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MoEngage

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Fails WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Trivial coverage WP:ORGTRIV. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 10:51, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Chris Hodges

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Fails WP:NBIO. Old AFD is not for this person, it was for someone church-related. Geschichte (talk) 05:29, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete clearly fails WP:GNG, diplomatic roles held do not confer notability, coverage singularly lacking - there's more coverage out there, especially in Indian/Chennai media but it's all routine 'consul general says thing about trade'. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 08:08, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sho Kamimura

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Rightfully prodded by User:Piotrus in 2023. Played very briefly in Japan’s second league, India’s second league and in Singapore. Nothing usable in ja:wiki, no sources to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Creator is indefinitely blocked. Geschichte (talk) 07:45, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: One or two goals isn't the stuff of notability, playing in the third league is very likely non-notable. The lack of sourcing in both the Ja and En wiki articles are also indicative of non-notability. I can't find any sourcing about this person. Oaktree b (talk) 14:27, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sudarshan Singh Bajwa

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The article fails WP:BIO and WP:GNG. The sources primarily focus on the subject's demise, which does not justify the existence of an independent Wikipedia article. I recommend a speedy deletion, as the article has little to no chance of surviving a deletion discussion. — MimsMENTOR ^talk 09:02, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Seems to hold the third highest police rank and served as a director of a cabinet secretarial, which both seem to be about mid-level civil service positions. This doesn't strike me as meeting notability. Appears to be in senior management, which isn't usually high enough to meet notability here. Oaktree b (talk) 14:25, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ashish Deora

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Fails WP:GNG. Can't find anything much different from the stuff already in the article or in the sources. Source 4 is entirely promotional, and source 1 probably is too. A WP:BEFORE search was performed but I couldn't really find anything that establishes notability. If Google Translate is to be trusted, then sources 2 and 3 don't give any more depth either. Procyon117 (talk) 15:11, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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(I forgot to add this but just to add) The sources say he has founded companies in different sectors but none of the sources actually say what those companies are aside from one or two. Procyon117 (talk) 15:12, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Apart from the articles in 'Navbharat Times' and 'Maharashtra Times', the other news sources are not strong enough. This makes it challenging for the article to meet Wikipedia’s general notability guidelines (WP:GNG). Baqi:) (talk) 08:46, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miss You (film)

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This is about an unreleased film which does not satisfy film notability. Unreleased films are only notable if production itself has received significant coverage by reliable sources. A review of the sources shows that they are all announcements or press releases about the film or its songs. The first five references, in four different media, are essentially identical, which is best explained that they are the same press releases to different media.

Reference Number	Reference	Comments	Independent	Significant	Reliable	Secondary
1	The Hindu	States that movie will be filmed.	No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
2	cinemaexpress.com	States that movie will be filmed.	No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
3	thesouthfirst.com	States that movie will be filmed.	No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
4	www.business-standard.com	States that movie will be filmed.	No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
5	The Hindu	Same as 1	No. 1 through 5 are the same, and so are a press release.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
6	timesnownews.com	States that movie will be filmed.	Probably.	Not for this purpose	Yes	Yes
7	Times of India	Passing mention of a song.	Maybe	No. Passing mention.	No	Yes
8	cinemaexpress.com	Press release about a song.	No.	No	Yes	Yes
9	cinemaexpress.com	Another press release about a song.	No.	No	Yes	Yes
10	news18.com	An announcement about the film.	Probably.	Not for this purpose.	Yes	Yes

There is also a draft; the draft and the article are by different authors. The information in this article and in the draft can be merged in the draft, and the draft can be submitted, with reviews and other quality sources, when the film has been released and reviewed. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:52, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Because release is announced for late November, I would normally have suggested to keep this and I would have merged the draft into it .....but there are TWO drafts Draft:Miss You Movie (created yesterday, just before the article, same creator) and Draft:Miss You (film) by User:Gowthamaprabu (created 21. 10); the latter was declined by the nom. Read the following comment: "Thank you for your submission, but the subject of this article already exists in Wikipedia. You can find it and improve it at Miss You (film) instead.", said the nom of the present AfD when declining the page.....which, if I was the page creator, would make me think, the page discussed here is not concerned by deletion! Still as Gowthamaprabu's Draft was the first page to be created, I consider it should be the starting point so I suggest a merge of all three pages into Draft:Miss You (film). Premise is known, actors are notable, coverage for verification exists, so even if it's the other way around, I won't be shocked but declining the Draft and inviting its creator to expand a page and, an hour later or so, taking the said page to AfD is a bit confusing.Mushy Yank (talk) 22:42, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello @Robert McClenon and @Mushy Yank! Hope you're both doing well! I wanted to provide some context regarding the article Miss You (2024), which covers the upcoming film set for release at the end of November 2024. As mentioned transparently, I have been commissioned by the producers to edit and create content for this article, ensuring accurate representation of the movie. I’ve Confirmed that the official release date is November 29, 2024, though due to a lack of publicly available citations, I haven't specified the date in the article itself. I’ve included all available information with relevant citations, and I believe the content is accurate and complete as presented. If possible, I'd suggest we retain the article and continue to improve it together. We could even consider merging it with Draft: Miss You (Film) by User:Gowthamaprabu to consolidate information. Meena1998 (talk) 07:10, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge into Draft:Miss You (film) since the film's release is near, let's wait. Once it hits theaters, it is expected to get more coverage and critical reviews. You can then update the page and publish it through the AFC route. For now, let's merge its content into the declined draft:).Chanel Dsouza (talk) 13:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daveed (2025 film)

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Unreleased film, nothing especially notable about the production, therefore does not meet WP:NFILM, specifically WP:NFF, as an as yet unreleased film. Should have remained in draft space but has been moved back to main space, so deletion is required. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 17:55, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I can see many upcoming movie articles on Wikipedia, and as an editor who enjoys creating and editing movie articles, I’m particularly focused on the Indian film industry. My goal is to reach 10,000 edits and become a strong contributor to Wikipedia. Recently, I encountered a deletion nomination for an article on an upcoming film, even though its release date has been announced. I removed the "unreleased" category and added the "upcoming films" category since the shoot and post-production are complete. I’ve verified all the data through news articles, and everything seems accurate. This is the first time I've faced a deletion nomination for a film article, and I’m feeling a bit helpless. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Arjusreenivas (talk) 18:14, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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And regarding the notbaility of prodcution, The film was distributed by Century Films which is the distributer of Malaikottai Vaaliban, Perumani and John Luther etc. These are the details I got from the producers social handles. Arjusreenivas (talk) 18:30, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Notability" would rather be established through sources independent of the subject. (Not saying that what you are saying is not true nor that it is not interesting) Mushy Yank (talk) 22:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Thank you for your Participation in this Discussion, Please Check sources, I think the article have more than enough sources. Arjusreenivas (talk) 03:07, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing about the production, as stated, is notable. Everything is very, very standard. WP:NFF is clear: Additionally, films that have already begun shooting, but have not yet been publicly released (theatres or video), should generally not have their own articles unless the production itself is notable per the notability guidelines. Basically, you should not be creating articles in main article space about the vast majority of films that have not yet released. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 10:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, This article covers a film that's set to release in the next two months. Regarding production details, I can only reference publicly available news articles and interviews. Given the popularity of this film in India, I believe many people here are already aware of its production background. I kindly request someone from India to assess the notability of this article, especially regarding its production and other key details.

