User talk:El C
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If you have the capacity to tremble with indignation every time that an injustice is committed in the world, then we are comrades. – Che.
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For you
[edit]El C, contrary to your edit summary- I noticed you were gone, and missed seeing you on recent changes. You are one of my favourite editors. This is for you. Regards, dvdrw 04:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yay! Many chipthanks for the kind words. Greatly appreciated. Best, El_C 06:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Well I noticed and missed you! (Official circular here). Novickas (talk) 12:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Thought of you while uploading this picture [1]... for all of your work. Novickas (talk) 17:35, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
- Many thanks! El_C 11:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sort of in a hole and am having difficulties submerging. Speaking of holes/that chippie, I got to do some visiting in its burro recently...
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- You look really good in your purple hat! Bishonen | talk 00:19, 4 November 2008 (UTC).
- Free hat! Today, while cheekadeepetting, this lady who saw us from a far, came over and said: "Can I tell you something...? You're an angel of God."(!) To which I of course replied: "All hail Atheismo!" [nah, I said: "thank you, maddam, that's very kind of you" — what else could I say?] I took an especially neat cheekadeepetting photograph today: it remained visible between my thumb and index as it flew away, giving the illusion it was bee-sized! What an unexpected, and sweet, effect! El_C 02:48, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
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Wow, Capitano, where do you get a large enough sweater for a person with that hand? Bishonen | talk 20:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC).
- And then there's Skunky! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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Oooo. Purdy!
[edit]Combine obvious love of animals with photography results in photographic win! — Coren (talk) 15:09, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! Great to learn that peoples (plural!) like! Chickadee says hi! El_C 14:00, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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Seasons Greetings
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- Hello. Thanks, SqueakBox 23:14, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
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Thx, everyone! Happy 2009! El_C 12:55, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Happy Groundhog Day
[edit]Happy day! Jehochman Talk 19:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Chippies
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El C, I've been meaning to ask for ages. What is the link between revolutionary socialism and chimpunks? Did I miss that bit in Animal Farm? Is it something to do with resting the means of damn making from beavers? --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- No link; but are you referring to Groundhog? (see left) There is a Groundhog-Chippie connection, which I was trying to further cultivate (see right). El_C 11:48, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
"Love is in the air ....dooooo .....dooo.dooo ......doooo ......dooo.doooo ." --Joopercoopers (talk) 11:55, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Well, I'm envious. You get to pet ALL the fuzzeh creatures! — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:40, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Book?
[edit]Let me know when it is out, and you will up your sales by one. :-) KillerChihuahua?!? 09:22, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
1. Four Facets of existence: 1. Matter 2. Energy 3. Space 4. Time
2. Four Dimensions: 1. 1D 2. 2D 3. 3D 4. 4D (temporal)
3. Four Fundamental interactions: 1. Strong 2. EM 3. Weak 4. Gravity
4. Four States of matter: 1. Solid 2. Liquid 3. Gas 4. Plasma
Rev-dels
[edit]Just for information at the moment: are you able to do revision deletions? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 19:47, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
- Affirmative. El_C 20:46, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. There are a couple of admins I usually contact when I see something that needs to deleted, but unfortunately they let real life interfere with their admin duties. You are online a lot at the same times I am, so it's good to have another person to contact if needed. I generally only ask personally if it's both serious and urgent. - BilCat (talk) 02:29, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, by all means. If I'm around, please don't hesitate. El_C 02:30, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks very much. I realize.my wording above presumes you'd be willing, and that I didn't actually ask, so thanks. :) - BilCat (talk) 04:01, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Romania
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I can live with your highly arbitrary closing summary of the RfC on the Talk page, so I do not want to persuade you to change it. However, you closed other on-going debates as well. Could you open the other debates? Thank you. Borsoka (talk) 05:57, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- Ah, the thanks I get! El_C 05:58, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
And all I got was a ^^^
[edit]- Talk:And Then There Were None#RfC: And Then There Were None and racial language
- Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics#Request for comments on the 'political position' parameter of the political party infobox
- Talk:Romania#RfC
- Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#RfC: HispanTV
- Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship#Is RfX a vote, or a consensus discussion? (RfC)
- Talk:Civil Rights Act of 1968#Merger of Fair Housing Act and Indian Civil Rights Act of 1968 into this article
- Talk:WikiLeaks#RFC: Murder Of Seth Rich content dispute
- Talk:Athens News#Request for comment
- Talk:SNC-Lavalin affair#RfC: LavScam
- Talk:Christchurch mosque shootings#RfC: Change "white supremacist" to "white nationalist"
Precious anniversary
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Nice. Thanks, Gerda!
El_C 08:24, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. Good day, see? Take music and flowers to your liking ;) - It's great to see your name so often on my watchlist. One area where I often wait for admin action - not now - is WP:ITNN, where we nominate for recent deaths to be shown on th Main page, and often the time between an article found [Ready] and then is [Posted] seems [too] long to still call it recent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, good ol' ITNC —where I got no credit for being the first to have
Posted the Corona virus outbreak, but upon (admittedly, perhaps somewhat prematurely) doing the same for the Kirk Douglas RD got a what-the-fuck-barbeque— it's a magical place! El_C 11:28, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- I see, sorry for touching some wound ;) - Same for me: last year, I nominated a great pianist for RD, after I first had create an article which took time, and then carried away to also make it decent, - and by then her death was so long ago that she wasn't mentioned at all. The more woman, and the more foreign, that danger seems imminent, and if I may bother you in case I seee it coming again, that would be great. At present, it's a man, listed 20 Feb (although who knows if that was the day?), and nobody even commented yet, so nothing to be concerned about right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hey, by all means, if you feel Peter Dreher is [Ready], let me know so I could do the honours. El_C 12:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- I nominated him, so am not the most independent to judge ;) - and I'm already busy with the next, a woman, but mostly not foreign. - I really think we have some unintended bias there: the most prominent figures (white U.S. males) get speedy attention, and appear soon at the top position, while the female foreigners - often reported late to start with - take so long to even be noticed that they get only a place towards the end, finally, - as long as we go by date of death and not "in at the top". Result: those who are promminent already get preferred showing, more in front, and longer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Indeed, countering systemic bias is a treacherous mistress — though in the case of Kirk Douglas, I have to admit my own affinity for his admirable work countering the Hollywood blacklist... Anyway, +Peter Dreher to RD. El_C 13:16, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- I nominated him, so am not the most independent to judge ;) - and I'm already busy with the next, a woman, but mostly not foreign. - I really think we have some unintended bias there: the most prominent figures (white U.S. males) get speedy attention, and appear soon at the top position, while the female foreigners - often reported late to start with - take so long to even be noticed that they get only a place towards the end, finally, - as long as we go by date of death and not "in at the top". Result: those who are promminent already get preferred showing, more in front, and longer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:04, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Hey, by all means, if you feel Peter Dreher is [Ready], let me know so I could do the honours. El_C 12:53, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- I see, sorry for touching some wound ;) - Same for me: last year, I nominated a great pianist for RD, after I first had create an article which took time, and then carried away to also make it decent, - and by then her death was so long ago that she wasn't mentioned at all. The more woman, and the more foreign, that danger seems imminent, and if I may bother you in case I seee it coming again, that would be great. At present, it's a man, listed 20 Feb (although who knows if that was the day?), and nobody even commented yet, so nothing to be concerned about right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Ah, good ol' ITNC —where I got no credit for being the first to have
- Thank you. Good day, see? Take music and flowers to your liking ;) - It's great to see your name so often on my watchlist. One area where I often wait for admin action - not now - is WP:ITNN, where we nominate for recent deaths to be shown on th Main page, and often the time between an article found [Ready] and then is [Posted] seems [too] long to still call it recent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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Alte Liebe |
- Thank you, love-ly! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:42, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- I nominated the poet for ITNN. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:36, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- At the [Ready]! El_C 14:48, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- and posted ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- That was quick! I helped? El_C 17:33, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- think so ;) - today's Alte Liebe became especially meaningful after yesterday's funeral. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
- That was quick! I helped? El_C 17:33, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- and posted ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- At the [Ready]! El_C 14:48, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Next foreign women RD: Odile Pierre. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:12, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt: sorry for the belated response — I overlooked your last message. Apologies for not being able to assist with that one. Please don't hesitate to list more. I'll try to be more cognizant of this thread next time, I promise. El_C 03:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Gerda's corner
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To help me better remember! El_C 05:10, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Gerda’s corner is lovely. When I have more time in my life and can do things beyond blocking socks, I plan to spend time there getting some of the Holy Thursday hymns on the main page. Gerda, if it’s not too late to find one, let me know. The Pange Lingua is always a first choice, but if there are any others you can think of, I’m open. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:26, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Also, El C’s talk page is lovely, especially for his hosting my musing about music he likely doesn’t care about one iota! TonyBallioni (talk) 05:28, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Actually, I like all kinds of music, including of the eclectic and esoteric variaty — lately I've been Dimashing it up (special thanks goes to Jasmin Ariane!). El_C 05:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Lovely corner, thank you! Today is The day of music, two choirs singing. I'd like Beati improved - but it's in the evensong, perhaps I'll get to a few more lines. On IWD, I should also get Elinor Ross in better shape ... - but singing comes first. Listen to Beati by voces8, another article needing improvement. Singing comes first ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- On the ITNN page, 6 Mar, Carsten Bresch. We will possibly never know when he died, but should use 6 - when the world was informed - as the day by which we go. I may be alone with that view ;) - Lovely lively colours! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Expect the sky to fall at ITNC — posted with Mar 0? (!). El_C 13:34, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for posting, and I added "Posted", but don't want to pass credits. DYK you know that it is as easy as clicking on the words "credit" in the nom? Nice progress on the soprano, but out for singing (alto), second round. A good source for her death would be a nice addition, anyone. this is all Spanish to me, and the English one is a blog. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- nom done, and the credits were done by someone else - bedtime --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Sleep tight. El_C 23:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- done also, and she's there - today's topic seem to be errors (3) in the OTD section of the Main page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:28, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Amakuru took care of that! - What should I do about this decline? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:58, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- If you're confident it's good, I would move it to main namespace nonetheless. El_C 10:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- How about you? - I asked the decliner for reasoning, but got no answer. I think it might be better if it's not a personal thing between them and me, so an independent pair of eyes might help. - I don't go via AfC, nor does my friend LouisAlain, but last year many of his translations were sent to draft space, for lack of refs, just because de and fr have different ideas about referencing. I try to rescue, that's all. Then get a ridiculous template on my talk recommending the Teahouse, and still see the ridiculous decline template recommending to seek help from an experienced editor, - the things we do to voluntary contributors ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
Done. Mainspacified. And I didn't even visit the Teahouse! El_C 13:37, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- pacified ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for tagging me, El_C!
Concerning Dimash: Oh wow, I really didn't expect that! But I'm happy you enjoy it!
It's funny, it's not even a genre I usually listen to. But the first time I heard him 2 years ago, I immediately loved his music. I love his voice, his emotional interpretation; and his vocal skill, range and versatility are just enormous. And he seems to be a very nice and humble guy, which makes it even easier to like him.
PS: "eclectic and esoteric variety"? Wow, that sounds interesting. Jasmin Ariane (talk) 21:55, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- ♫ Welcome to the corner, Jasmin! Yes, I love Dimash's Sinful Passion, New Wave, SOS d'un terrien en détresse, Ogni Pietra (Olimpico), Opera 2, and more. Indeed, music-wise, I'm all over the place. Yesterday, I was listening to the Mahavishnu Orchestra, I'm listening to Charlie Byrd right now (because I love bossa nova, above all else), and I'm listening to the China Philharmonic Orchestra in the car currently. So, yeah, all over the place. Welcome, again! ♫ El_C 16:47, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for tagging me, El_C!
- pacified ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- How about you? - I asked the decliner for reasoning, but got no answer. I think it might be better if it's not a personal thing between them and me, so an independent pair of eyes might help. - I don't go via AfC, nor does my friend LouisAlain, but last year many of his translations were sent to draft space, for lack of refs, just because de and fr have different ideas about referencing. I try to rescue, that's all. Then get a ridiculous template on my talk recommending the Teahouse, and still see the ridiculous decline template recommending to seek help from an experienced editor, - the things we do to voluntary contributors ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- If you're confident it's good, I would move it to main namespace nonetheless. El_C 10:07, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
- Sleep tight. El_C 23:27, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
- Actually, I like all kinds of music, including of the eclectic and esoteric variaty — lately I've been Dimashing it up (special thanks goes to Jasmin Ariane!). El_C 05:32, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
Gerda's February corner
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Hellebore |
Want a drink in darkness? - Schloss Freudenberg --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Somehow, I don't really see that concept spreading to other bars... Back to out previous conversation, somewhat, a different kind of Green: "MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE - A Randy Rainbow Song Parody" (just released). El_C 14:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- I missed Mathsci for two years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Criss-crossing paths... El_C 15:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- BWV 1, concertante violin 1 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- That's right, I remember seeing that. El_C 15:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Did you ever click on Reformation on my user page, first occurence? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I have clicked on all of the (longstanding) links on your userpage. El_C 16:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- I am impressed. ... and follow to what the first 2 had discussed, and used, and then one of them needed it, and probably had known that all the time? ... which was my user page lead until 2021 when I decided people hovering over my name should see a pic I took. The last time I used it was for Cassianto, 24 May 2020. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sure, but otherwise, your userpage isn't easy to parse, due to the fact that you actually use it. I edit mine like once a decade. El_C 18:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- I copied that from BarkingMoon including the top icon - a bird on the Main page today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Love it when the Main page gets that much colour. I noticed that article yesterday and thought: wow, those birds are almost as iridescent as Hummingbirds , which are... well, kinda the best! El_C 18:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Opa is now on the Main page, Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - see here. - Further down on the page, there are conversations about the current arb case request - I feel I have to stay away - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yay for Green Opa! This made my day!
El_C 16:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- Today, we have Doris Stockhausen on her 97th birthday ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yay for Green Opa! This made my day!
