User talk:Sergecross73/Archive 70
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Hi, I spotted this edit and thought it sounded threatening/confrontational. More to the point though, several of the dates added are wrong, so I will be changing some of the dates one by one. This isn't particularly helpful editor behaviour IMO. Any help appreciated. Thanks! JamminBen (talk) 20:25, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for the heads up JamminBen. I appreciate you saying something - I actually already warned this person about that edit summary yesterday. As you say, they are out of line on multiple levels. It’s good to see that someone came to the same conclusion I had.
- So anyways, definitely go ahead and make any edits you need to. Ignore his threats, he’s in no place to make them, but definitely report them to me if you see him make further threats to yourself or anyone else. Thanks! Sergecross73 msg me 22:13, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, will do! JamminBen (talk) 08:51, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
Nomination of New Game Network for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article New Game Network is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Game Network until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Domeditrix (talk) 15:54, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- Am I being notified because I added a notability tag to the article....in 2016...? That’s the only connection I recall between myself and this article. Was there something more? Sergecross73 msg me 16:02, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- There's very little to link any but a smattering of largely inactive accounts to the page, for which the AfD has already been re-listed once. As somebody that at least cast an eye towards the tone of the article once before, I'd hoped you may be able to provide a comment. Of course it's not necessary, and feel free to ignore this post. Domeditrix (talk) 16:07, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- No no, that’s fine. I just wasn’t sure - that template you used is usually more for article creators, major contributors, or people who have heavily discussed the subject before, is all. Thanks fir the background info. Sergecross73 msg me 16:09, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- There's very little to link any but a smattering of largely inactive accounts to the page, for which the AfD has already been re-listed once. As somebody that at least cast an eye towards the tone of the article once before, I'd hoped you may be able to provide a comment. Of course it's not necessary, and feel free to ignore this post. Domeditrix (talk) 16:07, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Unilateral deletion of New Nintendo 2DS XL
There was no consensus for that "merger" which had no other edits associated with it. The 2DS XL is not simply a "bigger Nintendo 2DS" but a different model more in line with the New Nintendo 3DS, and also has its own distinct reception that has been expanded upon. ViperSnake151 Talk 20:20, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- Whoa there, you’re jumping a step here. It was nothing more than a WP:BOLD edit. The B in WP:BRD. There’s nothing wrong with that as long as I don’t revert further, which I have not, nor will I. You’re free to disagree with the redirect, but my actions were allowed. (Should also note that it was a redirect, not a deletion or merger with scare quotes.) Sergecross73 msg me 20:31, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Revisiting the G-Zay situation
Hi, Serge. I’ve updated the G-Zay evidence page and we might need to look over any sock puppets that we might have missed other than the SPI investigation and taggings. Thoughts about this? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 08:24, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Hi Sjones. I’m not opposed to assisting, but I’m not entirely sure what you had in mind for the next step exactly. Sergecross73 msg me 16:05, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Assistance with Edge (video game)
Could you assist me with Edge (video game) Its currently under GA review and addressed most of the issues. the main concern I have is the reception section. I originally added scores and some quotes but that wasn't enough for GA status and had to be revised. I revised as much as I could but still need some assistance on it. I'd appreciate any help really. :) ( I already requested assistance from Masem as well). I'm asking anyone with GA achievements under their belt. Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 16:21, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Hey, do you use this mag a lot? I found their review for To Be Everywhere Is to Be Nowhere and thought I'd add it to the table if nothing else, because they chose to do a track-by-track for this one which is more difficult for encyclopedia articles, but they use K's (I assume "kerrangs") instead of stars or a number point system for ratings. I could've sworn we used a special template in their tables for the K's they gave (at least at one point), and I can't find an example of what I'm looking for. If we do, is it still even around? Might it be deprecated? Also, is the maximum amount of K's five? I'm sorry I'm asking so many questions if you don't know. I put it in there as "KKKK" for now but I don't think that's right. dannymusiceditor oops 20:10, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- Personally, when I use the source, I just use stars, because there’s conceptually no difference between four out of five stars, and four out of five “K”s - they both equate to a value of 80%. (WP:RSMUSIC says it’s a 0-5 scale.) But I don’t recall if my stance was the ending consensus or not. Seems like there were long, pointless debates on it, and kinda like that recent discussion about genre categories, I dropped out well before it was done because it felt like it wasn’t worth spending time on. I’d recommend doing it how you want and just not contesting it if someone corrects it to an existing consensus, though you could probably wade through the WT:ALBUMS archives if you’ve really got to know... Sergecross73 msg me 20:43, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- How's