I welcome everyone to expand the article and contribute with verified information. I’m also sharing data I’ve gathered from media sources to help make this a comprehensive and accurate article. Please feel free to edit for clarity, correct any English errors, and improve. Arjusreenivas (talk) 11:14, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to Antony_Varghese#Films: listed there; given existing coverage, the fact that filming is wrapped, the cast, notable and details about productions are verifiable, I am not opposed to Keep if other users agree it can be kept (opposed to deletion, not necessary in the present case). Mushy Yank (talk) 22:50, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Mushy Yank. Yes, I believe this article is relevant to keep on Wikipedia because the release date has been announced, and the film has already wrapped. Therefore, deletion would not be the right decision. Thank you for your comment. Arjusreenivas (talk) 03:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect would be fine, until the film has released. I mean, draftifying would have worked, too, but... Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 15:04, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, The article meets 4 out of 5 of the WP:NFF production guidelines. Enough information is available to support article. Also it can be classified under the "2025 films, Upcoming films, Upcoming Malayalam-language films" category. Arjusreenivas (talk) 15:42, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The film has successfully completed its production phase, and reliable sources confirm that it is currently in the post-production and marketing stages, with only the final release pending. The project meets 4 out of 5 of the WP:NFF production guidelines. Sufficient information is available to justify an independent article, and it can be classified under the "2025 films, Upcoming films, Upcoming Malayalam-language films" category.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 07:35, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your input. I believe there are no notability issues with this article, so it should be retained. From my review, the movie is scheduled for release in two months, and it’s not from a new production or featuring unknown actors. Thank you for your contribution. Arjusreenivas (talk) 15:38, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Plunder of Murshidabad (1742)

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First of all, the article is written in the form of a fan-made story, attempting to villainize an entity (or perhaps show off? There are numerous instances in articles about Indian military history where users have included shocking or vulgar acts committed by militants).
WP:CITEKILL has made source analysis more complex, but once unreliable sources were cleared, the analysis became much easier. The article clearly fails to meet WP:GNG, as well as old sources falling under WP:RAJ and WP:AGEMATTERS have widely been used (caused the reason for the put down of the last proposal, and i was on a break)

Analysis:

The New Cambridge Modern History Vol. 7 (1713-63)* by Lindsay, J. O., Ed:

The book only mentions "Murshidabad" once, with the context found in the parent article on Maratha invasions of Bengal.

The same applies to *The Marathas - Cambridge History of India (Vol. 2, Part 4)* by Stewart Gordon;

It mentions the event alongside the "Maratha invasions of Bengal," which, indeed, should also be referenced here. A separate article is not warranted for this event, as it is a minor occurrence within a larger conflict—specifically, a plunder. Such events do not meet the minimum notability standards. In fact, an entire page from a reliable source is missing in this case. Additionally, the use of a military conflict infobox is unnecessary here, as it follows the same problematic pattern seen with articles like "Battle of X" or "X-Y Wars" in Indian military history. This approach has caused numerous issues. In conclusion, the article fails to meet notability standards and is poorly written. The content could easily be integrated into the parent article instead. Imperial ^[AFCND] 14:53, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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note to the closer: Please review the background of the voters as meatpuppetry is common among these topic areas.-Imperial ^[AFCND] 14:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The pillaging of an undefended city doesn't warrant an article and cannot be described as a "Maratha victory" (as claimed in the infobox). Clarityfiend (talk) 00:43, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sarvepalli Sisters

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Non-notable singers. Fails WP:GNG. BBQboffin^{grill me} 07:03, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article creator removed AFD tag, blanked the page and moved it to Draft space. All of which have been reverted. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:23, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - I am not sure if this is promotional, a vanity piece, or simply a case of TOOSOON. In time they may become notable, but not now.--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:17, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:SINGER. I can't find any reliable sources covering this duo. APK hi :-) (talk) 10:04, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Added news article references & other website citations Aksvsm (talk) 11:14, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - The article appears to be a promotional attempt and at best, it is too soon for the sisters to qualify for a WP article. I can find no significant coverage in reliable music media, and they are only visible in self-upload and social media sites. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:55, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Poor to unreliable sources with no significant coverage on the subject to pass notability. Page likely a WP:PROMO. Fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 15:49, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Article dominated by unreliable sources and highly promotional. I do know that AFD is not a place to clean promotional contents or delete an article because it is promotional, but this notability is way below required standard. Mekomo (talk) 16:31, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - The duo are well noted upcoming artists in the field of carnatic music — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.204.192.18 (talk) 17:05, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete highly promotional and lacking substantial coverage of the Sarvepalli Sisters themselves.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 14:47, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - poorly written page that’s barely more than spam. There’s lots of passing mentions in sources, but the turn in the Indian press has become cheerleading. Bearian (talk) 03:33, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yamadheera (2024 film)

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Redirect to Kempegowda 2 removed several times by user. This is the only article created by that user.

See the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force#Dubbed films do not get articles. Dubbed films do not get articles in any circumstances. The icing on the cake is that the last Zee News source upon translating in English says that It was made as a Kannada movie with Shankar as the director. Recently this film is being released in Telugu with the title Yamadhira. The original text was శంకర్ దర్శకుడిగా చేస్తూ కన్నడ సినిమాగా తెరకెక్కించారు. తాజాగా ఈ చిత్రాన్ని తెలుగులో యమధీర టైటిల్‌తో విడుదల చేస్తున్నారు.

The 5th source (TFPC) despite being potentially unreliable also confirms the same. Yamadheera is a Kannada film made by Vedala Srinivas as producer and Shankar as director. Our Telugu actors Nagababu, Madhusudan, Ali and Satya Prakash are acting in this movie.

@Ravensfire:, I already created the discussion, but this user is adamant, do you think it could be a case of WP:COI? DareshMohan (talk) 07:24, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Restore redirect. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 07:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Restore redirect: Generally dubbed films should be mentioned on the original film's page, not with a stand-alone article. Ravensfire (talk) 13:51, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect back to Kempegowda 2. Move-Protection should be applied here. RangersRus (talk) 15:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect back: A Kannada-language movie that has been dubbed into Telugu does not qualify for a separate, independent article.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 10:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stoxkart

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Sources given are not indication of notability: the first two are from the company itself, while the third repeats a company statement, and the last two are instances of its CEO being quoted in media for unrelated topics. Doing a quick WP:BEFORE, I can find more company announcements/press releases (thehindubusinessline.com, entrepreneur.com), and this article by techinasia.com which still quotes the company's statements to some extent but not as fully as the others. Still, not looking like it meets WP:GNG or WP:NCORP. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:45, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete fails NCORP/CORPDEPTH; sources are routine and promotional. Creator blocked for advertising.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 13:44, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Too soon, no reliable resources - Herodyswaroop (talk) 11:15, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ajay Pal Lamba

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The sources in the article, at least the ones in English (and most of them are in English!), talk about Lamdas arrest of a notorious rapist. A WP:BEFORE revealed more of the same plus social media accounts. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 14:47, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Every year, hundreds of IPS and IAS officers are appointed in India, and most of them receive media coverage. They are often highlighted as successful individuals, especially those from poor backgrounds. According to this, it would seem that all of them should qualify for Wikipedia, Sorry. Baqi:) (talk) 17:04, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Peyanvilai

