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May 2024 NPP backlog drive – Points award

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Siachen Base Camp (Pakistan) Declined Reason

Greetings,

With reference to the page Siachen Base Camp (Pakistan) which I wrote, I recieved a notification of it being declined by you.

Can you kindly tell me what particular part was problematic? I wish to rectify that so that I may publish this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markhor777 (talkcontribs) 22:10, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Hey!

Just wanted to drop a quick message in regards to the above - I've moved your acceptance to National Eligibility Cum Entrance Test Controversy per WP:NPOVTITLE - just a curtesy note and awareness of the above if you come across similar before. I couldn't really find any sourcing using the previous title and references to "scam" seemed to not be universal in the sources the article cited. The accepted page also had some copyvio issues and close paraphrasing which were missed on your review. It also needed substantial copyediting to get into the right state for mainspace, but I'm less worried about this as this isn't a criteria for review. Thanks for reviewing it, however just wanted to flag up the copyvio check in particular being missed as there were several warning flags as to there being copy-paste issues - happy to discuss this offline if you wish? I messed up as well by removing them and failing to tag them for revdel, so I'm hardly perfect in this case either! Mdann52 (talk) 14:13, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

I think 2024 NEET controversy would be the better title. Ratnahastin (talk) 14:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
I'm open to discussing it - especially if NEET is the common name (whether we need the year, though, is another question, see WP:DAB. Feel free to start a move discussion, however having "scam" in the title is (usually) a red flag for me. Mdann52 (talk) 14:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm not a regular at AfD - does a close of "No Consensus" mean you can "blank the page, delete its history, and redirect"? Especially when you yourself were the nom? Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/my edits) 03:39, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

"No consensus" means there is no agreement over any outcome. Since enough editors supported drafting and title change I went along with that. Also see this discussion. Ratnahastin (talk) 03:46, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
But you have not just draftified the article. You've redirected the draft to another article which carries over no material that discusses the specific dynamic between Rajputs and Mughals. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/my edits) 04:03, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Reading it more closely, it appears the new article indeed includes it, but under Political marriages in India#Kachwahas, which seems pretty random to me. Why aren't the Mughals under their own section? Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/my edits) 04:14, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
You are free to create a section of Mughals for the instances that involved political marriages. Ratnahastin (talk) 04:29, 12 June 2024 (UTC)
Will do! I will be busy until August though.
Could you also explain why you went through a roundabout process of draftifying the page (in the process getting the original title deleted), changing the draft title, and then mainspacing the new title with "newly" created redirects from the old title? Now when you click on Rajput Mughal marriage alliances (and go to the page itself, not the Political marriages page) and check its history, it appears as though "Rajput Mughal marriage alliances" never existed and was only created by you as a redirect. I don't have much experience with forking and merging articles (the only one I've ever done is New Parliament House, New Delhi which was a fairly straightforward affair) so I want to know if this is a normal thing to do.
Lastly, I don't know why you called this section SYNTH. All of it is cited to recent books and follows a logical order (although poor in prose). WP:SYNTH refers specifically to original research that combines facts from multiple sources to make a claim that no single source did - aka doing the work of a secondary source. I do not see how that could possibly apply to the lead section that you removed. Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/my edits) 05:18, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Alexandra Larosa

Hi, I wanted to warn you that the draft that you rightly rejected (among other things badly titled but that's the least of the problems) actually replicates an article already present on the English Wikipedia, Roxelana. Sira Aspera (talk) 13:00, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

Regarding deletion discussion on Nizam's Carnatic campaigns (1725-27) article

Hi,

The article Nizam's Carnatic campaigns (1725-27) has been proposed for deletion .

You may participate in the deletion discussion of this article.

Regards. Mohammad Umar Ali (talk) 19:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Hey Ratnahastin, Hope you are awesome! Thank you for your contribution on Wikimedia. Youknowwhoistheman (talk) 09:39, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. Ratnahastin (talk) 09:42, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Concern regarding a sock user

I've found 2 more socks of Aditya Nakul, User:Roberthooke003 and User:Hipnotics77 Hashid Khan (talk) 07:02, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

@Ratnahastin Roberthooke003 has even reported you as a sock Here Hashid Khan (talk) 07:07, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
@Hashid Khan: Thanks for notifying me, I've added them to the SPI [1], in regards to Hipnotics77, I believe they are a sock of Ribosome786. See this for more information. Ratnahastin (talk) 07:16, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Improper source

Hello i wanted to ask how can i properly source in my draft. Gara67 (talk) 18:40, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Request on 24 June 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Rupumped


Thank you for your review of my draft page. You were right: the article did come across as similar to an advertisement. I have endeavored to make the entry more encyclopedic and resubmitted the page for review. Please let me know if you would recommend additional edits. Also, please note that all of the references cited were independent and/or peer-reviewed.

Rupumped (talk) 11:18, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

You probably confused it with Bokan (surname). - Altenmann >talk 15:21, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

This redirect was a part of large scale page move vandalism by a sockfarm [2] and subsequent hijacking as a caste article [3]. But I think you're correct,i should've restored this revision instead. Ratnahastin (talk) 15:29, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Artemis 6

can you take a look at the draft for Artemis 6 - the article is cited now Thistheyear2023 (talk) 01:24, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

July 2024

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Rajiv Dixit. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Concern regarding constant vandalism of Rajput history

users like Flemmish Nietzsche imperialAficionado and sock puppets of AdityaNakul like user:Dooblts are constantly vandalising rajput history pages on wikipedia and pushing Muslim POV. This people run a group on instagram named Gazwa-e-hind where they plan their next move on wikipedia. You would find all of them responding together at delete disscussions etc. Please take some action against these users. 2409:4085:1E03:E54C:192:38AF:4B56:E1BB (talk) 02:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

@Ranadhira @Abecedare please do something about these meatpuppets and sockpuppets. 2409:4085:1E03:E54C:192:38AF:4B56:E1BB (talk) 02:59, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
Yes, please do something about me improving articles and voting with policy-based arguments in deletion discussions. I can assure you me and Imperial are not pushing a "Muslim POV"; additionally mentioning their instagram group is WP:OUTING, which is not allowed here. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 03:01, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
not pushing muslim pov?? What's this? In Mewar-Delhi wars Both you and imperial are on same sides arguing to delete this page, meanwhile Here Maratha-Nizam wars imperial and a sock of adityanakul, Deepstonev are arguing to keep the page. literally more than half of your and imperial's edits are based on muslims. 2409:4085:1E03:E54C:192:38AF:4B56:E1BB (talk) 03:17, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
"Are based on muslims"? Editing in a topic area related to former Muslim states in no way means I or Imperial are trying to push a "Muslim POV"; just because socks happened to vote the same way I or Imperial have in no way means we are connected to them. As you clearly fall into one of the sockfarm groups which oppose the AdityaNakul group (as otherwise your first edits wouldn't be accusing someone of being a sock from that group), would you mind sharing with us which one you are a member of? InfoHistoric23, Mr Anonymous 699, R2dra, or another group? Or are they all connected? Thanks. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 03:21, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
I'm just a regular wikipedia reader. Yes your edits are based on muslims check your own contributions. You and your meatpuppet User:Dooblts disscussed to change the name of Vijayanagar empire to Vijayanagar Kingdom to exploit hindu history here and your meatpuppet left a message on your user talk to delete battles of idar and rana sanga's invasion of Gujrat pages in order to exploit rajput history here. 2409:4085:1E03:E54C:192:38AF:4B56:E1BB (talk) 04:04, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
You even tried to defend sock puppets Ribosome786 and Aryaputram7 at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AdityaNakul/Archive#12 May 2024. 2409:4085:1E03:E54C:192:38AF:4B56:E1BB (talk) 04:13, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
requesting @Abecedare,@Bbb23,@Ivanvector,@Ratnahastin,@Ponyo, @Explicit, @Girth Summit, @Blablubbs to look into this matter 2409:4085:1E03:E54C:192:38AF:4B56:E1BB (talk) 04:19, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
I wasn't "defending" those sock puppets; I made that statement because there wasn't enough evidence presented by Based Kashmiri (who also turned out to be a sock) at the time to support that they were socks, which they did turn out to be, which is fine. I also replied to Dooblts that a name change to "Vijayanagar Kingdom" would not be appropriate under WP:COMMONNAME; I was not conspiring some evil plot with him to downplay the strength of Vijayanagara, and those messages on my talk page were due to past interactions I had with DeepstoneV before I knew he was a sock, as Dooblts is likely a sock of Adityanakul as you said, or else I don't see why he would know to contact me. You're not fooling anyone here that you're just some innocent Wikipedia reader, and those pings are highly unnecessary. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 04:26, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
There has been a mess with many Rajput articles that went unnoticed for years. When I started pointing out this mess, you got upset. First, you need to stop your mentality of religious polarization. Exploiting Hindu history seriously?. If you don't address this, you'll keep focusing on it unnecessarily, which isn't a big deal. Dooblts (talk) 09:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 Confirmed sock of AdityaNakul. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 00:30, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Illogical articles created by a meatpuppet

