User talk:Gerda Arendt/2015

Did you know ... that "Geh aus, mein Herz, und suche Freud", written by Paul Gerhardt after the Thirty Years War, was translated as "Go Forth, My Heart, and Seek Delight"?

despised and rejected

singing the praises of
the scuttled the banned and those who have just given up just given up

Hope is precious and great joy is found in living

Thank you for the sapphire—cornflower blue is a color of some significance to me. In the maelstrom that Wikipedia can sometimes be, remember these words from Ode to Joy:

   Wem der große Wurf gelungen,
   Eines Freundes Freund zu sein,
   Wer ein holdes Weib errungen,
   Mische seinen Jubel ein!
   Ja, wer auch nur eine Seele
   Sein nennt auf dem Erdenrund!
   Und wer's nie gekonnt, der stehle
   Weinend sich aus diesem Bund! 

Walk lightly and remain yourself, above the fray. →StaniStani  09:20, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, it helps to open my shop again. - I sang the words last year, here, helping. The blue colour is also of significance to me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

shop open --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:43, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Yay  :-)     — 74.192.84.101 (talk) 03:16, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Pange lingua, WAB 33

Harrias ^talk 00:03, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year Gerda Arendt!

Happy New Year!

Gerda Arendt,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:58, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2015}} to user talk pages.

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

• Also, happy new year! Drmies (talk) 04:56, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

A scandal ;) - Did the bracketbot see that dogs were boxed involved? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:21, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

2015 already

Hi Gerda. No frills - just a quiet ‘’all the best’’ to you for 2015 and I hope you’ll continue to be around on Wikipedia for a long time to come. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:57, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Von guten Mächten treu und still umgeben

File:Dietrich Bonhoeffer.jpg

Briefmarken-Jahrgang 1995 der Bundesrepublik Deutschland

Dietrich Bonhoeffer: Von guten Mächten treu und still umgeben.. no article? At least a translation... a stubb we could do... Hafspajen (talk) 19:01, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Good idea, but not now, several things postponed and promised, plus traveling. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:55, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Ortspyramide Wiesenbad

ps: any comments to the boxed dogs mentioned above? So lovely to be called to ANI first thing in the new year, and that was my second time ever ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:58, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Well, some day... I was singing this today and suddenly had a weird feeling of understanding him, what he meant and felt. You know he was executed in a concentration camp. Hafspajen (talk) 20:04, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

'PS: Checked but didn't really understood that box thing Hafspajen (talk) 20:04, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Bonhoeffer: yes I know. Like to sing the song with friends. Not even de has an article on the song, but two stanzas in his article. - Boxes: Look at the user pages of body and soul and enjoy ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:11, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

You know I really had the feeling of him almost standing beside me - and comunicating his faith and unmovable trust - it was ... well .. hard to explain. Things happen with music. Hafspajen (talk) 20:21, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, made my day! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Oh it was rather ... weird. I think he was a very nice guy. Foud DrSoul and Body ... What is this Ortspyramide Wiesenbad? Hafspajen (talk) 20:43, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Looks like an XXL Christmas pyramid to me, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Ah, Christmas pyramid. Do you have this kind of things in Germany? Hafspajen (talk) 21:13, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

The small ones are common, the XXL seems exceptional, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:17, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

A good 2015 to you and yours!

Hoping it is a happy and productive one for all! Regards from Irondome (talk) 00:52, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! - Repeating: no individual messages from me, music and peace on top, for all, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words

And thank you for considering me for the PumpkinSky Prize! Happy New Year! -A1candidate (talk) 12:06, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

I like opposes to a ban. - Your essay should be made recommended reading for those who don't find their own reason to stay, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Thnx and I 'll wait for you ;) Serten II (talk) 14:56, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Oppose banning, while u wait, and the revert of infoboxes, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:32, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Featured article without infobox? We tend to disagree on article titles sometimes, but deleting basic 21th century navigation features? Never ever. Serten II (talk) 09:49, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Say so on talk pages, - I know (that it always has been this way, that if you add an infobox to an article on TFA day you are disruptive and belong to be banned. The last time that happened was Pilgrim at Tinker Creek, July 2012 and unforgotten). - Watch what is scheduled for TFA and speak up WELL in advance, better watch what is discussed to be TFA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:13, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Funny and serious question

Hi Gerda! Hopefully this will be the funniest question you will see today. Would you please go to the talk page of the Wikipedia essay Wikipedia:Please be a giant dick, so we can ban you and weigh in on the question there of whether or not to rename the page? The situation is: An editor proposed that the silly essay name is actually offensive to female editors, and asked to rename it, then went ahead and renamed it. I don't think that he's right but I do allow for the fact that he may be. You are one of the most respected female editors I know, hence my humble request to you. I remember you and I met when you posted a lovely sapphire to my talk page after you spotted the link I keep to this page on my user page, saying it brightened your day. Prhartcom (talk) 21:35, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

I like funny and serious ;) - I am a woman, understand that some think "female" is for animals, never thought anything was wrong with that giant dick essay, but with banning (see above). Humour is tolerated here only in small doses, so I got called to ANI first thing in the new year and second time ever ;) - If you want to brighten my day further, read and comment my open FAC, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:14, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Brilliant response over there on that Talk page. Thank-you for coming to the aid of humour! I am eagerly reading this new FAC now. But if I comment it could become FA and then you will exceed me in number of FAs and we can't have that. Prhartcom (talk)

Oh! Thank-you for nominating Tintin in the Congo! Prhartcom (talk) 20:31, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

If you just comment (!) the FAC, "my" article will improve, - you don't have to support. (Also: it's only my second solo FA, the first two were done with Brianboulton, Tim riley and PumpkinSky, - thanks to those great guides to FA land.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Okay! It would be an honour to work with you. Give me a bit more time. That's the same with me; one solo, my others are with co-conspirators. I'm writing an article now that I want to take to FA. Prhartcom (talk) 22:37, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words

Gerda,
I am remiss in not thanking you earlier for the kind words on my talk page. I appreciate notes like that, more than you could possibly know. There are times when the work is draining, but there are no times when it's not an extreme honor. Thank you for making it possible.

PS - I stumbled across your work on Bach's B-minor Mass the other day. Well done. The talk page is a delight to read.

Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 00:10, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, - if you like the mass you may want to read my next attempt, BWV 22, or (in German) about the Missa, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:14, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

hello

Hey Gerda, thanks for your recent thanks, but where do you interact with DocJames? I know you as music page writer... I have all but given up contributing on medical pages, because of this man's attitude and ego. Gruss,--Wuerzele (talk) 08:46, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't interact but watch. Look above for banning. Miss the editor who dared to ask "Is a cup a drug?" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Happy New Year!

Gerda Arendt, I wish you a Happy New Year, and thank you for the good cooperation in the past as also in the future. Beagel (talk) 12:49, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Iam lucis orto sidere, WAB 18

Harrias ^talk 00:41, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

St Cecilia Mass

Message received but not entirely understood. What's wrong with the AllMusic site as a source? Is it regarded as not WP:RS? I can stroll down to the British Library if you tell me exactly what facts you want checked. Tim riley talk 20:11, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Talk to reviewer Johnbod who questioned the site. I thought you might have access to some general sources on such a well-known work. I translated from German, parts of an article by an author with intimate knowledge but practically no sources given. The text deviations are not well referenced, but in the score. More on music would be nice, such as the angel singing over the humming choir, the unison Creed and chant-like Benedictus. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:21, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

This picture

File:Stillleben ritter.JPG

Fairy Performance at Peterhof -1851

Dreaming of a song ... When you Wish Upon a Star? - Vom Himmel hoch

There is a photo in this article. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieter_Claesz Is that there to illustrate a point or it is jut a joke? --Hafspajen (talk) 13:16, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Which one in de:Pieter Claesz? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:19, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Looks like a joke to me. Question on talk. Ask "Was hat das Bild ... mit dem Künstler zu tun?" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

That appears to be a modern wine bottle. Sca (talk) 14:39, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

... and a photography anyway, of 16xx? ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:41, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I see it's been deleted by one Michael Bednarek as a Witz. Sca (talk) 14:46, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Michael! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:48, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you from me too. Sca said I should remove it, but if somebody wanted to conversate with me about it, my German conversation would mostly confused people. I might have said weird thing so them - like slafen sie Deutsch and such-. My German friens always laugh about my German. Not the English, though. Actually I speak English much better than write. Hafspajen (talk) 14:50, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

I wish, I wish ...Wikipedia free from the Evil... Martin, come and help. Hafspajen (talk) 11:03, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

... if not Martin, I shall. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:03, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for offering! Free from evil is good, something good is better: read BWV 22, comment the FAC but of course only if you like it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:08, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

I do like it, and have seen from its history how involved you were. Great work! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 18:18, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Messiah (Handel)

Hi Gerda, I am quite sure a correct link was made in this article and I explained here. You might want to double check yourself. Thanks. Mdd (talk) 15:55, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, I thought it had been linked before, my mistake. - I was confused by two links to the same person, and it's very good to have him linked in the bibliography also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:58, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Ok, thanks again. -- Mdd (talk)

The "best of" of Bruckner's motets

Dear Gerda,

On his webpage Kleine Kirchenmusikwerke CD set John Berky is promoting Hans Roelofs' "best of" of Bruckner's motets.

Hans provided me with this 3 CD set two months ago. It contains recordings of all items of Band 21 of the Gesamtausgabe, except the sketches Nos. 42 (Kyrie g-Moll (Fragment) - WAB 140) and 43 (Kyrie Es-Dur (Fragment) - WAB 139), for which no recording is available. I enjoy it very much.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 19:55, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Spanish Hill

Thank you for your review of my DYK nomination! I appreciate your time and consideration. If you'd like to read more about Spanish Hill, I found a very interesting website online from a historian local to the area (Deb Twigg; she was also mentioned in the article). Spanish Hill. I wanted to include a little bit of fun information regarding "7 foot tall horned Indian skeletons" found in the area, but I couldn't justify its inclusion, since they weren't found on the hill specifically, but in the general vicinity. Anyway, thanks again for reviewing my hook, and for all your other great work at DYK and elsewhere.-RHM22 (talk) 19:01, 6 January 2015 (UTC) P.s., I see your point about the etymology being in the lede section, but I feel like it might be important information for visitors (all three of them) who might be looking for that specific information, although I did shorten that sentence to reduce its prominence.-RHM22 (talk) 19:04, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for coming over. Name in lead: just a question about weight, perhaps add more other facts there also. I like that the hook doesn't mention a place^ ;) - Best reading I can offer right now is BWV 22 (FAC open), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

That looks like an interesting article! I'll take a good look at it and at the FAC when I get a chance later tonight.-RHM22 (talk) 21:06, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Music

Rathaus Wernigerode

	The Musical sing Award
	The Musical singing Award Hafspajen (talk) 22:47, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Nice response to singing the praises of the outcasts ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:56, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

I guess you soon have to put Sagaciousphil ‎ on that list. Hafspajen (talk) 00:14, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

A well-deserved barnstar

		The Barnstar of Integrity
		Gerda, for your ceaseless efforts across the project to recognize and encourage civility, goodwill, and all manner of useful contributions -- and just generally to foster a collegial and warm atmosphere -- I hope you will accept this barnstar. I had considered giving you the Random Acts of Kindness star or the PumpkinSky Prize, but (unsurprisingly) I find they've already been awarded, so I've settled on this option, fresh and just as appropriate as it is. All my best. Snow talk 03:34, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

The "notorious infoboxes criminal" accepts with delight! I was planning to write on Geh aus, mein Herz, und suche Freud today (my mom's favourite song on her birthday) which is about seeking joy, - now joy just comes ;) - Thank you, made my day! (I still plan to expand the article, it's not too obvious anyway that it's about actively seeking joy when you don't see any.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:45, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Well, geteilte Freude ist doppelte Freude, as the old chestnut goes -- and it's always nice in particular to share it with someone who so exemplifies that perspective. But regardless of the source, I hope the day brings you more joy still.  :) Snow talk 10:47, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Enjoyable hike so far! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:41, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Te Deum (Jenkins)

Harrias ^talk 12:02, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Piano Sonata Hob. XVI/20

Harrias ^talk 12:02, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

Roth and Fowles, epitaphs and graves

Hi Gerda. Do you remember what I said here? I took a long time to upload that image for the Ernst Roth article. Now I've finally managed to do the same for the Leonard N. Fowles article. It being a musical subject and both having epitaphs related to that, I thought you might appreciate a note about this. On another note, I mentioned decay of graves in that comment back in January 2014, and you can see for yourself the difference in the condition of the graves if you look at the articles: William Birdwood, 1st Baron Birdwood, Ernst Roth, Francis Francis (writer), Herbert Edgar Weston, Frederick James Camm, Leonard N. Fowles, Laurence Oliphant (author), Joseph Jackson Howard, Edward Stanley Gibbons. Carcharoth (talk) 10:06, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! - Brief, on vacation, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:18, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Hilfe bitte

Hi Gerda! Since you're German, I was wondering if I could call on you for a bit of help? I just created the article for Günter Lamprecht, a great actor from your country. I mostly used a translated version of the German article, but obviously the translation can be gobbledegook at times. Do you think you could take a look, see if I understood correctly, and maybe add anything I missed? The stuff about him being involved in a shooting was particularly confusing. Cheers (and thanks again for the support with Hoffman, which has just passed - hooray!) --Loeba (talk) 14:37, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

How on earth was Günter Lamprecht missing!! A very familiar face of German cinema!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:45, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

I'm currently making my way through Berlin Alexanderplatz and absolutely love him in it, so it only felt right to create his article. He doesn't have many other notable roles, it seems, but it's still strange no-one had done it before. --Loeba (talk) 15:10, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

I know him from the masterpiece Das Boot, but I could have sworn I've seen him in a number of other films. His face is almost as familiar as Prochnow's!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:28, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you!

and Happy New Year! I have returned to my page after an absence of several months in which I have moved from Australia to UK. Such a nice surprise to return and discover that I was valued as precious!

Amandajm (talk) 18:11, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Emil

Emil Rau Besuch auf der Alm.

Emil Rau - lots of pics - no article. Hafspajen (talk) 20:13, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

• We can sing songs or play cards...or somebody can tell a story...or we can plan things...
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We can sing songs, - I do so on vacation, - start in a sandbox, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, seen enough, - VERY SLOW line where I am, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

YES, dear. Hafspajen (talk) 21:21, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

In a sandbox? Hafspajen (talk) 15:20, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, good idea. Back, btw, but a lot of work not done, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:30, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Piccy

Well I know who took this photo at least ... :) DBaK (talk) 21:22, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination Symphonic Prelude (Bruckner)

Dear Gerda,

I have amended the concerned paragraph as follows:

"... not everyone became convinced that the piece was originated by Bruckner and so the "controversial" piece remained rarely performed. The original orchestration was performed first ...".

OK so? --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:20, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

I like it but we will see what the good reviewer says. I watch the nom, no need to repeat here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:31, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for St. Cecilia Mass

The DYK project (nominate) 16:28, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

(whistle- imagine the sound file)

	Nightingale Award
	For the singing, feeding and cheering you do, at-tending to all of us, birds of many feathers. Wuerzele (talk) 09:11, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

"... die hochbegabte Nachtigall / ergötzt und füllt mit ihrem Schall / Berg, Hügel, Tal und Felder" - thank you, delighful composition! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:40, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Gerda

	Gerda for Gerda
	Gerda this is a Gerda for you. Hafspajen (talk) 19:25, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:16, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Herr Gott, dich loben wir

The DYK project (nominate) 20:30, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Konservatorium Wien

Hello. I recognized your revert to this article after I moved it to another name. Well, It is a bit strange if the name of all the other main articles of the Austrian conservatories are written in English except this article of Konservatorium Wien. The Vienna Conservatory is already confused with the Konservatorium Wien here in Austria in our real life. So where is the problem to leave the article moved to the English name? Opo Chano (talk) 12:35, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

I asked at Classical music, please go there also. The problem is confusion which happens in translation, when conservatory and academy are used for three different organizations. We should not invent English names, but use names from reliable sources. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:45, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Ok, understood. Opo Chano (talk) 12:50, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Theodora

Hi Gerda - just spent an hour searching for a piece of music I heard a fragment of on the radio û it turned out to be "As with rosy steps the morn". Perhaps I should have asked you first and saved myself some time!

Hope you're well
 pablo 14:08, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

Well, thanks, - thanks for thinking of me, and no, I would not have known. I heard Theodora, second half, because people left who found the church too cold ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Symphonic Prelude (Bruckner)

The DYK project (nominate) 20:59, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Gerda Arendt/Davenbelle

What exactly is User:Gerda Arendt/Davenbelle? Obviously you're not banned. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 17:35, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Obviously that is not my user page. Why do you change other users' pages and ask them questions about them? - In a good mood, I answer that he took my lead image and made an admirable entry: "I'm a new user on Wikipedia. I'm proceeding cautiously, but will carefully consider and comments or criticism that comes my way" which I take care to remember. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:22, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

ps: better redirect a user page to the talk instead of the other way round, because others may want to add to the talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Today's featured article/February 7, 2015

I'd consider it a favor if we could go with "Twelve". The AmEng dictionaries I use all capitalize it (AHD, M-W, Random House), and the BrEng dictionaries (oxforddictionaries.com, SOED), and I think it's important to follow the higher-quality sources. Having said that: I'm not looking to establish a precedent that I get to decide usage because of my hat. I've made a proposal to the other two TFA coords that we look to pull in more volunteers and get more feedback on decisions. But until I can get that going, I think I'll make Bencherlite less nervous if we follow modern usage, and I also think that following the dictionaries is the decision that a group is most likely to settle on, when we start making these decisions as a group. - Dank (push to talk) 01:45, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

I just made one more tweak, adding inline attribution to the quote per WP:INTEXT. - Dank (push to talk) 03:35, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

From the score

It would be my second article where the spelling contradicts the majority of sources used for the article. I am on voluntary 1RR. At least in this case it doesn't contradict Bach ;) Favour enough? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

As for the attribution, it reads a bit as if the complete sentence is "his" (opinion), but it's only the description including "operatic", - no doubt a fact that some elements set the standard. I wonder how to express that there are yearly cycles of Leipzig church cantatas to come, for those who don't know. At least a link? Will work on Thomaskantor, hopefully today, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:08, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks kindly. Added your link, twelve -> Twelve. - Dank (push to talk) 13:44, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Just saw your edit to the "frame" sentence. The more we fiddle with this, the more I become convinced that we'll be better off without that sentence ... it just raises way more questions in readers' minds than it answers, which is one of the main things to avoid in a TFA paragraph. May I delete the sentence? - Dank (push to talk) 15:07, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

It's about a key point of the whole cantata: that the early work has elements of the many (cantatas) and great (Passions) works to come. I expect that even readers who don't know what a cantata is, may have heard that Bach wrote the St Matthew Passion. I am a DYK person, - raising questions that make readers click. Rephrase without the quote? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:54, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

We can't put quoted material on the Main Page without quote marks, Gerda. Can you rephrase in your own words? - Dank (push to talk) 18:57, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Thats what I did, I can't change the terms chorale, recitative and aria, but switched their order and made them plural instead of singular, could say "bible quotation" instead of "bible text", if that helps, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:54, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

I realy don't know

when, just guessing. Adam got the flue. Have to ask him. Hafspajen (talk) 13:48, 21 January 2015 (UTC) But if yours was promoted 9 January - then 4 to 11 would be a god guess. Hafspajen (talk) 13:50, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

I think it should say something like "since the last edition", to be more flexible, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:52, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Fräulein

Hi - I've attempted to add an infobox to our Bezauberndes Fräulein, but it's come out looking pretty basic. Would you be able to take a look and patch up my work - I'm doing quite a few translations and would like to put a sensible infobox onto them! Thanks so much. Cricketgirl (talk) 16:36, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Glad you liked it! I know nothing of the DYK process so I'll leave that to you whenever you have time. :) Getting started on the next translation. Enjoy your evening! Cricketgirl (talk) 18:49, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

We need refs first! I will do the rest then, with pleasure --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:23, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks :) Cricketgirl (talk) 20:55, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Peter Feuchtwanger

Gerda, when you get a chance it would be great if you could translate the German wiki article on the composer and pianist de:Peter Feuchtwanger. Hope you are well. Best.4meter4 (talk) 03:14, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

One happy editor

Dear Gerda, - I want to thank you, so much, for naming me an "awesome Wikipedian" for my work on the Mark Satin biography, and for giving me my day! As you may know, the article was "Today's featured article" on the Main Page that day, and I (with others' help) have had to spend all my Wikipedia time since then digging out from under various malicious edits and inappropriate edits. Receiving the award when I did made these last 10 days much more bearable for me.

I would love to put news of the award on my talk page! I've done so in the text, but I would prefer doing so with a Userbox, particularly if it has that gorgeous blue sapphire on it. Is there one? I'll watch this space for your reply. - Babel41 (talk) 04:21, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

There is a box, further down on the awards list, created by the earlier givers. There is no one with the sapphire, - the square box would not match the designer's ideas. Create something?

This user has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian.

I dropped the "their own day" because that was true only the first year, and I don't like "his or her" anyway ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:19, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, and "their own day" may be too, um, precious to boot. But I love the box above and as you'll see, I simply linked the "Awesome Wikipedian" phrase in it to the PumpkinSky Prize page, which appears to go from 2012 right up to the present. I hope that's not stepping on any toes. - Babel41 (talk) 06:53, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, good idea. I made it an inline link. We'll see about the toes ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:01, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi

I'm so glad to see you still around Gerda, and still promoting kindness and love. Every day you share your gift of life, of music, of thought, of acceptance, of tolerance, and of love. I know you are born of the great country of Germany, and in many ways I share that heritage. I was born and raised in the US; but I thought I might share this with you because the whole idea makes me think of you:

• [1]

— Ched :  ?  05:33, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

my gift to you. — Ched :  ?  05:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

User:Ched
Born	1957 (age 66–67)
Other names	User:Chedzilla

Thank you, Ched. - Is this what you requested? (And what I hesitate to put on your user page, afraid of another round of arb enforcement) - I found no parameter for gender=male in {{infobox person}}.

"This little light of mine" was regularly sung at a Sunday Gospel Brunch, by a gospel group lead by an enormous woman (enormous both in body and spirit), and the restaurant guests, children only in the first verse, - thanks for bringing back lovely memories!

Je suis - I follow the one who quoted "The only real nation is humanity", pictured on top and (because I sometimes change) here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

• Yep - exactly what I wanted. Thank you very much Gerda. I will have a look at articles soon. — Ched :  ?  17:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Hey Ched, where you been? Good to see you. - Dank (push to talk) 17:56, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Response!

Greta: I am delighted to be considered an Awesome Wikipedian. Thank you very much! Pendright (talk) 18:37, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

You're awesome!

	You're awesome!
	In appreciation. Hawkeye7 (talk) 07:22, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the lovely flowers! - Sort of user box above, if you like, - thinking of the missed designer and the photographer, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

WER

Gerda, you'll never get kindness, generosity, forgiveness and compassion from those editors whose participation outside their regular content work appears to be the deliberate antitheses of those qualities. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:42, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Did you follow the links, for two to three levels? kindness, generosity, forgiveness and compassion - I didn't try to get these, - not my idea, I mean. I would be happy with just staying factual, which seems asking too much. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:26, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

OK

OK, glad we agree. DePiep (talk) 23:59, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Not so sure. Responded your talk, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:02, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Mustang dab

Withdrew my proposal to close, didn't realize the vote was going toward keeping it as primary, and parenthetical dab is the worst-case scenario here after we got 400 horse breed articles to natural dab. Montanabw^(talk) 02:30, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

The Non Barnstar

Barnstars are well intended but for my taste they are a little too impersonal; sort of like a store-bought greeting card versus a handwritten letter. So I am taking this opportunity to say that Wikipedia is a better place because you are here. I wish you all the best. PS: Have you ever sung Berg's Altenberg Lieder? I think maybe it is not quite your style of music but I find the pieces hauntingly beautiful, and the words are simple but profound. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 03:53, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the lovely musical note! No, I didn't sing those songs, nor even know them (yet), - I like simple but profound! - Did you know that "you" are mentioned on my user page, sort of? Look for laugh ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:03, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi

Have you ever noticed that sometimes you seem to choose people for recogniztion right around the same time I am considering them for Editor of the Week? I do, and, actually, just saw that someone I've been considering for a few weeks as a nominee, which I held off because of the current backlog already in place, just got in the past week one of your "precious" indicators. Waah. Me go into corner to pout and make my face turn blue to get back at you. ;)

Having vented my spleen in a completely juvenile manner like that, I guess I should say that if for whatever reason you want to nominate someone for the EotW, or second any nomination of someone you might have missed, you are free to do so. John Carter (talk) 16:30, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing my sense of quality ;) (No, I have not noticed, but that I sometimes came shortly after, coincidentally.) - Before Dennis set up the program he asked me, thinking even to convert Precious to the WER prize. I explained that it is my very personal thing, in missing memory of the photographer and the designer, which I would not give to those who are reason for the missing. I also asked to give the EotW to those who did NOT get the other.) - Thank you for your question on ARCA which has been answered in the case already and afterwards (Andy can't add an infobox to an article he creates), tells you all you need to know about the quality of the decision. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

A mixup?

Hi there GA, this is former user A(lways)L(earning),

per this message you sent to this fellow user (please see here User talk:The Almightey Drill#Precious, the sentiments are quite possibly the correct ones, but this chap is not me, I don't have an account anymore since asking it be destroyed after a run-in with a sick troll (upon making such request, I had the intention of leaving forever the site, but guess I can't, I'm "hooked").

Happens to the best, and all the best to you from Portugal --84.90.219.128 (talk) 23:26, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for coming over, I probably misread a talk page, hope you don't mind, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:33, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

No worries, none at all :) --84.90.219.128 (talk) 23:59, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Good to see that co-operation has fixed the problem here :) '''tAD''' (talk) 00:04, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, humbled, but just a normal (hysterical) WPdian, and very tired at that. You keep it up there --84.90.219.128 (talk) 14:33, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for thanks

Hi Gerda,

You thanked me a couple of times for contributions on talk pages; I hardly had thought they deserved thanks, but none the less I appreciated your expression of warmth in what is intrinsically a cold medium, one that rarely warms up except when it becomes prickly as well. Many thanks to you in turn. JonRichfield (talk) 06:31, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for coming over, nice to meet you! I use the button a lot, you described better than I could why. Yesterday was cold, today is Mozart's birthday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:45, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Ohhh Lord! I see what you mean. Well, Wolfgang was better to deal with than certain other people. Look on the bright side; that type is in essence just a transient pattern of dots on a screen. If you can ignore the smell they leave behind them they vanish, and there are better things to remember; Mozart for example! :) JonRichfield (talk) 13:34, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Some assume that Wolfgang Amadé would have been tough to live with, constantly in nervous motion and thinking of music ;) - How would you describe the smell of this? - I try to look at the bright side, that's why I kept "hope" from 2014 on top of this page, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:10, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Bramshill House

Hi Gerda, Wehwalt asked whether there was an article on Munich Gallery, Can you find which it is? It contains some Rubens works I believe. I'd guess Alte Pinakothek Museum?♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:07, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

You guessed right, Alte Pinakothek, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:18, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Again, again, this time in Die tote Stadt

M.B. removed the brand-new and beautiful scene pic from the top and replaced it with Korngolds ugly portrait in the old Korngold box. Help! This man is driving me crazy and insane. I do not know how to create a opera box for the bottom of the page and I'm so upset right now that I better don't do anything on this behave. Sorry to bother you, but I desperately have to calm down. --Meister und Margarita (talk) 22:22, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

I will create the navbox for you, I mean us ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Done, your turn, nite, knight, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:24, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much and lots of love from Vienna (preparing for a huge battle against the fascists tomorrow night, see NOWKR and in German WP: Akademikerball).--Meister und Margarita (talk) 19:53, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Need help?

Gerda, I was re-reading the last couple of days' messages on my talk page, and I was trying to make sense of the back-and-forth between DePiep and Littleolive oil, where you left a couple of cryptic comments. Were you requesting my assistance? If so, can you be more specific? As one of the "Precious," I'd like to help if I can. Let me know. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 01:55, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi Dirtlawyer. I have watched Gerda's page and worked with her in a tiny way for years so saw this message. I can explain from my side and perhaps that will help clear up any difficulties. I mistakenly thought DePiep had commented on a GA review. He hadn't and so I removed my comment. I do believe he was canvassing so did leave that cmt in place. I am not going to engage DePiep on this in anyway. I have nothing further to say or discuss, and don't want to create any ongoing drama about this so will not be commenting further on your talk page or anywhere else for that matter. Hope that helps. Best wishes.(Littleolive oil (talk) 03:44, 28 January 2015 (UTC))

Waking up: I think I said I was helped? It was a different case, though, look at Arbitrary Enforcement or here, a friend been taken to ANI and AE for good cleanup work that some don't like and try what has been described as legalistic language. Example: look at Herr Gott, dich loben wir, follow to the template discusssion that he started and see if you detect "disruption". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Precious

Thankyou for your incredibly kind comments. I am glad my humble offerings have been noticed. Best wishes. Bikeroo (talk) 18:32, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Nicht have article

Goethes Gartenhaus

Hafspajen (talk) 18:59, 29 January 2015 (UTC)https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goethes_Gartenhaus

On my mind, - I even took a better picture, with roses, together with one of Schloss Weimar (court - in gallery). Busy singing, happily so, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:04, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

• Thanks, you are a fairy ! Hafspajen (talk) 22:58, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi

Gerda, I know that you consider Andy to be a friend, and that you were merely trying to be helpful, but this and this are not entirely appropriate, especially as Andy runs about Wikipedia accusing others of "canvassing." If, as you have said on several other occasions, you're not going to get involved in this particular TfD debate, I would suggest that actively lobbying behind the scenes is not appropriate, either. Please consider this a gentle admonition. Regards, Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 14:04, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

I am not lobbying, I am trying to understand my friends Jerome and Poeticbent. Talking to Jerome was my mistake because I "remembered" the wrong name, musically so, same vowels. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:07, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Dirtlawyer1, after errants: Jerome, Precious #40 and Poeticbent, #114, with thanks for this poem. I am also grateful for Martijn's reminder. I am starting the fourth year of Precious today, and I think I told you that you share it with outcasts (while others with great achievements will not get it from me because they helped with the outcasting) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:20, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Alberto Villalpando

Hi, can you proof Alberto Villalpando?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:30, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Between concerts, yes. Please always have {{Authority control}}, - worst case: nothing, best: stuff taken from Wikidata, establishing notability. Of course it can work only if the link to Wikidata is there ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:03, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

hymn & comment counts

Gerda, please stop your WP:POINT edits regarding {{Infobox hymn}} broadly construed ([2] [3] etc.) Please note Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes#Editors reminded (WP:POINT edits are not "maintaining decorum" as required by the remedy.

While I'm here, please stop discussing individual article's infobox inclusions on various pages not directly connected to the article's talk page (e.g. here) as it are "comments in discussing the inclusion or exclusion of an infobox on a given article" per [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Infoboxes#Gerda Arendt restricted. I think I explained this before.

General, as my personal suggestion: please let go of infoboxes partizanship, and if partizanship is too difficult a concept: please let go of what you couldn't accomplish for infoboxes. You're better than this, but that dosn't show in your infoboxes involvement. --Francis Schonken (talk) 12:17, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

I see your point, please see mine. I don't do infoboxes partizanship but believe infoboxes are as valuable information for readers as images are. (Well, I met the view that images are not information but decoration, but don't share it.) You will not change that belief, nor anybody else, and certainly not arbitration. ("Hier stehe ich, ich kann nicht anders.") - I work for a project that supports this view, and edit there freely. I became a member of project freedom of speech for a reason. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:33, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Francis, quit baiting and harassing Gerda. You are misinterpreting her restrictions and causing unneeded drama. She does not have to refrain from listing issues at relevant wikiprojects. You are also being a WP:DICK. Gerda is too nice to say that to you, I'm not so nice and I am sick of you bullying people and editing against consensus. Montanabw^(talk) 19:36, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Dear Gerda,

The infoboxes, which I have put on the pages for Bruckner's motets, are giving an overview on the page. The images, which I have added to the infoboxes, are of course "decoration", but have always something to do with the content op the page (type of motet, why it was composed, etc.). --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:26, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Understand, and that is exactly what I mean by "information", giving a feeling for the time of the article subject. I was talking about I Surrender All and a previous version (which I would prefer). However, I was reverted on the grounds that the image was "needed" further down: "I personally see no reason to have an image in the infobox unless the rest of the article is cluttered with images. Normally articles on something as inanimate and old as a hymn need the image in the body text to relieve the large walls of text." - Needless to say, my view is different. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:50, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Bagatelle No. 25

Hi. I noticed that the Für Elise article was moved recently. I have no experience with moving articles or reverting moves, so I'm reluctant to take action myself, but it looks like there was no discussion on the article talk page and I don't think the move was a good idea. If you have any thoughts on this, I'd appreciate your input greatly. Thanks! ReverendWayne (talk) 01:33, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Sorry to butt in but I have moved it back, pending discussion, per WP:BRD. Best wishes to all DBaK (talk) 10:43, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I've commented there. ReverendWayne (talk) 18:25, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for attention for this music! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:27, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

QPQ was meant for the article I nominated

Hi Gerda! It's always a pleasure to see you around. That was nice of you to volunteer a review for the fellows at Humboldtian education ideal but I had specifically asked the nominators to review my humble nomination, which still needs another reviewer to pass it. Prhartcom (talk) 04:53, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Those two things should be independent ;) - look above, Hope is the first word! (I have donated extra reviews before, it was accepted, as the only purpose is to get rid up the backlog.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

I am quite willing to do the other review also and looked: I don't see why it would need another reviewer. I nothing happens within two weeks I will look again. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:48, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Re: TFA

Thank you very much! Please feel free to sign my autograph book. I invite people who I've had good wiki-experiences with to sign it. :D — Hunter Kahn 12:52, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Francisco D'Andrade

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations

Recent research has revealed you to be one of the kindest editors. (Citation to follow.) All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:52, 6 February 2015 (UTC).

The toxic personality thanks you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Here is the citation. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:11, 8 February 2015 (UTC).

Thank you

	Paladin of Hampshire County Historic Places
	Gerda Arendt, it is my sincere pleasure to hereby name you a Paladin of Hampshire County Historic Places for your thoughtful hook suggestion and review of Capon Chapel for DYK. Through your efforts, another Hampshire County historic landmark will be represented on Wikipedia's main page. Thanks again! Caponer (talk) 04:28, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Capon Chapel

Hi, Gerda, in Template:Did you know nominations/Capon Chapel, it probably looked like I was responding to you because I said "I generally think it's preferable to have the bold link early in a hook", and you had earlier expressed a similar sentiment. But in fact, I had not looked at anything other than ALT3. If I had, I would not have suggested ALT3a, which I see now was almost the same as the original hook, which you had objected to (and the nominator agreed) because the bold link came too late. Anyways, now that I've seen those comments, I've edited the hook in Prep 6 to address your concern, while still making it read "smoother" than ALT3 per my concern. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:41, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

All fine, thanks ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:56, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Thomaskantor

Harrias ^talk 00:01, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

A Bach featured day is always a good day... Congrats on BWV22 feature..

		The Music Barnstar
		A Bach featured day is always a good day... Congrats on the BWV22 front page.. SageGreenRider (talk) 02:56, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations! --Mkativerata (talk) 03:13, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for listening to the passionate scena ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Great work, Gerda. I have in my hands Bärenreiter's Urtext of Bach's cantatas, part 3. There's a photo of a page from the manuscript. Would it be useful to upload scan to commons? It should be in PD, I guess. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 13:20, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that would be nice. I am no expert on image right. Next to come: O heilges Geist- und Wasserbad, BWV 165, in case you can add to that also, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:26, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

I've uploaded the first page of the manuscript, by Johann Andreas Kuhnau, Bach's copyist in Leipzig, but the quality is terrible, and I don't know why. I asked for deletion on Commons :( There's another page from the manuscript in my source, by Bach himself (end of the 1st part + beginning of the 2nd (Aria for alto, oboe and cello/continuo)). The complete manuscript is not preserved, according to the source. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 16:17, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Will use the other pic later (needs rearranging, #1 made lead, church and other churches to gallery, #2 about where #1 is now), probably after singing _ Te -e _ De -um ;)

It's up to you - you are better informed and this is your work. Good luck with the performance :) --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 08:01, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Wait.. Jenkins ... Jenkins - isn't Jenkins the composer who done music for the airlines commercial with jumping dolphins? :D --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 11:49, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there are no images or notes related to BWV 165 in Die Neue Bach-Ausgabe (NBA). The cantate is in the part 6 of the urtext. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 16:29, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Nicely done! Congrats! :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 13:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Indeed, a hearty congrats!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:57, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Bezauberndes Fräulein

Harrias ^talk 14:43, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Gender stuff

During the GGTF case, I advised Arbcom to site-ban no one. My advice wasn't taken & as a result, the shockwaves continue to spread :( GoodDay (talk) 21:29, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

In the infoboxes case, I spoke against no one, my advice wasn't taken & as a result, we still try to "clarify" kafkaesque restrictions. My friend was almost banned. Why? Evidence? He had been banned twice before, that's enough, see also. - I just learned the term shero, from a new user ;) - Did you see that the first word given to me was Hope? (kept from 2014, much needed) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Bruckner and chorale

Dear Gerda,

I have added refs about use of Chorale in Bruckner's motets (example: "Dir, Herr, ...), in other compositions (example: "Two Aequali", and with fugue in Symphony No. 5.

OK so? --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 11:41, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

No time to look, concert ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:22, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Now I looked and reworded a bit. How about a paragraph in his list of compositions each on symphonies and masses, to link to? I don't find a mere category helpful, sorry ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:28, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

I could indeed create an overview page Masses (Bruckner). In this new page I could, as I did for the motets, integrate in a first section "Windhaag and Kronstorf" the existing page Bruckner's early Masses, in a second section "Sankt Florian" an overview of the Requiem and the Missa solemnis, and in a third section "Linz" an overview of the three "mature" Masses No. 1, No. 2 and No. 3.

In the main article Anton Bruckner, there is in the section "Compositions" already a detailed paragraph "Symphonies". Should I shorten it (as kind of lead) and transfer most of its content to an overview page Symphonies (Bruckner)?

Please advise. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 15:59, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

I like the masses approach, but would leave the symphonies in the biography as something every reader of it should see. I make a redirect. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:25, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Done, and - having looked closer - I think to create an article with all these details on the symphonies would be a good idea, leaving just the basics for the readers of the bio, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:37, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

The "masses approach" will be quite easy. I will rename the page Bruckner's early Masses to Masses (Bruckner), write a lead, put the current content in a section "Windhaag and Kronstorf", add in a section "Sankt Florian" an overview of the Requiem and the Missa solemnis, and in a section "Linz" an overview of the three "mature" Masses No. 1, No. 2 and No. 3..

The "symphony approach" will be somewhat less easy. I will first think about a "basic text" to leave in the bio and, after some restructuring of the current text, transfer it in the page Symphonies (Bruckner). --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 22:11, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Bruckner's early Masses moved to overview page Masses (Bruckner) and expanded to the other masses. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:26, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

A good start! Can you have in the lead that his three numbered masses are the most advanced and elaborate compositions, with a link to every single one, rather than their keys? I personally don't like a plural of requiem ;) - Preparing to sing once more in our locus iste tonight, and listen to Palladio, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:07, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I have changed it as you suggested. Do you have other suggestions for improvement? --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:29, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Will look tomorrow, will "make music, music, music" (from movement 4 of Jenkins' Gloria) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:31, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Comma

Sorry to make you explain something about the comma that I know well. (I'm a amateur singer, violist, and recorder player if you ever need me for anything.) All the best,John Foxe (talk) 20:12, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for looking only at my notifications without checking the article history ;) - I would love to employ you as a musician, - just returned from singing inspiring music, - I am member of a cabal, did you know? Perhaps that is for you and your qualities ;) - (Yes, page stalker, that means you also.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:12, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for those kind words.--John Foxe (talk) 14:49, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

just passing by

		The Huge Heart barnstar.
		For all the kindness that you show to your fellow editors, User:Ched would like to offer you this.

Thank you so much! My heart beats faster, and was already high by yesterday's "Te tetete - Deum te tetete - Deum ...", to be repeated tomorrow! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:18, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Just passing by II

Jenkins has flashy moustache. Hafspajen (talk) 12:20, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

the blue stone

Dear Gerda, Thankyou for the anniversary message and the fanfare (that's a good article) - the stone, like the music, has a seraphic clarity and spiritual warmth. Just what one needs in these cruel months of the year. I have been reading the psalms in Latin, with St Augustine's comments, and am amazed. Also Jeremy Irons's Four Quartets (Eliot) (Radio 4 broadcast) is still reverberating - that dude is right on the vibe. So we are rather off in our own world, and loving it! ;) kind regards Eebahgum (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

thank you - reverberating Halelu-hu ... - from Jenkin's Gloria ... loving it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Hoffmann @ Neukirche

Hi Gerda. I didn't find all that much. New Grove says he succeeded Telemann in June of 1705 as both music director and organist. It does not say when or if his appointment concluded before his demise. Sorry. Do you want citation details? 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 18:17, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, please, just add to article, it's a reliable source and better than nothing or German, for DYK, - had to nominate today, last day ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:23, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

 Done 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 18:44, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

August Hartel

Hallo, care to proof and expand?♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:37, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

I had planned to do him from scratch, and actually that would have been easier ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:00, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Arthur Phillips (musician)

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:12, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Invisible rail

thanks for that, I like the suggestion of having the sage picture as a spot-the-bird Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:29, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

What does the text say?

File:Parish church Maria-Anzbach - pilgrimage painting

--Hafspajen (talk) 17:24, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

"Zu schuldigster Danksagung wegen gnädigst abgewendeter Pestseuche ..." - "for most due saying of thanks because of most mercifully ?? (taken away, withdrawn, turned away??) plague ...".

Different topic: I am looking for an image to go with Gloria (Jenkins), Psalm 150 in Hebrew, instruments and dancing, art of 21st century? Could also illustrate angels of annunciation or peace on earth - the most difficult thing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:57, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

What type of image you are looking for? Hafspajen (talk) 19:19, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Like... classic? Landscape, paradise, dance? Hafspajen (talk) 19:59, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

repeating: 21st century art, simple, dance and/or instruments and/or angels annunciation ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:07, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

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• 21st century art is not free... it will be problem with copyright. Hafspajen (talk) 20:54, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

what I found

• Thank you for digging!! See the problem. Critic spoke about jazzy and celtic elements, archaic, primitive, - we talk shofar not trumpet, - all above are too beautiful for this purpose ;) - but will keep them in mind for other purposes. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:12, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Well, the one to the right is just as good as well... - the one you found. Hafspajen (talk) 04:19, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Hi Gerda - any thoughts about "Picking up More Women"?

My proposed Wikimania talk "How To Pick Up More Women" is here. I've been creating quite a few bios as a bi product of this work and I know that are trying to row in the same direction. I was hoping that you might give this some thought? No rush ... no ideas? Thanks for listening Victuallers (talk)

Random Cookie Passing By

BigBryan0 has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. You can spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

Just a random cookie just for you! Enjoy!

To spread the goodness of cookies, you can add {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}!

Thank you, but I randomly disagree. To improve love here, people need to stop thinking of others as "incredibly toxic personalities", stop reverting good faith efforts (today), stop using the term "aggressive" when talking about fellow editors, - Peace is high up on my list (see my user page or here, yes, today), but not cookie love. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:45, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

Happy Valentine's Day!

"Something more divine"!

A little Bach something for you. Or.... if you are feeling more divine ..., some other Bach. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:14, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Did you get my flower on top, image from my garden, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:13, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

But of course. It's what drew me in!! A stunning flower. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:46, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

And I thought you were drawn in by improvements of love (see above) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Ah, yes, those too, of course! Martinevans123 (talk) 13:59, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Do you like Chopin? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:02, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

A genius, of course. And very approriate for today. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:06, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Do you think a revert (in the name of "politeness") is appropriate today? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:22, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

A rather cryptic question there, Gerda. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:28, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

I learned cryptic links from you. Where does Chopin take you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:37, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Ah, no! More box wars alas! Martinevans123 (talk) 14:44, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

... Chopin - a man of many emotions - appropriate today - how many times do you think the infobox has been reverted the last few days, on top of last year? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:49, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Quite a few, I guess. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:58, 14 February 2015 (UTC) ... poor Freddy, he looks so glum.

Chopin

Hi Gerda, I just looked the Frédéric Chopin article with the infobox in place. Surely you agree telling our readers he was less than a centimeter tall is … well … wrong? Anyway, I've linked this FoF on Smerus' page. That's where "polite" comes from. Certainly has nothing to do with being a woman. Victoria (tk) 15:09, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

I responded on Smerus' page, please also read right above. - My suggestion for an infobox is archived, - I would not mention height at all, but you don't have to revert an infobox completely just because you don't agree with the use of a parameter or its content. - Did you miss the word "sarcasm", perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:27, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Valentine Greets!!!

Valentine Greets!!!

Hello Gerda Arendt, love is the language of hearts and is the feeling that joins two souls and brings two hearts together in a bond. Taking love to the level of Wikipedia, spread the WikiLove by wishing each other Happy Valentine's Day, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you a heartfelt and warm love on the eve, Happy editing, Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 22:26, 14 February 2015 (UTC) Hafspajen (talk) 07:35, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, but please look above about missing love ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:29, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

I did not spot that at first ... but we still share something special :) Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 22:34, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Sure, the flower on top is also for you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:36, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Vielen Dank, Lieber ;) Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 22:38, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Precious

You are too kind, and I too undeserving. Thank you very much.

Keep up the good work, and happy editing! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 09:07, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

You are deserving, Latin-speaking gnome ("civis Florentiae ... scribo hunc testamentum"), Lo dicono a Signa (pictured), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:09, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Always watching

There's a few things I don't know.

Like how you know what to watch, or where.

But there's one thing I do know. If you didn't exist we'd be poorer. Much poorer.

Thanks Gerda. (everyone else can wonder, or work it out, or ask, or fail to care...).

You're still awesome. That makes me smile. And it always will. Take care.

Begoon ^talk 13:20, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

I am close to 20k pages on my watchlist, easy answer: the precious and the banned and especially those who are both. - Thanks for placing me in the cat with no permission to remove, - I would have removed ;) - --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:43, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

I know you would have. That's why I told you that you couldn't. Begoon ^talk 04:27, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Giuseppina Brambilla

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:21, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Gerda!

Heartfelt thanks for your gracious note!

I suppose that another way to comment about the "curtains" argument would be to say: "Curtains conceal, infoboxes reveal."

Orwell does indeed offer a number of good recommendations for writing, which I try to keep in mind when I write and edit.

As one contributes to Wikipedia, one hopes that someone, somewhere will understand what one has written and will perhaps find it useful.

It was gratifying to hear from you.

I'll look for your work.

