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Public image of Mother Teresa

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Started as a WP:POVFORK [1] and since then it has changed quite a bit but it never really improved. This article is not about her public image, which is overwhelmingly positive, (and not a notable topic which does not pass WP:GNG), it is about certain criticisms of her. For some reason the article got moved [2]. Criticism should be in the main article and this POVFORK should be removed. Polygnotus (talk) 19:07, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Pbritti: COI users are allowed to have an opinion (even those who disagree with me ). See WP:COIEDIT and WP:COIADVICE. Do you know any reliable sources that are about her public image and not her as a person? Do you think it is a good idea that all criticism was removed from the article about her and moved to this, far more obscure, article? And that, possibly as a result of the move from Criticism of... to Public image of..., the criticism got hidden even further down the page? Polygnotus (talk) 02:00, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your encouragement to discussion! Perusing JSTOR, I'm finding some pieces like this. Generally, they come from the late 1990s and are heaving on the sociology (not necessarily bad, especially in a subjective subject). I have objections over centering criticisms like Hitchens's on her biographical article—one of a few significant marks against his legacy—but generally agree that we need to exercise caution in any diminishment of sustained and impactful criticism. ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:15, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is interesting to see how some people are overly cautious with anything approaching COI while others... are not. ;-) Of course, the criticism comes not just from Hitchens. People like Aroup Chatterjee and Tariq Ali and Mihir Bose and even people who worked for her like Hemley Gonzalez and Susan Shields et cetera have famously criticized her work. There are a lot of very important people who said very positive things about her; let's be fair and balance that out with some of the criticism. MLK jr got a criticism section. You can probably write a criticism section for Ghandi. I am quoting myself, and when I wrote that the Mother Teresa article still had a criticism section. No matter what happens here, the criticism will return anyway. It never left, despite attempts to hide it. Polygnotus (talk) 02:25, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pbritti: sorry I forgot to ping. Polygnotus (talk) 02:26, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Critics say grossly inadequate medical care was given to the sick and dying. Syringes were reused without sterilisation, pain relief was non-existent or negligible, and conditions were unhygienic. Meanwhile, Mother Teresa spent much of her time travelling around the world in a private plane to meet political leaders. -- The Guardian. Polygnotus (talk) 03:18, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at WP:SIZESPLIT, over 9000 words means "Probably should be divided or trimmed". The main article currently got only 5000 words. I flipped it around. If it would be fair then that shouldn't matter, right? But it does cause it isn't.
Finally, how competent are the sisters at managing pain? On a short visit, I could not judge the power of the spiritual approach, but I was disturbed to learn the formulary includes no strong analgesics. Along with the neglect of diagnosis, the lack of good analgesia marks Mother Teresa's approach as clearly separate from the hospice movement. I know which I prefer.' Robin Fox, editor of The Lancet from 1990 to 1995. PMID: 7818649 DOI: 10.1016/s0140-6736(94)92353-1 Polygnotus (talk) 09:08, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gurukripa Career Institute

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The institute is a coaching centre for the preparation of competitive exams, not an government approved educational establishment. It does not meet WP:NSCHOOL. See WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Also several new SPAs are engaged in suspicious editing this page. They have even tried to manipulate the List of institutions of higher education in Rajasthan by creating a new section for "Coaching institutes" and adding this coaching centre, which is not an appropriate category. Charlie (talk) 11:12, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep: Yes, there was some promotional content in this article, but I believe deletion is not the solution. I have visited this institute, and many others visit it as well. However, there is no proper source that provides accurate information about this institute. Therefore, I think we should add correct and reliable information instead of deleting it. This way, it will help people find the right information about the institute, which has a large number of students. Every year, many students try to get information about this institute, but they struggle to find reliable and proper sources.
Sandeep Kumar Kajla (talk) 12:20, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the students can't find any sources, and you can't find sources, that indicates this isn't a notable institution. Oaktree b (talk) 15:26, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep : I think we should keep this article as it will reflect the truth of coaching industry.
Mike20008 (talk) 12:22, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Deletion is not in order here. The article provides a good beginning for information on a major institute. With an update using credible and accurate data, we can do much better to serve the needs of interested individuals. Semsuineas.wiki (talk) 12:34, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Charlie, I think you've read the List of Institutions of Higher Education in Rajasthan properly. At the top, some private engineering colleges are mentioned, and their pages have also been published. Therefore, I don't believe we can't add private institutes.
Mike20008 (talk) 12:43, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: Removing the article is not a solution. The institute is very important to a lot of students. By re-writing with known and verified information, we could offer a valuable page to those looking for correct information.
Maggidi (talk) 13:14, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CharlieMehta, I do not want to get caught in this controversy but would like to say one thing that instead of deleting, everyone should try to improve, because even today there are many articles which are not correct and the recent information is also not updated, so more focus should be kept on improving. Let's all decide together whether to keep it or not @Maggidi, @Mike20008, @Paul W, @Semsuineas.wiki, @Skajlajjn1996, @Timtrent
Thanks Devidafrica.villager (talk) 14:20, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vidhi (2023 film)

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Recently 123telugu was declared unreliable by the Indian cinema taskforce. Given that Indiaglitz is also considered unreliable, there are no reliable reviews (had there been at least 1, I would have let this slide). There was a FilmyFocus review on the page but that is also likely non notable (all unreliable sources can't be listed there). Given that the fact that the longest source is an interview from 123telugu, this film has no notability.

The TV9 Telugu source is a small snippet only mentioned that Vishwak Sen was invited for the film's launch while the NTV source mentions where the film is streaming. All in all, the only notable reliable source is the NTV source [3], which isn't enough to keep an entire Wikipedia article of a 2023 film. This isn't even a pre Internet film.