Hey Ratnahastin, I've found certain pages created by a same user which don't pass WP:GNG and are completely fabricated, see these articles Siege of Kota, Battle of Merta (1754), Battle of Didwana i can't find names of these battles in any of the sources Moreover all of these are created by a same user Chauth collecter who is a maratha pov pusher see this user page 2409:4052:248C:18D7:2C0D:5B13:D42C:CA0D (talk) 04:33, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 25

Anonymous Abhira

This user Anonymous Abhira is abusing rajput community in edit summaries, please request some admin to block him. All of his edits are anti rajput 2409:4052:2E8E:5312:44A5:108E:C439:4F5B (talk) 15:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Delete discussions

Hey Ratnahastin, Can you take part in these delete discussions: Battle of Bhutala, Conquest of Sindan, Jhala Man Singh Raged Pratihar (talk) 12:40, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

This editor has been blocked as a sockpuppet. Liz Read! Talk! 23:42, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Review

Hello @Ratnahastin, just noticed that you are a new page reviewer. The pages Kingdom of Gujarat, Kingdom of Malwa and Kingdom of Kannauj have not been reviewed yet. Could you please review them? PadFoot (talk) 17:57, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, mate. PadFoot (talk) 13:12, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Return of a sock puppet

@Bakarwal Rajat is a sock puppet of the well known koli pov pusher Thakor Sumant Jhala and has removed content from Chavada and Guhila and made them ad redirects, being a new account he is giving me warning. 2409:4052:4D8D:7B13:BC6C:D7FB:C587:DFF7 (talk) 04:10, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Contact

Hey Mate, can i get your E-mail address 2409:4052:4D8D:7B13:60EE:8EBC:BBB0:6CCD (talk) 15:27, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Ratnahastin Can you just once check these pages Guhila (clan), Johiya, Vala (clan), Rana (clan) , Chapa and Jethwa Some blocked Jat and Koli pov pushers had added unreliable data here, for example on Guhila clan a fictional novel is used as a source for Jat gotra of Guhila. 2409:4052:2E37:B7D5:7159:8F02:F3EF:18E0 (talk) 17:21, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

And on Johiya a Jat pov pusher removed sourced info and on chapa and rana clan someone did redirect hijack 2409:4052:2E37:B7D5:7159:8F02:F3EF:18E0 (talk) 17:23, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

More of them

Hello @Ratnahastin, we have got another sockpuppet [4] of the Anujror group at the RM. PadFoot (talk) 07:12, 20 August 2024 (UTC)

hi @Ratnahastin , the creator of Draft:Campaigns of Gwalior, Dholpur And Mandril is a sock of @AdityaNakul has same editing style and this page was created on sandbox of Kemiliogolgi once. And creator of Siege of Kalinjar (1544) is too his account NorthSiderRock (talk) 13:36, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
I was looking to file a SPI as Siege of Kalinjar (1544) showed up in my AFC feed but thanks for notifying me about that other account. Ratnahastin (talk) 02:58, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Vandalism of Guhila !friendly expedition

106.66.41.114 (talk) 14:04, 22 August 2024 (UTC)

AdityaNakul

Hello ratnahastin, Expendition to Kalinjar (1531)is created by sock of Aditya nakul ip editing, please take action. 2409:4052:2E91:9C6D:318:CEB8:2D1F:ABC3 (talk) 04:03, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

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Mughal conquest of Mewar

Hello @Ratnahastin , I have concern regarding Mughal conquest of Mewar, this article is clearly a pov pushing article.

  • No such battle named Mughal conquest of Mewar ever happened, Shah Jahan harrassed local civilians but no battle happened.
  • this wasn't military conflict, it was a treaty signed by Amar Singh, you can confirm from the article it doesn't have anything written about this battle but a military infobox is used
  • According to the treaty Chittorgarh was returned to Amar Singh so how is it a Mughal victory.

2409:4052:4D3D:8741:B4F:3B1A:BB81:57F4 (talk) 02:09, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Edit to Savarkar

The edit was very much warranted to give the historical personality who has a lot of respect in India his due If you are arguing from neutrality point of view I have used the same exact word as was used for jawaharlal nehru. Further in the wikipedia page of Nathuram godse,M K Gandhi has beend referred to as Mahatma. This smells of selective neutrality which is not neutrality at all Osalil (talk) 03:44, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

It is written there that Savarkar had written mercy petitions to the British government and accepted their legitimacy. Thus, he cannot be called an "anti-colonial nationalist", unlike Jawaharlal Nehru who played a significant role in eliminating the British rule.
@Osalil: Mahatma Gandhi is a WP:COMMONNAME just like Bill Clinton and Mother Teresa. Almost nobody refers to them by their birth names. Ratnahastin (talk) 05:46, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Sock

Hello bro, WhiteReaperPM has returned,GroovyGrinster making same edits like Whitereaper, creating pages with maratha victory, creating pages of Malik Kafur and Khijli invasions. Even pushing Marattat pov on Battle of Purander 1. Please reach out any admin as no action is still taken on his soc investigation page 2409:4052:4D81:F6D6:C993:C6BA:5EA:4F31 (talk) 12:17, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Already filed, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/WhiteReaperPM#30_August_2024. Ratnahastin (talk) 17:17, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Your user name is red in color. What does it mean?

This user's name comes up in color red in my user talk page as well as Jimbo Wales user talk page. Is this user still active?

I want to report this user for bigotry, white supremacy, anti-democracy, and racism.

Please help. Telugujoshi (talk) 03:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Telugujoshi You can report me at WP:ANI. That is the best venue for the issues such as this one. Ratnahastin (talk) 03:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Thank you my friend from north of vindhyas. I love swapna vasaavadatta very much. But then my ancestors were under Pulikesin II ("rendava pulakeshi" in Telugu) who stopped Harsha Vardhana enreing the south. Do you consider south of vindhya folks as dasyu?
In any case, I will report you for bigotry, "Western government" supremacism, referencing Ravish Kumar's Wikipedia page. You very well know that Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Telugujoshi (talk) 03:33, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia (including The Signpost)
WP:RSPWP 📌 Generally unreliable +22[bq]
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September 2024

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Your recent editing history at Port Blair shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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Hello

Hello @Ratnahastin, I have concern regarding 2 pages

1. Khijli invasion of Jaisalmer, here 4 sources are used multiple times, 2nd 3rd and 4th sources aren't even history sources and 1st source is used more than 10 times. And even the author mentions that "no Muslim chronicle mentions about this battle but local ballads do", this page doesn't even have a single reliable source.

2. Alauddin Khalji's Conquest of North India same here, 1st source is used more than 30 times!!! Moreover its completely based on a single book, and this page targets Rajputs see Alauddin Khalji's Conquest of North India#Causes of Rajput Defeat.