- Opa is now on the Main page, Wilhelm Knabe, who stood up for future with the striking school children when he was in his 90s, - a model, - see here. - Further down on the page, there are conversations about the current arb case request - I feel I have to stay away - in a nutshell: "... will not improve kindness, nor any article". - Yesterday, I made sure on a hike that the flowers are actually blooming ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:13, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- yes --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Love it when the Main page gets that much colour. I noticed that article yesterday and thought: wow, those birds are almost as iridescent as Hummingbirds , which are... well, kinda the best! El_C 18:18, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- I copied that from BarkingMoon including the top icon - a bird on the Main page today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:07, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sure, but otherwise, your userpage isn't easy to parse, due to the fact that you actually use it. I edit mine like once a decade. El_C 18:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- I am impressed. ... and follow to what the first 2 had discussed, and used, and then one of them needed it, and probably had known that all the time? ... which was my user page lead until 2021 when I decided people hovering over my name should see a pic I took. The last time I used it was for Cassianto, 24 May 2020. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, I have clicked on all of the (longstanding) links on your userpage. El_C 16:08, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Did you ever click on Reformation on my user page, first occurence? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- That's right, I remember seeing that. El_C 15:24, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- BWV 1, concertante violin 1 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- Criss-crossing paths... El_C 15:16, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
- I missed Mathsci for two years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:14, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Birds of a feather
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Spiel nicht mit den Schmuddelkindern ... anticipated protest --- and listen, not to me, but the music (in the article) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
... and after the music, please listen to User talk:Nikkimaria --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- I don't understand. There's a YouTube video at the bottom of the page, but it's just some people talking in German (which I don't-Opa-understand) alongside some German folk music (not my cup of tea). Then, you link to Nikkimaria's talk page as an ill with numbers and stuff, but it still only links to their main user talk page. Quite confusing. El_C 13:48, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- entirely my fault, I thought I had the video in the article, but no, only on the talk of Martinevans123, and when I'm absent-minded, I confuse ill and diff, Nikkimaria. But hurray, I just expanded the soprano, sufficiently I hope. Need fresh air now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't really like that song. Didn't dislike it either. Was just kinda meh. Personally, I prefer the Israeli children songs I grew up on, like הילדה הכי יפה בגן, for example. El_C 16:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Mr. Degenhardt would have been delighted! Not a song to be liked, - did you read the quote which I translated (improving on Deeple) per the talk request. Song talk about unpleasant smells, ending with a crime and a corpse swimming ... while the surviving grubby children keep singing that you better don't play with them. - Thanks for yours. Did you read my advice for M? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- I did not. Quoted where? Also, after Opa, I'm afraid to ask, but what's a "Deeple"? Yes, I saw it. Sound advise, but I'm still concerned that further cognizance will nonetheless be needed in order to avoid utter disaster in the future. El_C 16:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- my next mistake, DeepL - as you know everything about me you'll know that I am an infobox warrior who had to be restricted by arbcom to prevent utter disaster in the future. For 2 years I was too proud to appeal. I should have known SBHB's advice in the case, but then we might not have gotten to Beethoven ;) - RfC for Ian Fleming, and I stay away, I stay away, I don't play that game any more - please, be never afraid to ask! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Matti Caspi laments about how many songs can even be created, but does so in a song he created (כמה שירים אפשר להמציא בכלל), so there you go. Take that, eternity! El_C 17:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda doesn't lament but enjoys the support by Brian, continued when others called her guilty, - always trying to mediate. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Tis the season for bitter-sweet...? Also, trying something (top of section — EEng uncredited mention). El_C 18:45, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- look --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- did you? - interesting bitter-sweet today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:35, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- I did in passing, but I just am not in the headspace for riddles today, I'm afraid. But I did like File:Idstein,_Unytsjerke._Oersjoch_ynterieur.jpg. Almost-but-not-quite grand; warm but-not-quite gaudy. Sorry, I haven't heard of that translator before. Did you know her, personally? El_C 23:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. The church pic - as you will have seen - is in my user infobox for 2021. I don't know the singer personally, but she sang for us several times, Bach's great works (all explained if you follow the link, also (below there) that some like to receive my thanks and appreciation), and she sang recently in cantata services that I pictured (her page). On all these pictures, she is too small for "about her", and my lead is smaller "about me", of course. - I knew nothing about the translator, but she was a red link on Deaths in 2021. The bitter-sweetness is between her and her ex-husband, a novelist with an article who wrote her obit. (They had four children when they were divorced, and now he has ten.) - The delegate called me to task for the Bach cantata, so I will have to not follow spontaneous impulses for a few days, - hope no one dies whose article has to be written. In the cantata, BWV 1, I have a problem. The article was all built on one source (and all other Bach cantatas at the time also, btw) which one user denies reliability. I wanted to keep it, supporting it for all facts - only recordings, anyway - by a second source, trying to be faithful to the article history and to retain what editors did before me. He removed it. Quite generally, I have a problem with expansions which ignore what former editors achieved, see BWV 53 and Ian Fleming for recently mentioned examples. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, just read that at: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/08/dr-vera-wulfing-leckie-obituary — I see what you mean. Right, I knew it (the church) looked familiar. Hope you're able to resolve your BWV 1 problem. I'd offer to help, but I'd probably just mess it up, anyway. El_C 16:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- You will not mess anything up if you look at the old ref and tell me if it looks despicable to you, just for curiosity. The article was like this when I began "taking over". - Did you see this trying to revert a takeover? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- It does not look "despicable" to me, but I am far from an authority. This is not an area with which I am familiar. El_C 18:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, helped. I just found this (having searched for Thomanerchor) and look what is bolded, and praised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- It does not look "despicable" to me, but I am far from an authority. This is not an area with which I am familiar. El_C 18:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- You will not mess anything up if you look at the old ref and tell me if it looks despicable to you, just for curiosity. The article was like this when I began "taking over". - Did you see this trying to revert a takeover? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, just read that at: https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/feb/08/dr-vera-wulfing-leckie-obituary — I see what you mean. Right, I knew it (the church) looked familiar. Hope you're able to resolve your BWV 1 problem. I'd offer to help, but I'd probably just mess it up, anyway. El_C 16:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. The church pic - as you will have seen - is in my user infobox for 2021. I don't know the singer personally, but she sang for us several times, Bach's great works (all explained if you follow the link, also (below there) that some like to receive my thanks and appreciation), and she sang recently in cantata services that I pictured (her page). On all these pictures, she is too small for "about her", and my lead is smaller "about me", of course. - I knew nothing about the translator, but she was a red link on Deaths in 2021. The bitter-sweetness is between her and her ex-husband, a novelist with an article who wrote her obit. (They had four children when they were divorced, and now he has ten.) - The delegate called me to task for the Bach cantata, so I will have to not follow spontaneous impulses for a few days, - hope no one dies whose article has to be written. In the cantata, BWV 1, I have a problem. The article was all built on one source (and all other Bach cantatas at the time also, btw) which one user denies reliability. I wanted to keep it, supporting it for all facts - only recordings, anyway - by a second source, trying to be faithful to the article history and to retain what editors did before me. He removed it. Quite generally, I have a problem with expansions which ignore what former editors achieved, see BWV 53 and Ian Fleming for recently mentioned examples. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- I did in passing, but I just am not in the headspace for riddles today, I'm afraid. But I did like File:Idstein,_Unytsjerke._Oersjoch_ynterieur.jpg. Almost-but-not-quite grand; warm but-not-quite gaudy. Sorry, I haven't heard of that translator before. Did you know her, personally? El_C 23:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Tis the season for bitter-sweet...? Also, trying something (top of section — EEng uncredited mention). El_C 18:45, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda doesn't lament but enjoys the support by Brian, continued when others called her guilty, - always trying to mediate. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Matti Caspi laments about how many songs can even be created, but does so in a song he created (כמה שירים אפשר להמציא בכלל), so there you go. Take that, eternity! El_C 17:13, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- my next mistake, DeepL - as you know everything about me you'll know that I am an infobox warrior who had to be restricted by arbcom to prevent utter disaster in the future. For 2 years I was too proud to appeal. I should have known SBHB's advice in the case, but then we might not have gotten to Beethoven ;) - RfC for Ian Fleming, and I stay away, I stay away, I don't play that game any more - please, be never afraid to ask! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- I did not. Quoted where? Also, after Opa, I'm afraid to ask, but what's a "Deeple"? Yes, I saw it. Sound advise, but I'm still concerned that further cognizance will nonetheless be needed in order to avoid utter disaster in the future. El_C 16:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Mr. Degenhardt would have been delighted! Not a song to be liked, - did you read the quote which I translated (improving on Deeple) per the talk request. Song talk about unpleasant smells, ending with a crime and a corpse swimming ... while the surviving grubby children keep singing that you better don't play with them. - Thanks for yours. Did you read my advice for M? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, I didn't really like that song. Didn't dislike it either. Was just kinda meh. Personally, I prefer the Israeli children songs I grew up on, like הילדה הכי יפה בגן, for example. El_C 16:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- entirely my fault, I thought I had the video in the article, but no, only on the talk of Martinevans123, and when I'm absent-minded, I confuse ill and diff, Nikkimaria. But hurray, I just expanded the soprano, sufficiently I hope. Need fresh air now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Helleborus orientalis |
happy Valentine's! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, for you, too. Did an English translation of a song at User_talk:El_C#Us, btw, and am about to submit another ("US," itself), so check it out! El_C 16:23, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
- adding today's featured picture of February 17 - a nice match to my wild one --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Lovely, lovely! El_C 23:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- adding today's featured picture of February 17 - a nice match to my wild one --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:23, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Request to put 2021 storming of the United States Capitol under WP:1RR
[edit]@El C: @Octoberwoodland: Continuing this discussion, I'd like to request that 2021 storming of the United States Capitol be put under WP:1RR (I guess that would be Template:American politics AE?). How do I make such a request? Post to WP:AN? Or can an admin (i.e. you :-)) do that without a formal request? — Chrisahn (talk) 23:59, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Chrisahn, right, you ask me, here, like so. But can you show that there is a lot of protracted edit warring going on? Because I'm wary of throttling a page that sees that much activity. Not sure why you pinged Octoberwoodland here. They are not an admin, so they do not have the authority to grant your request. El_C 00:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- No, there hasn't been much edit warring. Just like Octoberwoodland, I thought the page was already under 1RR, and I thought it would be useful. But if you'd rather not do it yet, that's fine with me as well. If problems do arise, I'll come back here. But I hope it won't be necessary. :-) (The ping was just because Octoberwoodland started the discussion at Alalch Emis's talk page and might want to chime in here.) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Just understood that moments ago (the ping). Anyway, in general, restrictions are added by need only. The general consensus among admins is to wait and see, and only if needed add 1RR. And if that isn't enough, only then move on to additional enhancements, like Consensus required (i.e. gradual escalation). Regards, El_C 00:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation! These processes are more fine-grained than I thought. Probably a good thing. Although I'm afraid I won't remember the difference between {{ds/editnotice}} and {{ds/talk notice}} a week from now. :-) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- I just type T:DSA (all listed at the bottom), otherwise, who can remember! El_C 00:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation! These processes are more fine-grained than I thought. Probably a good thing. Although I'm afraid I won't remember the difference between {{ds/editnotice}} and {{ds/talk notice}} a week from now. :-) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:54, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Just understood that moments ago (the ping). Anyway, in general, restrictions are added by need only. The general consensus among admins is to wait and see, and only if needed add 1RR. And if that isn't enough, only then move on to additional enhancements, like Consensus required (i.e. gradual escalation). Regards, El_C 00:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- No, there hasn't been much edit warring. Just like Octoberwoodland, I thought the page was already under 1RR, and I thought it would be useful. But if you'd rather not do it yet, that's fine with me as well. If problems do arise, I'll come back here. But I hope it won't be necessary. :-) (The ping was just because Octoberwoodland started the discussion at Alalch Emis's talk page and might want to chime in here.) — Chrisahn (talk) 00:21, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
It is time I knew more about do's and don'ts applicable to infoboxes. Could you let me have the link to any WP that applies to Infoboxes as such? Qexigator (talk) 17:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm far from an authority on infoboxes, Qexigator, so short of pointing you to the MOS:INFOBOX-obvious, I would just advise you to avoid WP:ARBINFOBOX2 at all cost! Regards, El_C 18:13, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Some users get hot about infoboxes, while for others it's the normal thing to have. Before adding an infobox to an article without one, check for warnings in edit mode, and for discussions on the talk page. Recent example Ian Fleming, nonono. Those who made the article as nice as it is today don't like it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:23, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Haha! See what I mean, Qexigator? *Pokes Gerda* El_C 18:25, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the link to MOS:INFOBOX. This comfirms my experience when I have been looking at or editing other well-established articles on impottant topics: the infobox is 'to summarize (and not supplant) key facts that appear in the article (an article should remain complete with its summary infobox ignored,,,The less information it contains, the more effectively it serves that purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance,' If well done, they can be very helpful when needed.' Qexigator (talk) 18:44, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- My favourite is Beethoven. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- The unquestionable elegance of less is more. El_C 19:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- I am so proud of that ;) - Did you know that I designed it in the workshop of Teh Case ("Actually, I believe almost every article would profit from a placement like that in history and geography.")? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- The unquestionable elegance of less is more. El_C 19:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
- My favourite is Beethoven. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:05, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
Us
[edit]- User:El C/Songs from the homeland (YouTube links to individual performances are at the top of the subpage, in boldface)
"Didn't Know You'd Walk Away From Me"
"Yes, It Has No Chance, But Between Myself And I Everything Is Allowed"
Last updated: El_C 09:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Gerda loves subsections!
[edit]- Thanks for sharing! Reminds me of my one and only contrib to the Hebrew Wikipedia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- I would have liked to add the pic to context, but can't tell ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Are you referring to he:קובץ:Ubud_Cremation_4.jpg, because that is one scary dragon! El_C 08:51, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- yes ;) - that pic was taken by my much-missed friend who made the good version for Ian Fleming, and my illustration for the infobox wars (see the link to the workshop, and in my 2020 talk archive). - On the other topic, Bach, we have now another ANI, by Smerus, Nikkimaria is fighting, I shake my head and try to look away, and Mathsci is still blocked. How many more editors in good standing are going to be burnt? - I like the singers music, but the images best when I see him, not graphics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Haha! All roads lead to Ian Fleming, it seems.
Also, you're making me sound like the grim reaper, but I just want to pet a chipmunk! El_C 11:03, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- "making you sound"? I just tremble with indignation - out for the day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- That's the second time today where I've had Che quoted back at me — looks like it's gonna be one of those days... Enjoy your outing! El_C 11:13, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- "making you sound"? I just tremble with indignation - out for the day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:07, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Haha! All roads lead to Ian Fleming, it seems.
- yes ;) - that pic was taken by my much-missed friend who made the good version for Ian Fleming, and my illustration for the infobox wars (see the link to the workshop, and in my 2020 talk archive). - On the other topic, Bach, we have now another ANI, by Smerus, Nikkimaria is fighting, I shake my head and try to look away, and Mathsci is still blocked. How many more editors in good standing are going to be burnt? - I like the singers music, but the images best when I see him, not graphics. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Are you referring to he:קובץ:Ubud_Cremation_4.jpg, because that is one scary dragon! El_C 08:51, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
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Innisfree Garden |
- Back from sun and snow: sorry if that landed wrong. I was a bit in a rush, and reacted to "all roads lead to IF". I don't care about IF, at all, the number of my edits to his article is zero, the number of my edits to the talk page is zero. I had not thought of him in years until the ongoing RfC, and my edits will remain zero. I use his name as an example, because - with the RfC going - I can mention it, otherwise if I mentioned a name from the group someone would come and cry "canvassing".
- I thought about the animosity, and what I can trace back (because I really don't understand it), and looked at what I wrote about Ian Fleming on the page deleted as a call to battle. I made a note of the name, that it was infobox person (red background indicating that it was lost) and the above-mentioned diff of a good version from 2012 piped to the date. That's all. I had forgotten until I looked it up now that my friend had made the good version. When we lost him (later that year) I spread the image all over the Wikipedias, even Hebrew (with some help from a friend from Jerusalem). My first reaction had been to leave, but then I didn't want to do his enemies that favour ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ooh, that is some lovley greenery. So nice. Also, you can CANVASS me any day, Gerda, but should probably note my propensity to call (!)voter fraud whenever things don't go my way (diff). Anyway, trying to take it easy today, with the occasional bouts of critical drinking. El_C 19:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Fine, easy today, will explain "canvass" some other day, also why I think the animosity is inherited, because the listing described really doesn't explain it, - although I can see (now) that the red background - about as red as your top image - could be seen as inflammatory. But a reason to leave Wikipedia? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:17, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
- Easier today, with progress on BWV 1. Back to the beginning, Hebrew: we miss Yoninah, terribly, and one of the many things she would have done for me is adding the text of a psalm to the article, compare Psalm 45 and Psalm 43. The text can be found at the bottom, in External links. I could probably manage but would feel safer if someone did it who could actually read it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:44, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Done. Oh, good, glad to hear it. Yup, I well know Yoninah for her top-tier contributions. I wouldn't count our losses yet, though. She's only been gone less than a month. Hopefully, she'll return soon. *Sending positive vibes* El_C 11:01, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Haha! Dangerous terrain (diff), who would have thunk it? (Seriously, I didn't.) El_C 11:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm. I confess to being puzzled (diff). Anyway, pinged you to User_talk:Veverve#Psalm_43_query. Hopefully, my confusion can be assuaged. El_C 11:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- did it? (I had an edit conflict there) - thank you for a new word, "assuaged" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- See the trouble you get me into? Now to ameliorate! El_C 11:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- going out again, sun and snow, will think about amelioration when walking --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Obligatory Here Comes Sunshine spam! El_C 12:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- refreshed: spam for spam (subject of my first article, which was supposed to be the only one, but it had this red link ...) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Very nice, but I still think I'm owed some Psalms-related comforting! El_C 20:38, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- refreshed: spam for spam (subject of my first article, which was supposed to be the only one, but it had this red link ...) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Obligatory Here Comes Sunshine spam! El_C 12:27, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- going out again, sun and snow, will think about amelioration when walking --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:03, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- See the trouble you get me into? Now to ameliorate! El_C 11:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- did it? (I had an edit conflict there) - thank you for a new word, "assuaged" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm. I confess to being puzzled (diff). Anyway, pinged you to User_talk:Veverve#Psalm_43_query. Hopefully, my confusion can be assuaged. El_C 11:32, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Haha! Dangerous terrain (diff), who would have thunk it? (Seriously, I didn't.) El_C 11:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ooh, that is some lovley greenery. So nice. Also, you can CANVASS me any day, Gerda, but should probably note my propensity to call (!)voter fraud whenever things don't go my way (diff). Anyway, trying to take it easy today, with the occasional bouts of critical drinking. El_C 19:28, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
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- "no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, I like that a lot! El_C 20:49, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- Sadly: more work for you, in her memory. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, I like that a lot! El_C 20:49, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
- "no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Guess what, BWV 1 and BWV 159 make progress. You mentioned AE. I was there, last 2015. It was so awful that I dropped all pride (and it felt like giving up walking uprightly - watch out for Psalm 110 there) and appealed (and even successfully so). Starlight on top of that archive ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:01, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- I'll take some startlight — been flying too close to the sun lately, truth be told. El_C 18:34, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- You are welcome! I made a hook, also for you.