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No sources since 2008. Article appears to be entirely WP:OR. Smallangryplanet (talk) 10:07, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Redirect Couldn't find any sources for the topic. Agreeing with User:Smallangryplanet that it is WP:OR. Either delete or redirect to Thoothukudi District. TNM101 (chat) 11:55, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep I found this article and added it to the article. Unsourced claims should be removed.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 12:14, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Thoothukudi district. Not opposed to Delete. No reliable source with significant coverage on the village. Fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 15:59, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Arumuganeri. Apparently, this was a former village that has now been merged into Arumuganeri (another former village now designated as a town). The following query may help find some sources: site:gov.in "Arumuganeri" "Peyanvilai". utcursch | talk 01:45, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Thoothukudi district per RangersRus. This is a very common outcome. Bearian (talk) 10:44, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Perumapalayam

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No sources since 2008. A search for RS shows mostly references to this page. Smallangryplanet (talk) 10:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom. It’s long overdue time to clean up. Bearian (talk) 10:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment found some sources and added to the article. Unverified claims should be removed.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 12:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Erode district. Not opposed to Delete. No significant coverage on the village in reliable sources and evaluation of added sources have just passing mention. Still fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 16:10, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sahla Parveen

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Nothing has changed since the last AFD. Fails GNG. Thilsebatti (talk) 04:52, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The reference to Deccan Chronicle is valid. However, the inclusion of 'Amazon' as a reference is inappropriate and does not meet reliable sourcing standards. Given these sources, the subject may not meet the criteria outlined in Wikipedia's General Notability Guidelines (WP:GNG), which require significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. Therefore, additional references from reputable publications would be needed to establish notability effectively. Baqi:) (talk) 10:56, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the DC's author seemed dubious, but further review revealed that Cris S is an assistant editor at DC. After removing Amazon and Goodreads, the other three sources don't meet the significant coverage requirement.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 12:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: While some of the reliability of the sources can be verified, the article cannot stand alone as the subject does not meet Wikipedia's WP:GNG criteria.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 07:43, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Battles of Belonia Bulge

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The "Battles of Belonia Bulge" article has faced multiple issues since May, as it does not meet Wikipedia's quality standards. Specifically, the article provides insufficient Doomguy427 (talk) 16:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Laggam

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The article Laggam (film) already exists, and is more comprehensive. Content from Laggam can be merged into Laggam (film) if necessary. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 16:19, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge This issue can be resolved by requesting a merge and someone has already submitted a request for it. Now that the issue has been brought to AFD, the content of Laggam should be merged into Laggam (film). But after the merger the title should be changed to just "Laggam".Chanel Dsouza (talk) 13:30, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Srinagar attack

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Fails WP:NEVENT. I'm only seeing routine coverage, and no in-depth coverage. Not sure if this is going to have any lasting effect or receive any more coverage than what's already there. --Ratekreel (talk) 16:38, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I'd also like to note that the title of this article is misleading. It should have been named somthing like 2024 Khanyar/Srinagar gunfight/encounter, given it was not an attack. --Ratekreel (talk) 16:44, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Shareef Muhammed (producer)

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Apart from producing a upcoming movie, the subject hasn't accomplished anything noteworthy for an article. All the sources are about his upcoming movie. Fails GNG. Thilsebatti (talk) 16:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete While the subject look promising, he is only notable for one event (Producing "Marco" Movie)which is not enough to create an article for him here. Tesleemah (talk) 03:03, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Producers are mostly covered by the media in the context of the projects they invest in, which makes it difficult for them to meet GNG requirements.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 13:07, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Only one film in subject's credit, fails WP:NPRODUCER. No significant coverage on the biography of the subject and the sources are poor with only passing mentions. RangersRus (talk) 16:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The subject has only one unreleased project and is supported by weak sources, failing to meet the criteria of WP:GNG and WP:PRODUCER.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 08:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - as noted above, producers aren’t automatically notable. We routinely delete articles about production personnel because they are so run of the mill. Furthermore, in India, infomercials have taken over previously responsible media there, so sourcing about business in India requires a close eye. Bearian (talk) 10:04, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Janmat

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Doesn't qualify for WP:NORG or WP:GNG. Has received very basic routine coverage which amounts it "this also exists". It is an alliance of minor parties without representation in any state legislature or national parliament, more than half of them don't even have their own articles. MrMkG (talk) 16:06, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Cubes Entertainments

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Non notable film production company. Fails WP:NCORP.There are no reliable independent multiple sources available as well. Thilsebatti (talk) 06:53, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete-Fails notability criteria for companies. No sources found. 115.247.203.26 (talk) 19:14, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete: With only one project (unreleased), weak sources, fails notability criteria. Suggesting speedy delete as the article has little to no chance of surviving a deletion discussion.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 08:04, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete started last year with Marco as their first project. All sources have covered the film with minimal information about the company itself.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 14:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Roshni Kapoor

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The subject clearly fails to meet the WP:GNG (general notability guideline) and WP:NACTOR (notability for actors) standards. Coverage is limited to routine mentions, and most sources lack reliability per WP:RS (reliable sources). Additionally, many of the news articles appear to be paid content and include disclaimers indicating as such. Baqi:) (talk) 13:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: The current sources in the article are generally unreliable, except for a Bollywood Hungama video and a Zee News article. However, the Zee News article is about the song “Tu Rooh Mein Samaya” and does not provide significant coverage of the subject. Additionally, I was unable to find significant coverage from reliable, independent sources during my search. Therefore, the article fails to meet WP:GNG, and since the subject has no lead roles in multiple notable films, it also fails WP:NACTOR. GrabUp - Talk 14:17, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Poor to unreliable sources. Fails WP:NACTOR who has not played significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions and has not made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. RangersRus (talk) 14:23, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR, TheSlumPanda (talk) 15:15, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete little to add: a non-notable film without major coverage, sources that are churnalism and BrandMedia masquerading as legitimate, and two music videos are insufficient to pass NACTOR.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 14:02, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

18 Vayasu Puyale

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There are no reliable references or review from Chennai Online for this article. Most of the sources are unreliable (Behindwoods, Indiaglitz, Filmibeat) as per [1] per Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force. Only sources are about lead actor Ajay Pradeep eve teasing at a college [2] [3] [4], which is his personal life and not about the film (passing mention).

Save the article by adding reliable sources such as Kalki review. Cinesouth review can also help. Tamil search yields nothing useful [5]. DareshMohan (talk) 07:01, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some notable personalities are involved. The film was released and verification is possible. In this type of case, the working consensus is for standard ATDs such as redirects to director or a list of films. Here redirect (and possibly, merge) to List of Tamil films of 2007#July—September, until better sources are identified. Thanks.Mushy Yank (talk) 09:59, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. No significant coverage and lacks reliable sources and reviews from reliable critics. Fails WP:NFILM. If any improvement with multiple reliable sources are found, I will reconsider my vote. RangersRus (talk) 14:31, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no substantial coverage and searches yielded sources that seem dubious and unreliable.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 14:31, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Riyasat Parjamandal

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Unable to find enough sources to show that this topic meets WP:NORG. Redirection would have been a good ATD, but the only article that mentions this party is Ghagga, a town, which seems inappropriate as a target. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:24, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - the article name has a typo, it should be "Riyasat Prajamandal", "Riyasat Prajamandal" or "Riasti Praja Mandal". Notable political movement, see [6], [7], [8], [9] --Soman (talk) 10:09, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I believe the article is notable and the article just needs some corrections. It’s better to improve the article rather than delete it. Since Soman has provided references above, I think it's justified for the article to remain on Wikipedia. Baqi:) (talk) 17:07, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Haryana Gana Parishad