Thank you. Nihil novi (talk) 04:08, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you - I will remember and quote "Curtains conceal, infoboxes reveal." and give credit to you - for good news in an indifferent universe ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Emma Adler

Hi. Emma Adler may interest you. If you're busy with other things, no worries. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:22, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, interesting, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Kind thanks

Thanks very much for your kind note. I may need your help as a favour now. The wikipedian 'Ilovelifeandmusic' is starting an edit war to my rewrite of the Ji Liu (pianist) page, because that person clearly has no concept of how to write a proper wikipedia article. I don't know if we can do anything to protect the page, or to make that person see reason. (Also, I would be curious to your opinion as to this other budding edit war, as an aside.) Cheers, DJRafe (talk) 07:35, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Will look, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

The Non Barnstar

Barnstars are well intended but for my taste they are a little too impersonal; sort of like a store-bought greeting card versus a handwritten letter. So I am taking this opportunity to say that Wikipedia is a better place because you are here. I wish you all the best. PS: Have you ever sung Berg's Altenberg Lieder? I think maybe it is not quite your style of music but I find the pieces hauntingly beautiful, and the words are simple but profound. Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 03:53, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the lovely musical note! No, I didn't sing those songs, nor even know them (yet), - I like simple but profound! - Did you know that "you" are mentioned on my user page, sort of? Look for laugh ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:03, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi

Have you ever noticed that sometimes you seem to choose people for recogniztion right around the same time I am considering them for Editor of the Week? I do, and, actually, just saw that someone I've been considering for a few weeks as a nominee, which I held off because of the current backlog already in place, just got in the past week one of your "precious" indicators. Waah. Me go into corner to pout and make my face turn blue to get back at you. ;)

Having vented my spleen in a completely juvenile manner like that, I guess I should say that if for whatever reason you want to nominate someone for the EotW, or second any nomination of someone you might have missed, you are free to do so. John Carter (talk) 16:30, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for sharing my sense of quality ;) (No, I have not noticed, but that I sometimes came shortly after, coincidentally.) - Before Dennis set up the program he asked me, thinking even to convert Precious to the WER prize. I explained that it is my very personal thing, in missing memory of the photographer and the designer, which I would not give to those who are reason for the missing. I also asked to give the EotW to those who did NOT get the other.) - Thank you for your question on ARCA which has been answered in the case already and afterwards (Andy can't add an infobox to an article he creates), tells you all you need to know about the quality of the decision. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi

Gerda, I know that you consider Andy to be a friend, and that you were merely trying to be helpful, but this and this are not entirely appropriate, especially as Andy runs about Wikipedia accusing others of "canvassing." If, as you have said on several other occasions, you're not going to get involved in this particular TfD debate, I would suggest that actively lobbying behind the scenes is not appropriate, either. Please consider this a gentle admonition. Regards, Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 14:04, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

I am not lobbying, I am trying to understand my friends Jerome and Poeticbent. Talking to Jerome was my mistake because I "remembered" the wrong name, musically so, same vowels. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:07, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Dirtlawyer1, after errants: Jerome, Precious #40 and Poeticbent, #114, with thanks for this poem. I am also grateful for Martijn's reminder. I am starting the fourth year of Precious today, and I think I told you that you share it with outcasts (while others with great achievements will not get it from me because they helped with the outcasting) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:20, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations

Recent research has revealed you to be one of the kindest editors. (Citation to follow.) All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:52, 6 February 2015 (UTC).

The toxic personality thanks you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

Here is the citation. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:11, 8 February 2015 (UTC).

DYK for Thomaskantor

Harrias ^talk 00:01, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

A Bach featured day is always a good day... Congrats on BWV22 feature..

		The Music Barnstar
		A Bach featured day is always a good day... Congrats on the BWV22 front page.. SageGreenRider (talk) 02:56, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations! --Mkativerata (talk) 03:13, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for listening to the passionate scena ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Great work, Gerda. I have in my hands Bärenreiter's Urtext of Bach's cantatas, part 3. There's a photo of a page from the manuscript. Would it be useful to upload scan to commons? It should be in PD, I guess. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 13:20, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that would be nice. I am no expert on image right. Next to come: O heilges Geist- und Wasserbad, BWV 165, in case you can add to that also, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:26, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

I've uploaded the first page of the manuscript, by Johann Andreas Kuhnau, Bach's copyist in Leipzig, but the quality is terrible, and I don't know why. I asked for deletion on Commons :( There's another page from the manuscript in my source, by Bach himself (end of the 1st part + beginning of the 2nd (Aria for alto, oboe and cello/continuo)). The complete manuscript is not preserved, according to the source. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 16:17, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Will use the other pic later (needs rearranging, #1 made lead, church and other churches to gallery, #2 about where #1 is now), probably after singing _ Te -e _ De -um ;)

It's up to you - you are better informed and this is your work. Good luck with the performance :) --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 08:01, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Wait.. Jenkins ... Jenkins - isn't Jenkins the composer who done music for the airlines commercial with jumping dolphins? :D --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 11:49, 8 February 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there are no images or notes related to BWV 165 in Die Neue Bach-Ausgabe (NBA). The cantate is in the part 6 of the urtext. --Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 16:29, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Nicely done! Congrats! :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 13:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Indeed, a hearty congrats!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:57, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Gender stuff

During the GGTF case, I advised Arbcom to site-ban no one. My advice wasn't taken & as a result, the shockwaves continue to spread :( GoodDay (talk) 21:29, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

In the infoboxes case, I spoke against no one, my advice wasn't taken & as a result, we still try to "clarify" kafkaesque restrictions. My friend was almost banned. Why? Evidence? He had been banned twice before, that's enough, see also. - I just learned the term shero, from a new user ;) - Did you see that the first word given to me was Hope? (kept from 2014, much needed) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:41, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

The Ripple effect continues, as you may have noticed in the last few hours. GoodDay (talk) 19:44, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

I was away for those hours, which was probably good for my nerves. Meaningless, not creating content ... - look for "mess" on my user page, and the date ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:59, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

the blue stone

Dear Gerda, Thankyou for the anniversary message and the fanfare (that's a good article) - the stone, like the music, has a seraphic clarity and spiritual warmth. Just what one needs in these cruel months of the year. I have been reading the psalms in Latin, with St Augustine's comments, and am amazed. Also Jeremy Irons's Four Quartets (Eliot) (Radio 4 broadcast) is still reverberating - that dude is right on the vibe. So we are rather off in our own world, and loving it! ;) kind regards Eebahgum (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

thank you - reverberating Halelu-hu ... - from Jenkin's Gloria ... loving it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

Always watching

There's a few things I don't know.

Like how you know what to watch, or where.

But there's one thing I do know. If you didn't exist we'd be poorer. Much poorer.

Thanks Gerda. (everyone else can wonder, or work it out, or ask, or fail to care...).

You're still awesome. That makes me smile. And it always will. Take care.

Begoon ^talk 13:20, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

I am close to 20k pages on my watchlist, easy answer: the precious and the banned and especially those who are both. - Thanks for placing me in the cat with no permission to remove, - I would have removed ;) - --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:43, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

I know you would have. That's why I told you that you couldn't. Begoon ^talk 04:27, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Gerda!

Heartfelt thanks for your gracious note!

I suppose that another way to comment about the "curtains" argument would be to say: "Curtains conceal, infoboxes reveal."

Orwell does indeed offer a number of good recommendations for writing, which I try to keep in mind when I write and edit.

As one contributes to Wikipedia, one hopes that someone, somewhere will understand what one has written and will perhaps find it useful.

It was gratifying to hear from you.

I'll look for your work.

Thank you. Nihil novi (talk) 04:08, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you - I will remember and quote "Curtains conceal, infoboxes reveal." and give credit to you - for good news in an indifferent universe ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:36, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Emma Adler

Hi. Emma Adler may interest you. If you're busy with other things, no worries. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:22, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, interesting, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:58, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Kind thanks

Thanks very much for your kind note. I may need your help as a favour now. The wikipedian 'Ilovelifeandmusic' is starting an edit war to my rewrite of the Ji Liu (pianist) page, because that person clearly has no concept of how to write a proper wikipedia article. I don't know if we can do anything to protect the page, or to make that person see reason. (Also, I would be curious to your opinion as to this other budding edit war, as an aside.) Cheers, DJRafe (talk) 07:35, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Will look, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:58, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I do NOT understand the fact that DJRafe's concern and claim regarding my re-edit on the article of the Ji Liu (pianist) page. As far as my concern, DJRafe's articles by himself on classical musicians always lack of proper references - and the way he did delete Ji Liu's new album Piano Encores released in 2015 from 2015 in classical music page (where he noted that Ji Liu's album which is Piano Reflections, rather than the new Piano Encores had appeared on 2014 in classical music page, clearly showed his careless and lack of responsibility on editing this artist's page), already showed that he might have some discriminations and bias on this particular artist. And the way he re-wrote this artist's page is using snobby attitude towards this artist.

If one would criticize the "wrong format" of Ji Liu (pianist)'s page, then DJRafe should have the same problem of many musicians page such as https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Lang_Lang_(pianist), https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Yuja_Wang which is full with " puffery & extraneous laundry-list text; text cleanup to remove redundant passsages" as DJRafe claimed.

I would not accept the re-write of DJRafe, despite of the time he had put on to this particular article. Unless he would be able to rewrite those others' pages which share similar "issues" that DJRafe concerns.

From Ilovelifeandmusic — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilovelifeandmusic (talk • contribs) 21:30, 19 February 2015‎

You don't have to post here what you posted correctly on the article talk page where I replied. Please sign your comments, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:16, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Geh aus, mein Herz, und suche Freud

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:02, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you-Odythal (talk) 13:42, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

A poignant story

Hi Gerda! When I was working on the Kullervo synopsis, I saw a red link on the conductor, Ulf Söderblom, and decided to turn it blue. But that led me to a red-linked opera premiere that he had conducted, Det sjungande trädet. So I decided to turn that blue. Then I noticed that the tenor who sang in the world premiere of Det sjungande trädet was a red link. And well... you get the picture. Anyhow, the the story of the tenor had a very poignant ending. See the penultimate paragraph of the "Life and career" section of Peter Lindroos. On a much happier note, thank you for the lovely sapphire and kind thoughts. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 08:09, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for sharing. I know the movement from red link to another, from cantata to singers and the church of many names, also a poignant story, prison and bombed. - I like Chopin! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

The singing tree, - what a great title! Please add two more characters to make it DYK worthy ;) - Did you notice that in my song of seeking joy, Gerhardt words "daß ich dir werd ein guter Baum" (that I become a good tree for you)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:06, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for St. Matthew, Leipzig

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:17, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

"Summer hymn"?

What is a "summer hymn"? Nihil novi (talk) 20:42, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Sung in summer? Like Christmas carol sung for Christmas, evening hymn sung in the evening. If you have a better term, go ahead. The description of nature is in summer: flowers and harvest. German: "geistliches Sommerlied", literally: spiritual (or sacred) summer song. (I combined "geistliches Lied" to hymn.) Swedish: "högsommarpsalm", literally "high summer psalm". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Palladio (Jenkins)

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

recommend to use Template:Lang generously

You were so generous to me that I thought I'd try and understand what this was all about for you. But I think I may be failing. As we get older the little grey cells get more set in their old familiar tramlines, and I don't think my tramlines have yet stretched to understanding all these {{}}s (ach, I remember, they're called templates), even though I regularly use one or two anyway where I see the point. I know you linked me to pages somewhere that include (a long way down) something headed "rationale". Even so....

Please can you check out Karl-Hermann Steinberg and tell me if you think I used the lang/de thing appropriately? The guy has a German name and some of the things he did may need the odd ü or ß. But by entering the template, have I somehow induced some people's software programmes to spell check or index the entire text in German instead of English (mine) or indeed English (yours)? If yes, should I wish to do this? If no ... I think I'm still missing the answer to the underlying question "why".

Sorry if I'm being dim and sorry if you hadn't planned for me to quiz you on this, but one thing we do learn from wikipedia is that each of us operates on the basis of a whole lot of disparate and distinctive thought patterns and underlying assumptions. We seldom notice or even acknowledge to ourselves all the aspects of those thought-structures, and that for each of us those structures are different configured and prioritis/zed. So that which is blindingly obvious for you is deeply obscure to me. And presumably vice versa. Even though I think you and I may, broadly speaking, inhabit the same intellectual/mental planet in respect of lots of things that matter (and doubtless in respect of many that do not) I'm not sure that extends to the rationale for Template:Lang.

As for "data-scraping", I hope you will agree that I shouldn't need to know, least of all at lunch time.

No rush. Happy Sunday & regards. Charles01 (talk) 11:56, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

No problem, always feel free to ask, - if I have no time I will say so, and page watchers may chime in. Trying: the template is meant to help people who use a screenreader. If the device is alerted to a different language, it uses different pronunciation. It has nothing to do with German or other letters (or any other spelling) and is normally not applied to names of people. I haven't looked yet at the article, but will. English: I learned a mix of British (at school in Germany) and US (when living there), therefore I am often not consistent and appreciate corrections. - Sorry, I have no idea what "data-scraping" refers to. - My Sunday was already made happy by this (little miracle of helping without knowing), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:33, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Camille Saint-Saëns

Your nice "thanking" message has just flashed up on my screen. Can I interest you in a peer review of Camille Saint-Saëns? I'm hoping to get the old boy up to FA standard, and comments at PR will be greatly appreciated, if you have time and inclination. – Tim riley talk 17:03, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

I am #3 in thank-you-clicks, did you know (see further up)? Also about the healing power of music (just above)? - Will look eventually. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:07, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Can you please

look at User:CGASGPT/sandbox? I think I might have been too harsh on them. —George8211 / T 21:51, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps. As long as it's in the sandbox, no harm, I would say. Talk to the user about notability, formatting and refs? - My first article was speedily deleted within minutes, - I know how it feels ;) - It went to DYK in a few weeks, first of many, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

I would but I'm in a bit of a hurry to clear up and be able to move back to meatspace. —George8211 / T 22:06, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Kindly!

Dear Gerda, thank you for the message! I will see that the article is posted before listing. Many thanks! LisaAdamsWalter (talk) 23:46, 22 February 2015 (UTC)

Gloria (1974), by English composer John Rutter

Gloria (1974), by English composer John Rutter Contemporary choral music composition. Do you know it? Prhartcom (talk) 00:29, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Gloria, yes, sung with great pleasure in the church here, unfortunately with a group not notable enough ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:48, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

ps: can't believe that it's only a redirect, - will keep in mind, - no Gloria in Lent ;) - compare Magnificat, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:50, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

You do not disappoint me at all, dear Gerda; wonderful to hear that this was your experience, and that you came to my country to do it! Mine is only to hear a group do it live twenty years ago then remember it yesterday and put the CD on (several times) and then to wonder if you knew only Bach (no indeed, I learn). Yes, I will now listen to his other masterpiece; thanks for the reminder. I was just reading on Wikipedia what happened to the poor man. Yes, I also noticed the redirect and am also keeping in mind. Cheers. Prhartcom (talk) 12:43, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

He was quite lively in a workshop of his Magnificat in Limburg when I sang in a more notable group (conducting his 5 childhood lyrics and then saying "I almost forgot I composed those."), and sent cordial greeting for our German premiere of his Mass of the Children in 2004 with yet another group, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:55, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Amazing. You have sung with many groups and have met John Rutter. Prhartcom (talk) 13:17, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

He's on first name terms with our conductor, - I am on Wikipedia because they keep track of my memories, DYK? ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:21, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Lead image belongs in infobox, not above

In Jesus Christus, unser Heiland, der von uns den Gotteszorn wandt, I was reverted twice by Francis Schonken who placed the lead image outside and above the infobox (because a PDF writer doesn't print the image from the infobox). I would like a public discussion because the talk of a stub article created yesterday seems not the right place to discuss a question that would relate to millions of articles. Project infobox, or the village pump? Previous discussions of the matter were on on Talk:Vom Himmel hoch, da komm ich her, with answers from Montanabw ("It looks beyond weird to have an image above an infobox, that's not the proper formatting at all.") and Bgwhite ("There should be no images above the infobox. Not only does this look weird, but it goes against MOS."), and on WT:QAI where Boson and RexxS responded. Help? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:38, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

After Bgwhite fixed that, Francis reverted me in a different after bringing in a second image in large size. I choose (almost always) to have standard image size, he likes large readable images. I believe that this is an editorial choice I would like to make for articles for which I stand, while I don't interfer with those he creates, such as Jesus Christus, unser Heiland, der den Tod überwand. (I would have added a second image - and this one is not truly a second, just the same with more text - only after the article got more substantial anyway.) Opinions? On the article talk, please, and thanks to Andy for fixing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:59, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Until someone can make the "upright" parameter work in infoboxes, forced sizes are a bad idea; preferences can be changed on different platforms and a fixed size can wind up looking really odd. Montanabw^(talk) 14:16, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

With no infobox of course you wouldn't have that problem ;-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:46, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, you didn't look, just reacted to a word ;) - The infobox was no problem, - to take the image out and above was one, to add a very similar image with a fixed size was two. If you look at the article now, that extra-large image gave way to three others about the music. - Did you know that by a little hint from a friend a now see all infoboxes with round corners? Beautiful! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:35, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

I take this opportunity to thank all those who don't like the infoboxes in my articles but don't revert them, reporting happily that all are in place which I installed in 2014. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:26, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Would someone please restore the lead image to the infobox, again. I don't do more than one revert. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I even see infoboxes in my sleep hehe!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:02, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't. I see a good lead image in an article I created and want it to stay there. Was reverted three times by now, this time in superlarge size way below. I want the small one back in the box for the first glance readers, would not mind a slight duplication. (Discussion on the talk.) You could bring it back, if you love me as much as you said ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:09, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I just requested one myself! :-) [4] I think they're really needed in settlements because of the pin maps though! I agree that the infobox looks much better with the image in it, but I just know that Francis Schonken will revert me...♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:12, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Not so sure, I believe that he can count to 3, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:20, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

He's also made some edits. Are they good or bad? Should I just clean revert to your version?♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:24, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Just get the image back. I don't like extralarge images but sowhat, also I can deal with it myself. A second revert I will not make ;) - You could engage him in a talk on the article talk. He doesn't want it his talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:29, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

What about the big image? Remove that? If I add it to the infobox it'll be a duplicate.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:24, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Add the small to the infobox, leave the big, - it's not exactly the same. (I just did that (yes, I know, should not, exploded ...), was reverted the same minute, would be interested in what's next. See talk - and its history.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Was about to add one and I see we now have it  :-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:33, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, after the 5th revert, and now the article is protected ;) - You can voice on the talk if you think a header may mention "music". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:36, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

O heilges Geist- und Wasserbad, BWV 165

Hi Gerda. I'm leaving a note here to let you know that I've reviewed your GA nomination, and I have a few minor concerns before passing it. I thoroughly enjoyed learning a bit more about this subject!-RHM22 (talk) 22:30, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Original and best :) In ictu oculi (talk) 04:10, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Joy! said --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:09, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Kullervo (Sallinen)

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:02, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of O heilges Geist- und Wasserbad, BWV 165

The article O heilges Geist- und Wasserbad, BWV 165 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:O heilges Geist- und Wasserbad, BWV 165 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of RHM22 -- RHM22 (talk) 14:21, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, RHM22, for a very constructive and fast review! I will recommend you. In case you look for more work, there's Haydn quartets (not by me). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:35, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I'm glad to help. I know how long GANs can take to get done. I'll take a look at that one as well, a bit later today when I have a few minutes free. It looks nice at first glance.-RHM22 (talk) 15:11, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I thought the same, did the DYK review and added a pic (of homage) which actually made it to the Main page! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:16, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Ah yes, I remember seeing that DYK. By the way, I just noticed that the author of that article is relatively new. You've done good work in being encouraging to him/her. At a time when almost anything can become controversial (staying away from Muhammed and Danzig no longer guarantees safety), gathering and maintaining new quality editors is paramount. The assistance provided to me by Wehwalt in my early days here cannot be overstated, and I'm sure that I wouldn't be editing today had he not helped me navigate the learning curve. (Needless to say [but saying it just in case], I don't take it easy on anyone when doing GA, FA or DYK reviews, even if they're new.)-RHM22 (talk) 22:11, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Meine Schwester und ich

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:02, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Hi

Warior Within 09:29, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Sry fr my mistake. nw I realise tat it really wrong. it make page empty. so. thank u nd sry fr tat. i could make gud y gving u a cookie.. Sry. See ya.. Warior Within 13:55, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Like that, yumyum, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:00, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Your Wiki-room Delivery

Hafspajen (talk) 23:54, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Lovely! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:56, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Hafspajen, I said lovely!! Do you listen to me? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you. Glad you liked Sigi Ziering's page. I wish we could find a copyright-free picture and expand the page a bit more. I also create his widow's page, Marilyn Ziering. The whole family seem like very good people indeed!Zigzig20s (talk) 10:53, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Interesting! As she married him before she graduated you could mention her by last name, - should be at least once at the beginning of each paragraph. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:01, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Der Ring des Nibelungen

Hi Gerda. Thanks for reverting that mess. Apart from everything else it was blatant copyvio pasted verbatim from here, right down to Click here for some definitions of "opera" Back to Index of Wagner's Ring. I've put it on my watchlist, in case in happens again. Voceditenore (talk) 17:46, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! I don't take removals of "my" image easily ;) - of the woman who can't believe what she sees, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:43, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

March and women's history

Just wondering. I am still wading through the roughly 1200+ works of general biography in the most recent online Guide to Reference, and like I always do I am finding additional basis for multiple listings as I go on. One of the things I have found is that there are a rather notable number of those reference sources which specifically discuss biographical material of women in general or in particular fields. I'm going to go through the ones I've already gone through once again and add any relevant ones to the Bibliography of encyclopedias: general biographies#Women section. Granted, they won't list which women are discussed in them, but finding them listed in a more readily accessible way might make it easier for some to find notable topics to develop. John Carter (talk) 17:53, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Good idea, but I have some plans for the next future, and if time is left in March have sum women stubs to expand from a year ago, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:42, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

I think I found about 100 or so which fit in that particular section. Granted, I will probably myself not be taking part much in the month, because of other efforts regarding the reference work lists and proofreading some reference sources at wikisource, but if you know anyone who is the list might be helpful. John Carter (talk) 18:44, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

How about Rosiestep, where I left my welcome, see just below, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:08, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Your slogan

"Welcome Women" .. very nice - I like that a lot. (and thank you for the kind compliment) — Ched :  ?  12:40, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Welcome! ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:44, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

I woke up,

fell out of bed and didn’t even drag a comb across my head, but instead, headed for my computer and wikipedia. You can not imagine (as if I really know anything about your imagination) how good it felt to receive your note and gem. Last night a brother and I had been trying to track down a star sapphire ring of my mother’s and although we were not successful finding that, yours on my desktop this a.m. seems . . …. significant. Your summation of my wikipedia career was impressive and insightful and yes, I will miss TParis. I also realize that looking at your user page almost prompted me to launch into my life story, but I won’t. Thank you again for your jewel, Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 19:26, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

I think I can imagine because I still remember the feeling when I was honoured, - you saw it on my user page. My life stories - well, the notable parts - are linked from "memories", DYK? I miss the photographer of the gem, and the designer of the award, and many more, but the list of the Precious is much longer, - it's my way to retain myself ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:34, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Isabeau of Bavaria

Nice of you to nom; very sound. Best, Ceoil (talk) 23:34, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

See talk of TFAR: I was looking for another woman for March, found Isabeau, only then saw it was by Victoria, then that it had been nominated once and postponed, made me tremble a bit - but happy now ;) - I don't like red link user pages, - glad that the pumpkins are back thanks to global user page! (He's an admin on the commons.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:41, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Corrado Miraglia

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:01, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Lead image

Thinking of you. Here. - Hafspajen (talk) 11:46, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

• Not - a canvas, because I know you never vote - just - telling you - that the tile and idea behind is originally your idea. Hafspajen (talk) 11:48, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

. You are ... great. Hafspajen (talk) 11:55, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

miss the photographer --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:00, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

But he is here... ? Hafspajen (talk) 20:02, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

not that I know of, left in 2012, and was banned on top, by Teh Community to which to belong I am sometimes ashamed, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:13, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Water Music (Telemann)

After having the time of my life listening to Water Music (Telemann), the other day, I was very surprised to find that we had no article on the piece. Is this something that interests you? Viriditas (talk) 23:29, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Interest yes, but many other plans first, including women for this months ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:45, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

In German: de:Hamburger Ebb’ und Fluth --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:48, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. You anticipated my next question. I would like to get the stub started using the German translation. Do you recommend any good sources I should rely on for the article? As far as Women's History Month goes, @Gobonobo: has requested that the DYK for Frances Ames be used for that purpose (along with many others, I'm sure). Do you have any idea if active DYK people like yourself will be planning on adding these noms to the appropriate queues? Viriditas (talk) 00:20, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK's special occasion holding area has sections devoted to International Women's Day and Women's History Month. gobonobo ^{+ c} 00:29, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

I am not familiar with the music, just go ahead on the German article, I will watch. Check if it is called Water Music in English. - Women: I moved several to the special section, once approved, and will keep doing so. It's good to mention it in the nom, but not necessary. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:11, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

I checked: Ames is already in that section, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:14, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Gerda. I tried to create it earlier and I lost everything when my browser was taken over by 114 ads (from other tabs) in five minutes. I recently installed the Adblock Plus extension and I'm back in action. Viriditas (talk) 07:45, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Update: I started a stub at User:Viriditas/Water Music (Telemann). Please add it to your watchlist. Viriditas (talk) 23:36, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Gerda. I can't tell you how much I love this piece. It is timeless! Viriditas (talk) 00:01, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Good edits, Gerda. BTW, "college" is also used in English to mean "an organized group of professional people with particular aims, duties, and privileges" which is why the source used it. However, I think your change is superior, as it 1) eliminates the ambiguity, and 2) uses a more precise translation. Viriditas (talk) 07:07, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! I also think "college" should be avoided because it is a present-day term, while "Collegium" a historic one, which the reader would not instantly know. - Look at Cello suites (Britten) for inspiration, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:09, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

The harlequinade article concerns both the genre (or rather the theme) and the dance form as a stylized, comedic "mime dance", which originated with the commedia dell’arte all’improvviso. In other words, Triton "jests" in the spirit of a harlequinade, an ancient pantomime dance. Do you disagree? Viriditas (talk) 12:38, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

To my understanding, the harlequinade article describes a British theatre genre, - wrong place, wrong time. Unless it is changed to more general, or would not link. Most readers will have an idea what Harlequin is,- if a link is needed that one may be better ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Ah, I see why we disagree. Harlequinade came from Italy and first developed in Britain in the 17th century, so it is in fact, the right time. I'm not sure what you mean by wrong place, however, as Telemann draws on styles from all over Europe in this piece. According to one source I'm looking at, "Because of the suppression of unlicensed theatres in Paris, the French performers flocked to London where they could perform, making speech in the harlequinade an unnecessary part of the act..." Without speech, we can see why dance and music become so important. "Though the problem remained only a short time, the effects were that the English harlequinade continued to be “primarily visual”, and only later made use of dialogue... In the early 18th century, Commedia variations were performed in London as “Italian night scenes”, eventually evolving into an English Harlequinade which became standard." Viriditas (talk) 20:49, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

What do you think of linking to the history paragraph then, avoiding the look at the 1890 poster in English? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

That's fine, but I'm not in a hurry to link at this time. Obviously there is a problem with that article that needs to be addressed, separate from the Telemann piece. Viriditas (talk) 20:51, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Jesus Christus nostra salus

Hello! Your submission of Jesus Christus nostra salus at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Mabalu (talk) 17:58, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Precious again

My goodness, how time flies! I can't believe that was a year ago now. Thanks again for the award. LazyBastardGuy 20:38, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikilove

Recently (yesterday) I discovered how to leave a wiki-love message on someone's talk page, but at my age that feels a bit over the top (English upbringing?) Anyhow, thanks for your inputs on Dagmar H. (Somewhere there's a possibility to put a grinning cube and a thank you for the contribution message in the drop down notifications page for a talk page, but I'm afraid I haven't figured that one out either. - yes, that's the one...) They had about fifteen junior industry ministers in East Germany - one for each significant industrial sector. So if you just count the GDR ministries, roughly 15 of 30 are some variation on a theme of industry minister. Trouble is, even in German wiki, for most of them no one has found anything wiki-worthy enough to create an explanatory wiki entry. Under a system where everything was decided by The Party, mere ministers (except where they were simultaneously members of The Party Central Committee - and often they were) are little more than bag carriers with nice job titles. Ach well, it would be dull if Wikipedia were ever to be finished. Fat chance, you may chortle...). Charles01 (talk) 07:07, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

I like people (more than organizations, sorry) ;) - The messages of appreciation which are personal notes are dear to my heart, such as The "If I had the time I'd make a Wikilove thingy with a pretty picture, but I'm lazy so instead you'll have to settle for text" Barnstar and The Non Barnstar, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:18, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Notability and sourcing

Hello Gerda! Hope this finds you well. Might I trouble you with comments here? Thanks! FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 16:44, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the talk page message. It may only be three years ago; but for me it feels like a lifetime ago as I quit the project not long after that time. Several times since then I've considered coming back; but reading up on current project events has consistently cured me of that notion. Best wishes to you and all that still stick with it here on the project in spite of constant negativity. You proved to be much stronger than I and continue to be a light on this project long after I and others left. Best, Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 20:39, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for coming over, - look above, the first comment is "Hope", kept there for a reason, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Indeed an inspiring comment you keep above. I'll continue to watch the project from a distance and I may one day return. Perhaps things shall get better in time. Best, Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 01:30, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for your kind words on my talk page! I've enjoyed becoming more active and the encouragement is appreciated. Nsteffel (talk) 21:00, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK that I worded a DYK hook about encouragement? ... that the song "Ermutigung" by Wolf Biermann, encouraging people not to become hardened in hard times, was written for Peter Huchel, then under house arrest? I didn't always work, but for me ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:09, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Vienna Conservatory

Please stop reverting my edit to this article. The Vienna Conservatory does exist and it's the name if the Vienna Konservatorium, translated into English. I already gave you a source for that. Opo Chano (talk) 21:32, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Don't talk to me, talk to the project and the editor who found it necessary to create the disambiguation page from a redirect. Many institutions are known as Vienna Conservatory, - the Vienna Konservatorium has this same name even in English. - Your best way forward would be to revert yourself and address the question how your article should be named at the project, - if the institution is notable enough, something the few lines don't make evident. You will need independent sources, not only the website. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

IDK

(IDK == I do know) I didn't understand the like you left on Ched's talk page, but I know Ellen MacArthur set the world record for solo circumnavigation (in a boat) in 2005. NE Ent 23:19, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Interesting, but not for DYK, not "new" enough, - thanks for sharing! - The link shows women on their way to Main page in March, some appeared, some planned, some under review, some needing a review, some still to come ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:28, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Vienna Conservatory (Request in German)

Hallo. So, ich versuchs mal auf Deutsch. Das Vienna Konservatorium heißt Vienna Conservatory auf englisch und das Vienna Conservatory ist nicht das Gleiche wie andere Konservatorien in Wien. Das Vienna Conservatory ist nur der englische Name vom Vienna Konservatorium, also halte ich es für schwachsinnig wenn ihr meinen Beitrag zu dem Artikel ständig immer rückgängig macht. Opo Chano (talk) 13:39, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

"Schwachsinnig" - interessant. Ich kann auch deutsch nicht besser sagen, dass kein Mark Miller Anspruch auf den Artikelnamen Mark Miller hat, auch wenn es auf seiner Website und in seinem Ausweis steht, - sobald es davon MEHRERE gibt. - Such dir eine Unterscheidung aus und setz sie in Klammern dazu, und das bitte schnell. - Ich hab keine Zeit mehr für das Thema. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:48, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

thank you!

Oh, thank you for the hypnotic blue jewel and the PumpkinSky Prize you left on my desk when I wasn't looking. Very thoughtful and encouraging, especially coming from somebody with her Herz an der richtigen Stelle. Vielen dank! Lockley (talk) 18:13, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Lockley , you are still alive ! I heard that, . . no wait, that was someone else. Still nice to meet you in this warm neutral setting. Carptrash (talk) 19:37, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Marga Höffgen

Hello! Your submission of Marga Höffgen at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yunshui ^雲_水 11:17, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Teresina Brambilla

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 13:22, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Infobox Lulu Wang

Would you consider weighing in on this discussion Talk:Lulu Wang#Infobox? Thanks. – Editør (talk) 16:46, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Done, - probably not a wise move considering that I was cited to arbitration enforcement because of the topic. Listen here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:12, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dr. Blofeld -- Dr. Blofeld (talk) 18:20, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Wir danken ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:22, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Only 31 Classical compositions at GA! Probably most of those are yours too! 100 would be a good target!♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:46, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Know Your IX

Know Your IX changes you suggested made. NE Ent 01:52, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Gerda, thanks for the thanks! I hadn't heard from you in a while and wondered what you were up to. I'm looking forward to holidays with family in the Alps and in the Palatinate this year so sort of focussing on those areas a bit. We love Germany and Austria! --Bermicourt (talk) 08:49, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

You saw on my lead image that I am up to women's heights ;) - seriously, I monitor the DYK section of women's history month, high traffic (Link on top of my user page). - If you want to see the lady with the strong name as featured article this March you need to say that (click on her name), - she is supposed to be postponed to April. - Hiking on the Rheinsteig as last Sunday - I think of the Alpine routes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:00, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29

The article Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dr. Blofeld -- Dr. Blofeld (talk) 10:01, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Marie-Louise Gilles

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:51, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Bruckner and Chorale

Dear Gerda,

I was it, who wrote this sentence in Chorale. I will see how I can reword / expand it.

The Messe für den Gründonnerstag, WAB 9, is a nice early choral composition. Unfortunately, there is only a single recording of the full original setting of the mass by Frieberger (Fabian Records CD 5115), a CD you have to acquire in Austria. Moreover, the Kyrie and Gloria, which Bruckner composed afterwards, are lost.

FYI: Last week, I found a beautiful live-performance of Mass No. 3 from Rostock on YouTube: [5]. Hans Roelofs e-mailed me: "Een best imposante uitvoering met goede HD-kwaliteit, dus ik heb hem met genoegen meteen opgenomen en op cd gezet! Bedankt voor de tip!"

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 12:54, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Mass No. 2 (1. Fassung, 1866)

If you want to hear the 1. Fassung (1866) of Mass No. 2 by H.-C. Rademann go to YouTube Romantische Chornacht mit dem RIAS Kammerchor in der Basilika Kloster Eberbach. The mass begins on the 49th minute.

There a total of 143 (!) differences versus the 2. Fassung (1882). Most are small (different instrumentation or articulation). The most obvious differences are mainly in the Credo (different interludes, different "Et incarnatus est" and "Crucifixus", different instrumentation at the end) and Sanctus (3 additional "Sanctus" before "Pleni sunt caeli").

I do not put the link on Mass No. 2 (Bruckner) because I think there is possibly copyright violation (video from Arte). As I let you know previously, Hans provided some months ago me with a CD of it. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 15:04, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Remember: I was in the concert ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:16, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

The Tower House

Hi Gerda, my German being no better than my Greek, I'd really appreciate it if you could dig up anything on Dr Helen Adkin's thesis. But given that's it's not been published, I'm not sure there's much to find. Thanks and regards. KJP1 (talk) 19:15, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

I wrote an email to the contact address on the link, recommending to contact you on your talk. Hope is my mantra, see on top ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:05, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

See reply from Cashen1 on your talk ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:25, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Indeed I have, and have replied. Thank you very much indeed. Best regards. KJP1 (talk) 08:49, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Sing-Akademie zu Berlin listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Sing-Akademie zu Berlin. Since you had some involvement with the Sing-Akademie zu Berlin redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Robert Weemeyer (talk) 08:59, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Additional YouTube links for Bruckner's Mass No. 3 and Requiem

Dear Gerda,

I have added additional YouTube links for Bruckner's Mass No. 3 and Requiem.

• For Mass No. 3, in addition to that of Igor Andrievskiy, which uses the Schalk-Wöß edition, I have added the recent, excellent performance by Christfried Göckeritz, for which there is also obviously no problem of copyright (uploaded by the hmtRostock].
• For the Requiem, in addition to that of Maija Breiksa (uploaded by herself), I have added the digitalisation of Friedrich Wolf's performance of 1974 (a 41 year-old LP) - a digitalization, which has not been issued as CD. Hopefully there is also no problem of copyright.

NB: For Mass No. 1 and Mass No. 2:

• For Mass No. 1, I have only the performance of Stephen Blackwelder, for which there is no obvious problem of copyright.
• For Mass No. 2 (2. Fassung, 1882), I have the performances by Georg Christoph Biller and Johannes Kleinjung, for which there are also no obvious problem of copyright.

For the Missa solemnis there is a pirate copy of Jürgens CD - the reason,for which I am not referring to it.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:34, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29

Hello! Your submission of Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yunshui ^雲_水 14:23, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Opéra de Dijon

Hi Gerda. I see you found my latest opus . I've removed it from Wikidata as a co-link to fr:Grand Théâtre de Dijon because the articles are not really on the same subject or equivalent. "Mine" is about the opera company and arts organization. The French one is only about one of the two theatres which are its performance venues. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:21, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

I would still think it's as close as it will get, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:12, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm not too sure how Wikidata works, so go ahead and relink it if you think it's a good idea. There's certainly enough material for an article just on the Grand Théâtre de Dijon (I only used a small amount of it for the Opéra de Dijon article). I guess if a stand-alone Grand Théâtre article is ever created on EnWP the Wikidata links can always be changed. Voceditenore (talk) 18:19, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

I think a link would help those who read French and would find more over there, but of course they could also do what I did, look in the city which I found interesting. I am on a rather strict voluntary 1RR, so won't do it again ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:23, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Okey-dokey. I put it back for you. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:49, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Saved !

	Gerda, die Schützerin
	Gibst durch ferne Weiten, der Seelen Schmerz Geleit. Doch auf ihren Schlummer, hohe Sternenfrau, gießt du aus goldnen Strahlen, milden Lebenstau, daß ihr Aug' erwache, morgenrotverklärt. frei nach Jakob Burckhardt, untitled, from Lieder, no. 5 ---Wuerzele (talk) 07:23, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

I posted this because I am glad that AE was short and justice was served. Thats why I wrote 'saved' above. Besides your name means Schützerin, so it fell into place. Hohe Sternenfrau might sound pathetic, but its part of the poem and you do have high ideals. The beams and dew dont need an explanation for those who have been touched by you. --Wuerzele (talk) 06:58, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, touched. See below, I deal with that kind of poetry set to music, work in progress, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Wuerzele: thank you for Maria Radner. Tears in my eyes, - putting things in perspective. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:12, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Dagmar Hülsenberg

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:02, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Bruckner's Te Deum - Entwurffassung 1881

Beste Gerda,

Hans Roelofs provided me with a copy from a private CD of an "experimental" performance of the 1881 draft-version of Bruckner's Te Deum. See in Discography of Bruckner's Te Deum: "In dieser Übersicht läuft die Aufnahme unter Stolper (2003) gewissermaßen 'außer Konkurrenz', weil sie nicht in erster Linie ein ästhetisches Erlebnis vermitteln, sondern Einblicke in die 'Alchemistenwerkstatt' Anton Bruckners bieten will. Sie bietet eine frühe Version (1881) des Te Deums - vor allem Franz Schedel hat sich um diese Ausgrabung verdient gemacht. In ihr ist das Grundkonzept schon da, die Ausführung der Details allerdings noch unausgegoren; die endgültige Fassung ist schätzungsweise um ein Viertel länger. Vor allem IV und V erfuhren in den darauf folgenden Jahren eine wesentliche Umgestaltung und Erweiterung. Stimmen sind ausgeschrieben, die Instrumentierung angegeben aber nur rudimentär ausgearbeitet; die Begleitung wird in dieser Aufnahme vom Klavier übernommen und da, wo sie fehlt, durch die entsprechenden Stellen aus Schalks Klavierauszug ergänzt. Als Chor tritt ein nicht-professioneller Ad hoc-Chor auf. Die CD war nie im Handel und nur Interessenten zugänglich."

It is a live performance, which occurred on 07-10-2003 in Nürnberg. The draft version of 1881, which includes the vocal scores and some basic orchestration, is shorter than the final version (357 bars versus 513 bars). In particular the Aeterna fac is different and much shorter, and the final fugue is not yet composed. I find it very interesting. I have added a mention to it on the page Te Deum (Bruckner).

Beste Grüße, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 15:04, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Very good! - I am in the process of expanding Requiem (Reger), including a fragment of a Latin Requiem, - finding sources not available 5 years ago, interesting! Going to appear at the Salzburg Festival this year. - Sad reason to deal with the topic more than the DYK appearance of Marga Höffgen would cause was this Goodbye, - then I got carried away, - help welcome --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:15, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

thinking of you

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDdvReNKKuk&list=RDCDdvReNKKuk
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_a46WJ1viA

— Ched :  ?  10:38, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Amazing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:39, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

You have worked so very hard to build a "bridge over troubled waters" ... I can't think of any way to say it better. Thank you Gerda. — Ched :  ?  12:30, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks...

...for the award, and for noticing my TFA! I very nearly fell asleep while writing that particular article, so I can only imagine what it must be like for the average reader. :) Despite the delay in responding, I greatly appreciate the recognition and kind words. – Juliancolton | ^Talk 21:15, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Women's History/NIH Women’s History Month Edit-a-Thon 2015

I added all the new and updated/improved articles from this link Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's History/NIH Women’s History Month Edit-a-Thon 2015 to our page Wikipedia:WikiWomen's History Month/2015/Outcomes. Also put shells on them with the Wikiprojects as very few had them. BUT, what I don't know how to do is get the photos on the Outcomes page. (They added like 50 images) Can you help? I can do some of them if you give me direction on how. SusunW (talk) 05:43, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

You are great! I have little experience with photos but saw that there is a section dedicated to newly uploaded images. Add there perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much, you two! SusunW Gerda Arendt A few more now - I added them to the Outcomes page. I tagged all 50 photos Category:Women_in_Science_Edit-a-Thon_NIH_March_2015 on the Commons, so you can see them in that batch.

Gerda Arendt, your suggestions about going the extra mile with Nora Volkow to get GA status inspired me to put pedal to the metal on a woman on our very large "to do" list who's nowhere near as famous, but incredibly awesome. I have nothing to do with biography project, and have never tried to get an article to GA status (although have been the reviewer for one in Project Medicine). I think this page is eligible for GA status: Margaret Morgan Lawrence. It hasn't been reviewed yet though. Any help/hints in getting her to GA would be greatly appreciated. Or any other way we can get her some attention? Hildabast (talk) 12:59, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

@Hildabast: I finally managed to get all 50 photos on the outcomes page :) Just pulled up the category page in commons pasted the image string from there and then used the file name from the edit-a-thon page. One "to-do" checked off my list. Sorry Hildabast, I cannot help you with GA status. I am too new an editor. I am trying to get my first GA status on the Feminism in Mexico piece that I did and could use suggestions as well. :) SusunW (talk) 15:19, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

@Hilda: I don't know what to tell you because I am intentionally on the receiving end of GA, - my initials ;) - I don't do reviews because as not a native speaker I would not dare to judge prose. You can do two things, simply put the nomination on top of the article talk (go to WP:GA and look at the instructions, you will have to pick a group, probably medicine) and see how it goes, or talk to a reviewer first, such as RHM22 (who did two exquisite reviews for me in 2015, see my user page). If things are missing in the article, a reviewer will give you a week to improve. The only biography I brought to GA status was Patrice Chéreau. Perhaps look at other bio GAs to find out what will be expected. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:33, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, SusunW, Gerda Arendt! That's a big help. If for no other reason than to know when I embark on it, I need to do it when I'm not going into a super busy time at work. And thanks for incorporating all the photos. Hildabast (talk) 16:04, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Marga Höffgen

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:02, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Gerechtigkeitsspirale

Started. Can you proof/improve, and don't say I've made things more difficult for you :-)!♦ Dr. Blofeld

WP:NOJUSTICE, they knew that back then ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:43, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Nothing much changed since the late Gothic, right? Justice is in need, deceit high born ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:37, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

AE request result

As a result of this AE thread[6], User:Gerda Arendt you are advised that your two comment limit, in discussions about Infoboxes, is a bright-line rule and that conduct like that exhibited at the Lawrence Olivier article's talk page[7] is a breach of your restriction and will be sanctioned if repeated--Cailil ^talk 17:21, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Rough translation of "analysis" for Gerechtigkeitsspirale

Greta, feel free to use this in Gerechtigkeitsspirale.

Unlike other conventional topics of decorative ribbons and text inscriptions by Falckener, this text can be understood as a call for social justice, and religious integrity in the time of the Reformation, and in advance of the Peasants' War of 1525. The content of the text recalls the struggle of the virtues and vices described by the early Christian poet Prudentius in his work Psychomachia. This theme was widespread in the 15th and 16th century in a simple German language formulation of the Reformation by Emperor Sigismund, especially in a printed version from 1476. The client for the laity stalls and thus probably also for the justice spiral was the former Kiedrich pastor Zweifuss, who went by the Latin name Bipes.

Thank you!

Thank you for your kind notice. But in reality, its easy to write about something really cool!Thelmadatter (talk) 21:50, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, see above ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Requiem (Reger)

Hi, Gerda. I opened the review page for Requiem (Reger). I've done a few edits, but I haven't yet begun the GA review. I'll start tomorrow and I hope to finish then as well.-RHM22 (talk) 05:42, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

cos LessHeard vanU (talk) 09:49, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

I take any blame ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:05, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Margaret Kennedy (singer)

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:01, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thank you for this. It is really appreciated. However, I'm wondering if they will take it down because of the multiple opus lists Bartók created. Should I say something?

Wildbill hitchcock (talk) 22:59, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

No "should", you say something if you feel it's helpful. Do you have book sources also? That would help. We could say something different. A friend recently assigned Opus 1 to a work (after finishing it, decades later than the beginning), may be that's what caught my attention ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for St. Peter, Leipzig

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:01, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

In before Legobot

Gerda, I've finished your GAN review, and the article is currently on hold. You're doing some good work in expanding or creating articles related to classical music.-RHM22 (talk) 02:12, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi again. I think the Nölken painting may not be PD, unless you know that it was published somewhere prior to 1923. If not, how would you feel about replacing it with File:Reger Max Postcard-1910.jpg, or a cropped version thereof?-RHM22 (talk) 17:20, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

I replied on the review, at the same time ;) - The painting is from 1913, which is prior to 1923, no?--Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:27, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

By the way, here is a cropped version using the special CSS template, in case you're interested.-RHM22 (talk) 18:19, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Ilse Thiele

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:01, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Re: New article

One of the considerations I use when determining which hook to use in the image slot of a set is whether a person has recently had other nominations used in an image slot. This is an attempt to "share the wealth" among as many nominators as practical. In the past few days, your nominations for Margaret Kennedy (singer), St. Peter, Leipzig, and Ilse Thiele have all had their images used. The image in the nomination for St. Valentin, Kiedrich is a nice one, and I seriously considered using it in Prep 5, but you have clearly been doing quite well recently in the competition for image slots and as a result I decided to let someone else have a chance. --Allen3 ^talk 12:25, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

I am sorry that you see competition where I don't. The image of St. Peter today was nice but not unusual (and of your list the only article I didn't nominate for others), Ilse Thiele is to my liking because it defies the prejudice that women have to be young to be pictured. The image of that woodcarving is unique! I go for information, - please consider to run it much later if editor competition is really a concern. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:39, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Call for your opinion

Hello! I can only assume that you agree with my voiced opinions related to Peter Sellers' infobox, since you have thanked me for every edit I have made related to it. I encourage you to share your support of it on the article talk. You are a well-respected editor with a near perfect record that could really help me out. Thanks in advance — k_scheik ^{talk to me!} 13:18, 18 March 2015 (UTC).

