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... that as a teenager in the 1900s, Annie Huggett organised suffragette meetings at her local pub?
Source: "Annie Huggett was born Annie Clara French in Halstead, Essex, in 1892 ... Though Annie was never arrested, she was very much part of the suffragette movement, and organised meetings for the cause in the former George Inn in Barking Broadway – known then as the Three Lamps – when she was just 18." from: Hedges-Stocks, Zoah (21 September 2016). "Post Memories: Women's centre named after Barking suffragette Annie Huggett". Barking and Dagenham Post. Retrieved 28 October 2024.
ALT1: ... that at 103 years old, Annie Huggett was the oldest surviving suffragette at the time of her 1996 death? Source: "Annie was proud to be both the country’s oldest surviving suffragette and the longest card-carrying member of the Labour Party. ,,, The Red Flag was sung at Annie’s funeral in 1996 when she was laid to rest in Rippleside Cemetery." from the same source
ALT2: ... that because of her republican beliefs, Annie Huggett's family hid from her the telegram sent by Elizabeth II to mark a British person's 100th birthday? Source: "He last saw Annie in May 1992 on her 100th birthday and remembers two cards being pride of place on her mantelpiece – one was from the Labour Party, the other was from Barking Town FC ... He said both were very important to her – but there was one birthday message that certainly wasn’t on display: her message from the Queen. When Gerry asked Annie’s daughter about its whereabouts he was told that they had hidden it for fear of offending her as she was a lifelong and staunch republican." from the same source
Interesting life and work, on few but fine sources, no copyvio obvious. I like the interesting short hook! I have a few wishes for the article: 1) give him an infobox, or it looks as if it was an article about a coat of arms, 2) avoid "would" - everything is now past, 3) bring the refs above the cited sources - no idea why German and others have it differently, but in English, that's normal, 4) formal the one source that's not yet among Cited sources like the others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much Gerda! I will go through the article and make some of the improvements you suggest, and certainly change the order of refs and cited sourced. I really dislike infoboxes though. Yakikaki (talk) 18:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that Arthur France founded the first West Indian carnival in Europe?
Source: ref 5 (url:https://lucas.leeds.ac.uk/article/the-leeds-west-indian-carnival-is-fifty) 'The Carnival in Leeds reached its fiftieth consecutive performance in August 2017, proudly maintaining its original title: The Leeds West Indian Carnival (LWIC). It was the first Caribbean-style street carnival in Europe' .. 'Nevis-born Arthur France ... pulled together the committee that created the early carnivals in Leeds'
Article is new, long enough and neutral. It is sourced with inline citations. "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" reports no crucial text similarities commenting "violation unlikely". Both hooks are well-formatted and interesting.Their length is within limit. They are accurate with reference given inline. QPQ was done. Good to go. CeeGee10:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that Light Vessel 93(pictured) was converted into a photography studio?
Source: "A 40-metre-long former lighthouse vessel and celebrity photo studio up for sale in Royal Victoria Dock for £595,000 through Riverhomes." from: Clover, Jack (1 September 2021). "Lighthouse ship that played host to a Bond girl for sale for £595k". The Standard. Retrieved 30 October 2024.
... that the 2017 Vocaloid song "Dune" composed by Kenshi Yonezu has a music video that was viewed over one million times over the span of less than a week on the Japanese video-sharing site NicoNico?
Hi Darth Stabro, review follows: article promoted to GA on 3 November; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraphrasing from the sources in a spot check; hook fact is interesting, stated in article and supported by citations (I note one source says "almost 10,000" and one says "more than 10,000" so I think you are OK just stating 10,000); a QPQ has been carried out; my only query is on the image: do you have confirmation that it is a work of a US military person, I couldn't see anything in the source? It is likely to be the case but we should confirm - Dumelow (talk) 18:54, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Howdy Dumelow, the photographer is a historical researcher and I can't imagine where else it would be from other than an official photo; however you're right, it's not 100%, and I don't have the time to try to confirm it this week - probably best to do it without the photo. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs14:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Stephen: this article, promoted to GA on November 1, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and presentable. No copyvio or close paraphrase. Hook sourced, short enough, and interesting. QPQ does not need to be done. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 02:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Stephen Walch and Tenpop421: Would something closer to the article's text like below not be more clear. In the original hook "[he]" seems to refer to the scholar at first.