this, eh? Wrote most of that today. dannymusiceditor oops 21:40, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- Very nice, it’s looking good. I feel like I should give them a shot sometime, but I’ve never listened to them much, other than “Hurricane”, which I loved and created the article for. Sergecross73 msg me 23:24, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- This whole album is fantastic in different ways for different songs. "Whistleblower", "Blood on the Sand", and "Death from Above" also kick some serious ass. This is their best record, hands down. And you can't say that about most bands' ninth records. dannymusiceditor oops 00:14, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- Very nice, it’s looking good. I feel like I should give them a shot sometime, but I’ve never listened to them much, other than “Hurricane”, which I loved and created the article for. Sergecross73 msg me 23:24, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- How's this, eh? Wrote most of that today. dannymusiceditor oops 21:40, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Harassment while logged out
Hi Serge. Ordinarily I would go to Ad Orientem with issues like this, but he's on a semi-wikibreak at the moment so I thought you might know how best to deal with the situation, as editors don't seem to care about other non-admins admonishing them. I created the article Girl (Maren Morris album) a few weeks back, and an unnecessary note was later added to the opening by the editor Mathiasabra that the title was stylized in all caps—it's not consistent in sources, it makes no difference to nor enhances readers' understanding, and it makes the lead wordier than it needs to be. I removed it once and a week ago, came back to the article and found another editor (I didn't check who) had again added it, so removed it with a note this time. Just earlier, I discovered that an IP later that same day restored it again with an edit summary sniping at me, which didn't even really make a lot of sense as it didn't confront my point and was really trying to criticise me by saying my "entitlement" is "irrelevant" and that I "harass other editors with it"...all because I removed a note. I'm really about done with IP editors being critics while hiding behind anonymity, so it really irked me. As I do with a lot of IPs (as their geolocation can sometimes be a sign as to who they are, if they are block evading, etc), I found their address geolocates to Norway. I then thought it could have been the editor who was originally adding the note, and lo and behold, Mathiasabra lives in Norway, as stated on their profile. I believe they logged out to harass me because their only other edit is to a page Mathiasbra created, Ruston Kelly, which is a dead giveaway that it's them. Ss112 02:50, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- I’ve given them a warning about editing while logged out, because you make a good case that it’s likely happening. Let’s start there and see where it goes. Sergecross73 msg me 20:12, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) "Entitlement" wasn't the word they were looking for, it was probably "claim" or better yet "assertion" and the IP may have mistranslated that. Just for the record. Unfortunately, it would appear he doesn't seem to care, either. I can only hope he does. dannymusiceditor oops 23:24, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
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″== Sonic Mania Lego Set ==
Hello, sorry if my contribution looked suspicious. It was meant to be a recognization of Mania's popularity instead, since few other (if any) Lego Ideas submissions got that many supporters in such a short timeframe. Also, I didn't really have much choice with the source, since the Lego Ideas page itself is the only option other than a "citation needed". On one hand I do agree that maybe I posted it too hasty, perhaps I should have waited until the third milestone (10000 subscribers) to avoid any doubts about attention whoring, since the third milestone is the final one and Lego Ideas doesn't look for user feedback anymore at that point. Because, on the other hand, I still think this is worth mentioning. Above all of this, please note that I didn't design that set, I'm just a Wikipedian who happen to like Sonic. So, what do you think? Would it be appropriate to restore that paragraph once the 10000 subscribers milestone is reached? It would be mere documentation at that point.
Nineko (talk) 14:39, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hi there. Usually, with this sort of things, we’d only include it on Wikipedia if reliable reliable third party sources cover it. So, for example, if somewhere like IGN or Eurogamer do a story on it. As such, I doubt that would happen unless it gets to the point where it’s actually funded/approved for production. I’d do that over counting voters or signatures or that sort of metric. It’s probavly not worth mentioning unless they actually go through with the project. Sergecross73 msg me 14:24, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- Would this Kotaku article be a valid source? 95.157.57.49 (talk) 22:40, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, it would. I won’t oppose a mention of this with the Kotaku source. Sergecross73 msg me 22:55, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. I've been on Wikipedia for over a decade now, but I still have lots to learn! Also glad to see that someone else found a solution. By the way, I didn't want to "count votes or signatures" per se, I only mentioned the 10000 subscribers milestone because that's the final one on the Lego Ideas website, leaving the verdict entirely in Lego's hands at that point. That's why I (later) suggested that it would have been a proper timing for a mention on Wikipedia according to the NPOV criteria (e.g. "the idea was pitched on the Lego Ideas portal, and it reached the required 10000 subscribers in N days", with a future addendum like "the set was ultimately approved for production and hit the shelves on DAY" or "however, the set wasn't greenlit by Lego"). This was just an idea, though. As I said, I'm glad that someone more expert than me found a better way to handle it. Best regards.