Please nominate it for deletion 2409:4085:E4A:7237:B1AF:D57A:D0CF:38E (talk) 15:41, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

bharwad

No one in the talk page wants to answer because how can people with anti-racist and biased information agree? CreatorGen (talk) 14:35, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

@CreatorGen: What exactly are you trying to say? Ratnahastin (talk) 14:38, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Can you tell me how to get all consent? Because there is no response in the talk page CreatorGen (talk) 14:40, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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Your revert actions on the RC Majumdar

Your citations on Majumdar being a Hindu Nationalist do not comply with Wikipedias rule of conduct. They mention this in passing rather then proving it to be fact. Furthermore future references (Ahir, 2022) also contradict the same. 2409:40D0:C:D15:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 05:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Furthermore the references cited by You are not academic in nature, which in itself is not a problem if proper methodology is used which unfortunately is not used, furthermore no citation exist in Your references. I have upgraded the article with credible academic references. 2409:40D0:C:D15:1DD2:481:5588:869D (talk) 06:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Those sources are scholarly. They are only stating a common fact. You have to describe how the source contradicts the information. Ratnahastin (talk) 07:19, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
They are not stating a "common fact". No historian considers Majumdar a Hindu Nationalist, a nationalist yes but not a hindu nationalist. The sources makes a revisionist claim and does not justify it at all rather just mentions it in passing. Your source (Ahir, 2018) mentions Majumdar as a Nationalist historian and not a Hindu nationalist, these are not light words to throw around and your sources do not justify it at all. Nothingbutthetruth2006 (talk) 08:58, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
You are simply falsifying the sources. Nobody is using any "Ahir 2018" to state he was a Hindu nationalist. Ratnahastin (talk) 10:21, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
I am not any falsifying sources. You on the other hand are using sources that do not prove anything and act as nothing more then empty fodder, Furthermore the Ahir, 2018 refers to "History Of Modern India" (Spectrum). Which is used as a citation for the claim that he primarly studied Indian history. In that book he is clearly referred to as a "Nationalist" historian while the section of "Communalist" historians also exist where he is not classified as such. Your own sources contradict your claims of him being a Hindu Nationalist (for which to begin with your sources are very weak to begin with). They do not prove that he was a Hindu Nationalist, they just mention it in passing and is expected to be treated as gospel. My sources explain his classification and his contributions to the field, kindly get better sources. Nothingbutthetruth2006 (talk) 15:08, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Yes you are falsifying sources by falsifying their authenticity and that is disruptive editing. Similarly, you are still falsely claiming that "Your own sources contradict your claims of him being a Hindu Nationalist" when no such sources have been used by me until now. It has been already proven it to you that Ahir2018 was nowhere used for claiming him to be Hindu nationalist. It does not say anything like "Majumdar was not a Hindu nationalist but a nationalist" contrary to your deceptive claims. Ratnahastin (talk) 15:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Perhaps You should reread what I wrote I wrote if You can read it again that (Ahir, 2018) which is directly cited after the claim that he was a Hindu nationalist for the claim that he studied the history of India clearly mention that HE WAS NOT A COMMUNALIST, the citations after your claim that he was promoting communalist historiography relieve him of this argument. Clearly you dont know what Disruptive Editing means, I am actually making the article better by citing PROPER AUTHENTIC ACADEMIC SOURCES as opposed to your fundamentally hollow citations. Nothingbutthetruth2006 (talk) 18:56, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Lets Make Some Edits to the RC Majumdar Piece which will provide a more nuanced view.

What if we create a new subsection titled "Legacy" in which we discuss his legacy on the history profession of india. we can discuss both his appreciates and his critics. Nothingbutthetruth2006 (talk) 16:55, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

Sock of Anujror

Hello @Ratnahastin, the sock of Anujror has returned, he is Pov pushing on Pratihar Gurjars, please redirect it to Parihar (clan). 2409:4052:4E4A:845A:F86:11E8:902A:824B (talk) 03:51, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Maratha pov pusher

hello @Ratnahastin, Bargi 1431 is pushing maratha pov on battle pages like battles of Malpura, Lalsot, Fatehpur (1799) and Kakkor, and removing shivaji from battle of purander like other maratha sockpuppets. Please mail me at rajranajhala @gmail.com or @imperial.jhala Instagram. 2409:4052:4E4A:845A:96B7:D727:EAFC:ABAE (talk) 14:09, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Please revert his edit on battle of malpura 2409:4052:4E4A:845A:96B7:D727:EAFC:ABAE (talk) 14:40, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Have a look

Have a look at this. Can't verify the source this IP added. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:56, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

@Fylindfotberserk: The source states:
In 1943, the Mandal started a Marathi quarterly— Yadava Patnka —in Bombay, with S.V. Bhalekar, K.K. Khedekar and J.R. Yadava as editors. In 1946 they formed a trust and Yadavas of Bombay, Pune, Thana, Kathiawad and Kolhapur contributed open-heartedly, prominent donors were M.B. Kotkar Brothers (Bombay), Shanta Ram, Shamarao Ghole and Kashinath Gandpat Dage of Pune, and Bhalekar Brothers and Kamble Brothers of Bombay. Most of the Yddavas had associated themselves with the Marathas in the past, but they are trying to segregate themselves from that group and are establishing their independent identity as Yadavas.
The source is authored by J. N. Singh Yadav (who had an article here before being draftified and thereafter deleted).Here's an archived link. Ratnahastin (talk) 11:19, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Does this source explicitly include 'Gawlis' and 'Ahirs' under 'Yadavas'? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:28, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Yes, at page 221[5]
Maharashtra : Ahir, Gwala, Yadava, Golla, Gawli,.... Ratnahastin (talk) 11:39, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
@Fylindfotberserk:, I'm uncertain about reliability of the source too. Given that author identifies himself to be a member of the Yadav caste and there being no evidence of them being a historian,they have also worked with The All India Yadava Mahasabha, a caste organisation as per the preface.[6]
Also claims such as these:
Majority of the historians held false notions about this caste. Some scholars relying upon some puranic description held the view that ‘all the Yadavas perished in the fratricidal war at Dwaraka’, and hence there survived no Yadava. It is great fallacy and the historians have always misguided and misinterpreted this wrong notion. Yadavas, even in the days of Sri Krsna were divided in various branches and inhabited many different parts of India. So how could they all perish at one time and at one place? The Present study is an humble effort to sweep these misnomers and false notions
To me, this source seems like an attempt at fabricating ancient origin for their caste Ratnahastin (talk) 12:01, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

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Reagrding the page Yadav

Some users are adding non elite word in the page lead without establishing consensus, can you revert the same and warn the users to check WP:BURDEN Brandon42Paul (talk) 05:26, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

CSD tagging the socks

Hey, don't worry about it - I'm going through them now. Thanks though! -- asilvering (talk) 06:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

@Aslivering: Thank you so much. Ratnahastin (talk) 06:06, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Socks

Hey, did you see this? I have known about the SPI from the start since a CU mentioned it to me in a related discussion. I didn't comment on it because I didn't think it was worth my time. – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:12, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

@DreamRimmer: No, I was not aware of it at all but thanks for notifying ,I have added it to my watchlist. Also I do agree with checkuser's assessment that filer was a sock, I agree that the filer belonged to Hindukshatrana sockfarm.Ratnahastin (talk) 03:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, maybe they are trying to block us because we both filed SPI reports on those socks from this sockfarm. Those caste warriors are just wild, lol. – DreamRimmer (talk) 03:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Akshardham NJ

The talk page discussions and previous editorial consensus have determined that the lawsuit in question does not warrant inclusion in the article's introduction. This decision is based on several factors:

The lawsuit is not considered sufficiently relevant to the subject's primary notability. There are discrepancies in the allegations and facts surrounding the case. The information is already adequately covered in the article's history section.

