User talk:Sergecross73/Archive 36
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How about not removing reliable sources when they clearly identify what is posted?
Your actions are a personal affront to the credibility of Wikipedia. Did you even look at the edits you reverted on The End of All Things to Come? The genres added in your revert aren't in the sources at all. You obviously need to stop pushing your pathetic opinion and deal with the sources as identified not your personal bias.
- Genres are still wrong. Sources say heavy metal and progressive rock, not alternative metal/nu-metal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.86.186.171 (talk) 21:08, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- If you're referring to this edit, its because you changed the genre without changing the source, and the source present has zero hits for the term "prog rock" or "progressive rock" in it. Also, I'm 99% sure you're an editor who was just blocked from editing, because he had the same problem with adding sources that did not literally say "progressive rock" in them. Also the same sort of childish personal attacks. Sergecross73 msg me 21:23, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, it does say progressive rock. You are wrong. Also, source is used to cite "nu-metal" which is nowhere in that article, and the source for "alternative metal" actually says heavy metal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.86.186.171 (talk) 21:25, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- You are right about some of that, it seems there was another IP who was also genre warring, but nowhere in that source does it say progessive rock. Please give me the direct quote that you think says this. Sergecross73 msg me 21:28, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, it does say progressive rock. You are wrong. Also, source is used to cite "nu-metal" which is nowhere in that article, and the source for "alternative metal" actually says heavy metal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.86.186.171 (talk) 21:25, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- If you're referring to this edit, its because you changed the genre without changing the source, and the source present has zero hits for the term "prog rock" or "progressive rock" in it. Also, I'm 99% sure you're an editor who was just blocked from editing, because he had the same problem with adding sources that did not literally say "progressive rock" in them. Also the same sort of childish personal attacks. Sergecross73 msg me 21:23, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
"the band flatten their prog-rock pretensions with a vicious stampede."
"it makes sense that The End of All Things To Come was produced by David Bottrill, whose work with Tool and King Crimson has made him prog-metal’s most sought-after studio guy." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.86.186.171 (talk) 21:32, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- What does it mean to "flatten prog-rock pretensions" though? Is that even saying their prog rock? Or is it saying it's not prog rock because their stampede flattens it (whatever that means)? "Flattens" is not usually an affirmative comment. Also, your second quote only says that Bottrill is sought after by prog-metal bands. That doesn't support prog rock in any capacity. Sergecross73 msg me 21:36, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- Regardless, I've restored it to the the last version before anyone started tinkering with it. I think the Phoenix source is extremely weak argument, but it is what the last stable version used, so I'll leave it for now. I'd find a better source if you want it to stick though, I feel like editors are going to challenge that in the future. Sergecross73 msg me 21:38, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
Animal Crossing HHD
Hello serge, I want to discuss about the game type of AC:HHD. You changed it as a life simulation game and I did not understand why because the wikipedia page for sandbox says a game about building and by the way the actual AC:HHD page says that it is a sandbox game. So can you tell me why you did it as a life simulation game? Thanks for answering. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.178.201.122 (talk) 19:39, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- I was under the impression that Animal Crossing games were usually considered more as life simulation games. I thought sandbox games were usually more like open world, Grand Theft Auto type games. If I'm wrong, and reliable sources tend to call it otherwise, then by all means, you can change it back, I don't feel that strongly about it... Sergecross73 msg me 19:53, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks for explaining it to me. Now I think it is a life simulation game too — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.178.201.122 (talk) 19:57, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- It looks like a number of the other titles, like Animal Crossing Wild World, are also referred to as "social simulation games" too. So that's another possibility too. Sergecross73 msg me 20:00, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Oh wow I apparently didn't log in to my account. This is my real account just to remind you. Have a nice day!:) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yamaç42 (talk • contribs) 20:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, good to know. It seems we both monitor the list of best-selling 3ds games article, so I'm sure I'll see you around. Sergecross73 msg me 20:07, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
I pinged you, but you haven't responded yet. Care to explain? --George Ho (talk) 08:49, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Just hadn't gotten over there yet. Had a (admittedly rare) time where I was mostly off-wiki, and wanted to look into things a bit since I don't know a ton about Heroes. I will comment soon. Sergecross73 msg me 12:15, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Rebel Miller
Hi Serge,
I just noticed that the Rebel Miller page had been deleted, citing A7. Can you clarify what the problem was with the page so I can correct it? It seems to be suggesting that the author is not significant or important enough to have a page. I hope that's not the correct interpretation. Or does it mean there should be more reference to the works?
