though I passed an example a few miles into Staffordshire yesterday. JohnCD (talk) 16:07, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Pan Pantziarka

Thanks for letting me know; now at AFD. GiantSnowman 11:37, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Napoleão Bezerra

Reportedly you deleted the page about Major Napoleão Bezerra, but not the reasons that led him to do this. Can you tell me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.232.19.183 (talk) 17:39, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

I deleted it as a result of the deletion discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Major Napoleão Bezerra. Wikipedia is quite selective about subjects for articles: the inclusion criterion is called WP:Notability (em Português: pt:Wikipédia:Critérios de notoriedade) and requires references to "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject (cobertura significativa de fontes reputadas e independentes do assunto tratado.)" Also, the article seemed to be written as a memorial from his family, but that is not appropriate for an encyclopedia - see WP:NOTMEMORIAL #4.

I see that an article on the Portuguese Wikipedia was deleted for similar reasons: "Biografia sem fontes fiáveis independentes e providas por terceiros que corroborem as informações fornecidas e atestem relevância."

If independent sources can be found to establish notability, it might be best to start by writing an article on the Portuguese Wikipedia, whose editors would be better placed to assess them; if accepted there, translation to the English Wikipedia could be considered. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:05, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Article submission Dragons: Real Myths and Unreal Creatures

Thanks for the message on my article submission Dragons: Real Myths and Unreal Creatures. I was trying to recreate this article from one I previously submitted under another account. That could be why it was looked at as a copyrighted piece since I did copy and paste from the original document which was blocked because I created it under my business name rather than as a personal user. I have rectified that situation, but cannot revise the original article. I did not merely copy and paste from another source to my knowledge. Most of the information is contained within the film. I did use IMDB and other sources, and did reference other books and articles that have been written on the film and dragon-related topics. If I need to be more specific about just the film, please let me know and I would be happy to revise the article to better suit Wikipedia's standards. It's my first article, and I tried to follow all guidelines closely. I would appreciate any specific feedback you may have. Perhaps I need to create something more specifically and succinctly about the film and its unique docu-fictional approach and have other contributors add the additional dragon information. Any help would be welcome. Thank you for your time and consideration. RichSwietek (talk) 14:03, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

I have replied on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 16:16, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Article on Dragons: Real Myths and Unreal Creatures

Understood. Got it. Will focus on the film more specifically and reference sections of the website if necessary to augment my own thoughts. Appreciate the feedback. RichSwietek (talk) 16:21, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Could use your assistance

I was reviewing Abolfazl Ramezani Moghaddam and I did a google search to find that much of the page didn't make sense. The man according to the search was a UK national, the companies owned by other people (note one of the companies has just changed name)..I could be wrong. But I put a CSD on it hoping someone else could comment. The references are all links to the page itself which could be a coding mistake. But the owner has repeatedly removed the tag although I asked him not to. I have put it back a couple of times but I won't keep doing it because I won't go to war. But I could use a sensible third person to take a look at the page and check it. I will back off in the meantime and leave it alone. Will you have a peak? I ask because you seemed to be online - I also asked Salvidrim! to take a look but may have missed him being online. -- 🍺 Antiqueight <sup>confer</sup> 14:59, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Zapped. Quite right. Thanks. JohnCD (talk) 15:49, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Good to be able to get another opinion and it helps when that opinion can take immediate action!-- 🍺 Antiqueight <sup>confer</sup> 15:57, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

He's back Abolfazl Ramezani Moghaddam. :-)-- 🍺 Antiqueight <sup>confer</sup> 16:29, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Zapped again, and {{uw-create3}}. Reaching for the salt-cellar, to have it handy... JohnCD (talk) 16:51, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

LOL - I think he's on my watchlist still so I'll keep an eye anyway..-- 🍺 Antiqueight <sup>confer</sup> 17:12, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi John, Im just here to leave a kind message about you deleting my page, I have spent literally all day making this page and it is very frustrating when you delete it because it is all 100% legit and NOT a hoax. If you please reply to this message or please undelete or not delete the next page i make. Thanks, Fahd — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fahd234 (talk • contribs) 17:21, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Abolfazl Ramezani deleted, both titles salted, hoaxer blocked - he has had fair warning. JohnCD (talk) 18:05, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Wow - so you needed that salt. That was dedication to a story from him. I just swung by his page to see if he had added anything and saw he'd been here and that he was blocked.-- 🍺 Antiqueight <sup>confer</sup> 18:11, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Better continue to watch for socks popping up with variations on the name. JohnCD (talk) 18:16, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Will do - there is at least one other I check for from time to time so adding this is simple enough.-- 🍺 Antiqueight <sup>confer</sup> 18:20, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

AGAIN??