As per the Wikipedia guideline WP:LEADCITE (Lead section guidelines), only the most salient and crucial information should be presented in the lead. This guideline advises against including peripheral details or contentious matters that are not central to the subject's notability in the introductory section. The lawsuit has been appropriately documented in the article's body for a considerable period, which adheres to Wikipedia's content organization principles. Adding it to the introduction would be redundant and potentially overemphasize its importance relative to other aspects of the subject. Ram112313 (talk) 07:59, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of contents on INSEAD

Hi, I found that you deleted more than 6000 characters that I added. To my view, the contents are well written and cited. Some of those contents I did align with another admin before posting. I would appreciate your constructive criticism on how to improve the contents instead of just outright deleting them, in Wikipedia spirits.

Are you up for such discussion?

Here are the points for discussion

  • My update of the Chairman to the latest effect. Can you let me know why the update of the change of personnel is promotional? How to improve?
| chairman               = [[KristinAndreas Skogen LundJacobs]]<ref>{{Cite news |last=HuangGallezo-Estaura |first=AileenKrisana |date=614 JuneJanuary 20242015 |title=Mrs.Meet Kristin Skogen Lund has beenINSEAD's appointednew Chairpersonchairman of the Boardboard of |url=http://sbr.com.sg/hr-education/exclusive/meet-insead%E2%80%99s-new-chairman-board Andreas |url-status=live |archive-url=https://wwwweb.inseadarchive.eduorg/newsweb/mrs20221201135751/https://sbr.com.sg/hr-kristin-skogen-lund-has-been-appointed-chairperson-board-directorseducation/exclusive/meet-insead%E2%80%99s-succeednew-mrchairman-andreas |archive-date=1 SeptemberDecember 2024 |access-date=5 October 2024board |publisher=INSEAD2022}}</ref>
  • The Name section: This section is purely about noting that Institut Européen d'Administration des Affaires is an obsolete name. How it is promotional and how to imrpove?
== The name ==
The name INSEAD was a contraction of "'''Institut Européen d'Administration des Affaires'''" ({{Literal translation|European Institute of Business Administration}})<ref>{{cite web |title=INSEAD Definition |url=https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/insead.asp#:~:text=Founded%20in%201957%2C%20INSEAD%20is,d'Administration%20des%20Affaires%22 |url-status=live |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20210414025109/https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/insead.asp#:~:text=Founded%20in%201957%2C%20INSEAD%20is,d'Administration%20des%20Affaires%22 |archive-date=14 April 2021 |access-date=13 April 2021 |publisher=Investopedia}}</ref>. However, after its opening of an Asia campus in early 2000s and its repositioning for a global mission , the university began to avoid using its old name, which included the specific place name "Europe". Now, only "INSEAD" is recognized as its official name <ref>{{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070927005151/http://www.insead.edu/alumni/career_services/index.htm|title=About Career Services for Graduates - INSEAD Official Website|date=2007年09月27日}}</ref>. The current logo has INSEAD wrapped in a circled filled with green, representing [[the globe]] and tagline "Business School for the World", signaling its global mission.
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  • Remake of the intro: I just summarize the fact from other sections. All with citation of third party sources. To me, they are factual summary of how business community know about the school. How can I improve to state the fact while make it neutral? Also, I deleted the old name for obsoletion reason. I guess this should not be reverted.
'''INSEAD''' ({{IPAc-en|ɪ|n|s|iː|æ|d}} {{respell|IN|see|ad}}),<ref>{{cite web |last1=Patil |first1=Pratyush |title=How to pronounce INSEAD? |url=https://intheknow.insead.edu/blog/how-pronounce-insead |publisher=INSEAD |access-date=23 April 2024 |archive-date=23 April 2024 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20240423213111/https://intheknow.insead.edu/blog/how-pronounce-insead |url-status=live }}</ref> is a non-profit [[Postgraduate education|graduate]] [[business school]] that maintains campuses in France (Europe Campus), Singapore (Asia Campus), and the United Arab Emirates (Middle East Campus). INSEAD is associated with [[Sorbonne University]] and in a strategic alliance with [[The Wharton School]]. The school is known for its emphasis on [[internationalism]], its advocacy for [[globalization]] and [[sustainability]] in business<ref>{{Cite web |last=Ethier |first=Marc |date=18 December 2023 |title=Poets&Quants' MBA Program Of The Year For 2023: INSEAD |url=https://poetsandquants.com/2023/12/18/poetsquants-mba-program-of-the-year-for-2023-insead/ |access-date=6 September 2024 |website=Poets&Quants |language=en-US}}</ref>, and [[List of INSEAD alumni|successful alumni]] in [[corporate]],<ref>{{cite news |title=Where did FT500 chief executives go to business school |newspaper=Financial Times|date=22 January 2016|url=https://www.ft.com/content/3a63c054-b885-11e5-b151-8e15c9a029fb |archive-url=https://ghostarchive.org/archive/20221210/https://www.ft.com/content/3a63c054-b885-11e5-b151-8e15c9a029fb |archive-date=10 December 2022 |url-access=subscription |url-status=live|last1=Palin|first1=Adam}}</ref><ref name=":0">{{Cite web |last=Goldberg |first=Robyn |date=14 September 2022 |title=University Alumni Rankings of the Wealthy and Influential 2022 |url=https://altrata.com/reports/university-alumni-report-2022/ |access-date=23 September 2022 |website=Altrata |archive-date=20 September 2022 |archive-url=https://archive.today/20220920051105/https://altrata.com/reports/university-alumni-report-2022/ |url-status=live }}</ref> [[entrepreneurship]]<ref>https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/pitchbook-university-rankings {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20240531045644/https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/pitchbook-university-rankings |date=31 May 2024 }} {{Bare URL inline|date=August 2024}}</ref><ref>https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/pitchbook-university-rankings {{Webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20240531045644/https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/pitchbook-university-rankings |date=31 May 2024 }} {{Bare URL inline|date=August 2024}}</ref><ref>{{cite web | url=https://poetsandquantsforexecs.com/uncategorized/poetsquants-top-100-mba-startups-of-2023/2/ | title=Poets&Quants' Top 100 MBA Startups of 2023 | date=3 October 2023 | access-date=24 May 2024 | archive-date=4 June 2024 | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20240604230229/https://poetsandquantsforexecs.com/uncategorized/poetsquants-top-100-mba-startups-of-2023/2/ | url-status=live }}</ref><ref>https://sifted.eu/articles/unicorn-universities {{Webarchive|url=https://archive.today/20240103114330/https://sifted.eu/articles/unicorn-universities|date=3 January 2024}} {{Bare URL inline|date=August 2024}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web |title=10 Years Saudi Arabia Founders Report |url=https://magnitt.com/research/10Y-saudi-arabia-founders-report-50931?utm_source=linkedin&utm_medium=philip&utm_campaign=2024foundersreport |access-date=15 September 2024 |website=magnitt.com}}</ref> and [[politics]].

There are other edits as well which I think are all good-willed reorganization of data.

Look forward to your guidance 116.110.40.157 (talk) 09:40, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

The changes you did to lead were promotional, especially this statement "and successful alumni in corporate,entrepreneurship and politics." You also removed the COI template[7] with a false edit summary that no discussion was initiated on the talkpage when clearly there was [8], can you explain why you did that? Ratnahastin (talk) 12:34, 6 October 2024 (UTC)

Sock

Hello @Ratnahastin, Rampyari Gurjar is created by a sock of User:Tejas pratihar, pushing the same gujjar pov, and ips of WhitereaperPM are pushing maratha pov on Siege of Barwara (1757) and Battle of Kakkor please check it 157.38.5.163 (talk) 09:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Operation desert hawk

why are u removing my edit? Bro Muhammad Ahsan2233 (talk) 09:02, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of contents on INSEAD (continued)

Hi, I tried to continue the talk but they don't seem to be editable anymore. So let's continue here 1. For the COI tag, if you check history you can see that the admins (I don't know if that's the right way to call them), GuardianH and Drmies have edited intensively after the discussion on the talk page. They have since also stopped revision or any discussion. As an amateur editor, I understand that they completed their addressing of the issues with contents.