P. S. I had tried my best to improve the film's sourcing to no avail. DareshMohan (talk) 07:25, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kaalam Raasina Kathalu

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Fails WP:NFILM. The film was moved to draft but recreated by another IP (likely the same person -- since it ia low budget film, WP:COI?)

The reason it was moved to draft is that all sources relate to Akash Puri releasing the film's trailer. This article shouldn't exist because the entire article is banking on the effect of Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Film#Marketing.

This source shows Akash Puri being given flowers beforing watching the film's trailer on a laptop [4]. How is any of this notable?

Regarding Bru Times, the source is obviously unreliable and a compilation of many sources. Although you may think it is a review, it says Upon its release, "Kaalam Raasina Kathalu" received critical acclaim for its storytelling, direction, and performances. Critics praised the film for its nuanced portrayal of complex human emotions and the depth of its characters.

If you want to know wheter Bru Times is reliable read another review like [5], ("has been praised", etc.) prove it is unreliable. DareshMohan (talk) 07:57, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sinduria (caste)

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This article is copied from Chitraguptavanshi Kayastha and it has been mixed with two castes i.e. Bania and Kayastha. Both are different castes. Kayastha are considered higher and forward and they are unrelated to Bania. Moreover, the article is an orphan as well as completely uncited! TheProEditor11 (talk) 04:34, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daman and Diu Police

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Daman and Diu Police is now merged with Dadra and Nagar Haveli and Daman and Diu Police. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 02:34, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Swaroop Puranik

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Doesn't meet WP:NDIRECTOR or WP:FILMMAKER. Awarded or recognised by the governor doesn't highly show any impact tones career and fails WP:ANYBIO. While we expect to see notable films he directed, there appears bit promotional and likely COI creation.

Citing unreliable sources (WP:REFBOMB for a non notable film, Journey of a Queen, shows no WP:SIGCOV for his major work, hence doesn't meet WP:GNG. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 23:42, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the promotional content from this article now its clear Dgtrox (talk) 19:49, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mor Chhainha Bhuinya

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A non notable films that doesn't meet WP:NFILM. No existence of WP:SIGCOV, and likewise, the remake. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:59, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi,
Keep kindly understand that 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' was 1st film to be made in local chhattisgarhi language in over 30 yrs. so no one believed in this movie to have successful run, as such there was virtually any coverage. but after its release thanks to word of mouth publicity the film became a blockbuster leaving behind 'Mohabatein' and 'Mission Kashmir' in the state. Today this film has acquired a cult status as it gave birth to Chhollywood, an entirely new film industry in the state. Remember 'Andaz Apna Apna' despite huge star cast the film was declared massive flop but today it has gained a cult status. As such wiki page on 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' too deserves a page in wikipedia. Whatever sources that have been added are the only sources available online besides youtube (which is not accepted here). Most importanly this page is the most complete and well prepared page on this movie unlike previous attempts. As such 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' wikipedia page should be kept. If anyone can help improve it they are welcome. Bonadart (talk) 07:11, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi, Ednabrenze kindly understand that 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' was 1st film to be made in local chhattisgarhi language in over 30 yrs. so no one believed in this movie to have successful run, as such there was virtually any coverage. but after its release thanks to word of mouth publicity the film became a blockbuster leaving behind 'Mohabatein' and 'Mission Kashmir' in the state. Today this film has acquired a cult status as it gave birth to Chhollywood, an entirely new film industry in the state. Note that local media doesnt focus on Chhollywood, as such chhattisgarhi language films barely find mention. Remember 'Andaz Apna Apna', a wiki page on 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya' too deserves a page in wikipedia. youtube has lot of info, but not accepted here. Most importantly this page is the most complete and well prepared page on this movie unlike previous attempts. If anyone can help improve it they are welcome. Bonadart (talk) 07:22, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, sorry but you cannot !vote twice. Kindly remove one of your two "Keep"s in bold, please -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:34, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
hi actually i was giving a reply i will correct it Bonadart (talk) 09:59, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:04, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the analysis but keeping an article here solely depends on the number of reliable sources that could be used to verify claims made in the article. I am not from that state and I would not know the historical background of the film but if there had been enough RS sources I would not have supported deletion. Ednabrenze (talk) 03:27, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
solely depends on the number of reliable sources, yes and no, it also depends on what they say and if one reliable source proves the film is important in the local culture that can be considered a sufficient reason to keep the page. At least, that is my understanding. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:37, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2

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Doesn't meet WP:NFILM. There aren't significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:54, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi
Keep Note that local media doesnt focus on Chhollywood, as such chhattisgarhi language films barely find any mention except youtube, which is not accepted here. But it doesnt dampen people's interest in Chhattisgarhi film. Note Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2 is the biggest and highest grossing film in last few years in Chhollywood and its theatrical run was longer than Kalki 2898. Also the 'Mor Chhainha Bhuinya 2' wikipage is well structured and complete page created using whatever sources available. Also note it is an important film in Chhollywood that has been a trend setter for sequals. If anyone can help improve it they are welcome. Bonadart (talk) 07:41, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sudheendra Venkatesh

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG. Working as a PR officer doesn't merit a Wikipedia article since there is no WP:SIGCOV. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 21:02, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi
There is a article " Diamond Babu ". He too is a PRO in Tamil Film Industry. Sudheerbs (talk) 10:38, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cezar D'Mello

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG. I searched for sources but couldn't find any WP:SIGCOV in multiple independent reliable sources. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:23, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chindia

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Could be made a sentence or two on China–India relations, without its own article. At present it's largely just describing China–India relations and is a WP:DEFINITION page. It doesn't qualify as WP:WORDISSUBJECT. seefooddiet (talk) 21:13, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Very selective merge/redirect to China–India relations. Here is a source I found about the subject:
    1. Thussu, Daya Kishan (2014-11-10). "De-Americanising Media Studies and the Rise of "Chindia"". Javnost—The Public, Journal of the European Institute for Communication and Culture. Taylor & Francis. doi:10.1080/13183222.2013.11009126.

