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Tense

Hey bro. I have a few incomplete essays that I'd like to see about getting contributed upstream. I guess I should post this one on the talk page of WP:TENSE once I finish it. I have spent cumulative *days* correcting the irrationally nostalgic past tense from classic gaming and media articles, including majorly that N64 programming one. You should check out the first two paragraphs of this one anyway real quick: [1] ^_^ — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 17:17, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, as I was saying on the talk page, upon looking at some examples, I think you're right. I still wonder about a few of the instances where you were discussing the challenges of the developers. It seems like, as the system is no longer actively being developed for, it is no longer an active challenge to anyone, and would be more of a past tense. This is when referring to developers as the subject, not the specs, which themselves, would not affected by tense. I could be wrong though. I think I tend to write more about things that happened historically when I write things, (Band X released album Y on date Z, IGN reviewed the game and stated... - etc.) so I don't think about these things as much as you do. Sergecross73 msg me 17:25, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

@Sergecross73:But again, logically speaking, you've got to ask what it is and why it's important. "the developers" or "actively being developed for" implicitly arbitrarily defines some existential criteria, as being a flourishing commercial market. There is no reason for its validity to be based upon a market, for it to be commercial, for it to flourish, or for it to continue at all. It's not based on any people or any activity whatsoever. Its validity is purely theoretical, and notability is forever. They don't even need to be games. In encyclopedic tone, "the developer" is a totally theoretical concept, like "the royal 'we'". You know what else is notably theoretical? "The reader", because free encyclopedia authors have no idea if anyone will ever read half of what we write.  ;) The next new N64 apps could be autogenerated in the year 2050 by AI in two seconds, and a paper could be written about how inordinately difficult or how easy it was for that AI. In the meantime, as a trivial fact, yes people are nonetheless overall developing for it and almost all other consoles. But to an encyclopedia, it wouldn't matter if it's one person reverse engineering Ocarina of Time in a hex editor for speed running, or replacing all architectural problems in an emulator, or writing a demo, or writing a new game, or nobody at all. People are developing multitasking unix-like operating systems for 8-bit consoles, and other impossible things. Carnegie-Mellon University had a course on NES game development a few years ago. I know that you know that there are massive amounts of homebrew and secondary commercial markets for the most obscure and difficult systems, such as Atari 2600 and whatnot. It's not for us to dictate. These arguments are all biased attempts to defy or make exceptions to *basic* logical encyclopedic neutrality, and I really appreciate your discussion on it because it's making me explore how to make the most helpful tense guide possible. The only way I learned many neutrality issues was due to extensive examples, case by case. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 22:10, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

All that aside, the wording in the article is a little awkward. It sounds like a personal essay (or just personal musings) and I believe that is what leads it to people questioning its notability. I fear it's something you may have to fend against if you leave it as is. Sergecross73 msg me 03:26, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

@Sergecross73:It's hard to imagine anyone else being so far out of touch (either with the subject or with the obvious reason for having created the article, as is stated right there in the log) as to question the subject's and article's actual notability. As for the wording and such, yeah. I have really struggled with copy editing it several times, due to not being a programmer. It might require expert attention, and it definitely requires a more robust set of sources which are somewhat available and which I've only begun to look up. I could possibly expand it myself once I find more clearly written sources, at least in terms of a detailed industry reception. — Smuckola (Email) (Talk) 13:22, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Ooo! Threats!

"If you don't stop this sort of disruptive editing, you're going to get blocked again, because your block log shows you should know better by now."

Hilarious.