2. For the introduction part where you said to be promotional. As I said, I summarized the fact from the Rankings and Reputation section that was edited by various admin, GuardianH and Drmies and JustAnotherWikiEditor, whom I talked to briefly. If you don't think the summary is justified, Let me know your suggestion for edit or just delete?

3. For other section where I update info, note about the obsoletion of the name... Please let me know what is the way to do. 125.235.239.142 (talk) 22:03, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Changes in the page Aniruddhacharya

I saw that you removed my contributions (specifically His teachings section) in the Aniruddhacharya page. I have well researched and I have took reference from the original Aniruddhacharya's official website, and I will definitely share the link if you want to research. Please look into this matter and tell me what I wrote wrong. Thanks for your precious time Kharavela Deva (talk) 08:08, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Bardi Dialect

It turns out that Baar di boli was the original title for that article. Apnawasebb moved it to Bardi Dialect (it should have been Bardi dialect but that's a redirect to Bardi language, an Australian language. I've moved it back to the original title. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 16:09, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

I see, I didn't notice that it was the original title. Ratnahastin (talk) 16:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
No worries it was somewhat bizarre because of the similarly name Australian language. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 17:22, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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Reverts and sev-2 notice

Hey @Ratnahastin, I see that you have reverted my edits citing misleading edit summary and also left a level-2 notice on my talk page. I had already left a message on talk page of original user who had added this content here which you reverted as well.

I would go to the talk page of the article but my edit was not an attempt at vandalism rather carefully reasoned after Wikipedia:Crime labels, see WP:LABELDEFINITION . Convicted label is a value laden statement, and suggested alternatives note listing of conviction without undue labelling. So, to use the label in both lead and short description was giving undue weightage [WP:UNDUE] when the details of conviction are already carried in infobox and in article in detail. Nisingh.8 (talk) 11:15, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

The article talk page is the place to discuss your edit. There is no need for it to be vandalism for you to start a discussion there. Phil Bridger (talk) 12:32, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Assistance request Regarding the Jawanmard paiez article

Hi dear @Ratnahastin , I hope you are doing well. can you review this article Jawanmard paiez.

thank you so much Parwiz ahmadi (talk) 06:21, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hey admin, Hope you’re doing good Here is an article ‘Political Marriages in India’ with alot of users causing destruction to its true contents. I request you to please put security on this page to prevent this. Thank you 103.46.201.1 (talk) 19:58, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I'm not an admin thus do not hold the power to protect pages. Ratnahastin (talk) 07:52, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Although, we had dispute on some articles. I must say, you have emerged as a prolific editor in recent times as I can see from your edits of past few months. Keep doing the good work. Adamantine123 (talk) 02:54, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Akshardham NJ edits

Thanks for your contributions to the Swaminarayan Akshardham page. I noticed, though, that your recent edits are heavily focused on the lawsuit, which gives the article an unbalanced feel. Wikipedia guidelines emphasize a Neutral Point of View (NPOV) to ensure topics are covered fairly. The lawsuit is already mentioned thoroughly, so focusing just on that without expanding other sections makes the article seem one-sided. The talk page had previously decided to keep the lawsuit out of the introduction and as seen with the recent talk section about it, the consensus is that it ruins the balance of the article and pushes a non NPOV view. Ram112313 (talk) 21:34, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Please refrain from reverting the article to add unconstructive non NPOV content in the header section. The revised section you revert does not refer to any of the updates of the case and does not give a neutral view of the article. The lawsuit has been discussed in depth already within the article as the other users have also said. General consensus between the users is to refrain from editing the introduction of the article until more updates of the case are given. Ram112313 (talk) 09:15, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

ANI notice from IP

Here's the threadMatrix(!) ping onewhen replying {u - t? - uselessc} 11:37, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Ratnahastin,
Regarding Adani Group, this is clearly a complex article but please allow other editors to make changes to the article without reverting them. No one owns an article on this project and while your contributions to it are very valuable and carefully made, other editors have a right to try to improve the article without seeing their work reverted without explanation. I've restored the IP's talk page comments because your justification for removing them was that you thought the IP was a sockpuppet which has not been confirmed. They seem to me to be legitimate comments challenging the article content that other editors might want to respond to. Thank you for your work. Liz Read! Talk! 03:08, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
@Liz: Nobody is going to "confirm" it for you if the IP is a sock of someone. See WP:CUIPDISCLOSE. This editor is a long term sock puppet and shouldn't be allowed per WP:DENY. You should revert your edit. Ratnahastin (talk) 03:22, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Changing the Hindu Mahasabha Wikipedia Page

Sir I recently did a change in the Wikipedia of the Hindu Mahasabha Wikipedia Page by removing the line that "They opposed the integration of the princely states into India." I request you to present the sources you used for this sentence. Nationalist711AD (talk) 18:15, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Read [9]. Ratnahastin (talk) 18:21, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Sir, with all due respect I request you to mention the exact line and page number of the source you provided. Nationalist711AD (talk) 18:46, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Copyeditor's Barnstar
Thank you for your edits at Gavli. Adamantine123 (talk) 12:45, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Thanks @Adamantine123:. - Ratnahastin (talk) 12:45, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

if u can delete things I could have too

removing questions and talk pages won't help u it isn't professional and please correct the sources, it shows how immature you are. Nationalist711AD (talk) 05:23, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I don't want to delete this, really, since it seems viable... Drmies (talk) 03:34, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

It seems to have been deleted now. - Ratnahastin (talk) 04:50, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello look your inaccurate information must be changed about Yadavs They were elite kings ruled and descendants of Shree Krishna Himself Th is my first warning. Please provide accurate info or you will be permenntly banned.! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharma Govinda (talkcontribs) 18:36, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

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Punjabis and Rajputs are not the same ethnic group

Greetings, It seems there is a bit of confusion between the term "Punjabi Rajput" in the context of Atishi Marlena. She identifies as a Punjabi Rajput because she has a Punjabi Mother (Tripta Wahi (Wahi is a Punjabi Khatri surname) and Vijay Singh (Singh is usually associated with Rajputs). By saying she comes from a Punjabi Rajput family, she means she is of both backgrounds. Both are not the same ethnic group. Another example is with Archana Puran Singh, as I provided a source which she herself states she is a Rajput not a Punjabi. No2WesternImperialism (talk) 22:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

This is plain original research on your part, if she has identified as Punjabi Rajput then we only report that per WP:CASTEID. We do not need to go through her parental background to see if her claims to her own identity or heritage are valid or not. - Ratnahastin (talk) 22:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

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Trouted

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: YOUR REASON HERE 115.79.136.174 (talk) 08:03, 19 November 2024 (UTC) Sri Vijay Puram is now the only name for the city in question. It has to be comprehensively followed. The reversion is a

Wikipedia follows WP:COMMONNAME, not WP:OFFICIALNAME. - Ratnahastin (talk) 08:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

G5 nominations of sockpuppet articles

The criterion only applies if the articles were written to evade a block. Since the master wasn’t blocked until Oct 31, it doesn’t apply to, e.g., Draft:DJ Natural Nate. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 03:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, will keep that in mind. - Ratnahastin (talk) 03:40, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

SPI

Hmmm, you paid attention... Very well! Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 07:35, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Hello, I was reviewing old articles in the new pages feed and came across the Sorathia article. When I tried to verify the information, the current sources didn't seem to support it. I saw that you restored the current content, so I wanted to ask if I am missing something. Could you please clarify? – DreamRimmer (talk) 08:01, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