      The article notes: "The Other Globalisation: China+India = Chindia. What is the bilateral relationship between the world’s two ancient civilisations, with the largest populations and fastest growing economies? Jairam Ramesh, political analyst and currently India’s Rural Development Minister, is credited with coining the term “Chindia,” a phenomenon representing what has been termed as the “rise of the rest” in a “post-American world” (Ramesh 2005; Zakaria 2008). The idea of this neologism seems to be catching on; a Google search for the word “Chindia” shows more than 800,000 hits. Any meaningful discussion of global media research ought to take into account the rapid growth of these two large nations with their potential to influence the emerging global scene."

      The article notes: "Can the growth of media and communication studies in Chindia contribute to broadening research concerns and agendas in this relatively new fi eld? Conforming to the social sciences more generally, research in the media and communication arena too has been traditionally influenced by what Edward Said has shown as a Eurocentric essentialism of thought, where the “other” was imagined or created as part of an ideological discourse, privileging European imperialist epistemology (Said 1978). ..."

    The source notes that "Chindia" is a neologism created by Jairam Ramesh. It may be possible to write an article about the "Chindia" neologism" but this article is not it as it focuses on Chinese–India relations and relies on sources that briefly mention "Chindia" without discussing it in detail.

    I recommend a redirect to China–India relations with a mention that "Chindia" is a neologism created by Ramesh. I support a merge, not a redirect, because aside from a mention in the "See also" section, China–India relations currently does not mention "Chindia" in the body of the article.

    No prejudice against recreating the article if one that does not violate Wikipedia:No original research and does not duplicate China–India relations can be created.

    Cunard (talk) 10:38, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Man Dhaga Dhaga Jodte Nava

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Outside of the SOCKing, the series is not notable. References are non-bylined snippets and churnalism or NEWSORGINDIA. CNMall41 (talk) 17:09, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can you provide the reliable sources that show this? Also, I think the "we" in your edit summary is telling of this. You may want to go to that page and address the accusation directly. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:13, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Funhit Mein Jaari

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Fails WP:NTV and WP:GNG. M S Hassan 📬✍🏻 16:24, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

M. M. Akbar

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The person is not notable. The reference provided are only of some news, that too 'times of india' mentioning he is involved in a criminal case. His name itself came into the news just because he is accused involved in some criminal illegal activities. clearly fails natability. Also the references are arabnews and http://www.muhammmadnabi.info which is self published Aparamoorthy (talk) 13:47, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Premier Energies Limited

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The subject is receiving attention due to its recent IPO. Anyways, after searching for in-depth coverage from independent, reliable secondary sources, I was unable to find any. The cited sources are trivial, as per WP:ORGTRIV, and the subject does not meet the criteria outlined in WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. GrabUp - Talk 13:48, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edward Arthur Dodwell

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I have carried out WP:BEFORE for this article about a British man who was a senior police officer in India, and done what I can to improve the article. Sourcing is very poor, however - two brief mentions and a family announcement of his death. I think this passing mention of a Ted Dodwell is probably also him, but it doesn't give any further information to add to the article. I don't think he is notable under WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Tacyarg (talk) 16:25, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sana Sha

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Biography of an actor with no independent sources, and I am unable to find anything that would show notability. There is also no claim to notability per WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG. The article states that she had notable roles in Aatma The Revenge and Prema Hathiras, but there is no article about either of those movies. While we don't trust IMdB as a source , it can sometimes be used as at least an indication about the significance of a film or a particular part; according to IMdB, then, Aatma is a short film with no other people listed as cast or crew (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19496446/), while Prema Hathiras isn't even listed there, so nothing there to meet WP:NACTOR.

The article has been moved back and forth between mainspace and draftspace by its creator, and I'm not going to get into a move war trying to draftify it, when there is no indication it could become an article at this time. I think it is borderline speediable both as non-significant and as advertising, but maybe it's better to go through with an AfD.

bonadea contributions talk 13:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While I was writing the nomination, Ravensfire did what I should have done before nominating, and removed all the unsourced information. The claims I refer to above are visible in the article history. --bonadea contributions talk 13:43, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jasdeep Singh Gill

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Falls under WP:BLP1E, as the subject is notable for only one event. Also, all four sources appear to be part of a press release, as they were all published on the same date, 2 September 2024, mostly by news desks with similar content. – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:51, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tariq Hussain Keen

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Non-notable per WP:NPOL, a middle-ranking party bureaucrat and failed 2014 candidate. If he wins in this year's election he'd be notable, so the article was draftified once, but then immediately recreated in main space. The only coverage I could find in a WP:BEFORE search was routine coverage of his candidacy, and passing mentions. Wikishovel (talk) 07:47, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. Just a candidate of a party and two sources are poor with passing mention and others are unreliable. Fails WP:NPOL. The degree of significance of the subject and of role as politician is not enough to warrant a page on the subject. RangersRus (talk) 13:39, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kadambari Jethwani

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Just like previous AfD, no evidence support this individual's page meeting WP:GNG or WP:NACTOR. Currently, sources cover this person only in the context of a single event which is a sexual harassment case which is still under investigation WP:BLP1E. WP:TOOSOON. Charlie (talk) 17:22, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kollam Sailors

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Another non notable team in the Kerala Cricket League. 3 teams from this league are at a current AFD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alleppey Ripples, but this article was created in mainspace anyway- after being rejected at AFC. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

KDK College of Engineering

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WP:MILL institution. Fails WP:NSCHOOL. The sources that i could find are either primary, routine, or school/college databases. Recommend Redirect to Rashtrasant Tukadoji Maharaj Nagpur University. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 13:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect is a nice solution. Not notable college as stand-alone page. --Johnpaul2030 (talk) 11:51, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bhavnagar Terminus railway station