I don't think my voice would help you exactly, I am the most severely restricted person on the battlefield, did you know? (Look above for AE, and don't miss Gerechtigkeitsspirale.) I tried more respect, think it's needed ;) - I thanked you because you speak where I can't. Perhaps first read about collapsed infoboxes, - some of the same users still use the same arguments. For more background look at Talk:Chopin, - the slogan created in the context was "Curtains conceal, infoboxes reveal". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:37, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

I read a bit myself in the discussion from March 2013, and see that I didn't change my mind: "better not accept hiding and collapsing, be open". Another user commented: "I think infoboxes should not be collapsed but may be appropriate in rare situations where consensus otherwise cannot be reached." Is Sellers perhaps such a rare case? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:49, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Not without amusement, I read in the other archive: Identibox, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:39, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Requiem (Reger)

The article Requiem (Reger) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Requiem (Reger) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of RHM22 -- RHM22 (talk) 18:21, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! I remember having been part of the premiere of the organ version, as if it was yesterday, with a friend listening who was dying, - the music played for his funeral a few months later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:27, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm glad that you were able to help improve the article. I've never worked on any articles with personal relevance to myself. It must have been a very important experience.-RHM22 (talk) 18:40, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Singing and exploring the piece was very important, so was the first writing, and now, and more to come. I would think that half of my articles have some personal relevance, but not always this strong ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:44, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

That is very impressive. The only personal connection I have to my articles is that I may have carried the coins in my pocket a few times. Actually, I've worked on nine FAs on nine different coins (one medallion series), and I've only ever owned three of them.-RHM22 (talk) 01:41, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	You are welcome Dfrr (talk) 22:00, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Starting editing with adding life to Carry On (Fun song) is a great signal, - Carry on to sing of fun! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:35, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Many many thanks

Dear Gerda Arendt, many thanks for your very kind little note on my talk page. It cheered me up. I am not sure about your choice of highlighting "economic change", and Lilian Knowles, which would have benefited from a nice little picture with her with a mortar-board (here http://www.eumed.net/cursecon/dic/dent/k/kna.htm) - but I lacked the will to go through all the copyright stuff. But the Danube Waves one was interesting but became or is a bit messy. Little pages I've started, sometimes "quickly", which you might like, and which could benefit from help, include Yun Sim-deok, (which led me to Danube Waves - and you can hear her eerie Danube Waves/"Psalm of Death" on youtube), Schlafe, mein Prinzchen, schlaf' ein, Nadka Karadjova who I was surprised how little there was on her, Bring Flowers of the Rarest written by Mary E. Walsh and I could not find enough about to get even a quick new page, and one I liked but was a bit tricky Jón Stefánsson (academic). Anyway really many thanks and best wishes, (Msrasnw (talk) 23:59, 18 March 2015 (UTC))

Thank you, good ideas. - Knowles was what caught my attention ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:04, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!

For the blue surprise you left on my Talk page. A really nice moment in a day that didn't start well.Alafarge (talk) 14:40, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

new essay

The ArbCom case against me is vexatious indeed - I shall not contend against those who taste blood. The main complaint even includes my essays - so I wrote one which I hope you will appreciate WP:Wikipedia and shipwrights. It would be fun to see how others react, indeed. Warm regards, Collect (talk) 04:42, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I defend that Kafka was a realist. (Look at the AE thread above.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:22, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Johann Baptist Wendling

Dearest Gerda, could you do me a favour and check over this article that recently passed through WP:AfC that I've just nominated for DYK? I had a fun evening yesterday listening to a concert band play an arrangement of one of our songs that I cobbled together in two evenings using Noteworthy Composer. It's been several decades since I've played the clarinet in concert and wind bands, and it bought a bit of a nostalgic tear to my eye trying to learn the first movement for the English Folk Song Suite when I was about 14. Anyway, I digress. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:57, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, nice, will need a source for his pupils, and I didn't dig in finding links for them, - publishers yes, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:07, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

I added him to the List of composers by name, please do that for all classical composers you come across, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:17, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for String quartets (Waterhouse)

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:02, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

In case you haven't seen it

User talk:Gerda Arendt/Locus iste. —George8211 / T 21:54, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for St. Valentin, Kiedrich

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:02, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Missa solemnis (Bruckner)

Beste Gerda,

If you want to hear Bruckner's Missa solemnis, there is a (pirate) copy of, I think, the best performance of it by J. Jürgens on YouTube: Bruckner's Missa solemnis. I find it regrettable that this nice work is so seldom performed / recorded.

Enjoy, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 11:43, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Agree, thanks for sharing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Jenny Twitchell Kempton

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DYK nomination of Gerechtigkeitsspirale

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Isabeau

Hi Gerda, just stopping by to thank you, once more. Victoria (tk) 18:58, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, lovely to still have you around, - miss Yngvadottir now (see "just" in my little box on top which was "you" before). Did you see my www-slogan on the user page? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:11, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Jenny Twitchell Kempton

Hello! Your submission of Jenny Twitchell Kempton at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! --Allen3 ^talk 22:01, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Know Your IX

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Unionskirche, Idstein

Basically I changed the 17th century church to 17th century protestant church. I just updated that to 16th based on your comment. Since Category:17th-century Protestant church buildings‎ is by denomination and Category:17th-century church buildings is not, the first one should be used when known. As to including remodeling in a century category. I don't believe there are any specific guidelines. So someone decides about it being significant enough (actually was the remodel defining?) which would determine if the category was needed. I'm adjusting many categories so if I'm only looking at the existing categories and not reading the article I will not be questioning or changing the existing determination. How this makes sense. Vegaswikian (talk) 16:18, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

It does make sense. If you look at the interior (you may have seen it in the Signpost), it's definitively 17th century looks ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:22, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

LOL

You are such a perfectionist...:-) — Ched :  ?  00:07, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, FA and TFA is a big difference, especially if a FA has not been on the Main page and could perhaps use a few supports. I didn't participate in the FAC for a reason, - The Tower House was more inviting, or look at Gary Cooper ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:11, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

I gave up on all that stuff. I helped a few folks with GA and FA things a while back, but I saw how political everything was.

• DYK: that I've made more edits as an IP in the last two months for typo and copy-edit things than I have as a logged in account? — Ched :  ?  00:57, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

The woman who can't believe what she has to see

• DYK that Andy runs a mailing list for infobox warriors, or that consensus should never be challenged - especially in its absence? Alakzi (talk) 01:14, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

• I know that it is not true, both, but what can you do against fears? Andy has better things to do. Anybody with a mind knowing the situation would know better than to "attack" certain articles. Anybody with a mind NOT knowing the situation may - however - miss something and try to serve the readers. - Before we judge if there is "consensus", we need to define what consensus. I like Gary Cooper and said so. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

I'd even go as far to say that Mabbett runs a camp training recruits in the art of infobox terrorism. There's one in Cyprus I believe, Alakzi is the regional commander.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:50, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

• It's kinda creepy that Dr. Blofeld wasted enough time on my contrib log to discern a Northern Cyprus pattern. Alakzi (talk) 14:06, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!

I would give you an award but I don't know how. Thank you for your tireless work on Twitchell. So glad we got the photo reinstated. Thank you for the beaucoup edits you have made on behalf of the Women's History Month overview. Thanks for reviewing so many of my DYK. The list is endless. I appreciate you. SusunW (talk) 01:47, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

I love the prose rewards, see under blushing above ;) - It's lovely to work with you, just looking at the photos of women you uploaded is uplifting, so are the nice infoboxes you give your articles, and the stories you have to tell! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

		The Angel Heart Barnstar
		I appreciate all that you do. Random acts of kindness make the world a better place. It is hard being a newbie but it is much better when there are people supporting you and helping you along the way. SusunW (talk) 14:09, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

You found a good one ;) - You are an inspiration to others, did you know? Want to join the cabal? Half of the active members are female ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

The Bettina von Arnim Award

The Bettina von Arnim Award
Thank you for being an inspiration to others. Keep up the good work.

— Maile (talk)

Thank you. Do you know that I seriously thought about needing a break today? This helps to overcome. Forgive me for placing her right to look "in" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:23, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Det sjungande trädet (opera)

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:01, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Maria Radner

Thanks gerda. got the ping . i would never have seen your edit on the Radner talkpage. i am ignorant on dyk. I finally saw your edit in the review history, but didnt see the DYK template you inserted at first . its kind of hidden (is it always like that? looks weird).

so: what do i need to do? comment?

plse advise. i know that some sort of clock is running.... something like within 7 days? need to sleep. --Wuerzele (talk) 07:54, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

All fine, it's included in the nominations. (Main page, DYK section, click on "Nominate ..." under the "hooks", comment only if you want to. So sad. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Precious again

Thanks Gerda, it's the 30th anniversary of the rediscovery of the Titanic later this year so watch this space. :-) Prioryman (talk) 18:42, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration request concerning you

Please see WP:A/R/C. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:46, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

what a virtual plague, Nightingale. i am focusing good energy on you.--Wuerzele (talk) 08:12, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I said (there) that real people die. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:14, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Marcia Haydée

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Question

How do I get this DYK nomination moved to the Women's History Month queue? Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 22:05, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

First it needs to get reviewed normally, and it will be too late to appear in March, - but - as last year - they will keep counting the later ones also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Is it OK to turn Women's History Month into Women's History Year? :) Viriditas (talk) 22:16, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Don't know, - my sense of humour is limited today, helping with an article about a woman who died --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:23, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I was very sad about that. I remember hearing her work a while back, and I think an interview as well. It's a terrible loss. Viriditas (talk) 22:31, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Only one of the female persons is a woman. The other is a girl (maiden). Viriditas (talk) 23:00, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

I changed it to "female figures", a standard art term. "Women" was used twice, so this also cuts down on repetition within the hook. I hope you find this acceptable. Viriditas (talk) 00:50, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Very good. I was alerted the "female" should not be used as a noun. Sorry I didn't look deeper at the article, sad and tired, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:09, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Cläre Jung

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:01, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Enthiran PR

Hi, I am Ssven2. I had recently taken this film article starring Rajinikanth and Aishwarya Rai to GA status and nominated it for FAC, but it was withdrwan due to WP:PUNC and MOS:LQ issues, most if which have been resolved. Do let me know if you are interested in leaving additional comments at the article's 2nd PR. Thanks. — Ssven2 ^{Speak 2 me} 12:41, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

As I have said, do let me know if you are interested in leaving additional comments about any prose issues and any copyediting left to be resolved at the article's 2nd PR. Thanks. — Ssven2 ^{Speak 2 me} 09:28, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Dreadstar

I realized after I made the edit that I should have moved him to the top portion but I didn't want to make a lot of edits on your subpage. So sad to see him go, I hope he returns one day. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:46, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for adding! (I usually wait a few days but am sadly sure it will take a long time to heal, - no prediction how long. Should add Yngvadottir - same feeling about determination.) - It's a project subpage, not "mine" at all. (Strictly speaking, no page should be anybody's, and the logic by which I have to make sure that I "created" an article if I want to add an infobox is flawed from the start.) - Click on "blushing" on top and look for his name to see what I miss. Editing Maria Radner fits my mood perfectly. - On a positive note: check our project (of the outcasts), - half of the active members are female ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:58, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks + invite

Thanks for thanking me for my edit about North England wikimeets. :-) If you're in the area for any of them, then you would be most welcome at them! As a reminder, they're at:

• Leeds on 12th April 2015
• Manchester on 26th April 2015
• Liverpool on 24th May 2015

Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:14, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, no, I am in Germany and miss people. Wish I could be there, by the list ;) - Kindest regards when you meet, RexxS and Andy are friends of mine, see/hear? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:22, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

OK, if you're ever in the area then you'd be most welcome at the meetups! As a thought, would you be interested in remotely attending one of them? I'm not sure how well it would work, but we could have a go at doing a voice/video call with you from the meetup by Skype/Facetime etc. if you wanted? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:30, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Nice idea, but I think I will listen to what the friends say, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

OK, ping me if you want to give it a go! Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 22:27, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

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[8] Well, it is done. But why did I ever care, I dunno. The first thing I put the article name as a red-link on my page, and I got revertet - vandalism. My own page - my own talk. Hafspajen (talk) 21:45, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

• Sure, instead of fixing the article, (minor problems with the references, or other minor issues) Now it has been removed from DYKS.

• Gerda, I will NEVER EVER EDIT anything any more on the Swedish Wiki ever, and ever and ever again. Hafspajen (talk) 21:50, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for doing it, hope you had some joy doing so!? - Do you remember that you asked me for the name of a little rose in Eltville? I thought of you and looked now: Zwergrose (dwarf rose?) Lupo 2006, - that's what the sign says. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:01, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

It is deleted. The article. There is no such article any more on the Swedish Wiki. They started criticizing me because they said the links were old and unchecked. Than it was not quite finished, but I was thinking I will have more time to do something about it. But then they started the same old mess ... you are not using your talk page as you should, you are not BEHAVING AS YOU SHOULD, SO WE ARE GOING TO TELL YOU HOW TO BEHAVE BECAUSE YOU ARE BAD. YOU ARE A BAD EDITOR. They started the same old circus all over again.

• Thanks for looking up the rose. Hafspajen (talk) 23:01, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry about the Swedish, - look above, I could also be happier, articles on two people who just died, and loss of another editor --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:16, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry to hear that ... sigh, this was supposed to be a happy day. Hafspajen (talk) 23:36, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder, - I replaced the black-and-white image by a colourful one. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:19, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

• Well it looks like it has been restored, links are fixed and some guy said he wants to start a Je suis Hafspajen movement. Hafspajen (talk) 06:54, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

That is impressive! - Thanks to Ched, I have Je suis Charlie above, I am not free to make his infobox on his page, so designed it here. Did you know that after the so-called infoboxes case I left Classical music but joined Free speech? I liked the version by Gamaliel. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:09, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

• Peter Isotalo would appreciate this, I think. Hafspajen (talk) 06:58, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

• Gerda how do you make Je suis Hafspajen sign? Anyway, here is the article, ... YOU the original author of it, may want to go over to Sw Wiki - and simply add to the mainpage because Sw Wiki has no DYKPROCESS. It goes simply - if you have new article add it, on top and change the picture. I know you have an account there. You may also want to put Je suis Hafspajen on it, eh, , what do you know... Hafspajen (talk) 20:40, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Sign I don't know. Main author/translator (from German) of Easter egg tree was PunpkinSky, see DYK nom, - we both couldn't care less about credits. You could make a note on the article talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:02, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

I will not edit it more. Will you please add it to the DYK? It has been it has been removed from DYKS. Hafspajen (talk) 21:06, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Add it on Easter, you mean? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:12, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

OK, it's back. Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir... Hafspajen (talk) 22:16, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

And This is my userpage now. Hafspajen (talk) 22:19, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Easter greetings

	Easter greetings
	Enjoy your Easter Gerda! Hawkeye7 (talk) 07:07, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, too soon, look above, + He was despised first, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:11, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir, BWV 29

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:02, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks again! —Designate (talk) 02:41, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration case request declined

Hi Gerda Arendt, the Arbitration Committee has declined the Infoboxes II arbitration case request, which you were listed as a party to. For the Arbitration Committee, --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 06:26, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:28, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Maria Radner

I see you have been editing there also. I've been unable to post on your page. It's just been too awful. The world has been crying with Germany since last Tuesday. Any life lost is terrible. But Maria Radner and Oleg Bryjak together seems so very tragic. A great loss to the world of opera. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:36, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes. I wrote the DYK, DYK? - I said on the (declined) case (link above, interesting reading) that I am not willing to spend time arguing about a hidden line while real people die. I also rarely felt the responsibility of what we give our readers as much as here, with 3k people looking on a normal day. In prep Tristis est anima mea, pictured. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:43, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Very well done for that, Gerda. And yet another super article with "Tristis est anima mea". Martinevans123 (talk) 21:48, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Will sing it on Friday. What do you think of my DYK above, about Bach's final grant us peace? Will sing that on Saturday. I was in an awful mood this morning (click on "just" in my box on top), the TFA about the song of a murdered woman fit perfectly, but it got better during the day, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Very efficient. Alas we have no article yet for "Poor Murdered Woman", my favourite version of which is by the wonderful Martin Carthy and Dave Swarbrick: [9] (a wonderful album). Martinevans123 (talk) 22:06, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

We also have no article yet for the mass we'll sing for Easter. Need to find a ref for my Easter DYK, the sky is blue, but for DYK it needs a ref ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Here's a piece on Radner from last Thursday's The Guardian, as mentioned by BBC Radio 3's Petroc Trelawny last week: [10] Martinevans123 (talk) 22:27, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, in the article. Found a ref! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:30, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Well done. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:32, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Time to conclude women's history month, very impressive outcomes, - I maintained the DYKs (mostly), almost 200! Some still need a review, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:40, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

A great achievement, Gerda. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:43, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

I wrote only 3 this year, but reviewed many, learned a lot: interesting! 194 possible total, 145 appeared in March. Radner possibly on her birthday. Next sentimental day will start: the invisible bird on the Main page was started by another missed friend who left in 2011 but is not forgotten, - I translated it to German ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:04, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

There's something about "DYK that ... [someone] died?" that sits with me the wrong way, though I can't quite put my finger on it. I suppose it's that I expect DYKs to be light-hearted, or about something wonderful or thought-provoking; this one's just depressing. Alakzi (talk) 23:33, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

We faced the same problem for Charb, remember? I think peace in madness (Wahnfried) is thought provoking. Go ahead, propose a light-hearted alternative, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:39, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

I wasn't being critical of it; it was more of an introspection. I suppose the easiest thing to do would be to flip the two clauses:

• ... that contralto Maria Radner, who died in the Germanwings plane crash, performed Wagner's Wesendonck Lieder at his villa, Wahnfried?

But that's totally up to you - and other DYK regulars. Alakzi (talk) 23:49, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Go propose it in the nomination. This page is popular, especially since it was advertised as a place of "general hostility, stirring and accusations", but it's not where an alternative would be seen, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:01, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, I'm yet to see any of that here, but I'll leave a note at the DYK (probably tomorrow). Take care. Alakzi (talk) 00:11, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Here's the link, and the bird appeared, - nite --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:19, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Invisible Rail

this is an apropriate revision, is it not? We have similar notices on the top of articles like April Fools, and Reference desk. Am I missing somthing? --Naytz (talk) 21:29, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

perhaps on the talk page, not in article space --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:22, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't understand. On articles like April Fools, and Reference desk the notice is in aticle, not talk page? --Naytz (talk) 03:50, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Jesus Christus nostra salus

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 00:01, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Tristis est anima mea (attributed to Kuhnau)

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:01, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Jesus Christus, unser Heiland, der von uns den Gotteszorn wandt

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:02, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for O Mensch, bewein dein Sünde groß

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:01, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Grete Keilson

Hi Gerda! I translated Grete Keilson's article into English. I wasn't sure that I got this sentence correct: Ihre Urne wurde in der Grabanlage „Pergolenweg“ der Gedenkstätte der Sozialisten auf dem Zentralfriedhof Friedrichsfelde in Berlin-Lichtenberg beigesetzt. I took this to mean that she was cremated and her ashes buried in the plot. Let me know if I am wrong. My German sucks. Hawkeye7 (talk) 08:44, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

You are right. Urne is urn, holding the ashes. In German, you would always say "Urne bestattet", not speak of the ashes, here at the memorial site for socialists on the central cemetery Friedrichsfelde.. Did you know that the remains of the designer of Giano's user page are "buried" in an urn on the same ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:05, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

About your comments etc.

Hi Gerda

Thanks for the award! I think you might have wondered what I've been up to recently, it might not be very clear. Well I've worked mainly on the help system, created a couple of pages (Help:Table/HTML_and_tables and Wikipedia:Template messages/Examples), and recently updated Template:ArbCom navigation.

Well I've noticed you around as well. Looking at your user pages it's clear to me that you're a legend here, and sorting out awards is admirable.

I was thinking about what you said on the noticeboard, and was meaning to reply. I don't think you can blame yourself for what happened to Dreadstar really. In my opinion he was showing clear signs of stress. For example, misunderstanding what MB had meant, and then sending that e-mail. And as I said before, I think his unblocking of MB was just so he could exit WP once and for all, as I think he knew it would lead to his desysopping. He'd had enough of it all, and who can blame him? I think WP can be stressful at times, as well as rewarding. Maybe his stress was WP related, in which he's probably best out. But if it isn't then I'm not sure there is much we can do. Having said that, maybe he'll want to return at some point, but he'd have to go through RfA again to get admin status, so I'm not too sure about that.

But anyway, that's my opinion on things, which may or may not be correct! All the best. --Mrjulesd (talk) 13:08, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your thoughtful message. I am sorry that I didn't make clear that I was sarcastic taking the blame (all blame). I said so but perhaps in too hidden a corner. Dreadstar was with me for years and knows that I was sarcastic. He did the right thing, but "out of process". (MB is unblocked.) I said that also. Perhaps you saw on my userpage that I dedicated the article in question to him. You are right that we can't do anything to make him return, but we can do what you did: contradicting people who blame him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Well I'm glad to hear that really. That explains things a bit better. Anyway, speak later. --Mrjulesd (talk) 00:39, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Singing first, happy Easter! The closest I came to see resurrection here was this, "Thank you for stepping forward for what's right and for everyone!" Worth living for, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:56, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Indeed! I hope you enjoy your music. Happy Easter to you and all your watchers. --Mrjulesd (talk) 12:02, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Happy Easter

	Easter greetings
	Happy Easter! ..... from Martinevans123 (talk) 10:00, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Happy Easter

	Happy Easter
	Happy Easter.... Christus ist auferstanden! Er ist wahrhaftig auferstanden!. Hafspajen (talk) 19:03, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Happy Ostern, auch vom--Symposiarch (talk) 21:00, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Happy Easter, and look above for resurrection,

DYK for Domenico Lalli

Thanks for your help with this project Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Theological question on a Bach text

Gerda, I know nuffink about christian theology, and in analysing the fifth movement of BWV 80, I'm stuck. It looks weird to me. May I email you for specific advice? Tony (talk) 09:57, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Certainly, but you could also ask right here or on the article talk. Different question is if I know the answer, I enjoy singing (see just above, stress on "just" = invitation to talk about the translation of Gerechtigkeit) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:02, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Karl Wilhelm Fricke

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Jenny Twitchell Kempton

Thank you Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

GA weirdness

You're smart...I think. Why aren't the rest of my GA symbols showing on my User page? Only one is, weird. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 09:32, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

You can't imagine how much I prefer to be called smart than passionate about infoboxes ;) (I am passionate about the Passions, and I love people, flowers, trees and music.) - Those symbols: I understand you have to put them there yourself, and I don't, gnome is the only icon I want, following a missed user - one of six in the infobox above, out of too many, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:47, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Alakzi is smart, see? People who know that tools are to be used not loved are smart ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:00, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Smart? I don't know about that; I still can't poach an egg properly, though I've ruined many. Alakzi (talk) 12:29, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

I was simply referring to the above: that I was termed smart but only responded, while you fixed it! I like you around and think you also would not love tools or get passionate about them. I great editor died a year ago, and the TFA is in memory of her who started to write it, pictured on top. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:41, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

That's a lovely article. I've—wearily, considering it's TFA—made a couple of edits. Alakzi (talk) 14:01, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. As long as you don't add an infobox, even two days later ... - but wait, this article has a nice one ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:59, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm experiencing deja vu; that reads exactly like the discussion we're having now at Talk:Laurence Olivier#Infobox. Three years later, and we've made exactly zero progress - a round of applause for everybody? Alakzi (talk) 19:37, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps that is what the arbitrators wanted: bind us to the same discussion article after article? I consider 2 comments per discussion a true blessing. - The big difference I see is that the actor had an undisputed infobox for eight years. - For a more entertaining discussion which all participants seem to have enjoyed look at Siegfried ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

April 9, 1865 at Appomattox Courthouse

The article on Ulysses S. Grant was featured specifically today because this is the 150th anniversary of the end of the American Civil War. Unfortunately, that fact is not noted under anniversaries; we have

April 9: Maundy Thursday (Eastern Christianity, 2015); Vimy Ridge Day in Canada; Day of National Unity in Georgia (1989); Bataan Day in the Philippines

• 1918 – World War I: Aníbal Milhais's actions during the Battle of the Lys made him the only person to be awarded Portugal's highest military honour, the Order of the Tower and Sword, directly on the battlefield.
• 1939 – After being denied permission to perform at Constitution Hall by the Daughters of the American Revolution, African American singer Marian Anderson (pictured) gave an open-air concert on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial in Washington, D.C.
• 1940 – During the German invasion of Norway, Vidkun Quisling seized control of the government in a Nazi-backed coup d'état.
• 1967 – The first Boeing 737 took its maiden flight, eventually becoming the most ordered and produced commercial passenger jet airliner in the world.
• 2005 – Charles, Prince of Wales, married his long-time mistress Camilla Parker Bowles.

but nothing about Appomattox. Is it too late to fix that? YoPienso (talk) 04:47, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Too late for this year, but perhaps next year, - notify in time before the date WP:OTD, they like to change from year to year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:16, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks; there was a push to get the Grant article ready to be featured on April 9, so I think the rare chance has passed. That is, my understanding is the article won't be featured again next year, so the point is moot. Thank you for taking the time to reply. YoPienso (talk) 06:00, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Please understand misunderstandings (pun intended), English is not my first language. I see now better that you would have liked it this year, together with the president, as I had a DYK about Kafka's works together with the writer. However, I think it might be even better in one of the following years, to remind of it. Get in contact with the OTD people for that, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Enthiran FAC 2.0

I have opened the 2nd FAC for the article. Please do let me know if you would like to make any comments. Thanks. — Ssven2 ^{Speak 2 me} 04:50, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks so much for the thoughtful words on my talk page. It's very kind of you to reach out, esp. as I still feel quite new here! If you're in the north half of this world, a very Happy Spring! Altenmaeren (talk) 21:39, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Maria Radner

Harrias ^talk 00:02, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

dear Gerda Arendt, thank you for suggesting the dyk and working on the article. I still dont understand how this all worked - it's GA all of a sudden? - and suddenly its DYK on the main page as well, but why ? whats the connection? is this automatically the case? Thank you antway. I am tired a bit like Alice in wonderland, so, just many thanks to taking me along on this ride.--Wuerzele (talk) 02:28, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Wuerzele, article that get GA can go on DYK if they hadn't done so the first time around. It's a new thing, a year or two old now, I think. Montanabw^(talk) 06:30, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

True, but not in this case. Don't believe in miracles, rely on them. This is a dream-come-true of collaboration, Wuerzele starting the article, with help from the start, I nominated for DYK, CookieMonster nominated for GA, both noms found good reviewers, Zanhe and Jacedc, and now it all happens about the same time, - look at the article talk and the nomination and praise all involved! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:40, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Bartholomäus Gesius

Harrias ^talk 08:04, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Invitation

Thanks for the invitation, but I am busier than I should be already. Best wishes, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

About your comments etc.

Hi Gerda

Thanks for the award! I think you might have wondered what I've been up to recently, it might not be very clear. Well I've worked mainly on the help system, created a couple of pages (Help:Table/HTML_and_tables and Wikipedia:Template messages/Examples), and recently updated Template:ArbCom navigation.

Well I've noticed you around as well. Looking at your user pages it's clear to me that you're a legend here, and sorting out awards is admirable.

I was thinking about what you said on the noticeboard, and was meaning to reply. I don't think you can blame yourself for what happened to Dreadstar really. In my opinion he was showing clear signs of stress. For example, misunderstanding what MB had meant, and then sending that e-mail. And as I said before, I think his unblocking of MB was just so he could exit WP once and for all, as I think he knew it would lead to his desysopping. He'd had enough of it all, and who can blame him? I think WP can be stressful at times, as well as rewarding. Maybe his stress was WP related, in which he's probably best out. But if it isn't then I'm not sure there is much we can do. Having said that, maybe he'll want to return at some point, but he'd have to go through RfA again to get admin status, so I'm not too sure about that.

But anyway, that's my opinion on things, which may or may not be correct! All the best. --Mrjulesd (talk) 13:08, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your thoughtful message. I am sorry that I didn't make clear that I was sarcastic taking the blame (all blame). I said so but perhaps in too hidden a corner. Dreadstar was with me for years and knows that I was sarcastic. He did the right thing, but "out of process". (MB is unblocked.) I said that also. Perhaps you saw on my userpage that I dedicated the article in question to him. You are right that we can't do anything to make him return, but we can do what you did: contradicting people who blame him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:41, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Well I'm glad to hear that really. That explains things a bit better. Anyway, speak later. --Mrjulesd (talk) 00:39, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Singing first, happy Easter! The closest I came to see resurrection here was this, "Thank you for stepping forward for what's right and for everyone!" Worth living for, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:56, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Indeed! I hope you enjoy your music. Happy Easter to you and all your watchers. --Mrjulesd (talk) 12:02, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

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Yes, I do. I an still here defending myself against accusations. Hafspajen (talk) 07:54, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, listening is a rare quality. - I try not defend myself against accusations, nor to accuse. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:06, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

• If there is no one else to do it for me, I have to do it myself. I prayed to God that I can leave Wikipedia in a way that these unfair accusations thrown at me will not compromise everything I have done, my character and the work I have done around. He was not sending anyone, everybody is silent. Sometime it is better to speak yourself, if no Prophet Daniel is around to defend Susanna. You remember the story of the Elders? Hafspajen (talk) 08:13, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

• No, nobody has to do it, not even you. I live for almost two years now with some blame, and I take more if needed. Let's write articles. You could comment on my FAC instead of defending whatever and nobody listens. Jesus was silent (John 19:9-11) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:24, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
• No. I was praying over and over.

Der HERR erhöre dich in der Not; der Name des Gottes Jakobs schütze dich!

2Er sende dir Hilfe vom Heiligtum und stärke dich aus Zion.

3Er gedenke all deines Speisopfers, und dein Brandopfer müsse vor ihm fett sein. (Sela.)

4Er gebe dir was dein Herz begehrt, und erfülle alle deine Anschläge.

5Wir rühmen, daß du uns hilfst, und im Namen unsres Gottes werfen wir Panier auf. Der HERR gewähre dir alle deine Bitten!

6Nun merke ich, daß der HERR seinem Gesalbten hilft und erhöht ihn in seinen heiligen Himmel; seine rechte Hand hilft mit Macht.

7Jene verlassen sich auf Wagen und Rosse; wir aber denken an den Namen des HERRN, unsers Gottes.

8Sie sind niedergestürzt und gefallen; wir aber stehen aufgerichtet.

9Hilf, HERR, dem König und erhöre uns wenn wir rufen!Hafspajen (talk) 08:35, 14 April

If nobody else will listen, He will listen to me. Hafspajen (talk) 08:39, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

• And Luther was not silent. He spoke. Hafspajen (talk) 08:43, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

• He spoke what he felt was right and needed. Self-defense is not needed. You are a person with integrity, you know it, I know it, others know it. I don't give barnstars or could give you one of these, - you are precious! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:05, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
• I also speak because just like him, I felt was right and needed. Sometimes silence means that you are guilty and agree on everything is said against you. I was listening to you and I agree that there are times it is better to be silent. However not this time. I think if information is twisted or spun, selectively omitted or presented with the intention of disorienting people, it is better to speak. God bless and take care-. Hafspajen (talk) 10:38, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

• Information twisted and spun, - I know the feeling. Forgive me that I have no time to look into what troubles you this time. Without looking, I know that it's not worth nights without sleep thinking about the wording of defense, - right, Drmies? - I came to the conclusion that it's a waste of time. You travel lighter without it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:45, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Re: Ellen Pickering DYK

I am willing to look at this, please forgive me for not reading all the above. I wonder if the neutrality tag is justified. It would be nice to have another recent view, but if it doesn't exist, one is better than none, if you ask me.

Hi, Gerda. I told @Maile66: I wasn't go to be active on the review anymore, but I have to say, it is extremely frustrating to read you say this. As you can see from the review comments (that you didn't read):

1. The neutrality tag was justified because the nominator highlighted one controversial, disputed opinion of the author, and
2. Other recent views exist (and are repeatedly cited in the DYK review, for example, Margaret Homans and Jill Campbell to name just two, the sources of which are cited over and over again) but the nominator refuses to cite them, preferring to frame and focus solely on the singular opinion of Mary Poovey. This is problematic because
3. Poovey's view on Pickering is a theoretical exercise, allegedly based on only one of Pickering's sixteen novels. It is also controversial and disputed by other sources. As a result
4. There is a NPOV violation: the article claims that Pickering's "works were re-evaluated in 1999 and they were considered over-complicated and conventional", when it is only Poovey who claims this, while ignoring the opinions of other writers who do not (Homans and Campbell), and who in fact challenge Poovey's position.

The simplest solution to this problem is to cite the sources. The nominator prefers not to do this, claiming that the article is "complete". This of course has never made any sense to me, which is why I took objection to his position. Having had a lot of experience dealing with controversial, disputed topics, best practice is to describe the dispute, not to assert Poovey's claim is true. This is the core of the problem. There are enough secondary sources freely available describing the dispute to do this very easily, and I've provided them in the review. Let me know if this makes sense. To help facilitate this process, I'll make a request for a resource exchange so you can review the sources. However, since the secondary sources cited in the review already describe the dispute, there's probably no need for this. Viriditas (talk) 21:05, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

This makes sense for GA, where comprehensiveness is wanted, - we talk DYK, new articles to get people interested in the subject. Why don't you add the other views if you have them? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:07, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

That's certainly a solution, but I didn't do it then because I was the reviewer. However, it seems likely that this is what I will have to do now, so thank you for prodding me. However, I want to address this continued claim of "GA comprehensiveness" that you and others keep claiming. The problem at hand has nothing to do with comprehensiveness. It has to do with undue weight, which is a NPOV issue that impacts all articles, whether they are DYK or GA. I can't imagine how any DYK nomination could be approved for violating NPOV, and what troubles me greatly is that the nominator is an experienced editor who refuses to see or to understand the problem. In any case, I could fix the problem to some extent with just the freely available secondary sources, but I tend to compare and contrast source material because I'm very concerned with getting it right. So, I will make a resource request to get access to the more important sources. Viriditas (talk) 21:22, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Sources requested here. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 21:48, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

A belated Thank you

...for this. I've sent you an email.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 02:37, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

very welcome, thank you for perspective, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:24, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the thank

Thanks for the thank for my Casino Royale edit. Too bad it was undone. :( Popcornduff (talk) 10:03, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

"brutal torture" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:07, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Grass

Gerda, you might be interested in this little video about Günter Grass and Danzig/Gdańsk. Sca (talk) 17:19, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

yes, thank you! I placed him on Portal:Germany, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:26, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Good pic!

Perhaps you saw what we went through getting him posted on ITN. Sca (talk) 21:17, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

PS: I wonder if the Poles would allow him to be buried in Gdańsk? That would be a story. Sca (talk) 01:19, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Jeannette Zarou

Allen3 ^talk 00:05, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

fyi

See the response I got to my message on my talk page. Bgwhite (talk) 07:48, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Fiat 130 HP - Thank you!

Thank you so much for helping provide direction with this article. It is mostly stable now, unless I find something to expand. I am going to leave it be for a bit, I think, to get more input. Lovely that during its creation, I included a redlink for one of its predecessors - now I guess I need to build that one, too! Anyway, if you have any more suggestions, I am all ears... ScrapIronIV (talk) 16:11, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Die Gezeichneten

Thank you so much for your help with Die tote Stadt. I hope you like the new look. Now I have some (hopefully expressive) pictures from Operá de Lyon: Die Gezeichneten, see: [11]. Could you be please so kind and construct the opera box for Schreker on the bottom of the page, so that I can add an opera box on top of the page? Thanks so much and best regards from Vienna. If you come to our city, I would like to get to know you (and invite to a play or an opera). Regards and lots of red roses from Vienna --Meister und Margarita (talk) 20:04, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, {{Franz Schreker}} - What do think about Talk:Beethoven, started about this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Marcia Haydée

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:01, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Georgette Tsinguirides

Sunday on the wiki looks better with your contribution - Thanks Victuallers (talk) 15:06, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Martin Petzoldt

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:22, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for looking at the ColonelHenry drafts. Look at the MfD linked in history for more of them. :) ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 23:30, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Help, everybody, more on ColonelHenry and User talk:Hasteur#Drafts. What I don't understand is why an experienced user would write drafts to start with. My favourite of them is Remember not, Lord, our offences, - I am tempted to quote that every time I am called for arbitrary enforcement. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:34, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Yea, when he was banned his entire userspace was put up for MfD but I saw a lot of salvageable content (for which I had neither the time nor expertise to complete and move to mainspace myself), I opted to push them towards draftspace in the hopes that someone else would rescue them. I'm glad they were able to produce new content, regardless of the status of the original author. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 15:58, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

I received the notifications for a few of them because while most were moved directly from user to draftspace (preserving attribution to CH), a few were drafted on the same page, and there was no way to separate history, but since he was the only editor, I was able to manually split the content towards a few drafts and leave a note in the creation edit for attribution. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 16:00, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

OK, I think I get it better now. They are no new content yet but may become, - help welcome. What are we fighting, hate or fear or both? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Re:Precious

Thanks for the award. A small historical note, Homerpedia came from a WP:FAC post made by a well-respected admin who made a section solely to complain about the number of FAs and such that WP:DOH was turning out and lamenting that we weren't working on more worthy articles. Like the smartasses we are we adopted it as our slogan and the banner came about a few years later in response to other users who thought we were misfocusing our efforts.

Also, out of curiosity, you wrote "including quality articles such as Bart Simpson and Nancy Cartwright (of 816, as of today)," could you clarify what the last bit in brackets means? Thanks again and all the best, Scorpion⁰⁴²² 00:40, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for lovely insight in the background, - I know the feeling of other users thinking we are misfocusing, - thanks for the word! When I have to pick a few articles as examples from a Wikipedia-life's achievements, it can be only a random choice, I risk that I take, but I wanted to at least hint at the amazing number of articles, given on your user page as 816, which I believed AGF, something that has also been questioned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:26, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Ah, I see. 816 is actually the number of articles that were part of the Simpsons WikiProject when I made the banner (I think it's at 900 now). There's a list of G/FA/Ls on my page, but I don't keep track of the number of pages I've improved (but in all honesty, if one included the pages I've created or made a big contribution that never made G/FA/L, 816 would probably be too low). -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 00:02, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Suggest a wording ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:42, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Radner

Hi Gerda. I finished looking over Maria Radner. I think it's just fine as GA, and I would probably have approved it as well, had I time to conduct the review before! I can think of two potential criticisms that you might encounter: the first is that some parts read a little like a memorial page, which might be appropriate in the 'Death' section, but probably not in 'Personal life'. Maybe that could be toned down a bit. Also, there are several quotes which are not attributed in-text, which tends to make it seem as though some opinions are fact. I'd work on adding some names to the quotes. Other than that, it looks good.-RHM22 (talk) 00:34, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for looking and good comments. As I wrote little of the text, and no quotes, I would prefer Wuerzele and Cookiemonster to have a go first. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:13, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Hans Werner Henze

Hi, Gerda:

I notice that you have been active on the article "Hans Werner Henze" over the years, so I'm writing to you.

For Checkwiki, I just fixed a broken ISBN in the article. The bad edit occurred 07:52, 3 February 2015 by DJRafe. Would you please check that entire edit? Some of the edit looks good, but the portion of the edit that screwed up the ISBN (Line 59 / Line 57) looks like vandalism to me.

I appreciate your help. Knife-in-the-drawer (talk) 06:23, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, very observant. I checked this edit which improved the article but didn't find an ISBN number change in it, the two refs added are news. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:32, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of The Modification and Instrumentation of a Famous Hornpipe as a Merry and Altogether Sincere Homage to Uncle Alfred

Hello! Your submission of The Modification and Instrumentation of a Famous Hornpipe as a Merry and Altogether Sincere Homage to Uncle Alfred at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 18:45, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Gerechtigkeitsspirale

Hello! Your submission of Gerechtigkeitsspirale at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! --Allen3 ^talk 09:56, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Yakov Kreizberg edit

Hi Gerda: Referring back to a past note about Yakov Kreizberg, I just made a major edit, which I'm guessing that kosboot will revert without reading it, like the last time. I may need your help to take it to the classical music group, like what you did with Ji Liu, if and when the page is reverted. DJRafe (talk) 07:25, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Without looking: one way to avoid that is to split an edit into smaller groups. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

In this case, I rather doubt it. kosboot with the Yakov Kreizberg article is just like ilovelifeandmusic with Ji Liu, i.e. he considers the article to be his own personal property to which no one else but him has the right to make any major edits, and all the text must present the subject in only the best possible light, with no criticism whatsoever. Plus, in terms of the carbon footprint, each edit of a wikipedia article is saved, rather than erased, so that each version increases the carbon footprint of wikipedia. In any case, we shall see how quickly the article is reverted. Cheers, DJRafe (talk) 07:47, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

I was speaking generally ;) - If you made many changes to an article I am interested in, and I doubt only a few of those, the easiest way to deal with it would be a complete revert. If you changed section by section, it would be easier to perhaps revert one section, for the one dubious thing. If it's one item, fix only one item, - like I will have to do something about contradicting numbers of lines here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:56, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Gerechtigkeitsspirale

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 14:31, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Marga Schiml discography

Greetings, dear Gerda! I'd like to reoccupy my sandbox fairly soon for other work-in-progress, and if you would be kind enough to copy and paste the table from there to wherever you want it you will make an old man very happy. Tim riley talk 18:45, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

You can do that whenever you like, I will know to find it in the history, - you seem not to delete in between. - How do you like the DYK above? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:56, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Of course! Silly of me. Shall do. Your skill in the English WP (as in the DYK above) never ceases to amaze and impress me – and make me feel ashamed of my own uselesness in any other language than my own. Tim riley talk 19:16, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

The language in the above DYK is a little bit of mine, mostly of the original anonymous poet, and with great help from several thinkers, on the talk page, this thought pool, and by the DYK polishers, - summed up: the collaboration I love. As said already, you have to read the poem to the end: "praise the right thing". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:42, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Britten Sinfonietta

Sinfonietta (which I've just created) doesn't seem to be included in {{Benjamin Britten|state=collapsed}}, which I included in that article. Is that important? What, if anything, do I need to do?
I own Carpenter's and Evans' books, so am well placed to create articles on Britten's less well-known works. (No articles yet for The Poet's Echo or Sechs Hölderlin-Fragmente? I'll see what I can do.
"Einstmals in einem tiefen Tal ..." Narky Blert (talk) 00:20, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for what you do! In former times, the navboxes had red links, but there were people eager not to have them. So, whenever you add a new one, go on the navbox, click on the little "E" in the upper left corner (E for Edit, I assume), and add it, with a year. - If you compare Missa Brevis (Britten) or A Boy was Born, you see another feature you may want to add to the articles. I remember singing The Company of Heaven, with pleasure! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

ps: or look at the composition below ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Vielen Dank! Das wird ich mal probieren!. Für heute - The Poet's Echo. Narky Blert (talk) 23:38, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for The Modification and Instrumentation of a Famous Hornpipe as a Merry and Altogether Sincere Homage to Uncle Alfred

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 07:01, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Completion again?

A DYK article is not required to be "complete".

Since we already discussed this, I'm curious why you are saying it again. As we previously discussed, "completion" is not the problem, NPOV and undue weight is the issue. If you have an article that relies on one source while ignoring others, that's not a matter of "completion", it's a matter of POV. Nobody has ever said the problem is completion. If I have three sources, two of which dispute the one, but I only cite the one, that's not a problem of incomplete coverage, it's undue weight. Viriditas (talk) 09:26, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

As you said, "again". For my watchers: Ellen Pickering, tagged POV. Everybody welcome to change/challenge that, I have no time for it at present. Viriditas, instead of commenting here and elsewhere, you could have added two sources. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:47, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Two sources coming up.... Viriditas (talk) 10:04, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

I have temporarily resolved the NPOV dispute by eliminating the problematic material. For the record, this material has already been preserved in the Mary Poovey article, so little to nothing has been lost. I will now attempt to add more material with balance in mind. But for the record, the NPOV dispute is now over. Viriditas (talk) 00:59, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, take your time, no rush, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:46, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Rhapsody, Op. 1 (Bartók)

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 07:48, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Cavalleria

You don't miss much do you! Thanks! Michael --Michael Goodyear (talk) 16:08, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

I only miss people ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Caligari

I don't believe it is standard actually, or at least I couldn't find any rules backing that up. Closest thing I could find is Help:Interlanguage_links#Inline_links, which seems back and forth on the idea. Personally, I do not like these types of links because users expect to click something and read about it in English. There is no clue in your version whether or not these new links will go to a English-langauge article, or a foreign language one which is only useful if you can speak that said language.

So for now I won't revert my edit, let's talk about it and figure it out, unless there are some other rules I'm missing. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:02, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't live by rules. I see many advantages of {{ill}} over a simple red link (which it replaced):

• It offers the same red link, so there is no disadvantage.
• It shows in small letters that there is a link to a different language, in this case "(de)" for German.
• People not able to read German get at least the information that the person is notable in the German Wikipedia.
• Anybody able to read German can get information by clicking on the little red link.
• Truly helpful people go to the German Wikipedia and start an article in English, which replaces the red link by a normal blue one.
• For the truly helpful person, it's easier to have the link to the other language ready, - compared to a search if there is one.

The article is shown on the Main page now, and I would really love to see it its best - and perhaps find some of those truly helpful people, such as Dr. Blofeld, - please go back to that version, adding "Weimar Republic". - Here's an example which would profit from an article in English: Charivari (ornament). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Compare Cläre Jung and other articles of project Germany, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:37, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

I did revert so that there could be discussion. I only revert once and will let you two work out the details. Best wishes.(Littleolive oil (talk) 17:43, 26 April 2015 (UTC))

Bruckner's Magnificat

Dear Gerda,

FYI: Bruckner's Magnificat by Jürgen Jürgens has just been uploaded on YouTube: A. Bruckner - Magnificat WAB 24. This is the best of the three recordings of this "forgotten" work of the St. Florian period.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:06, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, good news! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:17, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Fiat 130 HP

—HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:02, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much for all of your assistance with this article, and for nominating it! Brings a smile to my face... :-) ScrapIronIV (talk) 17:20, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

I almost see it, thank you, imagine me smiling also ;) - I would have liked it pictured, but as only every seventh can have one, I understand. Nice change in mood from my last one, which was successful without mentioning sex, imagine, - Hafspajen, please look also, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:35, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

an image for a little french village

I wrote to you cause I saw you edited the page of http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User_talk:LilHelpa and you seem more active.

This is a picture you could freely add to articles about the french village Ligardes, I do not have the need of a wikipedia account, so hope you can add it to the encycledia.

It's CC-by-SA or Artlibre.org, my prefered ones, but can change if not fit for you.

Please do not refer publicly to the facebook page.

Cheers.

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Ligardes

https://www.facebook.com/patrick.trauquesegues/posts/569132129896565 (public access, no facebook account required)

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.156.193.124 (talk) 18:28, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Stele (Kurtág)

Hello! Your submission of Stele (Kurtág) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:05, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Article requests: Das Neue Orchester and Christoph Spering

Gerda, given your penchant for baroque music and german subjects, I thought you might be willing to create articles on conductor de:Christoph Spering and his orchestra Das Neue Orchester. We could use the additions :-). Best wishes.4meter4 (talk) 23:23, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

I am very busy already. I'll create a stub and a redirect from the other, for the moment, establishing the links. I hope a page watcher will do the rest ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:47, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd

I think some refs were messed in the articles at: Biographer Justin Kaplan draws a connection between Whitman's notes and the lines in the poem:|p=307–310}}307–310}}

Also, your monkey photo at the top is a copyright violation. I don't know how you got a photo of my mom and me, but you will pay$. Bgwhite (talk) 08:12, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

ref fixed, + 2 more, and there will be more ... - the pic, interesting ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:26, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Spering

to check and link : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoph_Spering — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.156.193.124 92.156.193.124 (talk) 08:34, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, - someone did it already. You can do it yourself: go on "Languages", last on the left, on any given article, click on "Edit links", and you will be prompted to enter the two-digit language code, here "fr" and the article name. If you created an article here, do that in the other language which has a wikidata entry already (then enter "en", of course) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

I 'd done yet, see history of the fr article. but still can't put the photo i wished to add for Ligardes

sorry for bothering you

The photo: I am not good in photo licensing things, so asked friends (see here), got several answers:

• They can submit a requests at Wikipedia:Files for upload, or they can create an account at the commons and upload them themselves. For the Commons, the place to start is First steps uploading files.
• They can post the image on Flickr with the free licence, then we could grab them from there.
• They could email permission to OTRS, at permissions-en@wikimedia.org.
• A request was made here.

