User talk:Sergecross73

Vandalism part 34

Serge's 34th iteration of his own personal WP:AIV and WP:RFPP. Feel free to report anything you feel may need admin intervention. Sergecross73 msg me 00:34, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi, based on the editing patterns, I'm wondering if @125.160.112.170 might actually be blocked editor @JustYourImaginaryGuy. Not sure how to report this; I noticed you dealt with the latter editor before. RegalZ8790 (talk) 05:12, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

I agree. I've blocked. Feel free to report incidents like this to me, and if I agree, I'll issue blocks or page protection as needed. Thank you! Sergecross73 msg me 13:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

I figured this was okay, just wanted confirmation. Anyway, he's at it again, now with @125.160.115.29... RegalZ8790 (talk) 01:19, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Blocked. Sergecross73 msg me 16:40, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

@Sergecross73 Back for another round as @125.160.113.185. What can be done with an individual who has no intentions of respecting Wikipedia and its community? RegalZ8790 (talk) 06:10, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Looks like someone else hit him with a WP:RANGEBLOCK. Hopefully that helps. Sergecross73 msg me 17:54, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, This user keeps reverting my changes saying they are vandalism. This IP traces back to the subject of the edits who has been using wikipedia to promote his own name, articles, and videos. He doesn't cite his work, he simply pastes it into other articles.

He has done this on the USNVGT page, https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Man_vs_Snakeand several others. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Special:Contributions/35.135.179.48

Surely this is against the terms. Thank you for looking into this. datagod (talk) 🍁 22:21, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Adding/restoring info without a source is definitely against policy. I don't know enough about these subjects to know who is correct in some of the disputes, nor am I following the accusations of self-promotion, but I'll warn them about the sourcing issues. Sergecross73 msg me 23:51, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

• KikanshaThomas1984 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Seems to be a WP:CIR case. Almost all of their edits in the past month, let alone nearly all edits in general, have been reverted. Typically adds unsourced or completely untrue information to articles, such as listing Takahiro Sakurai as Masahiro Sakurai's child with no evidence other than last name. Their most recent edit was editing the user page of a person who was blocked four months ago. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 18:10, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
  • I'm suspecting that they actually are that blocked user User:Taqi Inalessa Sany, as they refer to themselves as Taqi. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 18:13, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

    Blocked. I agree, I'm pretty sure it's block evasion, but even the disruptive editing alone is enough for a block. Sergecross73 msg me 18:52, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

• Colmedy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Two AIV ANI posts were made about this single purpose editor who WP:OWNs Mac Tonight and Talk:Mac Tonight. He has an editor group listed at User:HectorHawk9, and is a publisher on that subject.[1] He uses WP:ASPERSIONS and edit wars, to dominate anybody who deletes his mountains of WP:FANCRUFT or who tries to assert any Wikipedia policy. He explicitly combats the idea that an encyclopedia is WP:NOT a fan site or a WP:TRIVIA weblog. It's all on the talk page for the user account and the article. — Smuckola(talk) 22:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

  They've only made like 1 edit in 3 weeks, and there's very little in the way of talk page discussions within the last month. And as far as I can tell, nothing really came of the AIV/ANI discussions? And it doesn't particularly look like anyone's doing very much to explain to them what they're doing wrong... Sergecross73 msg me 00:05, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

  There are obviously a lot of discussions there as I said, and on several other users' talk pages that he hounded them at, and they quit apparently because this guy's bullying obliterated the community's collective efforts so he declared his war a victory. Everybody tried to explain everything in plain sight, right there, as I said. Anyway, I engaged even harder because admins failed to do anything, and I guess it worked for now FYI. Yeah the main response at ANI was a quite typical flood from the peanut gallery, barking about how Wikipedia actually has no rules whatsoever. — Smuckola(talk) 00:45, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

• I'm short on time (I slept in and gotta run to work crap crap crap) but can you look into Ariaslaga a little for me? Most definitely a WP:NOTHERE case. Panini! • 🥪 13:05, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  If you took any amount of time to address this on what basically amounts to an unpaid hobby rather than ensure you aren’t late to your paid job, you clearly have your priorities straight. Ariaslaga (talk) 13:14, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  I recommend defending yourself in a much more constructive manner very quickly. Sergecross73 msg me 13:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  Blocked. Returning customer. -- ferret (talk) 13:41, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks. Figured it was warranted but didn't have time to look into it yet. Sergecross73 msg me 13:45, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

  And I'll assure you that I wasn't late, but I needed at least some time to drink coffee and watch my morning show before going to work. If I don't have that it ruins my day lol. Thanks ferret! Panini! • 🥪 01:43, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• We Preform, We Rewrite the Norm (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Seems to be WP:CIR. Restoring articles that were redirects in abysmal quality. Recently restored Count Bleck just by copy-pasting the text from the Mario Wiki. Responded to a talk page warning with "amogus". --ThomasO1989 (talk) 17:56, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