Thanks for your reply in advance! 20:24, 22 September 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by WorldView2015 (talk • contribs)
- Hi there. I can give a more detailed explaination tomorrow, but the short version is that the article didn't adhere to the WP:GNG - Wikipedia's standard for having an article. You didn't use any sources when writing the article, which is especially a problem when writing about a living person. Sergecross73 msg me 02:05, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Quick userspace/draftspace move question
So back when I first started fiddling with WP, I tried an AfC submission for a piece of chiptune software I'm familiar with, and worked on it in User:BlusterBlaster/sandbox/FamiTracker (draft) - a big gross mess of unnecessary sub-subpaging and parenthesis because I was a n00b who still didn't get how creating pages and userspace hierarchy worked. It got moved to Draft:FamiTracker (draft) when it was being evaluated, but I just want to nudge it back into userspace under something like User:Dracolych/FamiTracker (which aligns with the rest of my drafts) to incubate until more sources appear, because I know draftspace articles that don't get accepted are deleted after a certain amount of time. Could I do this myself without issue, or would that require an admin to delete the draftspace page or something? I just don't want to muck it up and make more work for other people to clean up after. ᴅʀᴀᴄᴏʟyᴄʜ - ✉✎ 12:32, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
- I think you can do this yourself. If someone tells you otherwise, I suppose listen to them though. I actually haven't really used the draft space much until recently, with getting into working on speedy deletions, and making an article or two that I started in draft space because I was unsure if/how long it would take to get it into workable form. Anyways, I say, go for it, and if you find that you can't or start to muck things up, I'll try to help out with it. Sergecross73 msg me 12:44, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
- Seems to have worked okay, thank goodness. There's a redirect left over at Draft:FamiTracker (draft), which I suppose can be tidied up with a G6-- I don't think G13 applies if I've already moved the actual draft out of there. Should I tag it for a speedy G6 or are you able to do it without one? ᴅʀᴀᴄᴏʟyᴄʜ - ✉✎ 12:59, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
- Taken care of! Sergecross73 msg me 13:09, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
- Seems to have worked okay, thank goodness. There's a redirect left over at Draft:FamiTracker (draft), which I suppose can be tidied up with a G6-- I don't think G13 applies if I've already moved the actual draft out of there. Should I tag it for a speedy G6 or are you able to do it without one? ᴅʀᴀᴄᴏʟyᴄʜ - ✉✎ 12:59, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Let"s compromise
I believe that the title of the article is of rise against should be rise against is an Chicago punk rock band if you change it to that i will put in rise against is a melodic hardcore band in my simple English Wikipedia.Jg9443 (talk) 20:49, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Serge just wanted to note that this stuff has started up on Killswitch Engage too... I left a note on Jg9443's talk, but..... -- ferret (talk) 21:15, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Ferret - Thanks for the heads up. I've blocked him for a month for now. Beyond the genre warring, I have serious WP:COMPETENCE concerns about him. I mean, I think you've witnessed it - he can't even seem to handle even the most basic of discussions. Outside of the time he asked me how to add sources once, he doesn't even seem to see the words I write to him... Sergecross73 msg me 02:27, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Slight problem/question with a user
User @ClassicOnAStick: has edited many Nintendo EAD games to list full title. I.E., instead of Nintendo EAD Group No. 4, he has them now listed as Nintendo Entertainment Analysis & Development Group No. 4. While it's not incorrect or anything, I had thought that consensus had it as EAD for simplicity's sake, so I'm wondering if that's worth reverting, and if so, I could use your help as he's done this for way too many articles to manually fix. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 04:09, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
- Dissident93 - Sorry for the delay, its been a busy 24 or so hours, as will the next 24 or so. Anyways, I don't doubt you, but don't recall if there was a consensus on this or not - I just don't remember. If you can dig up a discussion with a consensus saying the other editor is wrong, then notify them, and let me know too, and we can work on reverting/rolling back. If there isn't any past discussion, then, well, you can still technically revert them per WP:BRD, but then you may want to be more proactive in starting a discussion to figure out things for the future. Sergecross73 msg me 02:18, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
- No problem, just had to ask if it was clearly violating some standard that was set before. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 02:59, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Cass/Ion
Welp, you got me there. I was thinking more along the lines of how they appear, but I guess you're right about that.