I don't know if it helps, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

• The article translated had been partially destroyed by wikification, may be review links removed and vocable by a specialist (eg: "cantor" is not "chanteur" (singer) but is "cantor" or "chantre"), the "corrector" just removed links while correct them
• I could add english translation for the article, or help translating your favourite page into french.
• Just need someone with an account to upload the photo and put it on the village page (you can check the owner on google).
• The license is acceptable for the WP (CC-by-SA or artlibre.org).
• It helps 92.156.193.124 (talk) 12:54, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Great prospect, - my favourite articles are on my user page (and its archive), feel free to translate what you like, - those with a green or blue marker are the best, - you can make stubs instead, don't have to translate word by word. I have little time today but will look, promised, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:10, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Photo DONE. Intergration on 29 april.

Told you here for next articles. Thanks for your work on WP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.156.193.124 (talk) 14:40, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Intertranswiki

Remember your hotlists on your user page? Feel free to add articles which are priority for starting from German at Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki/German/Culture. Cheers.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:21, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

They are easy to find in the archives, will copy ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Just imagining the DYK hook haha.. Interesting request!♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:45, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Born when I wrote 11 opera composer biographies one day for Munich Biennale, where you can find more red links, also on Deutscher Tanzpreis and International Johann Sebastian Bach Competition, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:48, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Cheers!

I Like Gerda.

If only all women were so easy to please. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 12:02, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

I commented. - I - easy to please??? April Fool? - I don't like the waste of time the GGTF arb case has cost, with no end in sight. - I don't like people leaving in frustration, see Hafspajen and Victoria, among others, on top of those missed already (see my infobox on top, "despised and rejected", - did you know that I wrote the article in 2011, because I didn't like how an editor was driven away?). - I don't like that you didn't answer my request, remember? (If not: My advice for a peace treaty would be simple: recommend that every (!) editor in (infobox) discussions would think twice about a second revert in the same matter, and three times about a third comment in the same. Can you word that in legal language to the arbitrators?) Sorry, I forgot the question mark then. - Did you see my DYK for lawyers? - What I like? Curtains up for Lohengrin! ---Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:16, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

I did LIKE your DYK, but I did not know that it was specific to lawyers. As for opera, my exposure is mostly to Italian classic, Mozart, American Broadway musicals of the Rodgers & Hammerstein and Lerner & Loewe variety, and, of course . . . Bugs Bunny. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 12:29, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

I only said "for", not "specific to", "for" meaning "good for" ;) - If you look at Lohengrin, what strikes you as almost blasphemous for a work by Wagner (only other so far the Wesendonck Lieder), while all of Verdi and some of Mozart (Don Giovanni) have it? - Did you know that a bunny took the pic of the monkeys? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:38, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

ps: like like, - that article was later my first GA, written by an indeffed user, - one of the outcasts ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:21, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

ps: like like, liking a barnstar from a banned user ("For believing in the goodness of people above all. For having faith and being willing to work on a cause that seemed hopeless.") - 14 April 2012 and no end of cases that seem hopeless, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:27, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Stele (Kurtág)

Harrias ^talk 12:04, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Baron Munchausen

Hello! Since you've done so much quality work on articles about German arts and culture, I wonder if you'd be interested in reviewing the GA-nominated article Baron Munchausen. I hope to bring it eventually up to FA status, and would greatly appreciate any advice you have.--Lemuellio (talk) 20:02, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Baron Münchhausen, you mean? The German pronunciation is wrong: in Münch-hau-sen the second syllable clearly starts with a "h" which is not even visible in English. Consider to change to his German name, seriously. - I will be there for FA, but don't do GA reviews, sorry, because as a non-native speaker I don't feel I can do justice to the prose. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:10, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

That makes sense. Thanks for the quick response.

The "Munchausen vs. Münchhausen" dilemma was discussed a few months ago—the Anglicized spelling and pronunciation /ˈmʌn.tʃaʊ.zən/ are standard in English-speaking countries. If the German IPA spelling [ˈmʏnç(h)aʊzən] is wrong, though, please do feel free to fix it; it's been on the page for years and I'm not sure how accurate it is.--Lemuellio (talk) 13:01, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

I believe that consistently using the German name, giving the (rather impossible) English version only once, would be the best solution. IPA is Chinese to me (and seems not even helpful), - imagine your name in IPA, and imagine it translated to German with a letter missing ;) - [ˈmʏnçhaʊzən] might work. My problems with IPA began years ago when we struggled over Buxtehude until we realized that it was Danish vs. German. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:10, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Kibbitzing: Of course it should be Münchhausen – that was his (fictional) name!

(I suppose the umlaut could rendered Muenchhausen – but why? We have umlauted characters.)

Gerda, re doing justice to the prose: Your English is just fine.

I'll go away now. Sca (talk) 14:55, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

(come back!) "Of course", - but see the move request linked above, - reminds me of The Flying Dutchman, - as if Wagner composed something in English. - My English is fine, thanks for supporting that, but I can't judge that of others. See Stallerhof (oh, should we translate that to stables farm? Google translate said "court", well how shall a program decide what kind of a Hof?), before and after copy-editing, the last round is far superior to what I tried, and I was already much better than Google translate which doesn't know if "ihr" means "her" of "their". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:03, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Guess I'd translate it simply as The Farm, or maybe as Farmstead. Sca (talk) 16:13, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

You loose the stables ;) - my point is that we shouldn't translate names, period. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:16, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

My iconic memory of "ihr" was when someone shouted over the border crossing at the Vopos (or Grenztruppen), "Ihr sollt euch schämen!" I guess they could have yelled back "Pflicht ist Pflicht" but they kept silent. Sca (talk) 15:56, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Soll ich mich schämen? - Joy in the effort of awakening, - look, the Ring is almost complete now ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:03, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Yes, I remember the citation. There are editors who get discouraged and need such encouragement. I like to see such efforts to keep good editors. Thanks again.

Bill Pollard (talk) 12:21, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, speak to Hafspajen, - Martin is back from the cliff, and Victoria will just need more time, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Congrats on the FA, Gerda! "My" 'Chrome is TFA in only a few more minutes - 24 hours until the 2015 Kentucky Derby! Montanabw^(talk) 22:52, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Translation question

Actually two questions. Please see Talk:Treblinka extermination camp#Song lyrics and the Comments section above. First of all, does a user translation belong in the article at all? Second, if we do carry a translation, what should it be? --John (talk) 23:50, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Without looking (yet): we don't need a translation, but it is nice to understand. See Gerechtigkeitsspirale, I did one translation, Brian the other, - that's alll it takes. If there is a translation available in a source, it can be linked. If it can also in the article is a matter of copyright. For Bach's works, we don't have translations of the whole lyrics (because: which one of several to English and several more to other languages would we choose?), but of single lines in relation to the music, see for example BWV 165. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:23, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Onegin (Cranko)

Harrias ^talk 09:28, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Head of Christ (Correggio)

Harrias ^talk 10:07, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

back later

OK .. I have to go help a friend move - but I'll be back later to help work on article. HAGD. — Ched :  ?  14:50, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

HAGD? Have a good day? - Format refs as our friend would have done, please, who did it for Messiah as a birthday present for me and was reverted ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:55, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes - "Have a good day". Not sure why I was having trouble getting the format on that ref last night. I considered just undoing it til this morning, and I noticed that you fixed it - thank you. I'll have to relearn my {{sfn}} stuff again, but I do have notes on it somewhere. (and yes, his technical skills are sorely missed) — Ched :  ?  17:18, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

What I miss moar are his humor and limitless helpfulness. He left great images, like the pietá, - interesting where that is used. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:53, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

I didn't even do harv refs, just named in an extra section, - I find it so much easier to edit text and refs if they are separate. I you want I can convert to harv, - I just did it for the lilacs, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:04, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

I would not go to FAC without harv refs and an infobox, but otherwise I take harv when I want to reference to several pages of a longer source. - Btw, I think you can move that article to Main space, - it's decent, and more people could use it and improve it, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:41, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

No... it's not going to be a "FAC" article - there's not enough info for that. I don't agree that it's ready to move out to mainspace yet ... give me another week please. It's up to User talk:Drmies, but it needs more work IMO. — Ched :  ?  03:50, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Of course it's not a featured article candidate ;) - I let articles grow in Maiin space. Look at Ray Barra, created as two lines in October 2014 and stayed that way until May, and serving people already! Will go to DYK today, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:14, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Ron Oliver

Just so you know: I'm applying for a username change to Ron Oliver, my almost-actual name. :) Wildbill hitchcock (talk) 19:22, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Fine! - This page is good for name changes to real name. - Nicer to hear it from you than from my watchlist ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:39, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Rodent

Hi. Can the squirrel picture please be the pic for the rodent TFA? It is used to represent Wikiproject:Rodents and is also in the collage/. LittleJerry (talk) 14:22, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Not me to decide. When it is scheduled talk to Dank, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:20, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much!!!

Is a repeat award allowed? If not, I would understand the withdrawal of today's award.

Thanks again.

Sincerely.

Smallbones_(smalltalk) 16:21, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

I do mine, I don't repeat ;) - if I see that others arrived at the same I smile. Highest number is four, Casliber. - Also: it's my prize (or: the prize of the cabal of the outcasts), I make teh rulez ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:30, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

That just makes it even nicer. :-) Smallbones_(smalltalk) 23:32, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Weird typography

Gerda, congrats on your new FA promotion. A few people are privately wondering what the semi-spaced hyphen is doing in the title. It's like that on google entries too. What is its function? Cheers. Tony (talk) 02:32, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Hyphen#Suspended hyphens. Alakzi (talk) 02:51, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

It's short for "O heilges Geistbad und Wasserbad", and reading the above is exactly it. The titles were there before I even joined Wikipedia, - I corrected some but this seems correct. Could you word that in a note? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:22, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Without logging back in, I'd asked a German friend, who said just about the same thing: "It means that the last morpheme of the second noun also applies to the first noun, in this case thus Geistesbad and Wasserbad. This is always done in German, and occasionally also in English." Resolved! Tony (talk) 08:06, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you - happy listening. Do you have ideas regarding the listing of recordings, {{Classical discography row}}? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you very much for the "Precious" price for Msizi Africa, that was very kind of you Gerda and much appreciated! All the best for your own great work. Optimale ^Gu 08:00, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Persondata RfC

Hi, You participated in the previous Persondata RfC. I just wanted to notify you that a new RfC regarding the methodical removal of Persondata is taking place at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). Thanks, —Msmarmalade (talk) 08:17, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, - I hear that the suggestion to replace them by infoboxes is on the table, not only by me ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:34, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Johann Baptist Wendling

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:29, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Ray Barra

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:59, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Quattro versioni originali della "Ritirata notturna di Madrid"

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 10:00, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Op. 120, No. 1 (Berio)

Hello! Your submission of Op. 120, No. 1 (Berio) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Prioryman (talk) 11:24, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Missa Dona nobis pacem

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:56, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Yogo sapphire

Thank you so much, Gerda. Coming from you, I appreciate it immensely. Awien (talk) 01:19, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Flattered ;) - think about Wikipedia:WikiProject Intertranswiki/French, - others: other languages, easily accessible! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:37, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Re. precious

Hi Gerda, thank you for the kind note you left on my talk page. Apologies for being slow to acknowledge - I've been on a wikibreak for a while now... --Maxim_(talk) 13:03, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Donna nobis pacem - Grundmann

Hallo Gerda, Its always great to have you involved - since you do not only provide a helping hand on a topic, but as well how to get out of a WP internal certain mess as well. I haven't been aware of the specific notability requirements for scholars here. The article needed some homework to be done. user:DGG was helpful and critical as well. Thank you all. Serten 14:05, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Op. 120, No. 1 (Berio)

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 15:00, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Vielen Dank...

Reluctant though this user is to employ the word awesome in its current Umgangssprache sense, I very much appreciate the sentiment. Eigentlich bist du ein echter Mensch – and an awe-inspiring Wikipedian! Sca (talk) 13:17, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

PS: See bottom of my user page. Sca (talk) 13:29, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Mensch, I inherited "awesome" from those before me as a quick browsing of the awards list of the prize from the cabal of the outcasts will show. I kept it because I liked to follow the foot steps. I am not awe-inspiring but a co-offender, did you know? Care to improve (old FA) Robert Baden-Powell, 1st Baron Baden-Powell to meet today's standards? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:32, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Wegen Baden-Powell, bin bissli verwirrt. Anyway, to err is menschlich – just had to use the blushing face ( ) here. Sigh. Sca (talk) 15:31, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

How about the translation project? ("ill Germany" on my user page) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:38, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

	Thanks
	Thanks. Hafspajen (talk) 13:23, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

You are well come ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:34, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Eyn geystlich Gesangk Buchleyn

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 18:40, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Because you thanked me

Gerda Arendt, you thanked me for one of my recent edits, so here is a heart-felt...  YOU'RE WELCOME! It's a pleasure, and I hope you have a lot of fun while you edit this inspiring encyclopedia phenomenon!  sami  talk

20:14, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! I was told today that I should be restricted in using the thank-you-button ;) - Imagine if all several hundred recipients came here - but I enjoyed this one ;) - "lot of fun", hmmm, makes me think ...?? - A (WP-)friend died. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

I believe one should not hesitate in appreciating productive edits. Anyhow, I am shocked to learn about the death of our Wikipedia fellow. Although I did not know him before but it's never easy. May his soul rest in peace. Amen!  sami  ^talk 20:37, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Hans Jörg Mammel

Can you proof/source this, just remembered that I promised a GA review!♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:04, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Can you create one out of the ten at least? How about that organist? I'll do the other remaining one then!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:24, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Ascension Day today, with family, little time. I just created one, but no more today. Before I create another I would like to add a bit (+ images) to BWV 11 which is ready for a GA review as it is, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:51, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

I looked again: 8 done of ten, great! An organ builder and a duke left, needed for a 31 May DYK, - if nobody does them until them I will, but low priority for me at the moment. - The ones I placed there are the ones I did NOT want to write ;). - I just recommended the project to project opera. Did you advertise it make it known on Jimbo's talk? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Tscherning

Well, here's first attempt to translate what seems to be rather bleak German poetry:

 

Ein Baum redet den Menschen an.

Was mit hat der Herbst genommen
Kan ich wieder neu bekommen
wann deß Frülings Vater bläst.
Mensch / du kriegest auff begehr
Deinen Geist nicht wieder her
Wann er einmal dich verläst.

Meine starcke Wurtzeln machen
Daß ich mag der Winde lachen:
Du hingegen sinckest hin
Wann nur etwan über feld
Sud nicht gleiches wetter helt
oder böse dünste ziehn.

Bin ich einmal gut beklieben
Und für schaden frey geblieben
So besteh' ich lange frist
Aber du wirst abgemeyt
Offt in deiner frülingszeit
Wann du kum gebohren bist.

Sca

A tree counsels a man (Mensch)

What the autumn has taken,
Can I attain it again
When Father Spring blusters?
Man, you may yearn
But your spirit adjourns
Once it went away.

My strong roots will enable
Me to laugh at the wind;
But you often shall
Sink to the sorrow sand
Whenever tranquil weather fades
Or gloomy haze descends.

I once was out safe
And have taken no harm,
Since then I stay long.
But you get often mown down
In the spring of your life
When you just have been born.

Zwerg Nase and Modern Times

I would do better translating prose (as long as it's not overly abstract). A couple articles I translated from German last year, when Hafs and I were collaborating, are:

• Hans Baluschek
• Rudolf Koller

I especially enjoyed working on the Baluschek piece, with its many allusions to contemporary history, with which I'm well acquainted. But do keep in mind I'm not fluent in German, and certainly not in German dialects or slang. Sca (talk) 14:30, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

I am also not good in old dialect. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:46, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

I took a shot in the dark re abgemeyt, the sense of which completely escaped me.

The Deutsches Wörterbuch, available online, is often helpful with archaic word forms. In this case, I think you guessed right. Kind regards ✦ _hugarheimur 03:34, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Looks like we could combine our efforts here & there to come up w/a reasonable trans.

PS: I noticed recently that Zwerg Nase used the word ausgemistet in describing what should be done to an article to fix it. Quite apt.

Sca (talk) 16:43, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

It's what you do to stables, put it on the Misthaufen ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:47, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

^{AKA mucking out the barn. Sca (talk) 21:18, 13 May 2015 (UTC)}

Should I look into this? Zwerg Nase (talk) 17:12, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

^{Better keep your nose out of it. Sca (talk) 21:16, 13 May 2015 (UTC)}

^{I do like that picture... Zwerg Nase (talk) 09:22, 14 May 2015 (UTC)}

The Black Forest and Its Treasures. Start looking into this: SKELETON FOR A BLACK FOREST NOVEL : Rich old farmer, named Huss. Has inherited great wealth of manure, and by diligence has added to it. It is double-starred in Baedeker. ... Hans Schmidt, young neighbor, full of sentiment, full of poetry, loves Gretchen, Gretchen loves him. But he has no manure. Old Huss forbids him in the house. His heart breaks, he goes away to die in the woods, far from the cruel world--for he says, bitterly, "What is man, without manure?" Glück auf Serten 17:25, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Gottfried Wilhelm Sacer

— Coffee // have a cup // beans // 07:25, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations

		100000 Edits
		Congratulations on reaching 100000 edits. You have achieved a milestone that only 313 editors have been able to accomplish. I have been looking forward to bestowing this award to you for months. The Wikipedia Community thanks you for your continuing efforts to brighten our WikiWorld with you wonderful spirit of acknowledgement. You are a Beacon of Peace! Keep up the good work!

. Buster Seven Talk 15:15, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, a day to celebrate ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:55, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Wow! Congratulations. What a milestone! SusunW (talk) 19:26, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! - Actually not really a milestone, - I am not counting ;) - It came as quite a pleasant surprise, while I had carefully planned my DYK #500 (and nobody noticed), - it was also the expression of gratitude to a person who was still alive then. - If you read that you will understand that in the award, I like "peace" above all! That's a milestone for an alleged warrior, thank you, Buster, - you always know what I need before I do, last time it was koekjes ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations Gerda. That's a lot of edits and a huge contribution to Wikipedia.(Littleolive oil (talk) 22:42, 14 May 2015 (UTC))

For a time, you and I have had similar edit counts, plus or minus a bit. But I just noticed you crossed the 100,000 threshold and wanted to congratulate you on that accomplishment. Wikipedia and its readers have certainly benefited by what you do. Thank you, Gerda. --Rosiestep (talk) 06:00, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Rosie! I would be happier though with a lower count, without the edits I spent for arbitration ;) - Your position in DYK does more for readers! - I keep going with Hope (and patience), --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:39, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

While those edits spent at arbitration were tiring, I am sure, perhaps other editors learned from them and "lessons learned" are important, too. You are writing as a pioneer in this amazing online encyclopedia, and someday, some academician will study your words and write a dissertation, including the arb stuff you went through, but more importantly, of course, all the FA, GA, DYK, etc. content brought to light by you. We may be long gone by then, but I don't doubt it for a minute that our words are important, and that 100,000 edits is monumental. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:29, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

I would be interested how an independent spirit would look at the "arb stuff". My version is short: the case I was in - infoboxes - was requested because when {{infobox opera}} was introduced I embraced it, others reverted, a friend requested arbitration, - there the mere mentioning of "infobox" raised memories of years of battles, and everybody gathered to get revenge for those battles. The workshop phase was actually quite productive, including a suggestion for Beethoven which is now in the article. The lesson I learned: patience ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Wow! 100K edits! Yo urock, Gerda! Montanabw(talk) 18:54, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lobet Gott in seinen Reichen, BWV 11

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Lobet Gott in seinen Reichen, BWV 11 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dr. Blofeld -- Dr. Blofeld (talk) 16:20, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Symphonies (Bruckner)

Dear Gerda,

As you suggested some time ago, I have split the paragraph "Symphonies" of the page Anton Bruckner and put the description of the "Works" in Symphonies (Bruckner). And put a justification in the discussion page.

Please have a look to see whether I have done it correctly. Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:47, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

PS: In the page Masses (Bruckner) I have added some precision about the sketch for a Messe in Es-Dur and that for a 3rd requiem.

I just have transferred the section Conductors, which is only concerning the symphonies to Symphonies (Bruckner). --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 12:39, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

"Perfido"

Thanks for your comments re: my edits of this article. I always get worried when I start editing a work in progress that I might have gone too far with the tweaks.

I actually have three recordings of the aria, in one of them published by Deutsche Grammophon in 1992, the liner notes state that during the 1808 concert, Beethoven commented the piece made no sense outside the context of a drama. It's given as a paraphrase rather than a direct quotation, and as liner notes there is no source given, I'm not sure where to start research, so I thought I'd mention it here as something to keep in mind. Graham1973 (talk) 10:06, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Up to you ;) - interesting quote, what drama, we wonder, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:28, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	Thank you so much for the kindness and the Precious.  sami  talk 12:53, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Lobet Gott in seinen Reichen, BWV 11

The article Lobet Gott in seinen Reichen, BWV 11 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Lobet Gott in seinen Reichen, BWV 11 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Dr. Blofeld -- Dr. Blofeld (talk) 15:02, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for a speedy! I will try DYK then, would not make sense Pentecost or later ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:04, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Well, not quite a speedy, but close! I've just learned this on the guitar, I'm chuffed! Do we have an article on it?♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:20, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Mentioned here, hope not to disappoint you. The DYK was also speedily accepted! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:30, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Oh I can play a few of those already like Minuet in G major, BWV Anh. 114! Gradually I'm learning BWV 998, I'm half way through the Fugue now! Let's just say it's an ongoing thing!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:31, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Zur Vermählungsfeier, WAB 54

Beste Gerda,

To complete the list of Bruckner's religious songs (according to the WAB classification), I have added the second wedding music composed by Bruckner (Zur Vermählungsfeier, WAB 54). In addition, a performance of it can be found on YouTube... (I will add the link).

Can I please ask you for reviewing my (poor) translation of the German text? With my best thanks in advance, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:27, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

I looked and laughed, thank you ;) - I mean the image. It's cute, but not exactly of a Feier in the 19th century, - will look more, but do me a favour: stop describing your translations as "poor", - they are not! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:31, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I will look for a better picture. I, however, cannot take one of a catholic celebration... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:44, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

You could picture the composer, or the place where his landlord lived, or a mens' choir performing in a church ... - it's not for Valentine's Day ;) - Unfortunately we can't illustrate the spirit of clarity mentioned. - How do you like my flowers above? And the piece I performed age 12? (also above) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:46, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Nice lilac! Unfortunately it is not smelling (LOL). --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:51, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

I found it in a related article, which I liked and nominated it for GA, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:55, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

I have changed the picture to a wedding in the Empire of Austria (around 1870). OK so? --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 18:18, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

PS: As reported in Harten's Bruckner Handbuch, the place, where Bruckner lived, was Heßgasse 7, Wien I. The related picture I have found is of a school (File:Schottenbastei 7-9.jpg). Is it that building? --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 18:27, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Lovely image! - no need for where the landlord lived. I trust that it is the place, - don't know better, - could be used for the composer. - Would you find additional images for Bach's Ascension Oratorio? - And/or the cantata for Trinity? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:32, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Beste Gerda, I will have a look for additional image tomorrow. Guten Abend! --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 18:50, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Images for Bach's Ascension Oratorio and Cantata for Trinity

Dear Gerda,

You have a lot of paintings, frescos and icons of the Ascension of Christ on Paintings of the Ascension of Christ and of the Holy Trinity on Paintings of the Holy Trinity.

Best wishes, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:19, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. For Trinity, I will wait until after TFA day, - images are the vulnerable spot for FAs. Ascension: there is a good image of an Ascension scene already, - I think more of related ones, - music, instruments ... - open for imagination. - Any comments for Carl Nielsen? Birthday coming up, he should look as good as possible ;) - Can I interest you in this effort? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:30, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Need a couple of German language sources checked for GA review

Hey, Gerda. Are you available to a little help with a Good Article review for an article about a Czech association football/soccer player? Two of the 50+ footnotes are online German language sources, and they will need to be checked that they support the referenced material in the article. Please let me know. Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:31, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes, if it doesn't have to be now. (Want to expand an article - last day to nominate is today.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Gerda, any time in the next two or three days would be great. The GA-nominated article is Vratislav Lokvenc. Footnotes 14 and 29, denoted "(In German)", need to be checked that they support the referenced article text. Arbeiter-Bienen des Bienenstocks, vereinigt euch! Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:51, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

In other words: gnome, my one and only topicon ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:53, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

My lawyer Looked: 14 is fine as is. 29 supports that he was (at the time of the interview) a scout in Basel. The Interview was in Prague at an international event where he was a guest, and he said that scouting is needed there also. The interview is long, - ask the editor(s) if it says that he also personally did it there, and if yes where (in the interview, more specifically). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:40, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Perfekt. Thanks, Gerda. Got any on-wiki friends who speak/write fluent Czech? I've got 15 or 16 Czech footnotes that require czeching, too. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 10:38, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

My list of friends is here, - I don't care much about nationality ("The only real nation is humanity", said the friend who wrote my edit notice), but the names Hrdinský and Vejvančický look promising, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Gerda. I left messages for both of them. We will see who czechs in. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 11:43, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I like word plays and collaboration ;) - Care to find out how I could "reform" my behaviour, as suggested here? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:51, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

FYI, your guy Vejvančický did me right, Gerda. He sorted through 20+ footnotes, linked sources and related article text in short order, and scored points for thoroughness. Quick response from a busy guy. I would highly recommend him to anyone else who needs Czech language assistance. Thanks for suggesting him. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 12:09, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Bruckner's String Quartet

Dear Gerda,

FYI: I have put on the "External links" a link to the a, according to Hans and myself, good live performance by the South-Korean Notre Quartet, I have found yesterday on YouTube.

Best regards,--Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 08:57, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Perseus and Andromeda (Leighton)

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 01:47, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Discography of Bruckner's Motets and Weltliche Chorwerke

Hi Gerda,

I just have added an overview section "Discography" to the page Motets (Bruckner). Is it OK for you?

I have also added a sentence on Trösterin Musik in the "Selected discography" of Weltliche Chorwerke (Bruckner). The performances of Festlied, WAB 67, Das edle Herz (1st setting), WAB 65, and that of the full setting of Am Grabe, WAB 2, which were only available on YouTube (live performance of five Bruckner's songs by the Wagner Society Male Choir of Japan, 12 December 1988) have been in the meantime put as "private video" and are no more publicly available. I had consequently to remove the link to them. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 10:57, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

PS: Fortunately, Hans, John and myself have a CD (DutchDragon HR 750) with this only recording of the three songs, as well as of their performance of Sternschuppen, WAB 85, and Trösterin Musik, WAB 88 (a cappella). --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 08:30, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Lobet Gott in seinen Reichen, BWV 11

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 13:32, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Did you know nomination for Statz Friedrich von Fullen

Hello Gerda! I've reviewed your nomination for Statz Friedrich von Fullen, and am only lacking an in-line citation for the hook fact. If you can fix it, I'll be happy to provide the little green tick :) Yakikaki (talk) 16:58, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Bruckner's Weltliche Chorwerke

Dear Gerda,

Among Bruckner's Weltliche Chorwerke, I see three other possible candidates for a Wikipedia page:

• Volklied, WAB 94, composed in 1882 for a competition für eines sangbares Nationallied (2 settings: for voice and piano, and for men's choir).

• Trösterin Musik, WAB 88, a popular 1886–reissue of Nachruf, WAB 81 —the only Weltliches Chorwerk for which there are a lot (about 30) of recordings.
• Der deutsche Gesang, WAB 63, a patriotic song composed in 1892 for men's choir and brass instruments, short before Helgoland —four recordings, of which one from Austria and 3 from the VS (!).

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 11:50, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Voice type question

Hi Gerda! What is a good reference book on voice types? Does the vocal world differentiate between voice types for soloists and voice types for chorus? I started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera#Is Alto a voice type? (where I thought it would have some good visibility) after I saw some editors battling, and right about now I would like to reach for a reliable source. I'm asking you because you are fairly smart and singer-ish. Cheers, my dear. Prhartcom (talk) 21:37, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

• I thought Gerda was an actual singer, rather than merely singer-ish. Isn't singing your job, Gerda? Curly Turkey ¡gobble! 22:05, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
  • I am an actual amateur choir singer, and I understand that it's contralto in opera vs. alto in concert, and alto may be a man, such as Andreas Scholl. - In German we have "Alt" for female singers in opera and concert, such as Maria Radner, and "Altus" for male singers of the same range. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:43, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
    • Interesting; thanks Gerda, I wish the others from the discussion could have read that. I'll keep looking for a good reference book. Prhartcom (talk) 04:49, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Salve Regina (Pärt)

Harrias ^talk 07:31, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Komm, Gott Schöpfer, Heiliger Geist

Harrias ^talk 11:43, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

For you

Dear Gerda,
Happy Whitsun,
— | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:26, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! I decorated above (as on the Main page). We'll sing the three pieces tomorrow, - celebrating two days ;) - Thanks for archiving the Hafspajen talk, - I decided to start the official missing routing (image, dedicate article, translate article, sigh), but just returned from a trip, - later today unless some merciful relief will be granted by then, - look for Hope above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:35, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Hope is precious and great joy is found in living. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 13:44, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Private Apartments of the Winter Palace

Hello! Your submission of Private Apartments of the Winter Palace at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 02:58, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks!

You know how to brighten a day, thank you. You may also be one of the first to read the whole page (so lentils and rice for you). That was quite a surprise, appreciated (smiley face here, well, okay, three smiley faces!). Randy Kryn 12:57, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

FAC input

Hey Gerda, can you offer some thoughts on the Master of Puppets FA candidature placed here? I notice your name once in a while at classical music nominees, so I thought some contemporary acts might be interesting as well.--Retrohead (talk) 22:08, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Will look, but am busy for the next three weeks ;) - look at Carl Nielsen for FAC, for example, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:26, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Pinniped TFA

Hello, would you like to nominate pinniped for TFA sometime? LittleJerry (talk) 16:10, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Good idea, as soon as my latest proposal is taken, - I "occupy" only one of the four slots at a time, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:13, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Marga Schiml

Harrias ^talk 07:31, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations on your upcoming release from prison

It looks like you might be on parole soon. Alakzi (talk) 16:30, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm not in prison ;) - "Die Gedanken sind frei", and see for the irony of it all, - well, I like Kafka, it helps, The Trial: "it tells the story of a man arrested and prosecuted by a remote, inaccessible authority, with the nature of his crime revealed neither to him nor the reader", - simply true, nothing absurd or surreal. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:21, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Bach Cantatas missing articles

I took the liberty of adding a couple that I know are there, but that we don't have - Joecelyne Taillon and Hildegard Heichele. Both memories of my misspent youth. :-) There are a lot of singers missing, I know, and probably some conductors, so the list can only be expanded. Don't know when I'll be able to do much to help; I've got a lot on my plate for the foreseeable future. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:23, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, I do the same, enter as I notice, those with red links should be bolded, - will go over the cantatas over the liturgical year starting 7 June, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:25, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

I have a concert to sing that weekend. And an international tour to begin rehearsing for soon thereafter. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 17:35, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

I can sing one of my favourite pieces that weekend: Wir danken dir! (Locus iste also) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:02, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Ha. We're looking at singing that on our tour, actually. (Can't remember if we will be or not.) One I've never done - I've done two Bruckner motets, the Virga Jesse and the Os justi, both of which I love. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:26, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

We sing Ave Maria and Christus factus est 9 and 11 ;) - Thanks to Meneerke bloem we have articles on all of these! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for singing the seldom performed Christus factus est, WAB 9 (the graduale of the Messe für den Gründonnerstag). Regrettably you do not sing the "forgotten" WAB 10 (8-voice mixed choir, string quintet and 3 trombones), about which Nowak wrote "One has to value this composition as one of the most expressive and monumental works of Bruckner's sacred music.". You should hear the majestic recording of it by Ricardo Luna, ending a cappella as the Kyrie of the Messe in e-Moll... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:18, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

I believe you, but both eight parts and paying for trombones is not that easy ;) - Just heard a mass by Jan Dismas Zelenka in B minor for Trinity Sunday on radio, astonishing, - the Dona nobis pacem is a fugue similar to Bach's Kyrie I, - and the soprano (beautiful Benedictus aria! - the one who flew in from Prague to rescue our performance, DYK (pictured)! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:36, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Time to celebrate! Montanabw(talk) 05:07, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration motion proposed

Please see [12]. I've proposed a motion that concerns you, and I'm sorry this particular request has sat for so long without action. Courcelles (talk) 08:22, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for a motion. When I noticed "Motion" for the first time - a newbie to arbitration - I thought it meant to set something in motion, so made a suggestion for an infobox for Verdi, did you know? I tried infoboxes for Rigoletto and Don Carlos, Viva-Verdi added those and all other operas by Verdi. Chilling to think of my request last January to add one to Verdi also, - as we now know he was close to death already, otherwise would likely have done it. - In this case "motion" may actually move something. The wording reads as if I disrupted infobox discussions (which I am not aware of doing, ever, - I think I just did things too early, - really nice to see my proposal for Beethoven now in the article), but never mind, I heard worse in my career as an alleged infobox warrior ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

How does this compare to the original restriction? Alakzi (talk) 21:17, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

It's the same, but offers a change in half a year ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:21, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Right, I was wondering what it was that I was missing. Alakzi (talk) 22:46, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

You said "upcoming" ;) - I miss something here. New templates tried in BWV 22 and BWV 165, what do you think? - If you have an idea for the movements, go ahead, - I need sleep, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:56, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

"Sortable" is not a noun. The conductor/choir/orchestra are a bit hard to tell apart at a glance, but I think Rexx is gonna take care of that in due course. Alakzi (talk) 23:01, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

I like the separation of conductor / choir / orchestra in the RexxS sandbox for the general template but think it is not needed for type cantata, especially as choir and orchestra are often one, or one is missing, - would we get two lines then? Will discuss in the template talk.

@Alakzi: It is somewhat different, in that the two-comments-per-discussion rule is gone, and that it allows infobox addition with consensus; or if no one shows up to oppose after three days. And, of course, it disappears automatically in six months. Courcelles (talk) 23:42, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Oh whoops, I should've definitely noticed that the two-comment clause is gone. Thanks, Courcelles. Alakzi (talk) 23:51, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

What I would prefer is the two comments restriction for everybody, seriously, which I said in my capitulation amendment request. I would also like counter voices to be discarded which only mention dislike or redundancy or "doesn't add to the article". Every infobox is redundant by concept, and adds to the article, only some spectators do not see how. (For those who didn't watch it all, in a nutshell: I was against infoboxes in 2012 but learned that much in half a year.) I am not planning to go from article to article , - waste of time as the whole case was, but I keep learning - patience ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:51, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Andreas Tscherning

Thanks from me and the project Victuallers (talk) 20:47, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Keqrops

Your help is appreciated Victuallers (talk) 09:02, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Next pages on Bruckner's Weltliche Chorwerke?

Dear Gerda,

I am intended to created pages on a few other Weltliche Chorwerke:

• Trösterin Musik, WAB 88, the popular second setting of the "forgotten" Nachruf, WAB 81, with about 30 recordings
• the Volkslied, WAB 94, composed for a contest with 1,320 (!) candidates
• Der deutsche Gesang, WAB 63 (1892), an "intermediate step" between the patriotic Germanenzug and Helgoland

and perhaps also

• the "odd" Abendzauber, WAB 57,
• Das hohe Lied, WAB 74. Unfortunately there is no recording available of this semi-cantata.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 12:08, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Carolin Widmann

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:17, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Störmthal

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:31, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Ernst Pepping

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:32, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Congratulations on TFA!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:28, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. It's about teaching and learning as a mutual experience, as you may have seen, - a lot of talk during FAC devoted to that image, almost as in Carl Nielsen. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:33, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Nic/k

... that Nic(k)odemus made the Main Page twice today? You've been busy! Sca (talk) 13:02, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Also two Bach cantatas, BWV 194, - anybody welcome to add the infobox I can't ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

PS: Is this what they mean when they say Hals- und Beinbruch? Sca (talk) 14:14, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Oh no! It's pure irony, mostly said before going on stage, then also to exams and such things, - like the advice to take an umbrella to make sure it will not rain. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:52, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Ich hätte einer grinsenden Smileyface schrieben sollen – war bloß 'ne Witze!

(As you may know, we say "break a leg!" too – or at least we used to.) Sca (talk) 21:30, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

No, didn't know that, learning, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:35, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Nachruf / Trösterin Musik

Beste Gerda,

I am now drafting the page Nachruf, WAB 81 (original composition with one strophe), which was reissued 9 years later with another text (2 strophes) as Trösterin Musik, WAB 88.

Both issues of the song are put after each other as No. 28a and 28b in Band XXII of the Gesamtausgabe. There is no recording as yet of Nachruf, but about 30 recordings of Trösterin Musik —the most often recorded of Bruckner's Weltliche Chorwerke!

What should I do with the text? Should I put the text of both issues? Please advise.

Beste Grüße, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:24, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

I have just created the page Nachruf, WAB 81 and a redirect to it for "Trösterin Musik, WAB 88". OK so?

I am waiting for your advice whether to insert or not the text used in the two issues of the song.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:46, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Link to it! Will look. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:53, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Good, thank you! - Any idea to improve the translation of "Trösterin Musik"? - "Consolation music" sounds like "music to console", but we should get that Music is a female persona who consoles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:58, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

"Trösterin Musik" could perhaps be translated to "Comforting Music" or "Music, the comforter"?
Have you any idea about the insertion of the text?

The original text (Nachruf) is:

Vereint bist, Töneheld und Meister, Mit jener hohen Schar der Geister, Die hier schon höh'res Dasein führen, Weil sie der Tonwelt Geist erspüren. Du hast aus buntem Tongewühle Gar oft in freiem Orgelspiele Mit Kunst gelenkt die Melodien Zu andachtsvollen Harmonien. Drum mag's im Orgelstrome brausen Und heut in Sturmakkorden sausen: Vergessen bleibst du nie hiernieden; Du gabst uns Kunst, nun ruh' in Frieden!

The text of Trösterin Musik is:

Musik! Du herrliches Gebilde, voll hoher Macht, voll süßer Milde, wir fühlen doppelt tief dein Walten, wenn uns ein Leid das Herz gespalten. Der Schmerzenswogen wirres Drängen, es glättet sich vor deinen Klängen, besänftigt all die Fluten ziehen ins weite Meer der Harmonien. Wie Orgelton, wie Meereswogen kommt dann der Trost ins Herz gezogen und stillt der Seele wildes Sehnen und löst das Weh in milden Tränen. Musik! Du himmlisches Gebilde, voll hoher Macht, voll süßer Milde, du pochst noch in den tiefsten Schmerzen mit leisem Finger an die Herzen. Und wenn die Seele, gramgebrochen, kein Wort mehr hört, das Trost gesprochen, wenn längst verstummt die stillen Klagen im Leid, das tränenlos getragen: Dann fühlt das Herz in Orgeltönen ein hehres, himmlisches Versöhnen und findet in dem Klang der Lieder den letzten Trost, die Tränen wieder.

There is no recording of Nachruf, there are about 30 recordings of Trösterin Musik and several videos of it on YouTube...
Please advise. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 11:53, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

I suggest you simply add the texts, for those who can read German, and give a summary of the content, without trying to translate the poems. I like "Music, the Comforter" but English can't say easily that it is a woman, naturally ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:01, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

As you know (?), in French it is also a "woman". It would be Musique, la Consolatrice. I will add the texts tomorrow and see for an "expanded summary" or some translation of them, explaining in particular why the song begins a cappella and the organ is added "organo pleno" with pedal on bar 31.

I wish you a peaceful evening evening, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 20:21, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, - as if you knew that we started rehearsing Fauré's Requiem ;) - after that I can't translate the German song,

Despite Fauré was "not-practicing" and, as organist, he did not had access to an large orchestra, his Requiem is a beautiful and deeply religious work, which I like very much. About 50 years ago (I was 15 or so) I already had the LP of it by André Cluytens. At our school's Knabenchor we sung the Introit and the Pie Jesu. Enjoy it! --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 08:04, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

I enjoyed once, organ version, next will be the first instrumentation: violas, etc, harp, organ, - solo violin only in the Sanctus, what a great idea! We debate if we will afford a timpanist for the little (but important) work, rests for most of the time, - right, Tim? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:15, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration motion regarding the Infoboxes arbitration case

The Arbitration Committee has resolved by motion that:

I) Remedy 3.2 of the Infoboxes case is suspended.

II) For a six-month period Gerda Arendt may not add or restore, except for the usual exemptions, an Infobox to any article she did not create, without first either a) obtaining a clear consensus to do so on the article talkpage, or b) her proposal on the article talk page attracting no comments for 72 hours.

III) During this six-month period, she must not, in the opinion of a consensus of administrators at the Arbitration Enforcement noticeboard, disrupt any discussion concerning infoboxes.

IV) Gerda Arendt may be blocked for violation of parts II and III. Any such block shall cause remedy 3.2 to be unsuspended; if this is done, the blocking administrator must make the committee aware.

V) If after six months Gerda Arendt has not been blocked under this motion, remedy 3.2 as well as this motion shall automatically lapse.

For the Arbitration Committee, --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 20:24, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Arbitration motion regarding the Infoboxes arbitration case

Thanks for support, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

• Hi Gerda Arendt, in accordance with this I have updated the entry at WP:EDR. At the conclusion of the six months, ping me or another editor to remove the entry. Thanks, --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 20:35, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the implied optimism! Good news on the day with TFA and two DYK, all with an infobox, naturally ;) - I will update the infobox of my user, perhaps with the date, - my memory is not to be trusted ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:55, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Beethoven

Was he in Indian postage stamp?. Cosmic Emperor (talk) 14:07, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

I don't know, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:08, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Gone, thanks to Michael Bednarek, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:26, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Der deutsche Gesang, WAB 63

Beste Gerda,

The next page Der deutsche Gesang is created. I have added a —hopefully not to bad— translation of the text.
As you can see, there are four recordings of the song, of which one from Austria and three from the US (amazing !?!).

Is it OK for you?

Beste Grüße, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 19:17, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Statz Friedrich von Fullen

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:32, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Charivari (Gruber)

Hello! Your submission of Charivari (Gruber) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 20:36, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Double S

Gerda, what's the rule / practice regarding use of ß on English WP (in articles about German subjects)? This isn't very helpful. Thanks. Sca (talk) 14:16, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I don't live by rules but trial and error. - Some think ss can be substituted for ß - wrong. Swiss texts have no ß - easy. "All capital" has no ß but SS - that's how we got to ship names such as "Friedrich der Grosse" (names on ships are typically all capital) which looks gross to Germans and gets the pronunciation wrong, but can be defended by "it's like that in the majority of sources in English". - If I write German (names and text) on the English Wikipedia), I use it, and in Bach's cantatas it's used in places where the latest orthography reform would not have it any more, - but keeping it can be defended by the same argument. - More questions? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:26, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Ooops! Sorry I put this on your user page, by mistake.

My question concerns place names that formerly were written with ß – specifically, a town in Upper Silesia now called Kamień Śląski, which formerly was called Groß Stein. The English entry is just a stub, but on German WP it's written Groß Stein referring to before WWII, and Gross Stein referring to an alternate-language (non-Polish) version of the town name apparently recently accepted (by Poland) because there's still a German minority there.

Actually, my question stems from editing Hyazinth Graf Strachwitz von Groß-Zauche und Camminetz, who was born in Groß Stein and whose gloriereiche noble name also is spelled two ways (ß and ss) in the article. (!)

My inclination is to simply use ss in all cases (as is done at Meissen), since ß does not appear in English. However, I wonder if place names and personal names might be a different situation than generic words ... maybe? Sca (talk) 20:43, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Having read the links associated with the one you initially posted, I believe the resolution was to use the double-s for article titles on the english wikipedia, but to include the ß character parentethically. For your example, "Gross Stein" as the article title, with "Gross Stein (German: Groß Stein)" appearing in the lede. Scr★pIron^IV 20:53, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I think there was a time when English keyboards didn't have the symbol. Those who write Meissen probably also say Dusseldorf and Hanover, - while I would say Meißen, Düsseldorf and Hannover. - Not even the mentioned orthography reform changed groß to gross, - the former with a long vowel, the other would be a short vowel, - while it changed daß to dass, because almost nobody pronounced it with a long vowel. - I would try to go for Kamień Śląski (German: Groß Stein), because Gross is not German, - the infobox has it ;) - same for the person, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Forgive me, I was not trying to single out that article; I was merely pointing out the consensus from 2005. Unfortunately, US keyboards still don't have ß; I need to use code (ALT+0223) to get it. Certainly, english speakers have had to modify many words which are foreign to us, and we would not claim that our spelling is "correct" - just that it is ours. I remember being quite confused decades ago when trying to find my train to Vienna; "Wien" did not match my itinerary, and I had become separated from my fellow students... Imagine the joy for someone who spoke no German at the time :-D But, I have since lived, and learned.