ALTX... that a manuscript of the New Testament was bound in the wrong order, to which a scholar decried "the bookbinder has messed everything up"?
Overall: Covered for newness, length, sourcing, neutrality, is plagiarism-free, and the hook is cited and interesting. QPQ done. Good to go on this one! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 18:03, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Goodman has participated in three FIBA sanctioned tournaments. The first was just a regional competition for countries in Oceania. The second was a tournament for countries in Asia (and/including Oceania). The third was for countries around the world. I use the term global to mean a tournament open to worldwide/global contestants. Such tournaments select honorary teams to recognize the best performers in the tournament. These teams are called all-tournament teams and the players chosen are honorees. Sometimes the tournament will select a best five (the first team) and a next best five (the second team).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see the support for the statement "A member of the Democratic Party, he worked with what was believed to be the first all-Muslim city council in the United States." in the newsweek reference. It should be referenced to the fox news website. I can't read the NY Times reference but AGF.
I don't see the support for the statement "Ghalib acknowledged their disagreements on key issues but that he believed that Trump would end the Israel–Hamas war." in the two references given
@Dwkaminski: sorry about the sources, a lot were added by another user (see history). The Newsweek source states that he was a member of the Democratic Party whilst the New York Times sources the rest. The Newsweek sources states "acknowledging some disagreements with the former president" and in the New York Times it states that "President Biden’s support of Israel and a belief that Mr. Trump will end the conflict in the Middle East." You can view the source in its archived form. Sahaib (talk) 13:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Personally I'm not sure this is interesting enough for DYK. We saw plenty of people cross party lines to endorse Biden or Harris, and I don't believe those would be interesting enough for DYK either. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:25, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: It was founded in 1849 by the Archdiocese of Philadelphia and is the first catholic cemetery founded in Philadelphia. (guidetophilly.com)
ALT1: ... that over 50 members of the 69th Pennsylvania Infantry are interred at Cathedral Cemetery in Philadelphia? Source: The cemetery contains the burial of over 50 members of the 69th Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment, a volunteer regiment of Irish immigrants that fought at the Battle of Gettysburg and other major battles of the American Civil War. (Keels - page 97)
ALT2: ... that the funds from the sale of burial lots at Cathedral Cemetery in Philadelphia were used for the construction of the Cathedral Basilica of Saints Peter and Paul? Source: The cemetery was named Cathedral Cemetery since funds raised by the sale of burial lots were intended for the construction of the Cathedral Basilica of Saints Peter and Paul. (Keels - page 91)
Overall: The article exceeds the 1,500-character minimum of readable prose. The information is succinct and informative, written in a neutral tone, with no apparent bias or promotional language. While the article is sourced adequately, it could benefit from a few more inline citations in the "Notable burials" section (Please note that all of the individuals listed can be verified via their respective Wikipedia pages, but citations linking to reliable secondary sources would strengthen the section). I checked for potential plagiarism or close paraphrasing using online tools, and the content seems original. I noticed the DYK submission currently lacks an image, the free image in the article would enhance the article's visual appeal and could engage readers more effectively. A nice read, all three hooks are valid and more or less interesting. For me it's good to go. el.ziade (talkallam) 13:29, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rjjiii: Thanks for this catch. I've updated the wikipedia page to read "the first of 12 diocesan cemeteries built in the Philadelphia area". I think the other ALTs are fine so I will not propose an alternate to ALT0. Dwkaminski (talk) 14:22, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that Gail Damerow's book described by the New York Times as the "authoritative book on ice cream" was created because of the lack of good recipes in her ice cream maker's recipe booklet? Source: "The scoop on ice cream" - The Knoxville News-Sentinel
Interesting hook but slight problems that could be resolved before I can complete a final confirmation for it to be approved for DYK. Overall the article has no copyright problems and both the hooks are mentioned in the article. But the problem is related to how the hooks are mentioned in the article. As I see when it comes to ALT1, it mentions that ' that Gail Damerow's book described by the New York Times as the "authoritative book on ice cream" was created because of the lack of good recipes in her ice cream maker's recipe booklet?. However in the article where the hook ('Awards and Honors') is mentioned, it just states 'described by The New York Times as the authoritative book on ice cream'. Hope you can fix this issue by adding more of the ALT1's fact here. The first hook is fine. So just fix the stated issue and after that I can give green light for your article for DYK. - Toadboy123 (talk) 09:54, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Toadboy123, I wasn't aware of that being a requirement for hooks? I've had a number of hooks that involved multiple parts of an article. And the info about the inspiration for the book doesn't really fit in an Awards section, particularly since it has to do with events in her life and where she was living. SilverserenC22:00, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Town of Namie (population 21,000) was evacuated as a result of the accident.