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Did you know ...
... that Universalkünstler
Arik Brauer
created paintings in Fantastic Realism,
songs in Austropop,
stage sets for the Paris Opera,
and house facades in Austria and Israel?
- One this day nine years ago, I told Voceditenore that she is a voice of opera and reason. In 2018, she said: "And, no, there haven't been infobox squabbles in ages. I personally use them all the time now for biographies and operas. There are a few diehards left, but the general attitude from both perspectives seems to have settled on live and let live." So why is it that some still can't settle on live and let live? - The next cookbook author is scheluded to appear as TFA (with a nice infobox btw, as the last), and I will keep the usual thanks to the creator for myself as insistent, but I don't understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Love the artwork of Arik Brauer — nicely done! Ah, the vicissitudes of infoboxen, its ebbs and and flow. What a peculiar thing it is. El_C 14:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- No, it doesn't. It could just ebb. In 2018, it was no concern. Why is it now? Why can't we just edit the little boxes as other content: someone adds, and if someone reverts, consensus needs to be established. Instead, someone adding, or requesting, or just asking where it went, is considered a warrior. The question where it went often goes like this: when a certain group of editors expanded an article, they collapsed it (thinking that was a compromise, but making life harder for those having physical trouble to click the "show" button). That caused a little edit-war, which was "resolved" by taking it away completely, with a discussion like this on the talk following. Ever since, we have been reminded that there was this consensus not to have one, and we are supposed to believe that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- For sure, I am like-minded with you in that interpretation. WP:ONUS should generally be observed, like elsewhere. Indeed, there really isn't an excuse for not doing so. In theory, per WP:ARBINFOBOX2, WP:ACDS allows admins to just straight-up make it (ONUS) a requirement by adding Consensus required to intractable infobox disputes. My sense is that most admins just do not want to touch these because it usually ends up amounting to a zero-sum game, at best — myself, I don't really engage infobox disputes in an AE capacity, because the history and politics AE topic areas keep me busy enough (diff). El_C 16:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- There are almost no "intractable infobox disputes", really, so DS serves no purpose. The problem is that a newcomer who has no idea of a minefield is treated as a warrior. - I love your translations. We should have more us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, understood. Admittedly, I do not have a firm grasp of what's happening on the infobox front. RE: translations. Many thanks! I appreciate your praise very much. Also Val's. Strange how it took me hours and hours to do the first one, an hour to do the second one, and 30 minutes to do the third one. But I think I'm now finally satisfied with the final form of all three translations, so at least I'm done with the constant tinkering (though not to jinx it!). El_C 16:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- For more understanding: imagine - if you can, it takes courage - for a moment that back in 2012, the infobox had been kept as it had been for years then already. Imagine. - Certainly thanks to presentation here, Arik Brauer made it to the stats, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:48, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, understood. Admittedly, I do not have a firm grasp of what's happening on the infobox front. RE: translations. Many thanks! I appreciate your praise very much. Also Val's. Strange how it took me hours and hours to do the first one, an hour to do the second one, and 30 minutes to do the third one. But I think I'm now finally satisfied with the final form of all three translations, so at least I'm done with the constant tinkering (though not to jinx it!). El_C 16:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- There are almost no "intractable infobox disputes", really, so DS serves no purpose. The problem is that a newcomer who has no idea of a minefield is treated as a warrior. - I love your translations. We should have more us. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:36, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- For sure, I am like-minded with you in that interpretation. WP:ONUS should generally be observed, like elsewhere. Indeed, there really isn't an excuse for not doing so. In theory, per WP:ARBINFOBOX2, WP:ACDS allows admins to just straight-up make it (ONUS) a requirement by adding Consensus required to intractable infobox disputes. My sense is that most admins just do not want to touch these because it usually ends up amounting to a zero-sum game, at best — myself, I don't really engage infobox disputes in an AE capacity, because the history and politics AE topic areas keep me busy enough (diff). El_C 16:19, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- No, it doesn't. It could just ebb. In 2018, it was no concern. Why is it now? Why can't we just edit the little boxes as other content: someone adds, and if someone reverts, consensus needs to be established. Instead, someone adding, or requesting, or just asking where it went, is considered a warrior. The question where it went often goes like this: when a certain group of editors expanded an article, they collapsed it (thinking that was a compromise, but making life harder for those having physical trouble to click the "show" button). That caused a little edit-war, which was "resolved" by taking it away completely, with a discussion like this on the talk following. Ever since, we have been reminded that there was this consensus not to have one, and we are supposed to believe that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:10, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- Love the artwork of Arik Brauer — nicely done! Ah, the vicissitudes of infoboxen, its ebbs and and flow. What a peculiar thing it is. El_C 14:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
- One this day nine years ago, I told Voceditenore that she is a voice of opera and reason. In 2018, she said: "And, no, there haven't been infobox squabbles in ages. I personally use them all the time now for biographies and operas. There are a few diehards left, but the general attitude from both perspectives seems to have settled on live and let live." So why is it that some still can't settle on live and let live? - The next cookbook author is scheluded to appear as TFA (with a nice infobox btw, as the last), and I will keep the usual thanks to the creator for myself as insistent, but I don't understand. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Play Bach
[edit]How do you like this? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Enjoy the music, and make it last. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- (As) I always do, Gerda! Yours always, El_C 12:00, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Great music offer! - What do you think of the start of Reception, - the little prince never gives up a question. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Not usually a fan of princes, but here's one that really did music-it-up! El_C 12:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Agree about Johann Ernst! The Little Prince never gives up a question, "the prince has golden hair, a lovable laugh, and will repeat questions until they are answered". How do you like the beginning of reception? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- One of my favourite books growing up... Reception looks great to me. I think he did a fine job. Top tier musicology. El_C 16:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- I agree, but who is "he"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- "You know, that guy — who always wore a shirt." Oh, sorry, did you write that, with him just having merged it? It's a low attention span -day today, so brace yourself! El_C 17:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Nonono, I could never write such a thing (+ I'm not a "he" as the writer is, and yes, the obvious "he" just merged it). Two ways to the answer: you follow the links in the edit summary (better the second), or you look at the new article's talk page. Unless you just guess why I come to you of all people with this question, and may guess right. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- A riddle — noo! There better not be a math and science test at the end of this! El_C 17:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- test? first question in this thread has one (!) link, leading to the initial entry of a new article, with two (but I said better second) links, with the second leading to where an estimated 95% of the content came from. [2] - a fine job, indeed, not my style, but fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hoping for a D-. That would be about right. El_C 17:57, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- An unblock would do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda, for reasons which are my own, attending to this dispute, in any administrative capacity, just isn't something I wish to engage at this time. Sorry. El_C 20:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Understand. Appreciation of outstanding work is better. You can tell other admins where the clue is - my lead image until 2021 came, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, happy to pass on genuine positive impressions, always. Yes, I do. Breathtaking, primordial. El_C 22:26, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- "at times heavy to carry" (quoting myself still from the same page which also has the model for Precious, did you see? - the cabal of the outcast, - I told Bus stop four years ago, feel like Cassandre) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- And that's very much okay to express. Also, we can be in diametric opposition about whatever from time to time. That is also okay. El_C 23:20, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- "at times heavy to carry" (quoting myself still from the same page which also has the model for Precious, did you see? - the cabal of the outcast, - I told Bus stop four years ago, feel like Cassandre) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Of course, happy to pass on genuine positive impressions, always. Yes, I do. Breathtaking, primordial. El_C 22:26, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Understand. Appreciation of outstanding work is better. You can tell other admins where the clue is - my lead image until 2021 came, remember? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Gerda, for reasons which are my own, attending to this dispute, in any administrative capacity, just isn't something I wish to engage at this time. Sorry. El_C 20:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- An unblock would do. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:55, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Hoping for a D-. That would be about right. El_C 17:57, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- test? first question in this thread has one (!) link, leading to the initial entry of a new article, with two (but I said better second) links, with the second leading to where an estimated 95% of the content came from. [2] - a fine job, indeed, not my style, but fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- A riddle — noo! There better not be a math and science test at the end of this! El_C 17:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Nonono, I could never write such a thing (+ I'm not a "he" as the writer is, and yes, the obvious "he" just merged it). Two ways to the answer: you follow the links in the edit summary (better the second), or you look at the new article's talk page. Unless you just guess why I come to you of all people with this question, and may guess right. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- "You know, that guy — who always wore a shirt." Oh, sorry, did you write that, with him just having merged it? It's a low attention span -day today, so brace yourself! El_C 17:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- I agree, but who is "he"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- One of my favourite books growing up... Reception looks great to me. I think he did a fine job. Top tier musicology. El_C 16:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Agree about Johann Ernst! The Little Prince never gives up a question, "the prince has golden hair, a lovable laugh, and will repeat questions until they are answered". How do you like the beginning of reception? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Not usually a fan of princes, but here's one that really did music-it-up! El_C 12:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
- Great music offer! - What do you think of the start of Reception, - the little prince never gives up a question. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Psalm 12 when you have time - what happened? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:52, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
An edit request by Narky Blert
[edit]I have just set up an alternative account, Narky Blert (alt), so that I can edit logged-in until I can regain access to my main account, Narky Blert. (Condensed story - I fell ill in early December, with the result that I was admitted to hospital having being found unconscious after three days. I was discharged after a week, and consider myself recovered. An annoying side-effect was that I broke my PC, and am having trouble in recovering my PWs (that should be possible, but I'm having to rely on third parties).)
To comply with WP:ALTACC, I want to edit User:Narky Blert to add:
- {{User alternative account name|Narky Blert (alt)}}
- {{-}}
at the top, and
- [[Category:Wikipedia alternative accounts]]
at the bottom. However, as a newly-registered user, I cannot. Could I ask you to do this for me?
As a token of good faith, I offer you "Bella ciao" - [3], which strikes me as right up your street. Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 15:02, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Holy shit! So sorry to hear that, but glad you're on the mend. For sure, I'll get right on that. Wow, that's nuts. Thanks for the song. Glad to have you back, but take it easy, please! Jeez. El_C 15:10, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! I'm feeling better now than I have for months; I must have been building up to that episode which landed me in hospital. Now, if only I could do something about the misbegotten ISP I'm currently on... Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 17:34, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- But you made it, that's the most important thing! I love you, bwo!
El_C 17:47, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
- But you made it, that's the most important thing! I love you, bwo!
- Thanks! I'm feeling better now than I have for months; I must have been building up to that episode which landed me in hospital. Now, if only I could do something about the misbegotten ISP I'm currently on... Narky Blert (alt) (talk) 17:34, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
Prayer for Ukraine
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I took a pic in 2009 that was on the German MP yesterday, with the song from 1885, in English Prayer for Ukraine. - "Our" next psalm is Psalm 92, last week's, yesterday we had Psalm 91 but that - with the guardian angels is already covered, and I added compositions today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:03, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- Wow, did you take that picture with a Nokia flip phone or something? I can count the pixels! (No NoPixel jokes, please! But yes latest music.) BTW, are you at all familiar with the teachings of Rabbi Nachman? El_C 11:30, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- I don't remember - keep loosing my cameras. It's an excerpt of a larger pic, of course, and from the time when I joined Wikipedia. - No, not familiar, will perhaps look when dark. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- See Nachman_of_Breslov#Teachings. Last bulletpoint:
He emphasized [the] importance of music for spiritual development and religious practice
. His was probably the most philosophically sophisticated of the Hasidic Movement, now known as the Breslov (Hasidic group). Their Rosh Hashana kibbutz (annual pilgrimage to Uman, Ukraine) is a pretty big deal in both Israel and Ukraine. El_C 11:59, 6 March 2022 (UTC)- Sounds interesting, but was too busy yesterday. IWD today, so I decorated my talk showing two who didn't make it, one from Russia and one from Ukraine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Good stuff. Happy International Women's Day!
El_C 18:51, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you! Wrote the translation of Anna Korsun to German, and began Zofia Kilanowicz, for the occasion. Sang an extra song for peace in rehearsal. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:11, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Good stuff. Happy International Women's Day!
- Sounds interesting, but was too busy yesterday. IWD today, so I decorated my talk showing two who didn't make it, one from Russia and one from Ukraine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- See Nachman_of_Breslov#Teachings. Last bulletpoint:
- I don't remember - keep loosing my cameras. It's an excerpt of a larger pic, of course, and from the time when I joined Wikipedia. - No, not familiar, will perhaps look when dark. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:42, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
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I listened to the charity concert mentioned here (on radio, it was soon sold out), and created the articles of the composer and the soprano. Alto to follow today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:10, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
Do you think you could provide Psalm 92 (and then 14)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:19, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
- Nice. It's been a while since my last concert.
Those Psalms look dunzo'd. El_C 03:03, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- How to listen? El_C 05:09, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- To that concert? I don't know, there was a lot of recording going on, but I don't know if for the public. - To Prayer for Ukraine? - see article. To the Frankfurt concert? [4] - composer on the Main page now! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- sorry about not having looked "down" enough for the psalms - yesterday was 27, also "dun". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:35, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- DunZO! Yeah, the latest (I'm caught up with the rest), too badzo. El_C 16:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- St. Patrick's Day, more music and today's sunset no cow--Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- Nice sunset, still, though! BTW, we've moved past cows. We're doing sloth wizards now. Catch up with the lore! El_C 04:40, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
- on Bach's birthday: the places where I sang his Dona nobis pacem --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- Happy BachDay!
Wow, Evangelische Marktkirche in Wiesbaden looks like an intergalactic spaceship, with pillars. El_C 22:16, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- the place where Reger-Chor performed first --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:20, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- Very cool. It also looks like a spaceship from the outside, but with un-rounded corners. What a twist! El_C 22:26, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- the place where Reger-Chor performed first --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:20, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- Happy BachDay!
