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Welcome to the drive!

Welcome, welcome, welcome CFA! I'm glad that you are joining the November 2024 drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.

Fix a random page lacking sources

Cielquiparle (talk) 11:59, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #178 is out: Rewriting the backend

There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue, we discuss how the team is working hard to rewrite Wikifunctions' backend, to overcome some of the limits we encountered with the current language.

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Also, we remind you that if you have questions or ideas to discuss, the next Volunteers' Corner will be held on November 4, at 18:30 UTC (link to the meeting).

Enjoy the reading! -- User:Sannita (WMF) (talk) 13:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from BobOfCoolness (19:54, 2 November 2024)

Hello! I am wondering many things about how to edit. 1. How do I insert links to other articles? 2. How do I create a new article? 3. How can I translate an article into a language that I do not speak?

Thank you for your help! --BobOfCoolness (talk) 19:54, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi BobOfCoolness, and welcome to Wikipedia! I'll answer your questions below:
  1. I see you're using the Visual Editor. To add links to the other articles, follow the steps at Help:VisualEditor#Editing links — there should be a "link" icon in the toolbar.
  2. To create a new article, you can use the Article Wizard. I see you've already submitted Draft:RobertIDK for review, but it was declined for lacking citations. I suggest reading Referencing for Beginners to learn how to cite sources Wikipedia-style.
  3. You probably shouldn't. Machine translations are rarely a good idea, particularly if you have no way to review the output.
Let me know if you have any other questions. Happy editing, C F A 💬 23:12, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Pont Sainte-Anne

The source of the copyvio is no longer online, nor could I find it at the Internet Archive or through the source site's archive of past issues. You wouldn't happen to have a local copy that you downloaded would you? -- Whpq (talk) 14:55, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Someone else already deleted the article, though you can see a cached version of the source on Turnitin here (if you log in through CopyPatrol) if you're curious. C F A 💬 21:10, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
All good thanks Whpq (talk) 23:22, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2024).

Administrator changes

readded
removed

CheckUser changes

removed Maxim

Oversighter changes

removed Maxim

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • Mass deletions done with the Nuke tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. T366068

Arbitration

Miscellaneous

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Question from Autspectorder (12:52, 3 November 2024)

Is there a tool like Citation Hunt, but for original research? --Autspectorder (talk) 12:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

I don't think so, but you can use this link to find a random article that is tagged as containing original research. C F A 💬 15:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from BobOfCoolness (15:27, 3 November 2024)

As you told me in a previous message, you saw my article got rejected first. Now, it got rejected again for a lack of reliable sources. I spent a long time searching for these sources and I worked hard on writing this. Is there a way you can help or tell me what I need to add and what counts as a ‘reliable source’? --BobOfCoolness (talk) 15:27, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi BobOfCoolness, Draft:RobertIDK still has no references. Have you read Referencing for Beginners? It's important to make sure that all information can be verified using reliable, published sources. You should also take a look at Wikipedia's notability guidelines for people — the criteria which determines whether the subject qualifies for an encyclopedia article. C F A 💬 17:42, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 45, 2024)

Hello, CFA. The article for improvement of the week is:

Slow living

Please be bold and help improve it!

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Question from BKetching1 (06:50, 4 November 2024)

Hey I have been trying to figure out the sandbox feature all night. I think I published my sandbox but can't get to a sandbox tab/don't even know how the page functions.

Would you be able to instruct me how to access/edit my sandbox page? --BKetching1 (talk) 06:50, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi BKetching1, and welcome to Wikipedia! Your sandbox is accessible at this link: User:BKetching1/sandbox. You can edit it by clicking the "Edit" button in the top right. You might also be interested in trying out The Wikipedia Adventure – a game that shows you around Wikipedia. Let me know if you have any other questions. Happy editing, C F A 💬 14:14, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2024-45