Nineko (talk) 00:16, 7 March 2019 (UTC)- No worries, there’s a lot to know about editing Wikipedia. I’m glad there was a source found too, though I had kind of thought you were the anonymous editor/IP address that provided it... Sergecross73 msg me 01:00, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- Nah, I just saw this edit (and revert) by coincidence and remembered that I had first heard of this on Kotaku. Glad I could help! 95.157.57.49 (talk) 02:36, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- No worries, there’s a lot to know about editing Wikipedia. I’m glad there was a source found too, though I had kind of thought you were the anonymous editor/IP address that provided it... Sergecross73 msg me 01:00, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply. I've been on Wikipedia for over a decade now, but I still have lots to learn! Also glad to see that someone else found a solution. By the way, I didn't want to "count votes or signatures" per se, I only mentioned the 10000 subscribers milestone because that's the final one on the Lego Ideas website, leaving the verdict entirely in Lego's hands at that point. That's why I (later) suggested that it would have been a proper timing for a mention on Wikipedia according to the NPOV criteria (e.g. "the idea was pitched on the Lego Ideas portal, and it reached the required 10000 subscribers in N days", with a future addendum like "the set was ultimately approved for production and hit the shelves on DAY" or "however, the set wasn't greenlit by Lego"). This was just an idea, though. As I said, I'm glad that someone more expert than me found a better way to handle it. Best regards.
- Yes, it would. I won’t oppose a mention of this with the Kotaku source. Sergecross73 msg me 22:55, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- Would this Kotaku article be a valid source? 95.157.57.49 (talk) 22:40, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Xzibit's Album "Man vs. Machine" is Not a Concept Album
man vs. machine is not a concept album you don't need to restore the source entry that i removed. his album that i put on the list of concept albums was an accident it doesn't make any sense about the narrative of the album please don't restore it... just remove it.Johnny758 (talk) 14:12, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- We need to go by what sources say, and the source given was pretty clear about it. Sergecross73 msg me 14:23, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
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Page protection for Knack II
Hi, you may remember me from bringing this to your attention a month ago concerning the matter of page protection implementation for Knack II (see your archive page). To recap, following your protection of it, a subsequent instance of vandalism occurred after a few days and I'd asked to have protection restored. However, I was informed more vandalism would have to occur for it to be re-implemented and to let you know in due course. Since that time in the month past, there have been (by my count) 10 instances of further vandalism on Knack II. As such can you please confirm there has now been a sufficient amount of non-constructive edits to restore protection? Thanks. -- Wikibenboy94 (talk) 13:26, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Protected. Sergecross73 msg me 15:22, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks very much. -- Wikibenboy94 (talk) 09:30, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Svend Joscelyne
Hey Serge! This is just a little something I wanted to ask you about. I know we consider Sonic Stadium an unreliable source but I just did some digging and it turns out the site's founder and one of its most active writers, Svend Joscelyne (who goes by "Dredknux" on the site) is a professional journalist who has written for high-quality reliable sources, including IGN, PCMag, and Mashable. I just wanted to ask you if you'd consider his articles reliable (probably not, but was just interested)? JOEBRO64 22:54, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
- TheJoebro64 - sorry for the delay in responding, I meant to earlier, but got caught up. On one hand, that’s impressive, I wasn’t aware of those credentials - most of the writers on the Sonic fansites (or any fansites) don’t have anything in the way of actual writing credentials or professional writing experience. On the other hand, there are still some other things to consider. What order did things go in? Did he start at SS, and then later move on to places like IGN. If that’s the case, I’m not sure it’d retroactively make his older SS stuff usable, especially if SS doesn’t particularly have any other arguments in favor of its reliability. And it does seem like WP:VG is trying to move away from the “unreliable mostly unless it’s this one writer” approach.
- You could always run it by VG/S and see what people think. I think I’d probably still be leaning unreliable, but I don’t think it’s in a “well that’s a stupid question” territory either - there’s some merit in what you’re saying. Sergecross73 msg me 16:09, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Template:Nintendo franchises discussion
There is a discussion on Template talk:Nintendo franchises pertaining to what should be included in the template. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 20:35, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Correct procedure at RM/TR?