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Not much coverage beyond that available in database sites. recommend Redirect to Surendranagar–Bhavnagar line. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I have no doubt that the station is quite old (it is easy to see it mentioned in the 19th century books), but all my attempts to find RS for WP:V failed. In particular, the reference "Passenger Amenities Details ... Raildrishti" was a disaster (no information at all, just the promotional links, I had to remove it). Unless someone can point me to at least a short coherent text about the station, Redirect. There are tons of articles about Indian stations like that, all adorned by the links to Raildrishti.in. Викидим (talk) 19:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Response refers to other editors than me. AFDISNOTCLEANUP and articles should never be taken hostage if the references are not in the article. We have enough AfDs already. Rather, use the NEXIST and SOFIXIT approach. gidonb (talk) 22:14, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jama Masjid metro station

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Doesn't seem notable enough for its own article. Fails WP:GNG. Recommend Redirect to Violet Line (Delhi Metro). -MPGuy2824 (talk) 12:50, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Police Officers (film)

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Fails WP:NFILM, no WP:SIGCOV anywhere, no critical reception whatsoever. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 23:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Legends League Cricket

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Recreation of a deleted article following this AfD. Apparently because the wording and WP:REFBOMBS are different, it cannot be a G4 speedy... Non-notable, just as it was a month and a bit ago, with WP:REFBOMBS and no establishment of WP:GNG. Just because retired players are taking part, doesn't mean notability is inherited. Coverage within the refbombs is routine. AA (talk) 14:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Embassy of India, Ljubljana

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Previous attempt at redirect was opposed and previous PROD tag removed. No secondary sources. Promotional. Fails WP:GNG. Anything useful can be covered at India–Slovenia relations. AusLondonder (talk) 14:04, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Anjum Sharma

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WP:REFBOMB doesn't help matters and this draft doesn't meet WP:NACTOR. A recurring character in a film doesn't sometimes show notability. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:39, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not an essay it's a policy guideline as it states at top of the page, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:33, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, it is a guideline. As for If you really think trimming is the problem, then do it, that's asked so kindly, thank you, but I am not the one who sees an issue here. As for what the roles are, at least roles in the recurring cast in Mizapur and in the main cast of Sultan of Delhi. For the rest, the guideline is clear but I am not sure I understand what you say. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:55, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Indian engineering colleges before Independence

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This list has a finite boundary, which is a good thing, but I cannot see that this is a notable intersection. From that perspective I feel it fails WP:NLIST. At the very least it deserves the community's scrutiny. I feel the History section is valid. this, if the outcome is to delete I feel this shoudl be migrated, probably précised, in to a new article 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 16:08, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Battle of Anandpur (1703)

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This article has no references, and it's an incomplete stub, need I say more? Noorullah (talk) 16:44, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep: ~150 words of coverage here, ~250 words of coverage here, 7 paragraphs of coverage here (p. 112-114), and there is actually a lot more that I can't access on Google Books. C F A 💬 17:12, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @CFA One of the sources you cited from's author is not a historian, they don't follow WP:RS/WP:HISTRS and aren't scholarship.
    For example: Triloki Nath Dhar -- '...He graduated in science from Punjab in 1948 and received a degree in Indology from Sharda Peeth Research Centre, Srinagar, as approved by Dr Tuci of Rome." ... "...Mr Dhar is an author of short romances, tales, and collections of essays, as well, a theory of Cosmological Physics which he had included in a ‘romantic fiction’ novel which was apparently confirmed fourteen years later by a US space satellite’s discovery of a particularly massive cloud of gas and dust."
    Nath Dhar is not a historian, but an author.
    The other sources seem to check out however. Noorullah (talk) 20:56, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @CFA, I will comment on the Surjit Singh Gandhi source later after looking into it, but the third source you linked (from the Punjab Digital Library) does not actually make any sort of mention between a 1703 battle in Anandpur beyond "Hostilities again broke out in 1703 as the Guru had greatly increased his military strength and even extended his territory at the expense of the hill chiefs." From then on, the book's content is actually referring to this article [15], in which a joint siege by the Mughals and the hill chiefs compelled Gobind Singh to vacate Anandpur under allegedly false pretenses. It then goes to talk about this article's content-[16] and so and so forth. It's a bit confusing because some sources vary a bit in reporting the dates of battles, but rest assured the book's content (by Bakshish Singh Nijjar, p.112-114) is already covered on Wikipedia. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 05:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And as Noorullah mentioned, Triloki Nath Dhar's book is not a RS; it's a self published trade book by someone who has not authored any serious peer reviewed work-[17]. Southasianhistorian8 (talk) 05:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Embassy of India, Bratislava

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Based entirely on primary sources. No third party sources to meet WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 09:48, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Kerala Government Engineering Colleges

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This feels like a violation of WP:NOTDATABASE or WP:NOTCATALOG. It's just raw table no explaination whatsoever. This fails WP:NLIST per WP:LISTPURP.

