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- Baloch genocide (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article has numerable issues, it relies on questionable sources, and as well as contains original research. But most of all, it seems to be a WP:POVFORK of Human rights abuses in Balochistan. It doesn’t have a really good verifiability argument. Any content that is reliable should be moved to the Human rights abuse page, as this page is better established and has more to say. This page just seems extremely unnecessary. VirtualVagabond (talk) 05:45, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yamaha RX-K / RX-King 135 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence of meeting WP:NPRODUCT * Pppery * it has begun... 04:24, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of Yamaha motorcycles. Failed to find any sufficient sources to support the article.
- Redirect per above. BilletsMauves€500 13:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - I added five-six sources; this motorcycle is frequently referred to as "legendary" in Indonesia and has significant secondary coverage, including from IDN Times and Autos.id. Mr.choppers | ✎ 18:44, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, I think. I agree that the sources added by Mr.choppers amount to significant coverage; I'm just not sure whether it's all reliable coverage, as I have no experience with Indonesian-language sources. -- asilvering (talk) 01:12, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Carll Goodpasture (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I have been looking for third party references to support this article but can find none, especially on the exhibitions and grants and awards categories. In addition, there are no references, other than links to primary sources from the subject person. I believe this is not notable and falls under under WP:NOTPUBLICFIGURE / WP:PRIMARY, and may violate WP:BASIC / WP:PHOTOGRAPHER / WP:AUTO. Maybe, if no references apply, the subject could be inserted into a relevant American photographer article. Shotgunheist 💬 04:51, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Lillebror Johansson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. Only primary sources provided. LibStar (talk) 03:24, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Joe Kerr (retired firefighter) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable political candidate. Of the 4 sources cited on the page, 2 are his own website and 1 is Ballotpedia. No in-depth news coverage and no claim to notability. Holding a mid-level position in a union and serving on a state board does not entitle someone to a Wikipedia page. Page creator seems to have a personal connection to Kerr, judging by the fact that they uploaded several pictures of him on Commons and tagged them as "own work." BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 02:42, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Running for office isn't notable. The article uses primary or un-RS and all I can find are interviews or "get to know your candidate" articles [1]. Non-notable career otherwise. Oaktree b (talk) 03:18, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails WP:NPOL in short. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 04:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Harry M. Rubin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Upon review of article and its sources, the person in question does not meet the notability guidelines in question: the person is not (1) cited by 3rd party sources other than websites that repeat his bio as an official founder of Samuel Adams beer (2) known for originating a new concept [see point #1] (3) become a significant monument, etc. (4) He is not cited as by peers and 3rd party sources for the work that is well-known or significant. The article was written by a blocked user and could primarily serve the purpose of self promotion as defined in WP:NOTADVERT. P3D7AQ09M6 (talk)
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- Delete. This is just a CV. No notability. ApLundell (talk) 05:01, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- If deleted Harry Rubin (virologist) should be moved to the base name since Harry Rubin redirects here.--67.70.101.117 (talk) 23:48, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Folks, My apologies, I actually meant to nominate Harry Rubin (virologist) Late night editing got the best of me. Upon a 2nd look at this article in particular, I found new reputable secondary sources to that show indeed this Harry Rubin was indeed a Samuel Adams co-founder. I'm closing going to close this deletion nomination in favor of doing some work to improve the article itself. P3D7AQ09M6 (talk) 04:28, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe delete both of them.
- Being a minor, behind-the-scenes partner of a business does not make someone notable.
- ApLundell (talk) 05:57, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- In the spirit of WP:GD I'm going to suggest that we pursue a constructive alternative such as improving or cleaning up the article. Two main reasons (1) Being one of the Samuel Adams founders both within the beverage field and just generally is definitely a major contribution. It looks he was not the frontman, but, indeed, he's been recognized by multiple secondary sources as being a founder and his involvement in various beverage investments is notable enough to be topic of headlines. As you probably know, media outlets have full control over headlines, which means that these media outlets viewed his involvement as "the story". On a more basic level, Samuel Adams is also billion dollar major conglomerate, it's widely recognized, and is part of the American social milieu (2) I digged into other secondary sources and there's quite a few other significant achievements such as being one of the people who started GT Interactive, which launched DOOM (a major video game) (3) This nomination was a careless mistake on my part so it's kind of a fluke nomination. My apologies again to all for that bonehead error and for wasting folks time reviewing this!
- re: Harry Rubin (virologist) Even though I intended to nominate it, I also now lean towards keeping it. Mostly because his achievements within his specific domain are quite significant.