English Wikipedia should certainly include ß in the article, and in redirects, and disambiguations. The only point I think the earlier (2005) consensus was trying to make was that the most likely searches for english users of the english site would be the anglicized versions of German words, and should be the default article title. Additionally, that the proper German spelling should be pointed out in the article itself, as prominently as feasible. Scr★pIron^IV 21:32, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I think search functions find both article name and redirects, - that would not require changes to names. No question - I think - that the article name of a place now in Poland should be Polish. - I can have tons of special characters here, but forgot how, something in the preferences. - Some places actually changed name in history, that should also be pointed out, like the official name of former Halle an der Saale is now Halle (Saale). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

So Hyazinth Graf Strachwitz von Groß-Zauche und Camminetz should remain Hyacinth Graf Strachwitz von Groß-Zauche, etc., not be changed to Hyazinth Graf Strachwitz von Gross-Zauche? Sca (talk) 00:06, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

I've just read this discussion. Sca, I'm confused by your question. Why would you suggest using English spelling for her first name (Hyacinth) and German spelling for her last name (von Groß-Zauche), as opposed to not changing her name to the German spelling for her first name (Hyazinth) and English spelling for her last name (von Gross-Zauche)? Am I missing something? CorinneSD (talk) 00:42, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

A revision. She's a he & his name is Hyazinth. Someone apparently had reverted it to the English spelling of the flower, a mistake. I'm trying to deal with it. Sca (talk) 12:50, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

• See this talk, if you're interested. Sca (talk) 13:42, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Firstly, it's a man. Secondly, we get to a different problem: the names of nobility. For normal people, this person would be commonly known as Hyazinth von Strachwitz in German. I wrote only one of those, Tatiana von Metternich-Winneburg, - perhaps ask others - as I did for her - because see line one, I am not sure of the rules. - If all this location stuff is part of his name, it should certainly not be changed, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:41, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Is there a discussion or wiki-guideline anywhere - either in English or German wiki - on what we should be doing about the Rechtschreibung "(?)fiasco" of 1996? I know English people find it odd that a government should presume to "own" a language but in Germany, Netherlands, France .... Anyhow, as far as I remember the reforms moved towards some Swiss solutions. One or two rules of spelling were "simplified" (ho ho) and for most purposes "ß" became "ss". However, the reforms were not accepted without a fight, and where it's all got to right now I'm not sure. Language teachers hated the reforms, of course, for the reason that "officially" their younger pupils who had learned the language recently were spelling the "right" way while the teachers were still spelling the old "wrong" way without thinking too much about it. I think the FAZ refused to play ball and went on using the old orthography. BUT, depending a little on where we've got to with acceptance or rejection of the reforms - eg by contributors on German wiki who presumably, like most of the rest of us wiki contributors, thought they'd learned to spell as far as they were ever going to way before 1996 - maybe there's scope for wiki-guidance on new vs old spelling and when to do what. Or maybe the discussion has already been had ... somewhere ..., and with conclusions....? (I tend, without thinking too hard about it, simply to apply the spelling I find in sources where I can.) Sorry if this is, potentially, a digression too far for your discussions here. It's just something that I realise I've been wondering about since .... a long time. Regards Charles01 (talk) 06:03, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

The article is German orthography reform of 1996. I swallowed it in disgust and still refuse to use certain words ;) - I wrote an article about a person who actively opposed it, Hans Krieger. - A newspaper subtitled the news: "From now on you can write as you think you will be understood" (my translation) and turned to it only much later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:13, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Gerda. Yes, the German orthography reform of 1996 entry is helpful, and the talk page behind it is rather fun. As for wiki guide-lines on the subject, yes, "... write as you think you will be understood" seems to be where we're at: could be a whole lot worse. Thanks for the Hans Krieger entry. Sounds like my kinda guy, albeit rather smarter than I'll ever be! The best Charles01 (talk) 08:06, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

I met him once when he appeared as a librettist of a song cycle, and I listened to Martina Koppelstetter, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:49, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Bruckner's Volkslied, WAB 94

Dear Gerda,

The next page (Bruckner's Volkslied, WAB 94) is created.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:51, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Literally Volkslied is folksong, but Volk is people, - tricky. I have my difficulties with the national pride ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:13, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I hope you people realize that your mentioning this interesting music is costing me money! WAB94 is now my top priority listening for tomorrow's early morning bus ride. Thanks guys! DBaK (talk) 21:55, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Something different?

You can probably bring this up to DYK standard in short order if you'd like a break from opera articles. Alakzi (talk) 18:14, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your trust but I am busy, want this for GA (comments on the table welcome, put some questions on the template talk) and have a holiday tomorrow, - last opera was last year, I believe, singers yes, - I have a list on my user page ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:24, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I have replied on the template talk page. Alakzi (talk) 20:22, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, makes sense. - Have a look at a musical table, - do you know {{sortname}}, - I left a question on the talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

OK, that was not obvious at all; I've replied there. Table looks good. Alakzi (talk) 22:55, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK nom for Chromatic Fantasia and Fugue

Hi, I just reviewed the article and proposed an alternate at Template:Did you know nominations/Chromatic Fantasia and Fugue. BenLinus1214^talk 23:29, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Chromatic Fantasia and Fugue

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:07, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Translations

Dear Gerda,

Since I am neither German- nor English-speaking, I would be very grateful if you could find some time for reviewing my (hopefully no too bad) translations of Der deutsche Gesang, WAB 63, Nachruf, WAB 81 and Volkslied, WAB 94.

Many thanks in advance, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 10:56, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Later today, traveling, - I think I did Nachruf already? - Would you have an image of on organ instead of the melacholic spirit? Most of the text speaks of his wild organ playing ;) - Please see if you find something more suitable for the above composition than the one I suggested on the talk, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:10, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

You indeed have reviewed the translation of Nachruf-self, but not yet that of the 1st strophe of Trösterin Musik, which I have added today.

I have replaced the picture of Nachruf by a picture of an organ, which I took some years ago. I will look for other pictures too for the two other pages. Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 12:03, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

FYI: Next Monday I will be again at Hans Roelofs'.

Pictures changed, also that of Germanenzug. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:29, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Abendzauber, WAB 57

Dear Gerda,

I have just created Abendzauber, WAB 57, a beautifule song, of which an excellent performance is available on YouTube. I will make later a translation of the text.

Beste regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 12:49, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Nice. Would you find an image of a little later in the evening, to match "Waldesdunkel"? - For discographies, consider to use {{Classical discography row}}, - how do you like my table of concerts, to be celebrated tomorrow? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:00, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

I have replaced the picture by Wolfgangsee - Evening, an other Austria mountain lake (Salzburger Land) in the evening. OK so?

For using the {{Classical discography row}} for the motets, the songs, etc., I have a problem, because the CD contains sometimes pieces of several composers. It is the case for all the items mentioned for Abendzauber. How can I solve this issue? Please advise. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 10:26, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Imagine Locus iste with the orchestra (3 trumpets, timpani and strings) re-enforcing the voices - Bruckner would have liked it, I believe ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:04, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Hyazinth Graf Strachwitz

Gerda, I'm wondering what to do about MisterBee1966 's intransigence re "Hyazinth." Do you think I should request arbitration? If so, do you know where & how to do that? Or should I just go ahead and change it again to Hyazinth, then if Mr. B reverts complain of edit warring at WP:ANB?

Obviously, it's not a big issue, so maybe I shouldn't make a big deal out of it? But it bugs me that Mr. B is so pigheaded about such an little thing. Sca (talk) 22:21, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

PS: I got into this dispute because I'm reading Buttar's Between Giants: The Battle for the Baltics. It's absolutely incredible what went on in that (to us) obscure region in WWII. Sca (talk) 22:21, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

I would not expect anything from arbitration, especially not on content matters. WP:RfC perhaps? Talk to projects, such as WP:MILHIST? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:29, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

I was going to take your advice and try WP:RfC, but found a new comment on the talk page that seemed to make sense. I'd prefer to get this settled without a brouhaha. Sca (talk) 14:29, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Stepping up for what is right

note to self --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:17, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Ah! perfido

Thanks for this article Victuallers (talk) 07:47, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Quick requests

Hi Gerda, could you update the German article about the Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue to note that Jaco Pastorius's electric bass transcription comes from his 1981 album Word of Mouth (corresponding German article)? My German is limited to "ja" and "nein" and a few other random bits and pieces. If you could, I'd also appreciate it if you can approve my edit to the album article over there. Thanks! Graham87 11:59, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

I've made a few other changes to that article since I wrote that message, but I don't think they're as important to transfer across because they don't involve links. Graham87 13:33, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

I will, later, - thanks for the improvements! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:24, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of St. Martin, Idstein

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Your GA nomination of Die Elenden sollen essen, BWV 75

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Translation Abendzauber

Beste Gerda,

I have added a (hopefully not too bad) translation of the text, and also some precisions about the musical setting. Please have a look on it.

Danke vielmals für deine Hilfe, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:43, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the improvement of my translation!

PS: As I previously wrote, another (last?) candidate would be Das hohe Lied, WAB 74, a 84-bar long work in A-flat major for humming men's choir, and 2 tenor and baritone soloists, composed in 1876. In 1879 Bruckner made a second setting of it with strings (2 violas, cello and double bass) and brass (4 horns, 3 trombones and tuba). Unfortunately there is as yet no recording of this work. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 10:58, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Vilhelm Andersen

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:17, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Valdemar Tofte

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:25, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Carl Nielsen Catalogue

For the Carl Nielsen works, I really think it would be useful to replace the "Scores" column by "CNW Number"", perhaps with a footnote explaining what it means. For the time being, I have simply included it at the top of the ELs. I have suggested this more than once but for some reason you do not seem too keen to include it. Maybe if you go through the first few CNWs, you'll see how useful it can be. It should be really easy to add these to your table although for some compositions more than one will be required (e.g. for the various songs in a given work). If you like, I could do some of the editing but I don't want to start on anything until you agree to the approach.--Ipigott (talk) 08:55, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

I agree, absolutely, next step, - let me finish the (few) missing FS nos (no 135?), then I will change the header, make a sample and leave it to you for a while, RL, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:10, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

I have now CNW in the header and started with Tre Motetter, a plain link. If you think we should add the numbers (here: 354–347), go ahead, but I don't see why, it seems rather internal. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:15, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

I can see that listing more than one CNW might cause problems with the sorting. But for those interested in the scores, they could be useful. Anyway, for the moment I'll only include one per work. Maybe you can extend the intro with an explanation of the CNWs (unless you want to use a footnote). I'll try to make a start but I've only about half an hour more today.--Ipigott (talk) 15:05, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

First question: Is there a need to show the CNW number and sort by it? If yes, we can sort by one per row even if we list several. - Look at St. Martin, Idstein, in the table of concerts sort by composer: for concerts with more than one, it sorts by the one specified by template sortname. - For a piece like Tre Motetter, I think it is enough to link to the set, which in turn has the links to the three motets. - Can you word the explanation? Better in the intro than a footnotes No rush ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:17, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Personally, I cannot see any reason to sort by CNWs. Once people access the CNW catalogue, they can see them in numerical order from 1 to 429 (or whatever). I see you have been adding links to each one. I actually hesitated to do this as two or three years ago I had all the works in the Carl Nielsen article nicely linked to the Carl Nielsen Edition. But the Danish Royal Library decided to change their approach and none of them worked any more. It took ages to restore them to what had become PDF files! On the other hand, the links do direct people to what they want to find without going through other search tools. Is it actually kosher to link directly from tables in this way (i.e. without refs)? I'm sure someone will come along and tell us to delete them all. I'm impressed (impressed is the word of the day) how quickly you've been able to add so many CNWs and links (while I've been making the supper). I'll add an explanation tomorrow, after a good night's sleep.--Ipigott (talk) 16:47, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Links to such basic info from a trusted source have been in tables for a long time, compare List of Bach cantatas with links to the free scores. You can possible explain that all these links are within the one website given already. - If someone wants them deleted, no problem, - but why? - its easy to add, as they are all created equal: the link contains the number in a four-digit-pattern, you copy the line and change only the two numbers. - I stop now at all rows with an article have one, - anybody can do the rest ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Not as logical as you might think. This is a Danish site, not German (like Bach). Just looked at "Der er et yndigt land" and found the url was pointing to a completely different piece and had to be changed. Will check all the others tomorrow. Schlaf gut! --Ipigott (talk) 21:02, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Die Elenden sollen essen, BWV 75

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You Made My Day!

:-)

--Wapiti 21:55, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

I like men listening to their wife ;) - You with so much white space, look above to see where you can actually improve Nielsen: links to the CNW entries from the works. Ipigott will check tomorrow ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Stallerhof

Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 11:35, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Future ping

Gerda, I'm going to email you soon about ... what else ... Bach cantatas. I'm preparing what I expect will be a substantial journal article on Bach's style, which will involve analytical modelling. Tony (talk) 08:20, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Great. My goal is at least one GA for every occasion of the liturgical year, - made it for the first two Sundays after Trinity (BWV 75, BWV 39, BWV 76), but will probably not achieve 3 days of Pentecost. Du meine Seele singe, - or with a comma, which is correct grammar but not historic? - Sources differ. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Schon gewusst?

• Das Bachporträt aus dem Nachlass des Musikwissenschaftlers William H. Scheide wird im Juni 2015 erstmals in Leipzig gezeigt.

Sca (talk) 13:37, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Klar, schon gewusst, ich bin da manchmal zu Besuch, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:05, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Das hohe Lied, WAB 74

Beste Gerda,

I have just created the page Das hohe Lied, WAB 74. Please have look on it and do not hesitate to improve my translation of the German text.

Beste Grüße, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:41, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Other candidates?

There are three other songs in the same vein: Mitternacht, WAB 80, Um Mitternacht, WAB 89, and Um Mitternacht, WAB 90. All three can be heard on YouTube. See Bruckner's Weltliche Chorwerke.

In their first issue (Universal Edition, 1911) Viktor Keldorfer wrote "Das Zaubrische der Mondscheinpoesie scheint Bruckners sensibele Natur ganz besonders gefangen genommen zu haben. Im Bann solch traumhaft mystischer Stimmungen schuf er drei Mitternachts-Chöre".

I think that they are also good candidates for a Wikipedia page. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 08:18, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Dietrich Henschel

That one "kills a few birds with one stone" as the saying goes! Thanks for emboldening the ones as I suggested, I just noticed! You may want to source and DYK nom. BTW, I think we should have an article on Kiel Opera House, it's currently a redirect to an American one. We should have an article on this.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:42, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

I fixed the bad link, anything else next week, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:29, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

I wonder if we need disambiguation, the name of the American house was Kiel Opera House before, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:31, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Also started Jochen Kupfer , I guess I'll have to source them! Kupfer looks what I call "annoyingly handsome" LOL. Looks like a Horst Buccholtz or Maximilian Schell classic Hollywood matinee type doesn't he [13]♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:13, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes ;) - but see below about priority, - another job for you perhaps, please watch for GAN, should come sometime today, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:18, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

I'm sure you'll have no trouble promoting it, you're getting the hang of it now!...♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:44, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Um Mitternacht, WAB 89

Dear Gerda,

I have created the page on the first setting of Um Mitternacht (WAB 89). I will later add an attempt of English translation of Prutz' text.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:06, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Attempt of translation added. Plaese review it. Thanks in advance, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:52, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much for reviewing my translation. Could you also have a look on that of Das hohe Lied?

I will now create a page on the second, less popular setting on the same text (WAB 90), which Bruckner composed 20 years later.

And thereafter, last but not least, a page on the third song in the same line, i.e., the popular Mitternacht, WAB 80, which Bruckner composed in-between. Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 19:05, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, interesting. Perhaps it might be mentioned that "Das Hohelied" means "Song of Songs", possibly an intentional allusion, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:03, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks again! I have added the following at the end of the History:

Note

Das Hohelied is the German name of the Song of Songs. Possibly an intentional allusion?

OK so? --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 08:59, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

I moved it, fine, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:15, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

You make me happy!

♥ --Wapiti (talk) 21:14, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Article request, director Philippe Arlaud

Gerda, I know you are super busy but if you could knock off a quick translation of Philippe Arlaud when you have time I would appreciate it. Best.4meter4 (talk) 00:37, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

I will put it on my unwritten list which has BWV 21 first, premiered 17 June, - I would like to have it GA by then and DYK on Sunday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:30, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

GAN done for the above, sources compiled (not yet harv), music section still needs to be written, please check the rest, merciful volunteer ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Um Mitternacht, WAB 90 and Mitternacht, WAB 80

Beste Gerda,

For your info: I have just created Um Mitternacht, WAB 90. No problem of translation... I will later create the popular Mitternacht, WAB 80, which is quite similar to Um Mitternacht, WAB 89, but with another text.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 11:41, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Mitternacht, WAB 80 is created too. The translation of the text will follow later today. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:30, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

I have added an attempt for translation to Mitternacht, WAB 80. Please have a look on it. Many thanks in advance, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 15:18, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Next candidates?

Thanks for your review. I think that the most representative Weltliche Chöre have now a Wikipedia page. There are still a few other nice songs, e.g., two songs of the St. Florian period:

• Ständchen, WAB 84 (with humming voices): a single recording by Kerbl, Done
• Sternschnuppen, WAB 85: a few recordings, of which only one really good: Mancusi. There was a good recording on YouTube, but it has been recently put as "private" and is thus not more publicly available.

I do therefore not think that they are good candidates for a Wikipedia page. Let me please know whether you share this point of view. Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:59, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Agree, but nothing wrong with stubs ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:08, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Other candidates?

In the same line, there are, e.g., three such candidates of the Linz period:

• Der Abendhimmel (I), WAB 55: recordings by Mancusi and Kerbl Done
• Herbstlied, WAB 73: for men's choir and 2 soprano soloists, recorded by Kerbl Done
• Der Abendhimmel (II), WAB 56: recordings by Mancusi, Kerbl and Schumacher, and perhaps also a few other -by Hans not yet acquired- recordings (not sure whether they are WAB 55 or WAB 56) Done

and, e.g., also two such candidates of the Vienna period:

• Sängerbund, WAB 82 (a patriotic Liedertafel song): three times recorded by A. Nagy for the 100th anniversary of Bruckner's death
• Träumen und Wachen, WAB 87 (with humming voices): recordings by Mancusi and Kerbl.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:55, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Private Apartments of the Winter Palace

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:57, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

RfC: Religion in infoboxes of nations

There is an RfC that you may be interested in at Template talk:Infobox country#RfC: Religion in infoboxes of nations. Please join us and help us to determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 14:10, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you and done, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:50, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Ständchen, WAB 84, Der Abendhimmel, WAB 55 and WAB 56

Dear Gerda,

The page on the next song, Ständchen, is created. Please have a look on it, as well as my translation of the German text.

Have a fine day! --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:56, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I have just created Der Abendhimmel (first setting). The translation of the German text will follow, as well a page on its second setting. Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:54, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

The second setting of Der Abendhimmel WAB 56 is created. Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 10:53, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! There must be a better term for sing-society, - perhaps look at German articles and see how they are translated. I don't know quite-point, would not even know "quiet point", - why not "rest" - as the linked article says? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I will look for improving it. In the meantime I have added an attempt translation of the German text of Der Abendhimmel, WAB 55. Please have a look on it. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 12:10, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

done before you asked --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Could you please also have a look on my translation of Ständchen, WAB 84? --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 12:28, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Percy Grainger

Just so that you understand the position; the decision not to run Grainger as TFA was not in any way aimed at you. The number of classical music FAs that have yet to appear on the main page, as a proportion of the available total, suggests that we should run about six of these a year as TFA; by that calculation we have already used up this year's allocation! What that means is that we should restrict nominations of classical music articles to cases where there is a notable date relevance – a significant anniversary, say, or a date generally associated with music such as St Cecilia's Day. With that in mind I will probably defer Noye's Fludde to St Swithin's Day next year, as there may be better date relations in the second part of the year.

As to L'Arianna, as you know I originally dumped this to make space for your O heilges Geist- und Wasserbad, and I had no particular intention of running it this year. Then, it was used as a means of saving the 9 June slot for Nielsen, and when that was promoted it was dumped again. It was Chris's decision to run it later in the month, and as he had been very cooperative in the Nielsen arrangements, I didn't like to ask to move it again. Grainger and the Flood will keep until next year, no harm done.

Thank you anyway for your sharp eye in picking up these articles. Your commitment to the music side of the encyclopaedia has never been in doubt. Brianboulton (talk) 15:31, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for coming over, appreciated, - I already moved Grainger to 2017 in my notepad ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:03, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ich hatte viel Bekümmernis, BWV 21

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Article request, director Philippe Arlaud

Gerda, I know you are super busy but if you could knock off a quick translation of Philippe Arlaud when you have time I would appreciate it. Best.4meter4 (talk) 00:37, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

I will put it on my unwritten list which has BWV 21 first, premiered 17 June, - I would like to have it GA by then and DYK on Sunday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:30, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

GAN done for the above, sources compiled (not yet harv), music section still needs to be written, please check the rest, merciful volunteer ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

GA now, - after work on the next - BWV 7 - I will look at this, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:08, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Started a stub, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:23, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Herbstlied, WAB 73

Dear Gerda,

The next Bruckner-page (the romantic Herbstlied, WAB 73) is created. I will translate the German text later.

Hopefully, I will become soon "autopatroller", as I already am on Commons, and the French and German Wikipedia (I am not "autopatroller" on the Dutch Wikipedia, but my edits are since long no more patrolled), ... so that, as I read yesterday, "you will no more grumble because you have to review my new edits" (Lol!).

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:31, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

I hope you followed to me correcting "grumble" to that I trust you, seriously! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:47, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Nice Lied! You might want to add a bit (generally speaking) to the lead, such as for what voices, for those who don't want to look at the infobox.

I wrote it humouristic. Of course, I fully appreciate our fine collaboration and your critical reviews!

I will let you know when I have added an attempt of translation.

As you suggest, I will add some more text in the lead. It is really a fine lied, the first and third strophes are sung a little bit as a march (walking in the forest). On the contrary, the second and fourth strophes with the soloists are smoother and lyrical (listening to the nightingales and looking at the sky and the stars).

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 11:06, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

I just have added "romantic" to the first sentence of the lead, and added the following sentence: "The song, scored for men's choir and two soprano soloists, figures an autumn walking with nightingale songs." OK so? --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 11:16, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for asking but no need to, just change, I watch ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:19, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Attempt of translation added. Please do not hesitate to improve it. Thanks, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:01, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Even when you understand a text, it is not always obvious to translate it... Thank you for improving my translation. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:34, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ich hatte viel Bekümmernis, BWV 21

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Sternschnuppen, WAB 85‎

Dear Gerda,

I have just created Sternschnuppen. An attempt for a translation of the difficult German text will follow next week...

Have a fin late evening! --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 19:36, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know that "Sternschnuppe"" means "shooting star". I did not know this word in German (well the French name "étoile filante" and the Dutch "vallende ster")... I think that I now better understand the German text of the song. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 10:22, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

PS: I have changed the picture accordingly. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 11:36, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

I have just added an attempt to translation of the "softish romantic" German text. Please review it. Thanks in advance for it, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:42, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Tried, a tough one ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:56, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! I found it too not easy to translate... I will perhaps revert "the lyre" (constellation) to "Lyra" (see Lyra). --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:09, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

I see, Lyra meaning constellation, I missed that starry connection, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Question: Will everyone understand that "Philomene" means "the nightingale" ? --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:37, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

No, good point, linked now ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Perfect so (I did not realise that "Philomene" was named "Philomela" on the English Wikipedia). --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:46, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Nor did I - I searched ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

ps: What do you think about this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:52, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

I fully agree with your position, i.e., as you write "an infobox, showing at a glance time and location of the topic". --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:12, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Would you say so there, mentioning Bruckner's masses? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:42, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

I would say in the particular case, using the example of infobox, which you have added to this talk page, instead of the not representative picture of Nikolaus II Esterhazy, which is currently on page. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 19:04, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Don't tell me, say it there ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:15, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that, just a bit late: it's already on ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:39, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

FYI: New on YouTube, a live performance by the Schwuler Männerchor Zürich: Sternschnuppen, WAB 85. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:14, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Jesus und Nikodemus

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Your GA nomination of St. Martin, Idstein

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A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Well this is mainly for all your work with the Pumpkin sky prize, it makes the real jewel around here. Also thanks for the encouragement you've shown me, I'm always touched... --Jules (Mrjulesd) 20:29, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

My day today, it seems: a new GA, lead image on DYK, + this! - Did you already smile at the irony on Cassianto's page? - Likewise: every time I see your name something sensible gets done, like closing another waste of time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for that! Well I'm glad that you had a good day! Well it goes without saying that your contributions here are huge, but I've a special place in my heart for people that nurture and encourage, to me but also to so many others. All my best wishes --Jules (Mrjulesd) 10:59, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

I feel understood - and will place this star under "blushing", although I didn't blush this time ;) - Encouragement; did you know that I worded a DYK about that (article not by me) and used it, not always successfully so, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:25, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

Dear Gerda,

I am happy too, because it proves that the administrators of the English site also trust my contributions. It is a good stimulant for my further contributions.

Have a fine day! --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:49, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

As I said: I trust you, and am happy that the English Wikipedia agrees ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:02, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Holger Gilbert-Jespersen

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 15:46, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Sängerbund, WAB 82

Dear Gerda,

I have just created my first page as "autopatrolled": Sängerbund.

If you can find time for it, please review my attempt for translation of the German text. Thanks in advance, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 10:47, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

PS: I will now write a page of the last representative song of the Vienna period: Träumen und Wachen, WAB 87, composed in 1890. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 10:50, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Träumen und Wachen, WAB 87

Dear Gerda,

Träumen und Wachen, WAB 87 is created. I will later translate the German text.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:41, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Nice! I would add template lang to the German text but am busy. I trust that you can do it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:45, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

I will check it when I will add my attempt to translation. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:18, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Dear Gerda, I have tried to translate the German text. Could you please have a look on it? Thanks, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:05, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

I looked and ended in edit conflict, killing cruelly what you did last, - was so happy to have finished ;) - Seriously: is there a full stop at the end of the first stanza? It would make sense if the thought continued, - if love and good deeds were also true. (As it is, it makes no sense, sorry Mr. Grillparzer.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:16, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

My only source is the text I found in the link "text" on Hans' webpage], where the first strophe ends with a full stop. A comma would indeed be more appropriate... I will change it. Thanks again, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:34, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

You and I making Grillparzer's poetry work, - lovely ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:37, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

A full stop is well logical at the end of the song, i.e., when the first strophe is repeated... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:40, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

It is, but then we have the "true thought" of what it implied, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:48, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

I have found the original text of Grillparzer. It is a full stop... See: end of Act I on Franz Grillparzer: Der Traum ein Leben, Erster Aufzug. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 15:49, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Full nonsense then ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:51, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

You possibly saw it on your watchlist: in {{infobox musical composition}} you can now add a parameter "type = ", which will appear right under the title before the composer, - I filled example Locus iste and trust that you can fill others which need it (because of German or Latin text that might need help). It's optional! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Which "type" would I add in this particular case? Weltliches Chor, Song ... Please advise.--Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:11, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Which? I don't know if we have anything here like Chorlied. Song is not wrong although I think Lied when I hear song. - Saying nothing is also not wrong ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:17, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Lied is normally only for voice and piano. When I look for Chorlied on the German Wikipedia it redirects to Chormusik, in which indeed Bruckner is mentioned. When I look for a synonym on the English Wikipedia, i.e., Choral music, it redirects to Choir... I find it well a too general concept. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:52, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Leave it open then, - the lead says something. Discuss at Classical music perhaps? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:00, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps "Secular choir", which is a translation of the currently used "Weltliches Chorwerk"? I have found "Secular choirs" in the list of compositions of Antonio Salieri... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:39, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

So far I thought choir meant the people, not the work they sing, but may be wrong, - I use "choral music", but not for "type", where I had rather Song cycle, Piano trio, Mass, Motet etc., - not a description but a term, most often with a link, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:47, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Vaterlandslied, WAB 92, & Du bist wie eine Blume, WAB 64

Dear Gerda,

There is still another representative song of the Linz period, Vaterlandslied, WAB 92, ("O könnt' ich dich beglücken"), a 87-bar long patriotic song for men's choir and two soloists (13 pages in the Gesamtausgabe!). Described in van Zwol, p. 725, and Harten, p. 463. The text of August Silberstein is very long (see via the link "text" on Hans' webpage) and there is no recording of it available... I will draft a wiki page during the next days.

Another possible candidate: a fine song for voice quartet, Du bist wie eine Blume, WAB 64, on a text of Heinrich Heine. Described in van Zwol, p. 723, and Harten, p. 136. The only recording is a short fragment of it at the 30th minute of Hans Conrad Fischer's movie Das Leben Anton Bruckners... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 10:17, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam, BWV 7

Hi Gerda, I'll do my best to get the review done in the next 24 hours. I'm being audited tomorrow so that'll be ridiculously stressful, but I'm determined to get to your article. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:19, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the determination, best wishing for tomorrow, and take your time! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:24, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

ps: DYK that it was your boat race example that made me plan to do a GA for every occasion of Bach's liturgical year? Extra stressful when there's a feast day between two ordinary Sundays, as today (#3) and 2 July, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:30, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

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DYK for Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam

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DYK nomination of Du meine Seele singe

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Du bist wie eine Blume, WAB 64‎

Dear Gerda,

I have just created the next page, Du bist wie eine Blume‎. Please have a look on my translation of Heinrich Heine's text.

Thanks, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:37, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Looks as pure as the poetry (one comma missing). I bet there is a translation somewhere also. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:32, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

You are right! I have found a (better) translation on Du bist wie eine Blume. I have replaced it... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 18:53, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

That's great, thank you. Grillparzer same, - or is it some obscure text?

Abendklänge, WAB 110

Beste Gerda,

I find that Abendklänge is a little bit lost on the page Bruckner's piano works (Gesamtausgabe, Band XII/2 and 3). Abendklänge is put in a separate section of the Gesamtausgabe (Band XII/7), and its discography is not described with piano works ([14]), but on a separate page ([15]).

For these reasons, I am intended to expand the content of the paragraph, in which Abendklänge is currently described, and, thereafter, to split it from the page on the piano works, and classify it in the category Chamber music by Anton Bruckner‎‎.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 20:07, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Done. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 11:47, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Weltliche Chorwerke

Dear Gerda,

Herewith the list of Bruckner's Weltliche Chorwerke, which are not yet described in an individual page:

• Kronstorf period
  • An dem Feste, WAB 59
• St. Florian period
  • Das Lied vom deutschen Vaterland, WAB 78
  • Der Lehrerstand, WAB 77
  • Das edle Herz, WAB 65 (1st setting) – No commercial recording
  • Die Geburt, WAB 69 – No recording
  • Des Dankes Wort sei mir vergönnt, WAB 62
• Linz period
  • Das edle Herz, WAB 66 (2nd setting) – No recording
  • Vaterlandslied, WAB 92 – No recording
  • Vaterländisch Weinlied, WAB 91
• Vienna period
  • [Tafellied, WAB 86], a reissue of An dem Feste, WAB 59 – No recording

I am not convinced whether they are all worthy of an individual page. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 10:26, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

You could describe what you know on that list, have a header, and make a redirect of the work's name with WAB to that header. - New idea: in the infoboxes, you could say type = "Secular choral work" with a link to that list, composer = "Bruckner", if the full name gets broken, being too long for one line. Look at Luther's hymns where I even dropped the "composer", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:32, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Re. New idea: I have made a test. I have added "type = Secular choral work" to Um Mitternacht, WAB 90. It is not too long. I will add it to the other songs. Thanks, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 12:13, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

"type = Secular choral work" added to all the Weltliche Chorwerke. "type = Motet" added to all the motets. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:04, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

As you suggested, I have redirected the not yet created pages to the short descriptions of them in the page Weltliche Chorwerke (Bruckner). When you are looking at the category Weltliche Chorwerke by Anton Bruckner, you find now the complete list of the 32 Weltliche Chorwerke, in which the redirected pages are listed in italics. When one of the page will be created, I will then add it too in {{Anton Bruckner}}. I do, however, not list the mottos, which are very short songs, of about 30 seconds...

Thanks again for your appreciated advice, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 15:23, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Fine, only: the redirects should be bold, for example "Vaterlandslied", WAB 92, while the "Motto" - no redirect - should be not bold, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:09, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

On the page Weltliche Chorwerke (Bruckner), I have put the redirected songs in bold and the (nor redirected) mottos in normal text. OK so? --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:17, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, looks great! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:22, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

FYI: I have just acquired the CD of Guido Mancusi with the Chorus Viennensis, a remarkable recording with 8 Bruckner's Weltliche Chorwerke and 9 songs of Hugo Wolf. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 19:34, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Again

Beste Gerda,

Our best Nikki is again botching the changes, which I just have put on the infobox of Intermezzo in D minor (Bruckner), which she apparently considers still as her ownership... Please advise, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:47, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

I am tired, - you in your gentle ways will make your point that a location and first performance are of value better than I could, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:49, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

I am tired too. In the meantime, she also botched the changes, which I have put on the infobox of Rondo in C minor (Bruckner). I will do later it later on a gentle way in the talk of the concerned pages. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:55, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

I will take as example how the works are presented in Harten's Bruckner's Handbuch. After the title of the work with its WAB number, it begins with a table, which is very similar to the infobox, which we both use. Thereafter, I will confirm, that the infobox is so providing the readers with a similar quick overview of the relevant data, before they begin to look for more detailed data in the Wikipedia page. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 18:09, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Done on both talk pages. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 20:49, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

As expected, Nikki is again referring to her own interpretation of the guidelines and rule for doing so. See my reply on the concerned two talk pages. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:17, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Yesterday I had a nice conversation with a user who had no idea what makes an infobox: not just information in a box, but attribute-value pairs. Patient teaching needed ;) - Even when Rondo is in the title, "form = Rondo" is a different story, similar to when "in C major" is in the title, "key=C major" is still needed to tell search functions it's a piece in C major. I wanted to have just one in those cases, but please see a comment on the template talk of {{infobox musical composition}}. (I changed the thread header, btw, would not like my name on people's watchlists.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:36, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I have added this argument to the concerned two talk pages. There is till now no reaction to my replies. Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:06, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam, BWV 7

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Sibelius Tone Poems

Hey! Thanks for making edits to the infoboxes on En saga and The Bard. I was the person who first made these boxes (nice touch, no? :] ) and I like the fix you've made. However, I would encourage you to maintain the consistency among the tone poem pages and, thus, to make the identical change to the others: The Oceanides, Spring Song, Lemminkäinen Suite, Tapiola, The Wood Nymph, Pohjola's Daughter, Finlandia, etc. Also, if you're willing, I think it might be nice to add these to the 7 symphonies and the the violin concerto as well. I have held off doing so because I am busy with school, but if you want to use the template and tackle it, then be my (our) guest.

While we're on the topic of the template, do you have any other thoughts? The only other piece of information that I have left out that might be nice is the orchestra that performed the premiere; I did not feel the need or have the time to track down first recordings for everything, but this information may be in the back of the Andrew Barnett book I have (I'll check). Also, it is my opinion that the standard format should be to use the same picture of Sibelius for every composition, to help it feel like a 'series' of articles. Thoughts? Nice to meet a fellow Sibelian, if in fact you are. I have recently written the page for The Wood Nymph and The Oceanides. Improving the Sibelius tone poems is a little, periodic hobby of mine.

Regards, Sgvrfjs (talk) 01:18, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Note also that in The Bard you eliminated 'form' from the infobox after placing the words 'Tone poem' up top by 'Jean Sibelius', whereas in En saga you did not. We should standardize this. :) Sorry, to quibble! Haha. Sgvrfjs (talk) 01:25, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Hey! Someone just came in yesterday and edited the Oceanides infobox without reading or participating in the discussion we had begun on the talk page. I wish people would discuss things first; now the Oceanides doesn't match the infoboxes on the other Sibelius tone poem pages. Thoughts on what to do? I am of course not saying that the edit was bad or malicious or unnecessary (maybe I'll even support it), but I thought talk pages where were we as a community were supposed work things out. My whole desire is consistency. :( Sgvrfjs (talk) 07:00, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Bad news: if you go for consistency you will get unhappy here. Good news: the infobox was not reverted. (Two years ago, it would have been, with a two-letter-edit summary.) This is the encyclopedia anybody can edit without going to the talk page first, and I like that. There are now two paths you can pursue: you swallow it, at least for the moment, or you address the user - who is excellent in quality control for all DYK articles before they go to the Main page - and ask why. If you manage to explain to her that it makes a difference to have "Orchestral" as a genre (a specific value for a specific attribute), instead of added to the type (a loss of granularity), you make my day ;) - I don't know your appetite for discussion, - I remember Peter Planyavsky ;)

ps: I also remember from project opera (March 2013): "I therefore suggest that the next person who mentions 'granularity' (yes, I mean you, Gerda), or who attempts to bully editors by alleging huge techno revolutions going on somewhere out there, is suspended from this project for a period ranging from one femasecond to numerous millenia." - but this is my talk ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:35, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Charivari (Gruber)

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Adminship

I appreciate the tenor of your comments, and your congratulations. :-) Thank you very much for both; I hope I do them justice. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 02:30, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Please don't mention justice, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:20, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

But as you have mentioned the unmentionable, how about this coincidence! — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 19:59, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Love it. I mentioned it before, including "How about the other solution then, arbcom apologizing to Eric and his restrictions lifted? The whole case was the result of baiting, no?" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:15, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Barmherziges Herze der ewigen Liebe, BWV 185

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Arbitration

I received the following two messages. My first impulse was to archive or even delete. The design of this page is influenced by Br'er Rabbit and Hafspajen, and the pompous style doesn't fit. - After thinking, though, I left them as an anchor for discussion. How could this request, declined by all who commented, grow to what we see below? I made my comments in the workshop, about a huge waste of human potential which is correctly named "enforcement". I dream of getting rid of, replacing it by something productive which is not driven by the power (and interest) of individuals. Did you know that at present an admin who sees a clear violation is free to act? Acting meaning most often a block, a net loss for Wikipedia? - Comments best in the workshop. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:26, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

By motion, the Arbitration Committee authorises the following injunction effective immediately:

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Arbitration enforcement arbitration case opened

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It looks like arbitration is sitting about the unclear rules and rulings of arbitration. - I tell myself to assume good faith, but it takes a lot. The topic of yesterday's cantata is The Mote and the Beam. My statement was:

I request the committee to look at an aspect of AE that troubles me: a report without a talk to the other user before. A talk, hoping for a revert, has been done, and I suggest AE to request it if not done, before comments even begin, hoping that the user in question will revert or modify the edit in question.

The Sunday sermon in music is about mercy.

Further reading:

• Read a book
• Take a stroll

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:09, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I am known for my dreams. How about amnesty? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:04, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

caution: dangerous thought

I was reading the case talk page when I came to realise that I'm now in risk of being blocked for having nominated a page one of the "named parties" created for deletion. Alakzi (talk) 15:31, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Nothing would surprise me here any more (quoting myself from much earlier) but deletion proposals are probably not among the actions that might get you in trouble related to this. Speaking to me might be more dangerous ;) I borrowed the above from User talk:Kiefer.Wolfowitz, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:38, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

I can't believe it how similarly we think: I fixes the end span - and didn't get an edit conflict because you had done the same thing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:46, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

hah! Yeah, I'd not think anybody would think to block me for it, but I don't know what to think anymore. Perhaps I just need to stop thinking. Alakzi (talk) 18:17, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Dammit, now I'm tempted to close it and get a ruling on whether closing a deletion discussion is inherently an "admin action".

The secretly immature part of my brain really wants to find a harmless, trivial way to violate an overly broad restriction implemented in response to a harmless, trivial violation of an overly broad restriction. Opabinia regalis (talk) 19:21, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

You'd not want to put an end to our pursuit for objective truth though, would you? Alakzi (talk) 20:52, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

I coined "petty restriction" in 2012, - before I even knew what arbcom means, - about the time when I put Reformation on my user page, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

... reading there - amused: "Not impressed with the rhetoric. Accessibility is a core WMF priority and many existing visible styles are really poor." - Didn't change much in three years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Am I the only one who finds it funny that the admin corps are suddenly offended by ArbCom? It's all good when ArbCom rip into the common folk, but God forbid they send our admins a stern message. Alakzi (talk) 21:47, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

I am not there often, but it seems rare that a sitting arb is a party. I tried to talk to her, but she has obviously other concerns. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:56, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

If I didn't know better, I'd think imposing an unreasonable restriction on a group containing advocates of very strict interpretations of unreasonable restrictions was a clever accelerationist move. But all the kvetching about how the wording on the notice was less than greeting-card friendly is pretty funny. Opabinia regalis (talk) 09:06, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

You manage to cheer me up, you two, - welcome to my talk, Opabinia regalis! Alakzi recently joined the cabal of the outcasts, DYK? The term "outcasts" was featured on this talk in 2013, connected to a woman who was an alleged witch, pardoned 300 years after her trial, good company ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:35, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Ha. There is a cabal of people not in the cabal. Opabinia regalis (talk) 09:06, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Some people are in the cabal without signing up, such as Alakzi (before) and you, - what you do makes you part of it, as I hope you don't mind ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:31, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Tre Motetter

This is your thank you from the DYK project (pass it on?) Victuallers (talk) 13:06, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

An dem Feste, WAB 59

Dear Gerda,

I have just created An dem Feste, WAB 59, Bruckner's first Weltliches Chorwerk, which he revised at the end of his life. Please have look on my translation of the German text.

Thanks in advance, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:48, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

PS: Nikki is again splitting hairs. Hopefully you will not find my replies too sarcastic... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:56, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! The very first and the very last Weltliche Chorwerke are now referred... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 15:32, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Das edle Herz, WAB 65

Dear Gerda,

I have just created the page on the first setting of Das edle Herz. Tomorrow I will create the page on its second setting, and make an attempt of translation of Marinelli's text.

Have a peaceful night! --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 21:22, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Noble! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:26, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Du meine Seele singe

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:51, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Barmherziges Herze der ewigen Liebe, BWV 185

The article Barmherziges Herze der ewigen Liebe, BWV 185 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Barmherziges Herze der ewigen Liebe, BWV 185 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ritchie333 -- Ritchie333 (talk) 11:01, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Das edle Herz, WAB 66

Dear Gerda,

I have created the page on the second setting of Das edle Herz (WAB 66).

I have also made an attempt to translation of Marinelli's text (see Das edle Herz, WAB 65). Please have a look on this attempt to translation. Thanks in advance. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 11:12, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Another tough one ;) - watchers: "Seelenpreis" in English, "praise from the soul" sounds wrong --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Gerda, for your review. I absolutely not understand the meaning of "Seelenpreis"! "Seele" can be "mind", "soul" or "spirit", and "Preis" "price", "award" or "praise"... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 12:27, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Nobody will ultimately know what the poet intended or if he left it ambiguous for a reason. Preis is Praise here (not Prize), "sing praises", Seele will be Soul in this case, but no way of knowing if from the soul of the one singing or to the soul of the one to whom is sung. See my user page for a different rendering of "Wer": "He who speaks a word of consolation ...". For me, that is a bit too exclusively male ;) - Admitted, "Verräter" is also male, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:36, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) In this context, I think it's most likely as an intensifier, "dankerfüllter Seelenpreis" ≈ "dankerfüllter seelentiefer Preis" and the current "thankful praise from the soul" fits that. "Soulful praise" is obviously not the same. Note that in other contexts, "Seelenpreis" is the price(!) of/for the soul when bartering with the devil. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:47, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, - and possibly the poet had that other meaning in mind (or soul) also ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:58, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you too. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:04, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Remaining Weltliche Chorwerke

Dear Gerda,

Six Weltliche Chorwerke are not yet described on a separate Wikipedia page:

Sankt Florian period

• Das Lied vom deutschen Vaterland Des-Dur, c. 1845 - WAB 78, Band XXIII/2 No. 2 - a short patriotic song; one recording - Harten, p. 254; van Zwol, p. 720 Done
• Der Lehrerstand Es-Dur, c. 1847 - WAB 77, Band XXIII/2 No. 4 - a quite long, (I find) drab song on "teacher and teaching" (Bruckner's own previous experience in Windhaag and Kronstorf?); one recording - Harten, p. 250; van Zwol, pp. 720-721
• Die Geburt Des-Dur, 1852 - WAB 69, Band XXIII/2 No. 8 - a name-day song on (I find) a rare text; no recording at all - Harten, p. 168; van Zwol, pp. 721-722
• Des Dankes Wort sei mir vergönnt F-Dur, 1845-1854 - WAB 62, Band XXIII/2 No. 11 - a quite long Danklied for alternately choir and soloists with humming choir; one recording - Harten, p. 125; van Zwol, pp. 722-723

Linz period

• Vaterlandslied As-Dur, 1866 - WAB 92, Band XXIII/2 No. 20 - a quite long patriotic song for choir and soloists; no recording at all - Harten, p. 463; van Zwol, p. 725
• Vaterländisch Weinlied C-Dur, 1866 - WAB 91, Band XXIII/2 No. 21 - a short, 6-strophe Trinklied; one recording - Harten, p. 463; van Zwol, p. 725

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:00, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Gerda!

Thank you for the Pumpkin Sky Prize again! Much appreciated. Storye book (talk) 14:06, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Did you know that today is the anniversary of the gem appearing as TFA, with a Bach cantata in the DYK section? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Das Lied vom deutschen Vaterland, WAB 78

Dear Gerda,

I have created the next page Das Lied vom deutschen Vaterland.

Please have a look on my tentative translation of its short German text. Thanks for it, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 15:16, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Oluf Hartmann

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:20, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Christ unser Herr zum Jordan kam, BWV 7

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Your GA nomination of When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd

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DYK for Ich hatte viel Bekümmernis, BWV 21

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 13:06, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd

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Whitman

Hi Gerda, this is an article on my watchlist and I'm concerned to see it at GA. Do you know if there have been checks for source/text integrity? I took a few moments to spot-check and found some issues. I'll post what I've found a bit later, but my advice is that this needs a sentence-by-sentence check. Sorry. Victoria (tk) 20:40, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Could you take them to the review? It's not a new article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I'd prefer not to challenge again, but so far every citation I've checked fails. It would be better if someone else digs in and takes a look. Whitman is extremely difficult to write about and it needs a lot of work. Each citation has to be checked, given that the ones checked are failing, then the text that fails verification has to be removed and rewritten. Not easy. If it does get passed, I probably would challenge and that, as you know, will be messy. Or I can just ignore, ignore, ignore. Some things, though, such as source integrity are really hard for me to ignore. My blindspot. Victoria (tk) 21:24, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I trust you, - it's not my article, so I don't know what you do. Can you give me one example, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:28, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the trust. Yes, I know it's not one of yours - I should have clarified that so that people don't think I'm accusing you. I've made a few messy notes but don't have time to post them until a bit later. Posting to the talk page is best; then I can add there or others can. Victoria (tk) 21:51, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Take your time. Bedtime for me anyway ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:55, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I left a few examples. Problem is that nothing matched up. Victoria (tk) 23:50, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

When I translated Remember not, Lord, our offences to German I went sentence by sentence. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:37, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

I'll keep an eye on it and give advice if you need it. I think maybe best to keep this set of comments on the talk and not part of the GA review so they can be added to. If I get more time, I'll dig a bit more deeply. Victoria (tk) 13:58, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

I've taken a stab at it but to be honest this is just soul-destroying because I know I'll take flak, I have in the past, yet the article is quite flawed. I have to leave it others to sort; I really don't care enough about WP any more to carry on with it. In that case it's fine too to leave my comments where you moved them if you wish. Victoria (tk) 15:51, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Good articles

I'd double-check with Dr. Blofeld - I'm not sure what the necessary rules are, but it seemed that there was no consensus among the articles I went through. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:07, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I followed the instructions, so far with no problem. Once it's approved it seems not to matter. For the one on hold, there was an error message "specify subtopic". Now what? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:11, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Ah, OK. Seems to be an approval thing - it should be changed over once the nomination is dealt with. Sorry about that. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 21:35, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I get that, but why can't it be "topic" from the beginning? The "sub" never made sense to me ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:34, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Die Geburt, WAB 69

Beste Gerda,

Next Bruckner's Weltliches Chorwerk, Die Geburt, is created. If you can find time for doing it, please have a look on my translation of the German text, as well as that of the previous Weltliches Chorwerk, Das Lied vom deutschen Vaterland.

Thanks in advance, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:28, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Looked, no comment to the quality of that poetry. There must be a better term for "Hand reichen", and for "Heimat", meaning Heaven, as "Heimgang" means death. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:20, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Would "reach the hand" a better translation? I don't know... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:35, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

In French "Wir reichen dir die Hand." would be translated as "Nous te tendons la main", which could be translated as "We reach out to you." --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:24, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd

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Gift

Kafka Liz offers you the Matterhorn! It isn't hers to give, nor are you Swiss, but I hope you will like it! Snow-covered mountains of all types promote Wikilove and hopefully this one has made your day better.

Kafka Liz (talk) 08:35, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

I does, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:39, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Magnificat in E-flat major, BWV 243a

The article Magnificat in E-flat major, BWV 243a you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Magnificat in E-flat major, BWV 243a for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tim riley -- Tim riley (talk) 09:21, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

AE granting amnesty

This message is sent at 12:53, 5 July 2015 (UTC) by Arbitration Clerk User:Penwhale via MassMessage on behalf of the Arbitration Committee. You are receiving this message because your name appears on this list and have not elected to opt-out of being notified of development in the arbitration case.