If anyone's being "disruptive", it's your pal Schmuckola, who seems determined to follow me around like a puppy and revert my edits. You need to be chastising him (and his nauseating brand of self-love and internet badassery), not me.RMc (talk) 23:45, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm instructing you to use sources. The foundation of the entire website. Do it or get blocked again. (Smuckola knows and does this. And this, I'm not warning him.) Sergecross73 msg me 23:59, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

RMc, it's not against policy to "stalk" users as far as I'm aware. If you want Smuckola off your trail, give him a reason to be. All content additions to Wikipedia articles have to have sources or be unchallengable (and if one is challenged, it is by definition not unchallengeable), and this goes for everyone. Two wrongs don't make a right, so existing things being unsourced doesn't mean it's okay to add more - however, on the flip side, you also have the right to remove unsourced statements you didn't add. Tezero (talk) 01:35, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Princess Daisy for Super Smash Bros 4 for Wii U and 3DS

• I would like you to talk about Princess Daisy being Confirmed for the Super Smash Bros 4 game if you go to the Super Smash Bros Wii U Talk page and the Super Smash Bros 3DS Talk page then if you want to write something about Princess Daisy go to the Super Smash Bros 4 talk page. 71.175.79.183 (talk) 20:35, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

• Until she is actually confirmed, it should not go in her article, or the Smash Bros. article. Edits like this do not belong in the article, not only because its not sourced, but because I don't believe its even true. The game is out in a few days in Japan, so any of these character questions will be pretty certain by then. Sergecross73 msg me 20:48, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Speaking of which... Serge, would you mind protecting Duck Hunt, Dr. Mario, Bowser Jr., Koopalings, etc for the next 2 days? IPs are already starting to add unsourced information regarding the game's release to the articles. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 15:25, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Is it vandalism/inappropriate content? Or just stating that characters from it are going to be in Smash Bros? I've seen a lot of articles from RS's in my Twitter feed writing articles about them being in the game? Sergecross73 msg me 15:44, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

STOP NOW

Do not threaten me anymore!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stayheredusttodust (talk • contribs) 11:22, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

As long as you keep adding false information to Wikipedia, you're going to be warned by Admin like myself, like it or not. If you don't want warnings, then don't be disruptive. Sergecross73 msg me 12:59, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

No need to semi-protect anything

Look, We were editing the Type-0 entry based on this blog post right here: http://www.elotrolado.net/hilo_hilo-oficial-final-fantasy-type-0_1565002_s2940#p1736832737

No need to threat anyone or protect the page, since that doesn't give a very good image of yourself. We just want to have all the information at Wikipedia as accurate as possible, right?. Now I see the erroneous information is gone from the Wikipedia article and I thank you for that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.134.117.107 (talk) 23:58, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Myltiple times, the IP had been asked to explain their edits, and yet the didn't. And a random blog isn't a reliable source, so... Sergecross73 msg me 00:09, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Don't you see that's the fan translation thread? You didn't even take the time to read the post I linked xD. In any case I take my thanks back: it's up to you to have the wrong information posted, lol — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.116.0.189 (talk) 00:43, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, a random forum isn't a reliable source. It's not even Sky's forum/website. You need a better source to counter all the other sources that report otherwise. Anyone can register for a forum and say whatever, so that's not usuable. Sergecross73 msg me 01:06, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

I think I know what's going on: The C&D business is BS, is that it? You can go straight to (Redacted) and see how the team is still working on the translation. How come it's down when you can still build it from Sky's site (Redacted) And download the last updates from the team here: (Redacted) I'm currently playing it, 100% recommended for classic final fantasy fans! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.88.49.42 (talk) 08:23, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

I have no answers for the situation you pose, only information on how Wikipedia works. We only go by what reliable sources say. WP:VG/RS has a large example of useable websites, but in general, the IGN/GameSpot/VG247 type sites. VG247 says there was a cease and desist given. Your counter evidence is a random person on a message board who can't even write a proper sentence. (I assume the sentence you're referencing for your "proof" is " In no moment he received any C&D, that would have made sense BEFORE releasing the patch." right? That's rough. Anyways, messageboard post type stuff, is not useable as a source - it violates WP:SPS. (There are some few exceptions, for example, if there was a corporate Square/Sony messageboard post from an account that could not be faked, might be able to be used. But not just a random account on a random website.) Unless a reliable source, the type I was talking about above, writes an article or retraction, then we stick with the original story. Its how things work here. Sergecross73 msg me 13:10, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