Hi Sergecross. Yesterday, I listed an article I made in my userspace at RM/TR that was rejected by the user Alex 21, who told me to "submit draft articles through AfC", as if I was unaware on how to do this if I wished to. I reverted his removal and told him that it was not a draft but a fully formed article that I made in my userspace and only wished to be moved over a redirect, and that if he did not wish to move it, to leave it for admins (like yourself and Anthony Appleyard) who will. I'm aware RM/TR says "If this is your first article and you want your draft article published" to go through AfC, but surely this doesn't apply to users who know and do not wish to go this route, and where the only thing standing in the way is a technical request like deleting a redirect? Is this user right, or is it more a case of "well, technically even experienced users shouldn't be listing these sorts of moves at RM/TR but some admins will make the move if requested there anyway"? I'm not the only user who lists these at RM/TR, but it appears Alex 21 sees himself as some kind of admin without actually being an admin by removing these requests whenever they're made. (For the record, I mostly only request it at RM/TR because admins like yourself who would perform the move aren't online and where it seems counterintuitive to wait hours.) Thanks. Ss112 20:40, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- I’m unfamiliar with their specific standards, but at the very least, it seems like a bad call by Alex in a general sense. I can do it for you if you tell me what it is. Sergecross73 msg me 23:18, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
- Oh dw it was already done yesterday by Anthony, but really only after I left a message at his talk as I don't believe he was online at the time. Ss112 00:04, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
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Sampling
Looks like the sampling dispute got archived. Is that normal? Do we care? Popcornduff (talk) 05:24, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- I’m not entirely sure. I don’t use DRN all that much. I usually poll WikiProjects or set up RFCs, though I don’t know if that’s the best route here either. I’m still against his additions, but I don’t have a ton of time at the moment to edit, and when I do, that’s not the most fun way to spend it either... Sergecross73 msg me 15:08, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
List of Sakura Wars characters
Hi. Can you please take a look at List of Sakura Wars characters? I've got a feeling that the article might need to have a complete reorganization, using the Characters of Final Fantasy XIII, Characters of Final Fantasy XII or Characters of Final Fantasy XV as a model. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:54, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- I agree, it needs a complete reorganization, and that the FF articles are generally a good reference point. Despite my love of JRPGs, I’ve played very little of the series personally. I think ProtoDrake was working on the series in general relatively recently. Sergecross73 msg me 02:16, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
- Got it. Also, I'll go ask around and see what can be done. The WikiProject discussion is here if you're interested. Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:28, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
List of music considered the worst
After looking through your edits, I can tell you’re sick of people telling you on how to run this list, and how “it’s not encyclopedic”, and “this should be renamed to ‘list of music with negative reception’ etc. I am fine with the list’s existence and its title. My sole issue is that somebody decided to enter Sgt. Pepper’s, an album usually held as being one of the greatest albums of all time, and for no other reason than it’s properly sourced, you have been actively preventing anyone from removing that entry. It’s infuriating that you are forcing everyone to go through this bureaucratic red-tape loop for something that should have been deleted as soon as it was added. Just... why? Why are you being so obtuse on trying to keep the Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band on this list? Do you really not see the contradiction with having Sgt. Pepper’s on this list, while the article for the album itself has three sections on its critical praise? 2600:8800:5A80:1394:78FF:1C1D:ACE1:877A (talk) 03:27, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- Your talking points sound curiously similar to someone who was just blocked from editing... Sergecross73 msg me 03:37, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- Wow. Way to ignore my points completely. 2600:8800:5A80:1394:78FF:1C1D:ACE1:877A (talk) 04:04, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- And the IP address geolocates to Peoria, Arizona, which is possibly where the same blocked user is from. Maybe we should open an WP:SPI? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:49, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- Rut Roh -- Scoopy Doo. --David Tornheim (talk) 03:52, 21 April 2019 (UTC) [P.S. I was looking for the best video of Scoopy Doo saying that, but the main one is filled with advertising. Can't do it. this is cute though!]
- Clear block evasion, blocked to match the account for now. -- ferret (talk) 13:24, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- Real cute. Rjrya395 (talk) 19:51, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- Reblocked 1 week for continuing edit war. -- ferret (talk) 20:14, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- Real cute. Rjrya395 (talk) 19:51, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- Clear block evasion, blocked to match the account for now. -- ferret (talk) 13:24, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- Rut Roh -- Scoopy Doo. --David Tornheim (talk) 03:52, 21 April 2019 (UTC) [P.S. I was looking for the best video of Scoopy Doo saying that, but the main one is filled with advertising. Can't do it. this is cute though!]