WHy did you delete it again?! I will give you money!? If you undelete it please, I need that page up there for a while, I beg you , I will do anything, I will give u money through paypal ;) ALLOW JOHN! ALLOW PLEASE — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fahd234 (talk • contribs) 17:43, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Deleted again because it was not true, again. Wikipedia does not publish false biographies. JohnCD (talk) 18:03, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Please check the pending registeration request on WP:AWBCP

There are 6 pending requests on WP:AWBCP. --Kc kennylau (talk) 13:12, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Christian Economy

I gave it a few days, and after no change, I went ahead and nominated Christian Economy for deletion. But I've just realised that my initial prod was wrong - the article had previously been prodded and deprodded. Oh well, no matter. StAnselm (talk) 00:59, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

No worries! - it comes to the same in the end. There is an {{oldprodfull}} template a de-prodder can put on the talk page, but not many bother. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 21:38, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for Advice

Nannadeem (talk)Respected JohnCD Thanks for precious advice. Would you like your advice for a learner of KG/1st Grade for his expulsion from School or class due to late comprehending or not learning quickly. Whatever your advice be for that learner I would like to follow that. Whatever I could learn from my life is that there is no defeat where there is a force of try again. Am writing something more "Elf Life". Your permission before editing is requested. With best wishes & regardsNannadeem (talk) 16:26, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

@Nannadeem: your position is not that of a first grade pupil excluded from school for learning slowly. Nobody wants to exclude you from Wikipedia, and you do not need permission from me, or from anyone, to write another article.

Your position is more like that of someone who wants to play the drums and is trying to join a group which is only for playing the violin. What you want to do - publish your original ideas and theories - is reasonable, but Wikipedia is not the place to do it, because it is in Wikipedia's terms "original research", reading a lot of source material and deriving a new idea. That is called SYNTHESIS - a good thing to do, but not what an encyclopedia is for. An encyclopedia is only for summarising ideas that have already been published. That is why the WP:No original research policy says:

"Do not combine material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources."

I advised you to look for another outlet only because I am afraid that if you continue to write similar articles they will also be deleted, and that would be a waste of your time and ours. When you look here and here and here, you will see that everyone is saying the same, and you should accept that this is what the Wikipedia community thinks.

There is a sister site at Wikiversity which you could try. I do not know much about them, but they I believe they are prepared to accept original research. JohnCD (talk) 23:28, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for advices. I appreciate. Would use advice as candle in the night, at present I am traveling in the day. ThanksNannadeem (talk) 12:19, 31 October 2013 (UTC.

Nannadeem (talk) 22:51, 2 November 2013 (UTC) Having seen your comments on deletion review page, am getting message I should stop writing on WP, am I wrong? Nannadeem (talk) 22:51, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

@Nannadeem: no, that is not quite the message: the message is that if you want to write the same type of article, Wikipedia is not the place, because they will be deleted as original research and synthesis. I have done my best to explain that, including above, but you are evidently unwilling to accept it. It is not just me telling you: all of the contributors to two AfDs (1, 2) and two DRVs (1, 2) have said the same. JohnCD (talk) 21:33, 3 November 2013 (UTC).

Nannadeem (talk) 12:20, 4 November 2013 (UTC) Ok, Sir, Thanks. I will attempt to write article in light of your message. However, Please accord me your advice whenever you find from the case of my writing. Thanks again.

Question about users

I have noticed a page was created (and then later deleted) for Sabrina porshi. It was by User talk:SabrinaPorshi. Which led me to User:Porshi. I believe they might be the same person as they are both creating the same page on the user page for Porshi. But I'm not sure of the correct step to take.-- 🍺 Antiqueight <sup>confer</sup> 20:49, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Elf or Jinn

Just thought you might take a look at this article being created by User:Nannadeem - I don't think they have understood how to edit WP.-- 🍺 Antiqueight <sup>confer</sup> 16:33, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

See my conversation with him four threads above this. We'll see how it develops. JohnCD (talk) 16:43, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

It was that conversation that drew me here...in a roundabout manner..Wasn't really sure what you could do but thought you might be the only one who could do anything to help this editor..Maybe I'll swing by the talk page and see if I can lend an explanation later too..-- 🍺 Antiqueight <sup>confer</sup> 19:56, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Nannadeem (talk) 17:03, 4 November 2013 (UTC) I have been editing Elf or Jinn, but during my edit some one deleted. Is this a fair contribution. Please restore it so that I could complete it. Thanks.