Honestly, even with hundred/thousand year old characters, I can't think of them as adults, it feels strange. Like a certain 500 year old vampire which comes to mind—I feel like an idiot if I refer to them as adult women, for some reason. Japanese videogames have ruined my brain. --benlisquareT•C•E 14:04, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- benlisquare - Haha, sorry, honestly, if you had reverted me and said "but they look like girls", then I probably would have dropped it too - I only said something because of your edit summary, and because it was fresh in my mind because I had just beaten the game recently. And I completely get where you're coming from, I've started ignoring ages altogether in a lot of video games because I feel like there's such a disconnect between their age and how they act. So many of those games say that these characters are like 14-17, but I find these "heroes saving the world" types to be pretty inconsistent with how most 15 years olds would handle things. (Worst offender - I believe Toon Link is supposed to be like 10...) I suppose its not too much different than how American high school dramas have actors in their 20/30s playing high school students though too... Sergecross73 msg me 14:16, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) This conversation reminds me of an image comparison that I'm sure came from 4chan, about how the purple-haired girl from Lucky Star is supposed to be 17, and the redhead from Gurren Lagann is supposed to be 14... oh, Japan. ᴅʀᴀᴄᴏʟyᴄʜ - ✉✎ 14:44, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- Toon Link is 12 (canonically). ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 14:53, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- Oops, I had been going off of this, but perhaps that's just where he's at when the whole saga starts? Or maybe that was wrongfully tinkered with? That's one of the things I learned while maintaining the List of Sonic characters article - people love to do drive-by edits to age without explanation. As if it matters if Sonic is 15 or 16. Sergecross73 msg me 15:14, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- How much is 15 human years in hedgehog years? ;) Anyhow, for Toon Link the age in the article is unsourced/OR/wrong or whatever, but the Toon Link trophy description in SSBB says: "
His green clothes were worn on his 12th birthday and are the lucky outfit of the hero of legend.
", and trophy descriptions have historically always been 100% canon (and often revealing unique trivia not mentioned elsewhere). ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 15:35, 30 September 2015 (UTC)- Hahaha, yes, that's exactly why I eventually just removed all the ages out of the List of Sonic characters article. Age has absolutely no bearings on anthromophic animals in a fantasy world. As for Link, it seems his age was mentioned in Wind Waker as well, though its been forever since I played it, and I imagine we're both correct - that its 12, and the age is probably a result of wrongful tinkering... Sergecross73 msg me 15:59, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- How much is 15 human years in hedgehog years? ;) Anyhow, for Toon Link the age in the article is unsourced/OR/wrong or whatever, but the Toon Link trophy description in SSBB says: "
- Oops, I had been going off of this, but perhaps that's just where he's at when the whole saga starts? Or maybe that was wrongfully tinkered with? That's one of the things I learned while maintaining the List of Sonic characters article - people love to do drive-by edits to age without explanation. As if it matters if Sonic is 15 or 16. Sergecross73 msg me 15:14, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- Toon Link is 12 (canonically). ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 14:53, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) This conversation reminds me of an image comparison that I'm sure came from 4chan, about how the purple-haired girl from Lucky Star is supposed to be 17, and the redhead from Gurren Lagann is supposed to be 14... oh, Japan. ᴅʀᴀᴄᴏʟyᴄʜ - ✉✎ 14:44, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- Speaking of 500-year old vampires. --Izno (talk) 15:58, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
- Oh wow, looks like this kind of stuff is more common in Japanese stuff than I thought. I do admit though, I'm only really aware of the video game side, I've never gotten into anime or manga really. I don't object, I just stay busy enough with video games, which I do prefer due to the interactivity... Sergecross73 msg me 16:02, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
Page protection requests