  @ThomasO1989 Evading two blocks. CU confirmed and tagged. -- ferret (talk) 18:08, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

  Would you mind deleting this revision they added since it's a copy-vio? --ThomasO1989 (talk) 20:08, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

• Saturnpilot (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) This is a wordless, single-purpose, WP:MEATBOT editor. His only edits are all bare URLs about airports, including mass destruction of existing citation formatting, and ignoring years of warnings. I placed some of the worst examples at the bottom of Years' Warnings Mountain, aka his Talk page. Sadly I assume the only possible response could be elicited by a block. Thank you so much for any kind attention. — Smuckola(talk) 00:45, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  Most of their talk page seems to be about using bare urls. That's not a blockable offense. Sergecross73 msg me 00:57, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

  This is also incorrect, I have never blocked an editor for using bare urls before. I wouldn't, because it's not a blockable offense. Sergecross73 msg me 02:49, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

• 86.43.181.105 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) Adding unsourced developer credits to many different articles, sometimes undoing reverts of their edits. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 18:17, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

  Blocked, thank you. Sergecross73 msg me 02:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

• 86.44.23.187 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) Looks like the above user, a block evader. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 23:44, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

  Yup, already had my suspicions. Blocked. Sergecross73 msg me 01:12, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

• Hi! Can you help block 2601:840:4681:6E8A:7957:5652:EC80:E62C (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)? Likely a sockpuppet account of Meena Kurian (talk · contribs), which was banned for vandalizing Planet Zoo and various real-life zoo articles. OceanHok (talk) 11:30, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

About the Whole Yoshi's Island Sequel/Prequel Business

I understand what you meant in your edit summary. Do you think we might be able to compromise by stating Yoshi's Island as both a sequel and a prequel? 2603:6010:8B00:44FF:590:539E:5CC5:8241 (talk) 01:29, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

I think you're overthinking it. Those games have virtually no story. Sergecross73 msg me 02:07, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Understood. Thanks for the advice! 2603:6010:8B00:44FF:4CB5:B879:46CE:BCFD (talk) 01:49, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Calling a song a lead single

Hi Serge. Ik there's been plenty of discussion on the topic before, but I'd like some extra clarification if you don't mind. A song was released in Dec 2023 as a digital single. It was a standalone single as it was not stated to be part of any album at the time. Six months later, the artist who released said single announces an upcoming album and the standalone single is included on the tracklist. Is it accurate to write in the lede of the song article that it was released as the lead single from the upcoming album? I feel that this is misleading and incorrect as 1) there was no connection between the two until now and 2) two of the new songs on the album will be released as singles in support of it, one of which has been referred to in reliable secondary news sources as the album's actual lead single. Ik what the lead single WP article says, but it still doesn't feel right to me given the context surrounding this song. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 20:47, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

(talk page reader) @Carlobunnie: I'm going to answer because I once had this doubt too. See, a single is a single; it's self-evident that it was released before an album and certainly, in many cases, does not have any connection with any upcoming albums by the artist. I think the readers would easily understand what you are trying to say even when the lead says from the album because it is listed as a single, don't you think? Lunar-akaunto／talk 03:11, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, totally forgot about this, will chime in tomorrow. Sergecross73 msg me 03:18, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Carlobunnie - I agree with your sentiment. I wouldn't call it a "lead single" if, during its initial release, there was zero connection between it and its future album. Lead singles are meant to promote the album, but you can't promote what's non-existent. There's a lot of Wikipedia editors who often see things in black and white and wouldn't understand that nuance though, so I could see getting pushback on it from others, and I'm having a bit of trouble articulating it beyond this... Sergecross73 msg me 18:24, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your thoughts. Something similar to what I asked about occurred back in 2020 with "Dynamite (BTS song)". We added a single line at the end of the lead indicating it was a standalone single later included on an album. I've taken the same approach on the article of the song that prompted my question to you. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 19:17, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

@Carlobunnie: Oops, sorry, I misread your original question. I thought you were saying whether to remove "from the album", as in, "…is a song by artist from the album…" sentence. Sorry for that. It is definitely not appropriate to say it is a lead single from the album if there was no announcement stating the same by the artist. But wait, from this, I have a doubt for myself: when i think about it again, shouldn't from the album mention be only and only used for songs that were released as promotional singles from the album? I have seen some articles that don't use this in the lead but use it in the infobox instead. Isn't that incorrect in itself? Lunar-akaunto／talk 10:48, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