@DreamRimmer: - The article was BLAR'ed by a block evading proxy used by Truthfindervert, this sockmaster has been following my contributions for a while now. I merely reverted it as one would revert a sock. If the sources do not back it, you can remove it. - Ratnahastin (talk) 08:10, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. Since neither of the sources supported the provided content, I've redirected it to the main article for now. – DreamRimmer (talk) 08:18, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

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Hello, Ratnahastin,
I got the same strange legal threat and reverted the edits but thought I'd leave it up to you whether you wanted to respond or remove this notice. The IP account has been blocked for a week. Liz Read! Talk! 07:15, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
@Liz: - They made same threats last time at User talk:ShymalWhatsappUniversity, so far no lawsuit has been filed. - Ratnahastin (talk) 07:17, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
I would imagine any attorney intending to represent him who actually saw these messages would tell him to stop hitting himself in the face with a legal hammer. These are pretty clearly baseless legal bullying one would expect from a sovereign citizen trying to ritual his way thru the court system. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 08:46, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

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Reply to comment at Draft:List of Bidens species

(my apologies if this is the incorrect way to reply)

The reason I had created a standalone list, instead of editing the article, was that I had intended to remove the species list at the Bidens article and include a link to the standalone list (similar to how the article Zephyranthes is structured) to make the article flow more neatly. Cayuga3 (talk) 16:32, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

I see. Thanks for clarification.- Ratnahastin (talk) 16:33, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Removing sourced information

Hey Admin, there is a user named @Drisha herjee who is again and again removing well cited contents from the page ‘Ahir clans’. Please advise the user not to do so and put only genuine information along with citations if wanna contribute to wikipedia pages. Thank you HistorianAlferedo (talk) 03:49, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Unauthorized revert

Why have you revered my comment here[10] Your edit summary is quite misleading- Since my comment mentioned accurate findings of investigation. Reverting an comments on AFD page is quite questionable, especially when my comment was having proper link which redirected to SPI consensus that clearly states- "No positive evidence[11]" SushasiniGupta (talk) 04:21, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Don't resort to direct accusations WP:NPA [12] SushasiniGupta (talk) 04:56, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
There was no personal attack there. - Ratnahastin (talk) 05:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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I have observed that you have a deep understanding of Indian media and the caste system in India. Through your insights, you are doing remarkable work on Wikimedia. Baqi:) (talk) 13:50, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, @Jannatulbaqi: - You are also doing a great job on a number of articles! - Ratnahastin (talk) 13:55, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
Welcome, and thank you for kind words:) Baqi:) (talk) 13:56, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

Unfamiliar information on Bhatti by Sock

Oh, hey Mr. Ratnahastin! What’s going on? Straightforwardly, I just want to examine a user who allegedly thrives as a caste invader.[13][14] But setting that aside, he seems more like a proxy of the Pakistani historian. What do you think? Additionally, he is sharing information at a party with a clear conflict of interest (WP:COI). I also want to confess that there is a resemblance between his editing patterns and those of alongside User:PakistanHistorian 2409:40D6:E2:BB84:5DBB:CAA4:6058:3A07 (talk) 13:12, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

User:Ratnahastin And can we also see, he lonely defecting the information of bhatti which seem to be questionable? my proxy is still workable due to air fibre malfunction my ip is blocked so please dont disguise me regardless of my insensitive editing 2409:40D6:E2:BB84:5DBB:CAA4:6058:3A07 (talk) 13:21, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
You can try asking Gotitbro, Fylindfotberserk, HistoryofIran and MaplesyrupSushi who are familiar with this sockfarm. - Ratnahastin (talk) 13:27, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
Oh sorry to say but i dont n anyone of this guys and for instance how to report his malicious activity before tracking the master can anyone revert his latest edit they dont make even sense reagrdless of unsourced assertion um can you do it for me, anyway thanks for sick advocation
@Ratnahastin 2409:40D6:E2:BB84:5DBB:CAA4:6058:3A07 (talk) 13:32, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
and listen all of the source are deliverability fragged under WP:RAJ just like he did in section of Bhatti#History how he can dramatised for what an ibbestion yeah just seriously dude buzz that goofy editing he embedded 😑 history of Rajput or Jat@Ratnahastin @MaplesyrupSushi 2409:40D6:E2:BB84:5DBB:CAA4:6058:3A07 (talk) 13:41, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
@Ratnahastin Beware, the IP you replied to is likely also a sockpuppet of Truthfindervert. MaplesyrupSushi (talk) 19:43, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

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I admire how immaculate your talk page looks. Could you share how I might replicate your approach? LeónGonsalvesofGoa (talk) 05:51, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

If you want to set up an auto archiver see WP:AUTOARCHIVE or if you wish to have a "trout me" button you can insert {{Emergency-user-slap}} to your talk page. - Ratnahastin (talk) 06:12, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

December 2024

From some days some random users with no prior contributions in this category have been constantly making similar edits to the Indian National Developmental Inclusive Alliance page. Those users with minimal contribution history in this topic (having only 10–20 edits overall) are consistently making similar edits to the page. They are repeatedly decreasing the Indian National Congress's tally from 101 to 99, despite no valid justification or credible sources. This appears to be sockpuppetry. [15], [16], [17].

  • Some users are removing content from the page, while others are consistently decreasing the seat count in the same manner.
  • Sockmaster Vikepro has some similarities with ShaanSengpta [18], [19].

ZDX (User) | (Contact) 08:18, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

@ZDX just FYI, @Ratnahastin had already filed an SPI here for the same thing. He too highlighted the same similarities about identical User Pages. It was checked by a CU and the result was Unlikely. I have been sleeper checked too by CUs. And before getting unblocked too I was checked for block evasion and once again nothing was found. I assured you and the community at my talk page in Revision as of 03:39, 14 February 2024 that I am not making a new account and that this is my only account. If you still want to continue I would suggest you to file an SPI again. Maybe that would assure you. Thank you. ShaanSenguptaTalk 10:13, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
I did not say that you are making new accounts, they copied all your userpage. There was someone who impersonate you before. If they are copying then what is the reason for it, that was my concern. They all are attacking in edit summaries, mentioning something "You support particular party", and from sockmaster's userpage you can see what I want to say. ZDX (User) | (Contact) 15:26, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
Ok @ZDX. Misunderstanding on my part. Btw Srimonbanik2007 tried to impersonate me with Shaan Sengupta 2.0. They copied even my signature to make it look like me. Also as far as I can remember, maybe Vikepro or someone during that period of time only once asked me whether they can use some template created by me. They also said that they liked my Userpage and asked me for permission to copy it. Maybe this could help. Thank you. ShaanSenguptaTalk 15:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Power*

Thanks for spotting that. It wasn't a sockmaster I was familiar with, but it's not a surprise. That said, I think the image they're complaining about is a copyright violation. Acroterion (talk) 16:38, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

It's possible that it's a copyvio, although nothing came up (which could be dated to before it was uploaded on commons) in a reverse image search I performed. - Ratnahastin (talk) 16:44, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
I got the same results, but it's pretty clear that it was scraped from the web at some point, and that the uploader was doing that a lot, judging by the deletion notices on their userpage at Commons. Acroterion (talk) 19:41, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

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Hi Ratnahastin Is there a way to contact you outside wikipedia. I mean email address or other source. I need to talk about something. Adamantine123 (talk) 11:13, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

@Adamantine123: - You can email me . - Ratnahastin (talk) 11:48, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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Hey Ratnahastin, I was reading about trains (as one does) and came across the article FS Class ETR 600. I was surprised to see that it is not reviewed (patrolled by NPP), so I checked the history and logs. It looks like it was reviewed by TAOT in May, and then you marked it as unreviewed the next day (logs). I'm not sure why – is there something wrong with the article? It looks fine to me, but I just want to check with you before reviewing it again. Best, Toadspike [Talk] 18:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

@Toadspike: - You can review it. - Ratnahastin (talk) 02:21, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