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Unable to find enough sources to show that this meets WP:NORG. PROD was contested. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:42, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, political party that had representation in the national parliament of India. Not impossible to source, and as per the number of references it is worth noting that there isn't a lot of 1999 material from Indian press online but WP:NEXIST more sources will exist offline in Indian national news media. --Soman (talk) 09:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The last sentence of WP:NEXIST is "However, once an article's notability has been challenged, merely asserting that unspecified sources exist is seldom persuasive, especially if time passes and actual proof does not surface". This article has been tagged as having no sources since December 2009. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:59, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're misreading NEXIST. Here is a party in national parliament, so it is reasonable to assume that there would exist offline sources available in addition to the available online sources. And lack of sourcing is not a deletion criteria in itself (apart from BLP articles). --Soman (talk) 10:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Haryana Republican Party

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Unable to find enough sources to show that this meets WP:NORG. PROD was contested. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:41, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Political party represented in state legislature. By no means impossible to source, and WP:NEXIST applies here as it is not very easily to find regional news from India from 2003 online. --Soman (talk) 09:51, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Gladrags Manhunt and Megamodel Contest

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This event lacks in-depth, independent and significant coverage as confirmed by a search on Google News. Also, the award is given primarily for promotional purposes by entities involved in marketing which is one of the exclusionary criteria at Wikipedia:Notability (awards and medals). Charlie (talk) 17:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This overall doesn't meet WP:GNG Cyberpower7 (talk) 19:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep how a national contest could not be notable. It also sends winners as national representatives to Manhunt International, Miss Intercontinental from 1997 to 2003, Miss Tourism International. Also Covered in high-profile Indian media which added, kindly check. Jitujadab90 (talk) 19:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I am not seeing any in-depth, independent and significant coverage on Google News. Could you kindly provide a detailed source analysis to support your vote to keep? Charlie (talk) 06:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: "Mannequin: Working Women in India's Glamour Industry" (Zubaan Books) by Manjima Bhattacharjya has 2 paragraphs on the Awards; note: the name varies a lot http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/52851463.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst and is very often shortened (without Contest or without other words; sometimes longer "Gladrags magazine’s Manhunt and Megamodel Contest"). I find more coverage about individual winners (a lot) than about the Awards per se. If this is not enough, it could be redirected to the magazine (I don't think deletion is necessary) Mushy Yank (talk) 23:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I forgot to mention: please read the first AfD, where sources had been presented, some that I found linked also in Google Books but I cannot access fully so cannot judge. (Consider this a weak keep then). Mushy Yank (talk) 23:31, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: There is enough coverage in reliable sources as discussed in the previous deletion discussion. Although I am not able to find any recent coverage of the contest, that does not mean it was not notable before and User:Раціональне анархіст (PAX)'s comment in the previous AfD should also be considered. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 07:54, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rituraj Kishore Sinha

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This page is not about an elected candidate at either the national or state level, so it fails to follow the WP:NPOL guidelines. Also, he fails to qualify for a page according to WP:NBIO, or WP:ANYBIO. Charlie (talk) 17:12, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails WP:NPOL. I cannot find subject's work as entrepreneur and politician that has made any significant impact and achievement, to be worthy of notice and noteworthy. RangersRus (talk) 14:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: It's too early at this point, and the article fails to meet both WP:NPOL and WP:GNG guidelines. Baqi:) (talk) 09:09, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this doesn't meet the general or subjective notability guidelines.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 13:41, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tamilaga Vettri Kazhagam

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Despite its creation by a blocked sockpuppet, specifically User:Bhusungk, this political party was founded this year and has not yet participated in any elections. The article currently fails to meet the notability criteria outlined in WP:GNG and WP:NORG. As a newly established regional political organization, it has not made notable contributions to regional or national political landscapes. Most sources are centered on initial news coverage reporting the party’s formation by a well-known actor, lacking substantial analysis or depth regarding the party’s policies, actions, or influence. There is no indication that the party has engaged in any significant political activities or initiatives that would establish its importance. Additionally, no reliable sources provide evidence of public or political recognition or electoral impact that would qualify it as a noteworthy political entity.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 13:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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How many sockpuppets of the original creator edited the article? And if I read the article correctly, a predecessor did contest elections. but yes, I have a promo-concern. The Banner talk 14:29, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@The Banner: I don’t have specific information regarding sockpuppets. The predecessor, however, was primarily a fan club rather than a political party. If the fan club meets notability standards, it might warrant a separate article. The current political entity does not appear notable at this time, which I interpret as aligning with WP:TOOSOON.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 14:45, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:Owais Al Qarni, what kind of sources do you think would help Tamilaga Vettri Kazhagam pass WP:GNG? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 17:40, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tamilaga Vettri Kazhagam (TVK), recently founded by actor Vijay, has demonstrated significant grassroots support by mobilizing thousands of youth across Tamil Nadu, positioning itself as a notable new political force focused on addressing regional issues and youth empowerment. Abdullah099$55 (talk) 20:02, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We have no use for promo. What Wikipedia needs is relevant info, based on reliable, independent, quality sources. Per WP:RS. The Banner talk 20:51, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That makes no sense. There is ample evidence of Vijay founding the party. Abdullah099$55 (talk) 02:16, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Just because the party has not participated in any elections, doesn't make it less notable, the party was created 9 months ago from a 15 years old philanthropic fan club, especially since the recent massive political conference, TVK has already been established to be notable party in Tamil Nadu politics, as it was created by a very popular actor in India, also already got millions of memberships, the mainstream media has been covering everything, the article is supported with lots of reliable sources with significant coverage meeting the criterias of WP:GNG, and they have become more active in the past months with announcements of policies and resolutions and will probably be actively engaging in more political activities and campaign for the 2026 election. Yarohj (talk) 05:55, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Priti Adani

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Non-notable individual. Sources are merely about the statements she has made which are sourced to WP:NEWSORGINDIA, and she is only known for being the wife of Gautam Adani. See WP:INHERITED. Ratnahastin (talk) 09:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - as noted above, and other recent AfDs, infomercials have taken over previously responsible media there, so sourcing about business in India requires better sourcing. Bearian (talk) 08:56, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: So many references from reliable resources which are passing WP:RS and article is surviving for many years created in 2021, passes WP:GNG. B-Factor (talk) 13:42, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or merge to Gautam Adani. I'm not seeing any significant coverage independent of her husband or the business group. Yuvaank (talk) 17:23, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The page is currently WP:STUB. Additional information from reliable sources is available on Google, and the page could be expanded. Meets the notability criteria outlined in WP:GNG.Kevarove (talk) 19:58, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pranav Adani

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Non-notable individual. Sources are promotional and cited to WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Only known for being a relative of Gautam Adani. See WP:INHERITED. Ratnahastin (talk) 09:54, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - as noted above, infomercials have taken over previously responsible media there, so sourcing about business in India requires better quality sourcing. Bearian (talk) 08:54, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: per WP:BEFORE, subject passes WP:BASIC. And this article has persisted since 2018. AFD Nomination seems intentional or any paid agenda. B-Factor (talk) 13:52, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:46, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good Glamm Group