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

  • Stewards can now make global account blocks cause global autoblocks. This will assist stewards in preventing abuse from users who have been globally blocked. This includes preventing globally blocked temporary accounts from exiting their session or switching browsers to make subsequent edits for 24 hours. Previously, temporary accounts could exit their current session or switch browsers to continue editing. This is an anti-abuse tool improvement for the Temporary Accounts project. You can read more about the progress on key features for temporary accounts. [1]
  • Wikis that have the CampaignEvents extension enabled can now use the Collaboration List feature. This list provides a new, easy way for contributors to learn about WikiProjects on their wikis. Thanks to the Campaign team for this work that is part of the 2024/25 annual plan. If you are interested in bringing the CampaignEvents extension to your wiki, you can follow these steps or you can reach out to User:Udehb-WMF for help.
  • The text color for red links will be slightly changed later this week to improve their contrast in light mode. [2]
  • View all 32 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, on multilingual wikis, users can now hide translations from the WhatLinksHere special page.

Updates for technical contributors

  • XML data dumps have been temporarily paused whilst a bug is investigated. [3]

In depth

  • Temporary Accounts have been deployed to six wikis; thanks to the Trust and Safety Product team for this work, you can read about the deployment plans. Beginning next week, Temporary Accounts will also be enabled on seven other projects. If you are active on these wikis and need help migrating your tools, please reach out to User:Udehb-WMF for assistance.
  • The latest quarterly Language and Internationalization newsletter is available. It includes: New languages supported in translatewiki or in MediaWiki; New keyboard input methods for some languages; details about recent and upcoming meetings, and more.

Meetings and events

  • MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference Fall 2024 is happening in Vienna, Austria and online from 4 to 6 November 2024. The conference will feature discussions around the usage of MediaWiki software by and within companies in different industries and will inspire and onboard new users.

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Question from Skyscraper Aficionado (21:08, 4 November 2024)

Hello, I've created multiple Wikipedia articles and was wondering how to go about creating proper talk pages for them. Could you offer any assistance? --Skyscraper Aficionado (talk) 21:08, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Skyscraper Aficionado, most reviewers add relevant WikiProject banners (e.g. {{WikiProject Architecture}}) to the top of the talk page. For example, I added {{WikiProject North Carolina}} and {{WikiProject Skyscrapers}} to Talk:FNB Tower Charlotte. I also rated it as start-class. You might be interested in installing the Rater tool which automates a lot of this. Let me know if you have any other questions. Happy editing! C F A 💬 00:43, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Feedback request: Media, the arts, and architecture request for comment

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Murivu

I didn't mean to redirect to draft but there is a duplicate article that was also moved to draft. Articles older than 90 days cant be moved to draft but this article wasn't. See Draft:Murivu (Film) and Draft:Murivu. See Wikipedia:DRAFTIFY.

DareshMohan (talk) 16:13, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

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Mandatory Notice

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. 49.181.58.245 (talk) 02:06, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. C F A 💬 02:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Comment about Teahouse

Hey, the contentious topic WP:A/I/PIA is about the conflict, not Israel in general. Sure their question is not to do with editing, but please don't stonewall them for the wrong reason. Personally I don't like the WP:ARBECR summary either, takes too many extra clicks for the person to find out what the contentious topic actually is. – 2804:F1...4A:3386 (talk) 01:39, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

No, ARBECR applies to their comments. "Broadly construed" includes Zionism and the like. I left a message on their talk page explaining it to them. C F A 💬 01:43, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
... it applies to Zionism? News to me, the 'Definition of the "area of conflict"' says nothing about it. I'd appreciate it if you could show me evidence of it applying, though only if you have it on hand as I do not really need it seeing as I will not be contributing to this topic area (I just have never heard of this part). – 2804:F1...4A:3386 (talk) 01:47, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
I'm not really sure what you're looking for, but historically it has been interpreted that broadly. Zionism is EC-protected, for example. Their comments were just forum-y complaining regardless, but I'm not planning on edit-warring over it. C F A 💬 01:53, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Well, what I would be looking for is something that includes Zionism as part of the contentious topic (as in talking about Zionism is part of the topic, which is what I thought you were saying).
Is that not what you were saying? – 2804:F1...4A:3386 (talk) 02:03, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Yes, that's what I was saying. C F A 💬 02:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Huh, alright, other people have agreed. If Arbcom wasn't the most bureaucratic part of Wikipedia I'd have suggested adding that to the notice, but it is so *shrug*, guess it will just be potentially surprising like that to people who do not know much about the conflict.
Thanks for explaining. – 2804:F1...4A:3386 (talk) 02:46, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Paul S. Flores, feedback needed