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Chandraseniya Kayastha Prabhu

Hi @Ratnahastin, Please tell what is wrong with my edits on Chandraseniya Kayastha Prabhu? I just want to add notable people list. Please correct me if am wrong. Thank You ! PerspicazHistorian (talk) 15:46, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

The sources you cited were very poor (most of them were from WP:UGC sites). - Ratnahastin (talk) 16:05, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
okay i agree but you should have just added a citation needed tag beside it. Moreover many of it had notable citations. You could have challenged it one talk page. That was not fair. PerspicazHistorian (talk) 16:13, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
@PerspicazHistorian:, please see WP:BRD. If you make any changes to a stable page, it is your burden to prove that the content added is reliable. And if you remove any content from a stable page, it is your responsibility to get consensus for the removal after someone reverts it. You should have discussed the notables you were adding on the talk page after you were reverted. I do not know if you were right or wrong about the content(notables) you added but the proper procedure is to start a discussion on the talk page when someone restores it to a stable version (in this case the admin's version). However, the sources you added for the notables were very unreliable. Also, generally we don't add pictures of notables to caste pages as it is WP:PUFFERY.LukeEmily (talk) 20:35, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

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Concern Regarding Edits to the "Kamaria Ahir" Article

Hello Ratnathasthin,

I am writing to express my concerns about your recent edits to the Kamaria Ahir article. I believe your actions have unjustifiably removed well-sourced, neutral content, and I request clarification and a resolution to this issue.

1. Sitush/CasteSources Is Not a Policy

You cited User:Sitush/CasteSources as the basis for removing content. However, this page is not an official Wikipedia policy or guideline. It reflects the views of one editor and cannot override Wikipedia's core content policies, including:

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2. Reliability of Sources from the British Raj Era

The sources you removed, including those from the British Raj era, are neutral and verifiable. They document historical facts relevant to the Kamaria Ahir community and are widely used in academic contexts. These sources do not exhibit bias against or favor toward the community, nor are they original research (WP:NOR).

Removing these sources on the blanket assumption of bias is contrary to WP:RS and does not follow Wikipedia's requirement for a balanced representation of topics.

3. Unilateral Removal of Content Violates Wikipedia Policy

Your edits removed significant portions of the article without providing adequate policy-backed justification. This undermines the article’s neutrality (WP:NPOV) and comprehensiveness. Unilateral content removal without discussion can be considered disruptive editing (WP:DISRUPT).

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I request the following:

1. Restore the removed content or provide detailed, policy-backed explanations for its removal, otherwise I'll be restoring those edits myself.

2. Engage in discussion to resolve disagreements before making further edits.


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Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your response.

Sincerely,

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@Nlkyair012: - Stop using AI to generate such hallucinated responses. Sitush's "essays" are a summary of various consensuses on the caste topic, all of which have been linked there. Raj era sources are unacceptable for caste articles, if you restore content backed by those poor sources, you might risk sanctions under WP:GSCASTE and WP:ARBIPA both of which you are aware of. - Ratnahastin (talk) 08:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
@Ratnahastin: thank you for your response, but I’d like to clarify and address several points you raised.
1. On the Use of AI: The claim that my message is “AI-generated” is both baseless and unhelpful. I am fully capable of formulating my own arguments and conducting the necessary research. Labeling my response in this way undermines the discussion and detracts from the issue at hand. Let's keep the focus on the content, not on baseless assumptions.
2. On Sitush’s Essays: Sitush’s essays, while insightful, are not official Wikipedia policies. They summarize opinions and past discussions but should not be treated as definitive guidance. Wikipedia operates on the principles of WP:V and WP:NPOV, which means we should assess sources independently and not dismiss entire categories of them based on an individual’s interpretation. Simply citing these essays does not resolve the issues regarding the reliability of specific sources in question. The consensus on Wikipedia evolves, and we should be open to examining sources on their own merits.
3. On Raj-Era Sources: Dismissing all Raj-era sources as "unacceptable" is an oversimplification and does not align with Wikipedia’s guidelines on WP:RS. Such sources should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis, and many are still cited in reputable academic works today. These sources provide valuable historical context and are not inherently biased. A blanket rejection of all Raj-era sources is not a fair or accurate approach and does not reflect how sources should be assessed on Wikipedia.
4. On WP:GSCASTE and WP:ARBIPA: I fully understand the importance of these sanctions and their purpose in preventing disruptive editing, but I do not believe they are warranted here. My edits were made in good faith, following the principles of WP:V and WP:NOR. The use of these sanctions should not be used as a threat to prevent the inclusion of valid, well-sourced material. I aim for neutrality and verifiability in my contributions, as should we all.
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I am confident we can come to a fair and balanced resolution, and I look forward to hearing your thoughts on this matter.
Best regards,
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Thinking about something

Hi Ratnahastin You remember, I texted you earlier about connectivity outside Wikipedia. Actually, I need a help and I know that for past three four years, things has not been good between us over content dispute. But, believe me, I want to stay aside from all this conflict and befriend you. But, I am thinking whether it will be safe for me or not to reveal my identity to you. Adamantine123 (talk) 03:18, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

If you do not feel comfortable in revealing your identity then you should not do it. - Ratnahastin (talk) 04:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Are you capable of finding exact location of someone using their mobile number. I want this to be done for a lost member of my family. Adamantine123 (talk) 12:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
No, I cannot do that. - Ratnahastin (talk) 15:49, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 26

Regarding the sources in the "Baislas" edit

The sources i used in citation no 5 and 6 have already been used in 4, furthermore its a government use which states a neutral fact. Nothingbutthetruth2006 (talk) 17:45, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

They are unreliable Raj era sources. - Ratnahastin (talk) 17:48, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Real one?

This one looks like the real one, considering their (particular) caste promotion. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:32, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Might be worth asking an admin to compare the deleted version of Ror dynasty to the current one. If they match up, then it's a DUCK. - Ratnahastin (talk) 11:41, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for the detailed behavioral report at that SPI - something was very, very off about the behavior of that account. Have a wonderful new year! Jellyfish (mobile) (talk) 17:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Tables have turned?

I feel flattered, are you "Following" me now? lol Qalb alasid (talk) 09:05, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Edit war?

Also, interesting that you only gave me a warning and not the other user involved in the Gita discussion. There are reverts on both sides, why didn't you give a warning to the other user? That doesn't seem quite fair. Interesting... Qalb alasid (talk) 09:19, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure Wilipedia is the right place for you, Qa. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 10:22, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Correct, I don't think Wilipedia is, but I like to contribute to Wikipedia :) Qalb alasid (talk) 10:30, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Regarding Patiala State

I had recently seen that there are some IPs changing some info in the lead of Patiala state. I want to ask you that are they Jats or not because the article you linked as Sidhu Sikhs clearly mentions that Sidhu is a Punjabi Jat clan. TheSlumPanda (talk) 07:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi...