On 5 July, 2015, the following motion was passed and enacted:

1. Paragraphs (2) and (3) of the Arbitration Committee's motion of 29 June 2015 about the injunction and reporting breaches of it are hereby rescinded.
2. The Arbitration Committee hereby declares an amnesty covering:
   1. the original comment made by Eric Corbett on 25 June 2015 and any subsequent related comments made by him up until the enactment of this current motion; and
   2. the subsequent actions related to that comment taken by Black Kite, GorillaWarfare, Reaper Eternal, Kevin Gorman, GregJackP and RGloucester before this case was opened on 29 June 2015.

Thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:01, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Snowballs in Hell

I can report that I have received a number of apologies from ArbCom, over procedural failings. Not, it is true, over anything substantive, but I live in hope. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:55, 5 July 2015 (UTC).

Interesting. Did you see "Hope" quite high up? - I kept it from last year, and also live in hope. Why is hell mentioned so often in the context? - I sometimes have crazy dreams, like the TFA process becoming more democratic (came true), now Wikipedia without AE. I didn't dare to dream of an arbitrator taking my workshop suggestion to an article, but it happened. Ode to Hope ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Indeed I saw your hatted note, and your quotation there, so the mention of Hell is not random. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 21:39, 5 July 2015 (UTC).

Your experience must be much worse than mine, - I just find it a bit kafkaesque to have been accused of battlegound on a clean blocklog and not a single case of 3RR, but such is life, - amusing in a way, - can't help to read "evidence" with a grain of irony. Did you know that a friend was almost banned (a third time) because he uncollapsed an infobox? Things look brighter for him now ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

LOL, SilkTork wanted to site ban Andy? Oh dear... Alakzi (talk) 22:13, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Wasn't the only one to think banning Andy would solve the infobox problem. I sometimes wonder at what "evidence" arbs and their enforcers look. - Example Talk:Laurence Olivier#Infobox: my edits were discussed at AE, the others are free - or left in frustration. - I simply believe that some readers prefer to read a lead, others an infobox, and we should serve both. - could be so easy. I dream of a time when the readers have more say ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:45, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

re

Usually the user pages of banned users will be replaced with {{Banned}}, for example.--GZWDer (talk) 06:00, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

There are other examples (User:Ottava Rima, User:The Call of the Wild, User:Kiefer.Wolfowitz), + even if it is "usual", you don't have to do it, - it removes potentially helpful information for readers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:12, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Black barnstar

Hi Gerda. I was amused by that black barnstar you mentioned to Rich. So I decided to give one to somebody with over 24,000 edits and numerous DYK articles who was ArbCommed and eventually unceremoniously ditched from the community. She even came back to edit for a while, after a ban lasting at least a year. I gave it to User:NinaGreen. Italick (talk) 00:28, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Tell John Cline. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

I copied Precious from her talk to there. - Any watching admin: I would like to see the link to the Precious archive corrected for the missed author of today's Ringo Starr, User:GabeMc. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:18, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

• And I removed it, Italick. Kindly don't troll, and don't attack the people who wasted so much time dealing with Nina Green's disruption and gave her so many second chances. ("Unceremoniusly", indeed.) The barnstar Gerda gave her, for article work, is something quite different, and of course I haven't touched that. I have a hard time believing you have looked into the background, Italick — I believe you're just assuming, or, as you said, "I recall". Bishonen | talk 07:55, 7 July 2015 (UTC).

No it's not my soapbox. I'm hoping she will be let back in. When she's back she can decide if she wants to display the award. Italick (talk) 13:12, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mass in C major (Beethoven)

Gatoclass (talk) 00:52, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

A notion

Gerda, would you like to collaborate on an article for WoO 152-154 and/or one for Beethoven's folk arrangements in general? Snow ^{let's rap} 05:23, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Sure, in sloth mode ;) - Model: Ah! perfido --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:29, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, that looks about right to me, although longer and with a more sectioned structure should it be one article with a broad focus, rather than for one particular opus. Anyway, sloth mode works fine by me.  :) I'll start with a resource hunt and see what the sources suggest as to how to group them (that is, an article per opus, articles on each of the different types of folk song arrangements, or one the arrangements broadly). I'll let you know what I turn up for sources generally! Snow ^{let's rap} 05:42, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

A model for one topic covering several of the same might be Cantiones sacrae (Schütz) or (better) the more recent Carl Nielsen works: have a sortable table for the single entries and handle those extra who deserve more, - actually any advanced Bach cantata does the same in the music section, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:58, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Thanks for being nice to a relatively new Wikipedian! — k_scheik talk to me! 16:41, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Reminds me that I forgot to mention how I liked you passing palafel ;) - thank you! I like to share, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:39, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Widerstehe doch der Sünde, BWV 54

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DYK for Orlanda Velez Isidro

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:33, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Fmt

I removed 'alt' as it was not being used; added 'image_size' as it is a standard parameter; and removed the death parameters as they were also not being used. Feel free to re-add them if you wish, I won't remove them again. GiantSnowman 14:19, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

'Image_size' should be used, as far as I was aware, when images are too large. GiantSnowman 14:35, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Image size in pixels is expressly discouraged by the IUP; see WP:THUMBSIZE. Infobox thumbnails default to frameless, which is either (a) the value of your image size setting (220 px unless you've changed it), or (b) the original resolution of the image if it is smaller than 220 px. Alakzi (talk) 14:38, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Romy Gundermann

Gatoclass (talk) 23:48, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for The Oceanides

Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Constanze Backes

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:26, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Not only, but she strikes me as mainly operatic. Feel free to revert if you feel the other category is better. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 22:45, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Just wanted to know. Lead says "opera and concert", and the article was created to fill a red link in BWV 243a ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:50, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Babette Haag

Gatoclass (talk) 00:13, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Münster Cathedral

That took longer than I expected!

Furius (talk) 01:48, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

What you call simply "that" is exquisite! Will look for details later. Would you like to get alittle bit more over from de for Lutherkirche, Wiesbaden? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:49, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

I will certainly give it a go! Furius (talk)

DYK for Hedy Graf

The DYK project (nominate) 12:01, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Magnificat

Magnificat in E-flat major, BWV 243a#Selected recordings says there was one in 1966 before the Rilling in 1967. Perhaps we could change the hook to "one of the first"; or did you mean it was the first recording of the Magnificat to be conducted by Rilling? (Spellcheck wants me to change the section title to "Magnification"; "Magnify cat" would have been closer and more exciting). Belle (talk) 08:55, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

First is only related to J. S. Bach, not to recording, not to Rilling, - can you word that better? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:50, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

I had a go but it is difficult to keep the DYK subject at the beginning and still make it clear what is going on; would "Bach's first Magnificat" be accurate, or does it have to be "first version"? Belle (talk) 10:11, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

"First" would suggest to me that he wrote at least two which differ, - however the second (BWV 243) doesn't differ much, compare. - The second version in the easier key gets all the recordings, so I like to stress the first ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:39, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Precocious again

Thanks for your kind words of encouragement. I've just recently returned from China where I developed this article. I was trying to get it through DYK but overreached by adding one article too many to the mix. I've added some more text to bring it over the 1,500 character maximum, but now I need someone to approve the nomination. If you could drop by and take a look, that would be greatly appreciated. Cheers! Hawkeye7 (talk) 11:02, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

My RfA

Pavlov's RfA reward Thank for !voting at my recent RfA. You voted Support so you get a whopping three cookies, fresh from the oven! All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:50, 16 July 2015 (UTC).

Delicious, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:53, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Hildegard Rütgers

Gatoclass (talk) 00:33, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Bentworth

Hi, thank you for your comments at the recent peer review. The article is now a featured article candidate, and it would be great if you could comment there. Thanks! JAGUAR  20:16, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Traveling for a few days, but will get to it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:28, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Barnstar for work on Jon Vickers

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		for your work in referencing Jon Vickers which resulted in the article being posted to WP:ITN. μηδείς (talk) 21:36, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for helping with creating this

I think you may be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject XX as you have helped in bringing it to life ..... today. Victuallers (talk) 09:06, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Ruth Sandhoff

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:36, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks...

... for your message. Best wishes, Mick gold (talk) 09:18, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Don't know if you know

I appreciate all the work you do and wanted to let you know. You are a great editor. Best Regards,

  Bfpage |leave a message  04:03, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Don't know if you know that I am the notorious infoboxes criminal, member of the cabal of the outcasts ;) - but thank you anyway, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:18, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Bruckner's Weltliche Chorwerke

Hi Gerda,

When coming back home from a two-week holiday in the French Alps, I found a CD issued by Hans Roelofs with, among others, Du bist wie eine Blume and Das edle Herz (second setting) by Stephen Cleobury - two Schubert-like songs for mixed choir, for which no commercial recordings are available. I find it a pity that a lot of Bruckner's Weltliche Chorwerke are "forgotten" and not yet commercially issued...

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:32, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Returning from vacation in the Italian-Swiss Alps ;) - I should upload photos of flowers, and you would tell me what they are, I bet, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:57, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Dear Gerda,

I have uploaded about 150 new pictures, of which some of endemic plants of the Southwest-Alps, as well as of the Orange lily.

You are of course welcome for identifying the plants of your pictures.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:58, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Widerstehe doch der Sünde, BWV 54

Gatoclass (talk) 13:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Bruckner's Weltliche Chorwerke

Dear Gerda,

Four Weltliche Chorwerke are not yet described on a separate Wikipedia page:

Sankt Florian period

• Der Lehrerstand Es-Dur, c. 1847 - WAB 77, Band XXIII/2 No. 4 - a quite long, (I find) drab song on "teacher and teaching" (Bruckner's own previous experience in Windhaag and Kronstorf?); one recording - Harten, p. 250; van Zwol, pp. 720-721
• Des Dankes Wort sei mir vergönnt F-Dur, 1845-1854 - WAB 62, Band XXIII/2 No. 11 - a quite long Danklied for alternately choir and soloists with humming choir; one recording - Harten, p. 125; van Zwol, pp. 722-723

Linz period

• Vaterlandslied As-Dur, 1866 - WAB 92, Band XXIII/2 No. 20 - a quite long patriotic song for choir and soloists; no recording at all - Harten, p. 463; van Zwol, p. 725
• Vaterländisch Weinlied C-Dur, 1866 - WAB 91, Band XXIII/2 No. 21 - a short, 6-strophe Trinklied; one recording - Harten, p. 463; van Zwol, p. 725

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:14, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Water

Hafspajen (talk) 22:02, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Stille Wasser sind tief. Tak. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Vater, you who are in heaven ... .) Hafspajen (talk) 22:06, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

these eyes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:12, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

• Cute. Hafspajen (talk) 22:14, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

The eyes go well with those in my box above, which had your name for a while, - thank you that it is over --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:26, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Sigh. When did I got your awards, by the way? Twice, was it. Hafspajen (talk) 14:58, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Normally, people get it once, and a reminder a year later. Look up WP:Q if you forget that your day was 30 January, starting the third year, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:13, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks

Thank you so much for your exceedingly kind words. What with all the nastiness in the world today and the (all too frequent) incivility and vandalism on Wikipedia, it truly makes my day to read such a thoughtful, considerate compliment.

Best,

GAB (talk) 23:06, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

User:GeneralizationsAreBad, I just fell in love with your user name ;) - Do you know that I see a lot of incivility, but not so much in an occasional "bad word"? (Want to comment here?) - Now, you even get blocked for missing spine and thoughts in a group of people. Sunday sermon: examine my heart, 292 years old, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm collecting uncivil edit summaries and making them into userboxes. It's going quite well. GAB (talk) 13:25, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Good to know, will feed your collection when I meet one ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:09, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

I used to have a collection... will remember that there's a new home! Montanabw^(talk) 08:49, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd

The article When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jaguar -- Jaguar (talk) 17:41, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Vaterländisch Weinlied, WAB 91

Dear Gerda,

I have created Vaterländisch Weinlied. Please have look on my translation of the German text. Many thanks in advance, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:00, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Meneerke bloem, etwas/jemandes gedenken means "to commemorate something/someone", so beim Rebensaft des Vaterlands gedenken is "commemorate/think of the fatherland with wine" (poet., literally vine-juice). Kind regards ✦ _hugarheimur 13:12, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

I tried differently, - anyway, it's the song which is vaterländisch - any good translation for that? - not the grapes. Vine is the whole plant, wine just the grapes and what is made from it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:16, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much for improving my translation! I found the text a little bit ambiguous...

It is indeed a "patriotic" song, which was, on request of Anton M. Storch, composed together with the Vaterlandslied, WAB 92, a patriotic a cappella cantata, in the same line as Germanenzug and Helgoland, also on a text of August Silberstein. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:48, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Der Lehrerstand, Des Dankes Wort sei mir vergönnt & Vaterlanslied

Dear Gerda,

I have created the last three pages Der Lehrerstand, Des Dankes Wort sei mir vergönnt and Vaterlandslied.

I will put a translation of the (long) German texts later, and, if appropriate, add internal links to it for the different parts of the songs. I will let you know when I have done it.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:39, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

I have already made a draft translation of the German text of Vaterlandslied. If you can find some time for doing it, please have a look on it. Thanks in advance, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 08:50, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Done what I could. Brrr ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:06, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for it! I will now try to translate the next one (Des Dankes Wort sei mir vergönnt)... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:28, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

For mediating on Talk:Zourafa. Much appreciated. Alakzi (talk) 12:46, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Translations

Dear Gerda,

In the meantime, I have added draft translations of the German text to Des Dankes Wort sei mir vergönnt and Der Lehrerstand.

If you can find some time for doing it, please have a look on these trnslations. Thanks in advance, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:27, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Did one, but not the other, can't digest too much of that stuff at a time. "Stand" is not "job", but what is it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:58, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for the translation! Could "Stand" perhaps be translated as "Status"? --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 15:31, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Position, class, rank - all not really good, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:39, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

"Position" could perhaps be the "least worse" one (?).

Personally, I find the text and the music of Der Lehrerstand quite drab, but we have to be neutral and we may not put our own opinion forward... I find the "evening- and night-songs" (Abendhimmel I and II, Mitternacht, Um Mitternacht I and II, Sternschnuppen and Abendzauber) the best ones. Abendzauber is my favourite. De gustibus et coloribus...

In the meantime, I have created the first of five pages, which I am intended to create for the lieder: Frühlingslied. I have found a good English translation of Heine's text on The LiederNet Archive.

These will be, I think, the last pages, which I will create on Bruckner's works, because I do not think that the small piano and organ works deserve more than their current overview pages. Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:55, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Nice translation, but why "her" for "dich" last line I wonder (and if not "you", why not "his"?) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:00, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for it. In the meantime, I have drafted the page of the second lied (draft translation will be added later): Wie bist du Frühling, gut und treu. I will now go on with the third one... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 07:37, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

In the meantime, I have drafted the page of the last three lieder: Herbstkummer, Mein Herz und deine Stimme and Im April. Attempts for translation of the German texts will be added later. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:07, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Gerda Müller

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:57, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

So many Gerdas 5:00 ;-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:21, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Florian Wenninger

Someone wants to delete my newest article. Could You please be so kind and have a look? Thanks so much. --Meister und Margarita (talk) 13:07, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Not now. Take to user space and develop there, I would say, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:10, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Problem has been resolved. Thanks--Meister und Margarita (talk) 21:39, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

New recent changes patroller ;) - und deutsch? Pic Tannhäuser? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:57, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

It's nice to be appreciated

I don't do this for the recognition, but it's nice when someone does notice the work you've done. Thank you, Gerda. Dalliance (talk) 21:20, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Elevenie

Hallo Gerda Arendt!
Danke, dass du dich um den Artikel Elevenie gekümmert hast! Nachdem ich gesehen habe, dass du hier eine Änderung an der zweiten Strophe gemacht hast (Teilstück "My life resonates"), wollte ich mal fragen ob es da nicht eine bessere Lösung gibt. Ich habe auch über My life resonates nachgedacht, habe dann aber versucht die Elfchenform beizubehalten... Hast du vielleicht eine Idee wie man da ein viertes Wort rein bekommt? --D-Kuru (talk) 21:33, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Danke für die Änderung! --D-Kuru (talk) 10:19, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Corinne improved, I thought "chimes in" might also work, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:22, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Do you mean for "resonates"? My life chimes in? That would not make sense. We use "chime in" when someone joins a conversation with a comment or opinion. CorinneSD (talk) 13:53, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Lutherkirche, Wiesbaden

Gatoclass (talk) 07:12, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Translation of the text of Bruckner's lieder

Dear Gerda,

I have added a draft translation of the text of the four lieder Wie bist du, Frühling, gut und treu, Herbstkummer, Mein Herz und deine Stimme, and Im April.

I would be you very grateful, if you could find some time for reviewing these four attempts to translation.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:22, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Nice. There might be a translation for the Geibel somewhere. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the review.

You are right, there a translation for the Geibel available on You damp spring evening]. Would I perhaps take it over? --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:39, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

I would use it as external link, - there may be copyright problems, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:45, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

The is also a translation for Mein Herz und deine Stimme on the same site: Her voice... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:48, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your review of my last draft translations. All the vocal works with a German text have now an English translation.

I let Hans Roelofs and John Berky know that "all Bruckner's works have now their own descriptive page on the English Wikipedia, except the (small) piano and organ works, which have an overview page". John was so enthused about it, that he put it in his "Latest news!!": Reginald Hulhoven and the Bruckner Wikipedia Page. Many thanks again for your appreciated help. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 20:46, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Schauet doch und sehet, ob irgend ein Schmerz sei, BWV 46

The article Schauet doch und sehet, ob irgend ein Schmerz sei, BWV 46 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Schauet doch und sehet, ob irgend ein Schmerz sei, BWV 46 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jaguar -- Jaguar (talk) 20:21, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Frühlingslied, WAB 68

Dear Gerda,

To avoid problems of copyright, I have "adapted" the translation of Frühlingslied, which I had originally copied from The LiederNet Archive, and put the ref to the page of The LiederNet Archive as "External link".

Please have a look on the adapted translation and do not hesitate to change it. Many thanks in advance, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 12:58, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! There is so no more possible problem of copyright. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:18, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Kafkaesque

Hi Gerda, ping my talk page if you see Kafka articles that have changes of interest to me. I have several on my watchlist (of respect for our missing colleague PumpkinSky) but not all of them. Montanabw^(talk) 17:06, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Today's move back and forth was kafkaesque, - a nicer word for waste of time ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:10, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Danke sehr!

I have one of these now in bloom at home, so thought I would share it with you. We hope (talk) 22:06, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Sehr schön! The flower on top blooms at my home now. You are the (only) one to whom I wanted to give Precious but Dr. Blofeld was faster ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

We had the lilies in the garden at the house I grew up in, so it reminds me of home. My anthurium is a house plant. Always liked them because they look like they're not real, but they are. Dr. Blofeld works very quickly--sometimes it's hard to keep up with him. ;) We hope (talk) 22:40, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Balch Creek

Gerda, thanks for nominating Balch Creek. I'll see if I can do something about the dead URLs. City and university sources that I relied on have moved some of their web pages or deleted them, and I didn't know enough a few years ago to do my own archiving. Wah! Finetooth (talk) 19:44, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Happened to me the same with newspaper links here, - told me to do own archive more consistently, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:08, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Type

Hi Gerda,

I have in the meantime reverted my redundant changes for the three Bruckner's numbered masses.

About Talk:Cantata academica: I agree with your point of view, and do not understand why Nikki remains so obstinate, alike a dog gnawing at a bone... I think, that an infobox has to be informative and accurate (alike the summaries used by Harten in Bruckners Handbuch), but it should also not contain too much info. The picture should be intended to add info about the concerned composition, dedication, etc.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:18, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Say that there? - Problem is that "creator" has some extra say on "style" - as if infobox was style. I am not the creator, but nor is she. (Arbcom "clarified" that you are only the creator if you turned red link to blue. It's kafkaesque.) I assume good faith and see no relation in her being interested in the article after I made an edit to it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:27, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry! I did perhaps not fully understand the "Kafkaesque" context of this discussion... Whatever the context, as I wrote, I believe, that an infobox should be informative and accurate (alike the summaries used by Harten in Bruckners Handbuch). If a picture is added, it should add info about the concerned composition, dedication, etc. See your discussion about Beethoven's Mass No. 1... Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 10:08, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Kafkaesque: the arbs ruled that I "created" an article only if I turned the red link to blue, not if I expanded a two-line stub to a GA.

What you say is all good but please say it on the cantata article. The other - kafkaesque - ruling was that we have to decide from article to article, and that what has been found on Beethoven's work (or Beethoven himself) is of no relevance for the cantata, - quite logical in a concept where the "creator" has more to say than the reader. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:24, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

I will add my opinion, i.e.: Whatever the context ("creator" or "reader"), I believe, that an infobox should be informative and accurate (alike the summaries used by Uwe Harten in Bruckners Handbuch). If a picture is added, it should add info about the concerned composition, dedication, etc. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 10:39, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Discography of Bruckner's vocal works

Dear Gerda,

There are still Bruckner's vocal works, for which no commercial or private recordings are available:

Namenstags-Kantaten

1. Musikalischer Versuch nach der Kammer-Styl – WAB 93a & 93b; Vergißmeinnicht – WAB 93c
2. Entsagen – WAB 14
3. Auf, Brüder! auf zur frohen Feier – WAB 61a; Heil, Vater! Dir zum hohen Feste – WAB 61b; Heil Dir zum schönen Erstlingsfeste – WAB 61c

Lieder für Gesang und Klavier

1. Volkslied – WAB 94 (Fassung für Gesang und Klavier)

Weltliche Chöre

1. Die Geburt – WAB 69
2. Vaterlandslied – WAB 92
3. Das hohe Lied – WAB 74
4. Nachruf – WAB 81 (ursprüngliche Fassung „Trösterin Musik“ – WAB 88)
5. Tafellied – WAB 86 (Neue Fassung „An dem Feste“ – WAB 59)

Mottos

1. Ein jubelnd Hoch in Leid und Lust – WAB 83.1
2. Lebt wohl, ihr Sangesbrüder – WAB 83.2
3. Das Frauenherz, die Mannesbrust – WAB 95.1
4. Im Wort und Liede wahr und treu – WAB 148.1

Hopefully there will be for these works recordings available in the future... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 12:40, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

PS: Recordings of

• Am Grabe, WAB 2 (full setting),
• Festlied, WAB 67,
• Das edle Herz, WAB 65

can as yet only be found on Hans Roelofs' CD DutchDragon HR 750,

Recordings of

• Das edle Herz, WAB 66
• Du bist wie eine Blume, WAB 64

can as yet only be found on Hans' CD DutchDragon HR 835. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:12, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK: Approval of ALTs

Hi Gerda. Thanks for all the reviews you've done at WP:DYK recently. I keep seeing your name everywhere when I go to build preps. Just so you know, you should not provide approval to alts that you yourself proposed (similar to how a nominator can't approve their own hook), as you did at one point at Template:Did you know nominations/Chillisquaque Creek. This helps ensure that a few sets of eyes see a hook and catch any errors before it makes it to the main page. ~ Rob^Talk 02:05, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Just to let you know: you should not approve a different hook means no new facts which require different sources. If you supply a different wording of the same facts you can approve, especially if you leave the other as an option. Keep simple. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:29, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Susanne Rydén

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:26, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Bruckner's works on IMSLP and ChoralWiki

Dear Gerda,

FYI: I regularly check whether there are new additions on IMSLP and, if required, I put a link in both directions. I am now doing the same for ChoralWiki.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 12:36, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Evelyn Herlitzius

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 17:12, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Schauet doch und sehet, ob irgend ein Schmerz sei, BWV 46

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 16:41, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Commemorative Cantata for the Centenary of the Birth of Pushkin

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:26, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Type for Bruckner's Motets

Dear Gerda,

I agree with your suggestion to change the type "[[Motet]]" to "[[Motets (Bruckner)|Motet]]". It will indeed then focus to Bruckner's motets. I will do it.

Thanks for this suggestion! --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:49, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Done. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 15:10, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Excellent! There are other possibilities, for all types where an article is dedicated to a group, of course ;) - For some, that might be reason enough to revive parameter form, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:22, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

When applicable, I have indeed added the "form": Hymn, Marian hymn, Antiphon, Marian antiphon, Gradual, Offertory, Responsorium, Absoute, Elegy, Chorale... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:31, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mein Herze schwimmt im Blut, BWV 199

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Mein Herze schwimmt im Blut, BWV 199 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Montanabw -- Montanabw (talk) 21:00, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Need some advice on DYKs

Hello, Gerda. I'm trying to put together my first DYK, and I need someone to tell me if I've done it correctly: Template:Did you know nominations/Mesa Verde National Park. Would you mind taking a look at it? RO^(talk) 19:29, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm sure Gerda won't mind me being nosy and pushing in; the hook is too long (it can be 200 characters at the maximum), the DYK article needs highlighting in bold, and there is no need to put a ref in the hook (you shouldn't put one). Apart from that it looks fine. Belle (talk) 19:34, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

You also should have selected GA as the status in the nomination template to make it output the "Improved to Good Article status by" text, but that's just an aid to reviewers really. Belle (talk) 19:42, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Okay. I'll try to remember that next time. I trimmed the blurb down, so is it short enough now? RO^(talk) 19:50, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

We will get there ;) - but please if you ask me to do something don't touch the thing until I'm done, - edit conflicts, - I almost forgot to add "pictured" a third time, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:56, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Sorry about that. Are you going to add that as a second hook option, or do you want me to? RO^(talk) 19:58, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

By being in the nom template, it is already added, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:04, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Okay. Is there a way to add the picture of Cliff Palace too? Or will that get done if that hook is chosen? RO^(talk) 20:07, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

ALT1 comes with the image of Cliff Palace, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:11, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Wait, I saw it but not anymore, will dig into that. They recently made a new template for images ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Image back, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:19, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

RO, the problem with the original hook is that it refers to Mesa Verde, not Mesa Verde National Park (you don't remember what a minefield DYK is for new nominators once you are sucked into the hive; bzzz; bzzz). Belle (talk) 20:02, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

But I thought it was interesting that the park should probably be called Cuesta Verde National Park, so that's about the park's name. Anyway, thanks for giving me some advice here. I'm sure I'll figure it out. RO^(talk) 20:07, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Gerda, I made another one: Template:Did you know nominations/Rock 'N' Roll Comics. Could you please take a look when you get a chance? RO^(talk) 22:04, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

First get rid of the tag on top, not be removing but sourcing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, but which tag? RO^(talk) 22:13, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Second: not new (2006), not expanded five times during the last week, not recently made GA. Looks like GA would be the only way to make it eligible, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:10, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Rock 'N' Roll Comics was created today, but I suppose I've confused things by mentioning the parent company? RO^(talk) 22:13, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Mind-reading isn't one of my abilities ;) - Can you sue a book? Needs rewording, not just replacement, also needs (pictured) behind what is pictured, context needed, not any pretty picture from the article, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:21, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Image has to be in the article, not any pretty picture illustrating anything in the hook.- For the hook: suing is interesting, but how about telling people something about the book, nudity, drugs, seems all there, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:26, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the hints. I just realized that lots of the content was spun off the Revolutionary Comics article, so maybe this was a bad choice anyway, but I got it from the list here of new articles provided at the DYK page. RO^(talk) 22:42, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Learning by doing ;) - bedtime here, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:47, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Boys will be boys

G, I'm pretty sure both Ceradon and Ritchie are both male: [16]. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 20:20, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Sure is one thing, pretty sure another ;) - I could say that I am pretty sure that Alakzi is a woman, - too clever for a boy ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:18, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Could be. Perhaps you should ask him/her. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:24, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't matter to me ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:27, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

The cat is curious. Just as I would be somewhat surprised to find out you're a man, Gerda. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 21:37, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Curious cat, then ask. I have a lot of compassion for Alakzi - as for other victims - but no intention to marry ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:59, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

ps: see also my dangerous dreams --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:03, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

I come bearing a template that provides (partial) answers:

• {{gender|Ceradon}} = he
• {{gender|Ritchie333}} = he
• {{gender|Alakzi}} = they

--Floquenbeam (talk) 22:08, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

More than about gender, I would care about winning Alakzi back to this project, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:20, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

I can't find a template for that. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:22, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Read the amnesty dreams marked dangerous, and don't expect an unblock request, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Ah, haven't been around today and wasn't up to speed, I didn't realize they'd been blocked. Dysfunction (institutional and personal): 463,792 - Wikipedia:0. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:38, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Blocked three times, first time a harmless mistake, second time a big mistake, third time - no fitting words. Unblock if you have courage, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:42, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Not a matter of courage, a matter of figuring out the right thing. Hang on... --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:12, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

thank you, - will try to sleep, dreaming of more wisdom like this: "If you step on someone's toes, and they yell at you, and you have an issue with their tone, you could at least move your foot first." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

What the hell just happened? I go to dinner for an hour, and Nuclear Warfare breaks out? I am stunned and deeply saddened, and not quite sure I understand what has occurred. I spoke my piece on the SPI talk page, but I have no idea if anyone is listening at this point. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 23:48, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't know. Thank you, Floq, for unblock. I don't think I ever dared to use a short version of your name before, but feel understood and like rhymes. Relieved, but I will not yet remove the green "just" from my sorrowbox - because would you keep editing in a place treating you like this? (like I do.) - and the dedication of spirit and soul become confused to Alakzi seems quite right at this point, gone or not (I hope not). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:37, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

"Floq" is fine, as I say on my userpage (hopefully "GA" is OK too, since I've been doing that for years). Sunny day here - if I was in school, I'd probably play hooky - but looking outside my window improves my mood. Hope something similar works for you. --Floquenbeam (talk) 12:33, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

Working on Preise, Jerusalem, den Herrn has to, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:40, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Markus Brutscher

Materialscientist (talk) 00:12, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

Sufficiently ashamed

You're pretty smart, perceptive. (Did you read my mind? How did you do that? [I also thought afterwords my rollback was too quick & unfortunate. I rationalized that "main" s/b understood before using its template, and also why is a new user applying templates?! But there are no rules what a new user might do!]) Tried my best to clean up. Ok, IHTS (talk) 11:23, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

You seem to read my mind because I just wrote that some people may not know what "ashamed" means, - you do, but don't have to ;) - It happened more than once that I was reverted, wondered and the reason was an incidental rollback, - I didn't even look in the case you mentioned, life is too short ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:40, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

"Life is too short" and ... WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!! ;) IHTS (talk) 12:22, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

You read my mind again --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

I recently watched movie Immortal Beloved - have you seen? (Near the beginning, carrying the casket thru a throng of fans - recording by the London Symph [they are always the best] - very moving.) IHTS (talk) 13:00, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

thanks for sharing, no, haven't seen yet. Do you know the famous line from Der Kontrabaß: "Als Schubert so alt war wie ich, war er schon vier Jahre tot."(When Schubert was my age, he was already four years dead.)? My brother plays the part from time to time and is pictured in the last external ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:09, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Preise, Jerusalem, den Herrn

praise the Lord--Symposiarch (talk) 20:48, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Erforsche mich, Gott, und erfahre mein Herz--Symposiarch (talk) 20:49, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

You find a cantata title for every situation. Today's is My heart swims in blood, next Sunday: Spirit and soul become confused, dedicated - see my user page - to Alakzi, blocked five times (still at present), never for a good reason, confused with Jack Merridew resulting in inherited hate, subjected to four SPIs, - a most helpful person for me, now available only by email, - the waste of potential on this site lets your heart swim in blood. Praise the Lord. Look at all these cantatas (FA, GA and GAN level), especially the tables possible by Alakzi. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:04, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Percussion Concerto No. 2 (MacMillan)

Thanks for helping with the main page of Wikipedia Victuallers (talk) 13:29, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Rosa Lamoreaux

Gatoclass (talk) 18:17, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

GA review request

Hello, Gerda. Would you be willing to provide a GA review for Perovskia atriplicifolia. I'll understand if you're too busy or disinterested. RO^(talk) 20:25, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

I should probably place somewhere visible that I don't do GA reviews, - due to my lack of English, - I can't judge prose. I do FA reviewing where I can focus on my aspects. - If you like to review, I am - by now rather desperately - waiting for someone to review the spirit which becomes confused, because I should have nominated it for DYK today ;) - I will place yours on our requests, if you don't mind, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

I tried to give some GA reviews in the past, but at least two people harshly criticized my work and judgement, so I stopped doing it. I do peer reviews now because there's no pressure of messing it up and getting criticized for missing a point or two. So if you ever need a peer review please don't hesitate to ask me, but I don't think I'll be doing GA reviews anytime soon. Sorry. RO^(talk) 21:04, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Hermann Eggert

Gatoclass (talk) 07:22, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Alakzi

Hi Gerda, I was impressed when I saw you fight to get this user unblocked. However, by a strange coincidence I was looking at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion after seeing an IP posting at WikiProject Council. With the name Alakzi fresh in my mind I was surprised to see that most of the "discussions" there are Delete votes by this user. I don’t know what the particulars are, but it worries me when I see a user who is always voting Delete. Just thought you would be interested. Ottawahitech (talk) 08:36, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

I didn't fight at all, and I worked towards getting his talk page access restored, no more, in the name of free speech (and politeness). Read Precious to know what I like. A project is ongoing to simplify templates, have one instead of 2 to more, which means deleting 1 to more-1 ;) - Little time, dear guests, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Carl Nielsen works

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:37, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi Gerda. As you know, there are still quite a number of songs missing from the list but I don't know how important they are to non-Danish speakers. Adding them at this stage would upset your FAC. Maybe we should therefore just wait for reactions. As for List of compositions by Carl Nielsen, I included this as a redirect and there should therefore be no problem for those used to this form of titling. I'll try to help out if any issues arise during the FAC. Keep me informed.--Ipigott (talk) 07:44, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for all help! Lists don't have to be complete, I think, - perhaps it should say so explicitly in th lead. - See below also, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:04, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes, thanks for promoting interest in Nielsen twice the same day! On the table of works, there is one little thing that still bothers me a bit. You have the works nicely listed in the default version by symphonies, operas, concertos, etc., but as far as I can see, once the table has been sorted by the other headings, it is not easy to restore this version. The only way I can do it is to reload the article from scratch. Can this be improved?--Ipigott (talk) 09:18, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

It could be changed by sorting the genres in the order of the first presentation, but I don't know if that is an improvement. At present,sort by genre yields the "normal" order of stage works first. You can simply change the hidden sort {{hs}} if it's important to you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:09, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Tre Klaverstykker

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 07:53, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Wilke te Brummelstroete

Gatoclass (talk) 16:34, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Geist und Seele wird verwirret, BWV 35

The article Geist und Seele wird verwirret, BWV 35 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Geist und Seele wird verwirret, BWV 35 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tim riley -- Tim riley (talk) 18:01, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK

How's this look: Template:Did you know nominations/Perovskia atriplicifolia? RO^(talk) 20:52, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Later perhaps, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:29, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Geist und Seele wird verwirret, BWV 35

Gatoclass (talk) 11:19, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Michael Schopper

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:34, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Invitation to WikiProject TAFI

Hello, Gerda Arendt. You're invited to join WikiProject Today's articles for improvement, a project dedicated to significantly improving articles with collaborative editing in a week's time. Feel free to nominate an article for improvement at the project's Article nomination board. If interested in joining, please add your name to the list of members. Thanks for your consideration. North America1000 08:14, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, but no, I know my own missing improvement, more than I will manage in a lifetime, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:57, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. Since you're active at DYK, I figured it was worth a shot with the invite. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:14, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Sure, always worth trying, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:42, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Rolf Schweizer

Gerda, there hasn't been any progress on this nomination in the past week. Can you please get in touch with the creators, Dr. Blofeld and Furius, to see whether they are willing to work on the issues raised in the review?

If either is interested, then we can certainly wait a little while for them to make the necessary edits, so long as we know that they plan to do so. If neither is, and you aren't able to work on the article yourself, then the nomination will have to be closed, which would be a shame, but it doesn't make sense to keep it open if the article won't be changing to meet DYK requirements. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:00, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

I am of no help due to health issues, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:05, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Gerda, I'm very sorry to hear that, and hope things are better soon. In that case, we'll have to wait to see whether one of the creators is willing to take this on. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:02, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Preise, Jerusalem, den Herrn, BWV 119

The article Preise, Jerusalem, den Herrn, BWV 119 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Preise, Jerusalem, den Herrn, BWV 119 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Smerus -- Smerus (talk) 12:01, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

United States v. Washington Featured Article Candidate

United States v. Washington is undergoing evaluation for possible promotion to Featured Article at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/United States v. Washington/archive1. If you feel up to it, I would love for you to stop by and assist in assessing this article. GregJackP Boomer! 17:37, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

My time is limited these days, but I will keep it in mind - and on the list, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:38, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Update Bruckner's pages

Dear Gerda,

I have reviewed/updated the pages on Bruckner's early masses, psalm settings (mainly the by others created Psalm 150) and cantatas (mainly the Festive cantata, Germanenzug and the by others created Helgoland).
Next week, I will do the same for the other masses (Requiem, Missa solemnis and Masses Nos. 1, 2 & 3), the Magnificat and the Te Deum.
Thereafter, I will review the pages on the eleven symphonies. When looking to the updated content of their infoboxes, I have seen that some data about versions/edition should be completed/corrected. I will do it then.
And thereafter, the chamber music... and a review of the first created pages on the motets (when I did not yet have Harten's Bruckner Handbuch).

Have a fine Sunday! --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 19:12, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, good plans, - have a good Sunday, too. Heard his Eighth yesterday, 110 young people conducted by an experienced gentleman, an inspired performance of the Rheingau Musik Festival. Will be off next week, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Precious

do not fear

no service from 31 August

Thinking of you the most precious of the precious. (Littleolive oil (talk) 02:56, 1 September 2015 (UTC))

Thank you, also to those who sent emails such as "rest laughter beauty", - nothing else for a while, please --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:02, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Cantatas & Psalm settings (Bruckner)

Dear Gerda,

As I previously did for Bruckner's motets, Weltliche Chorwerke and masses, I have created synopsis pages for Bruckner's cantatas and psalm settings.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 11:39, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Will do Motets (Bach) when I get better, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:02, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Dear Gerda,

Are you sick? If yes, I wish you a quick recovery!

I have had a look on Bach's motets. Pages are created for the six motets, but two (BWV 225 & BWV 230) are currently "stubs".

Which order will you use for the overview page? That of the BWV, as in {{Bach motets}}? You can not use the date of composition, because it is doubtful or not known for most of them...

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:15, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Order by BWV number please, some general reflection on BWV 228, Gardiner source. If you can expand the stubs fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:24, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

I can draft a page "Motets (Bach)", based on the info, which I can find in the individual wiki pages. I am absolutely not a Bach specialist. I know only Jesu, meine Freude... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 15:10, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

I have draft the page Motets (Bach). Do not hesitate to expand/correct it, by e.g., adding references. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 15:52, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

PS: I have also added the IMSLP link, and the keys, which one can retrieve from the scores on ISMLP, when they are not mentioned on the individual pages. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:52, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

I have added BWV Anh 159 to the overview page Motets (Bach). I will look later for an illustration of the infobox. Best regards, Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:45, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! All motets would profit from such a thing ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:39, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

Picture added to the infobox of BWV Anh 159. OK so? --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 09:00, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. For that motet, Jacob's Ladder would be better. The image could go to other funeral motets, some of which first need expansion and an infobox ;) - A Baroque funeral with singers - perhaps just singers and musicians in dark clothes - would be even better.

Better so?

Yes! I also looked at this one, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:04, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Jewellery

This is rather off the cuff, but you kindly sent me a barnstar with I think a sapphire on it, a gemstone anyway, some months ago. Currently I am trying to translate Draft:Bijou (jewellery) but making a bit of a fist of it, if you could maybe scan it and make sure it is not too awful, that would be grand. (It's not A rhinestone as big as the Ritz, though). Si Trew (talk) 06:03, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Ad libitum: Latin version of "off-the-cuff". — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:12, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

• • • Ad libidem please. Si Trew (talk) 11:38, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

P'haps a Wikilink (?} — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 10:16, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

later perhaps, and I would need the link --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:02, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

I moved it into main, and is now at Bijou (jewellery). Si Trew (talk) 21:11, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Simon, I took a brief look, confess to like the second image better than the first, so would swap. Is this also a bijou? Will look closer later, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

I am pretty sure it could be called that, Arendt, i just translated the article, I am no expert in these things but kinda just translated word for word. One day maybe we can have Breakfast at Tiffanys together and discuss it, then. I don't speak German very well so I am a bit lost in how this would be translated into English. Si Trew (talk) 11:37, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Call me Gerda ;) - If it can be called that, include the image at some appropriate place which might even be the lead ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:59, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Suggestion

Hi Gerda! Your "Precious" has always been a great motivation for me. I would like to suggest Cwmhiraeth's name for the next receiver of this unique and prestigious award. You would come to know at once how tireless, dedicated and sincere he/she is as a Wikipedian. He/She does deserve this amazing recognition! Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 17:18, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

I give it only once to a person, to this user on 11 May 2012, fully agree with your appreciation. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:01, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Bruckner's Psalm 146 in Ebrach

Gerd Schaller has performed Bruckner's Psalm 146 and Mass No. 3 today, at the 25th Ebrach Summer Music Festival. I have heard it via Bayerischer Rundfunk Klassik. It is a nice performance, with good choir and soloists, with balance between orchestra and choir somewhat in favour of the orchestra. This fourth (!) world performance of Bruckner's "forgotten" Psalm 146 — a 30-minute long cantata for double mixed choir, soloists and large orchestra, composed in c. 1858 — will be issued later on CD. It will become, 45 years later (!), a second valued recording of the work. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 19:29, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Hope

Heading for Munich – September 2015

"I am happy that Germany has become a country that many people outside of Germany now associate with hope. This is something to cherish when you look back at our history." – Angela Merkel

Sca (talk) 14:48, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for adding hope, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:44, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Kindness is always in short supply but not often enough nutured or valued!

DYK for Fürchte dich nicht, BWV 228

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

BWV 4

I'm not opposed to date related noms, and dreadful pun nr7; go for it, the road is clear. Ceoil (talk) 08:31, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, will work on it eventually with Thoughtfortheday, after a few more weekly GAs, BWV 161 next, BWV 51 and others nominated, - do you do GA reviews, btw? Anybody else reading here? - sorry, missed the pun ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Road/road. Yeah, would be happy to do a GA review, just ping. Have worked with Thoughtfortheday before. Ceoil (talk) 08:50, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, for explanation and offer. Pick one to your liking with the candidate image (6 open) on my user page. 51 is the most cheerful one, and should appear on DYK the 17th ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:54, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Jauchzet Gott in allen Landen, BWV 51

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Jauchzet Gott in allen Landen, BWV 51 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Drmies -- Drmies (talk) 02:00, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

Your kind notices, often tendered out of public sight, are appreciated. We sometimes cross paths when I'm editing as an IP, and it's a pleasure to see you editing alongside many of my old friends here. Cheers, JNW (talk) 16:21, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the open thanks! The others are public as well, and some don't like them ;) - It was a pleasant surprise to see your name on my watchlist! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:21, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Princess Johanna of Hesse and by Rhine

An editor just left a note on my talk page asking for support at Talk:Princess Johanna of Hesse and by Rhine. I read the article Princess Johanna of Hesse and by Rhine first, then the section Talk:Princess Johanna of Hesse and by Rhine#Original research and the section just after it, and I realize I can't say anything because I don't know anything about the subject matter or even whether the source mentioned by the other editor is a reliable source. I suspect it is, and the editor who asked for my support is engaging in OR, but I'm not sure. I thought, since this is about German history, that you might like to add your opinion on the article's talk page. Corinne (talk) 23:47, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi. I asked Corrine for help because I don't think that Johanna had either the title of Princess or the style Her Grand Ducal Highness as there was no Grand Duchy of Hesse and her lifetime was during the notoriously anti-Kaiserreich Hitler regime. Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 07:10, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Understood. I think that's what I supported saying even people who WERE dukes. If unclear feel free to explain. It's nothing specifically German, Nikolaus Harnoncourt would carry a long name if former Austrian nobility (also dropped in 1918) was applied, but even then: not at the beginning, would be "Nikolaus Graf etc.". I'm sorry that I don't have the time (nor interest in the subject) to dig into the article, but feel free to ask me to look at specific points. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:25, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

You can move Johanna's article to the name it should be. I've had abuse in recent days from monarchists. Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 07:42, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

You could start a formal move request, WP:RM, - I would support. (Example on Schloss Weimar.) Perhaps mention the topic on project Germany and find someone to do it for you. I don't even know what the correct name would be, but at least dropped the "Princess" in this header ;) - See above: little interest in the subject, see higher up: limited service (and just changed from "very limited service"). Btw: no need for a ping on my own talk ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:55, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Gerda, when I left this comment I hadn't seen your post higher up on this page that you would be away from internet service for a while starting on August 31. I hope you are well. Corinne (talk) 19:26, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Limited well --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Siehe, ich will viel Fischer aussenden, BWV 88

The article Siehe, ich will viel Fischer aussenden, BWV 88 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Siehe, ich will viel Fischer aussenden, BWV 88 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jaguar -- Jaguar (talk) 19:01, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Evangelienmotetten

As promised! Please feel free to amend or expand it as you see fit. Prioryman (talk) 12:46, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, - done before you asked. Bach's motets don't use gospel, just bible. Any Magnificat motet would also fall in the group in a way, right? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:50, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

the 20th-century motets capture a full passage such as one parable, not just one Spruch, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:28, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Help!

They want to merge Salzburg Festival with Opera Repertory of the Salzburg Festival 2015. I oppose. They remove stage pics from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and move pics from Le nozze di Figaro to the bottom of the page. Bad boys! --Meister und Margarita (talk) 19:31, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

I understand, I am of little help these days, look around, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:15, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tue Rechnung! Donnerwort, BWV 168

The article Tue Rechnung! Donnerwort, BWV 168 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Tue Rechnung! Donnerwort, BWV 168 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Jaguar -- Jaguar (talk) 21:21, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

David Willcocks

Hi Gerda, if you or any talk-page watchers get the opportunity to do some cleaning and polishing at the article of the late Sir David Willcocks of King's College Cambridge choir fame, that would be lovely. I've nominated him for the "recent deaths" section at In the news but the article is presently unfit for the main page. Hopefully the obituaries that have just started to come out will make it easier to improve the unreferenced or undetailed sections. Thanks, Bencherlite^Talk 00:06, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Sad news. Thank you for thinking of me. I will look, but you probably saw above that I am not of much help right now. I managed to help Jon Vickers in a similar matter. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:40, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Infoboxes Bruckner's motets & Weltliche Chorwerke

Dear Gerda,

FYI: I have checked the infoboxes of Bruckner's motets and Weltliche Chorwerke, and added the date & location of their first publication.

I have also reviewed/updated the page Magnificat (Bruckner). I have begun to review/update the page Te Deum (Bruckner). It is not easy to review/update pages, which were initiated by other users...

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 17:00, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Komm, du süße Todesstunde, BWV 161

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A cookie for you ...

Just smile

DYK for Rolf Schweizer

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:07, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Es ist das Heil uns kommen her, BWV 9

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New article FYI

I tacked a redlink for Johann Wanning - you might be interested in taking a look. The dewiki article is pretty basic, maybe you could expand it a bit with some material from the new English article? Prioryman (talk) 13:59, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Man singet mit Freuden vom Sieg, BWV 149

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Szmytka

You are the music expert and speak German. I find several scholarly works on Jagoda Szmytka but cannot access them. Do you have access to sources or any of these: [17], [18], [19], which might improve the file? SusunW (talk) 18:33, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

The first doesn't have her when I search, the second is in English, I'll ask about the third, don't have access myself, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:53, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	I just wanted to thank you for the kindness and care you bring to almost every discussion you participate in. Liz Read! Talk! 23:53, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, Liz, I try, it's my battleground and a tough one, - look for "kindness" above (unsigned) ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:06, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

A bunny for you

The "soft bunny" of happiness and tranquility.