Hello,

Thank you so much for taking the time to review my article. I am hoping that you can offer further insight so that I might get it published down the road. The note said that the notable works and grants were completed unsourced but I did place reference sources for all of them. Is there a different way to source them? Please do let me know. In addition to this, it said that he may not be notable enough to warrant a wikipedia page, how might you recommend strengthening his notability? Thank you kindly for your help here! {{Ping|CFA}} Bliss.Rios (talk) 17:09, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Bliss.Rios, I reviewed your draft when it looked like this. I see you've since added more references and have submitted it for review — another reviewer will hopefully check it out soon. In the meantime, can you tell me which part of Wikipedia:Notability (people) is satisfied? Happy editing, C F A 💬 17:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Hi! Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. Paul S. Flores qualifies as notable under the given premises:
The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series
In addition to this category he has won multiple awards and grants which were listed as one of the notability factors. Thank you kindly! Bliss.Rios (talk) 19:51, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #179 is out: The dream of a Universal Language

There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue, we talk about several presentation in and around the topics of languages and our work, we discuss the current refactoring of our functions catalogue and we take a look at the latest software developments.

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Request on 11:01:03, 9 November 2024 for assistance on AfC submission by Sebawild


Thanks for your review on https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:Powersort. We were trying to give references that are in-depth and reliable via published research articles, and secondary and independent coverage via the source code and documentation references and blog posts. Can you point out where you see that references are insufficient to cover the four points / to establish notability?

With respect to the overall notability, there are dedicated articles about many dozens of sorting algorithms (listed on its own overview page https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Sorting_algorithm). In comparison to Powersort, many of these are rather esoteric and never had any impact on applications; I still find them worth not being forgotten, but feel that the algorithm actively used in the most widely deployed software frameworks is at least as notable.


Sebastian Wild (talk) 11:01, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Sebawild, that's exactly the problem: Source code, documentation, and blog posts are all unhelpful for establishing notability. I'll review each of your references below:
Wikipedia is looking for significant coverage in independent, reliable sources — see WP:42. In short, none of your references count towards notability at the moment. C F A 💬 15:52, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification and details; I now better understand what you seek in independence. (I think that these days, source code of a big open source project might deserve a stronger role. My feeling is that these might receive more scrutiny than, say, most newspapers ;) But that is a different discussion.)
There are some research articles appearing soon (without involvement from myself) that discuss the topic further, I will add these when they are available. (The two papers you observed do not mention the algorithm since they predate it :) not by publication date, but by the original arxiv timestamps).
Can I ask about your thoughts on referencing the ACM Tech News coverage: https://technews.acm.org/archives.cfm?fo=2022-12-dec/dec-14-2022.html#1230749? It's just a summary paragraph there (the i-programmer blog has more info), but it is editorially scrutinized. Sebastian Wild (talk) 16:11, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, the summary paragraph is probably all right. I did come across the full article while looking for sources myself, but since it is published by the University of Liverpool it wouldn't be considered independent. You can definitely use the full article to verify information; it just won't count towards notability since it is not independent. C F A 💬 16:21, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

You have been granted rollback rights

Hi CFA. After reviewing your request, I have enabled rollback on your account. Please keep the following things in mind while using rollback:

  • Being granted rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle or Ultraviolet. It just adds a [Rollback] button next to a page's latest live revision - that's all. It does not grant you any additional "status" on Wikipedia, nor does it change how Wikipedia policies apply to you.
  • Rollback should be used to revert clear and unambiguous cases of vandalism only. Never use rollback to revert good faith edits.
  • Rollback should never be used to edit war, and it should never be used in a content-related dispute to restore the page to your preferred revision. If rollback is abused or used for this purpose or any other inappropriate purpose, the rights will be revoked.
  • Use common sense. If you're not sure about something, ask!