- If we deny this deletion nomination, I can take an action item to improve both pages.P3D7AQ09M6 (talk) 22:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: See also AFD'ed C. M. Rubin, his partner. IgelRM (talk) 08:36, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Bukit Bintang Boys' Secondary School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnotable school does not satisfy WP:GNG, some editor decided to remove PROD with no improvements what so ever. N niyaz (talk) 00:45, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Just to clarify the timeline here, the article was deleted on July 13 after User:N niyaz's PROD expired. User:Auyongcheemeng made an undeletion request, saying
this is one of the few schools that predates the founding of Malaysia
, and the request was fulfilled on July 17, restoring the article. The PROD tag was correctly removed by an admin as part of the undeletion process. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 05:04, 20 July 2024 (UTC)- @Bsoyka Unfortunately being
'one of the few schools that predates the founding of Malaysia'
does not explain its failure in satisfying WP:GNG. For your information, there are thousands of schools that predates Malaysia's independence. And unless this school is a high achieving school which is rare, I don't see the school showing any significance. N niyaz (talk) 11:39, 20 July 2024 (UTC)- I agree. It was not that few for the number of schools during that time. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 15:03, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Bsoyka Unfortunately being
- This is one example a mission school set up by missionaries in the early days in pre-Malaysia days, not that 'rare' yes, but they are getting there. In the current and foreseeable future of political climate and increasing Islamisation of Malaysia the number of these type of schools are on the decline (462 nationwide, 227 in peninsular Malaysia in 2011 [1] down to 420 nationwide, 191 in peninsular Malaysia in 2024 [2]. [Not that many of these schools have wiki pages written]. These schools have contributed in the Malaysia's early days as a nation to produce current and former leaders/notable persons. [Bukit Bintang Boys' Secondary School] is no exception (see its list of alumni). Not many schools among the 10,000+ currently operating schools in Malaysia can attest to that. Bukit Bintang Girls' School (also was a mission school, but sadly no longer exists) a sister school involved in its founding of BBBSS has its wiki page preserved.C.M. Au Yong (talk) 03:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
I still stand by my earlier reasoning for this page to remain, being: historical and a pre-Malaysia school that has contributed to the early nation-building.C.M. Au Yong (talk) 03:55, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- The facts of significance you provided deserve a place at article such as Education in Malaysia instead of this school. The school is not inherent of notability because it has early contribution to humanities as a missionary establishment per WP:ORGSIG. The school is not inheritable of notability because it has notable alumni per WP:INHERITORG.
- Issue with this article is the history and other notable events sections fails to WP:PROVEIT with reliable sources. Other part could be just WP:MILL content. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 07:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sections that doesn't have verifiable/sources should be removed those cases, not an outright entire page removal. It doesn't help the case that the name "Bukit Bintang" is extremely SEO unfriendly as a casual web search with those terms will refer to "Jalan Bukit Bintang, Kuala Lumpur" the tourist spot, instead of the school. There are sources out there but they aren't electronic accessible/one dead trees for the most part/or buried in older web archives.C.M. Au Yong (talk) 15:07, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- There is just barely some digital traces that remain to this day, eg. mentioned in passing: BBBS & BBGS as major mission schools in the country in its day[3]. C.M. Au Yong (talk) 16:16, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- I assume removing them would leave nothing much left. A search at https://search.nlb.gov.sg/onesearch/Search?query=%22bukit+bintang+boys%22&cont=newspaper showing newspapers but irrelevant to article. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 04:26, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of schools in Selangor. Ong Kai Jin (talk) 03:38, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Wayne Alberts (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The provided sources are mentions and stats pages. Nothing else is available in Google. Shinadamina (talk) 01:33, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Royal Order of the Elephant of Godenu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The subject doesn't appear to have significant coverage in reliable sources. The references presently being used don't establish notability. toweli (talk) 01:24, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Royal Order of the Lion of Godenu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The subject doesn't appear to have significant coverage in reliable sources. The references presently being used don't establish notability. toweli (talk) 01:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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- WhatsApp University (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The term is indeed used in India. However, I don't think it has scope beyond a definition. It can be easily integrated in Fake news in India#Modes of distribution (WP:CFORK). Although start-class, it pretty much looks like a future repository for dumping all fake news spread on WhatsApp. For serious cases, there is already Indian WhatsApp lynchings. Gan Favourite (talk) 14:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect per WP:NEO. The topic is better covered in Fake news in India#Modes of distribution, and the term is not separately notable. Many of the sources here just contain uses of the term but actually cover the topic (and not the term). Maybe merge a brief mention of the definition in the NDTV article. hinnk (talk) 04:03, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
- Based on the references added, keeping my !vote as is. These links [2][3][4][5] were added to support discussion of a Kerala High Court case. None of these mention the case at all, and none discuss WhatsApp University beyond using the phrase in a headline (two are political cartoons). The statement that "The phrase has…been a subject of stand-up comics" is referenced to a short review of a single comedian, where the topic is recapped very briefly. To Grabup's question below, the existing coverage isn't significant, and we're seeing how trying to present it as such means misleading readers. hinnk (talk) 05:38, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: i added some of WP:RS references. and this phrase clearly passes WP:GNG. Youknow? (talk) 12:26, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Agree with @Youknowwhoistheman --BeLucky (talk) 13:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect I agree with @hinnk, the topic can be better covered in Fake news in India#Modes of distribution, other than the defination, there is not much to inside the scope of this article which cannot be put under the Fake news article. Xoocit (talk) 08:56, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Enough sources are cited to establish the subject's notability. In my opinion, if there can be a standalone article with sufficient coverage, what is the reason to redirect? GrabUp - Talk 03:28, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep for now. Sufficient sources have been added to make a reasonable case for inclusion. I am somewhat dubious that this will develop into a full article, so a merge could make more sense down the road. We can cross that bridge when we get there.--Mojo Hand (talk) 14:39, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: For now, however, should be reviosited and if still not fleshed out, should be Redirect as that would be the best move if there is still not much thereCassierREDDDD (talk) 07:54, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: It is a very common topic in India so it is notable. Perhaps a disambiguation page pointing later to the real Whatsapp University. Sectioneer (talk) 16:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Here's a stab at a source table. The strongest candidates appear to be a short article in the Navbharat Times, an opinion piece in The Hindu, and an in-depth blog post of questionable reliability. That last one is really a stretch, and I think we'd be hard-pressed to hit WP:3REFS. Even more so to get something large enough that it'd merit being split off from Fake news in India. hinnk (talk) 02:24, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Whatsapp University is a real University of India, They even have a Linkedin page
- https://www.linkedin.com/company/whatsapp-university/about/
- "A genuine global University with schools of Engineering, Law and Humanities. Aiming to be in QS Top 100 by 2033.