- on Bach's birthday: the places where I sang his Dona nobis pacem --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
- Nice sunset, still, though! BTW, we've moved past cows. We're doing sloth wizards now. Catch up with the lore! El_C 04:40, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
- St. Patrick's Day, more music and today's sunset no cow--Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:49, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
- DunZO! Yeah, the latest (I'm caught up with the rest), too badzo. El_C 16:33, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- How to listen? El_C 05:09, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
The Prayer is on the Main page, finally + new flowers, and btw: the TFA is a young writer's first --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:01, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Well done! That deserves flowers (of peace (against all odds)). El_C 12:48, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Bach's No. 1 today for illumination --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Very nice, can't go wrong with the classics (classics). Funk No. 1, for yesterday's exaltation (today). El_C 16:04, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- thank you ;) - back to Psalm 14, it looked done but looking closer, I don't get why Hebrew is shorter, and has a different beginning, and the explanation is that it's not the complete but some sort of difference. Can you check that please? - Prayer for Ukraine: I heard it as "encore" after a live opera performance from Staatsoper Hannover, sung and played with heart by the complete ensemble. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Sunday flowers and sounds, don't miss the extraordinary marriage of the beginnings of the theme of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1, and Prayer for Ukraine - here! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
Like. Congrats! You are a musical editing machine! In answer to your question: some of the Aramaic-derived Hebrew words combine nouns and verbs all in a single word. El_C 14:04, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- thank you, exquisite voice today, heard on 11 March --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- (unless you already do) please help watching the TFA Operation Mincemeat because the author is not active --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:34, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- I have virtually every major military engagement on my watchlist. But I haven't opened my watchlist in 2022 yet, so there's that. El_C 12:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not sure if I understand. I look at my watchlist about once per hour. You could just look at editing history every now and then, or do nothing. I wanted to write about an Israeli conductor today but came a feminist - the perfect topic for women's month. Her pic is on the Main page, and I learned a lot expanding. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Cool. Also, I love train conductors, too! RE: Watchlist, see: File:77,777.jpeg (btw, I've long surpassed 100K for some reason). El_C 13:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- now that's so funny: when I was about to pass 55.555 I decided that this was nonsense and began to reduce one by one, having reached 42k+ - this conductor leads an orchestra, but my grandfather was a train conductor --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Could you please do me a favour regarding Psalm 14: do the Hebrew in the normal fashion. What's there is a subset, has no verse numbers, - tricky. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:28, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Double cool! Also, I definitely agree with you: train, orchestra conductors — basically the same thing, interchangeable. El_C 13:31, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- What, never! El_C 13:31, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, I did the thing. El_C 13:41, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Cool. Also, I love train conductors, too! RE: Watchlist, see: File:77,777.jpeg (btw, I've long surpassed 100K for some reason). El_C 13:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Not sure if I understand. I look at my watchlist about once per hour. You could just look at editing history every now and then, or do nothing. I wanted to write about an Israeli conductor today but came a feminist - the perfect topic for women's month. Her pic is on the Main page, and I learned a lot expanding. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- I have virtually every major military engagement on my watchlist. But I haven't opened my watchlist in 2022 yet, so there's that. El_C 12:17, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Very nice, can't go wrong with the classics (classics). Funk No. 1, for yesterday's exaltation (today). El_C 16:04, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Bach's No. 1 today for illumination --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
Thanks re Myanmar
[edit]Hi El C, I know it was a while ago but I want to thank you for your patience with me on the Myanmar articles. I have a tendency to get flustered when coming under attack, so I made some mistakes when that happened with some new editors who happened to be from Myanmar. I have a lot of sympathy for their situation, though. I edit in that area because it's one of the most backwards regimes in the world but that gets very little attention. Anyway, thanks and happy holidays. 25stargeneral (talk) 18:23, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry for the belated reply, 25stargeneral, and thank you for your kind words, it means a lot. Happy hollidays to you, too!
El_C 17:17, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'm currently watching the top gear special in Myanmar. Happy Holidays El_C! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:19, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Happy Holidays to you, as well, my friend!
El_C 17:21, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Happy Holidays to you, as well, my friend!
- Hi I am back with a new name! I'm planning on focusing my work going forward more on content creation. I regret being at times insensitive in my approach to other editors in the Myanmar area, so I just wanted to ask, if you happen to notice me editing in a less-than-collaborative way, could you please give me a nudge in the right direction, even if it doesn't rise to anything actionable? I would greatly appreciate it. I will go through the normal channels from now on if there is something that I believe needs admin attention. TEMPO156 (talk) 18:54, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm currently watching the top gear special in Myanmar. Happy Holidays El_C! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:19, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
You've got mail!
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- A little bit strange for naive user. -Lemonaka 13:04, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
Merry Christmas!
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- Many thanks, SchroCat, merry Christmas and happy new year to you too! 🎅 El_C 08:48, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for the page protection, could you please restore the infobox image, the IP changed it right before you set the protection. Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 16:51, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- And you reverted 30 minutes prior to that. That's just the luck of the draw. El_C 17:00, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanx for supporting an editwaring IP. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:07, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- As opposed to an edit warring veteran editor? It takes two to edit war, and you do not get supremacy over an IP editor by virtue of being a veteran editor. So you can take your Wrong version complaint and sarcasm elsewhere. El_C 17:13, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'm done here, you prob now. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:24, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Works for me, even though I don't understand what is meant by
you prob now
(what is a "prob"?). El_C 17:28, 19 December 2023 (UTC)- I have tried to discuss this issue on the talk page, but I am met only with vague responses and rationalizations about why an obscure 1975 photo is somehow more appropriate. Instead user FlightTime seems to be giving off the feeling that he is superior and because "they said so" therefore the old photo must be sealed for eternity.
- Are we serving the public on Wikipedia or our own interests? What would actually be more recognizable for the general public, a more recent photo of Mr. Lear (of which there are many, again just look at google image results), or a cropped and not easily identifiable one that some users are stubbornly insisting be used? 2604:3D09:6A85:6000:AC47:C232:AFD7:7802 (talk) 18:50, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- I know you tried, IP. If you end up at an impasse on the talk page, you could always try seeking a Third opinion or even a more substantive Request for comment. HTH. El_C 18:54, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for your considerate responses. 2604:3D09:6A85:6000:AC47:C232:AFD7:7802 (talk) 19:21, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- What would be the process for Third Opinion or Request for Comment should it come to that? 2604:3D09:6A85:6000:AC47:C232:AFD7:7802 (talk) 19:35, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- I already linked it. El_C 19:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- I know you tried, IP. If you end up at an impasse on the talk page, you could always try seeking a Third opinion or even a more substantive Request for comment. HTH. El_C 18:54, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Works for me, even though I don't understand what is meant by
- I'm done here, you prob now. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:24, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- As opposed to an edit warring veteran editor? It takes two to edit war, and you do not get supremacy over an IP editor by virtue of being a veteran editor. So you can take your Wrong version complaint and sarcasm elsewhere. El_C 17:13, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thanx for supporting an editwaring IP. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:07, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Hi. The EEA page keeps attracting some unwanted attention for the last month or so. I see that you've protected the page once already. Would it be possible to do it again? Budsalone (talk) 12:23, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected for a period of 6 months, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. El_C 16:33, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Protection Saturday Night Live (season 49)
[edit]Looks like you put an extended autoconfirmed protection at Saturday Night Live (season 49) on the ground that it's related to the Arab-Israeli conflict because there was a minor edit war over whether to include the minor point that the role of Elise Stefanik in the Congressional hearing on Anti-semitism was originally given to Cecily Strong. I don't follow the logic.
The edit war had nothing to do with Anti-semitism per se, and absolutely nothing to do with the Arab-Israeli conflict. It should be noted that the article on the hearing in question is not protected at all. Please consider this a request to unprotect the article. Isabela ciao (talk) 17:06, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Isabela ciao, just because you fail to identify a connection does not make it absolutely this or that; nor am I interested in WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS whataboutism. That said, I'm not inherently opposed to unprotecting in a month or so, so feel free to remind me at that time. El_C 17:14, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
Which Indonesia-related articles that are extended protected?
[edit]Are there any Indonesia related articles on Wikipedia that are extended-protected? JustYourImaginaryGuy (talk) 01:46, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not sure, JustYourImaginaryGuy. El_C 12:21, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
2023–24 Canadian network television schedule
[edit]Can I get a temporary protection for 2023–24 Canadian network television schedule like was done with 2023–24 United States network television schedule? As the vandalism by 81.25.78.185 is still continuing. Xeditboy (talk) 22:33, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, Xeditboy, I don't have time to review this at present, so please feel free direct your request to WP:RFPP/I. El_C 12:19, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Request for creation-unprotection for the 'Ashton irwin' article
[edit]Can you please unprotect the 'Ashton irwin' article (with a lowercase 'i') from creation so I can create a redirect for it to the 'Ashton Irwin' article (with an uppercase 'I')? PK2 (talk) 03:50, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Done. Downgraded to WP:ECP from WP:FULL. El_C 12:18, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Restore indefinite semi
[edit]Hi, El_C, greetings of the new year! Can you please restore indef-semi at Vikram Sampath? Thanks, TrangaBellam (talk) 12:48, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Done. And thanks, same to you. El_C 12:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
2024
[edit]Same location pictured as 2019. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, all the best for the coming year. El_C 15:15, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! - The 2023 picture is from the Abel Fest in Köthen, celebrating the tercentenary of Carl Friedrich Abel, a viol virtuoso, composer and concert organiser in London (together with Bach's youngest son), born on 22 December 1723 in Köthen, where the new catalogue of his works was introduced, - my story today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:45, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- New pics, those cows again - click Year and go to bottom. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:43, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- I have a DYK, but my story would be different, about Figaro, - this Figaro. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:04, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
- On the Main page: the person who made the pictured festival possible --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:28, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
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- I remember Ewa Podleś on the Main page, and the performance of Anna Nekhames, the article in which a reviewer found nothing interesting. Yesterday: Shalom chaverim. On vacation, - check places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nicely done! Thanks for the updates. Hope you enjoy your vacation, and do I even need to say, take lot's of pics?
El_C 20:48, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, enjoying, taking tons of pictured, 23 chosen for 23 Jan, 6 uploaded, too tired for more - on my talk you see that it's the birthday of Mozart and our conductor ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:57, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
- Today a friend's birthday, with related music and a few new vacation pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Nicely done! Thanks for the updates. Hope you enjoy your vacation, and do I even need to say, take lot's of pics?
- I remember Ewa Podleś on the Main page, and the performance of Anna Nekhames, the article in which a reviewer found nothing interesting. Yesterday: Shalom chaverim. On vacation, - check places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:46, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Could you please have a look into this?
[edit]Hi @El C
A user yesterday has made personal attacks against me aggressively, I brought the issue to the notice of administrators, one user happened to advice the user to strike out their personal comments on me, they still haven't done that. If possible, could you please look into this issue? -Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Aggressive attacks for starting a discussion on an article's talk page | Removal of template
Thank you :) Thewikizoomer (talk) 09:33, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thewikizoomer, it looks like another admin is already attending to it, so I'm not sure what there is for me to do right now... El_C 09:40, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ok @El C
- I wasn't aware that another admin is attending it.
- Thank you for your quick response :) Thewikizoomer (talk) 09:42, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Sure np, Thewikizoomer. Yeah, you replied to him 3 minutes before posting here. El_C 09:53, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Hey, long time no chat!
[edit]Hi El C! Do you know what's up with Jeremy Dewitte as of late? Outside of his arrest in 2022, I haven't heard anything... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:13, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hey. No, no idea. Maybe he's finally staying outta trouble (unlikely). Good to see you, though. Don't be a stranger! El_C 17:08, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
Follow up on disruptive LTA
[edit]A while back I made this post on ANI regarding a long term disruptive user-[5].
Unfortunately they're back at it again with their trolling and nonsense with two different ranges-this 93.36 range and this 93.32 range. Look at some of his most recent edits-[6] + [7] + [8]. I was hoping these two ranges could also be blocked for persistent vandalism. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 21:01, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. I take it this was resolved at ANI...? El_C 17:08, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, unfortunately the user is back again with a different range. I filed a report at ANI but if you could look into it that would be great-[9]. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 16:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Southasianhistorian8, sorry, what is the link? El_C 22:18, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, unfortunately the user is back again with a different range. I filed a report at ANI but if you could look into it that would be great-[9]. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 16:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
FYI
[edit]Hello, El C,
Regarding Indie soul, just a reminder that when you draftify an article from main space to Draft space, the remaining redirect needs to be deleted as a CSD R2. You can either delete it yourself or tag it for speedy deletion and an admin who patrols CSD categories can take care of it.
Thanks and have an awesome weekend! It's going to be frigid here in the Northwest U.S.. Liz Read! Talk! 02:58, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I forgot. But will do, thanks for the reminder. Hope you have a great weekend, too, Liz. Keep warm!
El_C 03:04, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Block of ASmallMapleLeaf
[edit]I believe this is quite an inappropriate block since blocks are preventative and not punitive. With the specific incivility and personal attacks aside, I don't see a reason for why they would continue to be disruptive outside that specific instance. I would have agreed more if a temporary block was issued at that time instead. What do you think? 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 05:22, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Also, on the 7th edit crux you mentioned at their talk page, I think getting involved in administrative noticeboards while the account is new isn't an issue in and of itself. Well, they aren't new to our WP:P&Gs, but I don't see that as a reason to believe that they would cause further disruption. Though I don't see it as necessary, a namespace block from WP/WT instead of a full indef would have been less BITE-y. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 05:36, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree. I think that being as abrasive (as presented in the extensive evidence) by seemingly starting an aggressive anti-UNBLOCKABLES mission in one's 7th edit is what's inappropriate. And I continue to challenge that, absent an explanation, it is suspect. But feel free to take to the matter a wider forum. El_C 06:22, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- As well, I believe that your position—presenting this user in the same breath as both new (i.e.
BITE-y
) and an experienced user (i.e.aren't new to our WP:P&Gs
)—is both inconsistent and sets a bad standard. About the conduct and direction from new-not-new users. El_C 06:30, 13 January 2024 (UTC)- A little bit inconsistent, I would agree, but knowing how to cite policies and guidelines doesn't mean they are not a new user. From the comments they have made it doesn't appear to me that they have the same style of argument experienced users make. Perhaps they picked up some of the experienced-isque elements from reading internal discussions and policy pages, but they still appear new to me. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 06:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- I've started a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrative action review#Block of ASmallMapleLeaf (hopefully that venue isn't dead) 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 06:43, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- Copy that. El_C 06:56, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- They've now asked to be unblocked on their talk page. What are your thoughts on it? 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 03:22, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
- Copy that. El_C 06:56, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
- As well, I believe that your position—presenting this user in the same breath as both new (i.e.
January 2024
[edit] This is your only warning; if you constructively do admin tasks again, like you did at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, you may be given a barnstar without further warning. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 14:46, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
Overhumility
[edit]People whose English is inelegant don't use the word "inelegant". ―Mandruss ☎ 22:46, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- We request the pleasure of your company for a free exchange of ideas. El_C 22:57, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- Homer Simpson: one of history's great philosophers. ―Mandruss ☎ 23:00, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
The two intermediate IP edits from 194.125.77.219 should probably be revdel'd as well, because they currently allow some of the problematic changes to be seen. - Sumanuil. (talk to me) 05:00, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Got it. Thanks Sumanuil. El_C 05:03, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Revert Reason
[edit]Hi, El_C,
Just wanted to clear it up, the reason I reverted here [10] was not because it wasn't an inline citation, it was because of WP:RSPSIMPLEFLYING where an RfC came to the consensus that SimpleFlying is not a reliable source and should not be used in articles. Just wanted to clear that up.