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List of Maharashtra Government Engineering Colleges (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of Rajasthan Government Engineering Colleges (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
List of Maharashtra Government Polytechnic Colleges (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 06:34, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Harpal Dev Makwana

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This article is part of a WP:WALLEDGARDEN on the Jhala dynasty and Jhala (clan) created by a now-blocked sockmaster. The core sources for these articles are books of purported genealogy published by Jhala family descendants. This article takes someone who is almost certainly a legendary figure and launders the sources to present him as a historical person. He may have been, but the sources do not indicate that:

Bottom line: What WP:SIGCOV we have on Harpal Dev is legend repeated by WP:SPS and WP:COI sources. The independent coverage, such as it is, does not establish him as a historical figure. I know WP:DELETIONISNOTCLEANUP, but with such a compromised article I recommend WP:TNT instead of trying to battle an army of socks claiming legendary stories are real. Fails WP:V and WP:GNG for lack of SIGCOV in independent, reliable, secondary sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:35, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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List of deputy speakers of the Assam Legislative Assembly

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The subject of this list fails WP:NLIST. The only source is a WP:PRIMARYSOURCE and a WP:BEFORE search turns up no examples of this group of individuals discussed as a group. A category already exists for navigational purposes, but as a standalone list there's no evidence of sufficient notability. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:32, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Merge with List of speakers of the Assam Legislative Assembly. A not insigificant parliamentary role; would treat as a corollary of WP:NPOL. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 04:59, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I wouldn't have generally done that (not sure the deputy speaker office is notable; there's no page on it), but as a compromise AtD I would accept a merge as suggested. Dclemens1971 (talk) 12:39, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge per Goldsztajn. Categories and lists are not automatically redundant with each other — a list can provide the dates of a person's service in the role, while a category cannot, and a list can have references added to verify the information, while a category cannot, and a list can be ordered chronologically in order of service, while a category cannot — so lists are not automatically redundant with or duplicative of categories, since they organize the information in different ways.
    The sourcing is a problem, but it's within the realm of possibility that better sourcing could be added — I don't have access to the tools needed to find archived Indian media coverage myself, so I'm not the guy who could fix that, but somebody else with better access to the right resources might well be able to improve it.
    So really, the only relevant question here is whether this needs its own standalone list, or can just be a subsection of the main list of speakers, and with inadequate sourcing it should be the latter. No prejudice against recreation in the future if somebody can expand it with better sourcing. Bearcat (talk) 18:28, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shekar Natarajan

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Promo article. Fails WP:BIO. Refs are mostly interviews and profiles. No indication of being notable. scope_creepTalk 07:29, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is so many citations on his work in this article and he is well known in the world of Supply Chain. 75.149.50.222 (talk) 02:55, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=M1dROmoAAAAJ&hl=en 75.149.50.222 (talk) 02:55, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to address the concerns regarding the notability and reliability of the references in this article.
Notability and Achievements:
Shekar Natarajan is a recognized expert in the field of supply chain management. His contributions to the industry have been significant, as evidenced by his receipt of the Medallion Award from the Institute of Industrial and Systems Engineers (IISE) in 2010, which is awarded for notable contributions to the field. It was awarded to only 10 people over the last decade. This award recognizes individuals that have made a notable impact on the industrial engineering profession. The full list of awardees, including Mr. Natarajan, can be viewed here - https://www.iise.org/awards.aspx?id=10802.
Reliable Sources:
In addition to the IISE recognition, Mr. Natarajan has been acknowledged by various reputable industry sources. For example, Material Handling and Logistics News has recognized him as an expert in supply chain logistics. More details about his work and expertise can be found in their coverage here - https://www.mhlnews.com/shekar-natarajan-expert.
Given these points, I believe Mr. Natarajan's notability is well-established within his field, supported by reliable third-party sources.
Thank you for considering these points. 75.149.50.222 (talk) 04:23, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Shekar Natarajan has received several prestigious awards and recognitions throughout his career, acknowledging his significant contributions to the supply chain and logistics industry.* Medallion Award (2010): Awarded by the Institute of Industrial and Systems Engineers (IISE), recognizing his contributions to the field of industrial engineering and systems.
  • DC Velocity Rainmaker (Year): Named as one of the "Rainmakers" by DC Velocity magazine, which highlights professionals who have made substantial impacts in the logistics and supply chain field. Source.
  • Consumer Goods Visionary (2010): Recognized as a visionary by Consumer Goods magazine for his forward-thinking strategies in the consumer goods industry. Source.Given the multiple awards and recognitions that Shekar Natarajan has received, it is clear that he has made a noteworthy impact in his industry. Deleting this article would mean removing valuable information about a recognized leader in supply chain management, whose work continues to influence the field. This article serves as a credible and informative resource for those interested in learning about influential figures in the industry.


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Parts of the article look promotional but can be cleaned up, but that does not mean that the subject is not notable. Clearly meets WP:BIO, with copious citations all over the web (WP:SIGCOV). Also search for Chandrashekar Natarajan. Plenty of Google Scholar contributions.
Some awards and sentences about him being a "thought leader" can be trimmed since I believe they're too promotional, but the sources clearly demonstrate that this is a notable Fortune 500 company executive. Natarajan is covered by the Wall Street Journal, Reuters, New York Times, Harvard Business Review, and many other top-tier sources that can also be included.
Copyediting needed? Yes. But notability fail? Definitely not. I'd recommend keeping and then cleaning up. Nyangaman4 (talk) 01:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No. On the Google Scholar citation list , only one paper is above 100 cites which means that record of achievement is invalid. Too low a h-index/citation count to count towards WP:NACADEMIC. Being contract or worked at place doesn't inherently notable. Only coverage does and its not here. We will look at the reference today. scope_creepTalk 08:36, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I could not find any WP:SIGCOV piece on this person in a quality independent national RS, a zero in an international one. His awards are not notable and "working for" major US corporations in a local country is also not notable. Article is very WP:PROMO and written like his resume. Getting into WP:G11 territory but regardless, no evidence of notability on any basis. Aszx5000 (talk) 18:49, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

V The Serial

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Fails WP:NTV and WP:GNG. M S Hassan 📬✍🏻 07:23, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Arun Kumar Mehta