Is this Cameron redder (talk · contribs) another sock? Knitsey (talk) 15:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

@Knitsey: No doubt , restored the same revision. [20][21] you can add it to the list of suspected socks at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Vinayvinyill#04 January 2025 - Ratnahastin (talk) 15:36, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Will do. Knitsey (talk) 15:37, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes i am sock, block me you fools and rascals
You Randi Ratnahastin, this is too much 😡 Cameron redder (talk) 15:51, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Thanks, Happy New year to you too! - Ratnahastin (talk) 02:38, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Singh

hello I just wanted to chat with you about the Singh page. That edit was from a topic ban user. So I replaced with better reliable sources and I also mentioned the page numbers. In which Khalsa is explained in detail and why it is named SinghJaspreetsingh6 (talk) 07:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

This is incorrect, you replaced reliably sourced information (by multiple scholarly sources) in lead with a POV text citing Kushwant Singh, you could have included the neutrally worded version of that into the body first instead of directly editing the lead. - Ratnahastin (talk) 07:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
yes that's my mistake i should double check sorry for inconvenience Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 07:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I have put both the points of view so whichever one you want to believe you can believe Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 07:44, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
And if you have any other suggestion in mind then you can tell me. Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 07:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Regarding princely states

Recently you reverted my edit in which i concised the lead section as you said yesterday and you previously reverted my edit on Bharatpur State stating that this is a princely state. But whats the difference between Bharatpur and Mewar Kingdom because initially both were Independent and then both became princely and then both merged into rajasthan ? Don’t you think we should make the titles of both articles uniform like States or Kingdom because both are similar. @Fylindfotberserk friendly mention. Thanks TheSlumPanda (talk) 11:47, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Read my edit summary, what you are trying add to the lead of Mewar kingdom has already been mentioned in the lead "Eventually, falling under Maratha Confederacy's influence and accepting British suzerainty in 1818, Mewar remained a princely state until it joined the Union of India in 1947.", Your edit was redundant. - Ratnahastin (talk) 11:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
No, i am talking about should we also change the name of Bharatpur state to Kingdom of Bharatpur ? Because i believe there should be no partiality and there should be uniformity as it was also a Independent kingdom initially like Mewar ?TheSlumPanda (talk) 12:06, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
The page titles on wikipedia are based on WP:COMMONNAME, is Kingdom of Bharatpur the common name of the polity? If you believe so you can propose a WP:RM at the talkpage listing sources that call it as one. Thanks. - Ratnahastin (talk) 12:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
I believe we should be discussion it here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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Jauhar

Explain how it was unsourced. And yeah, I didn't removed the entire para either way. 2409:40E4:1115:94A5:E0C4:A65E:1AF6:9896 (talk) 12:33, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

I have fixed it. Thanks. - Ratnahastin (talk) 12:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

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Why is that so ?

why you are trying to prove whole Yadav community , a group of non-elite by removing historically ?

As we know technically before independence, almost all backword communities or many others are non-elite , so what ? they are now still non-elite? ofcourse not.

So better to revised whole sentence for looking more balanced and academic. Although the source not talk about whole Yadav community.

source specifically talking about a perticular caste 'Ahir' a non-elite, not whole Yadav as we know today.

Regards. Callmehelper (talk) 09:06, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

See WP:OR, Susan Bayly has defined them in the glossary section of her WP:TERTIARY as non-elite ("Caste title of North Indian non-elite 'peasant'-pastoralists, known also as Yadav."), she also states that Ahir is merely the caste title of the cluster that is also known as "Yadav", we can only report what she has stated in her work. - Ratnahastin (talk) 09:13, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
but she doesn't mean to be calling whole Yadav a non-elite , isn't she ?
that's for sure a historically perspective not current situation.
why not, putting a word historically would be a better way to make it balanced ? otherwise source should be removed and many others sources should be placed instead of her source.
as she don't give any reference that from where she is reaching to that claim that all yadav or ahir are non-elite ?
ofcourse that's a glossary section and taking that refrences and fit to in Intro section making it highly negative and bised intention. that's can be in any other section of that page, but in lead making it bad impression.
That's all. if you disagree then I have to remove that cite anyway or better would be to reaching the third opinion, for not further edit war. what do you say ?
Regards. Callmehelper (talk) 10:00, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
that's for sure a historically perspective not current situation. - WP:OR
why not, putting a word historically would be a better way to make it balanced ? - WP:OR, what sources say Yadavs are "historically non-elite"?
ofcourse that's a glossary section and taking that refrences and fit to in Intro section making it highly negative and bised intention - see WP:UNCENSORED and glossary sections are perfect for taking definitions of castes , in fact they are WP:TERTIARY and summarise the scholarly views on the aspects of a caste and should always be preferred over random descriptions in middle of text.
I have to remove that cite anyway - That description has been there for a decade, it will require consensus for removal. - Ratnahastin (talk) 10:04, 12 January 2025 (UTC)
okay . leave all this for a second.
you are highly true, we shouldn't make any assumptions n all.
we must stick to WP:NOR and we must include the word 'north indian non-elite' as source say otherwise it feels like non-elite throughout India but source don't say that.
Regards Callmehelper (talk) 10:57, 12 January 2025 (UTC)

Gurung people history, culture ethinicity.

how is Gurung people considered Tibtian ethinicity when these people are listed as a indiginious Mountain ethinic group of Nepal in Nepal government. there is no such listing in Tibet or in China government official document about Gurung people. on what basis wiki admin has been changing gurung people status as tibetian people can you give some concret expination to it. 2400:1A00:B050:9DB1:81C3:21B3:6CE6:98F9 (talk) 15:54, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

List of kayastha empires

what are u even saying what is not properly sourced,  ???? Do u even know what is a reliable source, r u an archaeologist or what??? Have u even read ain i akbari or other contemporary sources u r just declining the article without any proper logic. What is the meaning of not using external sources?? Lolz it's more reliable than your whole wikipedia understood!!! The historians I have mentioned and their works are more reliable than any random admin on Wikipedia so sorry if my words hurt u but i wanted to make this very clear. Next time you should expand your horizons of knowledge above wikipedia. 103.97.212.121 (talk) 11:01, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

SHS

Change Shiv Sena into Shiv Sena (1966-2022) and Change Shiv Sena (2022-present) into Shiv Sena because it is easy for refer and many current pages linked to SHiv Sena (1966) page only. RajasPudu (talk) 13:02, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

No, the consensus is not in favour of these changes[22][23]. - Ratnahastin (talk) 13:07, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Are please you helping me by changing the links to current shinde Sena page.🙏 RajasPudu (talk) 13:15, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Mass sexual assault

copyvio sorted. Thanks for the heads up. Nthep (talk) 15:31, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Please do some research before removing anything.

I see that you removed a title “peasant leader” from Charan Singh Ji article and write reason as which source tell him a peasant leader ? Firstly he is one of the greatest peasant leader in the History of India. In case of any doubt see these references 1, 2, 3, TheSlumPanda (talk) 17:38, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

You added it, it is your responsibility to substantiate it, not mine. "Please do some research before removing anything" - That's not how Wikipedia works, anyway none of these sources call him a "peasant leader". - Ratnahastin (talk) 17:43, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
According to you then who is a peasant leader if he is not a peasant leader ? TheSlumPanda (talk) 17:46, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
Not according to me or you but reliable sources, none of your sources describe him as a "peasant leader", even the one you cited (an opinion piece BTW) only reiterates “champion of India’s peasants” label that is already mentioned in the lead. - Ratnahastin (talk) 17:49, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
Ok if you want as it is line then see this one “His rise as a peasant leader in late colonial India was not delinked from the larger national anti-colonial politics” TheSlumPanda (talk) 17:52, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
I doubt this opinion piece is enough for lede edit like that. - Ratnahastin (talk) 17:53, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
No it is not a piece only, when you search on web then in every article on charan singh ji there is discuss about his leadership in farmer and agricultural community and as far as i know such leader is known as peasant leader TheSlumPanda (talk) 17:59, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

January 2025

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Query and permission regarding editing Hindu Ghosi

Dear Ratnahastin,

I hope you are doing good I had a query regarding Hindu Ghosi page, I understand that many editors are having eyes on me and @Bbb3 even put a query on me on Sockpuppetry account investigation section here, [1] and that's not an issue I'm not a sockpuppet account but I just wanted to ask you a question can I kindly revert your latest edit on Hindu Ghosi[2] to an old edit by a sockpuppet account of Rao Devilal Pratap that was Mouthskipper, and here is the edit by the sockpuppet account[3] because I find this edit fine and the request I wanted to do was kindly do not put an SPI on me for this because I'll be only doing what would be right there.

Thanking you

Nlkyair012 06:33, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

You're free to do that even without asking me. - Ratnahastin (talk) 06:35, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Thankyou so much respected Ratnahastin 🙏🏻 Nlkyair012 06:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)