@Nannadeem: oh, dear. This is just what I was afraid would happen. You should first ask the deleting admin, user Mike Rosoft (talk), whether he is willing to undelete it or userfy it for you to work on; if not, you will have to go to WP:Deletion review, again. JohnCD (talk) 23:00, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

User:Fatus fee lagos

Here's an odd one: Take a look at the history of this user page. The user page has been around for a couple of years, but all of the sudden it is being updated by one new user after another, and it is typically their only edit. Could all be innocent, of course, but it's certainly unusual and may be something to keep an eye on. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 21:49, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

I have put {{user page}} on it for a start, which makes clear it's not an article and NOINDEXes it. MfD as a WP:FAKEARTICLE would be the next step, but let's watch and see what happens - it's not desperately bad, yet. I guess all these SPAs are a fan club, but I don't see anything needs doing to them, yet. JohnCD (talk) 22:52, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I'd done the template, but the edit just before yours removed it and I didn't notice. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 23:23, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Abhishek shuklA

Hi John. Since you declined A7, I prodded it. User also created article as Abhishek shukla. You might want to look at what seems to be the use of multiple accounts there. Best, Sam Sailor <sup>Sing</sup> 13:13, 4 November 2013 (UTC) ... and I forgot: page moves. Sam Sailor <sup>Sing</sup> 13:20, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

When I removed the A7 tag, it was on his user page, where for some reason he created it complete with A7 tag; so I replaced the tag with {{user page}} and left him a message about NOTWEBHOST. Now he has moved it to the mainspace, A7 certainly applies again, and I have zapped it. I have also put his user talk page back where it should be. Unless he gets the message soon, it will be block time, but I'll try warnings for now, and explain that he should stick to one account. JohnCD (talk) 14:21, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Both accounts still in use, page move has been repeated today now creating AbhishekshuklA. Best, Sam Sailor <sup>Sing</sup> 10:40, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

That's enough - he is clearly only here to write about himself. RHaworth has blocked both accounts. 12:57, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Sophie_Louise_Bay

Hi JohnCD,

You recently deleted the aforementioned addition.

My good friend Marcus Roskill created this page, on my behalf prior to my return from the Arctic last month.

I have spent the past 5 months in the Arctic on an expedition, in an area with limited charted or named geographical information, many historical navigational inaccuracies etc. Amongst other aspects of the exploration was to carry out seabed surveys and navigational inaccuracies. Even in todays world of satilites and GPS's there are many errors in the Arctic still.

My expedition, through the North West Passage from the Pacific to the Atlantic is well recorded.

The LAT/LONG and description of the bay now named 'Sophie Louise Bay', that Marcus Roskill has added has no known or recorded previous name, and in respect to naming it is being recognised by amongst others the Ocean Cruising Club, the Royal Cruising Club and others - all of who have current and historical links to the naming of previously uncharted or little charted / named locations.

Therefore I am unclear why this claim / wikipedia addition has been deleted?

Yours sincerely Richard Nicolson richardnicolson@hotmail.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.43.1.179 (talk) 21:15, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

The short answer is, Wikipedia is not for announcing anything new, or the result only of personal knowledge. A fundamental policy is Wikipedia:Verifiability: "any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source". "Reliable" includes an element of independent editorial oversight, so blogs, or a first-hand account such as your log, would not be enough.

Your new place name could only be included once it has been independently documented. I do not know, but will enquire, what would be considered adequate authority to establish a new geographical name.

More later today - watch this space. JohnCD (talk) 10:32, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

John, Firstly thank you for your response. I am very new to the rules etc of Wikipedia so will find the time to establish the correct protocol etc. Likewise now we have returned from the Arctic I will be ensuring the claim is recorded via the relevant channels where possible including the Royal Crusining Club Pilotage foundation.

With thanks Richard Nicolson — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.43.232.23 (talk) 22:04, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

I have moved this up to keep the conversation in one place. When it arrived, I had just finished writing a long screed of advice, which I will give you below here. Management summary: for bureacratic reasons Sophie Louise Bay has been restored, but deletion is being discussed at WP:Articles for deletion/Sophie Louise Bay. That has the advantage of bringing in more people who may have useful advice. Rest of long screed:

I am afraid I must now burden you with some Wikipedia bureaucracy. I deleted the article under a process called WP:Proposed deletion intended for uncontroversial deletions, but the rules are that any article deleted in that way shall automatically be restored on request. So I have restored the article; however, since absence of reliable published sources, at least for the immediate future, makes it unacceptable, I have nominated it under another process, WP:Articles for deletion, which will start a debate, lasting normally seven days, at the end of which and uninvolved administrator will decide what to do, basing the decision on the arguments presented, not on a count of heads. The debate is at WP:Articles for deletion/Sophie Louise Bay, and you are welcome to contribute. Read WP:DISCUSSAFD first.