I guess you don't know we belong to the fan translation team. I hate to be this guy, but if you want your source, check your GameFaq inbox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.134.117.107 (talk) 13:37, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

It not my intent to be condescending. I'd like to point out that it's been removed 4 times without any explanation or discussion. How was I to know that it's not just some rando vandalizing the article. Until your message today, no one has mentioned that they were any sort of authority on this. You have no idea how much garbage anonymous editors add to the site. I'm currently dealing someone who keeps claiming bands are reforming and putting out new albums. All hoaxes. So forgive me for not instantly believing a random anonymous editor.

Anyways, can you get a website to do a retraction or update or something? It's just going to be a recurring issue if it's well known video game websites versus a poorly written messageboard post. Sergecross73 msg me 14:05, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Look...

...if you and Schmuckola want to follow me around, I guess I can't stop you. Whatever. Have your fun. I'm done with both of you. RMc (talk) 22:21, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Fantastic. Thank you. Sergecross73 msg me 22:45, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Tales of Hearts

The presence or lack of a tracklist for the soundtrack is turning into an edit war. It got reverted back from when you did it and when I tried, it was reverted again. Should it just be left alone, or taken to the article's talk page and/or VG Project talk page? --ProtoDrake (talk) 10:33, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Let's start at the talk page. I would have started there, but since the IP gave no reason other than "this stays" or whatever, and doesn't edit much, made me think they wouldn't be back. Sergecross73 msg me 11:06, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

Interview request

Hello Sergecross73, The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter is looking for editors to feature for its first and second quarter of 2015. This sounds like it's a long way off, but time catches up to us pretty quickly. The WP:VG Newsletter has spoken with most of the admins that regularly contribute at WP:VG, but you remain elusive and unaccounted for. :) The Newsletter would love to rectify this through an interview with our last brave mop-wielder in the trenches. What say you? If you have time for an interview please let me know at my talk page and then either I or GamerPro64 will contact you with a set of interview questions. You can get a sense of the kinds of questions you will be asked by reviewing the featured editor interviews at the Newlsetter's index, and of course you'll be notified when the interview runs in the Newsletter. -Thibbs (talk) 15:03, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Thibbs, Yeah, sounds good. I was always jealous Salvidrim was asked way before me! ;) Let me know what you want me to do and I'll do it. Sergecross73 msg me 18:17, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Aww, come on. I posted a short while after my own interview recommending you and a few others as likely subjects. ;) ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 18:27, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

That's even worse! I was even on the radar, and still was passed over until now! ;) No, it's fine. I'm pretty active in the community, but I don't do much in the way of working closely with others on rewrites (because my focuses are always random and whatever is interesting in that given passing moment) or GA/FA reviews (because I don't really deal with much of that) so I don't tend to make very many long-term buddies on the project. And thus, I'm last in line. :) Sergecross73 msg me 22:03, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Last perhaps, but certainly not for lack of merit. Indeed some of the algorithms used to generate likely candidates for interviews weigh involvement in special subtopics of WP:VG heavily so the kind of broad-focus involvement that comes with random interests (my favorite style of involvement too) flies under the radar... But no longer! Your actions have caught the attention of the WP:VG press and the interview is hereby scheduled. It will run in the 1st quarter 2015 issue and WP:VG Newsletter staff will contact you shortly with the questions. Hold onto your mop and prepare to be grilled! :) -Thibbs (talk) 00:03, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Haha, thanks Thibbs! Sergecross73 msg me 12:49, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

• OK that took longer than expected, but since this is due for first quarter of 2015 the last-minute-panic that normally helps the WP:VG Newsletter function so well was missing so I'll blame that. :) Anyway the interview is ready for responses whenever you're ready: here. Also remember that you can tweak your answers however you wish up until the newsletter goes out which will be some time in early April 2015. Thanks again for your help! -Thibbs (talk) 16:49, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Thibbs, no problem. And you came up with some pretty good interview questions! I'll start working on them soon. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 16:55, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Content conflict