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into trouble or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 03:36, 10 November 2024 (UTC)

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This week's article for improvement (week 46, 2024)

Hello, CFA. The article for improvement of the week is:

Stationery

Please be bold and help improve it!

Previous selections: Slow living • Space Age

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Request for Review: Updated Draft of Say Cheese (2009 film) with Notability Sources

Hello @CFA Reviewer mentor,

I have revised the draft for Say Cheese (2009 film), ensuring that it now includes reliable, published secondary sources that are independent of the subject. I believe these sources demonstrate significant coverage of the film, in line with Wikipedia's notability guidelines.

Could you please review the updated submission?

Thank you for your time. Best Regards Bhashaji (talk) 13:04, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Relevance of LGBT feedback on Longlegs Page

Hello CFA,

I'm writing this in response to your message to me about the edit I made on the Longlegs page. I made the edit to remove identity-specific feedback because I believe it doesn’t significantly contribute to the general understanding of the film’s public reception; the aim of the reception section is to summarize overall audience and critical responses in a balanced way, rather than highlighting feedback from specific identity groups. It's a steep slope including such feedback and could create a precedent for other articles to feature reviews from various identity groups, potentially shifting the focus away from the film’s general reception.

Your thoughts? Morose Soliloquy (talk) 07:01, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Morose Soliloquy, you're free to reinstate your edit with an edit summary. Please make sure to explain major removals in the future. Happy editing, C F A 💬 16:11, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-46

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

Updates for technical contributors

  • Advanced item In 1.44.0-wmf-2, the logic of Wikibase function getAllStatements changed to behave like getBestStatements. Invoking the function now returns a copy of values which are immutable. [6]
  • Wikimedia REST API users, such as bot operators and tool maintainers, may be affected by ongoing upgrades. The API will be rerouting some page content endpoints from RESTbase to the newer MediaWiki REST API endpoints. The impacted endpoints include getting page/revision metadata and rendered HTML content. These changes will be available on testwiki later this week, with other projects to follow. This change should not affect existing functionality, but active users of the impacted endpoints should verify behavior on testwiki, and raise any concerns on the related Phabricator ticket.

In depth

  • Admins and users of the Wikimedia projects where Automoderator is enabled can now monitor and evaluate important metrics related to Automoderator's actions. This Superset dashboard calculates and aggregates metrics about Automoderator's behaviour on the projects in which it is deployed. Thanks to the Moderator Tools team for this Dashboard; you can visit the documentation page for more information about this work. [7]

Meetings and events

  • 21 November 2024 (8:00 UTC & 16:00 UTC) - Community call with Wikimedia Commons volunteers and stakeholders to help prioritize support efforts for 2025-2026 Fiscal Year. The theme of this call is how content should be organised on Wikimedia Commons.

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Books & Bytes – Issue 65

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Editions to Meet the press article

hello, In my opinion, it was enought good, it would have been easy check from youtube. I understand that rules and my opinion may be in conflict and rules always win.

I did now add plenty of citations (maybe too many, but i did try point pattern), and did try again. 2001:14BB:67F:DF14:4454:D21B:C08A:ABA9 (talk) 23:42, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

And by the way, in upper there reed that

"Rollback should be used to revert clear and unambiguous cases of vandalism only. Never use rollback to revert good faith edits"

It was not wandalism, it was clearly good faith edit. I could cry about this to someone, but i don't mind, i hope you remember next time what is right way to do. Some one else could say Keep your damn jack! And it would be lose. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:14BB:67F:DF14:4454:D21B:C08A:ABA9 (talk) 23:51, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for adding a citation, though it appears someone else reverted your most recent edit. I never claimed your edit was vandalism or not in good faith. C F A 💬 23:53, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
I did not claim so, i just wanted point to you rules about rollbacking, because i notice that rule and to me your actions was in conflict with that rule.
How i can report user Neiltonks, because that user clearly broke that rollback rule and did not want fix citations and did not feel need try contact.