Nu metalcore
I was too scared to do it. I created that page as a redirect to a section in nu metal, and someone fleshed it out to my nervousness. And then a few more sources used it. I am probably responsible for it growing into as big a thing it is - even if it may pale by comparison to others. Thanks for taking the bigger step. dannymusiceditor oops 16:37, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah, honestly, I was hesitant too. Not in my rationale, but in the fear it’d erupt into endless arguments with genre warriors and metal-heads, in a time where my editing time has been more limited. But, knock on wood, all the response I’ve gotten is support from you, and a “thanks” from another experienced editor, Fezmar9. Sergecross73 msg me 16:59, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
I need to take a break
Can someone block me until May 20? Everything is fine and I fully intend to return. I'm just addicted to this site and need to take some time away to evaluate life priorities. Thanks. TarkusABtalk 19:42, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- I can do it. I wish you well - I hope you are able to work through whatever you need to. Sergecross73 msg me 19:44, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Sakura Wars sources for music and gameplay
So, I've been thinking about trying to take the Sakura Wars main series article up to FA status and creating a potential "Music of..." articles for the game's music (i.e. discography, creation, track listings, etc.). I'm trying to find some good sources around here (i.e. Oricon, RPGFan) for information on the CDs and legacy. Regarding the Gameplay section, I consulted with ProtoDrake about the possibility of using the instruction manual pages (in Japanese, of course) just like in the Sonic the Hedgehog game articles. Given my expertise and my involvement in the Sega task force, do you know if some of its members that are familiar with Sakura Wars can help out? Thanks. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:32, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- It seems like most of the Sega people I know are more about Sonic or Sega Hardware, outside of ProtoDrake, who you’re akready aware of. I’m afraid I won’t be helpful either, between a lack of Wikipedia time or knowledge on the series, but I wish you the best on the project. I can try to proofread it down the line if I’m doing better with time at that point. Sergecross73 msg me 22:24, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
- That's understandable. Thanks for your input. By the way, I once considered a possible wikiproject for the series itself, but it did not work out. Do you think forming a Sakura Wars task force with ProtoDrake is enough? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:34, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
- It’s up to you, but it seems like most task forces don’t last very long, due to lack of activity. It might be more efficient to just work with ProtoDrake on the talk page(s) and just occasionally poll WPVG for help, input, etc. Sergecross73 msg me 19:51, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- That's understandable. Thanks for your input. By the way, I once considered a possible wikiproject for the series itself, but it did not work out. Do you think forming a Sakura Wars task force with ProtoDrake is enough? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:34, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
Discussion at Talk:Project Sakura Wars#Sonic Team
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Project Sakura Wars#Sonic Team. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 19:09, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, I’ve commented. I’ll add it to my watch list too. Sergecross73 msg me 15:05, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
Renaming without consensus
The worst music article has been renamed, without discussion, in the midst of a heated debate over the inclusion of Sgt. Pepper. The removal of the word "considered" seems like a possible attempt to undermine arguments that yourself and SummerPhD presented for Pepper to remain in the list. If Wikipedia is now pushing the article as a somehow objective account of the worst popular music, rather than a list of music that has been called the worst, then Beetles followers have impunity when it comes to gutting their band from the article (i.e. "This outfit is hailed by fans and critics alike, there's no way any of their records stand among the definitive worst in history"). Cheers. Micky Moats (talk) 23:36, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up. I’ve moved it back, mentioning there should be a consensus for such moves. Sergecross73 msg me 00:01, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
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Vandalism pt 21
Serge's 21st iteration of his own personal WP:AIV and WP:RFPP. Feel free to report anything you see may need intervention. Ferret may also answer queries, as we're both generally pretty active and on the same page when it comes to policy. Sergecross73 msg me 15:53, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- Would you mind protecting Venom (2018 film)? A bunch of IPs keep trying to soften the wording of "It received generally negative reviews from critics", even though it's well sourced and the wording is based on what's in the reception section. JOEBRO64 14:11, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
- Alex Smith needs shortform page protection (day or so) because it's been getting a lot of bad edits due to him being in the news for suffering a broken leg during a game today. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:50, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- Update: another admin protected it. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:29, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, sorry, I checked yesterday and saw someone had already beat me to it. Let me know if it needs extension after it expires though. Sergecross73 msg me 23:46, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- Update: another admin protected it. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:29, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