Hi sorry, this is beyond a content conflict, the user is making false claims regarding the edit (check his recent one where he said "not in source", 1) he did not have sufficent time to read the full article if that is what he was trying to claim, and 2) the point is clearly mentioned in the abstract. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.143.95.63 (talk) 12:57, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

No, that's still a content conflict. Its interpretation of content. Stop posting it at ANI, it doesn't belong there. I'm an Admin, let me try to look into it on the respective talk page. Sergecross73 msg me 13:02, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

This is clear WP editors acting as a clique. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.143.95.69 (talk) 21:38, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

No, it's about breaking 3RR. And now block evading. Sergecross73 msg me 21:55, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

How is it evade blocking? You have banned IP not the user. Anyway this is bigger than you expected. I'm contacting wiki official about this. You have gone beyond guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.226.80 (talk) 22:01, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

82.132.226.80, for better or for worse, sockpuppetry to avoid blocks is against the rules. As an admin, Serge is going to enforce them. Tezero (talk) 22:10, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Tge person behind the IP is blocked. Switching IPs is block evasion and not allowed. Now please, I'm growing tired of you advising me on policy. I don't mean to pull rank but I've been here almost 6 years. You reading over policy and trying to grasp it isn't going to provide me with any revelations on policy. This is a very common situation, I've got it under control. Sergecross73 msg me 22:27, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm sorry by Sergio is going beyond guidelines. I know, I've just read them. I'm new to these thigns, and the guidelines state its preferable to education -- thats what I mean by saying you have ogne beyond guidelines -- and also three days is longer than is recommended for a first offence. Also, the disapointing thing is, he seemed like a nice guy at first and resolved the issue for us, then he banned me 10 hours later and made a big speech about be O I should be nice to his friend.

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Blocking_policy#Blocks_should_not_be_punitive

Anyway, I'm contacting wiki proprperly about this as this is obviousyl done for reasons/motivations other than he says. Shame as I genuinely thought he was a nice guy - then he blocks me under the pretence of something I don't even understand. Why not educate and create a loyal editor etc, rather than instigate a ban ten hours later? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.65.96 (talk) 22:30, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Also why have you not posted the block here: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents : for peer review? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.65.96 (talk) 22:39, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

And why haven't you paid attention to this:

Administrators should take special care when dealing with new users. Beginning editors are often unfamiliar with Wikipedia policy and convention, and so their behavior may initially appear to be disruptive. Responding to these new users with excessive force can discourage them from editing in the future. See Wikipedia:Do not bite the newcomers.

I'm a new user, you have not taken any account of that... This is completely excessive. You are punihsing me for something I was unaware. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.114.46 (talk) 22:45, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

I have reported you to the ANI board. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.114.46 (talk) 22:50, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Why would I post my block on ANI? This is just more evidence that you don't quite understand ANI, or Wikipedia. Feel free to go contact whoever. I'm sure they'll review your edits, see how you violated 3RR, block evaded, and called another person a fool, and think "Gee, this nice guy needs to be unblocked! Damn you, Serge!" Sergecross73 msg me 22:57, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

I suppose this could happen if the situation appeared that you (the IP) had only evaded blocks that were made unjustly to plead your innocence, but it's not likely. Violating 3RR is among the more forgivable of offenses, but personal attacks - especially in place of actual arguments - are firmly against the rules here, and it won't help your case at all if you're expecting to be unblocked. Don't most IP addresses change after a while anyway? Why would you even want to push your luck? Tezero (talk) 23:48, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Hang in there