... that residents evacuated in the wake of the Fukushima nuclear accident were exposed to so little radiation that radiation-induced health effects are likely to be below detectable levels?
Source: "Outside the geographical areas most affected by radiation, even in locations within Fuku-
shima prefecture, the predicted risks remain low and no observable increases in cancer
ALT1: ... that during the Fukushima nuclear accident officials were told not to use the phrase "core meltdown" in order to conceal the meltdown until they officially recognized it two months after the accident? Source: " Tepco asked a third-party panel to investigate the matter and the panel released a report on 16 June saying the company’s then-president, Masataka Shimizu, had instructed officials not to use the words "core meltdown"." https://www.neimagazine.com/news/tepco-concealed-core-meltdowns-during-fukushima-accident-4931915/
@Czarking0: I'll start by addressing WP:DYKNEW. This article last appeared at In the news on 12 April 2011, and the on this day on 11 March 2023. This was over one year ago, so it can go on the main page again.
The article recently became a good article so it is eligible for DYK. Earwig's is not working so i'll assume good faith when it comes to copyvios. QPQ not needed.
I'll review ALT0 (I think it is the most interesting). The hook matches the article.
I'm worried about the source for this hook because it is a preliminary report, which uses predictions of health effects rather than observations. It also doesn't say about the evacuations and also says In the highest dose location ... For leukaemia, the lifetime risks are predicted to increase by up to around 7% over baseline cancer rates in males exposed as infants However, a 2020 source says that No adverse health effects among Fukushima residents have been documented that are directly attributable to radiation exposure from the FDNPS accident. So I'll approve, with caution. ―Panamitsu(talk)05:42, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Jiangwan Racecourse(pictured) hosted horse races, a golf club, and prisoners of war?
Source: Sports facilities: Chen Yangyang (陈洋阳) (5 February 2016). 老上海体育建筑遗存:江湾跑马厅民国时期面貌考 参考网 [Remains of Old Shanghai Sports Buildings: A Study of the Appearance of the Jiangwan Racecourse during the Republic of China Period]. Sports Research (in Chinese). 4. Archived from the original on 21 April 2024. Retrieved 3 November 2024 – via Back Issue Magazine Reading Platform and Reference Network.;
ALT1: ... that British forces severed a Chinese railway line after an aircraft was forced to land at the Jiangwan Racecourse(pictured)? Source: "Firm Action by British Military in Shanghai". The North-China Herald. Shanghai. 20 August 1927. pp. 309–310. Retrieved 3 November 2024.
Hi Chris Woodrich, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 3 November and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I am not familiar with all of the sources (particularly the none-English ones) but happy to AGF that they are all reliable; image looks to be PD (as was in public domain at URAA date); hooks facts are mentioned in the article and check out to source cited, my preference is probably for ALT0 as the connection between the aircraft landing and dismantling the railway is not obvious to the reader; a QPQ has been carried out; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraprasing in a spotcheck and Earwig doesn't flag up any issues. Looks OK to me - Dumelow (talk) 16:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Historic England. "Islington – St John the Evangelist". Taking Stock. Quote: "Pugin castigated the Romanesque Revival building as ‘the most original combination of modern deformity that has been executed for some time past’. In response, the design was defended by Joseph Hansom in The Builder."
Joseph Hansom. 1 April 1843. "The Present State of Ecclesiastical Architecture in England". The Builder Volume 1, page 98. Quote: "This church, so far from exhibiting the adoption of true Catholic principles, which we have had so much pleasure in describing at Masbro’, is certainly the most original combination of modern deformity that has been erected for some time past for the sacred purpose of a Catholic church," and, "And now, we tell our readers that this new church of Islington, which Mr. Scoles has built, and which Mr. Pugin insists he ought not to have built, and which he has done no little damage to by his strictures, depriving it of the contribution of many whose purses yield more to dictation in such matters than to reason or to judgment; this church of Mr. Scoles is withal a fine and noble church."