- This IP address, 61.91.222.66, has been vandalizing several Namco and SNK articles recently, usually adding that Bandai Namco published SNK games despite having zero sourcing to back his claims. Namcokid47 (talk) 03:11, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- User Subinsebastien (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has been vandalizing the Stephen Hillenburg article with an inappropriate picture after receiving an only warning. Can you please look into this? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:52, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Update: another admin, MusikAnimal (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) already took care of it. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:54, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Usually I feel bad when I didn’t help in tune, but since there was only like 2 minutes between your comments, I don’t feel so bad - I never really had a chance. Let me know if the issues arise again. Sergecross73 msg me 23:39, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
- Update: another admin, MusikAnimal (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) already took care of it. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:54, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Tatum-Tatum (talk · contribs) keeps removing sourced information from The Death of Superman for no reasons other than it's "biased" and "unrelated" even though I've tried to discuss why I think it's useful to include. They've edited while logged out under the IP 186.26.127.176 (talk · contribs). JOEBRO64 22:58, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
- Another admin fully protected the article just after you notified me, and while the guy broke 3RR, he wasn’t warned until after the fourth warning, so I can’t really justify blocking. All I could do is warn him that he’s be blocked next time. Hopefully the protection forces him to discussion. Let me know if it doesn’t. Sergecross73 msg me 23:39, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
- They're at it again, this time deliberately editing against sources present in the article and official DC material (they are discussing but also did violate 3RR by reverting again after starting a discussion). JOEBRO64 20:54, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- Blocked. (Almost blocked him earlier in the week but too much time had passed since he had been reverting repeatedly on the 3rd or 4th of the month. Sergecross73 msg me 21:13, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, guys. Tatum-Tatum (talk) 02:00, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- It's OK—this stuff blows over. JOEBRO64 02:14, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- Dont worry about it. There’s a lot to learn when you first start editing Wikipedia. I have no problem working with people as long as they’re willing to learn how to handle things. Sergecross73 msg me 23:29, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, guys. Tatum-Tatum (talk) 02:00, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- Blocked. (Almost blocked him earlier in the week but too much time had passed since he had been reverting repeatedly on the 3rd or 4th of the month. Sergecross73 msg me 21:13, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- They're at it again, this time deliberately editing against sources present in the article and official DC material (they are discussing but also did violate 3RR by reverting again after starting a discussion). JOEBRO64 20:54, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
- Another admin fully protected the article just after you notified me, and while the guy broke 3RR, he wasn’t warned until after the fourth warning, so I can’t really justify blocking. All I could do is warn him that he’s be blocked next time. Hopefully the protection forces him to discussion. Let me know if it doesn’t. Sergecross73 msg me 23:39, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
- Tripple-ddd socks: Mr.8fjhf (talk · contribs) and 91.141.0.144 (talk · contribs). --The1337gamer (talk) 17:54, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
- Account blocked, IP only made one edit so I held off, and it has since gone stale. Sergecross73 msg me 17:48, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- Would you (or Ferret) mind taking a look at TheSpiderKid? There's something that seems a bit... off about them, I think they might be a sock of a blocked user. JOEBRO64 15:37, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- I looked into it a bit. I agree that their editing is not great - a number of poor calls and forced additions to poorly maintained lists - but it’s not ringing any bells for block evasion or anything. I could be wrong, and I’m open to alternate theories, but I believe it’s probably just a young, inexperienced writer. Sergecross73 msg me 17:48, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
- I ended up blocking him for 31 hours to get his attention, at TarkusAB's prompting. -- ferret (talk) 14:42, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- We might have a dynamic IP hopper here: 2601:246:c302:2f0:7413:fbbd:5eff:81a (talk · contribs), 2601:246:C302:2F0:A816:2DFC:93E5:BFE5 (talk · contribs), 2601:246:c302:2f0:c908:fe57:2f59:c91e (talk · contribs). The IPs all geolocate to Gurnee, Illinois. Can you look into this? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 08:48, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Sjones23: It's normal for IPv6 addresses to rotate like this. In and of it's not an issue, the user has no control over it. However, the /64 range this user owns has previously been blocked so I've blocked it again for the obvious disruptive editing and bad faith reverting of you (Goes back further than what you linked as well). -- ferret (talk) 14:42, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- Bruce Allen (American football) needs protection. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 18:48, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done and IP blocked. -- ferret (talk) 18:54, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- Ferret beat me by seconds! Sergecross73 msg me 18:55, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- 61.91.222.66 (talk · contribs) continues to add false information crediting different games to SNK or Namco Bandai. Their IP changes periodically but this IP seems to come up a few times. TarkusABtalk 03:50, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- Blocked. Keep em coming. Sergecross73 msg me 03:55, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- I don't know how range blocking works or if anything else can be done. They keep coming back under different IPs like 61.90.27.13 (talk · contribs) or 61.90.31.197 (talk · contribs). TarkusABtalk 12:58, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- Ferret may be able to tell you if a range block is feasible, but I’m still not good with them, so I just usually just revert and block over and over again, protecting articles that seem to be repeatedly targeted. I have a near infinite tolerance for doing this, so for as long as you report them, I’ll revert and block them. Sergecross73 msg me 13:24, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- Currently looks at a glance too wide, but will have to dig later. -- ferret (talk) 13:39, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- 1.46.173.2 (talk · contribs) same thing TarkusABtalk 00:30, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- We might need protection on Nintendo Network. Users are going back and forth between adding material to promote Miiverse clones and then removing it. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 21:13, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done. I don’t follow that one, so let me know if it’s still an issue after it expires. (I’m guessing that these issues will likely persist indefinitely, but I can’t jump to that right away, especially since it’s the first time it’s been protected.) Sergecross73 msg me 02:22, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- Not vandalism, but a comment/edit was made by 101.2.166.4 (talk · contribs), who has not made an edit since December 2017, on an ongoing discussion about gaining consensus about removing/keeping sales figures in the List of Square Enix video game franchises page. Possibly sockpuppetry/canvasing from Misconceptions2 (talk · contribs), as I don't think it's very likely some random IP user finds the discussion and also happens to agree with him out of the blue when nobody else had commented for months. Investigation and/or commenting on the discussion is welcome. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 05:13, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Ive protected the page, and offered to close the discussion down the line too, because, as you say, it is suspicious when an inactive IP jumps into a conversation out of nowhere when the discussion hasn’t been advertised anywhere. Sergecross73 msg me 16:03, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Would you mind deleting this edit summary from list of video games notable for negative reception? JOEBRO64 20:48, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- Done -- ferret (talk) 23:20, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
- Just stumbled upon this two-week long edit war (yikes) at Batman: Knightfall. Would you mind putting full protection on the page until the issue is resolved? JOEBRO64 22:20, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yikes is right, especially with Tatum, who has been blocked for edit warring before. Blocked both editors, and protected the page so they discuss once they come back. Sergecross73 msg me 23:01, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
- Can you do something about MPedits? They're still trying to make the same change on Sonic Unleashed and I feel uncomfortable reverting it because I don't want to be edit warring. JOEBRO64 01:29, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
- I already blocked him as soon as I noticed he faked ”blocked” you. Sergecross73 msg me 02:03, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
Move requests pt 2
If you'd like me to move an article for you that requires deletion of sorts, feel free to request here. Sergecross73 msg me 15:55, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
- DK King of Swing → DK: King of Swing. The article says the colon's not there because of technical restrictions, even colons can be used in titles just fine. I'm assuming this is because it was created at a time when they couldn't? JOEBRO64 21:26, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
- TheJoebro64 - Sorry for the delay on this. I was busy when you initially posed it and forgot about it until later in the day today. Then I had to do some research. Initially, my reaction was the same as yours, but actually, a comment in the page history alerted me to the fact that I believe the note is true actually. I dont think an article can be at its true name due to technical issues. Apparently starting with “DK:” links to project space in the Danish Wikipedia. It’s kind of like how, if Nintendo published a game called “WP: Mario Bros”, we couldn’t name it that, because WP links to non-article Wikipedia-space like WP:RS, WP:AFD, etc etc. Does that make sense? Sergecross73 msg me 00:36, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- Ahh... I see now. Thanks for clearing it up. JOEBRO64 01:10, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
- User:Flooded with them hundreds/A Legendary Christmas → A Legendary Christmas. Flooded with them hundreds 09:34, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- Lad, can you do this request please? Flooded with them hundreds 14:40, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- Hey, come on, do you really think I need prodding after 5 hours, on a day where, at the time, had only made 2 edits? I clearly havent been around much today. If I’m not fast enough for you, feel free to take it to RM or find another Admin. Sergecross73 msg me 18:23, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- Sometimes bad-faith editors might want to overcome deletion by creating their own version there and that would make my version unmovable, which is why this should be done quickly and I see you've moved it so thanks and cheers. Flooded with them hundreds 04:37, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
- Hey, come on, do you really think I need prodding after 5 hours, on a day where, at the time, had only made 2 edits? I clearly havent been around much today. If I’m not fast enough for you, feel free to take it to RM or find another Admin. Sergecross73 msg me 18:23, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