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Fails WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Trivial coverage WP:ORGTRIV, promotional WP:PROMO and WP:ROUTINE. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. This AfD should be grouped with the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MyGlamm, as they both have similar promotional content. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 03:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I don’t think this article should be deleted Hallowme (talk) 14:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I think the article meets WP:NCORP and WP:GNG standards. Reliable sources (WP:RS) such as Forbes India, The Hindu Business Line, Inc42, and Fortune India, along with other available sources, are sufficient to establish notability. Any issues with promotional language can be resolved through further editing. Baqi:) (talk) 10:08, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:06, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ Keep The tone of the coverage presented is relentlessly promotional across the board ("Their mission is to make everyone look and feel their best, and they are well on their way to achieving that goal." Entrepreneur India) and the article definitely falls directly into WP:NOTCRUNCHBASE like a fieldmouse in a combine harvester. It's clear that Indian licenses of otherwise respected titles are presenting nowhere near the standard of objective journalism of their parents. Brandlabs by Inc42 is, for instance, a paid content play. Even the Forbes India coverage is wholly uncritical to an almost unreadable extent, while other coverage presented is clearly the result of paid promotion or company releases and interviews. But even when you take out the praise and purple prose, you're left with funding and IPO announcements - ~~there's nothing of substance to indicate any enduring impact.~~ There is, incidentally, nothing in the sources cited to stand up an involvement with the company by L'Occitane, which just added to my concerns. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:24, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per sources presented by @Chanel Dsouza below, Imma change my vote. I didn't find those, glad she did. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:46, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and keep improving it. I analysed the article's sources and I agree with Alexandermcnabb's assessment that the Entrepreneur India article has a promotional tone. However, not all the sources are of this nature. The article includes several that offer in-depth coverage. My search uncovered additional sources that provide critical analysis and substantial coverage of this group such as [10][11][12][13][14][15] so it passes NCORP and CORPDEPTH.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 14:19, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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MyGlamm

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Fails WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Trivial coverage WP:ORGTRIV, promotional WP:PROMO and WP:ROUTINE. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 03:03, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I agree with the nominator that this company lacks significant coverage. Pages of other companies or brands under this group–POPxo, MissMalini.com, The Moms Co and BabyChakra–have similar issues, with none of them appearing individually notable. I wouldn't oppose a collective merge of all five pages to Good Glamm Group. Yuvaank (talk) 00:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I am not very certain about the other pages discussed above, but this page could be kept, considering it is a unicorn startup and has been widely covered in the news. The page had been heavily edited by IPs adding promotional material, which I have made efforts to remove and neutralize the tone as much as possible. Though I defer to the consensus of other editors on this matter.--Elton-Rodrigues (talk) 11:32, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
According to the source cited on the page, it was MyGlamm's parent, Good Glamm Group, that became a unicorn. Yuvaank (talk) 18:28, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete if the parent fails WP:NCORP, the subsidiary certainly does. Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 09:25, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Robin Radhakrishnan

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Promotional article created by a sock who was originally blocked for UPE. Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG. Most of the sources are WP:NEWSORGINDIA. The last AFD opened by TheWikiholic was closed as no consensus. However the editors I'm tla and Rydex64 (page creator) who voted to keep the article have been blocked for socking and UPE. Thilsebatti (talk) 13:38, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~Keep~~ per Oaktree last time. I don't see any arguments against these sources... Aaron Liu (talk) 14:48, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm being cited as a "voice of reason" if you will, glad my contributions here help. Oaktree b (talk) 18:54, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Striking this; now neutral because I do not know enough to evaluate Indian sources' connections to subjects. Aaron Liu (talk) 13:44, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Still a keep, with the same sources I cited in my last discussion. Oaktree b (talk) 18:51, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per your arguments on the last AFD, [ [16] this is the only good source in the article. To establish GNG, we need atleast three such sources. The rest of the sources including the local ones are mostly paid. Also as pointed out by Mims Mentor, aside from being a well-known reality show contestant, the subject hasn't accomplished anything noteworthy enough to warrant an independent article. Thilsebatti (talk) 04:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Thilsebatti@Mims Mentor Is there some way we're supposed to find out whether a source is paid? Some here seem to be implying that the TOI articles are good but others say they're also paid.
(Also, there's no set number to determine GNG, and my personal number is 2.) Aaron Liu (talk) 12:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The content in the article appears promotional as it primarily highlights achievements, accolades, and public recognition, seemingly aimed at enhancing the subject's image. Many of the sources cited resemble paid news articles, as indicated by WP:NEWSORGINDIA. Aside from a controversial elimination from a reality show, the article lacks any notable achievements, with the subject's popularity largely limited to a local fan base in Kerala.--Mims Mentor (talk) 17:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Very interesting. RSP says "Editors should ensure that they do not use paid advertorials" for TOI, so is there a way supposed to check for whether a specific article is paid? Aaron Liu (talk) 18:11, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Aaron Liu, Oaktree b. Most news articles from TOI and other reputable sources about the subject tend to have an "overly positive tone," catering primarily to fan-base entertainment. These references frequently emphasize the subject's role as a controversial contestant on a TV reality show, with little mention of any substantial achievements beyond that. This makes the content weak and unlikely to meet the WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG standards. Additionally, some references appear to be mere news versions of the subject’s social media posts, further weakening its credibility as independent sources.--Mims Mentor (talk) 13:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But since "achievement" can be hard to determine, only the amount of unbiased coverage may determine notability. I am quite confused about Indian sources and paid coverage now. How can we determine whether a source is paid? Aaron Liu (talk) 13:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete:It is evident that the subject does not adhere to the WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR criteria. Only have some routine mentions, and the majority of sources are unreliable. Furthermore, a large number of the news stories have disclaimers without any bylines which means they are paid content. 111.92.70.85 (talk) 13:18, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Article stands as WP:BLP1E. Beyond a controversial reality show elimination, the subject lacks significant achievements. Fails WP:GNG.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 16:36, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - a Loser of a reality show is almost never kept at AfD. Bearian (talk) 22:30, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sokudo Electric

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Promotional article from an SMM company using press releases, interviews, product and facility launches, and other announcements. ~~No coverage in reliable sources.~~ No coverage in independent reliable sources, fails GNG. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 07:10, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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hi, these coverages are all reliable, they are posted on reliable media sources like news medias, print magazines. please feel free to check all the links before making a decision. Pitchonepr SMM (talk) 07:24, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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at the very least Delete the sections of the article that are just listing products, but the article as a whole reads somewhat promotional. Gaismagorm (talk) 17:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~Leaning keep. I cannot evaluate the reliability of most of the sources used in the article but some of them sources that look alright, like Rest of World and News18. The topic of the article seems notable. Jeraxmoira, are you saying that all of the sources are unreliable? Can you explain why you think so? Needless to say all the promotional fluff that is not supported by sources or is supported only by the company's press releases should be removed. Alaexis_¿question? 22:36, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like the proper process for dealing with the WP:COI has not been followed by Pitchonepr SMM, I urge them to disclose their conflict of interest immediately (full disclosure, I came here because asked me a question at my talk page). Alaexis_¿question? 22:43, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alaexis, the Rest of World article is an interview and the News18 article is a press release. They do not pass the WP:SIRS check that is conducted for articles about organizations and companies. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 04:37, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jeraxmoira, yeah, you're right about these two sources. And what about this piece? It seems to address the subject directly and in depth. Alaexis_¿question? 22:05, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is a very good source with a byline and it also seems to be a magazine feature. But, I wouldn’t be okay with it, as it’s an interview that would fail the WP:SIRS check. i.e., it is not completely independent of the article subject. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've changed my !vote to Leaning Keep. I understand your points but still think that this topic is notable. Alaexis_¿question? 08:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Sources are mainly WP:CHURNALISM, WP:NEWSORGINDIA, routine announcements, or press releases. I originally saw the News18 reference as meeting WP:ORGCRIT, but based on the search link provided by Jeraxmoira, I see that it is also churnalism (similar to how TechCrunch does a lot of stories). --CNMall41 (talk) 20:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Groww