And i did try one time more. It is very fustrating see roll back after goodfaith editions.2001:14BB:67F:DF14:4454:D21B:C08A:ABA9 (talk) 00:16, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Neither of us used rollback inappropriately. My edit summary was "Reverted edits by 2001:14BB:67F:DF14:4454:D21B:C08A:ABA9 (talk): not providing a reliable source " and Neiltonks didn't even use rollback to revert your edit. Rolling back your edit without an edit summary would have been inappropriate. C F A 💬 00:23, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Then i have misunderstand terms and i am sorry for acusing based wrong understanding. But still my point stand, in my opinion you and that Neiltonks should have fix, not removing edits. But it is just my opinion.
I asume that my edit are now acceptable.
and thank you for constructive dialog. 2001:14BB:67F:DF14:4454:D21B:C08A:ABA9 (talk) 00:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from JaxxVault on Web page (20:17, 13 November 2024)

Hello how do I create my website --JaxxVault (talk) 20:17, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #180 is out: New type: Rational numbers

There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue, we present you our newest Type, rational numbers, as well as the new renderer and parser for natural numbers, and we take a look at the latest software developments.

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Notice of noticeboard discussion

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Seeking opinions: protection of the help desk and teahouse. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 14:44, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. C F A 💬 14:51, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from GaylaKH (06:15, 14 November 2024)

I have prepared my submission in my GaylaKH sandbox and hit PUBLISHED. How do I submit it for through the Articles for Creation (AfC) process, which allows editors to review and approve it for publication. I couldn't find a banner that says "Submit your draft for review" to click on and submit it. --GaylaKH (talk) 06:15, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi GaylaKH, someone has added the blue submission button to your sandbox. You can now click it to submit your draft for review. You might also be interested in reading Wikipedia's policy on autobiographies. Happy editing, C F A 💬 14:50, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Many thanks. I can have someone else submit the bio if you prefer. Appreciate all that you do. My husband and I donate to Wiki and hope you continue to thrive. You have a great mission! GaylaKH (talk) 17:12, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

The 2024 Jammu and Kashmir legislative assembly Resolution to restore autonomy: Revision history

I request you to review my draft Draft:The 2024 Jammu and Kashmir legislative assembly Resolution to restore autonomy as you have already told me that I have done some mistakes that's why I did not put the article directly please let me know if this is right or I need to do some more revisions. :) Sarim Wani (talk) 04:55, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

@CFA: Sarim Wani (talk) 05:47, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Replied on your talk page. C F A 💬 13:54, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
got it :) Sarim Wani (talk) 14:50, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Katherine "Katie" Breann Cooper redirect

A redirect that I created was put up for deletion, then voted to be kept and subsequently closed by you. The same person who put it up for deletion immediately put it up for speedy deletion. What can be done about this? Shoot for the Stars (talk) 17:02, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm not sure what they're doing. Blethering Scot, there was clear consensus to keep at the RfD. C F A 💬 17:06, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Auto-archival of sub-talk page

Hey, just FYI, for /Non-autoconfirmed posts, I commented out {{User:MiszaBot/config}}. It was broken and won't auto-archive because | archive = User talk:CFA/Archives/%(year)d/%(monthname)s isn't a direct subpage of the page.

Since it's likely low-volume, you might be able to just get by manually archiving. But other options are letting it archive to its own separate subpage structure, using {{User:ClueBot III/ArchiveThis}} instead, or requesting a key (may be unlikely/impossible: see current keys). Retro (talk | contribs) 07:01, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Never mind about ClueBot III; if no key is provided, it also requires the archive target to be a subpage. Retro (talk | contribs) 09:38, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
@Retro: Thanks! C F A 13:38, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Another recent incident involving a vandal

I had to move all of your pre-vandalism user and user talk page stuff to their pre-vandalism titles, CFA. I'll request protection shortly. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 04:00, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

NlGGERKlKE

All taken care of. C F A 03:04, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Hello, CFA,