Could you try and add page protection to Hideo Kojima's article? It's been nothing but constant vandalism by IPs recently, thanks. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 18:14, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- Ah, yes, I know there's s lot going on nowadays with him, Konami, and MGS5. Protected. Sergecross73 msg me 18:19, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- Didn't want to make a new post (or should I?), but Brock Osweiler's article keeps having IPs changing his height from 6'8 to 6'7, even though both NFL.com and Broncos.com list him as 6'8. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 21:35, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Whatever's fine. Page protected. I noticed the infobox still says 6 foot 7. I don't know if the IP was trying to be consistent with that instead, or if it's just something that needs to be switched. Just an FYI. Sergecross73 msg me 02:38, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- It should be 6'8, thanks, must have missed it somehow. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 04:36, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Whatever's fine. Page protected. I noticed the infobox still says 6 foot 7. I don't know if the IP was trying to be consistent with that instead, or if it's just something that needs to be switched. Just an FYI. Sergecross73 msg me 02:38, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- Didn't want to make a new post (or should I?), but Brock Osweiler's article keeps having IPs changing his height from 6'8 to 6'7, even though both NFL.com and Broncos.com list him as 6'8. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 21:35, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry to bother you again, but the Atlus article needs protection from an anonymous user (Triple-ddd?) who keeps removing sourced info about the parent in the infobox. (he's done this before in the past, if you check his history) The referenced page clearly lists Atlus and Sega Holdings separately. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 05:23, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, I wasn't sure before but I'm way suspicious of this IP, now that I've looked more closely. He's definitely used it to remove the mobile game statement from Sega way back in April before he even had a block log, here; that's usually a dead ringer. ᴅʀᴀᴄᴏʟyᴄʜ - ✉✎ 11:43, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- Article protected, IP blocked, as it's probably ddd, and even if its not, its still an IP that goes around removing sourced info... Sergecross73 msg me 12:39, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, I wasn't sure before but I'm way suspicious of this IP, now that I've looked more closely. He's definitely used it to remove the mobile game statement from Sega way back in April before he even had a block log, here; that's usually a dead ringer. ᴅʀᴀᴄᴏʟyᴄʜ - ✉✎ 11:43, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
- Template:Mario role-playing games has had an anonymous user claiming Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam is also in the Paper Mario series. Nintendo themselves only considers the Paper Mario cameo as exactly that, and doesn't think of the game as a full crossover. Even if they are, it seems redudant to list the same game twice above/below itself, so what do you think? ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:19, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Mario & Sonic at the Rio 2016 Olympic Games
Whilst I appriciate that you've protected the page for this upcoming game, can you please also protect the talk page, since the IP vandal keeps spamming that too. 85.210.183.55 (talk) 13:10, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think I can, I'm pretty sure I'm not really supposed to protect talk pages. I've put it on my watchlist though, and will start helping the the maintenance of the article and its talk page at least. Sergecross73 msg me 13:22, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Help with move
I'm an idiot. I tried to move Project Snowblind to Project: Snowblind, but ended up ending in Wikipedia namespace. I tried to undo it, but now it's in Wikipedia:Project Snowblind. Little help? :( --Soetermans. T / C 12:15, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- Done, but on mobile, so please make sure everything is okay now. :) ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 14:31, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- Soetermans - Sorry, didn't have a ton of access this weekend. Did Salv take care of this how you wanted him to? Sergecross73 msg me 12:43, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hey guys! @Salvidrim!: fixed my mistake, thanks. For some reason, I thought that Project: Snowblind would be the same with lowercase title technical restrictions from back in the day (like iPod and such). --Soetermans. T / C 12:47, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- That's because
Project:
is an WP:ALIAS forWikipedia:
(hence it being called "project-space"), just likeWP:
as a matter of fact. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 14:14, 5 October 2015 (UTC)- Interesting. Did not know that one. I guess I learned something out of this as well. Sergecross73 msg me 15:09, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- That's because
- Hey guys! @Salvidrim!: fixed my mistake, thanks. For some reason, I thought that Project: Snowblind would be the same with lowercase title technical restrictions from back in the day (like iPod and such). --Soetermans. T / C 12:47, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- Soetermans - Sorry, didn't have a ton of access this weekend. Did Salv take care of this how you wanted him to? Sergecross73 msg me 12:43, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Another sock?