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Not a G4, but no indication the issues raised at the prior AfDs have been addressed. A search is hard due to the name, but no indication of N:CORP. Star Mississippi 02:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep not sure why this page is nominated, when there are ample amount of third-party secondary sources cited for largest broker in India (Groww). Google search results easily show numerous articles with deep-dive into this unicorn's background, starting from getting funding form Y Combinator to moving past Zerodha and then to be awarded as 'Forbes India Leadership Award 2024' for Promising Startup.--Curvasingh (talk) 10:00, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Prior to me leaving a !vote, I am hoping you can point out the WP:THREE you feel meet the guidelines outlined in WP:ORGCRIT? I have started going through the references but there is a lot of churnalism and routine announcements so hoping as the creator you can point me in the right direction. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:05, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CNMall41 There are many reliable sources but I will point out these sources to claim notability:

--Curvasingh (talk) 02:13, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Groww is India's largest stock broker right now. There is no point in nominating this page for deletion. Saura376 (talk) 10:16, 4 November 2024 (UTC) — Saura376 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

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Keep - Plenty of reliable sources covering the company. APK hi :-) (talk) 10:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source assessment - Most of these sources were evaluated in the previous deletion discussion. However, I evaluated them a second time to either confirm that assessment or not.

1. Forbes India is not Forbes. It must be evaluated with care. This reference was previously assessed and I would agree with that assessment. The reference looks like it was written by the company itself based on the details information, quotes, and use of images and infographics that are promotional to the company.

2. LiveMint - I would not consider this source reliable at all. I can go to Fiverr or Upwork and pay to have my own article written for the publication. Not saying this one is, but do not trust a publication that doesn't always differentiate between paid press and organic press. If it is found to be reliable, this particular reference is similar to the Forbes India one above. Tons of quotes and graphics for the company.

3. Times of India - This is a reference published since the last AfD discussion. Clearly falls under WP:NEWSORGINDIA so not reliable.

4. Forbes India - This one is similar to the other Forbes India reference. However, the promotional tone appears to be from the publication's own research as to why the company won the award. It also appeared in print version so I would say this would be within the rhelm of ORGCRIT.

5. LiveMint - Same as 2.

6. Economic Times - Falls under NEWSORGINDIA. No byline and the first sentence starts with the location the news is coming from, indicating a press release or churnalism.

7. Business Today - Interview which would not meet ORGCRIT

8. Money Control - Same as LiveMint.

I can only see one source that would probably meet ORGCRIT. I also see a heavy push by SPA's and likely COI editors in the previous and current editing. If kept, the page will need cleaned up for NPOV. If deleted, salting may be in order to save time of volunteer editors. If anyone wants to discuss the individual sources assessed above please do so as I may have missed something and will gladly look at any additional information. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:51, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CNMall41 Here is one article from Forbes, not Forbes India -> https://www.forbes.com/advisor/in/investing/groww-vs-zerodha/ --Curvasingh (talk) 00:33, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:FORBESCON. Source is not usable for notability. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:50, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CNMall41 There are many sources from the The Hindu also:

--Curvasingh (talk) 09:46, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NEWSORGINDIA and WP:ROUTINE. We need sources passing WP:ORGCRIT. Please review that guideline and let me know what sources meet it. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:04, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - After the source assessment and inquiries about additional sources that may meet WP:ORGCRIT, there is only one I see that meets it. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:04, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

CNMall41 I am not sure how you are passing some information as routine coverage. In some earlier sources, there was extensive profile coverage of Groww. I am starting to think now that few Wikipedia reviewers has some inherent bias and that is why there is Criticism of Wikipedia, which is also why Wikipedia has been involved in lawsuits:-> https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/wikipedia-suspends-access-to-ani-defamation-case-page-following-delhi-hc-order/article68778075.ece

The classification of some credible information as non-reliable is not good. Even then I will provide another source from Business Standard :-> https://www.business-standard.com/companies/start-ups/financial-services-startup-groww-moves-domicile-to-india-from-the-us-124051000028_1.html --Curvasingh (talk) 04:31, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Casting WP:ASPERSIONS certainly does not support your keep !vote contention. --CNMall41 (talk) 16:57, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pocket FM (platform)

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Fails WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Trivial coverage WP:ORGTRIV, promotional WP:PROMO. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 12:43, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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'Commenthas a potential as over 100 mln downloads, and so on. WP NEXIST should be applied here before the final verdict. --NiftyyyNofteeeee (talk) 13:09, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Non-trivial coverage in Variety, Rest of World, and TechCrunch (meets RSP as being staff-written). Along with the sources in the article I think there's enough for WP:GNG. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 13:51, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The rest of world article counts, but the other two are routine coverage of raised capital, no? (WP:CORPTRIV) — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:17, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I was not aware of the detail in WP:CORPTRIV. If nothing else can be found it should probably be deleted, then. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 01:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia:TECHCRUNCH may not fully meet RSP standards, even if written by a staff writer. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 02:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep the platform has demonstrated notability through its significant user base, international expansion, and coverage in reputable sources, establishing it as a notable player in the digital audio streaming industry --Moarnighar (talk) 11:12, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To be considered notable on Wikipedia, it's not enough to be popular in terms of user base; there needs to be significant coverage from trustworthy and independent sources. If the coverage isn’t thorough or the sources aren't reliable, the platform's importance in the digital audio streaming industry might be exaggerated. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 02:51, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Source Assessment Table

Source	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table:
https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/pocket-fm-funding-audio-series-1235947135/		Trivial coverage on funding	? Unknown
https://restofworld.org/2024/elevenlabs-pocket-fm/			✔ Yes
https://techcrunch.com/2023/11/21/lightspeed-finalizing-leading-80m-plus-funding-in-pocket-fm/	Wikipedia:TECHCRUNCH	Trivial coverage on funding	✘ No
https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/companies/pocket-fm-to-start-ip-licensing-of-its-content/article65523336.ece		Trivial coverage on service offerings	? Unknown
https://www.financialexpress.com/business/sme-pocket-fmaudio-streaming-service-storytelling-that-powers-binge-listening-2690554/		Trivial coverage on service offerings	? Unknown
https://www.livemint.com/companies/news/pocket-fm-to-invest-40-mn-to-expand-online-reading-library-11708408857053.html		Trivial coverage on funding	? Unknown
https://www.financialexpress.com/business/brandwagon-pocket-fms-india-arm-registers-647-revenue-growth-losses-contracts-by-56-in-fy-2023-3355318/		Trivial coverage on the amount of revenue	? Unknown
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

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Kallakkadal

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This is not a distinct phenomenon, but rather a local name for swell surge used in coastal Kerala, also known by various names in other parts of the world. Presenting it as a distinct phenomenon is scientifically inaccurate. Additionally, this is not the Malayalam Wikipedia. Per WP:CFORK, this is an unnecessary content fork. The Doom Patrol (talk) 13:50, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Fair enough, and I agree that this would be better treated as a more general topic, but I note that Swell (ocean) does not actually contain the term "swell surge", and does not seem to cover this type of phenomenon. Thus more a case for rewriting and generalizing than for redirecting or deleting? --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 14:36, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge: The article primarily focuses on the swell phenomenon specific to the South Indian coastal region and its local name, "Kallakadal," within the broader context of swells. This is the main distinction highlighted in the article. I recommend merging this content with the Swell (ocean) and adding a brief section under a new headline to address this regional phenomenon (if required).--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 15:23, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - it’s basically a WP:FORK, but I won’t oppose a smerge. Bearian (talk) 03:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kumaar