There was a vandal targeting this page and I was surprised to find you created it. Do you really think this page is appropriate for main space? I only see your edits to it, not the vandal's. I'm pinging User:Bishonen as they were involved here. Liz Read! Talk! 04:09, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Liz, some possible LTA did this. I don't think we can fault CFA for this, but just merge this and this user talk page with the other history and delete the vandal's attempts to move the page and disruptive edit summaries. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 04:12, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Oh lord, the problem is I'm even out of bed - it's the middle of the night here. I deleted all the revisions of NIGGERKIKE, then realized most of the 235 revisions were appropriate - it had been vandalized. So I recreated 225 revisions, assuming it had also been moved. But it turned out to be still called the bad name, and I can't find the original name in the logs. Surely there must be an original name? Thanks for catching this, Liz and Codename Noreste — I was just about to appeal for help on AN. Bishonen (still apparently an idiot after all these years) tålk 04:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
You could possibly move it to User:CFA. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 04:25, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Done. Bishonen | tålk 04:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC).
I was clearly mistaken here. I just didn't understand the page history which only showed edits by CFA, not the vandal who was blocked. I think there was some crossed wires during the page moves of these pages. Thank you for cleaning this up, Bishonen. It's appreciated. Liz Read! Talk! 04:41, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the help, everyone. I think something happened to my talk page history though. C F A 12:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Let's get another admin to merge this legitimate page and the other page's history, if I am not mistaken. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk 13:33, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
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I know the above discussion is closed. However, I just wanted to remind everyone who ever sees this talk page that checkusers can be emailed at checkuser-en-wp@wikipedia.org, and that oversighters can be emailed from User:Oversight. There seems to be a consensus that rev-deletion is enough, but if the vandalism continues to be like anything I've seen, I doubt you'd get in trouble for emailing oversight. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 08:57, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

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About adding ai-generated tag

Hello, I came across your message you posted on my user page. I compiled information from various reliable sources and formatted new pages for new parlimentarians in Sri Lanka using an appropriate template to ensure clarity and consistency. I did use a language model to help refine grammar and wording where necessary, but the core research and structure were my own. Given this approach, would it still be necessary to tag the page as AI-generated? TIA. Indunil Chamara (talk) 17:37, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

No, because the text you're adding is 1) not at all neutral and 2) completely unsourced. As you are writing biographies of living people, it is very important to make sure all information is verifiable and cited. The text you are adding is also blatantly promotional. Please write using your own words. C F A 23:59, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

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Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #181 is out: New special page for missing labels, new type for Gregorian years, and much more

There is a new update for Abstract Wikipedia and Wikifunctions. Please, come and read it!

In this issue, we introduce a new special page for objects with a missing label, we present two new types (Gregorian year and Wikidata statement rank), we showcase several contributions made by you volunteers, and we take a look at the latest software developments.

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Question from Royiswariii (05:30, 23 November 2024)

Hello CFA! I'm asking about a WikiProject, I was planning to create a WikiProject but it is hold "In 2024, we are changing the proposal process. We are trying to reduce the number of failed attempts to start groups.". I don't know how will I start a WikiProject, can you give me a tip or help how will I start a WikiProject even it's in hold for proposing a WikiProject? Thanks! --Royiswariii Talk! 05:30, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Royiswariii. This was done because there are a lot of very inactive WikiProjects on niche subjects that were created and only briefly active before dying off. The point of WikiProjects is to have somewhere where people working in the same subject area can collaborate. They're completely useless without participation from interested editors. I don't think you actually need to go through the official approval process — no one is going to stop you from creating a page in projectspace — but you should probably have at least 10 people interested beforehand. WT:COUNCIL is a good place to ask about stuff like this. Happy editing, C F A 15:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
So does it mean, I can create whenever i want? Royiswariii Talk! 09:04, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
I doubt anyone will stop you, but I recommend you get some people on board first. C F A 14:42, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

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My sandbox Image

Hi, Hope you are well, can I just clarify why you dont think my image is suitable? is it an ai mockup of a person and never claims to actually be this person. simply functions as a visual aid as there were no picture of my person who there was creative commons for. thank you Julianna16 (talk) 10:15, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Wikifunctions & Abstract Wikipedia Newsletter #182 is out: WordGraph release; New Special page: list functions by tests; new type for day of the year, and much more

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