WP:Notability is mentioned there. That is Wikipedia's inclusion criterion, and is is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by references showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." The test is, have people not connected with the subject thought it significant enough to write substantial comment about? The advantage of that is that, rather than asking "do we think this is important?" it asks the more objective question "Is there evidence that people not connected with this subject think it important?" See WP:Notability (summary).

I am afraid you will now be thinking that this is all much more difficult than you thought. I have explained things at length, because we do not do enough to explain to new users what Wikipedia is not for: it is easy to see it as the ideal place to announce your discover or promote your new name, but that will not work. First the name has to become established; only then can we cover it. Again, we are not deciding what is or is not important; we are waiting for evidence of what unconnected people consider important. Another relevant policy is WP:No original research which includes: "If no reliable third-party sources can be found on a topic, Wikipedia should not have an article about it. If you discover something new, Wikipedia is not the place to announce such a discovery." JohnCD (talk) 22:14, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much...

...for your message at User talk:JamesBWatson#Template:Bio-warn-deletion. I've replied there. JamesBWatson (talk) 21:14, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

kING hENRY viiii

dEAR wHOEVER

i AM VERYINTERESTE DIN HENRY VIII BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN MADE INTO A TV DRAMA SERIES AND HE WAS A PLONKER. CAN YOU MAKE HIS PERSONALITY MORE ENVISABLE? BECAUSE LIKE MOST KINGS OF ENGLAND, HE WAS A FARCE. THANKS, KERRY, KIND REGARDS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.64.117.33 (talk) 11:53, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

There is quite a full article about him at Henry VIII of England. If you have suggestions for how to improve it, I suggest you make them on the article talk page. JohnCD (talk) 12:43, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

article for submission Chen Da (Chinese folk singer)

Dear JohnCD, thank you for restoring the article for submission on Chen Da. Also for confirming that basically I've got the right idea concerning necessary improvement of the article. I'll try my best to get it done as soon as possible.JoanX.Chen (talk) 16:44, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chess.com

Hi, would you userfy the deleted page, to me, please. With a couple of other editors I am considering a new version and I need to check that it is sufficiently improved to avoid a G4 deletion and whether there is content I can use (even unsourced content might be useful if I can source it). The Whispering Wind (talk) 18:43, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

I will email you the text so that you can see what is there - not much, and most importantly no references except to the site. This was not only deleted at the AfD, but an appeal was turned down at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2013 February 9. In each case the keep faction was saying "It's big! It's important!" and the delete faction was saying: "GNG! If it's big and important, show us some independent reliable sources that say so!" and getting no response

After that history, there is no point starting on a rewrite unless you really can show references to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. If you can, and want to use any of the existing material, I will undelete/userfy for you to preserve attribution - a bit messy, as it has been overwritten with a redirect which is currently at RfD, but possible.

Unless I find your draft extraordinarily convincing, I would either get you to ask again at DRV with a link to it, or (since DRV would probably say "recreate and relist") go straight to another AFD. I'll think about that. JohnCD (talk) 20:34, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I have temporarily enabled emails from users so it gets through. The Whispering Wind (talk) 20:38, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Got it thanks:-) The Whispering Wind (talk) 20:48, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Illicitencounters.com

I hope IPs don't cause any more trouble. I see that some ip editor did not fully understand notability of this topic back then. "Pending changes" if "unprotection" is too much? --George Ho (talk) 20:59, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Unprotected. Thanks for pointing it out - that was over two years ago and I had completely forgotten about it. I don't really know why I made it indef rather than, say, a month. JohnCD (talk) 21:15, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank You for your help

Thanks for your help!Today's Xtra (talk) 13:31, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

My pleasure. JohnCD (talk) 21:53, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hello, this user (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.105.217.246) continues persistent vandalism across numerous pages, including many for R&B group TLC and other acts such as Mariah Carey. They've been blocked various times and continue to misbehave. I am at odds on what to do, as I want to avoid an edit war. Thanks.Carmaker1 (talk) 19:34, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Blocked again, thanks. The best place for a report like that is WP:AIV, which is watched by many admins, so will probably give a quicker response. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 21:53, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Experienced eyes, please

Please look at the contributions of the user PrincessKannapolis whom you have advises in the past, together with her declaration that she edits on behalf of her client. I have left a very clear note on her talk page about paid advocacy, but am probably standing too close to her work and articles to make a sensible judgment. Even were I an admin I would recuse myself from taking action and ask for other eyes.

She has returned from her 3RR block and is straight back in action massaging her (I do mean 'her') article about her client, a lady who may or may not be notable, but appears not to be to me. Others may disagree.