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Fails WP:NMUSICIAN. Looking at the listed films, I cannot see where he is mentioned on some and the others I do find him in are not supported by the sources used. A WP:BEFORE finds no significant coverage. There is also some FAKEREFerences used such as those for the awards. The one he apparently won does NOT show the award won, only lists his name as a nomination. CNMall41 (talk) 02:17, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Keep. He is the lyricist of many songs and found some articles (reliable like Gaana, some aren't) [17] [18] [19]. Add citation needed to the award in question. DareshMohan (talk) 02:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, I cannot find a reference to support the award so a citation needed tag would not suffice. The other references are not reliable. The first is a redaction of what was posted on Instagram, the second is WP:NEWSORGINDIA, and the third is all quotes from the subject (it also shows a byline but posted by Odisha Diary Bureau which indicates it could be a paid placement - not assuming it is but not the strongest of sources). --CNMall41 (talk) 18:44, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete:It is evident that the subject does not adhere to the WP:GNG and WP:NMUSIC criteria. From my research, only have some routine coverage and the majority of sources are not good enough. Furthermore, some of the few news stories available from internet have no bylines which means that they are mostly paid. 111.92.70.85 (talk) 13:23, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What evidence do you have to support your claim? The sources found online contradict your statement. Could you please clarify your position?; — MimsMENTOR ^talk 10:14, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: It is surprising that the subject is noted as not passing WP:NMUSICIAN, as reliable sources can be found online to meet the criteria for WP:BIO and WP:GNG. However, the subject is more commonly known as "Kumaar" rather than the original name "Rakesh Kumar Pal," which might be causing difficulty in finding reliable sources. The subject has made significant contributions to mainstream Bollywood, including three Filmfare Award nominations (2017, 2019, and 2024) for lyricist work in the popular films Jawan, Sonu Ke Titu Ki Sweety, and Roy (film). Additionally, the subject has won awards at Zee Cine Awards 2024 and Mirchi Music Awards 2023, both of which are highly regarded platforms in India. Based on these accomplishments, a strong case can be made to retain the independent article.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 09:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is that winning an award under C7 does not guarantee notability. The guideline says someone "may be notable," indicating that they are likely to have significant coverage. The links you provided just shows the name and the award, no other context. So yes, the nominations and award can be verified, but there is no significant coverage of the person which is still a requirement. Note the specific wording of WP:NMUSICIAN - " and no criterion listed in this page confers an exemption from having to reliably source the article just because passage of the criterion has been claimed."

CNMall41 (talk), I agree with your mentioning of the wording from WP:NMUSICIAN. However, it's important to note that the phrasing does not justify deleting the article simply because "significant coverage" hasn't been found yet, as opposed to the availability of "reliable sources." Additionally, an article doesn't need to meet 100% of the criteria to qualify as a stand-alone entry. The focus should be on adding more sources that provide significant coverage, as the notability guidelines are still met.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 18:33, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that we do not delete something in the absent of sources present on a page. However, if we have searched for sources an do not find significant coverage, then delete would be appropriate. There would be a difference between sources that exist but are not and the page and sources that do not exist. I have tried to find significant coverage and have been unable to locate.--CNMall41 (talk) 18:42, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here, I am providing references that demonstrate "significant coverage." While some of these sources may be questionable or weaker in terms of "reliability," they do fulfill the requirement for significant coverage. Please note, significant coverage means more than a brief mention, but it doesn't necessarily have to be the primary focus of the source material since the article already passes WP:NMUSICIAN and WP:GNG.

"I’m the best caller tune writer" - Kumaar
Lyricist Kumaar to bring back 'Ishq Tera Tadpave'
मदर्स डे:'बेबी डॉल' के गीतकार कुमार ने भास्कर के लिए लिखीं खास पंक्तियां - मां संसार बनाती है, मां संस्कार बनाती है - Hindi language
Lyricist Kumaar calls 'Pathaan' a 'blockbuster' as he poses with Shah Rukh Khan, Deepika Padukone and John Abraham at special screening - See photos
Lyricist Kumaar celeberates birthday with friends and relatives
Lyricist Kumaar confesses about why writers are compelled to fight for their rights
Eveyone Ask Me Hook Line Kya Hai Says Lyricist Kumaar
Singer Mika Singh gifts lyricist Kumaar a diamond ring worth ₹18 Lakh – See pic
Kumaar Biography--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 19:20, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for providing those. Here is my take as I already reviewed some of these in the WP:BEFORE.

Filmfare, not independent. This is an interview with the majority (if not all) information provided by the subject.

Radio and Music, falls under NEWSORGINDIA and not reliable. The clearest signs is the byline of "RnMTeam" instead of an actual writer; and, the article starting with the location which is where the news came from which is often based on a press release or information provided by the subject.

bhaskar.com, This may be lost in translation but what I got from this is it says he has written more than 100 songs for films. That is a statement of notability, but nothing much there other than that and the fact he wrote a song for Mother's Day. Could maybe be used for notability if there are some additional that can be pooled with.

ToI, reports on a statement he made about a film, but nothing significant "about" him. The article, which is also void of a byline, simply quotes what the subject wrote on Instagram.

Bollywood Hungama, reliable source, but it is simply a bunch of pics from his birthday party. No context and not significant. More of a tabloid piece.

Bollywood Bubble, I did not check the reliability of the publication, but assuming it is, the reference is still an interview and not independent.

Bollyy.com, Another non-bylined piece. Also a redacted interview. A few paragraphs with some quotes.

Business Upturn, cool story about being gifted a ring. Tabloid news and pretty much summarizes what the subject has on their Instagram page.

Veethi], a bio listing which is not something we can use for notability.

At this point I would think there is more coverage if the source above is correct about writing songs for over 100 films. I just don't see it unfortunately. Are there possible name variations you would suggest I search for? Based on the claim of notability, I would love to save the page but we need the sources to do so. --CNMall41 (talk) 00:12, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As I have been unable to find sources that comprehensively list all of the subject's works, I am concluding my part of the discussion here. However, I strongly oppose the deletion of this article. It already meets the criteria outlined in WP:BIO, WP:GNG and WP:NMUSICIAN. The inability to find a complete work history should not warrant deletion, as many articles would not meet this standard under similar circumstances. Deleting an article simply due to incomplete citations is not necessary when the subject's notability is already established by existing guidelines.