Thanks! VenFlyer98 (talk) 05:58, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- This was already settled by the time you've written the above, VenFlyer98. Can we move on? El_C 17:51, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- I wasn’t trying to start anything again, I was literally just explaining myself since you initially responded that the source was good and wanted to make sure my reasoning was understood. Was just explaining myself, I already moved on…
- Have a good one. VenFlyer98 (talk) 19:11, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- You started by explaining to the IP how to cite inline, so I thought that meant you viewed their source as good. Otherwise why would you open with that and not with: 'sorry, it's a bad source, but if you have a good one, you do is this way'? So, yeah, I missed the second part, WP:RSPSIMPLEFLYING, which probably read like gibberish to me late last night. Coastie43's quoting it in full (with words), Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#SimpleFlying — that by contrast was immediately readable to me. Anyway, this entire conversation just seems so needless. But no biggie. See ya. El_C 20:09, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
January 2024
[edit] There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. SwiftFan2024 (talk) 19:41, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- @SwiftFan2024: left a note there, though that report was already closed. But you could have asked me about it at any time, and I'd have explained why semi was chosen over pc (or any other protection level). Oh well. Well, now you know. El_C 04:33, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
February music
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My calendar story today is about Michael Herrmann celebrating his birthday. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Today I am happy about a singer on the Main page (at least for the first hours), after TFA the same day last year. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:24, 7 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks to Seiji Ozawa. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:46, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
- I applaud your efforts. Another legend gone. R.I.P. El_C 21:43, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. - I put some effort now into the article for Ladislav Burlas, marked ready last day WP:ITNN. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:54, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nice, yeah for sure. That page was already
Posted, though. TTYS. El_C 04:08, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for trying! - The image, taken on a cemetery last year after the funeral of a distant but dear family member, commemorates today, with thanks for their achievements, four subjects mentioned on the Main page and Vami_IV, a friend here. Listen to music by Tchaikovsky (an article where one of the four is pictured), sung by today's subject (whose performance on stage I enjoyed two days ago). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:02, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
- Listen to music from Ukraine if you like, - I heard it in 2022, and the November concert (at a different church) raised a truckload of winter clothes. My story today is also from my life: I heard the singer in 3 of the 4 mentioned musical items. I sang in yesterday's. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:32, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- Will do, thanks for the recommend. I'm away for a bit, but hopefully will be back in a few weeks. Talk to you then. All the best, El_C 16:25, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- more music and flowers on Rossini's rare birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nice, yeah for sure. That page was already
- Thank you. - I put some effort now into the article for Ladislav Burlas, marked ready last day WP:ITNN. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:54, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
Turkey
[edit]Прошу снизить уровень защиты страницы. Making signs (talk) 17:53, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
Ivan Katchanovski's deletion
[edit]Deletion review for Ivan Katchanovski
[edit]An editor has asked for a deletion review of Ivan Katchanovski. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Alaexis¿question? 13:11, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- You usually go straight to DRV without discussion, Alaexis? That's a thing that you do? El_C 18:21, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- This is the first deletion review I've initiated in a long time (possibly ever). I didn't notice the instructions which are under the 15-item list of cases in which DRV should and shouldn't be used. Will definitely do this next time. Cheers! Alaexis¿question? 22:06, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- I see. Please note, though, that this is a general maxim (of WP:CLOSECHALLENGE) that goes beyond the realm of deletion discussions. And it's just common sense, because I could have made the arguments that the two participants have made in the DRV discussion (both endorse) right here, you could have responded, etc. But you never gave such discussion a chance. The reasoning is that I might have convinced you of my position, thus, you could have spared the extra work for the folks at DRV. HTH. El_C 22:14, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
- This is the first deletion review I've initiated in a long time (possibly ever). I didn't notice the instructions which are under the 15-item list of cases in which DRV should and shouldn't be used. Will definitely do this next time. Cheers! Alaexis¿question? 22:06, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Spam-only accounts, cont'd
[edit]Hi El C, a couple of days ago you blocked two spammer accounts that I reported to ANI. Well today they are back again under a new name, 'Bharatbarsha'. Could you have a look at it? Thanks in advance! — AP 499D25 (talk) 13:42, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Blocked indefinitely. Lucky, you got me right as I'm out the door. TTYS. El_C 13:44, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
The edit summary of CapnJackSps latest 4 reverts might also need to be redacted. Nobody (talk) 06:16, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Damn, I thought I got em all.
Done. Thank you! El_C 06:20, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
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--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:18, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
About your comment on ANI
[edit]I saw your response on ANI. I probably should have clarified, but when I said about bringing your block of Bobak to XRV, I meant you yourself bringing it there if you were concerned it would be against consensus (Which as of now it is not). I am aware my suggestion could have come accross as 'anyone can/should bring it to XRV', which was not what I was attempting to state and definitely not attempting or encouraging others to do so.
I sincerely apologise. ASmallMapleLeaf (talk) 16:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I see. But no need to apologize, though I appreciate it. It's just a rather obscure venue that is used seldom and not many know about. Take care. El_C 16:36, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Also, in my pre-coffee state, I might have conflated you with A smart kitten, who was actively involved in that discussion (you were of course the user whose block was being reviewed there at the time) — shh, don't tell anyone! El_C 16:46, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Apology for reverting good faith edits
[edit]@El C You reverted my edits here a while ago, and I did not notice until now. I thought that IP was subtly vandalizing, but I have now just realized that I misread the sentence multiple times and did not realize that IP was trying to fix a grammatical error. I apologize for the foolish edits I made and am sorry for the inconvenience.
Thank you, ItsCheck (talk) 00:27, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, ItsCheck, but please make sure you learn from this, by double and triple checking your edits, and by treating any given IP editor in good faith until proven otherwise. Because obviously changing "married with two children" into "married to two children" in a biography of a living person is a very serious violation. Thanks for reaching out. El_C 16:22, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Of course. I thought it was the other way around, so that is why I did it. ItsCheck (talk) 23:33, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
Conflict of interest management: Case opened
[edit]Hello El C,
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management/Evidence. Please add your evidence by March 20, 2024, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conflict of interest management/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration.
For the Arbitration Committee,
~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:03, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
Question
[edit]In regards to your response on my request for page protection how would you recommend I go about initiating a discussion with an IP user who's IP is different every time they edit? skarz (talk) 17:13, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- On the article talk page, which stays the same regardless. El_C 17:53, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- What I'm saying is doesn't it seem pointless to attempt to communicate with an individual who's sole purpose is to return to an account and revert my edit, each time from a different IP? Or perhaps it's a group of people since the IPs are in fact unique? skarz (talk) 18:29, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know about any of that (not mentioned at the protection request), but what I do know is that the article talk page has not been meaningfully used by anyone since 2016. HTH. El_C 18:52, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- What I'm saying is doesn't it seem pointless to attempt to communicate with an individual who's sole purpose is to return to an account and revert my edit, each time from a different IP? Or perhaps it's a group of people since the IPs are in fact unique? skarz (talk) 18:29, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
Being Fired Upon Over Contributions
[edit]Hi
I could really use your input at ANI: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents "Editor Lau737 "contributions."
Best regards Lau737 (talk) 11:27, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
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![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/Agapornis_fischeri_-_pair_2.jpg/299px-Agapornis_fischeri_-_pair_2.jpg)
- A blast from the past! (circa 2002). El_C 08:40, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Longing for Home (circa 2008). El_C 11:34, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- For when just plain Distractions are afoot. El_C 16:54, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Spinning over simple things. El_C 08:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Lyrics:
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(Intro)
(Verse one)
(Chorus)
(Outro)
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Memories of Spain
- Chick and Hiromi my 2p. regards. -Roxy the sycamore. wooF 16:20, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Resting: a compilation
The return of Remix surfing
- Face to Face (masks save lives) — El_C 13:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Air
Water
Fall songspam
- Money Trees (original) → Sembari Edit → DJ Dahi & DJ Rahki: Sample masters — El_C 20:19, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
- Enemy → (Worlds 2021 version → Radio edit → Orchestral/instrumental) → Guns for Hire → Goodbye — El_C 10:39, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- Everywhere at the End of Time (Nexpo 4-min summary) → Full album (6.5 hours) — El_C 02:14, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
- Every Day Is Exactly the Same (Acoustic cover) → Sam Fog vs. Carlos D Mix — El_C 12:00, 17 December 2021 (UTC)
- Sunny (Papik w Wendy Lewis) → Francesco Cofano Remix → w Peter De Girolamo (instrumental) → Bobby Hebb original — El_C 10:24, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
- The Hanukkah Waltz →Christmas Oratorio (BVW 248 #41, Aria (tenor)) — El_C 14:15, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- Secret of the Forest (Flite) → Jordan Chin → Contraband Reloaded → Kara Comparetto — El_C 07:06, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Decisions (AM Intro) → You Could Be (ft. George Riley) → Quest Select (AM Outro) — El_C 15:32, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
- Kiss from a Rose (Heidi Jutras) → Joe McBride → Trinití → David Simmons, Jr. — El_C 16:00, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
- In Memory Of Elizabeth Reed (acoustic, live 1992) → Studio version → Fillmore East, 1971 — El_C 15:58, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
And the livin' is EZ
- Comfortably Numb (Sophie Lloyd) → Shorts shorts (shorts) ←Shut up, me! — El_C 00:57, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
- Children Say → La Mer → Sound Of Blue → People Have A Right Of Pursuing Happiness — El_C 14:23, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
- Ready To Freak → When Are You Gonna Tell Your Woman (About Me)? / Sign of the Times — El_C 16:11, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
Falleaves
A Hazy Shade of Winter
Spring springs
Twenty Twenty Four
Bright Purity — El_C 15:24, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
My Star — El_C 21:21, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
Xiaoyu Stage → Xiaoyu Carnival (Quick Mix) — El_C 18:36, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Balatro — El_C 06:24, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- Chris Hedges: "The Meaning of Christmas" (December 27, 2020). El_C 23:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ordinary Things: "The Evil Business of 2021" (December 31, 2021). El_C 14:21, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
Ordinary Things: "The Bankrupt Business of 2022" (December 31, 2022). El_C 01:32, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, everyone, with very few exceptions, I will not be accepting any new requests for administrative intervention on my talk page for the foreseeable future. In the meantime, enjoy the music! El_C 18:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
- Now also introducing Buck Flower, security guard (challenging times ahead!). El_C 12:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
- So much good music! River Man in particular is always a favourite of mine. Jr8825 • Talk 19:02, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
- Now also introducing Buck Flower, security guard (challenging times ahead!). El_C 12:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
March flowers
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in memory of the birthday of a friend who showed me art such as this --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:18, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
... and the premiere of Nabucco - I always wanted to go to that theatre where Idomeneo premiered, and they played Mozart! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:10, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
- Booksellers let's go! El_C 18:24, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
- Especially booksellers who give a peace prize. I was there when Amoz Oz reveived it. - Rossini's Petite messe solennelle was premiered on 14 March 1864, - when I listen to the desolate Agnus Dei I think of Vami_IV. Dona nobis pacem - give us peace. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
- ♬♫♪♩ Very nice. That rendition of the Little solemn Mass really took me places. ♩♪♫♬
El_C 05:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- love to hear that! - vacation pics uploaded (back home), at least the first day, - and Aribert Reimann remembered. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Some days later, a calf in the mist (for you to pet) and chocolate cake, and a story of collaboration --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
- ♬♫♪♩ Very nice. That rendition of the Little solemn Mass really took me places. ♩♪♫♬
- Especially booksellers who give a peace prize. I was there when Amoz Oz reveived it. - Rossini's Petite messe solennelle was premiered on 14 March 1864, - when I listen to the desolate Agnus Dei I think of Vami_IV. Dona nobis pacem - give us peace. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:26, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
How to request recusals
[edit]El C one day I'd like to better understand what caused your loss of trust in Arbcom because that has been apparent to me for quite some time. For now though I thought I would point you to where the policy for how to request recusals lives. Barkeep49 (talk) 10:29, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Could you reduce the protection level on this page? The problem-causing user has been indeffed and I’d like to be able to edit the article. Dronebogus (talk) 01:40, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- Before making substantive edits, I'd recommend taking a good look at the talk page discussions, including those concerning a proposed new draft. AndyTheGrump (talk) 02:26, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
- In any case, the protection has now expired. El_C 20:47, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Arbcom appeal for SwissArmyGuy
[edit]Just like I did this before, but I have to appeal SwissArmyGuy (talk · contribs) for wrongdoing, instead of email at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1034#User:SwissArmyGuy keeps asking for my social media accounts and refuses to tell me why. But I opted Kingerikthesecond for asking their social media accounts, but it is cogent and coherent answers to a number of questions. Recently but I have to do something right, and please let me appeal as a clean start. 95.73.84.105 (talk) 16:43, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- Do not mention me or talk to me ever again. I want nothing to do with you. --KingErikII (Talk page) 16:45, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) SwissArmyGuy, El C's block was taken over by the Arbitration Committee. You need to email them if you want to appeal; it cannot be made onwiki or towards El C. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 16:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Not even the ArbCom can do this as the account is globally locked; they will need to appeal to stewards@wikimedia.org. Black Kite (talk) 09:18, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
Notification of arbitration enforcement sanction
[edit]There is an arbitration enforcement discussion at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Interstellarity concerning you. If you wish to comment, you may comment there. Interstellarity (talk) 12:48, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
Not just black and white!
[edit]Thanks for defending my yellowness there :) "They call him Mellow Yellow"... ——Serial Number 54129 18:17, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- There can only be one. Don't Eat the Yellow Snow! El_C 18:19, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
My Declined Requests At RFPP
[edit]You declined 4/5 of my RFPP requests? Why? You said "Pages are not protected preemptively" but GS/RUSUKR says "If a page (other than a "Talk:" page) mostly or entirely relates to the topic area, broadly construed, this restriction is preferably enforced through extended confirmed protection," and "Only extended-confirmed editors may make edits related to the topic area".@El C Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 00:12, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Me Da Wikipedian: per WP:PREEMPTIVE, there needs to be recent issues before protecting. The last edit in one of the pages you nominated was 9 months ago, so that is quite
Stale. El_C 00:35, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- Would this qualify? @El C Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 00:41, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- How about this@El C Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 00:43, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Me Da Wikipedian: those would not. We're looking for days or a couple of weeks at most. For the most part, anything that's in the weeks or months would not qualify. El_C 00:52, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- If added 3 more requests do those work @El C Me Da Wikipedian (talk) 20:51, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Me Da Wikipedian: those would not. We're looking for days or a couple of weeks at most. For the most part, anything that's in the weeks or months would not qualify. El_C 00:52, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Help needed
[edit]Hello El C, having some problems here. I wanted to remedy my mistake (missing }}, but apparantly there is the new link to about.com which I never made. Would you be so kind as to take a closer look ? Thank you ever so much. Cheers Lotje (talk) 12:33, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. Not sure, not seeing any relevant new filters or new additions to the blacklist (local or global). Maybe ask at WP:VPT or WP:EFN. Should have some more tech-inclined folks than myself who can shed light on this. HTH. El_C 17:58, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Rationale for extending extended-confirmed protection to the entire World Central Kitchen article?
[edit]Hi. I'm not very familiar with the custom of topic-based page protections. The policy states "all pages broadly related to a topic, as well as parts of other pages that are related to the topic". The page was already partially protected in regards to any information regarding the incident in Gaza, and there has been no vandalism.
Is this the norm of topic-based protections? E.g. it is not banned to edit the article Legality of conversion therapy because of the "gender-related contentious topics; or the biography of Wang Zhi'an merely because it contains information about him criticising Falun Gong. I was about to add some information regarding past World Central Kitchen responses to natural disasters. Y. Dongchen (talk) 01:53, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. First, protection that is WP:PREEMPTIVE is against the norms (not sure if that's clear to you). As for this arbitration-enforcement sanction regime (the WP:PIA topic area) its WP:ECR requirement is split into two types of affected pages: "primary articles," which represent a permanent and close connection to the topic area, and "related content", whose connection is temporary and/or lesser. But as for the examples you pointed to above, neither WP:ARBFLG nor WP:ARBGS feature the ECR requirement. Still, in a broader sense, if a dispute pertaining to any applicable topic area becomes acute on any page, that sanction regime could be invoked (and regardless if it's a community-authorized or Arbitration Committee-authorized one). HTH. El_C 02:54, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the information. So as I understand it from the WP:PIA page, you applied ECR as you deem World Central Kitchen to be a "primary article" under that regime? I would appreciate a confirmation. Thanks again for the explanation. Y. Dongchen (talk) 03:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- No, it's not primary, it's related, because that organization is active elsewhere in the world, like Ukraine. If it was only focused on its Gaza mission, then it would be deemed primary. El_C 03:36, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Ah okay. Then can you please remove the current form of protection which is applied to the entire page? The WP:PIA "area of conflict" is defined as
- 4) For the purposes of editing restrictions in the ARBPIA topic area, the "area of conflict" shall be defined as encompassing
- a. the entire set of articles whose topic relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly interpreted ("primary articles"), and
- b. edits relating to the Arab-Israeli conflict, to pages and discussions in all namespaces with the exception of userspace ("related content")
- if I understand it correctly. Y. Dongchen (talk) 04:02, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't follow. You don't provide a reasoning as to why I should "remove the current form of protection which is applied to the entire page," you just quote from that case. To what end? So, no, I don't think you understand it correctly, but I'm not sure if I can explain it better. El_C 04:14, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- According to the "ARBPIA general sanctions" – Extended confirmed restriction: The extended confirmed restriction is imposed on the area of conflict.