My concerns is that she is riding a coach and horses through paid COI editing. Your view may vary. I was tempted to take the issue to ANI, but, again, I am standing too close to the matter to be certain that I am reacting impartially. Whether I have always agreed with you in the past or not, and I cannot remember either way, I respect the way you analyse matters, so I am asking you to take a look. Fiddle Faddle 10:12, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

I don't think any further action is necessary, yet. What she is doing is strongly discouraged but not actually prohibited. It seems likely her articles will get zapped at AfD and then maybe we will have heard the last of her. JohnCD (talk) 10:51, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

There is a likelihood that the movie, Identical may garner some more opinions in support. She seems unwilling to take notice of a very firm warning, but I am glad I asked for an opinion, and am content to watch and wait. Fiddle Faddle 23:17, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

She seems to get more prolific, regrettably. Fiddle Faddle 09:43, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Administration Noticeboard

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive819#Conflict of Interest / Paid Advocacy regarding an issue with which you may have been involved by virtue of inspecting or otherwise looking at the edits of the reported user. Thank you. Fiddle Faddle 14:02, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Portal:Personal life

Hi! Earlier today you deleted Portal:Personal life with an edit summary pointing to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Personal life. I think that could cause confusion, since that's a 2006 discussion resulting in "Keep". Is it worth restoring the page and deleting it again with a link to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Personal life (2nd nomination)? -- John of Reading (talk) 19:56, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

 Done - thanks for pointing it out. There is a script that fills in the deletion reason - I didn't know it couldn't cope with a second nomination. I'll have watch that in future. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 20:04, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

How to write articles that won't be deleted?

CAN YOU HELP ME SO THAT MY ARTICLES DON'T GET DELETED? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Struwilkie98 (talk • contribs) 11:50, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Short answer: read WP:YFA and choose a notable subject. More on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 21:44, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Shane Somers

Sir, Shane Somers does indeed exist. The proof has always been here. If you would kindly look at the following link: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/NWA_Central_States_Heavyweight_Championship . you'll see that Shane Somers is listed as the Central States Heavyweight champion, working for NWA Central-States Championship wrestling, a valid reference. Shane Somers is a wrestling superstar in the midwest. When this page is undeleted, I will update and add all necessary corrections and references to prove that he is real, and the things said about him in this article are true. I ask that you be considerate in this matter. I am open to advice on what specifically is wrong with the page, and I ask that I be given a reasonable amount of time to rectify the errors. Thank you so much, I apologize for not catching this sooner, have a great day.

Todd Todd93 (talk) 15:01, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

I have "userfied" the article for you to work on - more on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 22:08, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

That Jay-P article

Did you notice that the talk page you deleted looks just like the AfC article? And that AlexanderGee looks very like Alexanderzee as an editor? Fiddle Faddle 15:09, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I'm sure he was trying an end-run round the AfC queue, but he has been headed off at the pass and now he is working on the AfC version. I'm sure they are the same person, but I'm not too bothered - there is no overlap in edits. JohnCD (talk) 22:15, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Question

just wondering why its made up? I guess I have a magic camera that took pictures of it. your site is the joke . my iq is 139 you dipshit — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.16.59.123 (talk) 14:25, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

As you haven't said what you are talking about, I can only guess; but I suggest you apply your large IQ to reading and understanding Wikipedia:Verifiability. JohnCD (talk)

Help Me. I am creating Alessandro Perriello and you just deleted it again. Why? Call me <number redacted>

<text of article removed> — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarsPerriello (talk • contribs) 16:47, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not for what you are trying to do. Replied on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 17:07, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Block Request

Can you wield the block hammer and protect the pages User:Mine.matt69 has recreated? Multiple removal of csd templates, edit warring etc. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 17:01, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Mojo Hand got there first with the hammer; I have salted the pages. JohnCD (talk) 17:11, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you sir Hell In A Bucket (talk) 17:12, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

@Hell in a Bucket: FYI: WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Matt.booth9. JohnCD (talk) 22:31, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

BGVPN

Hi JohnCD,

I am not experience guy in Wikipedia. Years ago, I just want to create a page for BGVPN. This VPN service was (and it is) useful for lot of Bulgarian people living abroad.