I encourage the author and other editors to focus on adding more reliable citations to strengthen the article and address the concerns raised by the nominating user. Expanding the list of references and ensuring accurate citations will not only enhance the article's credibility but also help in fulfilling the request for additional sources. Thank you for the discussion, and I hope further contributions will improve the article's quality and completeness. — MimsMENTOR ^talk 06:43, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dipali Goenka

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A promotional biography of a businesswoman fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. None of the sources constitute WP:SIGCOV. Also, Wikipedia is not a resume hosting site WP:NOTRESUME. Also, the entire page is dominated by company references, while her personal references are limited to either WP:ROUTINE or WP:ADMASQ. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 05:13, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople and India. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 05:13, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Maharashtra, and Rajasthan. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:13, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment There has been some misleading promotionalism in this article: in Recognition it said "Forbes magazine named her as the 16th most powerful woman in Asia and the 4th in India in 2016", but she was listed 16th in a list which explicitly states "this list -- which is presented alphabetically and is not intended to be a ranking". (I've edited this). This suggests that all sourcing needs very careful checking. PamD 08:11, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I’m not going to waste my time and yours with a detailed analysis of the made up in one day award and passing mentions. Suffice to say that she’s not notable. We’ve seen a lot of those pages, but in 2024 everyone knows we are not a free website listing everyone who runs a large business. Bearian (talk) 16:38, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep i am sorry but she is not the run of the mill businesswoman. She heads world’s one the largest textile companies. Forbes ranked her as the 16th most powerful woman in Asia. She has represented India at various international forums, including Harvard India and the World Economic Forum, and has chaired and served on the boards of major organizations. Agree with you and the page nomination about the promotional language in the article. Thus made significant improvements and removed promotional content/language and unnecessary sources and added more sigcov sources. There are lots of sources on google·Also created lawsuit for neutrality.she passes WP:GNG.Ashwithride (talk) 12:12, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Forbes lists her as the 16th, alphabetically, in a list of 50 most powerful women in Asia which explicitly says that it "is presented alphabetically and is not intended to be a ranking" (even if a Forbes India writer seems to misunderstand this). I corrected the statement in the "Recognition" section, but hadn't noticed that it was also misprepresented in the lead, which I have now corrected. The enthusiasm which some editors have for misrepresenting this listing makes one cautious about other claims, which should all be very carefully checked. PamD 13:06, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note that User:Ashwithride created the article and appears not to have edited any other articles in en.wiki since creating their account on 9 July 20204. PamD 13:16, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note that, in parallel, There was an attempt to remove controversies from Welspun Living's page on 13 February 2024, Welspun Corp's page got updated on 24 May 2024, Welspun Group name changed to Welspun World, and page got updated too on 12 June 2024; Dipali Goenka's page created on 10 July 2024, Welspun Enterprises' page created on 14 October 2024. Most of these pages are flagged for conflicts of interest, making it appear as if this year is especially focused on Welspun activity on Wikipedia. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:59, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. There is an unbolded Keep vote here from the article creator so I'm relisting this discussion. Please review changes made to the article by Ashwithride since its nomination and judge whether they have led to an improvement in this article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:42, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Ashwithride added company-related information in Lawsuits, saying that the company was sued by American retailers for selling poor-quality products that were labeled as Egyptian cotton. However, there is not much detail provided on Dipali Goenka, and the cases were not directed at her. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 02:32, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
She is CEO and all of this happened under her leadership and was directed at her only as reported by below publications with much detail on Dipali

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/admitting-our-fault-was-a-game-changer-bk-goenka-on-the-welspun-vs-target-crisis/articleshow/58955424.cms?from=mdr

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/dipali-goenka-gives-a-high-tech-spin-to-get-welspun-back-on-target/articleshow/57391195.cms

https://www.businessinsider.in/thelife/personalities/news/who-is-welspun-ceo-dipali-goenka-dancing-video-and-full-profile/articleshow/74211823.cms

https://www.forbesindia.com/article/leadership/diversity-is-not-just-about-women-its-about-embracing-the-community-dipali-goenka/86283/1 Ashwithride (talk) 08:33, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ashwithride Read Wikipedia:INHERITED. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 10:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Sorry to relist this discussion again but we need more arguments from editors on what outcome you would like with this article and why.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:05, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The creating editor has not replied to my question on their talk page a week ago as to whether they had COI, so it is difficult to WP:AGF that they have none, in view of their repeated misleading claim of "16th most powerful". PamD 06:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My intention is not to mislead readers. All the information i have posted to this site are sourced from reputable sources and I have not introduced any personal interpretation. I had read several sources that wrote she was Asia's 16th most powerful woman such as

https://www.forbesindia.com/article/leadership/the-onus-of-empowering-women-lies-equally-on-women-too-dipali-goenka-of-welspun-india/86853/1,

https://www.weforum.org/people/dipali-goenka/

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/trends/features/if-you-want-the-nation-to-progress-then-you-need-to-empower-women-dipali-goenka-ceo-and-joint-md-welspun-india-6871561.html

https://www.rediff.com/business/report/pix-nita-ambani-most-powerful-businesswoman-in-asia/20160407.htm

https://www.businesstoday.in/magazine/business-today-leaders/story/mpw-2023-how-welspun-md-ceo-dipali-goenka-plans-to-reach-every-home-409190-2023-12-12

https://www.forbesindia.com/article/india-rich-list-2022/indias-100-richest-why-is-it-still-a-mans-world/81651/1

https://zeenews.india.com/india/welspun-india-ceo-dipali-goenka-shakes-her-leg-in-office-watch-video-2264983.html

Forbes article where author states the list is presented alphabetically and is not meant to be a ranking. However, the list itself does not seem alphabetical. For example, if it were in alphabetical order Arundhati Bhattacharya would be listed first and Nita Ambani second. The entire list does not seem to adhere to alphabetical order. Mint newspaper writes that Nita was Asia's most powerful woman and here in Forbes also she is listed first https://www.livemint.com/Consumer/Xa8BZ1WgsK2D5PiHUWXI6O/Nita-Ambani-most-powerful-businesswoman-in-Asia-Forbes.html

This is just my analysis I am not arguing or opposing "among the 50th most powerful woman in Aisa" this description is also fine and convey the same meaning. Ashwithride (talk) 08:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ashwithride Alphabetical lists usually go by surname, so Nita Ambani is listed by "Ambani" and Arundhati Bhattacharya by "Bhattacharya", and the list is in alphabetical order, as it states. The number of sources giving the false statement that she was "16th most powerful" is a sad reflection on accuracy in media other than Wikipedia, and illustrates how misinformation can be repeated. This is how fake news spreads. PamD 08:43, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Update: they have now stated that they have no personal or financial connection with the subject. PamD 08:37, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
Source assessment table:
https://www.forbesindia.com/article/leadership/the-onus-of-empowering-women-lies-equally-on-women-too-dipali-goenka-of-welspun-india/86853/1		Article written by their staff	WP:INTERVIEWS	✘ No
https://www.weforum.org/people/dipali-goenka/		?	Its just a profile at World Economic Forum	✘ No
https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/trends/features/if-you-want-the-nation-to-progress-then-you-need-to-empower-women-dipali-goenka-ceo-and-joint-md-welspun-india-6871561.html		No, its a republished article	? Full of own quotations	✘ No
https://www.rediff.com/business/report/pix-nita-ambani-most-powerful-businesswoman-in-asia/20160407.htm		?	it is just a list	? Unknown
https://www.businesstoday.in/magazine/business-today-leaders/story/mpw-2023-how-welspun-md-ceo-dipali-goenka-plans-to-reach-every-home-409190-2023-12-12	?		Its a routine announcement	✘ No
https://www.forbesindia.com/article/india-rich-list-2022/indias-100-richest-why-is-it-still-a-mans-world/81651/1			it is just a list	? Unknown
https://zeenews.india.com/india/welspun-india-ceo-dipali-goenka-shakes-her-leg-in-office-watch-video-2264983.html			WP:ROUTINE, WP:NOTNEWS	✘ No
https://www.livemint.com/Consumer/Xa8BZ1WgsK2D5PiHUWXI6O/Nita-Ambani-most-powerful-businesswoman-in-Asia-Forbes.html			it is just a list	? Unknown
https://www.financialexpress.com/life/lifestyle-who-is-dipali-goenka-ceo-of-rs-9400-crore-indian-brand-that-makes-wimbledon-towels-know-about-her-lifestyle-and-net-worth-3165355/			WP:ROUTINE WP:RSNOI	✘ No
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