Been there before. Don't worry; I'm sure the Most Reverent Honorable Wiki Chancellor will sort things out. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 01:29, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Haha, thanks for your support. I'm fine though. It was a clear cut 3RR violation by an IP who wasn't exactly being an angel around others. His claims of me ruining Wikipedia are the equivalent of calling a cop who pulled over a person who was overtly speeding the cause for the decline in civilization - it's ridiculous. Even beyond that, he's putting on such a childish tantrum that no one's going to listen to his tirade. Nothing to stress out over. Sergecross73 msg me 02:37, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

No good deed goes unpunished. Thanks for moderating the article's talk page. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 02:43, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Great job

Hey, nothing much, just wanted to say "thanks" for your recent WP:VG work so far, such as The Legend of Legacy. Looks like you're interested in FuRyu games as well :) Satellizer (´ ･ ω ･ `) 13:09, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Satellizer - Thanks! And thanks for always cleaning up my refs too! I haven't played any of their games yet, but I do want to, they do tend to look good. Unchained Blades is in my backlog of PSP games to play, and I was disappointed to see that Exstetra seems unlikely to ever be translated. I feel like there was another one too, but I can't recall the name at the moment... Sergecross73 msg me 13:16, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Lost Dimension was published by FuRyu, though it may or may not be the one that you're thinking of. And yeah, it's certainly a shame that Exstetra wasn't translated, it certainly looked really promising. Quite a lot of times I wish I knew Japanese, and I may try to learn the language someday... Satellizer (´ ･ ω ･ `) 13:23, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I believe that was it, because that was the one I was about to create, and then found that you had already put together a really well done article on it. I remember being shocked because I expected it to be like how it was when I did my initial search on The Legend of Legacy or Chaos Rings 3 - where there's either nothing, or just a redirect. Lost Dimension looks good too. Seems like its still possible for it to get a translation, although I don't believe it sold very well in Japan though... Sergecross73 msg me 13:55, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Suspicious edits on Atari Jaguar

I'd say there's at least a remote possibility this IP could be Jak, defending one of his favorite underrated consoles. You may want to watch it.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 04:07, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree. I still have it on my watchlist from the Jak days. I've protected the page too. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 15:00, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Re: Apologies

Oh, no worries, it's not a big deal. We just try to keep it down to a manageable amount. --PresN 17:45, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Help with an anon

There's an anon user [2] who seems to be intent on WP:BLP violation. His or her only previous foray into Wikipedi was to vandalise your talk page.

Any idea if they are an alter-ego of a regular user?

JASpencer (talk) 15:33, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, he's an IP who threw a tantrum a week ago when I blocked him for a basic 3RR violation. Then he block evaded a bunch of times to write silly little things on my user page. As far as I know, he just traces back to the original IP I blocked, which didn't really have a history of editing much. I warned the IP about the BLP issues. Let me know if you notice that he doesn't stop. I'll block him again. Sergecross73 msg me 15:49, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

He seems to be keen on making assertions on the talk page Talk:Andrew Rosindell. The page seems to have attracted another unconnected editor who's a bit of a conspiracy nut. JASpencer (talk) 18:26, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, assertions or requesting more information? Assertion is making a statement, requesting information is asking for further information on a topic - whilst asking if there are any things supporting this. Or are IP users not allowed to request information? I could use my login name to request stuff, would that be preferable? Serious replies only please. Thanks!

Oh as an aside, there's an election coming up. MPs such as this are going to attract much activity on their pages to ensure voters are aware of all relevant information. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.43.249 (talk) 16:25, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

You are allowed to ask questions, IP or username. You're not allowed to ask questions that contain content that could be WP:BLP violations. That's all. Sergecross73 msg me 16:33, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Shaun Foist edits

Greetings... I saw your question, but was unable to respond directly. Yes, I am his manager - but only deal in facts and not the elaborations, so I hope you can appreciate that I am doing my best here to keep content here accurate without it being 'flowery' or self serving in a promotional manner. I am not a Wiki expert, so I do appreciate the guidance that I have received from so many. I did want to mention one thing though... the band, 'breaking benjamin' - in all accuracy, they do not capitalize the 'b' in their name. You can look to their official band web site media to validate this. I attempted to revert this edit, but was told that it had to be done manually across the page. If possible, once I DO take care of this, notations can be made that this is 'band accuracy' (while not necessarily being viewed as such by the general layperson who might want to come in and change this).