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As prophesied, this page is immediately back after soft deletion. This biography of an Indian civil servant fails WP:NPOL, WP:GNG, WP:NBIO. There is no WP:SIGCOV of the individual in reliable, independent, secondary sources. Sourcing is limited to WP:ROUTINE coverage and WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS that refer to him in the context of his former role while covering other subjects. (For example, the awards he is purported to have received were granted to the Jammu and Kashmir government and accepted by Mehta on its behalf.) There is no other WP:SIGCOV in sources considered reliable under WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:21, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I think there are two questions here:Notability and Coverage.
  • I don't WP:NPOL is the standard here. He is a civil servant, neither a person who was voted into the position not a Judge. However, his position in the Order of precedence in India is above certain individuals that would qualify. I think in terms of notability, the closest equivalent would be people who are Secretary of State for a given US State, such as those in Category:Secretaries of state of Texas where Wikipedia has quite a few. (Yes, I know the Americans are (US State) Cabinet positions, but this seems to be close to the same and equally doesn't seem covered by WP:NPOL.
  • Coverage There isn't any doubt that he holds the position, the question is whether the first two references which show that he *had* the position are enough to show general notability. So at this point, and I'll hopefully come back after others have commented, I'm a Week Keep.

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Yogacharya Govindan Nair

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I don’t see any sources in English to support WP:AUTHOR. The subject has written multiple books but I see no in-depth reviews, just online bookshops and Wikipedia mirrors. Mccapra (talk) 05:40, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Twenty Seventh Edition of his book was released on the International day by the publisher who published his book nearly 4 decades ago. here is the link https://www.instagram.com/dcbooks/p/C8eOMOMyNxz/?hl=en&img_index=1 2405:201:E010:706F:F0B9:15A2:5E91:AA5B (talk) 13:13, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. No sources on the page. Fails WP:NBIO. Fails WP:NAUTHOR, who is not widely cited by peers or successors. As Author and Yoga instructor, subject has not created a significant or well-known work and I cannot find subject's work in multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work. Fails WP:GNG too. RangersRus (talk) 13:45, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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There are sources for the article and there is no ground for deleting this page. Lack of contribution does not necessitate deletion of a page. Such a practice will only contribute to removal of information about the lesser known people. I strongly oppose the deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Versatilegeek (talk • contribs) 07:14, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment to the objection that “there are sources” my response as nominator is that I don’t doubt that the subject is the author of multiple books. What there is not is anything that demonstrates notability. We don’t allow bio articles sourced almost entirely to online shopping sites with dead links. In addition not a single detail of the subject’s life is even verifiable based on the refs in the article or anything else I can find in English. I don’t think it’s acceptable to retain an entirely unverified bio on the strength of a claim that “there are sources.” Mccapra (talk) 06:11, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As you say, sources don’t have to be in English. They can be in any language but if they exist this discussion is the place to share them. Mccapra (talk) 20:31, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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2024 Bengal Pro T20 League

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Don't need separate season articles for this tournament, as the coverage doesn't warrant it. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep @Joseph2302, It is the largest tournament in East and North East India and it's one of the important leagues in India, I presume after a few years it will have same importance as Tamil Nadu Premier League or KSCA tournament, I believe this article should be kept. Beside that, can you please highlight the main issue in this article other than the coverage. A league can't be famous in just one season, it needs time, and this league had enough coverage being a new league according to what I saw in the internet and from the residents of West Bengal. Wowlastic10 (talk) 11:23, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note Several Twenty20 pages have existed includimg thier annual leagues for many years, and in my opinion, it is not appropriate to nominate them for deletion.

It appears that certain teams are selectively promoting specific and state-level leagues while pushing for the deletion of others. This practice seems to favor the retention of pages related to their preferred leagues, potentially at the expense of others.

Wikipedia is a global platform that should uphold the principle of equality for all pages that have significant coverage. It's important to ensure that all state and national leagues with significant covearge, regardless of their popularity or backing, are treated fairly and given the opportunity to be represented. Consistent and unbiased application of Wikipedia's guidelines is crucial to maintaining its integrity as a reliable and inclusive source of information. Davidrun99 (talk) 10:56, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. None of the above keep reasons offer any reasoning whatsoever, just "these exist, so this should too". Clearly, this tournament also fails WP:GNG and consists wholly of WP:NOTSTATS. AA (talk) 14:55, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I haven't told that Just because other tournament exists, this too shall exist. The Tamil Nadu premier league season pages exist because we have given them time. Why don't we give time to this article? Please Highlight how can I save this article rather than demotivating. Thank you! Wowlastic10 (talk) 10:13, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The league is not notable (even majority of the players) or noteworthy enough nationally or internationally to warrant a page on. Fails WP:GNG. No need for separate page when most of the WP:CFORK is from Bengal Pro T20 League RangersRus (talk) 15:45, 25 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    please give suggestions to save this article. I will start research and find all necessary website articles for it. Thank you! Wowlastic10 (talk) 10:14, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Wowlastic10 not commenting on this but basically what you need is 3 reliable sources with significant coverage; i.e. three news articles from different outlets, independent of the tournament, and not almost-entirely derived from official press releases, giving a couple paragraphs on it would likely work. Strictly you only need "multiple reliable sources" but 3 is the usual amount. I think the article *might* have this now, but I can't tell? Wikipedia notability really isn't supposed to be about how important something is, but how much writing exists on it. Mrfoogles (talk) 19:24, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]


  • Comment, Guidelines / Standards for Establishing Wikipedia Notability for State Cricket Leagues:

In my opinion, establishing clear guidelines for creating Wikipedia articles related to state cricket leagues is essential to ensure they meet the notability criteria and have a lasting presence on the platform. To pass the Wikipedia General Notability Guidelines WP:GNG and retain annual league and team articles, I propose the following criteria:

Completion of Multiple Seasons: State leagues, such as the Tamil Nadu Premier League, should successfully complete at least one to three annual league series. This demonstrates consistency, relevance, and the league’s potential for long-term significance in the cricketing landscape.