Denis Evinson, Catholic Churches of London, Sheffield: Sheffield Academic Press, 1998, page 140. Quote: "Scoles's neo-Norman design was severely castigated by Pugin in The Dublin review, in which he called for a rebuilding of Islington's mediaeval Gothic church. Joseph Hansom, however, powerfully defended Scoles's church in the pages of The Builder, of which he was then editor, pointing out that Catholicism had other 'beautiful forms, styles and adaptations in store for us."
Hi Cardofk, nice work on this article. Review follows: article created 3 November and is of good length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources (though I usually avoid British Listed Buildings as it is a mirror of the Historic England listing; I didn't pick up on any paraphrasing issues; hook fact is interesting enough for me, mentioned in the article and checks out to sources cited; image is freely licensed; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks good to go - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One minor thing I had a quick look at the Archdiocese directory page cited and found ti listed the Sunday masses as "Sunday (Sat 6pm), 9.30am, 11am (Sung)" and not the four times you have? One other thing you might consider is adding some background to the "foundation" section on why Catholicism was practised in secret and the timing of the Catholic relief acts, the unknowing reader might otherwise be a little confused how we went from arresting priests to constructing a church - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, very good point, thanks for spotting it, I really should have linked to the Reformation at the beginning. Will do. Thanks again, Cardofk (talk) 08:40, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
article is new enough, long enough and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ is not required. « Gonzo fan2007(talk) @ 20:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that Arab physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud was recruited by the Latin king of Jerusalem to treat a disabled boy prince, while Abu Sulayman's son taught the prince to ride a horse using only his knees?
Source: "Abu Sulayman worked for the king for a while, even treating his son Baldwin's leprosy..." Zimo p. 158 "He also engaged Abul’Khair, Abu Sulayman’s brother, to teach the boy to ride ... with his knees alone." Hamilton p. 28
ALT1: ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud served both Latin Christian and Arab Muslim rulers? Source: "This Eastern Christian family thus knit together different political and religious groups of the region by bringing their medical expertise to serve both the Franks and the Ayyubids. Zimo p. 159
ALT2: ... that Arab Christian physician Abu Sulayman Da'ud treated the Christian prince Baldwin of Jerusalem, but as an astrologer sent a message to Baldwin's enemy Saladin prophesizing Saladin's victory? Source: "... he also took a message from his father, a noted astrologer, to Saladin, assuring him that he would conquer Jerusalem." Hamilton p. 186
Comment: Hamilton describes Abu Khayr in his 2000 book as Abu Sulayman's brother. Other cited sources, as well as Hamilton in his 1980 book, describes Abu Khayr as Abu Sulayman's son.
Created by Surtsicna (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 185 past nominations.
Overall: New article with 2380 characters, well-sourced with inline citations. I reviewed all cited sources for verification; all sources are accessible. No issues with copyvio or tone. All hooks are interesting, well-researched, and properly cited. Thank you for writing about Abu Sulayman, an exceptional figure whose life bridged cultural and religious divides. As an Arab Christian, I appreciate how this article highlights the contributions of Eastern Christians, and Arabs in general in medicine and science. el.ziade (talkallam) 10:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2: ... that a Carlyle Hotel staffer once lent his own bow tie to Laurence Olivier for a dinner? Source: Agovino, Theresa (November 21, 1988). "Secrets of Carlyle's Success". Crain's New York Business. Vol. 4, no. 47. p. 3.
ALT3: ... that during the construction of the Carlyle Hotel, the pipes in its bathrooms were changed after its developer's son visited two nearby construction sites? Source: Brenner, Marie (December 19, 1983). "The Inside Story of the Carlyle". New York Magazine. New York Media, LLC. p. 31.