I've also added some additional media citations - with more to come in the next few weeks, so hopefully the 'un-notable' mention at the top of the page can be removed. He's very much a real entity and quite notable in the drumming and music community.

I also note that other musicians on Wikipedia mention and link to their product endorsement pages - but Shaun's were removed. Is there a reason for that? That simply further solidifies his importance in the music community, because endorsements from the manufacturer's of the equipment that you use are very hard to come by. They don't hand those out to just anyone. So if you can shed some light on this, I would greatly appreciate it. Many thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiTruthTime (talk • contribs) 20:44, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

• Hi there. I had initially started talking to you to make sure you were aware of Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines, since, well, its usually pretty difficult for a manager, someone who's paid for a living to promote someone, to stay neutral on that topic, but it seems you've been notified a few times about this, so I won't go any further on it. I will say that, the more you declare yourself an authority on him (his manager) the more push back you're probably going to receive, because there are so many people who try to abuse Wikipedia as a means of promotion. Its good to openly declare your relation to him, yes, but I wouldn't use it as an arguing point.
• In regards to this edit summary, I did not delete your file. It looks like this person did. I merely put the old image back after yours was deleted by that other person, because I figured the old one was better than nothing. I'm not an image expert, so I'd go talk to the person who deleted it, but in general, it seems like "official promo materials with the band's official logo" usually fall into Wikipedia's rather strict "copyright violation".
• While I'm sure Shaun Foist is good and known drummer, this is not "Drummer-pedia". Wikipedia requires third party sources to cover a person in significant detail in order for it to meet the Wikipedia notability guidelines. almost everything in the article is either "first party" (social media, band websites, interviews) or passing mentions that are about the band's he's in, not him himself. (aka just about every article about Breaking Benjamin reforming so far). I think the only good example of a source that would go towards notability would be this one - its centrally about him, detailed, and third party. The rest so far, not so much.
• Don't take it personally. There are a lot of individual band members that don't have their own articles. For example, look at comparable band Trapt - zero individual band member pages. Looking around for examples, there are a lot that probably rightfully should be deleted, but aren't because no one's noticing them. And unfortunately, that's what it comes down to sometimes. I don't personally plan on trying to delete it...but if someone started up a formal discussion on it, according to policy, I'd support deletion.
• Same goes with the endorsements. It's not that it's "okay for others to list them, but not SF", but rather, no one's "caught" the other people doing it, and deleted it. Because again, Wikipedia is not the place for promotion, and that's pretty much the only thing an endorsement is. You can mention what types of gear he uses, just don't write it like an ad or something.
• Wikipedia follows standard English practice, so, even if the band stylizes it as "breaking benjamin", the article's name, and mentioning of it, should be "Breaking Benjamin". (You'll notice that on Wikipedia, it's "Fun", not "fun." or "Kesha", not "Ke$sha", for example. That's just how the website works. Sergecross73 msg me 22:53, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

@Sergecross73 (whoops - I forgot to sign my above note - sorry!) - yes, I see where you're coming from (and I apologize for not acknowledging your comments sooner - just getting to them, seeing them - I simply didn't notice initially so was not deliberately ignoring. As mentioned, I'm learning, yes - and just trying to go with the flow and learn more. With more performance dates in the works and a full-blown tour at some point, all of these subjective media references will be reinforced with other, more mainstream media in the third person (i.e., 'movie reviews' are better than the actor talking about their 'movie' --- I think I get it now!). Insofar as that photo, it's easy enough to remove the logo from the band members, so I will resubmit that picture and hopefully it flies. Really appreciate your help and guidance. Thank you for taking the time! ALSO --- can you help walk me through on changing my edit/screen name? I took that on a long time ago (bad joke - bad dare from a friend - long story) and it really doesn't suit me and actually feels offensive, as was also pointed out to me - I don't wish to be viewed as that presumptuous! Many thanks! WikiTruthTime (talk) 23:29, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