- Since you mentioned your rationale for the imposition of protection was that you deemed the article to contain related content, the general sanctions would not cover the imposition of whole-page protection. The related content was already explicitly protected as per the article talkpage. I am not an extended-confirmed user and I want to add information about past responses of WCK to natural disasters. Y. Dongchen (talk) 04:22, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- The only difference between primary and related is that WP:ECP isn't applied indefinitely for the latter. Because in the future that org may be in the news and experience active editing disputes about, say, Haiti, which is not currently deemed a contentious topic. But a page can only be protected in its entirety. I don't have discretion about the protection level itself. If you think you have a convincing case, you could request to get your WP:XC status expedited at WP:PERM#Extended confirmed, though. El_C 04:45, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- The "area of conflict" concept was introduced in WP:ARBPIA4 following confusion about Airbnb which included controversies regarding operation in West Bank settlements. So even though the article still contains the company's settlements controversy, the protection is not extended to the whole article. I might ask for a third opinion on this. Y. Dongchen (talk) 05:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Again, I'm not sure I follow. It's a standard action. But sure, maybe someone else can explain it better than I. The latest disputes at World Central Kitchen are related to the recent World Central Kitchen drone strikes (which I also protected, as it happens). Both actions have been logged at WP:AELOG/2024#PIA. HTH. El_C 05:25, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- The "area of conflict" concept was introduced in WP:ARBPIA4 following confusion about Airbnb which included controversies regarding operation in West Bank settlements. So even though the article still contains the company's settlements controversy, the protection is not extended to the whole article. I might ask for a third opinion on this. Y. Dongchen (talk) 05:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- The only difference between primary and related is that WP:ECP isn't applied indefinitely for the latter. Because in the future that org may be in the news and experience active editing disputes about, say, Haiti, which is not currently deemed a contentious topic. But a page can only be protected in its entirety. I don't have discretion about the protection level itself. If you think you have a convincing case, you could request to get your WP:XC status expedited at WP:PERM#Extended confirmed, though. El_C 04:45, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't follow. You don't provide a reasoning as to why I should "remove the current form of protection which is applied to the entire page," you just quote from that case. To what end? So, no, I don't think you understand it correctly, but I'm not sure if I can explain it better. El_C 04:14, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- No, it's not primary, it's related, because that organization is active elsewhere in the world, like Ukraine. If it was only focused on its Gaza mission, then it would be deemed primary. El_C 03:36, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the information. So as I understand it from the WP:PIA page, you applied ECR as you deem World Central Kitchen to be a "primary article" under that regime? I would appreciate a confirmation. Thanks again for the explanation. Y. Dongchen (talk) 03:12, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) Protection of any article related to the topic area, broadly construed, is permitted by the protection policy and the contentious topic procedures. In my experience, it is common practice to only temporarily protect pages which are only partially related. El C's protection was aligned with policy and practice. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 12:26, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Gavin Menzies
[edit]I got an email explaining it was a student project. ". Students were told explicitly not to vandalize articles, although we do not have the class time for students to learn what constitutes a good Wikipedia edit before they complete the assignment. I hope the disruption caused by the assignment was minimal—at the very least, it should inspire a future generation of Wikipedia editors." Doug Weller talk 13:18, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Doug, that's interesting and a bit unexpected, but I should emphasize that I approached this from a wider lense. As in the long term issues the page has experienced intermittently, resulting in multiple protections from 2010 to the present day. Usually, these protections have been in the months, but the last two were for one year each (2017-2018 and 2019-2020, respectively), so I went for 2 years this time. But next time that page experiences major problems, whatever that reason may be, I think that the protection should be set not to expire. Best, El_C 01:19, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
TFA
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I like to see Appalachian Spring on the Main page today (not by me, just interested and reviewed), and I also made it my story. - How do you like the statue (look up places)? - I was undecided so show three versions ;) - Did you "pet" the calf (see March)? Did I tell you that the psalms are now done in Hebrew, even with translations into English?? Thanks to someone tireless. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
The statue is of Hildegard of Bingen, and as it happens, her Physica is on the Main page today, and Marian Anderson as my top story (by NBC, 1939), and below (on my talk) three people with raised arms, - and the place is the cherry blossom in Frauenstein --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:56, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
plum tree blossom for Kalevi Kiviniemi in the snow - see my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Ballet in and of Appalachia — now I (haven't) seen it all! El_C 14:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- My story today is about a piece composed for the Second Sunday after Easter 300 years ago, about a shepherd, and then I saw plenty of sheep from the bike, and I just returned from a (long) opera about the same age, with soprano Pretty Yende. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:07, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- O' Euroland, where one could ride their
to the opera (which is to say, at all). El_C 07:01, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- relief: the last of six RD articles in one week is now on the Main page - yesterday a great recital with many anti-war songs by Jewish composers whose music banned by the Nazis. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:17, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
- images of a flock of sheep - some to pet - that I met by chance on the 300th birthday of cantata Du Hirte Israel, höre, BWV 104 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:40, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
- today a sad task - memory of Andrew Davis - turned into entertainment (yt at the bottom of his article, actually both) -- the latest pictures capture extreme weather --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:11, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- The juveniles' eyes — okay. But the adult one — how is that forward facing? 🐑 El_C 12:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- please help: when did I say "forward facing"? (my memory ...) - today you can look at the last three stories or "music" on my talk: the same topics, Youth Symphony Orchestra of Ukraine, Samuel Kummer and (pictured) one row of 8 double basses and another of 5 bassists ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- It was a rhetorical question to the sky! RIP Daniel Kern Manufacture d'Orgues. El_C 20:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- please help: when did I say "forward facing"? (my memory ...) - today you can look at the last three stories or "music" on my talk: the same topics, Youth Symphony Orchestra of Ukraine, Samuel Kummer and (pictured) one row of 8 double basses and another of 5 bassists ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
- The juveniles' eyes — okay. But the adult one — how is that forward facing? 🐑 El_C 12:24, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- O' Euroland, where one could ride their
- My story today is about a piece composed for the Second Sunday after Easter 300 years ago, about a shepherd, and then I saw plenty of sheep from the bike, and I just returned from a (long) opera about the same age, with soprano Pretty Yende. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:07, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
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Thanks for being so positive and active on the wiki, may you continue finding it rewarding and something you enjoy :3
— ♠ Ixtal ( T / C ) ⁂ Non nobis solum. ♠ 22:10, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Ixtal, that's very kind of you.
El_C 14:14, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Order of the Arrow
[edit]Would like a reference for "previously known as" - that change has not been made. I would be happy to help maintain this page. dugbrown 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, what is the question? Are you unable to edit Order of the Arrow, but would like to do so? Is that the issue? El_C 12:47, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes or would at least like a reference for the "Previously Known As" statement. @El C Doug (talk) 13:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not exactly sure what is meant by that (it's been many years since that article has even crossed my mind), but you should be good to go now. El_C 14:02, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yes or would at least like a reference for the "Previously Known As" statement. @El C Doug (talk) 13:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
User:Shoot for the Stars
[edit]FYI, on being unblocked this user has immediately re-created Elliott Rodger, which was redirected a significant time ago and was the subject of a number of discussions. Black Kite (talk) 07:27, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
- Belatedly: the page/redirect you linked to above has not been edited by anyone in years, so you lost me. El_C 11:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
You semi'd the page indefinitely, but you appear to have forgotten to reset the pending changes. With indef semi now in place, this obviously is not needed anymore. Lynch44 (talk) 00:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Got it. El_C 11:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Notification of ArbCom enforcement appeal
[edit]This is to inform you I appealed the topic ban you originally imposed in April 2022. The discussion can be found at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Anonimu. Anonimu (talk) 17:17, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- Your appeal is incomplete because it only links to a previously failed appeal, but not to anything I did (the original enforcement action). El_C 17:35, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Reverting the edit of Maratha Empire article
[edit]Hi, it appears that you recently reverted the article on the Maratha Empire to a previous version. However, the prior version indicated a date of 1758, not 1760. Additionally, other articles about historical empires include maps from when they were at their peak, so the map from 1758 would be accurate in this context. The statement "Maratha Empire at its peak in 1760" contradicts the earlier map date. The map from 1758 is available on Wikimedia That's why I edited the map of 1760 to 1758 because the description under it was wrong. Seems like Wikipedia editors are biased. Also, there is a talk section about this topic in that article but no one discussed before editing. 2402:8100:387D:609D:AC52:E91E:48D4:A649 (talk) 12:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- You have used multiple IPs to edit war that change, some of which while block evading, and you wonder why no one wishes to engage your brief yet confusing and poorly-written talk page comment from April 22? In this context, your
Seems like Wikipedia editors are biased
seems unsubstantive and falls short. There may be a language barrier that at this time is insurmountable. This is the English Wikipedia, which means that there is a requirement that one would be sufficiently competent in its use in order to communicate clearly. El_C 13:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Question
[edit]Hi El C, I just want to bump the question I asked you last month up at #Thanks re Myanmar. I thought maybe you didn't see it because I added it all the way up there. TEMPO156 (talk) 00:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hey. Sorry, I did indeed miss your comment at that time. In answer to your question: no, nothing recent comes to mind. HTH. Regards, El_C 04:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Can the Standoff at Eagle Pass be reduced in protection?
[edit]I believe you are the Wikipedia administrator who added Extended Confirmation Protection to Standoff at Eagle Pass. Can the protection for this page be reduced to semi-protected, due to the need for updates related to the topic (the banner has been there since February 2024) and the reduced news coverage and controversy about the event.
Side-note: I have extended confirmation protection editing power (500+ edits, more than 30 days). JohnAdams1800 (talk) 01:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- The protection overall is gonna expire soon'ish (July), but sure, sounds good (log update). El_C 04:22, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Siege of Szigetvár and Nikola IV Zrinski
[edit]HI El C. I made a couple of edits on Wikipedia. I think I'm right, maybe I'm not. Two users disagree with me, one from the Battle for Sigetvar, the other from Nikola IV Zrinski, but no one else. I think that unverified images with unknown authors have no place on Wikipedia. Then everyone can post unverified pictures with unknown authors. I think there must be a rule for that in wikipedia, maybe there isn't. So I would like your opinion on that. See my Wikipedia edits. Thank you. 78.2.236.99 (talk) 16:07, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. Yeah, sorry, I do think you're wrong here. Just because the 16th century author is unknown, doesn't mean the painting is "unverified." See https://en.mng.hu/artworks/34295 — I personally am inclined to trust the curators of the Hungarian National Gallery. But you can always bring any concerns or issue to the article talk page. That is where that discussion belongs. El_C 21:36, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for protecting those templates :)
[edit]For context, I was going through these and finding the ones with >5k transclusions that MusikBot hadn't yet upgraded to TPE. I started listing them at RFPP/I before it occurred to me that -- if I added them all in one set -- I might accidentally cause people to be annoyed with me for flooding the page. Having said that, if you don't mind protecting some more, would it be okay if I listed the remaining ones from that list with >5k transclusions here? (If you do mind, it's not a problem of course!)
All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 22:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, no worries, A smart kitten. Go for it. Regards, El_C 22:20, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks :)
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- (Courtesy ping MusikAnimal - there might be nothing wrong with the bot, but thought I should ping you just in case, due to the number of templates with >5k transclusions that MusikBot II hadn't yet upgraded the protection of.) All the best, —a smart kitten[meow] 23:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Done. Regards, El_C 23:58, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Happy Adminship Anniversary!
[edit]![]() | Happy adminship anniversary! Hi El C! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of your successful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:53, 1 May 2024 (UTC) | ![]() |
Reminder to vote now to select members of the first U4C
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Possible removal of semi-protection at Friendly's
[edit]I don't know if the vandal is still active or not, but regardless, I believe the time since the page was protected is long enough for them to not vandalize again. Could you remove the semi protection on the page? MessageApp (talk) 23:57, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Done. El_C 23:11, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
From what I’ve seen the game has declined in popularity, meaning it won’t be as much of a target for vandalism. Plus, edits on the page have even very infrequent and there hasn’t been much talk page vandalism. I suggest semi protection and maybe pending changes if semi is also overkill, but semi is probably the best thing to do for now. CharlieEdited (talk) 01:01, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
Done. El_C 23:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Also do the same thing at Yuri Lowell. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 13:31, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but for the most part, I prefer to only attend to such requests when they concern protections that I myself have imposed. I'd send you to that admin, but they are no longer one, so the venue to request that would be @WP:RFPP/D. HTH. El_C 17:59, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
- Also do the same thing at Yuri Lowell. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 13:31, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
Lower protection of Republican Party (United States)
[edit]The conversation has closed, with a consensus in favor of alphabetical order. Bettering the Wiki (talk) 21:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Protection was already lowered for that page on 22:22, 1 May 2024. El_C 23:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
You've got mail
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It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. at any time by removing the Doug Weller talk 07:18, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
UCLA protest articles extended confirmation
[edit]Hi, I am a prof at UCLA and user https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Kd9806 is my student (see userpage). The extended confirmation lock on the 2024 University of California, Los Angeles pro-Palestinian campus occupation is preventing her and many of my student editors who are newer but on the ground from contributing. Is it possible to make a case by case basis exception so some of them can edit? I assume you are an admin and have these privileges. Noopur28 (talk) 15:52, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. Briefly, requests to expedite the Extended confirmed tenure are made @Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Extended confirmed. Yes, any admin may grant or decline these requests. El_C 18:31, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- I made a request to reduce protection. Any chance you could review it in there? There's a backlog :) Noopur28 (talk) 18:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- That page has no backlog currently. It doesn't even have any outstanding requests. My sense is that you would need more experience to qualify. Sorry, I'm writing in haste. El_C 18:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I'm very busy, but Noopur28, I mentioned Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Extended confirmed, not a protection reduction. Regardless, no, I can't review it. The rule is that you gotta ask the protecting admin first, who is... *checking*... Daniel Case. But since this is a WP:PIA WP:ECR action, it's highly unlikely that that protection will be reduced. El_C 22:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- That page has no backlog currently. It doesn't even have any outstanding requests. My sense is that you would need more experience to qualify. Sorry, I'm writing in haste. El_C 18:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- I made a request to reduce protection. Any chance you could review it in there? There's a backlog :) Noopur28 (talk) 18:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
Request for remove edit lock
[edit]Please remove pp-30-500 Ahirwar Dhirendra Singh bundela (talk) 23:09, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, no, that's a WP:CASTE protection. A topic area under special consideration. El_C 23:16, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
May music
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On the bicentenary of Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, I remember our recent uplifting choral concert in pictures, on my user page and in my concerts (leading to the two at the church's article). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
Today is the Feast of the Ascension for which Bach composed his oratorio, - perhaps watch a bit how the closing movement was performed in Bach's church. The second piece in our program begins with first line from Psalm 80, which made us sing "Israel" often. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Magdalena Hinterdobler is on the Main page today, together with an opera that reviewers deemed not interesting and too obscure for our general readers. The soprano thought differently, - listen and see. - Also on the Main page: a TFA by sadly missed Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
did you listen and see? - today's story has a pic of a woman holding her cat, a DYK of 5 years ago - the recent pics show 2 orange tip butterflies --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:44, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- I enjoyed listening to Juliette Journaux for piano, thanks as always for the recommends! El_C 06:28, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- I liked her playing also, to the point. Today's story about Willi Brokmeier still needs support for RD. - "places" have goslings. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:01, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- 29 May 1913: The Rite of Spring - today's story - Brokmeier is on the Main page also --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:59, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Today's story is about Samuel Kummer, one of five items on the Main page - more musing on my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:59, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- last offer in May: photos of the river Rhine, and the adjacent Eltville rose garden, - high water and interesting weather --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:59, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
U&A Reversion
[edit]Hello. I saw that you were involved with the reversion of my post on the “Universities and Antisemitism” page, specifically about MIT. I was wondering if you could provide me with some clarification on why my edit was reverted. I see that this page is protected, meaning one would have to be above 500 edits, but I am curious about the comment on Palestine-Israel articles. I understand that that these incidents at MIT have been influenced by the I-P conflict, but is there a way I can acknowledge that fact without being in violation of these rules? I would really appreciate any suggestions that could improve to fit Wikipedia standards. Thank you so much! Topiguana (talk) 16:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. I actually was not involved in any reversions and know little to nothing about those. Rather, I protected the page (link) in response to a protection request (link). Unfortunately, since you lack the required tenure (the extended confirmed one of 30 days and 500 edits), you cannot presently edit the article due these restrictions (WP:ECR). Restrictions the Arbitration Committee has imposed on the WP:PIA topic area. In short, this was a procedural protection that aligns with these rules. Sorry I don't have better news for you. Regards, El_C 17:30, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- So, Topiguana, either you are able to reach to the WP:XC tenure (which must happen organically) so that the WP:30-500 threshold is met, or WP:ECR only permits you to participate as follows (quoting):
Non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace only to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided they are not disruptive
. El_C 17:37, 9 May 2024 (UTC)- This is super helpful, thanks so much! So sorry to make any false accusations, I was just looking at the edit history and wanted more information. Topiguana (talk) 18:21, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not at all, glad you found it informative.