Thank You! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.100.54.79 (talk) 13:47, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

There is an "Articles for creation" submission at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/BGVPN which was restored at your request in September. You can work on that, and click "Resubmit" when it is ready. Read WP:Your first article for advice, and note that you need to add references showing significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources to establish Wikipedia:Notability. JohnCD (talk) 15:26, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Wil Harris

Hi John.. This is Wil Harris.. I'm a bit confused.. Is there anyone from Wiki that may be availble to help me do a wiki encyclopedia page? I thank you for your reply in advance.. Wilbur Harris. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WilHarris (talk • contribs) 15:27, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 16:23, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted pages visible on Search Engines

Thank you for your help. However, why are these deleted pages visible on search engines? Referring to t Covalense https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Covalense and User:Covalense/sandbox https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Covalense/sandbox — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sigh0402 (talk • contribs) 08:59, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

It takes search engines some time to catch up. You will find that in two or three days they no longer show up on searches. JohnCD (talk) 09:33, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for all your help.Really appreciate it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sigh0402 (talk • contribs) 10:55, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi John. I'm on the cusp of blocking the above user (Sigh0402) as an obvious sock created to circumvent the block on User:Covalense. However, I see that you've had dealings with both incarnations, and since you've chosen not to issue a block, wondered whether I was missing something. Is there any reason you know of for not blocking Sigh0402 for block evasion? Yunshui 雲‍水 11:09, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

@Yunshui: I didn't block because Sigh0402 seemed to be only concerned with deleting everything and removing all trace. However I didn't then notice that he had posted two articles about Covalense after User:Covalense was blocked, so it is certainly block evasion and I would have no objection to blocking and telling him to request unblock on the main account. JohnCD (talk) 15:51, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Done. Cheers John. Yunshui 雲‍水 15:54, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Request to Repeal Deletion

I recently wrote a page on "Vahanianism". I want to share this religion and let people know about it. It is very important, as I believe it can save the souls of God on high. Please consider undoing the deletion. I would appreciate it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vouzounian2 (talk • contribs) 17:53, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

@Vouzounian2: no, sorry, an encyclopedia is not the place for you to tell the world about your new religion. I have already pointed you to WP:NFT which explains some reasons. The fundamental policy concerned is Wikipedia:No original research, which includes:

"If no reliable third-party sources can be found on a topic, Wikipedia should not have an article about it. If you discover something new, Wikipedia is not the place to announce such a discovery."

See Wikipedia:Alternative outlets for ideas on where you could write about it. JohnCD (talk) 19:49, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for tidying up my mess, JohnCD. I was not entirely focussed on the job!TSRL (talk) 22:13, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

No worries, my pleasure! JohnCD (talk) 23:00, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

another thanks

for taking care of my SPEEDY. VanIsaac<sub>WS Vex</sub><sup>contribs</sup> 10:51, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

As above! JohnCD (talk) 20:31, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/SAHRIS

Hi - thanks for responding to the request for the undeletion. We actually wrote the Wiki article and the CIPA article around the same time (April/May) this year which is why they are so similar. Instead of restoring the article, could someone please email the text to me as I did not keep a copy - I want to write the article from scratch but would like the banner structure on the right hand side and some of the main points as I found it a pain to try and work out the html the last time. Thanks!105.237.21.189 (talk) 16:42, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

 Done. I presume you are user Knocknacree (talk) - I have sent the text to that email link. JohnCD (talk) 16:49, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, JohnCD, for your help with the notability criterion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cameron Laird (talk • contribs) 20:15, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

/UserProfileIntro

Do you have any idea what is leading new users to create subpages at /UserProfileIntro ? Here's an 'everything' search for the term on WP: [7] Less than 25 new users have created the page (not counting deleted pages I cannot see), there are not any older than 11-22-13, and there is no other reference to it anywhere on WP (other than my CSD log). The new users seem too varied to be part of a class, so it's got me puzzled. Across the board the new users appear to think they are creating a user page at the top level, but they create the /UserProfileIntro subpage instead. Any ideas? --| Uncle Milty | talk | 14:36, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Oop, I think Google found me a clue: "Add all logic for edit profile pages in JavaScript - change (mediawiki...MobileFrontend)" This code change was introduced on the 20th of November. I'll see if I can find a way to notify the right people. Thanks for listening. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 14:52, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Report filed at Bugzilla. Hopefully correctly. Thanks. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 15:26, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Thank you and can you please help

Thank you! Now that the review is complete could you please help me to get the sign/message in front off my page. Would deeply appreciate.

Thank you kindly.

(Tnoova (talk) 17:22, 29 November 2013 (UTC))

(Tnoova (talk) 17:21, 29 November 2013 (UTC))

Jodi Dean

APSA does not have copyrights. They are a non-profit professional organization, where members control and own their own descriptions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.210.134.31 (talk) 05:31, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Look at the bottom of the source page: it says "© Copyright 2013 American Political Science Association (APSA)". In any case, that was not an encyclopedia article, it was an election statement: "I support competitive elections... If elected to serve on the Executive Council of the American Political Science Association, I will be guided by three key concerns... " etc. That is not what Wikipedia is for. JohnCD (talk) 09:39, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

THANKS

Dude, Thanks for the advice

I've Rewrite the page and I think it is fine now. There are also some of my friends that having similar difficulty, But I'll told them what you told me. Once again, thank you for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewPierre (talk • contribs) 14:30, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Need Help !