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:33, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

It made me cry, did you know? Thank you. Please no fixed sizes for images ;) - see also "because would you keep editing in a place treating you like this?", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:36, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm glad you liked it. It's the best bunny of all. But, I must mention, you link to him again. You are communicating through them. Would you like to communicate openly? After all, Wikipedia is an open place. It is probably best to get things out in the air. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:09, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

This is my talk page, which I consider an open place, linking to whom I like. Right now, I try to "communicate" to you, nobody else. Feel invited to read a bit for background, including my health or lack thereof ("rest laughter beauty"), and especially the (archived) thread Boys will be boys (if only for a gender question). "Free speech" and "editor retention" are two of my projects. I try to stay calm, but confess that it is hard, - that's why "tranquility" made me cry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:46, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Gerda. Tranquility, yes. That is paramount. Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I've always liked you. You are friendly and point out nice things in others. I think you are very, very compassionate too -- overly sometimes, to be honest. But your heart is in the right place. Of that I am completely certain. I don't know where to look to find out about your health. I'm sorry that you have issues there. Really, I am.

As for "A", gender is not an issue here as far as I am concerned. This is a question of doing our best to help the improvement of Wikipedia. I am a bit of a bean counter here. I think we have to weigh it out and ask if the decisions we make result in a net positive. "A" made great edits, but was also is someone who was here for a year, was blocked many times, and was way over the line in terms of civility. When an editor is as disruptive as "A" was, it makes an environment that chases away other, beautiful people who are also important. It also causes such waste that could be used to improve articles.

Your many links to "A" constitute an agenda and strong statement, namely: I wish "A" were back for the sake of "A" and Wikipedia too. Well, "A" doesn't want to be back, so there's that. "A" could have taken personal responsibility and chosen not to be so uncivil (Help those who help themselves). Plus, are you sure Wikipedia would be better of with "A" here? I mean, think of the enormous hours and keystrokes taken away from article building. That's the bottom line to me.

About "free speech" and "editor retention", both are very important to me. Many of my efforts are very much about the latter. So, free speech. Please, speak up. I urge you to use words instead of communicating by linking to "A"s posts as a way of sending a message to the community. Clear speech. Be brave. Speak up. Post formally somewhere if you so feel strongly. See what the community thinks, and then trust the community. I do. Sorry for the long post. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:21, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for trying. My view: "A" was the best thing (no: person) happening to me on Wikipedia in terms of competence, ability to teach, sharing ideas and values, and cheers. (May you others forgive me, and it's saying a lot because I have enjoyed excellent support by many, and said so 1000+ times.) "A" left (asked to be blocked) because we (the community) acted as we did. I respect that and expect no return. I don't take the suggestion well not to mention the name. If I point at an edit from which we (the community) can learn (as about the image size) that's improving the encyclopedia. I would have liked to learn much more. Look for "consolation" on my user page. - Back to work, - the name not mentioned but gratefully thought. The article is planned to be TFA next Easter, - I try to keep myself going by setting a long-term goal. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:16, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Rolf Beck

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:23, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Re: Precious again

Thank you. For me it is an honor to receive your award once more. Tony the Marine (talk) 15:14, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

... just a reminder ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:26, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Just the same, thank you for reminding me. What made the award special is that it came from you, a Wikipedian who encourages others to continue their work here, unlike some others whom have dedicated themselves to harassing and discouraging others. For that I still give you Mil Gracias, Tony the Marine (talk) 05:51, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! I have no time to discourage others, I need it all to sing the praises of those who have just given up (see above). I do not even have time anymore to give Precious and reminders daily, do it only when I feel like it. For you, I did! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:13, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

What is your favorite classical piece?

Over time I have noticed you like classical music, I like the Brandenburg Concertos here. [20] In that piece you can hear the harpsichord something that is sadly a thing of the past. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:44, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

The question has been answered before me: always the one I just singing. These days: Requiem and Cantique de Jean Racine, and Petite messe solennelle. All-time favourite: Dona nobis pacem. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:56, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, I will have to listen to those sometime, I like to close my eyes here and picture a story that goes along with the music. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:28, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Try the Cantique, a gentle evening song written when the composer was still a student, winning him a prize, - soothing, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:49, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Wow, it is soothing I sense a bit of sadness in it moving towards hopeful. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 20:21, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, good sense, - what I meant was more that the other two demand a lot of attention and offer few images, other than the ending of the first mass is downright desolate while that of the second is the most uplifting piece I know, -sang it the day before the Iraq War decision, 16 March, - I still feel it in my spine thinking of it, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:57, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

Another new composer article

Managed to fill the redlink on Evangelienmotetten for Andreas Raselius. As ever, please feel free to add or amend as you see fit. Prioryman (talk) 21:46, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! What I did was adding the two to List of composers by name, and creating a redirect from the last name for this one. The other might need a hat note on Wanning, - no time for that, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:21, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Man singet mit Freuden vom Sieg, BWV 149

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:23, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Erfurter Bahn

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Meh!

Gerda, I had a GAN review going for you before my RfA, then got so distracted with that circus I have now forgotten which article it was I was reviewing! So sorry! Can you point me to it? I'll get back to work on it! Montanabw^(talk) 06:59, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

my heart swims in blood - the perfect match for an RfA? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:06, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

Indeed. Couldn't be more apt. Montanabw^(talk) 19:14, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for approving it! For some reason, the GA bot didn't pick it up, wasn't listed in classical musical alerts, for example. Next year we may have There arose a war, hopefully not apt ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:24, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Preise, Jerusalem, den Herrn, BWV 119

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 18:24, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK has its moments: Nikolaikirche is the church where the Monday demonstrations started which ultimately led to today's 25th anniversary of Germany's reunification, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:35, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Ich lasse dich nicht, BWV Anh 159

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 18:55, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Ich will den Kreuzstab gerne tragen, BWV 56

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Got anymore?

Hello Gerda,

Do you know of any sacred choral music like the Cantique de Jean Racine that is really nice to hear? I like Cantique de Jean Racine because it's rather melodic and you can even hum to it. Any recommendations will do. I'm always willing to discover more. Étienne Dolet (talk) 17:24, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Abendlied, by Gabriel Rheinberger, - off to rehearsal of Cantique and Requiem, will think of Henning Mankell who died and Floquenbeam who left us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:46, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

There's also Beati by Charles Villiers Stanford, - during rehearsal I thought of the music alone, now I am back to mourning becomes Gerda --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:58, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I enjoyed them both. Étienne Dolet (talk) 19:33, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Have you seen the movie Les choristes? I'm sure you'll enjoy it. Étienne Dolet (talk) 19:46, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

I bet I would. Loved As It Is in Heaven: "create music that will open a person's heart" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:07, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

I'll check that out ASAP. I trust your judgement. Étienne Dolet (talk) 23:18, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

What a nice thing to say ;) - All choral music here is recommended, - thinking about Es ist ein Ros entsprungen (Sandström) for Christmas again. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:24, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

That was very pleasant. I've been to Germany during Christmas and it's fabulous. Have you learned German by learning all these songs? Étienne Dolet (talk) 04:14, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

I have a user page ;) - I live there, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:43, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Erforsche mich, Gott, und erfahre mein Herz, BWV 136

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Erforsche mich, Gott, und erfahre mein Herz, BWV 136 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of JackTheVicar -- JackTheVicar (talk) 14:20, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

• I've done my initial review of the BWV136 article--and I have a few things for you to address. JackTheVicar (talk) 20:05, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Awesome WPn

Are you the founder (or something) of "Awesome Wikipedian" award? I want to know as I am intrigued by this "honor". If so, good job! -- Frankie _talk 18:37, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

It was "founded" in 2007, several people followed, - history and full list under Wikipedia:QAI/Awesome Wikipedian, - I do it for a project aiming at improved article quality, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:41, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK for De profundis (Pärt)

Gatoclass (talk) 22:05, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

You did ask...

File:Oil Field Worker 1933 Lock-Batan.jpg	The Grease Monkey Oily Award
	For profound contributions in the field of oiled grease-monkeying. Yunshui 雲水 09:22, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

But I don't deserve it, I am only a monster ;) + I miss "character" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:38, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

note:

You sure don't miss very much. :-) — Ched :  ?  12:40, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

not from you, - we obviously thanked for the same edit ;) - How do you like my latest barnstar above? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:46, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

It made me smile - although I'm not sure I fully understand it. :-) — Ched :  ?  13:33, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

if you didn't get this 9 months ago ... yay!

• 
  2015 Erasmus Prize
  Awarded to the Wikipedia community collectively

starship.paint ~ KO 05:08, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for letting us know, I missed it, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

• ^_^ starship.paint ~ KO 07:08, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Re: Precious

It occurred to me that you posting about being awarded the Precious award last year reminded me that that was given during my RfA. Can't say that was something worth reminded of. Though being called the "Red user" was nice. GamerPro64 20:22, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Catholic

Guten Tag, Frau Arendt

Ich heisse Ivain. Entschuldigen Sie mir, bitte; mein Deutsch ist sehr schlimm. I added ein Paar Worten to the Catholic Church page, but you deleted these. I added them again, and this time with my source. Bitte, darf ich frage? if you remove my words again, and my source, too, to write on my page. Danke viele mal. Ivain Ivain (talk) 18:19, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

You added to the lead (summary) of Catholic Church although there is a message "Please discuss before removing "Roman Catholic" or making any other changes to the opening sentence. This sentence was decided on after a prolonged process of discussion and consensus."

• It would have told me not to change without discussion first.
• There is a procedure WP:BRD which means that yes, you can make a bold edit like that but if you are reverted the discuss on the talk page, - talk of the article, not of the reverter.
• What makes you think I would revert you again. Someone else did.
• A lead should be as concise as possible. I think that your addition was in the way of the flow of the first sentence, before a reader even knew what the article is about.
• The lead is a summary, without sources. If added with a source, perhaps try in the body of the article.

Could I clarify a bit? Call me Gerda, please. - I don't like mix of German and English, - think of people reading this page who don't speak German at all. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:42, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Erfurter Bahn

Gatoclass (talk) 03:03, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the invitation to this ride, Alakzi! Did you know that my grandfather was a train driver and my grandmother from Thuringia? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:51, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Ich will den Kreuzstab gerne tragen, BWV 56

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 14:46, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

New music files

Hi Gerda. FYI, today I proposed adding new Bach music files at Talk:Klavierbüchlein für Wilhelm Friedemann Bach, ‎Talk:The Musical Offering, and Talk:Brandenburg Concertos. Also, regarding the article Lute Suite in E minor, BWV 996, I am mulling over whether it might be a good idea to remove the music files that are there because they are already at Lautenwerck, and also because they are very unusual, and then insert these more standard music performances:

Jsbach bwv996 01.ogg Jsbach bwv996 02.ogg Jsbach bwv996 03.ogg Jsbach bwv996 04.ogg Jsbach bwv996 05.ogg Jsbach bwv996 06.ogg

Any feedback from you would be appreciated. Cheers.Anythingyouwant (talk) 20:21, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Please be patient, I am in the process of packing for vacation, - limited service during the rest of October. -Hint: could you please start a new topic, instead of using the last header, which is a bit confusing in watchlists, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:26, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Sure, my edit summary said "new section" but next time I'd be glad to use the "new section" tab. No problem! Have a nice vacation. If no one comments at the talk pages, then I will proceed. Cheers.Anythingyouwant (talk) 20:29, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Praying for good health

• 
  A rainbow not too far away in Frankfurt is always a good omen.
• 
  In China, a Tiger is considered to have special powers and give strength and good health
• 
  In Tibet, a Khata is given as a goodwill gesture and will help ward off unpleasant forces and keep you safe and bring you good luck.

Please get better Gerda, whatever our differences with infoboxes, we do know that you're a good woman at heart who needs to remain with us. So wishing you all the strength and goodness you need to fully recover. God bless you.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:58, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, almost feel it working ;) - off tomorrow to vacation in Portugal, will not disturb things much for the rest of the months, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:25, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Guinness for strength; Guinness for health.

Dear Gerda, saw this and just want to say whatever challenges you are facing, I wish you strength and the very, very best of health soon. You are in my thoughts and prayers. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:58, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Enjoy your holiday Gerda! I've not been to Portugal since 1991! There's a place called Lagos, Portugal which is a wee bit fishy ;-)♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:09, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

I saw this too and am sending all positive energies flowing your way. Hopes that you have a restful and healing vacation. SusunW (talk) 14:49, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Sending prayers your way Gerda. Caden ^cool 16:33, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

"Top of the world", to you Gerda

Dear Gerda, sending my very best wishes and prayers to you. Have a lovely holiday. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:51, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

I feel quite blessed, thank you all, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

I hope you are well, Gerda. Enjoy your holiday! Best wishes JAGUAR  22:02, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Hiked up, down to the beach Praia Cordoama, back on the beach to Praia Castelejo

From the southwest tip, outside, no internet in the room ;) - Thanks for the inspiring images and a GA! - I would like to see the article with an infobox that mentions the things Bach mentioned on the title page (see talk) and a recording table with the Alakzi colours (see GA review). Heading in, getting cool in the breeze from the sea, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:09, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

So hope everything is "tip top" with you. :) Martinevans123 (talk) 19:15, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

I go by Ermutigung (memorable DYK, DYK?) - Work on my wishes, to go for tip-top ;) - As in fairy tales you always have three wishes, there's Verdi also. For background on the Alakzi colours and other ways to improve articles, go see and feed WP:QAIPOST where I mentioned Sinatra, but only for image size thoughts --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:07, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

• Yes, Gerda, you simply must be in the pink, now or very soon. We cannot carry on without you. Wishing you all the best, with abundant good music. Have a very blessed vacation in Portugal. I hope it's a lovely visit. Softlavender (talk) 09:18, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

• Please be well and I wish you all the necessary strength from any available God to get there. Portugal can be a bit rainy this time of year, but it's a lovely friendly country, especially if you are able to get away from the big cities, and great if you enjoy eating fish. Also those little egg custard "flan" things they serve you with your morning coffee in the bars in Lisbon. Of course, there are people who will tell you there's more to life than food. Which is probably true, but I don't think the great JSB ever made it to Portugal. But Portugal has plenty of art, history and culture of its own. I remember being rather taken with Evora. Success Charles01 (talk) 09:59, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
• Just noticed this... you'll be in the thoughts and prayers of the Khazar family as well! Feel better. -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:01, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
• I wish that you will restore soon, so that we can take again advantage of your appreciated expertise. You know that I am a medical doctor. Do not hesitate to contact me be e-mail. Best regards, Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:40, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

re GA reviews

I saw you mentioning GA reviews. Some open ones are are at WP:QAIPOST, which is also a forum of free speech ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:42, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for the note, Gerda Arendt, and for your interest in Freedom of speech !!! But perhaps as you can see from above on my user talk page, I've got enough reviewing on my plate at the moment. :) — Cirt (talk) 10:45, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

My note was much more general: look there anytime and post anytime. For immediate action, I find other ways ;) + see above what really matters, vacation for example, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

re Delqual

Thanks for your helpful note !

I've posted to WP:QAIPOST.

The page functions on its own at WP:Deletion to Quality, would rather have it as a standalone independent awards page, like WP:Million Award.

However, I'm curious, what do you mean by award given by QAI ? I mean anyone can give out the WP:DELQUALITY award, just like anyone can give out WP:MILLION.

I do think it dovetails very nicely with both WP:WikiProject Quality Improvement and WP:Article Rescue Squadron, by the way. :)

— Cirt (talk) 09:29, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Fine, understand, I think. "Precious", the QAI award, is (now) a project award. Anyone can give it (and it has occasionally been done), but - named after one founder and designed by another - it carries personal meaning, on top of quality in general, and I don't give it to (the many) users who have shown dislike of one of them/us, however high the quality of their achievements, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:38, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Ah okay, makes sense. Well, I do hope that WP:DELQUAL will catch on soon, and we'll start to see it being given out and awarded by multiple editors. :) — Cirt (talk) 09:40, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

It's a great idea! On the page, perhaps have not so many headers, to have the list of recipients "sooner"? Pipe-link, to avoid repetition of "... for deletion"? Have user names in one line by {{nowrap}}? Have months as three letters? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:56, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

I just designed it straight after WP:MILLION. Yeah I really do like the idea, that of recognizing the effort our editors put in, to a page previously endangered of being deleted, to getting it to a high level of quality assessment. But yeah I can try and make some tweaks and modifications, thank you ! — Cirt (talk) 09:58, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Also, per Category:Deletion to Quality Award candidates, I think that the "Hall of Fame" might (hopefully) get to be a pretty big long list. So probably best to move it to a subpage. — Cirt (talk) 10:00, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Just yesterday, I tried to rescue one, but am afraid David Hamilton (tenor) will not go to GA, even if kept ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:02, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Sort of outside my general topics of interest, but good luck ! — Cirt (talk) 10:04, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

(ec) The hall of Precious is long (today I remembered #1009 from a year ago), and has to be, because users normally get it only once, - the list has to be complete to check. Casliber, for example, received Precious four times, by four different people. - Interest or not, you could say that he is notable, and after the copyvio (which wasn't even mentioned) is gone, is even factual, - you can compare to the tagged version we had, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:10, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, I've made some changes to WP:DELQUAL, based on your suggestions, above. — Cirt (talk) 10:12, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Reviewing Pasticciotto article for DYK

Hi Gerda! Thanks again for your constructive comments on the article Pasticciotto that I created and nominated for DYK. I noticed, though, that you listed the Pasticciotto article as having been reviewed by you as part of your nomination of Salve Regina (Latry). A full DYK review includes checking that an article is new enough, long enough, and complies with Wikipedia policies, especially with regard to plagiarism, as well as evaluating the hook and any image, including whether the image is licensed appropriately. Whatever you find should be stated explicitly, even if it's as simple as "no copyvio" or "image permissions OK" (areas that need improvement should have a more detailed explanation of what's wrong with them).

So, if you covered all of those areas in your look at Pasticciotto, you should state that explicitly in a comment on the Pasticciotto nomination. If not, you should either do the full review and report all your findings, or take the notation off your own nomination if you don't want to do the full review. Again, thanks for your advice about Pasticciotto, and thanks in advance if you do decide to do a complete review. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 17:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for writing. I reviewed some 700 articles for DYK, so think I know what I'm doing, formalities not my strongest ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:45, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Please accept my apologies for implying you didn't know what you were doing. And thanks once again for the review. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 22:09, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Aus tiefer Not schrei ich zu dir, BWV 38

Thanks for the contribution Victuallers (talk) 00:57, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Good to see ya! Don't know how much I'll be back for, but hope to pitch in at least a bit. I think doing only one article a time and no longer keeping a watchlist may be a recipe against wiki-burnout. But it's great to see that you're still spreading wikilove from one corner of the 'pedia to the other. Your efforts here are always appreciated! -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:59, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Happy to see ya! One corner is the cabal of the outcasts, where I created a template today, will do a few more such as popcorn ;) - If you want to post anything related to improvement of articles, such as don't block content creators, feel free to add to WP:QAIPOST. - I like to receive fresh baklava, that might be another idea! I kept your last one under "blushing" (above) where I look when I need refreshment. Facing the natural pools (left) in gentle rain, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:49, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

ps: if you still do GA reviews, open ones are also found on our POST page, Schmücke dich is an especially lovely topic, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:52, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

For you, I'd love to. It may be a few days before I can post a review but I'll claim it right now. -- Khazar2 (talk) 17:01, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Lovely, and no rush. It was written for the 20th Sunday after Trinity Sunday, which was on 18 October, and appeared on DYK anyway before. I had Aus tiefer Not schrei ich zu dir, BWV 38 appearing right on time yesterday as a new GA, but was not happy with the quality, see its talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:13, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Hey, welcome back Khazar2 - I have a couple of GAs in the pile if you want to have a look. Gerda, I really should make a point of improving Sophie Wilson and Carol Kaye to GA - I think both are total and utter geniuses who deserve far more recognition than they really have, although Wilson appearing in the Science Museum and Kaye appearing in the Wrecking Crew movie, that may change. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:08, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Ritchie. Good to see you too. I'm not sure how actively I'll get into GA reviewing again but you will definitely be on the "for old time's sake" list. Glad to see you're still producing awesome articles. -- Khazar2 (talk) 17:18, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Schmücke dich, o liebe Seele, BWV 180

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German Peasants' War

Hello, Gerda - How are you? I've been reading the article German Peasants' War, and I've come across a few things that need attention. I don't know whom to ask, so I thought I'd ask you.

1) At the end of the third paragraph in German Peasants' War#Lesser nobility is the following sentence:

• At odds with all other estaments in Germany, the lesser nobility was the least disposed to change.

I don't think "estaments" is an English word. I thought perhaps it should be "estimates", but that doesn't make much sense, either. It is making a distinction between the lesser nobility and all other classes, or groups, in Germany at the time. Perhaps "estates", or "classes", "groups", "sectors of society"?

2) At the end of the first paragraph in German Peasants' War#Clergy is the following sentence:

• However, Renaissance humanism was still strongly connected with the Church (and some popes) and churches, its proponents had gone to Church schools.

As you can see, there is something wrong with this sentence, but since I don't know the history, I'm not sure how to fix it.

3) Also, I'm just a little puzzled by something else. At the beginning of the section German Peasants' War#Clergy, it says:

• The clergy in 1525 were the intellectuals of their time.

Now, it is true that in the third sentence it says, "the clergy was beginning to lose its overwhelming intellectual authority", but it doesn't say the clergy were dropping to the bottom of the intellectual heap. Then we read, in the second sentence of the next paragraph, "Clerical ignorance" was "rampant". There's no indication of the passage of a great amount of time, so how did the clergy go from being "the intellectuals of their time" to being a group among whom "ignorance" was "rampant"? Corinne (talk) 14:41, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

You are probably right, but being on vacation, it's not the first thing I will care about. How about asking project Germany? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:05, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I'm sorry, Gerda. I didn't see your notice at the top of the page until now. Of course I'll ask someone else. Thanks for the suggestion. Corinne (talk) 23:43, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement 2

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Gerda, the case-name has been changed. However, there will be no opportunity to suggest anything in the workshop phase, as you said you might, since there will be no workshop phase, per above. 75.108.94.227 (talk) 15:12, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!

Happy Halloween!

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Hello Gerda Arendt:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!
    – Codename Lisa (talk) 23:11, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.

Halloween has been a sad day for me in 2010 (Rlevse left) and 2012:

nice edit notice ;)

• http://wikipediocracy.com/2012/10/31/tis-the-season-to-be-banning-at-wikipedia/

• Mads Lange

A Halloween present from Wikipediocracy on my eighth anniversary. Best wishes. Mads Lange (talk) 09:28, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

'tis the season

Scary. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:03, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

The name "Rlevse" rings a bell. I think I've seen it on TV, as the name of a Wikipedian. But no details comes to my mind. Still, his userpage has a soft redirect to another user.

–Codename Lisa (talk) 20:49, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

PumpkinSky left also because of Halloween (in 2013), he wanted to be rehabilated by showing Grace Sherwood - the article over which Rlevse stumbled - as TFA. He's an admin on the commons, so not quite as sad a story. - Today's TFA about pumpkins is a nice tribute ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:03, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Good Article Barnstar
		For your contributions to bring Schmücke dich, o liebe Seele, BWV 180 to Good Article status. Thanks for your invariably excellent contributions. -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:38, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Mein Herze schwimmt im Blut, BWV 199

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

5 Million: We celebrate your contribution

	We couldn't have done it without you
	Well, maybe. Eventually. But the encyclopedia would not be as good. Celebrate 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:41, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Makes me smile how the red ribbon reminds me of the signature of a missed friend ;) - I just made a template about our goals of "kindness, generosity, forgiveness and compassion", feel free to use it if you agree: {{User kindness}}. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:42, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Cantique de Jean Racine (Fauré)

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Fauré Requiem

Good luck with the Good Article nomination. Would you like me, as one of your co-authors, to field some queries at the GAN or would you prefer to steer the thing through without me putting my oar in? Quite happy either way, and yours to command. Tim riley talk 15:09, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Feel involved if you have the time! I remember having asked you earlier, and understood no, sorry if that was wrong. I could not answer questions regarding some older parts anyway. Going to sing it and the Cantique both 7 and 15 November. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:56, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Have time for the Faure Requiem? Always! (Pause for nostalgic memories: back in the early 1960s my rendering of the Pie Jesu had strong men reaching for their pocket-handcherchieves. Alas, after my voice broke, the resulting baritone has has about three and a half good notes in it, with unlovely croaks and wobbles further up and down the scale.) Last time I heard the Cantique it was in Fauré's own church, the Madeleine. I'll keep an eye on the GAN when it's opened, but nonetheless please prod me if anything comes up that you want reinforcements for dealing with. I have good reference material to hand on the genesis of the work and the revision history. Tim riley talk 16:16, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Remarkable memories! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:31, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

I didn't touch the history much, but could you perhaps get it in more chronological order? I read late that the libera me was written first (as for Verdi), but read before that it was not part of the first performance. Interesting, do we know more? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:05, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Tannhäuser

Gerda, I would appreciate your opinion on what has been going on on the Tannhäuser talk page, clearly very different visions. I moved on--Michael Goodyear (talk) 22:44, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Patience please, many content things waiting, + AN, - many different views on the Sibelius talk also, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:47, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

I hear you! Best wishes --Michael Goodyear (talk) 12:26, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Chronicler of the Winds

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Your GA nomination of Herr Christ, der einge Gottessohn, BWV 96

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DYK for Dominik Wörner

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Traunsee mit Traunkirchen

Traunsee mit Traunkirchen

Hafspajen (talk) 15:33, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Beautiful, thank you! Thanks for returning! Il ritorno! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:05, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

• d'Ulisse in patria ... Hafspajen (talk) 16:16, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

d'infobox in opera ;) - TFA, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:18, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

? - which one DYK? A Boyar Wedding Feast? (half an hour old, that one). Hafspajen (talk) 16:35, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

when I write DYK? it's short for did you know? ... that Ulisse's return is today's featured article. I had a DYK today, above, a singer of almost anything but opera. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:43, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

• GOSH, how slarvig of me.

how did you like my pöpcørn? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:46, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Love it. Maybe I should have popcorn for lead image for a while.... Hafspajen (talk) 17:50, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

just copy {{user popcorn|message=pöpcørn}}, message is variable, of course, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:30, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

Something healthy for you, that's still sweet and indulgent. Enjoy! —GrammarFascist contribstalk 04:27, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello, Gerda. I see from conversations further up your talk page that you are or were unwell; I hope that you get better soon, if you haven't recovered already.

I of course appreciate receiving thanks for edits, but your thanks for my reply to GorilllaWarfare about running for ArbCom made me a bit confused. I know you're busy; still, I'd appreciate it if you could clarify whether you were thanking me for offering GorillaWarrior my thanks and condolences, for my reasons for considering running, for something else, or for more than one thing. You've left me rather curious. Thanks in advance, GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 04:37, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, I was told that berries are very good for me! - I thank you for all these things + openly speak about yourself, thank you especially for running for arbcom, where you will have do deal with people who think it's all right to block a user for a month for having said he creates half of his featured content with women. I sent him a thank-you-click. You will have to face my question how we can improve arbitration enforcement. At present, it's evidently harmful for the project and its spirit. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

So Eric Corbett was blocked for a month just for making that comment? That seems like an egregious abuse of power, and exactly the sort of thing ArbCom should take strong action against. Like a lot of people with developmental disabilities I was bullied as a child, so I really dislike bullying in any form. As for an answer to your question about improving enforcement, I don't have a nice pat answer ready yet, but I will get back to you after I formulate one (or more likely a sticky complicated answer). Thank you very much for your support! It's a nice surprise before I've even declared my candidacy for certain. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 13:48, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

You will have seen (if not, the block is still on his talk, it made him laugh) that it was one of two alleged "violations". Two years ago (when I was freshly restricted by the arbitration committee and was told that AE is "not a fun place"), I had three questions for the candidates, last year one, to keep things simple. As for improving AE, I offered some thoughts in the last case. The simple way Eric says that it is not he who needs to change is my model for brevity and integrity. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:12, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Those links made for interesting reading, Gerda, thank you. I have to say I'm torn, because while I see your point that in many cases it would probably be better to pause, consider, and discuss violations with the person rather than just blocking them immediately, I have a strong inclination towards dealing strictly with bullies, and I don't think I would be comfortable maintaining a double standard when it came to arbitration enforcement of bully and non-bully editors facing sanctions. I'm not sure there would be consensus for having a zero-tolerance policy for bullies but a more relaxed policy for everyone else. (There would also be unending arguments about whether each individual for whom sanctions were sought was or wasn't a bully, since that would affect how AE was applied to them.) Unfortunately it seems there are no easy answers to this question. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 20:08, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Let's start simple: how can the edits (the other one was this) be considered as bullying or harmful? Step I in my thoughts. I would conclude: no action, at that point already. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, Gerda, I guess I was unclear. I didn't mean to say that I thought those edits were examples of bullying. What I meant was, my first reaction to your proposal that potential violations should be approached with caution, and discussed with the person subject to enforcement, rather than bannblocking them immediately for anything that might be a violation, was that it sounds like a good idea. We are here to build an encyclopedia, and it's hard to do that if too many of our editors are bannblocked from editing! But then I thought about how your proposal would be applied to cases of people under sanctions because of past bullying and subject to AE for further bullying. I tend to be in favor of a zero-tolerance policy against bullying. But it would be hypocritical to banblock bullies, no questions asked, at their first violations, but give everyone else the gentler approach you suggest. That's the difficulty I have with your proposal. I still like your proposal, and I'm trying to figure out a way to support both your proposal and a zero-tolerance policy against bullying without being a hypocrite. I may have to give up one or the other, since I hate hypocrisy almost as much as I hate bullying. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 14:10, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Please distinguish carefully blocking and banning, also normal blocks from arbitration enforcement blocks. Let's do step by step, your comment is already about step 2. Step 1: determine if an edit is in any way detrimental to the project, yes or no. If no, I could not care less if it violates a restriction, because I still (want to) believe that restrictions are set up to prevent damage, not to make editors stumble and then have reason to get rid of them. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:19, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Oops! Corrected where I said ban instead of block above. Okay, taking your step one: No, I would not proceed past step one in almost any situation I could imagine if the edit in question did not seem in any way detrimental to the project. I do agree that we are here to build an encyclopedia and that should be our first priority. In fact, if another editor brought such an edit to my attention — one possibly in violation of an ArbCom sanction but not in itself harmful to Wikipedia — my response would probably be, 'you can do what you want, but I'm not reporting that.' Now, I suspect you won't like this part, but if I were an administrator, and such an edit were brought to my attention, I might feel obligated to enforce the ArbCom ruling. (I'm not an andministrator, and don't want to be; but if I were.) I should say that if the ruling potentially having been violated was one prohibiting one editor for interacting with another editor, that might be something I would consider potentially detrimental to the project. (Not coincidentally, such sanctions seem likely to be bullying-related. ) Does that answer your question better?

Oh, and I have come to a decision about which would take priority, your does-this-harm-the-project check and warn-before-blocking proposal, or a zero-tolerance policy against bullying. You'll be pleased to know your proposal won out. Off-Wiki friends reminded me that there have been numerous cases of zero-tolerance policies being used against victims of bullying, and thereby that careful and considered enforcement is almost always preferable to a one-size-fits-all approach. Thank you for posing these questions, and for poking me until I answer them satisfactorily; I'm enjoying the mental workout! —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 22:59, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

My simple logic tells me that if something is not harmful, but can be considered a violation of a restriction, something is wrong with the restriction. I could give you a few examples, instead I pass something - directly from the talk of Jimbo Wales - which you may not like: that advice about running for arbcom: Don't., concluding: "The sooner we get rid of the committee the better and if we don't do it within the next couple of years, we risk bringing the entire project into disrepute." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:16, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

More interesting reading! You're taking almost as much of my editing time as all this WikiDrama with the Kevin Healey (autism activist) article (you're already aware of it and have declined to comment, so I don't think my mentioning it counts as canvassing). I can see some of Worm That Turned's points, but ArbCom isn't going to be abolished immediately. It makes no sense to let worse candidates be the ones to sit on the committee than are available just because you think no ArbCom at all would be the best outcome; all that would mean is more grief for people who have to deal with ArbCom in the meantime. It's possible to work within the existing structure, and work to dismantle that structure, at the same time. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 17:37, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Grieving that the arbitrator I trusted most also left. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:16, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Rather late, but I understand you have been unwell of late my dear. May you recover quickly and fully, G-d bless you Gerda. Simon, or the unwholesome character known as Irondome (talk) 02:46, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Unwholesome is more apt to describe processes I observe than yourself ;)

Simple logic

Can we please get back to: "If an edit is not harmful, but can be considered a violation of a restriction, something is wrong with the restriction, or the one who sees it that way? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:34, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Sure, Gerda. I can think of one class of restrictions where an edit might not appear to a third party unaware of the restriction to be harmful, but which would in fact be harmful, and that is when an editor has been prohibited from interacting with another editor but does so anyway.

As an example, say Editor B is under an interaction ban regarding Editor V. (Or even that they're both forbidden from interacting with each other.) They both want to comment on an AfD debate. Editor V posts their comment. Editor B's comment is something like "I disagree with Editor V, the sources are clearly unreliable" instead of simply "The sources are clearly unreliable." Interaction bans are generally only imposed when there has been rancor between the two (or more) editors, so a comment like that — which to an outside observer with no knowledge of the ban could look innocuous — could appear to Editor V to be a taunt, and potentially lead to the original conflict that led to the ban flaring up again... which would be harmful to the project.

Since I can think of that one example, I'm inclined to think there are other such situations where speech that on its surface seems harmless may not be so when examined more closely and in its proper context. So I would say that there is not necessarily anything wrong with the restriction. Whether restrictions are appropriate ultimately has to be handled on a case-by-case basis, though guidelines for adjudicating them exist and may need to be revised. I do understand where you're coming from and think that some of the editing restrictions that have been imposed by ArbCom over the years have not been appropriate. The infobox case does, in fact, seem to be one such example. —GrammarFascist _contribs^talk 19:46, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

I can see - to stay with the analogy - that if editors A and B are under an interaction ban, someone would block A in the name of AE for writing "Happy birthday" to editor B, and be congratulated for strictly enforcing teh rulez. I'd hope I am wrong but that's what I see. I worked on Kafka. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:06, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

AfD ?

What AfD are you referencing here: [21]? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:03, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

AfD? Just a discussion, mentioned in the question and found by the candidate, "the one", --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:08, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Care to link to it, Gerda? I was curious because I'm one of those RfA participants who believe that a candidate's AfD record and demonstrated understanding of our notability and other suitability guidelines are completely legitimate topics of discussion. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 20:04, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

No AfD. But consensus finding is consensus finding. Talk:Joseph (opera)#Restore infobox? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:43, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Article request: Theater Augsburg

Hi Gerda. I know you have a lot going on right now. When you get a chance, we could really use an article on Theater Augsburg. A translation of de:Theater Augsburg would be much appreciated. Best.4meter4 (talk) 16:40, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Singing today was great! Augsburg will need patience, four cantatas waiting, and Asia month ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm patient. And no rush. ;)4meter4 (talk) 23:11, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Precious again

Thanks, Gerda. Much appreciated. Maias (talk) 23:58, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Baritone/Bass

Hi Gerda. Wondering if you could tell me if you know what the average low is for a male vocalist. I can hit E flat 2, but I think with some vocal training I could potentially hit the low C. E seems to be into bass vocal range which seems pretty deep. I'd thought most bass vocalists regularly go as low as A1 but the article seems to imply otherwise?♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:57, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Average I don't know. I know that Bach wants the low C from the soloist in BWV 172 - but rarely "gets it", as many basses don't have it. E flat 2 is required for some choral music, but I wouldn't know anything below in literature. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

That surprises me, I assumed the bass vocal range was probably on average as low as A1, most certainly I thought C2 was comfortable for most bass vocalists. My range is E flat2 - B flat 4 without shreaking/falsetto. I can hit G5 but it's bordering on a mouse shreak and not sung properly. ;-) This is all without vocal training, I'm sure I could potentially do better. I just listened to an Andrea Bocelli range and I realized I could sing the A4 in full voice but not the D5 end of here and that I was going into a different voice! I think Baritone is the most me.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:57, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Can anyone shed any light on what is meant by the IP editor's comment "your range is a specific series of notes, irrespective of your voice classification" in the thread titled "Vocal range" at Talk:Karen Carpenter? I confess I don't understand it. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 19:02, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

You're not the only one!♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:11, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Trying: voice type is defined more by the colour of your voice, but has to do with range. Let's look at a D which all voice types share, but while for sopranos it's about their bottom, for untrained basses it maybe too high to reach, tenors, altos, mezzos, can all sing it, but depending on voice type, the same note sounds differently. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:24, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

I think it might simply mean that individual singers' vocal ranges don't necessarily fit nicely into the ranges associated with the various voices - bass, baritone, tenor, alto, soprano, etc. That Carpenter might have been a soprano or an alto, but her range was independent of this. - Ryk72 ^'c.s.n.s.' 22:01, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

noping

Hi Gerda, Hope all's well. Hey, while I am, of course, honored... when you mention me in your ArbCom question, could you use {{noping|Floquenbeam}} instead of [[User:Floquenbeam|Floquenbeam]]? When I logged on today, I got 9 notifications you mentioned me, and I assume there will be more to come. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:40, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I will play on that way, preferring the elegant curly brackets anyway. Come to our concert, the image shows my perspective at the very open dress rehearsal as part of a festival ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

I was in Wiesbaden as part of a church group more than 35 years ago, but we were mostly hanging out at Lutheran churches, not Catholic ones, so I doubt we visited St. Bonifatius. Good luck this Sunday. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:44, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Why is it that arbs whose sayings I think are models don't stay? You, 28bytes and Yunshui noping? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:53, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Rhetorical question? I imagine because those you think of as models are slightly less crazy than average? --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:44, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps. Anyway, thanks for returning! Aus tiefer Not schrei ich is a good topic for today (Luther's birthday), but otherwise I prefer not to. My scream. Did you know that I started an article on a piece mentioned in my first DYK ever, for Giano's birthday? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:29, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Gott der Herr ist Sonn und Schild, BWV 79

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DYK for Trudeliese Schmidt

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Of interest to you

Women in Red#Music editathon. Montanabw^(talk) 02:17, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Interest yes, but little time, and I stopped planning ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:53, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Precious

Hello Gerda Arendt,
thanks for reminding me and thanks for the award, I in fact appreciate it a lot, but was too busy then to react. So I do it now. Best wishes Ulf Heinsohn (talk) 10:47, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

For your own protection

For your own protection and prevent panic on Wikipedia, I must ask you not to post on my page again. The Arbcom feel I am a danger to womankind, therefore I must be saved from temptation and social discourse with them. If you choose to post as a male or asexual sock (as do many people) that will be permitted as the Arbcom can't possibly know who you are. Giano (talk) 07:56, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

This user believes ...

... that writing articles about women is a good way to close the gender gap.

Sweet, Giano, so I post here, just keep watching, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:01, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

ps: You have always been kind to this woman, thank you. The article for you is growing, btw, more to come, big orchestra! Salute! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:04, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Hmmm, an original approach :) GoodDay (talk) 08:43, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

... but not new. Giano, the piece for you has been described as virile and rousing, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:02, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

We will tell the world, DYK, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:52, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Androgynous anon here, noting that whilst talkstalkin an arbcom candidate's page, there was mention that the top-ranked female DJ has been deleted. Perhaps folks mentioned here might wish to sally forth into the world of InPopCulture articles, and resurrect Miss K8 ( https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/delete&page=Miss_K8 ) from improper wiki-oblivion? Some sources seem to exist,[22] enough for a start-class article if not for FA. We have articles on the 90-some other folks from the same DJ-ranking-list, strangely enough. Best, 75.108.94.227 (talk) 16:44, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Mail

Hello, Gerda Arendt. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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Buster Seven Talk 19:49, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

I got it and replied but delivery failed. In short: Thank you for thinking of me and a great offer! I think to give them to project opera - via Voceditenore - might be a better idea. Would you try that, please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:05, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Gerda. I'll contact Voce. Buster Seven Talk 23:01, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Salve Regina (Latry)

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for box help, Alakzi

Did you know ...

... that a church's 1510 spiral of justice declares: "Justice suffered in great need. Truth is slain dead. Faith has lost the battle"?

How would the width be variable? I follows of the image is larger but not if the image is smaller. - You may have seen that I dropped the automatic signature in Precious because it produced strange tildes in older usage of the template. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:15, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

ps: when you say here that something makes you sick the regular advice is to take a break. It would be so much nicer if the sickening something would break. Dreams. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:23, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

If I'm understanding you correctly, you could use width: auto; inside |bodystyle=. Alakzi (talk) 23:51, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Wish you could listen to our concert today! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:30, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

It was good, music composed in Paris as a prayer for the dead. - Looking at the QAIbox: I would like something small - like the kitten there, using only the part of the Sanddunes Sunrise image that Alarbus used - see my user page with a scream today, follow link on Reformation, but this for the process - and wording "QAI" with a link to the project. The image part is what I don't know to handle. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:26, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

If I keep doing this, I don't know how long it might be before I get brought to court for resembling a certain "Jack" - again. :-) Do you wanna clip the image? You're probably looking for {{CSS image crop}}. Alakzi (talk) 22:01, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

ps: looking at the conversations we enjoyed back then makes me quite melancholic, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:33, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Looking at the conversations we enjoyed ... - when you say here that something makes you sick the regular advice is to take a break. It would be so much nicer if the sickening something would break. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:40, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

ps: I fought a battle with the template CSS image crop,which first produced nothing, but finally something I hope you would have enjoyed. Note to self: Verbannet die Klage - ban complaining. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:26, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

grammarz chitchat

Main: If you simply want to know how to vote go by User:Bishzilla/Vote ACE 2015.

Hi again Gerda, I wanted to bring this to your attention --

• Being fair and having visions, that's what I want to see in a candidate.

Which is from what you wrote on User:Kudpung's usertalk. It may have been a typo to say having-visions[23] instead of having-vision, but actually there is a pretty long tradition that leadership-candidates in traditional culture must have visions, as well as have vision. See vision/goal/foresight (and compare visionary) for the usual "have vision" meaning, and see vision quest for the esoteric "having visions" pre-requisite to adulthood and leadership. Best, 75.108.94.227 (talk) 16:52, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

p.s. Although I have difficulty seeing (heh!) how we could implement this requirement on-wiki, it would be interesting to have all the arb-candidates undergo food-deprivation and sleep-deprivation for around a week, and then have the arbcom-voters analyze the various hallucinations of the respective candidates, to see how committed they were to the core of the JimboVision.  ;-)     I would also probably bangSupport a mandatory 7-day-fasting requirement prior to any editor initiating an arbcom case, that would tend to cut down on the hasty nature of the process, eh? 75.108.94.227 (talk) 16:52, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

I guess the normal candidate has automatic sleep deprivation when writing a statement ;) - I mean visions like ideas. Did you look at my questions in the previous years? Always examples leading to more general thoughts. Last year: a user helps a newbie formatting, three noticeboards are busy for weeks to finally attest that he didn't violate his restrictions. What a waste of our time! This year: a user says that he creates featured content, with women ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:04, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

• I think we need to be clear on this. Sometimes natural leaders evolve out of the Wikipedia community. They are the people who successfully lead the community into battle with RfCs for improvemnts to policies and procedures. Arbcom is not a club of leaders - its just the county court house with its judges and clerks. It doesn't even have a District Attorney or a Crown Prosecution Service. Those functions are as often as not provided by the peanut gallery. Having visions or being a visionary is absolutely not a prerequisite for adminship or a seat on Arbcom. If you go to any Wikimania you'll see who the leaders are. They somehow get scholarships to attend the conference and they glide along the carpeted corridors with many minor editors clutching at their skirts and coat tails. I'm not a leader and I don't clutch. I've just got a big mouth that sometimes talks sense and sometimes puts people in their place. But I also have a big heart that rapidly warms to people who are nice to each other. And we need to put these battles of the genders behind us - Wikipedia is not the place for it.Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:33, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Clear, thank you. I didn't use the word leader, on purpose. I have heard a leader using the term "toxic personalities", - no leadership I respect. I see arbcom from my perspective, of a victim (find better word), have seen other users subjected to procedures without kindness, heart and sense, and welcome ideas to change. I like those of Opabinia regalis best so far. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:27, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

This is not an infobox. Just a thumbnail-image. No need to panic, anybody.

Gerda, you are not a victim of arbcom (hence why you struck the word), because that would imply it was out to get you. As noted by Kudpung, arbcom is just the county courthouse, and it generally does NOT have any ill intent towards the people who get caught in the machinery, and suffer ill effects. The problem is not the people running the machinery, really, the problem is the machinery itself, which chews up already-unhappy editors involved in an intractable dispute, and then spits out still-unhappy and now-bitter-and-damaged editors on the other end. Like a county courthouse where the bureaucracy takes on a life of its own, arbcom has become a reflection of some of the saddest parts of wikipedia.

  In order to solve the fundamental problem, it is necessary to seek big-hearted arbitrators, yes, and those who do not seek mana from the WMF and accolades from lesser followers, super-big yes. But what Gerda is seeking is those things, plus one more thing: a set of ideas for how to improve the humanity of arbcom proceedings, and of AE work. Not even that, really: even if the candidates don't yet know how to solve the problem of the arbcom machinery chewing wikipedians up, then spitting them out worse off, Gerda wants arbcom candidates who can at least *envision* such a thing. Hence her question about 'visions' ... she wants arbcom candidates who can, who are capable of, envisioning a time when arbcom is not such a hostile place for all concerned.

  Candidates who say, rules are rules, bans are bans, arbcom must be obeyed... those candidates are Tough On Wiki-Crime, and will be fully satisfied with the current state of arbcom (or maybe even seek to expand the machinery), because they see arbcom outcomes in terms the 'perpetrators' involved in arbcom 'cases' getting the 'punishment' they richly deserve. Gerda is an optimist, and hopes that one day arbcom will be a place where people do not fear to tread, where there are no 'judges' and there are no 'perps' and there is no dichotomy nor senselessness in the phrase "the arbitrators worked with the wikipedians who requested the mediation in order to come to an amicable solution which permanently resolve the issue for all concerned". Most arbcom cases instead involve punishing the various perpetrators ... and simply do not fit that wikipedians/mediation/solution phrase, even loosely.

  Plus, they have an annoying tendency to keep cropping back up, with slight variations... so much so that arbcom cases are now being numbered like trilogies... which is a big clue that the machinery we have is NOT optimized for permanently resolving issues in a way that all concerned find amicable. Sometimes bans *are* the answer, and any Strong Leader can wield the banhammer, but more often, humanity is the more permanent answer, which requires Calm Keen-ness. I think Gerda is looking for arb-candidates with keen eyesight, so keen they can see into the future, and dimly perceive a kinder gentler arbcom-machinery. p.s. Gerda, sorry about putting words in your mouth again.  ;-)     75.108.94.227 (talk) 15:06, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Granted, you didn't even put words in my mouth, - you spoke in the third person: interesting distance. (Reminded me of a line in literature: "Darling, you spoke only in the past tense.") Thanks for thoughts. I crossed out "victim" because I knew it was not the right word but didn't have a better one. I dream of an arbcom which doesn't let you think of machinery. In "my case", sorry to say that, the arbs didn't even look at the complaint but sanctioned those who complained, easy easy, pleasing those (afew more) who claimed "we always did it this way". - I followed the advice above and created a userbox for the members of the cabal of the outcasts to whom that happens a lot. You are welcome to join if you are not afraid to dream of amnesty ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:45, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, no time for the WP:QAI cabal of outcasts, I'm already trying to get into WP:THEGOLDENAGE which is *another* cabal. Maybe one cabal will engage in a turf-war with the other one?  :-)     Personally though I like the outkast cabal, myself. 75.108.94.227 (talk) 16:52, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

The cabal of the outcasts is in battle for peace and kindness ;) - no chance for a turf-war, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:06, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Relative?