All the best, El_C 19:15, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- Not at all, glad you found it informative.
- This is super helpful, thanks so much! So sorry to make any false accusations, I was just looking at the edit history and wanted more information. Topiguana (talk) 18:21, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
- So, Topiguana, either you are able to reach to the WP:XC tenure (which must happen organically) so that the WP:30-500 threshold is met, or WP:ECR only permits you to participate as follows (quoting):
Question from Clovermoss
[edit]Hi El C, I have a question. I noticed what you did here. I was kind of ambivalent on whether or not I should revoke talk page access but the idea of protecting the page itself didn't occur to me. Is it because of the sockpuppetry? I'm still getting the hang of nuance surrounding admin stuff and I try to use confusing situations as learning opportunities. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 10:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey. So I revoked TPA because this user continued spamming after being indeffed. Only after that did I notice that they also replied to their own spam as an IP for some reason (diff). So I also semiprotected, an action that, granted, renedres the TPA revocation moot. Anyway, since this is a spam-only account with less than 20 edits, my overall position is: who cares? Best wishes, El_C 10:28, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Can you admin delete an edit from page history
[edit]Some new (apparently agenda-driven) user has realised they can't edit most Israel-Palestine related articles and so has decided to hit related ones. While most of this can/has just been removed, this edit is, well, read it yourself. A paragraph ranting about Israel being justified. Absolutely not appropriate to be hosted by Wikipedia even just in edit history. Kingsif (talk) 11:12, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, in my view, that is not a suitable candidate for WP:REVDEL. But one's mileage may vary, so feel free to get a 2nd opinion. El_C 11:17, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm a little surprised that wikivoice apologism for what is accepted as at least war crimes isn't suitable for deletion, to be honest, but thank you for considering. Kingsif (talk) 11:24, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker)User:Kingsif, will tell me which section of Wikipedia:Revision deletion#Criteria for redaction you believe applies to the linked diff? Sorry User:El C for taking your space to ask the question. BusterD (talk) 16:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, no.2 - using wikivoice to present apologism for at least war crimes, seems to me as
Grossly insulting, degrading, or offensive material
. Regardless of whatever side of any particular conflict, any comment anywhere that tries justifying what are widely considered war crimes is just so out of line. - What makes it cross the line, for me, is the presentation of this comment in wikivoice as if it's authoritative. I mean, the content was not relevant at the article and had a poor source anyway, but say it was relevant and well-sourced, saying "organisations X and Y think..." is good. But not wikivoice saying it. And, beyond NPOV as I see it, there are likely to be some affected people who would take that as Wikipedia, as a large organisation, taking an offensive stance. Kingsif (talk) 16:56, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, no.2 - using wikivoice to present apologism for at least war crimes, seems to me as
- (talk page stalker)User:Kingsif, will tell me which section of Wikipedia:Revision deletion#Criteria for redaction you believe applies to the linked diff? Sorry User:El C for taking your space to ask the question. BusterD (talk) 16:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm a little surprised that wikivoice apologism for what is accepted as at least war crimes isn't suitable for deletion, to be honest, but thank you for considering. Kingsif (talk) 11:24, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Deleting my userpage?
[edit]Hullo El_C, long time no interact! Sorry to be a bother, but I'm writing this to ask if there's a way you or another administrator may "delete" my user page? Looking back, I'm quite uncomfortable with how I revealed both my general location and age in previous revisions (what happens when you're young, dumb, and very dumb!) and was wondering if there was a way for the edit history to be deleted? Or at least not publicly available for other contributors to see? Hope you're having a nice day, many thanks :) Sisuvia (talk) 07:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey Sisuvia, sorry I missed you. But it looks like someone else helped you with that request. Hope all is well. Yours, El_C 22:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
Allison McAtee article
[edit]@El C Hi, just thought I should let you know, the user you blocked from editing that article didn't waste any time making another account so they could keep removing information.[11] This time claiming it's a request from the actress. Which I highly doubt. Is is possible for you to prevent that page from being edited not only from accounts that haven't made many edits, but also from IPs since even if an editor gets blocked, they could also log out and make edits? Kcj5062 (talk) 23:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Got it. Thanks, Kcj5062. El_C 23:11, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Good News & Bad News
[edit]Hi. I just wanted to let you know that:
- Bad News: The "lulzsters" struck Tony Ferguson once again, despite a long history of protection settings in the page log. Can you protect the page for even a longer period?
- Good News: The coast is clear from little T the disambiguation page for a couple of years now. However, I could not chat with the protecting admin due to their prolonged inactivity on Wikipedia. Is it ok for you instead to reset pending changes?
In conclusion, sorry for disturbing you.197.2.14.219 (talk) 20:16, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. I don't know who
little T
is, but it looks like I protected Tony Ferguson back in 2022. It was protected by another admin earlier in 2024 (an admin who is active now, or was a few of hours ago, at least). Doesn't matter, I see that there's a lot of disruption to the page, so sure:Semi-protected for a period of 6 months, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. El_C 01:48, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much in advance! As for little T, it is currently pending-protected indefinitely. My concern is: there are barely any edits, whether anonymous or autoconfirmed, which defeats the purpose of protecting such disambiguation page beyond this point. Do you mind reseting pending changes?197.2.14.219 (talk) 01:59, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- No problem. Yeah, that's odd about that disambiguation page, but reset it to what end? It hasn't been edited in years, so I don't think it really matters. El_C 02:03, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much in advance! As for little T, it is currently pending-protected indefinitely. My concern is: there are barely any edits, whether anonymous or autoconfirmed, which defeats the purpose of protecting such disambiguation page beyond this point. Do you mind reseting pending changes?197.2.14.219 (talk) 01:59, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
Hi. Can you look after special:history/nickelodeon on CBS for a while? I once reverted an edit under another IP address but that revision persisted on coming back. At this point, I am uncertain who on earth is right. Furthermore, I am unwilling to get involved again to contribute for the time being due to excessive false accusations by this user for being a WP:SOCK of WP:LTA/TVFT (just because I showed up in WP:RFPP under the 197.[0/1/2/3]::/16 range and/or the 102.[156/157/158/159]::/16 range). Please keep an eye on the page history and decide which is best.197.3.236.189 (talk) 17:44, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hi again, IP. Unfortunately, I can't spare the time to investigate this, but ohnoitsjamie (this user) is an experienced admin, so you might wish to try to explain yourself better to him, or submit a query to WP:ANI if you truly believe it to be a legit (and intractable) problem. Sorry I couldn't be of more help, but here's hoping the matter gets resolved amicably. Regards, El_C 21:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- With the tone he uses to respond to my complaints or in his edit summaries:
- I don't think it is worth bringing such issue to WP:ANI. Plus, I am still unwilling to sign up. My only solution is to bear such situation and take a break (even for up to 3 months, one of my blocked former IP ranges).
- He may be one of the majority of, if not all, admins who would disbelieve how my editing behaviour differs from the telly vandal(s), aside from the IP ranges which I've mentioned earlier that I edit with (I don't literally hop from one range to another, it is just the poor quality of my internet connection which periodically disconnects, and that every reconnection comes with a different IP address under those IP ranges without the possibility of enforcing a static IP address).
- I don't blank notices on my talk pages.
- I leave edit summaries occassionally, including a period at the end.
- I may revert to my revision, but not to the extent of warring (User talk:197.3.156.48).
- Signed.197.3.236.189 (talk) 23:33, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Confused
[edit]Hi El C, What's the edit summary about? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:09, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hello. It is about you being mindful with your edits, as stated. El_C 06:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I just noticed the diffs. Sorry, there was no edit conflict warning when I published. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, these things happen. El_C 06:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, I just noticed the diffs. Sorry, there was no edit conflict warning when I published. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
MEK moderation
[edit]Hi El C: I know you stepped away from moderating MEK discussions, but I wonder if you are still considering this kind of work? If not, I'll note it and make sure I don't ping you again about this. If you are up for it, I'm workshopping an RFC in the talk page, and I would appreciate any uninvoved feedback to make it fair. Whatever the result is, I would like to avoid a "Bad RFC" outcome. Thank you. Best, MarioGom (talk) 14:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey Mario. I'm afraid that's a not. I helped establish WP:GS/IRANPOL so that I never have to do that again. But I wish you success in your efforts. Regards, El_C 15:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- Makes sense. Best, MarioGom (talk) 15:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
Care and feeding of bots
[edit]Hi El, A comment from the busybody in residence, regarding this bit of house keeping: the bot was only waiting for three requests to become eligible for archiving, which would have happened at 14:38 (UTC). The reason why it wasn't willing to do its chore before was the absence of a {{pagelinks}} at the top of the section. I added one, pro forma, a little while ago. Favonian (talk) 14:31, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Favonian. I thought the bot had gained sentience and did that to fuck with me, but your explanation is better! El_C 16:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
My signature
[edit]I find this funny more than anything, but can you eleborate by what makes my signature being “jarring”? I would be up to redesigning it. I made it three years ago when I pretty much never edited. -1ctinus📝🗨 15:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not engaging with this. El_C 16:58, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
Laken Riley
[edit]Hello again! You and I had a brief discussion yesterday when I asked for an article about Laken Riley's killing to be semi-protected. It seems that even after the protection, multiple editors have been insistent on calling it a "murder", and one of them even moved the page to Murder of Laken Riley, in violation of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (violence and deaths). There is a discussion on the Talk page going on about this, and since you were involved in this area when you and I talked yesterday, I think the discussion on the Talk page could use your valuable input. Thank you. Gottagotospace (talk) 12:56, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, I see it's now been moved back. I'm gonna move-protect it momentarily (WP:RM only) so as at to remove all temptation. El_C 21:43, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! If you'd like to contribute, I think your input on the language used on the rest of the page could benefit from your input as well (since I changed a few instances of the word "murder" to other things, but that got reverted by someone else). We're discussing it on the Talk page. Gottagotospace (talk) 22:01, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, but sorry, no time. El_C 22:03, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- No worries! I figured I might as well ask, but I understand. Gottagotospace (talk) 22:06, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, but sorry, no time. El_C 22:03, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! If you'd like to contribute, I think your input on the language used on the rest of the page could benefit from your input as well (since I changed a few instances of the word "murder" to other things, but that got reverted by someone else). We're discussing it on the Talk page. Gottagotospace (talk) 22:01, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
Paula Vennells - FP
[edit]Hi El_C. There is no reason given on the article talk page (or anywhere else I can see that justifies the Full Protection). It is a controversial subject article, but that in itself, does not warrant full protection. I understood that a rationale for article full protection on the talk page or elsewhere is required? Can you please review or add something to the TP? Leaky caldron (talk) 21:02, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- The protection notice can be viewed at the following RfPP diff. The reason should be self-explanatory: an edit war between like 8 users. Sorry, I can't spare the time today for an additional note, but feel free to link my answer here if you think it might help. El_C 21:42, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- I disagree that the disruption meets the criteria for full protection. There is next to no current activity on the article or talk page. The participant you mentioned has not recently contributed. I think if you are willing, it would be appropriate to review the protection in light of the narrow area of dispute and current limited level of disruption. Thanks. Leaky caldron (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- I count nearly 20 reverts in the 2 days alone prior to my full protection, so, no, that makes no sense and is wholly divorced from the facts. Obviously,
current
would not include the 2 days that it's been fully-protected since, when no one could edit the page aside from admins (fulfilling edit requests) and bots (with sysop permissions). I honestly am at a loss here. El_C 07:34, 27 May 2024 (UTC)- RE:
The participant you mentioned has not recently contributed
— I didn't mention any participants, but if you mean the requestor of that protection request, they did indeed edit (revert) the article recently, less than an hour prior to my protecting it. And their revert itself was reverted 6 minutes later (9:22-9:28), which is a bit longer than the 4 minutes between reverts prior to these (9:18-9:22).- Diff: 9:22, 25 May 2024 Gaia Octavia Agrippa (talk | contribs | block) Reverted 1 edit by Localhistorian2024 (talk): WP:NPOV
- Diff: 9:28, 25 May 2024 Localhistorian2024 (talk | contribs | block) The London Gazette has stated... [etc.]
- Diff: 10:11, 25 May 2024 El C (talk | contribs | block) Protected "Paula Vennells": Edit warring / content dispute ([Edit=Require administrator access] (expires 14:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)) [Move=Require administrator access] (expires 14:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)))
- So obviously the facts align with my description rather than your own. Facts which are provable and easily verifiable (per directly above). El_C 08:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- RE:
- I count nearly 20 reverts in the 2 days alone prior to my full protection, so, no, that makes no sense and is wholly divorced from the facts. Obviously,
- I disagree that the disruption meets the criteria for full protection. There is next to no current activity on the article or talk page. The participant you mentioned has not recently contributed. I think if you are willing, it would be appropriate to review the protection in light of the narrow area of dispute and current limited level of disruption. Thanks. Leaky caldron (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
Lowering Protection Level on Ebrahim Raisi
[edit]Hi EL_C. I was wondering when you will lower the protection level on Ebrahim Raisi since it is no longer a highly visible page. ImTheAvidPheasant (talk) 13:54, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey.
Done, thanks for the reminder. Still, noting as of earlier today it is no longer listed at WP:ITN. So that's keeping it pretty tight, but I think it's probably fine (unless famous last jinx). El_C 14:31, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Hello! On March 31, 2023, you semi-protected Indictment of Donald Trump (now a redirect) under WP:AP2. This then went to New York Indictment of Donald Trump (redirect), then First indictment of Donald Trump (redirect), then Prosecution of Donald Trump in New York, and back then forth again with New York Indictment of Donald Trump to remain at the current title. As it has been over a year since the original sanction, I would like to ask if you would be willing to reconsider the page protection placed upon the page (and by extension the other pages listed). EggRoll97 (talk) 02:35, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Unprotected. Regards, El_C 18:14, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
Revdel request Mexico
[edit]Hello! Do you mind if I ask for a revdel on this abominably sexist edit: [12] on 2024 Mexican general election? The offending user has been warned on talk by someone but I have doubts on whether the warning was serious enough. I was also considering page protection but the edit seems to occur every three weeks or so, so the request might not be granted. Thanks! Borgenland (talk) 03:18, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Done. Regards, El_C 18:16, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
June music
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Today's story is about the TFA, by sadly missed Vami_IV. In my support in 2018, I hoped to do justice to Schloss Köthen next - which I will begin today, finally, promised. Its Bachsaal was pictured to begin the year. For more related thoughts and music, look on my talk for 1 June. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
Franz Kafka died 100 years ago OTD, hence the story. I uploaded a few pics from the visit of Graham87. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:30, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Today's story is about a tune used by Bach and Mozart, and Bach's text is base on Psalm 12. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:56, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Today is "the day" for James Joyce, also for Bach's fourth chorale cantata, based on a hymn based on Psalm 6 (and why does it come before the third?) - the new pics have a mammal I had to look up. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:04, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
- Says Nutria, but maybe Muskrat? Groundhog? Capybara? Also, when the last time you've read Ulysses cover to cover? El_C 13:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I looked at the other two, and groundhog (high mountains) and capybara (much bigger) are out. The habitat described in nutria matched where I saw it, right next to the river, in the middle of town btw, and ignoring me. - Joyce: never. Tough enough for native English speakers. I read what Graham Waterhouse set to music ("Bulbulone" from Finnegans Wake, "Arise" from Chamber Music, #14, "Buzzard" again from Finnegans Wake), who was also inspired by today's birthday child. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:25, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- A river in the middle of town? What town was this again? *** Yeah, understandable, no doubt a tough read. I personally am not a fan. El_C 13:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Geilnau lies along the Lahn, northern side, and the trail is along the Lahn, and where I saw the animal was in the middle of the trail, well, yes, there's a little park on the other side of the trail. The road to Geilnau is a dead-end, which makes the valley quiet, with the train tracks in a tunnel in a distance. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Either Nutria or Muskrat, then. All four are originally from the Americas, but those two were introduced into Eurasia. Capybara (which was a joke nomination) is South America only, while Groundhog—see my petting one at the top of this talk page (though maybe it's actually a Muskrat!)—is North America only. El_C 15:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- New pics of food and flowers come with the story of Noye's Fludde (premiered on 18 June), written by Brian Boulton. I nominated Éric Tappy because he died, and it needs support today! I nominated another women for GA in the Women in Green June run, - review welcome, and more noms planned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:25, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- The nom for Tappy has now a lot of support, but needs an admin to post it. Anybody looking here? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Today is a feast day for which Bach composed a chorale cantata in 1724 (and we had a DYK about it in 2012). Can't believe that Jodie Devos had to die, - don't miss her video from the Opéra-Comique at the end, - story to come. The weekend brought plenty of music sung (one based on Psalm 100 and one based on Psalm 96) and listened to, and some of it is reflected in the last two stories! + pics of good food with good company --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:04, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- the sad story today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:43, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Either Nutria or Muskrat, then. All four are originally from the Americas, but those two were introduced into Eurasia. Capybara (which was a joke nomination) is South America only, while Groundhog—see my petting one at the top of this talk page (though maybe it's actually a Muskrat!)—is North America only. El_C 15:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- Geilnau lies along the Lahn, northern side, and the trail is along the Lahn, and where I saw the animal was in the middle of the trail, well, yes, there's a little park on the other side of the trail. The road to Geilnau is a dead-end, which makes the valley quiet, with the train tracks in a tunnel in a distance. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- A river in the middle of town? What town was this again? *** Yeah, understandable, no doubt a tough read. I personally am not a fan. El_C 13:32, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- I looked at the other two, and groundhog (high mountains) and capybara (much bigger) are out. The habitat described in nutria matched where I saw it, right next to the river, in the middle of town btw, and ignoring me. - Joyce: never. Tough enough for native English speakers. I read what Graham Waterhouse set to music ("Bulbulone" from Finnegans Wake, "Arise" from Chamber Music, #14, "Buzzard" again from Finnegans Wake), who was also inspired by today's birthday child. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:25, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Jordan
[edit]Hello, I just noticed the Jordan article had been placed under indef ECP in April, could you please tell me why this was done? Noting that there was an ARBCOM ruling that stated the Jordan article does not fall under ARBPIA, and also that there was not much disruption to the article beyond a single week in April. Makeandtoss (talk) 14:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hey. So when attending to your protection request, I saw excessive ARBPIA editing (disruptive or otherwise) by non-WP:XC accounts. That's the reason. As for that 2018 AE discussion: for our immediate purposes, it's somewhat academic whether the protection defines Jordan as a primary article or as related content. There's also the issue of that page having been protected over 25 times prior. For the longer term, though, there could be a case to downgrade it to (indef) semi as related content only, say, in a few months from now. El_C 18:08, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
a very cute duck
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a very cute duck |
I just felt kind today ;P Daisytheduck (talk) 02:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC) |
- Thank you for the duck, Daisytheduck!