Looking at the edit here and his other edits I think that Nettodama is another sock op Tripple-ddd. What do you think? The Banner talk 21:16, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- Hmm, you're the 2nd editor to point this out to me. I think it's likely, but not enough for me to comfortably indef block him yet, so I wanted to keep observing... Sergecross73 msg me 21:22, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- I may as well chip in and say that I think it is him as well. Been watching his edits since account was created. He still uses the same incorrect syntax (
[[title|''title'']]
) when wikilinking and italicising game titles in prose ([1]) as he did before he was blocked initially ([2], [3]). --The1337gamer (talk) 21:31, 18 August 2015 (UTC)- In fact, quite from the beginning I was more or less (mostly less) following the edits of Tripple-ddd. Reason of that is Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/NYCSlover, a user with many sockpuppets and an interest in games (List of Sega Saturn games, List of Nintendo GameCube games, List of PlayStation 2 games). I still have an eerie feeling but not proof to hammer it down nor to deny it. The Banner talk 22:00, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- As you know Banner, you and I have dealt with many NYCSlover socks in the past, and at first I thought this might be another, but now I'm fairly convinced it isn't at all. I had kept your report on my user talk for months and looked at him regularly but recently archived it after coming to the conclusion it was very unlikely to be the same person. The commons interest in the VG lists is suspicious but far from implausible (they are quite "central" topics after all), and the behaviour (especially when it comes to interactions) just doesn't match up IMHO. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 22:10, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- Eerie feelings are strange things... The Banner talk 10:13, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- As you know Banner, you and I have dealt with many NYCSlover socks in the past, and at first I thought this might be another, but now I'm fairly convinced it isn't at all. I had kept your report on my user talk for months and looked at him regularly but recently archived it after coming to the conclusion it was very unlikely to be the same person. The commons interest in the VG lists is suspicious but far from implausible (they are quite "central" topics after all), and the behaviour (especially when it comes to interactions) just doesn't match up IMHO. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 22:10, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- In fact, quite from the beginning I was more or less (mostly less) following the edits of Tripple-ddd. Reason of that is Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/NYCSlover, a user with many sockpuppets and an interest in games (List of Sega Saturn games, List of Nintendo GameCube games, List of PlayStation 2 games). I still have an eerie feeling but not proof to hammer it down nor to deny it. The Banner talk 22:00, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
- I may as well chip in and say that I think it is him as well. Been watching his edits since account was created. He still uses the same incorrect syntax (
Keep an eye on Special:Contributions/69.108.64.195. All contribs are Sega-related, might not be a perfect match though. BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 10:58, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, I can see what you mean. On one hand, they're related to Sega. On the other hand, its not major restructuring of Sega company articles. Then again, just about all Sega company articles are protected at the moment, so that could be why... Sergecross73 msg me 17:10, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- FYI, I ended up blocking that Nettodama user in the end, and his unblock requests provide even more evidence that he was a sock of Tripple ddd. Sergecross73 msg me 15:07, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Check Overall-ness' contribs. Very quacky based on the VisualEditor use and focus on Sega Sammy. BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 12:16, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Was thinking just the same. He un-italicised all the video game titles on List of Sega mobile games which I recall him doing multiple times on List of Sega arcade video games as User:Mr.Kikuchi. --The1337gamer (talk) 12:19, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, another likely one to keep an eye on. Protected the list of mobile page for now at least. Let me know of any other suspicious actions from this one. Sergecross73 msg me 16:13, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Do you think Sega Sammy Holdings should be protected as well? Notsomuch because of Overall-ness' editing pattern at this point, but just by virtue of it being one of Tripple's pet subjects in general and a very likely target if more socks are to show up (provided they haven't already). It's probably not a very highly-visited article, but still. BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 16:18, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, another likely one to keep an eye on. Protected the list of mobile page for now at least. Let me know of any other suspicious actions from this one. Sergecross73 msg me 16:13, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- It's 100% him, look at the articles he created (Quest of D) and the terrible spelling he never fixed. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 21:42, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'm still on the fence on this one, though I can't help but notice that he keeps making short, crappy articles with only 1-2 sources, another trademark of his... Sergecross73 msg me 10:49, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'll point out more evidence. On Toshihiro Nagoshi he re-added Hero Bank to the list of games ([4]), previously done on User:Nettodama ([5]). He removed the Daytona statement ([6]), previously done on User:Nettodama ([7]) and User:Mr.2994 ([8]). On ALL.Net he removed the same 3 sentences ([9]) as he did on User:Mr.Kikuchi ([10])--The1337gamer (talk) 10:59, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you, that's just enough to convince me now. Blocked. Sergecross73 msg me 14:30, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'll point out more evidence. On Toshihiro Nagoshi he re-added Hero Bank to the list of games ([4]), previously done on User:Nettodama ([5]). He removed the Daytona statement ([6]), previously done on User:Nettodama ([7]) and User:Mr.2994 ([8]). On ALL.Net he removed the same 3 sentences ([9]) as he did on User:Mr.Kikuchi ([10])--The1337gamer (talk) 10:59, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'm still on the fence on this one, though I can't help but notice that he keeps making short, crappy articles with only 1-2 sources, another trademark of his... Sergecross73 msg me 10:49, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
Do you have email enabled by any chance? I wanted to ask a couple of questions about this mess that might be a little beansy for open discussion. BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 14:42, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yup, I do. Sergecross73 msg me 15:07, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
- YGM now. Took me long enough. BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 18:36, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yup, I do. Sergecross73 msg me 15:07, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
A little early to say about Mixi7-- identical editing area (Sega arcade games and Virtua series, piping Sega AM2 and Joypolis within their first few edits), but they aren't quite as hamhanded at a glance... though with this edit, I'm leery... Might need more time, but not 100% convinced yet. (I hope it's not an annoyance that I snoop around every brand-new Sega editor's contribs, though this one piping AM2 and Joypolis have got me on edge...) BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 21:56, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, I can see what you mean, that's dif certainly shows some of the rough-looking prose on an obscure Sega article that Tripple ddd is known for. (Luckily someone cleaned it up right away.) I think its another one to definitely keep an eye on. (And I certainly don't find your efforts annoying, I appreciate your help.) Sergecross73 msg me 12:43, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- What do you think of this-- changing the list from being a console-by-console list to year-by-year all of a sudden? Isn't this something he was trying to do before? I can't remember. Dissident93, The1337gamer? BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 18:47, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- I don't recall him trying to do that exactly, but the fact he re-added United Game Artists makes me believe it's him, as I removed that from the article before and he had a problem with it. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 18:51, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- It's probably him. They use the same code (
[[title|''title'']]
) for italicising/wikilinking game titles in prose that Triple-ddd and his socks have used as I mentioned above for an earlier sock. ([11]) --The1337gamer (talk) 18:56, 27 August 2015 (UTC)- I can't help but notice that every single edit I've spot checked has been on an article that has been edited by tripple ddd or one of his socks in the past. These coincidences are adding up. Unless someone objects, I'm extremely close to blocking... Sergecross73 msg me 18:59, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- Sounds like a duck quacking into a megaphone to me. BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 19:35, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- Well, despite block evading, would my edits be considered as proof of constructive editing that is an argument for perhaps rethinking my permaban? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mixi7 (talk • contribs)