• Indeed, the reason I'm not pushing harder for a deletion or redirect on his article is because I believe being in such a big name band like Breaking Benjamin will probably make it so he meets the requirements. But you should still take what I say seriously, because different people have different opinions on how aggressively to pursue deletions, and as I was saying, I do believe a case could be made against Shaun Foist, if someone really pushed.
• As far as changing your name goes, I do agree that it is a good idea to change it. As someone mentioned on your talk page, a lot of the time the people who choose to include allusions to "truth" or "righting great wrongs" in their usernames, are the ones who are here to cause a ruckus. So it'd be good to distance yourself from that, as that does not seem to be what you're about. Anyways, I've never gone through the process myself, but I believe if you look through Wikipedia:Changing username, you should be able to do it. You need someone even higher than an Admin to do it, so I can't personally do it for you, but you have a pretty good case, so I don't foresee any problems. Sergecross73 msg me 18:27, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Since the ANI was deleted

Yes, I've seen dumber things than that. I've seen the CEO of a company not know how to resize a window on Windows. Anything's plausible. Tutelary (talk) 00:17, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, me too, but not experienced editors going to ANI to get their password... >_> Sergecross73 msg me 00:19, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

ISIS Talk

On my old IP page, we had a length discussion were you warned me for pursuing an agenda on the ISIS talk page.

This is what I posted (titled under Wikipedia Force for Good):

I think Wikipedia could be a useful vehicle here, and maybe list some of the various international muslim communities that have condemned ISIS. For example, in the UK there is "not in my name" campaign by British Muslims. Perhaps this information could be placed near the top, so its prominent. This wouldn't be manipulative or untruthful, but it would be useful for people to have this information spelt out to them clearly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.43.249 (talk) 01:00, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Care to explain what about this was pushing a point of view? As I said before you took campaign out of context, and said i was proposing a campaign, which is disingenuous of you Sir, considering the thing I spoke of is here: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/notinmyname-young-british-muslims-stand-4274392

Just i still feel like you are a bully, even more so if you cannot justify what was wrong with this post on the talk page... Especially considering that information has now been included in the main article.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.60.90 (talk) 00:53, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

You mentioned using Wikipedia "as a vehicle", and likened your efforts to a "campaign". Whether you intended it or not, that sounds a lot like a violation of WP:PROMOTION. All you received was an accurate notification about policy, so I'm not sure what sort of retribution you're expecting. I think you need to re-evaluate your understanding of the term "bully". Notifying you of policy is not being a bully. Even if I was wrong (hypothetically), that wouldn't make me a "bully". Sergecross73 msg me 00:53, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Wrong feet

We got off on the wrong foot (in fact, I'd say I unwisely got off on both feet). I'd been reading ANI for some time before I registered my account, and I've seen both abuse of editors by admins and abuse of admins by editors - and I condemn both. I think there is a growing tendency to make blocked editors jump through too many hoops and an increasing bureaucratization of Wikipedia processes, and I think that makes things increasingly impenetrable for new and inexperienced users and for users who come up against admin action - I have many years experience of computer development and web use, and even I find the whole Wikipedia culture and rule book extremely daunting. But I was wrong to take out my frustrations on the handful of admins who were working on Lukejordan02's unblock, and I'm happy to repeat my apology. Neatsfoot (talk) 13:41, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I apologize for being a bit harsh with you too. I'm trying to sort through a few disputes at the moment and I think I'm losing my patience a bit. Once they wrap up, which they almost have, I'll go back to concentrating on content-creation, which will get my normal demeanor back. Anyways, let me know if you need assistance in the future. Sergecross73 msg me 13:53, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Neatsfoot (talk) 14:08, 6 October 2014 (UTC)