El_C 13:15, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
Subject
[edit]Thank you El_C for closing the (Botola) page due to repeated vandalism. if possible, close it in general from fake accounts. زكرياء نوير (talk) 12:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, glad I could help, زكرياء نوير. If further issues arise, feel free to relist at WP:RFPP/I or drop me a note here. El_C 13:16, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
- user:El_C The page has been vandalized again. Please close it permanently زكرياء نوير (talk) 00:29, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected for a period of 2 weeks, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Permanent protection often gets imposed after dozens of previous protection actions (of escalated durations) over the course of years had proven insufficient. So this page isn't a candidate for that at this time, I'm afraid, since this is only its second protection. El_C 06:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's okay. I want you see it again in two weeks, to see if it was vandalized زكرياء نوير (talk) 12:25, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Honestly, I'm unlikely to remember unless given a reminder. But, again, feel free to drop me a line if there's further problems, and it'll be, I dunno, 2 months next, and many months after that. Unlike some admins, I don't usually allow a page to be protected tens of times before making it indef (permanent), but it still won't be twice or thrice from now. El_C 12:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- There is nothing wrong with making the page permanently protected if it is always vulnerable due to frequent modifications, thank you زكرياء نوير (talk) 12:51, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Requests for indef protections for pages of similar and even higher levels of disruption are extremely common, but the protection policy's ethos stresses exhausting all options, and within reason, going through the motions. Which I'm not really the biggest fan of, but I can't act by fiat contra that unless there's something truly egregious. El_C 12:59, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- There is nothing wrong with making the page permanently protected if it is always vulnerable due to frequent modifications, thank you زكرياء نوير (talk) 12:51, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Honestly, I'm unlikely to remember unless given a reminder. But, again, feel free to drop me a line if there's further problems, and it'll be, I dunno, 2 months next, and many months after that. Unlike some admins, I don't usually allow a page to be protected tens of times before making it indef (permanent), but it still won't be twice or thrice from now. El_C 12:46, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- It's okay. I want you see it again in two weeks, to see if it was vandalized زكرياء نوير (talk) 12:25, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- user:El_C The page has been vandalized again. Please close it permanently زكرياء نوير (talk) 00:29, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
Hiya, you asked for a reminder to restore the page's indef semi protection once the full protection lapses. Here you are! Boardwalk.Koi (talk) 14:47, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Beat me to it! :-) BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 15:04, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Done — thanks for the reminder, guys! El_C 00:38, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
My signature [2]
[edit]Thank you for reminding me to add my signature to my comments. Somehow, I forgot to do it in that ArbCom discussion because usually, when commenting on an article talk page, the website automatically provides our signature for us. I have just added the {{unsigned}} template to each of them. Thank you. 🙂 — Kaalakaa (talk) 23:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, thanks for following up. I didn't realize that was a thing, but that makes sense. Incidentally, some have taken umbrage to my is annoying reminder, but the truth is that I'm annoying about sigs in general. At least once monthly, seemingly. Oh well. Regards, El_C 00:34, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
Edit request
[edit]Hello. You semi protected the page on the 2024 Dagestan attack for a number of days, and its talk page is also semi-protected.
Previously, consistent with the wp norm, the first line of that article began contained bolded language. In this case, saying:
- "On 23 June 2024, the 2024 Dagestan attack took place, when coordinated terrorist attacks were launched ..."
That has now been changed. It now says "On 23 June 2024, coordinated terrorist attacks were launched ..." There is no bolded language in the lede, matching the title. And I cannot fix that, or ask on the article talk page that it be fixed, as those pages are semi-protected.
Can you please restore the former format, consistent with out norms across the project?
I leave my request here as I am unable to do so on the article talk page, given that it has been semi-protected. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:78CD:917F:7124:8DC3 (talk) 03:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi. Sorry, I'm precluded from doing that due to WP:UNINVOLVED. You can submit that request to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Edit, though. HTH. El_C 04:48, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Request renewing a block for persistent BATTLEGROUND
[edit]I'd rather not go through ANI all over again when an editor immediately returned to the behavior that got them blocked there previously. In short, Elinruby has continued their personal attacks and other BATTLEGROUND tactics across multiple discussions both on- and off-Wiki since their most recent block. When I reverted a removal of content on 2021 Canadian church burnings, they
- Twice again removed the content
- Initiated a talk page discussion mischaracterizing me as claiming Portland is in Canada, a false statement they repeated on their talk page
- Opened a discussion at WP:NPOVN only 15 minutes after discussion began on the article talk page, but used such a non-neutral statement that it had to be reverted
- Began a further eight different talk sections on the article talk page
- Wrote
crickets
when I didn't have time to immediately respond, following up with this when I finally had a moment to begin catching up
They've also taken to posting numerous discussions at NPOVN and RSN recently, including at least one where they admitted to not even reading the source they were reporting (I didn't actually check the text
). Another editor has also recently complained regarding Elinruby's behavior. I request you restore the block with an escalated duration. ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:55, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Pass! Sorry, at this time above all else, I can't commit to the follow ups, certainly if blocking was determined the correct course of action. So noticeboard does seem like your best bet (such as it is, but what can you do?). El_C 09:03, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Derby Subj
[edit]Hi El_C this Casablanca derby needs to be closed after the continuous destruction, thank you. Ji Soôo97 (talk) 01:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
July music
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The story is today about the first published composition by Arnold Schönberg which I was blessed to hear. Listen, and perhaps read what Alma Mahler (to-be-Mahler at the time, to be precise, who was present at the first performance) said, and yes that was too much for the Main page ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Today's story is about a Bach cantata premiered 300 years ago OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:28, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
3 July is the birthday of Leoš Janáček, and I'm happy I had a meaningful DYK in 2021. It's also the birthday of Franz Kafka, and I uploaded pics from his family's album seen in Berlin. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
Libuše Domanínská, the subject of yesterday's story, would have turned 100 today, but I missed that ;) - Overnight, Tamara Milashkina became GA and Lando Bartolini went to the Main page. I made my story about his almost unbelievable career, from Luigi in Il tabarro in Philadelphia in 1968 (with a nod to Liberty) up to Calaf in Turandot in Beijing in 1999 ;) - 4 July is also the birthday of Brian Boulton who was a pioneer of a concise infobox in 2013. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Pictured on the Main page: Brian's Mozart family grand tour, my story today, and Mozart related to all three items of music on my talk: our 2023 concert, an opera in a theatre where a Mozart premiere took place, and those remembered, Martti Wallén, a bass, and Liana Isakadze, a violinist from Georgia, (whose article would be better with more details about her music-making). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:05, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Found a bit more. Today's story is about her, an outstanding violinist from Georgia, which is a sad story in the end. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
My story today is - because of the anniversary of the premiere OTD in 1782 - about Die Entführung aus dem Serail, opera by Mozart, while yesterday's was - because of the TFA - about Les contes d'Hoffmann, opera by Offenbach, - so 3 times Mozart again if you click on "music" ;) - and a small deer pictured in the new pics --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Today's story is Hevenu shalom aleichem, in honour of the friend from Israel whose birthday is today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
Today's story is about a photographer who took iconic pictures, especially View from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Manhattan, 9/11, yesterday's was a great mezzo, and on Thursday we watched a sublime ballerina. If that's not enough my talk offers the chamber music from two amazing concerts. The latest pics have a juxtaposition of cattle (moving their ears at a wild speed) and their meat on a plate - a bit cruel perhaps. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:55, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
... and today's story begins with Psalm 124, paraphrased in 1524, and put to five (!) chorale settings in 1724, for this Sunday. Nominated for GA. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:36, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Remove protection from Big N' Tasty
[edit]I see no reason for the page to continue being protected since there is no controversy or anything surrounding it unlike with some other food items. Plus, edits are so infrequent that protection is most likely useless. Maybe if vandalism returns there could be some pending changes or maybe semi, but there’s no way a 5-year-long ECP is worth it anymore. CharlieEdited (talk) 01:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- It was an LTA years-long obsession (not just with this page) rather than real-world controversy or incident. Anyway
Unprotected. El_C 06:05, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Remove protection
[edit]Hi ELC, After opened the page Botola after you closed it for a week, it was vandalized again. Can you close it permanently. 160.177.131.79 (talk) 14:30, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Profile syntax
[edit]Hello! I'm cleaning up various pages with tracked syntax errors and ran across your userpage this evening. Wondered if you'd be willing to update it with these changes to correct the misnested and obsolete tag issues? If these meet your approval, you can copy the entirety (minus the first two lines) here for simplicity. Best wishes, and hope you are staying cool this hot summer! Zinnober9 (talk) 05:36, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
Done — thank you for your diligence. Best, El_C 09:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
List of highest grossing films protection
[edit]Hi, I asked you a question here, but I don't know if you saw the ping, can you give back to the page the EC protection? Thanks. Today another edit was reverted to a registered user--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 17:05, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hey. No, I didn't see it, but you should not edit archives (from a year ago and in general), since those discussions are no longer live. Sorry, but a single user (now blocked) is not enough for WP:ECP that would effect many. And I don't have the time to look into this in depth, sort of in-the-blind, as I don't remember much about this page a year ago. El_C 18:56, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- But it is not only a user, I told you about also in December 2023, there are many reverted edits from registered users, you can see some of them here, but there are another without the tag. Since the user that asked you to reduce the protection didn't know anything about the page situation, I think that is pretty unfair, for months me, Betty Logan and other users have to revert many edits because of that, so maybe you can put back the ECP even without knowing the page too much, like that user did in September 2023, if you "accepted" that request from a user that doesn't follow, doesn't edit and doesn't know the page, you can trust me, one of the main contributor, when I say that the page still needs the ECP, thanks--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 19:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, let's see what Betty Logan says (I see you've notified her of this). Sorry, I've protected many hundreds of pages since then, so again, I simply do not recall any of these details. El_C 20:04, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- There is currently an underlying issue with Box-Office Mojo double-counting re-release grosses. This has led to many editors "correcting" figures to incorrect values. These edits are carried out entirely in good faith, but they do generally come from newer, more inexperienced editors who are not familiar with the issue. We are tracking the problem at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Film_finance_task_force#Box_Office_Mojo which most of the regular Film project editors are familiar with. I think extending the protection would probably help. It would mean that new/inexperienced editors would need to request the change on the talk page where the problem could be explained to them (if applicable). I don't think it would be detrimental to updating the article because it has several dedicated editors from a wide geographic span. Betty Logan (talk) 10:03, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
Done — thank you both. El_C 15:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- There is currently an underlying issue with Box-Office Mojo double-counting re-release grosses. This has led to many editors "correcting" figures to incorrect values. These edits are carried out entirely in good faith, but they do generally come from newer, more inexperienced editors who are not familiar with the issue. We are tracking the problem at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Film/Film_finance_task_force#Box_Office_Mojo which most of the regular Film project editors are familiar with. I think extending the protection would probably help. It would mean that new/inexperienced editors would need to request the change on the talk page where the problem could be explained to them (if applicable). I don't think it would be detrimental to updating the article because it has several dedicated editors from a wide geographic span. Betty Logan (talk) 10:03, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, let's see what Betty Logan says (I see you've notified her of this). Sorry, I've protected many hundreds of pages since then, so again, I simply do not recall any of these details. El_C 20:04, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- But it is not only a user, I told you about also in December 2023, there are many reverted edits from registered users, you can see some of them here, but there are another without the tag. Since the user that asked you to reduce the protection didn't know anything about the page situation, I think that is pretty unfair, for months me, Betty Logan and other users have to revert many edits because of that, so maybe you can put back the ECP even without knowing the page too much, like that user did in September 2023, if you "accepted" that request from a user that doesn't follow, doesn't edit and doesn't know the page, you can trust me, one of the main contributor, when I say that the page still needs the ECP, thanks--Luke Stark 96 (talk) 19:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
List of CNN Personnel vandal
[edit]Hey, El C!
A couple days ago you protected List of CNN personnel after an Israeli IP vandal engaged in several days of constant vandalism. Well, the protection is off and he's back. Would you mind taking look cat the situation and see what might be done? He's IP-hopping, so a range block, maybe? You know what's best. Thanks for any help! Drmargi (talk) 02:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
August music
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Today I have two "musicians" on the Main page, one is also the topic of my story, watch and listen, - I like today's especially because you see him at work, hear him talk about his work and the result of his work - rare! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
... and a third, like 22 July but with interview and the music to be played today --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:23, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
On 13 August, Bach's cantata was 300 years old, and the image one. The cantata is an extrordinary piece, using the chorale's text and famous melody more than others in the cycle. It's nice to have not only a recent death, but also this "birthday" on the Main page. And a rainbow in my places. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:54, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
... adding 4 animals from 30 July --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
IP vandalism again
[edit]Ip Special:Contributions/103.131.213.43 and Special:Contributions/103.131.212.131 are vandalizing movie pages by changing budget and boxoffice numbers. You blocked IP Special:Contributions/103.131.213.151 and all these IPs come from one person. I think a block on a range will be helpful. RangersRus (talk) 11:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Happy First Edit Day!
[edit]![]() | Happy First Edit Day! Hi El C! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you made your first edit and became a Wikipedian! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 07:01, 9 August 2024 (UTC) | ![]() |
Invitation to join the Twenty Year Society
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Dear El C,
I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Twenty Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for twenty years or more.
Best regards, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 07:02, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
— The Herald (Benison) (talk) 07:02, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
Unblocking from editing
[edit]Why did you unblock me from editing? Countscarter (talk) 03:34, 14 August 2024 (UTC)