- No, definitely not. As you were told under your original account, getting caught block evading leads to lengthening of blocks, not reducing them. Please see WP:STANDARDOFFER, that's really your only hope for returning to editing. Sergecross73 msg me 20:04, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- I can't help but notice that every single edit I've spot checked has been on an article that has been edited by tripple ddd or one of his socks in the past. These coincidences are adding up. Unless someone objects, I'm extremely close to blocking... Sergecross73 msg me 18:59, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- What do you think of this-- changing the list from being a console-by-console list to year-by-year all of a sudden? Isn't this something he was trying to do before? I can't remember. Dissident93, The1337gamer? BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 18:47, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Think we might have another one. BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 09:19, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Definitely something to keep an eye on (you guys haven't been wrong yet, have you?) but that person is editing things beyond Sega related articles, which would be a first. But Tripple ddd is definitely still at it, since his talk page indicates that, after only a week of no socking, he felt that WP:STANDARDOFFER could be applied to him...so...he's still trying... Sergecross73 msg me 12:56, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Username brings to mind Mr.2994 and Mr.Kikuchi, and for all we know he could be trying to throw us off by varying the editing pattern a laughably tiny bit, but once it's given a day or so, it will become very clear if this one's a sock or not. I'll probably be ready to collect a pension by the time WP:STANDARDOFFER applies to him if he keeps this up-- it says the suggested wait time is six months, not six days for criminy's sake. BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 13:34, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Very true. Several of his past socks have referenced our dicussion here, which wouldn't be readily available to be seen by a newbie editor, so he does seem to follow these threads on my talk page. So he could be trying to throw us off, true. Sergecross73 msg me 13:39, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Oops, guess who went back to Sega again. I'm convinced. BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 14:41, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, it's him alright. As soon as he becomes autoconfirmed, he begins editing Sega. And he just removed ([12]) information about the pulling of mobile titles. Back on Tripple-ddd, this was contested and he kept removing and edit warring when there was no concensus. --The1337gamer (talk) 16:17, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yup, definitely him. Blocked. Thank you both. Sergecross73 msg me 17:19, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, it's him alright. As soon as he becomes autoconfirmed, he begins editing Sega. And he just removed ([12]) information about the pulling of mobile titles. Back on Tripple-ddd, this was contested and he kept removing and edit warring when there was no concensus. --The1337gamer (talk) 16:17, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- Oops, guess who went back to Sega again. I'm convinced. BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 14:41, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
- Very true. Several of his past socks have referenced our dicussion here, which wouldn't be readily available to be seen by a newbie editor, so he does seem to follow these threads on my talk page. So he could be trying to throw us off, true. Sergecross73 msg me 13:39, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
- Username brings to mind Mr.2994 and Mr.Kikuchi, and for all we know he could be trying to throw us off by varying the editing pattern a laughably tiny bit, but once it's given a day or so, it will become very clear if this one's a sock or not. I'll probably be ready to collect a pension by the time WP:STANDARDOFFER applies to him if he keeps this up-- it says the suggested wait time is six months, not six days for criminy's sake. BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 13:34, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
I whipped up a little userpage to help document socks and worked through him and his socks' contrib lists to lay out "his" articles. I'm sure there's a slew of Sega developer BLPs I've missed, so feel free to add whatever I didn't catch there. BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 14:08, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
- Awesome, thanks! I've got it watch-listed for if people report socks there as well, and will add to it as I think of them as well. Sergecross73 msg me 15:23, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
- Based on 91.114.131.118's edits, it's highly possible it's him again. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 08:48, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
Is there any point in reverting accurate info? Chasing sockpuppets instead of implementing accuracy is seemingly a fallacy and a waste of time... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.114.131.118 (talk) 09:26, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- if you would quit socking then we could, couldn't we. The fact that you are still so convinced that the rules don't or shouldn't apply to you because you think you're right shows exactly why your edits won't see the light of day. Just wait six months, stop screwing around, and you might get an unblock request approved, if you even understand why you've been blocked in the first place, which I presume you don't. Can't you find something else to do, or go edit jpwiki or something if you want to edit so badly? Unless you've exhausted the admins' patience for your poor behaviour there as well?BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 11:20, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