Thank you so much John to consider on my request and for your advice. I need your help on my two following points.

1. As you have suggested to rename the user ID. I already have an another Wikipedia username ID which is on my name harishverma30. Is there anyway to move this article on harishverma30 or can you move it on the behalf of me. If yes, please do it so that it could meet your criteria.

2. I am also trying to Cite for Reliable sources as required by you. I have some urls which were posted by me for the collection Shyam Sunder Premi (on my Facebook account and on a music blog). unfortunately I am not getting success, trying to follow the instruction on https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:REFB. Although I am trying hard to Cite it but it would be great if you could help me.

Please help me on it. Regards, Harish — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shyam Sunder Premi (talk • contribs) 17:34, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

@Shyam Sunder Premi: it will be tomorrow before I have time to reply. JohnCD (talk) 18:54, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

65.28.58.13

Thank you for helping out. Perhaps other edits and their histories by this account need to be expunged as well. Cheers, JNW (talk) 16:32, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

I thought only that one needed rev-deleting, but on a second look I have done one other. Thanks. JohnCD (talk) 17:11, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Much appreciated, though I was really thinking of the edit at Quad/Graphics. Best, JNW (talk) 17:19, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

No, that one is generally offensive but not IMO bad enough to need rev-delete, which is meant to be kept for the most serious cases, mainly where people are named. JohnCD (talk) 18:55, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi John, Thanks for deleting User:Enock4seth/tips --Enock4seth (talk) 21:25, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Query on rename user ID request

Hi John, Yesterday I got success to put my request on rename the user ID from Shyam_Sunder_Premi to harishverma30 by filling a Simple form suggested by you. Also did some Citation for the article page on Shyam Sunder Premi. Can you please check it and reply me back that I have filled the info in a right manner as required by Wikipedia. If all are correct then when my article page on Shyam Sunder Premi will be live on Wikipedia? Regards, HarishShyam Sunder Premi (talk) 13:47, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Andrew Barr deleted page

Hello John, Good day! I see that you have deleted a page about me on Wikipedia: Andrew_Barr_(musician). I did not initiate the page, however it was a very useful tool, especially pertaining to the media and those curious about my accomplishments and current whereabouts. I am a musician, have sold well over 100,000 records in my groups The Barr Brothers and The Slip. The Barr brothers are currently an internationally touring ensemble, a top selling Canadian band and have made multiple national television appearances in the US and Canada. As a drummer I have performed and recorded with such platinum selling artists as Natalie Merchant, Lhasa DeSela, Patrick Watson, Alexi Murdoch, amongst others. I have appeared on Conan O'Brien and David Letterman with my group The Barr Brothers, am currently on Secret City Records and have conducted interviews with several media sources including Rolling Stone Magazine. I have been written about in The New York times amongst others. Not trying to self aggrandize here, just wondering if these accomplishments fall short of a wiki entry. Why my page was taken down I am not sure, but my colleagues and band mates seem to have their info intact and I am asking that mine please be restored. I have had requests for the information to be available on wikipedia as I know it is a trusted source for those doing research on public figures. Thank you. Andrew Barr 66.130.80.139 (talk) 04:49, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

That was nearly three years ago. The whole text of the article was: "Andrew Barr (born May 25, 1977) is a drummer and versatile percussionist best known for his work with The Slip, Surprise Me Mr. Davis and most recently Land of Talk. Originally from Rhode Island, Barr currently resides in Montreal, Quebec. Barr also plays in the Montreal-based band Super Little also known as The Barr Brothers", with no references, so you can see why it was not acceptable.

Wikipedia articles require references, for two reasons: (a) because of the WP:Verifiability policy: "any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source", and (b) to establish WP:Notability, the criterion for inclusion, which requires references showing significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources.

I do not advise you to write your own article - that is strongly discouraged - but if you write a brief outline of your career, and list references, I will see what I can do, or get someone else to do. Check out WP:MUSICBIO, the notability standard for musical performers, and give links to references (for notability these need to be independent, i.e. not press releases or your own or your band's website) to show how you meet it. I will make a page User:JohnCD/Andrew Barr where you can post them. I see we have articles about all the bands mentioned, which looks hopeful. JohnCD (talk) 22:42, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

User draft deletion

Thanks, John, for protecting my userspace draft from apparently hostile deletion. It was actually not a hostile deletion request, it was my request, but the computer I was on had been logged into Wikipedia by another user. I have followed your instructions and hope that the WP universe will continue to unfold as it should. Your assistance and guidance is most welcome. Architectsea (talk)

No worries! Page deleted as requested. JohnCD (talk) 16:41, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks John!