For instance, I was referring to Nobody (OneRepublic song). Isn't this incorrect? The song is probably from Kaiju soundtrack, but I removed it at the time because at the time the full track listing was not out. Someone's now added from the album because it was also included in their new album, but at the time of the release, as you said too, there was no connection between the two until now. What do you think about this? Lunar-akaunto／talk 07:42, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Just found this Template:Infobox song#album. Since I never created a song article myself, I didn't read this but I thought Template:Infobox song would be similar to Template:Infobox album? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Lunar-akaunto／talk 03:24, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Infoboxes external links

As Ss112 said here, I have removed the music video links from the infoboxes of other albums, but is an album trailer considered promotional too? Lunar-akaunto／talk 03:08, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm technically not aware of an official stance on this, but an album trailer's primary (only?) function is to promote an albums, so probably? Sergecross73 msg me 03:21, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Okay, will remove it too. Lunar-akaunto／talk 03:45, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Is the Billboard Japan Top Album Sales not suitable to include in the chart table? Can that only be used as a ref. for a separate sales table? Lunar-akaunto／talk 13:23, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm not 100% sure. I don't see it at WP:GOODCHART or WP:BADCHART. Usually anything from Billboard is okay unless certain scenarios arise, as seen in the chart at WP:BILLBOARDCHARTS. It's not there either though. You could always ask about it at WT:CHARTS too. Sergecross73 msg me 18:07, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

If I may, Lunar-akaunto the TAS chart is a component chart. If an album hasn't entered the Hot Albums chart, but ranks on any of the component Album charts, then the entry can be included in the table. If the album enters the Hot Albums ranking then none of the component charts should be included. You can use it in a sales table or to support prose in a Commercial performance section. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 19:12, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I don't spend a ton of time with charts stuff. I usually just add one or two to help demonstrate notability, and then let others take it from there. Sergecross73 msg me 19:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

@Carlobunnie and Sergecross73: Thank you both. I have removed it as well, as you specified. If you don't mind, could you please take a look and check if the chart formatting is okay now? Lunar-akaunto／talk 10:44, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Just saw that you have fixed what I'd missed. Thank you for that. Lunar-akaunto／talk 07:39, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Third party source needed for Set Me Free?

By Third Party Source what specifically is needed as a third party source for Set Me Free? Connor Marini (talk) 15:04, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

A website not connected to the content you're trying to add. For example, if a website like IGN or Gamespot wrote about the fan project stuff. We require that because otherwise the list would be overly long with unimportant examples. WP:VG/S is a good list of examples that will or won't work. Sergecross73 msg me 15:14, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Ah ok. Connor Marini (talk) 18:35, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Sega development divisions

How can we organize the pages for the Japanese Sega development divisions?: there are pages for the CS1 (RGG Studio), CS2 (Sonic Team), Fave R&D (Sega AM1, AM2) (and defunct studios like Sega Sports R&D, United Game Artists which have entangled up the former studio names, especially during the 2000s, especially with Hitmaker and Sega Rosso being under the Fave AM1/R&D1 page) However, CS1 & CS2 use their brand names on Wikipedia rather than their official division names (since those names are used whenever Sega is making a Sonic or Like a Dragon/Yakuza game). However on the games that are outside of those brand names, the Sega name is solely used instead. The Japanese Wikipedia has a lot of articles detailing Sega's development studios prior to the Sega Sammy formation (from 2000 to 2004) such as: Amusement Vision, Smilebit, the 2000 incarnation of Sega-AM2, Hitmaker, Sega Rosso and Sega WOW (including Overworks and WOW Entertainment) respectively. If there's any solutions to this, please let me know so we can figure things out. Thanks! VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 05:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

I'd recommend starting a discussion at Talk: Sega and then notifying WT:VG for input, if you wish to pursue this. That said...we have a pretty active group of editors working on Sega related things. I'd be a bit surprised if this was the correct path to take and no one else thought of it before. It's probably the way it is currently for a reason.

Semi-related - please stop changing the development field on individual games until you get a WP:CONSENSUS to move forward on this proposal. Sergecross73 msg me 13:22, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Discussions

It might be a slog, but if you do get some free time, would you be able to read over this discussion? Definitely not now, but do you think the argument put up for moving the article has any significance, or is it any valid for later? Now, I do not ask you this, expecting you to be involved in the discussion itself, or that if you do speak about it, I'll go there again. No. But i only ask you this since you have experience in discussions and for a third opinion.
Also, if replying or discussing with every person involved is WP:BLUDGEONING, how do we actually discuss? Do we just make our points and move on without actively replying to all the other posters? or does this only apply to the original poster? Lunar-akaunto／talk 14:55, 28 June 2024 (UTC)