- Edit count is too small to be 100% sure, but keep an eye on Fg-3000. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 06:43, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, I see what you mean... Sergecross73 msg me 12:58, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- And after their recent comment at WP:VG, I'm pretty sure its him. Sergecross73 msg me 13:01, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
- By the looks of his post on WPVG and some study of his previous socks' history, he might go around other Japanese video game company articles causing trouble, so I made some addenda to the topic area section of the socklist, just in case. He still sticks out like a sore thumb, but at this point edits to Konami, Capcom etc along with Sega may also be suspect behavior from new accounts as far as I see it. BLUSTER⌉⌊BLASTER 14:41, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Not much can be done about it and it isn't a huge issue by any means, but I just noticed he's started keeping his deleted sandboxes over in de.wiki since mid-August. I don't know if there's a rule against preparing enwiki material in a different-language wiki's userspace when you're indef-blocked on enwiki, but... ᴅʀᴀᴄᴏʟyᴄʜ - ✉✎ 12:42, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Huh, interesting. I'm pretty sure the other language Wikipedias are beyond my jurisdiction, though I don't know for sure because honestly I don't really know any other languages and haven't really visited any other Wikipedias, so it's never really come up. That's an interesting find, but ultimately, he seems so obsessed with disrupting en-wiki, that even if we deleted it, he's probably got it saved in a Word Document or something off-line, so I don't think it would even make all that much of a difference to delete it if we could... Sergecross73 msg me 13:04, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, it probably wouldn't, I didn't think so. I'd just been checking if he'd been causing trouble on other-language wikis by using the xtools contribs doohickey, but insofar the worst he's doing is toeing the rules by keeping his stuff out of enwiki's remit while he's blocked. It'll get nuked the second it comes back, so it's not a big deal either way. ᴅʀᴀᴄᴏʟyᴄʜ - ✉✎ 13:51, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, it could be good to know for the future, so I do appreciate the note. Good find, thanks for letting me know. Sergecross73 msg me 13:55, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, it probably wouldn't, I didn't think so. I'd just been checking if he'd been causing trouble on other-language wikis by using the xtools contribs doohickey, but insofar the worst he's doing is toeing the rules by keeping his stuff out of enwiki's remit while he's blocked. It'll get nuked the second it comes back, so it's not a big deal either way. ᴅʀᴀᴄᴏʟyᴄʜ - ✉✎ 13:51, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
I was going to leave it to Dissident to report it if ddd was going to stick to his talkpage, but now I'm sure it's him IP-socking and going onto Yu Suzuki after bugging Diss about Sega on his talkpage again. Here they are so far; more to come, I'm sure:
- 62.46.145.148 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
- 194.118.225.40 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
ᴅʀᴀᴄᴏʟyᴄʜ - ✉✎ 14:23, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
- Another one, 194.118.228.9 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). The edits are minor, but it's still block evading, so do what you must Serge. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 09:41, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Forgot to ask you this before the weekend, but out of curiosity who was the other evader you mentioned you locked out of Yu Suzuki? Somebody else to keep an eye out for in these parts? ᴅʀᴀᴄᴏʟyᴄʜ - ✉✎ 15:12, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- Are you referring to here, where I said I was blocking out 2 unrelated evaders? It was because lower in the view history, the editor "Indrian" mentioned that he was reverting the edits of "Jagged", who was referring to Jagged 85. He was a editor who was blocked a few years back who kept getting caught adding fake sources or fake direct quotes from sources (usually to print magazines, which were harder to catch). He was eventually indef blocked about it, but he's been known to still pop up as an IP. The main thing to be skeptical about would be an IP making large edits, adding a ton of Magazine Reviews to review boxes of games with a lot of knowledge of Wiki-Markup (which is already a bit sketchy for an IP to know so much about.) That's all I really recall though, I wasn't all that actively involved in that one... Sergecross73 msg me 15:24, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for stuff of that nature in that case. ᴅʀᴀᴄᴏʟyᴄʜ - ✉✎ 15:49, 5 October 2015 (UTC)