- Hello, Serge~! I found a really minor error in an article title, but I can't do the move myself because of a redirect with history. It's Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled, which should be moved to Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled, with a hyphen. I'd really appreciate it if you could help me out with this ^_^ --Alexandra IDVtalk 14:31, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- No problem. Done! Sergecross73 msg me 14:46, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks! ✨--Alexandra IDVtalk 14:51, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Ace Combat 7 back to Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown, which I moved in haste but now see that WP:SUBTITLES allows for these sort of shorter titles. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:06, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done. And I get it, I’ve also wondered where to draw the line with this sort of thing. Sergecross73 msg me 01:03, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
Could you revert a move that someone made from Down Below (album) to Down Below (Tribulation album). It’s unnecessary I think. ~SML • TP 22:17, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Honestly, it might be okay to just be at Down Below itself, as nothing listed at the current page has its own article outside of your article. Sergecross73 msg me 22:28, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Nevermind. The guy actually made another article called Down Below. ~SML • TP 00:29, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Wow, that album was released in the 1980s. What are the odds that it was created today, during this conversation? Are there discussions happening elsewhere I’m not aware of? Sergecross73 msg me 01:58, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Nevermind. The guy actually made another article called Down Below. ~SML • TP 00:29, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of one Harley Quinn) → Birds of Prey (2020 film); there was consensus on the talk page it should be at the latter but it's currently at the former location because of a redirect. JOEBRO64 19:28, 14 January 2019 (UTC)- Another admin got to it. JOEBRO64 22:57, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- Shouldn't Star Fox (1993 video game) be moved back to Star Fox (video game) per title guidelines? ~ Dissident93 (talk) 18:41, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- I was thinking the same but there is also Star Fox (Atari 2600). Disamb appears to be correct here. -- ferret (talk) 18:52, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hmmm. Yeah not sure what’s going on there. Looks like it was just moved per request, not an actual discussion with consensus. Looks like there is another game just called Star Fox at Star Fox (Atari 2600). Probably not right to use 2 different methods of disambiguation (year and platform) on the same name of Star Fox. Something definitely needs fixing, but it might be better to have a WP:VG discussion to hash it all out? Sergecross73 msg me 18:53, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hi @Sergecross73:, could you finish the move of SolarStriker to Solar Striker. Sorry if I am supposed to do that on my own. I put in a request that is shown on the talk page, but I'm not sure if I can do it all myself or if I need an admin to finalize it. Thanks. Bchill53 (talk) 23:23, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Sergecross73: Promptly done, thanks! :) Bchill53 (talk) 00:12, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- No problem. Taken care of. Thanks for pointing it out. The initial move to the wrong name was done by a troublesome editor who didn’t understand Wikipedia policy when it comes to naming articles. So I appreciate it. Sergecross73 msg me 00:14, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Sergecross73: Promptly done, thanks! :) Bchill53 (talk) 00:12, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hey Serge, could you move my sandbox to Only Want You (Rita Ora song)? I just did a few moves at RM/TR after listing my own request, but I don't feel it's appropriate to move my own created page to the desired namespace/move that page out of the way. Thanks. Ss112 01:15, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- No problem. Done. Side note - the article mentions having “Nirvana guitar” or something to that capacity. Is that meant literally, like a sample? Or just like it sounds similar stylistically? I have no idea, I’ve never heard this song, but thought it could be a point of discussion in the article either way. Sergecross73 msg me 02:42, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. And there's no sample, so I assume she just means it sounds similar stylistically. Also, would you be able to delete my sandbox so I can start afresh whenever? Ss112 02:47, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Sure. I don’t mind doing it whenever. If it ever looks like I’m not around, you can always G6 it, but I don’t mind, and there’s other admin who watch my talk page who would probably do it too. Sergecross73 msg me 02:59, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. And there's no sample, so I assume she just means it sounds similar stylistically. Also, would you be able to delete my sandbox so I can start afresh whenever? Ss112 02:47, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- No problem. Done. Side note - the article mentions having “Nirvana guitar” or something to that capacity. Is that meant literally, like a sample? Or just like it sounds similar stylistically? I have no idea, I’ve never heard this song, but thought it could be a point of discussion in the article either way. Sergecross73 msg me 02:42, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
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May 2019
Hello and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. I saw that an article you created, The Old Me has not been added to any categories. According to the guideline Wikipedia:Categorization, every article should be in at least one category. Please help by adding categories to the articles you create. You can take a look at the categorization FAQ. If you need further help, ask at the Teahouse. Thank you. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:04, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Talk about templating the regulars :P -- ferret (talk) 14:21, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- In the time you took to template me, you could have just added a category yourself. Or just done nothing, as categories are not that big of a deal. But thanks for the reminder. In my 10 years, 65000 edits, and 230+ articles created, certainly I needed an introductory paragraph on the existence of categories. Sergecross73 msg me 14:34, 5 May 2019 (UTC)