Involvement of National Players: The state league should feature at least 10 players who have competed in prestigious events such as the Indian Premier League (IPL), national cricket tournaments, or international matches. The presence of such players not only elevates the league's standard but also increases its notability and media coverage.

Minimum Team Requirement and Broadcast Standards: To align with national and international guidelines, the state cricket league should consist of a minimum of six teams. Additionally, the league should be broadcast live on major sports channels like Star Sports, ESPN, or equivalent platforms. This ensures widespread visibility and demonstrates the league’s significance beyond the local level.

By adhering to these guidelines, we can ensure that Wikipedia articles about state cricket leagues are both notable and valuable resources for readers, reflecting the importance of these leagues in the broader context of cricket. Davidrun99 (talk) 23:50, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just writing the rules/entry criteria for a tournament doesn't mean that it passes WP:GNG, which is the main criteria for whether an article is kept or not (not any of the rules you're making up on this and similar AFDs). Where is the evidence of significant coverage in reliable sources specifically about this season? Joseph2302 (talk) 07:54, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. checking the refs and doing a BEFORE search, I couldn't find any prose reference which described the final, just scorecard websites.no report. So there's not only no WP:SIGCOV, there's not even any WP:ROUTINE of the biggest game. Fails GNG.
Spinin (talk) 01:51, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting. Regardless of whether articles like this are needed, do the sources establish notability for this league?
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Delete without WP:SALTing. Reviewing the references, I'm on the fence about whether the referencing meets a GNG level or not. Given the newness and existing WP:OFFCRIC practices, I think the right approach is to delete for now, and recreate later if after a few seasons the competition does more clearly meet GNG year after year. Aspirex (talk) 22:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have found articles by Hindustan Times, NDTV Sports, Times of India, News18, are this eleigible? Wowlastic10 (talk) 15:17, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wowlastic10, you can't just say that you found sources, you have to share links so that other editors here can evaluate whether or not they are reliable and provide SIGCOV. But I'd hurry, this AFD might close soon. Liz Read! Talk! 04:47, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alleppey Ripples

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Alleppey Ripples (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This team plays in a tournament without great coverage, and so we so not require separate team articles. Does not meet WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:42, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages for other teams from the same league:

Trivandrum Royals (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Thrissur Titans (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Joseph2302 (talk) 16:54, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Drafty/Merge All There are no significant sources, this is just a team participating in a state cricket league, this event has not been held yet, and the team has not participated in any other tournament, It can be kept as a draft until the event takes place, or Merge into Kerala Cricket League ~~ Spworld2 (talk) 16:20, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Prateek Raj