Hannah Arendt. Hafspajen (talk) 15:32, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

no, unfortunately, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

ACE

In looking at your 2015 guide (as well as researching your 2014 one), I thought it may be helpful to mention that in order for it to appear here - you need to add the category to your page. If you're interested, you can add the following to the bottom of your guide:

• [[Category:Wikipedia Arbitration Committee Elections 2015 voter guides]]

If you're having problems, and want to add it - let me know and I will do so. If you don't want yours in with the others, simply ignore this message. — Ched :  ?  00:49, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for still being with me, Ched! I never wrote a guide, the cat doesn't fit. People read it anyway, see talk. If they vote by Bishzilla or WTT, that's fine. Miss Alakzi. Wake up! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Officium Hebdomanae Sanctae

Little birdie tells me you were going to look into this. The title is incorrect, of course--should be "Officium Hebdomadæ Sanctæ", which is a redirect to Holy Week. At first glance the topic seems notable enough, as notable as Baby Got Back or Heart of Glass. Drmies (talk) 03:11, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for still being with me, Drmies! Little birdie was who watched the page? Consider to call the article Tenebrae (Vittoria), as we say St Matthew Passion, not the original title. Will sing Vittoria's O magnum mysterium for Christmas. - Did you do your operatic homework? - Miss Alakzi. Wake up! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Bruckner's chamber music

Hi Gerda,

For your info: I just have created an additional overview page Chamber Music (Bruckner). When I will find some time for it, I will review the linked pages, we were originally created by other users, including our "beste" Nikki...

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:40, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! What do you think about table vs. list here? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:03, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

I think a table is more informative than a listing. It is the reason why we moved List of compositions by Anton Bruckner, which was originally a listing, to a table. The same reason why I put the "versions and editions of Bruckner's symphonies" in a table. See: Synopsis. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:48, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom Spam

Notifications just forced me to log on again. So I thought to check up on how you are doing as I always remember your kindness and dedication to music articles. Agathoclea (talk) 15:08, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much for remembering kindness, not battle ;) - prayers for my health were archived, and I keep singing, see link under Requiem on top, of sad relevance, written for Paris. With substantial help from am missed friend, I developed a versatile box, look for women, or justice ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:59, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Cello Concerto (Waterhouse)

Hello! Your submission of Cello Concerto (Waterhouse) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 21:43, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

And here I thought I was going to do something nice for Gerda, but I'm just being obstructionist instead! Is there a good newspaper notification of this upcoming concert? 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 21:43, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Ryo Terakado

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Translation advice

Hello Gerda. A word of advice, please. In the list of characters for Handel's lost opera Nero, Anicetus is describes as "Des Kaysers Mignon oder Liebling", which with my very limited knowledge of German I translate as "the Emperor's little favourite". Does this seem reasonable? It may be one of those phrases that is hard to translate literally, but I'd be glad of your opinion. Brianboulton (talk) 11:36, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

"Mignon" is French and literally means "little one", "Liebling" is literally darling, "oder" is "or", as used in many opera titles to give an alternative. In this case, explaining the French. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:49, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Brianboulton (talk) 19:06, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Jauchzet Gott in allen Landen, BWV 51

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Sentence to be removed?

Hi Gerda,

I am again (!) involved in a sterile, endless discussion with our "beste Nikki". See: Sentence to be removed?. I do not want that you actively participate in the discussion. I only wish to take advantage of your wise advice.

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:36, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Will look. You might have an opinion on the table, shown on the talk of BWV 38, - compare to the one in the cantata mentioned above, - so proud Thanksgiving is celebrated with Bach's trumpeter pictured!

Thanks for answering that above. I looked, but will try not to add there. So many articles are not yet written! I started one about a dream today, - feel free to add and perhaps find a better image than the composer's. Legend has it that the music was found on his Nachttisch, when he died. Will try to find a source for what we were told in rehearsal. Same offer - add, image - for the walk over the mountains. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Hänsel und Gretel

Staatsoper Wien 2015

Dear gerda, can you please be so kind and help with the boxes. Regards (and please visit Vienna, I'd love to invite you to music and delicious food) --Meister und Margarita (talk) 22:55, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

navbox made and added to three operas, and thanks for the invitation! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:12, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

House / Haus - a small favour?

Hi Gerda Arendt, I was hoping to beg a, hopefully, small favour. I have been working on a draft article, at User:Ryk72/Skaill_House, based on the de.Wiki article[24]. I think I have been able to get most of the translation right, but would appreciate you having a look over it if you have time. I'd also appreciate advice on whether you think it is ready for mainspace, and on any Infoboxes we might use for historic buildings. Many thanks in advance. - Ryk72 ^'c.s.n.s.' 08:05, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Will look later today or tomorrow. - I go for Schloss (vs. Castle which would be Burg) all the time. - First I have the pleasure to sing the two pieces linked under go dream (on top). Hope, dreams and movement to all! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:12, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Looked, nice! I added two cats, please activate them (by removing the leading colon) when you move. I think it's ready. Use {{infobox building}} and compare examples, such as Little Moreton Hall (but not collapsed, please). I can help with that once you started, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:27, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi Gerda, Many thanks. I am deeply indebted to our German colleagues, upon whose work the article is based. Thanks for your advice, your work on the cats & phrasing; appreciate your assistance. I will attempt to add the Infobox. - Ryk72 ^'c.s.n.s.' 20:26, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Chronicler of the Winds

Hello! Your submission of Chronicler of the Winds at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 15:18, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Re: St. Peter

Peter wasn't born a saint. But he also wasn't born named Peter. He was born named Simon and changed his name to Peter. Pope John Paul II wasn't born a pope, or named John Paul II. Pope John Paul II was born Karol Wojtyła but regardless he is known as Pope John Paul II. The same goes for Peter, he was canonized a saint and is referred to as St. Peter. NapoleonX (talk) 23:21, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Referred to as St. Peter by some Christians, yes. Other Christian denominations don't recognize sainthood, and Christians are only a part of the worldwide readers. - More comments on the article talk please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:26, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Chieftain's Salute

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, makes me smile because the piece was mentioned in my first DYK ever, also because I thought of Giano's wiki birthday when I wrote it, - is your page open to me again, Giano? Same question to Boing! said Zebedee? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:06, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Oh, nobody is barred from my talk page - but I'd prefer it to be used only for practical issues relating to my actual Wikipedia activities, and not for social chat, praise, drama, activism or general politicking. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:45, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Thinking of you

2 December 2014
DYK ... that Karl Jenkins conducted the premiere of his Te Deum, "a joyous, theatrical piece", in the European Capital of Culture of 2008, Liverpool?

I guess that I am full of joy about your return is social chat, praise and activism, so I will keep it to here, as the dedication of an article, with a hook written in defiance, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:18, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

FAC

Dear Gerda, it has been quite awhile since we spoke for the last time. I hope you're doing well. I recently nominated Juan Manuel de Rosas for FAC, but the article is often ignored because of its obscure topic. If you have time and interest, could you review it? I'd be truly grateful. The link to the Featured Article Candidacy page is here. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 13:14, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Well, I archived my health issues. - I have interest but no extra time for a week or so. I listed it at WP:QAIPOST where you (and others not afraid of the project) can post review requests and news about article improvement, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:52, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Joseph Ryelandt's Notices sur mes œuvres

Dear Ms. Arendt,

I do not know if you follow the article on Joseph Ryelandt, to which you have contributed. If you read French, you'll be interested to know that an edition of his typescript Notices sur mes œuvres has just been published. The article has the complete reference. Polla ta deina (talk) 18:20, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:42, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Sanction expired

Pursuant to an arbitration motion enacted 31 May 2015, reading, in part, "If after six months Gerda Arendt has not been blocked under this motion, remedy 3.2 as well as this motion shall automatically lapse", I have removed your sanctions from the list of editing restrictions. Thanks. For the Committee, L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 23:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm happy you're no longer under this sanction. NE Ent 00:31, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Advent: go dream --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:18, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

So happy this is over. It was not fair for you to have been treated this way in my opinion, and was a bad ruling at Arb Com.4meter4 (talk) 04:31, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Did you know ...

... that a church's 1510 spiral of justice declares: "Justice suffered in great need. Truth is slain dead. Faith has lost the battle"?

Thank you, 4meter4, also for what you do for opera and DYK! - Fair? Interesting concept ;) - It was an easy ruling: solve a general problem by restricting a few key people. On top of being not fair, it doesn't work. Vote! None of the candidates noticed the problem in my first question, but some look more promising than others, - compare answers and background, and decide what fits you. And then go dream ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:08, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme, BWV 140

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme, BWV 140 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Yash! -- Yash! (talk) 01:20, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

You're invited! Women in Red World Virtual Edit-a-thon on Women in Religion

You are invited! Join us remotely! World Virtual Edit-a-thon on Women in Religion

Dates: 5 to 15 December 2015 Location: Worldwide/virtual/online event Host: Women in Red (WiR): Did you know that only 15% of the biographies on Wikipedia are about women? WiR focuses on "content gender gap". If you'd like to help contribute articles on women and women's works, we warmly welcome you! Event details: This is a virtual edit-a-thon hosted by WiR. It will allow all those keen to improve Wikipedia's coverage of women in religion to participate. All levels of Wikipedia editing experience are welcome. RSVP and learn more: →here← --Rosiestep (talk) 05:29, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Good idea, writing articles on women, see? I am busy with expanding our knowledge on the compositions of Jean Sibelius, Bach's cantatas, translate Bonshō (dedicated to sadly missed Yunshui) and cover today's birthday more (Salve Regina), but will see what I can do. Inner voices say wake up! Vote! We need arbcom for readers! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:47, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Chronicler of the Winds

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:01, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Nice work, Gerda. Ceoil (talk) 16:27, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Leap

A song for you. I don't know if it's your kind of thing, and I know it's sort of "pop" opera, but I hoped you might like. Kafka Liz (talk) 13:12, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

That's my thing! From my favourite opera, the second one I saw in my life ;) - The first was Lucia di Lammermoor, with Yvonne Cianella in the title role, - I remember crying ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:20, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Glad I got it right! I confess I've only been to one opera, and the original libretto had been replaced with a horrifying English translation. Kafka Liz (talk) 13:26, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

How do you like the story above? The author read from it to us (in German, a first) in Advent 2009,at Marktkirche, - once I am on memory lane, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:52, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Seems like a good enough one. Will give a listen. Is there a particular version you recommend? Kafka Liz (talk) 15:06, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

No, listening to his introduction made me read it myself, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Taking the bull by the horns

Dear Gerda,

FYI: Because the two articles Rondo in C minor (Bruckner) and Intermezzo in D minor (Bruckner) are, since their beginning, bogged down in repeated, endless discussions about soundness of its content, discography, infobox, referencing, etc. I have decided to take the bull by the horns. See Talk:Rondo in C minor (Bruckner)#An article, which started on a shaky base and Talk:Intermezzo in D minor (Bruckner)#An article, which started on a shaky base.

Thank you for your repeated, appreciated help, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:20, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

What I would do is: have en excerpt of the two separate articles within the quartet (quintet), leave the others as they are and try to forget them, - but link, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:24, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your appreciated advice. I have put a {{Further information}} to the alternative Rondo and Intermezzo. I will later expand the main articles on the Quartet and the Quintet. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 14:20, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Sibelius compositions

Sincere thanks, Gerda, for all the new articles you have written over the past few days on works by Sibelius. I've had a quick look at them all and although many are pretty short, each provides a good overview of the piece in question. Thanks too for your additions to many of the existing articles on his works. I'm suffering from over-immersion in Sibelius at the moment but may return to some of them later. At least we now have a sold framework for those interested in looking more deeply into the composer and his works on 8 December and thereafter. Well done!--Ipigott (talk) 16:20, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, appreciated. The short articles at least lead to a source to study further ;) - I hope to have time tomorrow to go over the older articles, add one source and look for links. Congratulations for getting his biography to GA! Quite a feat! Can you think of a DYK hook? I know already one for New Year's Day: his worldwide broadcast ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:20, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Looks as if the biography will be included with Voces intimae. In any case, most people will probably click into it from the TFA.--Ipigott (talk) 07:52, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

The inner voices were was moved to the next day, - which would leave room on the day for a political statement if we find support. First we need a reviewer! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:41, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

The storm music was moved to more or less now, please watch, need to leave home for a few hours, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

The Kitzler Study Book

Hi Gerda,

Nikki has sometimes good suggestions... She suggested to create a page on The Kitzler Study Book. I have done it today. If you can find some time for doing it, could you please have a look on the translation of the quote from Harten's book, about the interest of this workbook.

With my renewed thanks, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 18:51, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

later yes, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Please: one thank-you-click per day is fine. - I haven't even looked at the article yet, but will now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:45, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

I am happy to have a fine collaboration after the frustrating "discussions" of the previous days. --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 07:53, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

NB: I just have found an error in Organ works (Bruckner): The final score of the Fuge in D minor, WAB 125, composed on 7 November 1861 for an examination (end of Sechter's tuition), is found in the Sechter-Studienbuch (not the Kitzler-Studienbuch) – Bruckner's workbook during his tuition by Simon Sechter, which is stored in the library of the Diocese of Münster. My mistake! Nobody is infallible... --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 11:56, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Herewith the compositions found in the Kitzler-Studienbuch (retrieved in Harten and van Zwol):

• O habt die Thräne gern, a 16 bar lied in A minor (1st version): Kitzler-Studienbuch, pp. 18–19
• Nachglück, a 16 bar lied in C major: Kitzler-Studienbuch, p. 19
• Herzeleid, a 16 bar lied in E minor: Kitzler-Studienbuch, p. 20
• Nachglück (II), a 16 bar lied in F major: Kitzler-Studienbuch, p. 21
• Von der schlummernden Mutter, a 20 bar lied in F major: Kitzler-Studienbuch, p. 22
• Des Baches Frühlingsfeier, a 22 bar lied in D minor: Kitzler-Studienbuch, p. 23
• Wie neid ich Dich, du stolzer Wald, a 24 bar lied in E-flat major: Kitzler-Studienbuch, p. 24
• Walzer in E-flat major, p. 25
• Walzer in C major, p. 26
• Polka in C major, p. 27
• Mazurca in A minor, p. 29
• Menuett in C major, p. 30
• Menuett and Trio in G major, p. 35
• Marsch in D minor, p. 37
• O habt die Thräne gern, a 32 bar lied in A minor (2nd version): Kitzler-Studienbuch, p. 42
• Last des Herzens, a 32-bar lied in E-flat major: Kitzler-Studienbuch, p. 43
• Es regnet, a 24 bar sketch for a lied in E minor: Kitzler-Studienbuch, pp. 46–47
• Wunsch, a 32 bar sketch for a lied: Kitzler-Studienbuch, pp. 47–48
• Andante für Klavier in E-flat major, p. 49
• Andante für Klavier D minor, pp. 50–51
• Scherzo for string quartet, Kitzler-Studienbuch, pp. 70–74.
• Etüde in G major, pp. 77–78
• Chromatische Etüde in F major, pp. 79–80
• Variationen über ein Thema in G major, pp. 87–90
• Sonatensatz, WAB deest, pp. 157–164
• String Quartet, Kitzler-Studienbuch, pp. 165–196
• Rondo in C minor, Kitzler-Studienbuch, pp. 197–206
• Der Trompeter an der Katzbach, a 90 bar lied in F minor on a text by Julius Mosen: Kitzler-Studienbuch, pp. 207–213
• Four Fantasien in D minor, C minor, C minor and D minor, pp. 213–218
• March in D minor, pp. 251–265
• Three Orchestral Pieces, pp. 266–271; 272–277; 278–286
• Overture in G minor (sketch), pp. 287–301
• Symphony in F minor (sketch), pp. 303–326

I have included this list in the page Kitzler Study Book. OK four you? --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 21:27, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Nice list, and useful. It's a bit a mix of German and English, "Andante für Klavier" vs. March in D minor. Perhaps make a table with one column German, one English, have all German, some translated? I am no friend of the non-breaking space, you could also use {{nowrap}}. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your review! I have translated the titles, except that of the lieder, and added "for piano" or "for string quartet" when it is applicable. I have also added that the Quartet and it additional Rondo, and the Sonatensatz were transcribed for the Study Book and by whom (with refs), and added precision about the origin of the issue of the Four Orchestral Pieces (with ref). --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 10:22, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Snöfrid (Sibelius)

Allen3 ^talk 12:52, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Cassazione (Sibelius)

Allen3 ^talk 12:56, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Jäger March translation help?

Hiya,

What exactly would you like me to translate in the Jäger March article? :)

I wanted you to clarify the political context, which might be "undue" in the composer's article, but there's all the room to expand in the composition. Please look at the two compositions above also, - I might make simple mistakeslike taking Swedish for Finnish. It came as a complete surprise to start the celebrations this early, - there are still "citation required" in some of his works which I had hoped to fix today, - all watchers welcome to help, look at

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:40, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Disclaimer: I'm writing this while at home suffering from a cold so if something sounds confusing, I blame the illness! :D Anyway, I checked Snöfrid and Cassazione if that's what you meant by "above" – the Finnish/Swedish seems correct to me, although I'm not an authority in Swedish ortography/grammar (I understand Swedish but it's not my first language). The only thing which seems a bit tricky is the translation for Oma Maa – translated word-for-word it is "Own Land/Country", without really stating who's country – it could mean own country in a more general sense like fatherland. My country would be minun maani if translated literally. Probably the best to stick to whatever is the most common English translation though, esp. since Own Country is probably grammatically incorrect in English.

I've started going through the rest of the works in that template, not sure when I will be finished but will keep you updated. A couple of things about the political context which I noticed and think should be tweaked:

• In "Symphony no. 8": "having earlier been under Swedish control for many centuries" – While this is not incorrect, I think it would be more accurate to state that "having earlier been a part of Sweden for many centuries". To me the current version implies that Sweden was an oppressive conqueror, when in reality the areas which now form the Swedish and Finnish states 'merged' in the medieval times; national identity simply did not exist at the time. Furthermore, many of the Eastern / Northern parts of Finland were never part of Sweden.

• The territory of Finland was conquered by Sweden in the Middle Ages, and thereafter settled by Swedes who took and maintained control of the territory's institutions, a situation with which the Finnish peasantry largely complied. So it wasn't a military occupation against the wishes of the native inhabitants, but neither was it a voluntary merger of two entities. The present wording, in my view, sums up the situation accurately, while the suggested rewording does not. Finland was never "part of Sweden", any more than, say, Wales has ever been part of England. Brianboulton (talk) 12:33, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

@Brianboulton: While I'm not entirely opposed to what you're saying, at least according to what I was taught, the conquest theory began with the Reformation (='crusades', "Christians saving the heathens") and was strengthened by the nationalists in the nineteenth century. The people who lived in Finland (or rather, the 'Finnish' elite) in the Middle Ages participated equally with the 'Swedish' elite(s) in the running of the kingdom and in key processes like electing the king until the early modern period. The whole "Swedish-speaking people being the elite"-thing began later. EDIT: "Finland was never "part of Sweden", any more than, say, Wales has ever been part of England." Can you clarify what you mean by this? Apart from a different language being predominant, I don't see how the parts which are now part of Finland were somehow seen as 'separate' and not just as the eastern half of Sweden? TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 13:22, 9 December 2015 (UTC)TrueHeartSusie3

• "The country remained divided between a culturally dominant Swedish-speaking minority, to which the Sibelius family belonged..." – 'culturally dominant' is certainly correct when it comes to elite culture, such as classical music and literature, but naturally the Finnish-speaking peasants also had their own culture(s) so I'm not sure I would use that term.

• By all means find an alternative wording that maintains the general sense of Swedish language elitism. Brianboulton (talk) 12:33, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

• "and a more nationalistically-minded Finnish-speaking, or "Fennoman" majority" – This is factually incorrect, as the Fennomans were specifically people who participated in a nationalistic political movement which sought to promote the Finnish language and (what was perceived to be) Finnish culture. In my understanding, the majority of Fennomans were from the middle class. The majority of Finnish-speaking people were uneducated, poor peasants who were more concerned about whether they had work, shelter or enough food (Finland experienced severe and widespread famine as late as the 1860s); so if and when they became politically active, their major concerns had most likely to do with social rather than cultural issues (naturally language could also become part of this, for example if Swedish speakers were seen as the ruling class). So 'Finnish-speaking' and 'Fennoman' are not interchangeable, as the latter was a political movement. Of course, the nationalists sought to portray the Finnish people as a unified nation proud of a shared culture and language, but this is historically inaccurate.

• If you wish, delete "or Fennoman". Brianboulton (talk) 12:33, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Ok, I'm going to have to delete 'nationalistically-minded' as well, is that ok? The Svecoman–Fennoman division definitely existed, but not in the sense of all Swedish-speakers being Svecoman and all Finnish-speakers Fennoman. Furthermore, not all Swedish-speaking Finns were members of the elite/middle class... I'm also confused by 'remained' since Fennomania was a 19th c. movement? TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 13:22, 9 December 2015 (UTC)TrueHeartSusie3

• The Civil War of 1917–1918 and Oma Maa: "The piece was written at a time when the Red Guards, supporting the Russian administration of Finland, were losing their influence." I think when you mention the events of 1917–1918, it would be good to always link to the Finnish Civil War so as to avoid confusion. I would also not state "supporting the Russian administration of Finland" because Finland was never part of the Soviet Union, and the Red Guard most definitely did not want to go back to the Czarist era. Furthermore and more importantly, the aims of the Red Guard cannot be reduced to simply supporting Lenin and the Russian revolution, they were not just a Finnish auxiliary of the bolsheviks. Yes, they were allied with them, but the White Guard was also allied with the Germans. The Finnish Red Guard first and foremost sought to overthrow those in power in Finland and those who fought in the Red Guard mostly participated because they wanted social change. Social problems were also slightly different in Finland; for example, Finland never had serfdom. In other words, please don't merge the Finnish Civil War with the Russian revolution (it was a linked but separate conflict), and be careful not to imply that this was a Finland vs. Russia issue as that's incorrect. Furthermore "losing their influence" is incorrect, they were losing the war i.e. losing their hold on the areas they had taken earlier in the war. Finland continued to be a very politically divided country in the following decades.

I feel like the confusion about this might be because up until the 1960s, the civil war was a taboo subject in Finnish historiography and society in general, at least when it came to the Red perspective. The conflict, as civil wars usually do, had longstanding effects in Finland and divided the Finnish people for decades. The easiest way to deduct whether the writer of a book is biased one way or another is to look at the terminology they use. For example, the winners of the civil war, the White Guard, and their supporters, referred to this war as "the War of Freedom" or "the Independence war" and sought to portray it as Finland vs. Russia. My hunch is that this perspective is rife in especially older Sibelius literature, and it was probably Sibelius' own view of the conflict. Those who are biased towards the Red Guard term it a "class war", which is also incorrect. In Finland, you still occasionally hear people use those terms depending on their political opinions/family history, but they are never used in historiography as they are simply incorrect and very biased. In reality, it was a civil war that was triggered by the power vacuum that resulted from the Russian revolution(s), but its deeper causes had to do with Finnish social problems. Both sides allied with foreign powers, but this doesn't mean that the Red Guard was Russian or the White Guard German.

The WP article on the Finnish Civil War has more info on this, and I think it could be a good idea to find a general Finnish history book written during the last two decades when it comes to writing about the historical background. I'll be happy to help and please ask any questions you might have, but unfortunately I think I'll be spending less time in WP in the future so cannot help you by doing research myself. Hope this has been helpful! :) TrueHeartSusie3 (talk) 11:19, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for true insight in some matters. I will take the "own" thing to the cantata, ping Brianboulton to look at the comment regarding the Eighth, because that is still linked from the Main page and gets high attention. I guess Ipigott is looking anyway ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:27, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

TrueHeartSusie3, Oma maa is for later (unless you want to go ahead now), but I expanded the ice-breaking a bit. Could you please check for the politics? Feel free to expand --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:16, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

I've left a couple of responses, above. The Eighth got almost 12,000 viewings on its TFA day, compared with a former daily average of 25 to 30. Brianboulton (talk) 12:33, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, collaboration at its best! - Sibelius received 20999 hits yesterday, although banned from DYK: there was interest in the world for what we do, - good to know. I started a gallery, more to come for a while, and then off to Reger for 2016. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:00, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

I see there is no more red in Jean's navbox! I've noticed you working on lots of Sibelius articles recently. Thank you for all that, finished in time for his birthday! --Mirokado (talk) 23:35, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for noticing ;) - it was a pleasure, and I learned a lot, had no idea that he "composed" the James Bond Theme! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:33, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Please advise

Hello Gerda, I need some help in elucidating one article's edit history and I don't have the time to check every individual edit. I remember once using a tool where i had to input the contested statement and it would show me who is responsible for that edit. I'd appreciate your help or referral to someone good at this kind of stuff. A thousand thanks. -Elias Z 14:26, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

I am sorry, nothing I would know, try WP:QAIPOST perhaps, - I search the old-fashioned way: look up the year and month, go for 500 edits per page, then search by keywords or user name, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:32, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Elie plus, I think you want WP:Wikiblame, which is found here. Bencherlite^Talk 15:35, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Gerda i did just that, the passage was written early on in the article's history. @Bencherlite: That's exactly it! thank you, this will make things much easier. -Elias Z 06:45, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Voces intimae (Sibelius)

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

• Hi Gerda, congrats on the many Sibelius DYK's. A nice touch leading up to his birthday (Brian's TFA was great as well). Cheers. --Floquenbeam (talk) 17:10, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing. Actually, it wasn't my idea to "lead up" and follow through the next day, thinking of Australia and California. I would have liked at least the bio on the birthday in Europe, but apparently there are rulez to prohibit a topic on DYK which appears anywhere else on the Main page, TFA, OTD, ITN. As if they didn't support each other, sigh. - I didn't argue yesterday, because of my festive mood, instead expanded Andante Festivo, to appear on New Year's Day ;) - He also wrote Christmas songs! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:22, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

A new lied of Anton Bruckner

Dear Gerda,

Der Mondabend (The moonlit evening), WAB deest, a lied in A major composed for Aloisia Bogner in c. 1850 on a text by Johann Gottfried Kumpf, has been retrieved in 2015 in the Landesmuseum of Upper Austria and issued in Oberösterreichische Schriften zur Volksmusik, Band 16, 2015.

The lied has in the meantime been recorded:

• Robert Holzer (bass), Thomas Kerbl (piano), Anton Bruckner - Lieder - Magnificat – CD: Gramola 99071, 2015, a reissue of CD: LIVA 046, 2011, with the in the meantime retrieved Mondabend. I have ordered the CD.

Hopefully the lieder of the Kitzler-Studienbuch will also been performed and recorded in a near future...

Best regards, Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:45, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Voces intimae (Sibelius)

Gerda, I haven't forgotten about looking up the Gramophone crit, but I haven't been to the BL recently. Please don't hesitate to remind me if you hear nothing in the next week or so, though the way things are going I wonder if I'll be at the BL this side of the New Year. Heigh ho! Tim riley talk 14:50, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

No rush, it was on the Main page today, the composer's birthday was yesterday, - thanks for thinking of me! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:55, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Gerda Arendt, Just wanted to say thanks for moving my UP/TP back :), I kinda liked the new name aswell , Anyway Thanks and Happy Editing, –Davey2010^Talk 16:59, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

If you like the new name enough you can ask for a rename ;) - just a move won't do. (I was honestly surprised to find that I may perform such a move, imagine the power ...) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:14, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

I know I think I may visit WP:CHUS tomorrow but I'm pretty sure the new name would be declined.... or maybe it wont , I was surprised it let you to be honest - For some reason I assumed it wouldn't let you :), –Davey2010^Talk 17:22, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Bereitet die Wege, bereitet die Bahn! BWV 132

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Bruckner's String Quartet and Quintet

Hi Gerda,

FYI: Today I have expanded the content of Bruckner's String Quartet and Quintet. I think that the mention in these articles concerning the alternative Rondo in C minor and Intermezzo in D minor would be somewhat more developed, but ...

Best regards, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 16:24, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Humor even without a U

I know it's not exactly Gorilla Warfare, but here is a little humour in return. Thank you for being an inspiration, Gerda. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:54, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy holidays

Our paths haven't crossed directly this year, but I read (and absorb) your commments on talk pages all the time. Thanks for all of the great lessons. Happy holidays! Julie JSFarman (talk) 01:41, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

For editathon

Hi, can you, Ipigott or Charles01 help proof read the translation in Hermine Speier?♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:26, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Pretty busy today. It's quite a long article. If no one else picks it up, I'll try to get to it tomorrow.--Ipigott (talk) 15:39, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

same for me --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:59, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Dr. B translated this fascinating file about the German woman who helped establish the photo-archives of the Vatican and organize the Vatican Museum's holdings. It was not sourced, so I said I would help. I have some webpages, but I also found book in German. As it's a book, I cannot plug it into a translator. If you have time or interest, gleaning info from the Zanker source would be helpful. I've only been able to work through about half of the file. Will do more tomorrow. Thank you for all of your help on the DYK reviews. SusunW (talk) 01:00, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

I will look, but don't know yet when. I have an overdue Sibelius composition expansion before, and my watchlist, church and life ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

I gave it a quick read and fixed (I hope) the only major problem I saw. Amazing quality! It needs European dates and you-know-what, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:20, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

I hope I have not upset your edits. I was editing the article when you and Dr. B came along and I lost all my edits. I tried to restore them and discovered it was an earlier version. So I have now been through some sections of the document three times! It's my own fault, I tend to edit in long chunks. I should update each time I change something. The article still needs proper referencing.--Ipigott (talk) 13:41, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for your loss. Please, if you encounter an edit conflict with me just changing "their" to "her", do your edit (in a different window!) and try to redo the little thing. - Sourcing is the usual problem with articles from de, - I face the same for Gerberga II (help welcome). Need to expand ice-breaking a bit more, help welcome ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:48, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

I can usually handle these things without too much trouble but I was rushing to get out. I thought I'd saved my edits but when I reinserted them I discovered I'd copied an old version. Don't worry - it's all cleared up now. I'll be more careful in future.--Ipigott (talk) 19:29, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Midori Suzuki (soprano)

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Übers Gebirg Maria geht

Gerda, I was able to add the new material (from Grove) tonight, and I hope you like what I've done.

I did remove some material that I couldn't confirm. Eccard's supposed studies in Venice are not mentioned at all in the Grove article, or indeed that he spent any time in Italy at all, though he did like the Italian style and was known to emulate it in certain compositions. I was therefore dubious about retaining it even though it was mentioned in the Lehmann source.

As best I can tell, the Lehmann source mentions three things that I don't believe are connected, though the article seemed to do so: the 1597 publication of the spiritual songs—I saw no evidence that Übers Gebirg Maria geht was part of these, and indeed Grove specifically states that these 1597 publications contain the simpler style of chorales, not the chorale motet genre that Übers Gebirg Maria geht is a part of. Second is the studies with Italian masters in Venice. Finally, how Eccard shows what Google translate calls "his flair for intimate sound effects" as in Übers Gebirg Maria geht, though this may be analogous to Grove's "reflect the intrinsic warmth" phrase. (Then again, it may not.) Ultimately, I thought it was best to not retain anything from that particular source since the Grove material seemed more useful, so I removed the Lehmann reference altogether. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:19, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, very helpful! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Best wishes for the holidays...

		Season's Greetings
		Wishing you a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Hafspajen (talk) 11:53, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, appreciated! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:09, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Du Friedefürst, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 116

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78.26's RFA Appreciation award

	The 78.26 RFA Appreciation award
	Thank you for the participation and support at my RFA. It is truly appreciated. I hope to be of further help around here, and if you see me doing something dumb, you know where to find me. Again, I thank you, who has always been so kind to me. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 23:52, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Übers Gebirg Maria geht

Allen3 ^talk 00:15, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme, BWV 140

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Women in Red/Religion

I wonder how many participants in ACE2 also contributed to Women in Religion Editathon?! (You, me, ...? ) PamD 08:25, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

I try to ignore arbcom, really. I have seen absurdity which to appeal is a waste of time. I finally did it but it had the taste of self-humiliation. I heard the advice from reasonable people whom I trust and respect to avoid the conflict areas, but there's "doing the right thing" also,even if it's not comfortable. When it comes to others, and when absurdity reaches the level of desysopping a capable and fair woman in the name of closing the gender gap, I can't be silent. Arbcom needs to look at itself and its system, not where to ban a few disturbing users, - hopes for next year. I have two more projects this year, laughter and peace (in German, for the German Main page, hopefully on New Year's day, - written in memory of Yunshui, the arb candidate I liked best in 2014). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:50, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Barnstar

	Barnstar of music
	For contributions about glorious music (such as Wachet auf). Whiteghost.ink (talk) 00:05, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, great image! - No fixed image size please, and I want it larger, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:39, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Article request: Hochschule für Musik und Darstellende Kunst Mannheim

Hi Gerda. I know you are busy, and still haven't got to my last request; but here is another one anyway: de:Hochschule für Musik und Darstellende Kunst Mannheim. Thanks.4meter4 (talk) 02:37, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Next year, please, as Theater Augsburg from above, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:31, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Cello Concerto (Waterhouse)

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

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u wot m8

kefka would destroy any mii fighters you could possibly imagine — Preceding unsigned comment added by What Seems To Be The Officer, Problem (talk • contribs) 17:05, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

How about "meh" fighters? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:09, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Christ lag in Todes Banden, BWV 4

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I am pleased! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:02, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Unser lieben Frauen Traum

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Thanks for your participation

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Thank you, I learned a lot, two nominations for DYK are still open. Where will red links for women in music go? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:49, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

Thank you. I place them in the box above for later - time of year, you can do that yourself ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Fröhliche Weihnachten, Gerda

May your days be merry and bright . . . . Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:16, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Just learned that one of my conductors died, an inspiration for the St Matthew Passion, Elias, Le Roi David, Mass in B minor, and much more. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:21, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Übers Gebirg Maria geht

Gerda, I was able to add the new material (from Grove) tonight, and I hope you like what I've done.

I did remove some material that I couldn't confirm. Eccard's supposed studies in Venice are not mentioned at all in the Grove article, or indeed that he spent any time in Italy at all, though he did like the Italian style and was known to emulate it in certain compositions. I was therefore dubious about retaining it even though it was mentioned in the Lehmann source.

As best I can tell, the Lehmann source mentions three things that I don't believe are connected, though the article seemed to do so: the 1597 publication of the spiritual songs—I saw no evidence that Übers Gebirg Maria geht was part of these, and indeed Grove specifically states that these 1597 publications contain the simpler style of chorales, not the chorale motet genre that Übers Gebirg Maria geht is a part of. Second is the studies with Italian masters in Venice. Finally, how Eccard shows what Google translate calls "his flair for intimate sound effects" as in Übers Gebirg Maria geht, though this may be analogous to Grove's "reflect the intrinsic warmth" phrase. (Then again, it may not.) Ultimately, I thought it was best to not retain anything from that particular source since the Grove material seemed more useful, so I removed the Lehmann reference altogether. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:19, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, very helpful! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:27, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Best wishes for the holidays...

		Season's Greetings
		Wishing you a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Hafspajen (talk) 11:53, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, appreciated! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:09, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Du Friedefürst, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 116

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Du Friedefürst, Herr Jesu Christ, BWV 116 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Mscuthbert -- Mscuthbert (talk) 17:20, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

78.26's RFA Appreciation award

	The 78.26 RFA Appreciation award
	Thank you for the participation and support at my RFA. It is truly appreciated. I hope to be of further help around here, and if you see me doing something dumb, you know where to find me. Again, I thank you, who has always been so kind to me. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 23:52, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Übers Gebirg Maria geht

Allen3 ^talk 00:15, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

It's that time of year....

Christmas tree worm, (Spirobranchus gigantic)
	Time To Spread Some Happy Holiday Cheer!!
	I decorated a special kind of Christmas tree in the spirit of the season. What's especially nice about the digitized version is that it doesn't need water, and it won't catch fire.
	Wishing you a joyous holiday season... ...and a prosperous New Year!! 🍸🎁 🎉
	Atsme📞📧 00:42, 14 December 2015 (UTC)	Pure pun-ishment. [25]

Happy holidays

Our paths haven't crossed directly this year, but I read (and absorb) your commments on talk pages all the time. Thanks for all of the great lessons. Happy holidays! Julie JSFarman (talk) 01:41, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

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To You and Yours!

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 04:25, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

It's that time of the year

		Seasonal Greetings and Good Wishes
		Seasonal greetings for 2015, and best wishes for 2016. Here's to another year's productive editing, with peace, goodwill and friendship to all! Brianboulton (talk) 17:38, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Fröhliche Weihnachten, Gerda

May your days be merry and bright . . . . Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:16, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

All the best and schöne Feiertage Gerda. Polentarion Talk 19:26, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

	Seasons Greetings
	Christmas! Christmas, everywhere, on every talk page, I do dispair Seasons being greeted and Wikibreaks told, but still time for a little more editing, for being WP:BOLD! So go on, go forth and enjoy beyond concern Your Wiki will be waiting for when you return. Buster Seven Talk 19:09, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

This card was designed by User:Samtar

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
A very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and all your loved ones, and a joyous and prosperous 2016. All the very best from your friends: Cliftonian, Mrs Cliftonian and the two little Cliftonians. —  Cliftonian (talk)  20:29, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Wikiclaus' cheer !

		Wikiclaus greetings
		Michael Q. Schmidt talkback is wishing you the happiest of Wikipedia Wikiclaus' good cheer. This message is intended to celebrate the holiday season, promote WikiCheer, and to hopefully make your day just a little bit better, for Wikiclaus encourages we all spread smiles, fellowship, and seasonal good cheer by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone with whom you had disagreements in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Share the good feelings and the happiest of holiday spirits from Wikiclaus !

Seasons

	Nollaig Shona Duit
	Hope you have a good 'un Gerda Ceoil (talk) 17:39, 20 December 2015 (UTC)]]

Season's Greetings!

Hello Gerda Arendt: Enjoy the holiday season and upcoming winter solstice, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 19:03, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

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Nadolig Llawen

Martinevans123^{Santas Grotto} ... sends you warmest wishes for a:

"Nadolig Llawen a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda"

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May the true spirit of Christmas bless you with warmth and peace! ... And "Mele Kalikimaka" (Hawaiian Merry Christmas)!!

(Season's Greetings)

Viggo Johansen: Happy Christmas (1891)

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Merry Christmas & Happy New Year

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Frohe Weinachten und

alles gute zur neuen Jahr!

Wesołych Świąt i

Szczęśliwego nowego roku!

Linksmų Kalėdų ir

laimingų Naujųjų Metų!

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Sca (talk)

Merry Christmas

	Merry Christmas!!
	Hello, I wish you and your family a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year, Thanks for all your help on the 'pedia!    –Davey2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 16:46, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Holiday greetings

	🍁 Season's greetings from Canada 🎄
	Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for everything you do to maintain, improve, and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 02:47, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Best wishes for the holidays...

		Season's Greetings
		Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! Adoration of the Shepherds (Poussin) is my Wiki-Christmas card to all for this year. Johnbod (talk) 10:26, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Buon Natale

May you have very Happy Holidays, Gerda,

and a New Year filled with peace, joy, and beautiful music!

Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 19:08, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Warmest Wishes for Health, Wealth and Wisdom through the Holidays and the Coming Year! Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 12:46, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Frohe Weihnachten und ein glückliches Neues Jahr!

Beste Gerda,

Ich wünsche dir frohe Weihnachten und ein glückliches Neues Jahr.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen aus Belgien, --Réginald alias Meneerke bloem (To reply) 13:44, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy Christmas!

		Happy Christmas!
		Have a happy holiday season. May the year ahead be productive and happy. John (talk) 18:40, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's Greetings

	Wishing you a Charlie Brown Charlie Russell Christmas! 🎄
	"Best wishes for your Christmas Is all you get from me 'Cause I ain't no Santa Claus Don't own no Christmas tree. But if wishes was health and money I'd fill your buck-skin poke Your doctor would go hungry An' you never would be broke." —C.M. Russell, Christmas greeting 1914. Montanabw(talk)

Best of the Season to you

		Merry Christmas!
		Merry Christmas to you Gerda and a Happy and Prosperous New Year! Thank you also for your great work on the 'pedia. Cheers. :) Dr. K. 22:50, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Seasons greetings!

Dear Gerda, seasons greetings! And thanks for your message. Indeed I shall forget ArbCom for a little while! And your music selections are always appreciated. Best wishes --Jules (Mrjulesd) 18:58, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Gerda Arendt, I hope you have a Merry Christmas and hope your day is full of the true spirit of the day. Plus, good food, good family and good times. :) Have a Great Day! :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 01:00, 25 December 2015 (UTC) Spread the joy of Christmas by adding {{subst:User:Neutralhomer/MerryChristmas}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Merry Christmas

Wishing you a merry Christmas and a happy new year... Codename Lisa (talk)

Belated greetings!

Merry Christmas, happy holidays, and a happy new year Gerda. Apologies for the belated greetings, I am away traveling (and decompressing!). --regentspark (comment) 22:36, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Unser Mund sei voll Lachens, BWV 110

Gatoclass (talk) 00:03, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Leader's Greetings to you!

Leader's Greetings!

Dear Gerda Arendt,
A wise man said "man is the master of everything and decides everything". Reflecting the single-hearted unity of our editors, I have decided to send these Leader's Greetings to you – Gerda Arendt – a masterful Wikipedian professing indomitable independence, creativity and consciousness in editing. May the popular masses and world progressive people enjoy your contributions next year, too! Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 18:08, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy holidays on behalf of the North Korea working group, Gerda Arendt!

And now for 2016

A view of Lake Bondhus in Norway, and in the background of the Bondhus Glacier, part of the Folgefonna Glacier. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. — | Gareth Griffith-Jones |The WelshBuzzard| — 16:16, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Beautiful! Others with such wishes: please make it a subheader of this, for easy finding in the TOC.

DYK for Rakastava

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

What happened?

I thought Jean Sibelius was running in the lead slot on December 27 with an image. Now I see that someone switched the hook with a different one and buried Sibelius in the set. But it still got 20,999 hits! What happened here? Yoninah (talk) 22:07, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

It's absurd. First the bio wasn't run on the birthday, 8 Dec, with the argument that TFA and DYK should not cover the same subject, then the bio appeared today - no special Sibelius Day whatever, but looks like it because the bio appeared in the first set, a composition in the second set (see above). I am ashamed that my two very modest composition articles received an image but not the substantial bio by Ipigott. - I would go for TFA and DYK both highlighting a person on such an anniversary, and for having an image with an excellent article even if others appeared before. The stats don't include today, bio and composition. Ask David Levy. A thread is open on Did you know. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:18, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm puzzled by your apparent belief that contributions related to Sibelius are entitled to unceasing preferential treatment.

The main page exists for the benefit of Wikipedia's readers – not for a handful of editors, not for you or me, and not for Sibelius aficionados in particular. Sibelius's likeness was displayed on the main page three times this month, and you assert that the lack of a fourth appearance is "absurd".

There's nothing wrong with taking an interest in a specific subject and seeking to highlight contributions to our coverage thereof, but Wikipedia's editors (and the readers for whom they write) have many interests. The main page is intended to reflect this variety, not to reward those who demand exposure with the greatest frequency and persistence. —David Levy 22:56, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

You didn't understand me. Did you see the attention Frank Sinatra received: two complete sets one day all related to him? I am amused that you think I am an aficionado of Sibelius ;) - I believe that an image should have accompanied the substantial biography, not my little contributions, and am ashamed at the disproportion which I called absurd. I think that displaying the bio today instead of on the "birthday" was also absurd. We seem to have absurd rulez, and I would still not know where to find them. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:09, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes, @David Levy:, thank you for not pulling the Frank Sinatra hooks and messing up the spirit of that anniversary. Yoninah (talk) 23:11, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

That day's TFA wasn't Sinatra-related. Surely, you can appreciate the distinction. —David Levy 00:02, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

If only I could unwatch my own talk ;) - Repeating: the TFA about the symphony phantom did not show the person nor the work, and I would like to see where it is written that the bio could not be present, with an image, that same day (supported by a few compositions), - I would like to know because I think it's strange and should be discussed, in general. This has nothing to do with Sibelius, in whom I am only moderately interested) but the next people to be celebrated, such as Max Reger, who died in May 1916 (in whom I am also only moderately interested. See top, off to writing more on Ach Gott, wie manches Herzeleid, BWV 58). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:45, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

ps: I need the discussion for my own planning. I would like to make the Reger-related composition article a FA, to be shown on his day of death (which would make a lot of sense because it's called Requiem), write a few shorter articles on other compositions for DYK, perhaps try to expand the bio to GA. But if it is as you, and so far only you, say, I better don't improve to FA because I would step on my own toes. This rule (TFA and DYK not about the same topic) - if it exists - prevents article writing, do you see that? I wish that all groups for the Main page would work together, instead of excluding each other. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:08, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you're having difficulty hearing me. —David Levy 08:14, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Did you see the attention Frank Sinatra received: two complete sets one day all related to him?

Sibelius's birthday received forty-eight hours of nonstop prominence – including a TFA slot on the calendar date (UTC) and full sets of DYK hooks during the twelve hours before and after – thereby ensuring that all of the world's time zones were well represented. (In fact, only for the subsequent two hours did any part of Sibelius's birthday not coincide with the special content's appearance anywhere on Earth.) To my knowledge, this duration exceeded that of any other main-page coverage in Wikipedia's history.

I am amused that you think I am an aficionado of Sibelius ;)

I was referring to a segment of Wikipedia's visitors (as opposed to the site's readership at large).

I believe that an image should have accompanied the substantial biography, not my little contributions, and am ashamed at the disproportion which I called absurd.

You were aware of which hooks were and weren't included in the sets, in which the absence of non-Sibelius-related articles left us little alternative in the area of image selection.

I think that displaying the bio today instead of on the "birthday" was also absurd.

As you know, I wasn't involved in either decision.

We seem to have absurd rulez, and I would still not know where to find them.

I don't know whether the relevant convention is written somewhere. The contents of TFA, OTD, TFP and TFL are scheduled by a handful of administrators (who've attempted to apply the principle with great consistency over the years), so it might not have been deemed necessary. —David Levy 00:02, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

One of the people responsible for TFA is Gerda Arendt, DYK? I have no official function, but am part of a project that was behind many, more than 60 in 2015. Beginning in 2012, we started to go for more community influence on the Main page, and more transparency. Did you hear me asking WHERE there is a rule to prevent that TFA and DYK are related to the same topic? The discussion is on DYK, not here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:33, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Respectfully, I recommend that you reread the message to which you replied. —David Levy 17:34, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Your seem to underestimate the importance if feelings, like being ashamed. I don't know what you celebrate these days, - look for laughter on top. I would have been silent about something as strange as a Sibelius bio on 27 December, but Yoninah asked me here personally. I am silent now, off to the next cantata, said above. It's for 3 January, soon. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:50, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

If I didn't appreciate the importance of feelings, I'd have responded sarcastically instead of providing sincere advice and stressing that I did so respectfully. —David Levy 18:14, 28 December 2015 (UTC)

Hooks appearing in slots other than the first are far from "buried". Were that the case, what purpose would they serve? —David Levy 22:56/23:04, 27 December 2015 (UTC)