Thank you so much John for you kind help and guidance. I have put the remarks on both user ID as were suggested by you. May I request you to delete my both accounts from Wikipedia as I am not able to do it at my end. It's a very complicated process for me to submit an article here. However, I respect the Wikipedia policies and will it try later with proper required resources, if any I got.

The resource urls which I have provided on the Shyam Sunder Premi article are only the things which I have and there is nothing false. In those days (before 1993) there was not much more trend for online so will check the availability of required resources. Thanks again for your quick reply/guidance and sorry for your time taken. Regards, Harish — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harishverma30 (talk • contribs) 08:07, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Accounts are not deleted, so Harishverma30 will be there for you to come back to one day, I hope soon! Make sure you do not forget the password. Sources do not need to be online, but they do need to have been published so that, at least in principle, a reader could check that what Wikipedia says is not just opinion or something made up. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:11, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

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A cookie for you!

Thank you for helping User:Shyam_Sunder_Premi on my Talk page while I was offline. It's appreciated :) JMHamo (talk) 20:09, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! He was very ready to listen to advice, a pleasure to help. Unfortunately, as you will see three items above this, he has decided that for the moment the problems of sourcing are too difficult for his chosen subject; but I hope he will be back. JohnCD (talk) 22:46, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Signature problem

Hi John, I'm sorry it's been a while since you left a message on my talk page. My user name is still coming up as Hus Gallery, when it should be Jackie Hus. Would you mind looking into it for me? Also I am unsure how to go about making the required changes to the page and have those edits authorised? I just want to amend it to factual information and update relevant artists info etc to make it accessible as a research tool. Can you let me know who I submit edit approvals to and how? Thanks so much Hus Gallery (talk) 16:46, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 22:21, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Deleted page of "Courtney Ruiz"

I received an email about the Courtney Ruiz page being deleted because it was quoted under an autobiography. I am NOT Courtney Ruiz and do not fake to be her. I am 14 years old and know Courtney as a singer and actress in LA. She is an inspiration to me and so many other people. I feel she should have a Wikipedia page! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Courtneyruiz (talk • contribs) 05:48, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

I will reply on your talk page later today. JohnCD (talk) 14:54, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Thank you for taking care of protecting controversial articles. I can't take the heat all the time. Bearian (talk) 18:55, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

• Thank you! Cyberbot is a bit quick on the draw, isn't it, chipping in with "This page appears to already be protected" a minute after I protected it, so my {{RFPP}} met edit conflicts. JohnCD (talk) 19:06, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Alec Muffett article

Hello John

Thank you for undeleting the article, and for adding the infobox. I have added a couple more links, and I'm happy to do any other modifications that you think necessary. I am between projects at the moment, and have the unusual luxury of free time.

regards

Melodie

Melodien (talk) 21:19, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

@Melodien: what you could usefully do is write a "lead section". Wikipedia articles are supposed to start with a self-contained section which gives an outline of the subject - see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section. For a short article like this a single paragraph will be enough. It could be no more than "ABC was an X best known for Y and Z", but preferably a bit more than that. I was intending to do that this evening but will not have time - being retired, I have more or less forgotten what "free time" is! JohnCD (talk) 22:12, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks John, I've done a little lead section - is that what you had in mind?

Melodien (talk) 00:23, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

@Melodien: good. I have tweaked it a bit, and accepted it at Alec Muffett. Well done, thanks! JohnCD (talk) 12:39, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Courtney Ruiz (December 8)

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Rankersbo (talk) 20:28, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

• Not my submission, actually, see message on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 21:13, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Included the references meeting notability for Relaxation Therapy as you described. . . Barbarageorge

John, Four references have been added meeting notability requirements for inclusion in Wikipedia. Thank you so much for the clarity provided by your last communication. I look forward to your approval, should the updated version meet Wiki requirements. Barbarageorge (talk) 14:10, 10 December 2013 (UTC)Barbarageorge

Replied on your talk page. JohnCD (talk) 23:10, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Updating logo

Hello JohnCD, thanks for your prompt and helpful response. If I can update the logo myself then I'll take another look. To your question - they are very similar (!) but there are subtle difference in the lettering. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Obzie (talk • contribs) 18:14, 11 December 2013 (UTC)