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Prateek Raj (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Apart from the obvious undisclosed paid editing by Pinknetwork123, a fairly new account with 20 edits, comes up with a 20000 bytes draft. It was quickly accepted by a reviewer who I believe did not properly evaluate it. At this point, the article was majorly based on primary sources. Interviews, commentaries, and his opinion pieces do not contribute towards GNG. I believe the rest are paid PR articles and there is no significant coverage of Prateek Raj in independent sources. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 04:43, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I want to draw everyone’s attention to Wikietiquette Article for Deletion, WP:AFDEQ, especially on the fourth point “Do not make unsourced negative comments about living people. These may be removed by any editor.” I would recommend editors to be unbalanced and take a constructive approach here, given that it concerns a living person.
First, the claim that the article has "obvious undisclosed paid editing" is not correct, as I have already explained before. Additionally, the assertion that he gives “interviews on paid promotional sources” is baseless. Which interviews specifically are paid? Those with The Times of India on hate speech, NDTV, Bloomberg, or discussions on caste and income in The Indian Express, The Hindu, The Telegraph, New Indian Express, or the op-eds on LGBT rights? Just a simple Google search shows that subject has several engagements. And his bio is openly available across academic space to help people create his profile.
It may be reasonable to debate the subject’s notability, it is inappropriate to dismiss their legitimate work as “paid” without evidence. I encourage editors to adhere to Wikietiquette WP:AFDEQ to remain impartial and decide constructively in this discussion. Thank you. Pinknetwork123 (talk) 16:54, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pinknetwork123: What unsourced negative comments do you think have been made here? jlwoodwa (talk) 18:05, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot @Jlwoodwa for your comment. The comments made here on 1. “obvious” undisclosed paid editing 2. “paid PR articles” and 3. interviews on “paid promotional” sources, make unsourced negative claims about the subject and his work, which affects their reputation in this public space. This is not in line with Wikietiquette policy.
The article cites several reputed and credible secondary sources from the Indian media specifically covering the subject and his work. After this discussion, I agree there are some primary sources which can be removed, and the article can be modified to Wiki standards. The article has been put twice by two different editors in the mainspace.
I understand that editors can put any article to AfD, but I agree with Wikietiquette that AfD should not become a place for making unsubstantiated claims about the work of a living person. I’d welcome a more measured tone when dealing with living persons. Thank you! Pinknetwork123 (talk) 09:39, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is very much a promotional article [18], so the statement stands. Others are items this person published under their own name, and are a primary source. No articles strictly about this individual. Oaktree b (talk) 01:07, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the fact that the findings in his research are being covered by newspapers of record and the fact that he holds the position of a assistant professor at IIM Bangalore would sufficiently qualify him to meet WP:NACADEMIC#7. Sohom (talk) 13:13, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but I disagree. Many are passing mentions coming from a report released by the Indian Institute of Management. The Hindu article has no byline and the impact of the report is nowhere to be seen. The second Hindu article is authored by a freelance journalist and a study/ report done with 2 others. 3 has some interview bytes and 4 only mentions his name once.
The position of Assistant Professor at IIM Bangalore doesn't carry much weight when evaluating for WP:NACADEMIC. I believe the extensive coverage about the latest report is only because it is related to Karnataka's govt, which i beleive only makes it as routine coverage.
I fail to see Prateek Raj's reports creating substantial impact in terms of citations or otherwise. AFAICS, they fail to meet all eight criterias listed in WP:NACADEMIC. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 14:14, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jeraxmoira To clear one thing up, I did not imply that the position "Assistant Professor at IIM Bangalore" carries much weight. What I implied was that given the fact that he is a professor, we should use the WP:NACADEMIC criteria to evaluate him instead of the more stringent WP:GNG criteria. Sohom (talk) 19:35, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot to both of you for your comments. The academic is known for 3 separate issues, reported in reputed and prominent media houses of India. I will highlight only media mentions that cover exclusively or prominently him.
1. for his recent paper on Dalit economy, where he has been interviewed in the Hindu, the Telegraph, the Indian Express, the New Indian Express, the Times of India. All these interviews are referenced in the article, like, https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/bangalore/dalit-business-owners-experience-income-gap-of-16-when-compared-to-other-disadvantaged-groups-finds-study/article68505789.ece
2. for his work on hate speech. He has a full interview with The Times India https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/podcasts/the-times-of-india-podcast/how-hate-can-hurt-indias-economic-dreams/videoshow/102992737.cms. He also has a detailed interview with Indian Express and NDTV, and well as a full interview on history of media markets in Bloomberg.
3. for his advocacy of LGBT rights. His October 2023 OpEd in the Indian Express merits him a notable place in LGBT Academics category, which is underpopulated, and needs more biographies https://indianexpress.com/article/opinion/columns/sc-marriage-equality-judgment-8992557/.
Thanks to this review process, which is helpful as it helps identify what is noteworthy about the subject. The constructive way forward may be to trim the article with only the most noteworthy information. Pinknetwork123 (talk) 16:32, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The sources on the page are quite poor with some written by the subject himself and some others with passing mention and interviews on paid promotional sources. Some sources are also unreliable. The subject has not had a significant noteworthy impact through his profession and outside the profession nationally or internationally to warrant a page on. Page also reads as resume. RangersRus (talk) 12:20, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Relisting, hoping for some more opinions here. But, Pinknetwork123 know that interviews don't help establish notability. Their content can be used to verify article content but having the subject talk about themself and their work doesn't help demonstrate that the subject themself is notable (as Wikipedia judges notability).
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Thanks, Liz! Your input helped me assess the sources better. With AfC and AfD processes, the article has significantly improved with mostly credible secondary sources that meet WP:NACADEMIC#7 in my view (thanks for highlighting Sohom!). I focused on Wikipedia:BLPRS-compliant sources that aren't based on press releases, particularly relevant in the Indian context (Wikipedia:NEWSORGINDIA). Here are a few: The Telegraph, The Hindu, and Indian Express highlight the author’s work on caste; Economic Times and Mint cover his work on regional inequality. The one-to-one Times of India interview is as a notable hate speech activist, and his October 2023 Indian Express Op-Ed, though a primary source, is relevant for his role as an LGBT academic from Global South (an underrepresented group on Wikipedia, here). Pinknetwork123 (talk) 18:45, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete: Does not seem to pass academic notability with very few publications. Wonderful that they advocate for change, but just not enough non-puffy coverage to keep the article. Oaktree b (talk) 01:04, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article has undergone a lot of revision since it was nominated. Here is the source assessment for the current version with 23 sources.
    • Direct independent coverage from secondary sources for criteria WP:NACADEMIC#7 (reliable) 11 sources: 1 (Hindu), 2, 21, 22 (Indian Express), 6 (NDTV), 7, 20 (Times of India), 10, 11 (Telegraph India), 12 (New Indian Express), 23 (Bloomberg)
    • Significant mention in independent coverage from secondary sources (reliable) 3 sources: 3 (Economic Times), 4 (The Mint), 20 (Outlook)
    • Direct coverage from secondary sources but could be press release. (partially reliable) 2 sources: 13 (Times of India), 18 (Hindu)
    • Primary sources (less reliable) 7 sources: 5 (Op-Ed by author - Indian Express), 8, 16 (Profile, Report - Chicago Booth), 9 (Paper by author - PLOS One), 14 (News - IIMB), 15 (News - King’s College), 17 (Report - US Congress)Pinknetwork123 (talk) 09:57, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Keep As noted above, criterium 7 of WP:NACADEMIC is clearly met with extensive and diverse media coverage in more than one occurrences. Meeting one of the criteria is enough for academic notability.
JamesKH76 (talk) 14:05, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would like you to mention the extensive and diverse media coverage that Prateek Raj has received for his substantial impact outside academia, apart from the promotional, Op-ed, routine coverage of reports presented to governments and interview sources. To be precise, please highlight his substantial impact . Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 14:22, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete‎. Consensus is sourcing is insufficient. Star Mississippi 02:27, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CITTA Foundation

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This article is very promotional and written in a very spammy way. I have already removed a copyright violation but I cannot find any sustained coverage of the organisation that would help it pass WP:NCORP, save some press releases. – Isochrone (talk) 16:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would think that it is not promotion or advertising because it has a criticism of a failed project by the foundation. Starlighsky (talk) 13:17, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just wanted to add that the article was based on the GYAAN Center architecture. The reasoning was that writing about the foundation allows for the center to be written about: (External link) The Gyaan Center, a Sustainable Architectural Marvel in the Heart of India’s Golden City - Architect and Interiors India Starlighsky (talk) 13:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. If someone wants to actively work on this to improve it, I'm happy to draftify. Star Mississippi 02:29, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vishal Vada Vala

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Simply fails WP:FILMMAKER. Sources are not helpful toward establishing notability on this subject, the ones from WP:BEFORE are not helpful either. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:36, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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