- Warning : Impersonators shall be Prosecuted or Shot." 106.210.38.218 (talk) 04:18, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Fake news in India#Modes of distribution; per WP:MERGETEXT. Not to say a term like this can't be used alone, see, e.g. Godi Media, a similar Indian term that has substantial references support - unlike here. Shotgunheist 💬 05:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Note, also, I just rolled back an addition about the actual "Whatsapp University" as it is patent nonsense with 4 followers on linkedin, and does not add to actual article notability being debated. Shotgunheist 💬 05:32, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- List of 20th Century Fox films (1980–1989) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This doesn't meet WP:NLIST / WP:GNG. It has no assertion of notability or references. Boleyn (talk) 22:32, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. The list is an obviously notable topic for a list (or set). The split into lists by years, including this one, exists only for navigation reasons. References can be added, easily but Afds are not for cleanup.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 03:21, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Question. I incline towards delete, in agreement with Boleyn, but I won't vote for the moment. However, I have a question: what is the point restricting it to the 1980s? There were certainly famous films (such as The Robe) well before that. Athel cb (talk) 13:55, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- There are several sibling lists for other decades, so the concept was clearly "split long list up into multiple sublists for convenience". If The Robe was from an earlier decade, thus, then it would simply belong in another decade's list. Bearcat (talk) 15:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy redirect Duplicates List_of_20th_Century_Fox_films_(1935–1999)#1980s, as do List of 20th Century Fox films (1935–1939), List of 20th Century Fox films (1970–1979), and List of 20th Century Fox films (1990–1999). If you're going to split the page, you have to finish the job. Reywas92Talk 14:48, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
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- G-Worldwide Entertainment (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Again, this article is deceptively written, creating an initial impression that it meets the criteria of WP:NCORP unless scrutinized closely. Critically fails WP:ORGCRIT, There is not even a single source from the article or WP:BEFORE to establish any context of notability. Being a nominee of The Beatz Awards is not significant enough to make it presumptively notable. Over all, fails WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:14, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete I agree with nom, none of the sourcing meets GNG/WP:NCORP criteria for establishing notability. HighKing++ 14:28, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Chuck Garcia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Promotional page for non-notable engineer and public speaker. I couldn't find any reliable sources via Google News or Newsbank Database (wider and deeper than Google). Fails WP:ANYBIO, WP:NPROF, WP:AUTHOR. Cabrils (talk) 00:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Manu Intiraymi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not sure this person passes WP:NACTOR, mostly minor roles. Can't find any reliable sources discussing them apart from the cited nytimes source which isn't specifically about Intiraymi, but mentions him in passing in 3 paragraphs of a rather long piece about the state of the entertainment industry in LA in the late 1990s. Other sources I have been able to find are Star Trek fansites, which I wouldn't consider significant coverage. Hemiauchenia (talk) 00:08, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete — Re WP:NACTOR, this subject has played a significant role in Star Trek: Voyager. But I am not finding that his role in One Tree Hill (TV series) was very significant. And it would take one or two more solid ones to find that he did so in multiple productions. The subject also fails WP:ANYBIO for lack of in-depth biographical coverage by unrelated parties. JFHJr (㊟) 00:23, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, but also JFHjr, who touches on ANYBIO. I think this is a fundamental fail. Perhaps when their career trajectory continues in the way they want it, it'll be different. Not quite now though. ——Serial Number 54129 00:48, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe WP:TOOSOON? JFHJr (㊟) 01:43, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- ^ "Mission schools in Malaysia". The Edge Malaysia. Retrieved 2024-07-23.
- ^ "Directory of Christian Mission Schools in Malaysian (2024)" (PDF). Federation of Christian Schools Malaysia. Retrieved 2024-07-23.)
- ^ ""A Christian's response to ACIS seminar — Stephen Ng"". www.malaymail.com. Retrieved 2024-07-24.