Certainly updated recently, with a 114k-character expansion, so new enough, and long enough. It is well-sourced and not too closely paraphrased. The hooks are short and interesting. I would go for ALT1, for me it's the most interesting/surprising, but I'm happy with all of them (and who's knows what other hooks are in store). And QPQ has been done. If there is a problem, I cannot find it. Thank you. Cardofk (talk) 21:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is a newly created article, which is well written, well sourced and has no copyvio issues. The hook is interesting, a good length, and checks out with the source (verified in google books); the hook is appropriately referenced in the article. QPQ has been done. Nice work! Chaiten1 (talk) 17:16, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is fine in every respect (long enough, well-written and recently enough promoted to GA), and the hook is good, but it is not backed up by the wording in the article. In the article it simply says that the standards are "much longer" than the body, now "twice the length". There should also be an inline citation supporting the claim directly after the sentence in which it is made. It's a small fix, after which the article should be ready for DYK. Yakikaki (talk) 22:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that the length given of a broad secondary flight feather[4] on each wing elongated to up to 53.5 centimetres makes sense to describe as "twice the length of its body" since earlier the bird's length is given as this medium-sized (20–23 centimetres (7.9–9.1 in) long) nightjar and 53.5÷2=26.75 > 23 cm. Though since it's "up to" I could see justifying adding "that can be" after "wing ornament" in the hook. Additionally the quote in the source describes the bird's body as "21-22 cm" and immediately after gives a minimum length of 45 cm with the standards. I could change it to say directly in the article "over twice the length" instead of just "much longer" though. Reconrabbit00:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I wasn't arguing that the facts were not in the article or not supported by the inline citations. DYK used to have a rule, though, which stated "The facts of the hook need to appear in the article with a citation no later than at the end of the sentences in which they appear." However I see now that the rules have changed and become more flexible, and I can therefore happily drop this minor objection and give the green light to the article. Nice work! Yakikaki (talk) 15:51, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Landau, Brent (2017). "Under the Influence (of the Magi): Did Hallucinogens Play a Role in the Inspired Composition of the Pseudepigraphic Revelation for the Magi?". In Fakes, Forgeries, and Fictions, a monograph collection. It's not online... but you can read chapter titles at https://www.tonyburke.ca/fakes-forgeries-and-fictions/ ... and I think just the title of this work is sufficient!
ALT1: ... that the Revelation of the Magi, a Christian work in Syriac, is proposed to describe ritual hallucinogen intake, perhaps of hallucinogenic mushrooms? Source: See above.
Comment: I prefer the original or ALT1. Providing ALT2 mostly in case people really, really don't want to include the drug use. (I don't think ALT2 fails the DYKFICTION as fiction & mythology are two different things IMO and describing mythology / religion is okay, but mentioning that issue here if you want to be a stickler about real-world stuff.)
Converted from a redirect by SnowFire (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.
Article is new enough and long enough. No copyright violations detected, and it appears to be within policy. Hook facts are interesting, and check out to the sources. Hook lengths are good. My only issue is I do think we need to make it clear that it is only one scholar suggesting/proposing the hallucinogen mushroom theory. This isn't a claim that we can say is widely proposed. Once the hook is modified accordingly I can approve it. Best.4meter4 (talk) 01:12, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1B: ... that the Revelation of the Magi, a Christian work in Syriac, is proposed by a scholar to describe ritual hallucinogen intake, perhaps of hallucinogenic mushrooms?
@4meter4: I've created variants above to address the concern. For what it's worth, on the original hooks are fine... I agree that for most topics, "just one scholar" is insufficient, but in the case of this work, there are basically just ~4-5 scholars who have published on it in English, and the scholar proposing this is the one who's published the most. (Not that quantity is a substitute for quality, of course.) That said, it's not a big deal to add two words. SnowFire (talk) 01:27, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Page 979, "he graduated as Civil Engineer with the first class of Lehigh in 1869". Page 979, "he served as Chief of the Guatemala Boundary Commission, charged
with the duty of determining and locating the disputed frontier between Guatemala and Mexico"
Comment: Just created the article, fascinating individual, will try to get a photo uploaded... Also, I did a QPQ because I have a bunch of DYK's from a few years ago
Created by Dmadeo (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Overall: Earwig's copyvio detector shows 11.5% - violation unlikely. No qpq required but still did one - Bravo! I recommend to remove Lehigh University from the hook. Maybe a connection between his name (Rock) and being a geologist? "Miles Rock, a geologist, helped determine the border between Guatemala and Mexico"? Dwkaminski (talk) 21:34, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dwkaminski: Thanks for the review! I'm just amazed he goes from the Civil War to the first class at Lehigh (bias: I went there) to helping found an observatory in Argentina to defining the boundary of two countries in really rough terrain without just saying it was the middle of a river. He wasn't "just" a geologist, like many engineers and scientists in that time, he was many things. Plus, his descendants gave a treasure trove of materials to Lehigh which is why they are having exhibitions, videos, etc. Having said all that, perhaps one of the the following would be a good hook?
@Dmadeo: ALT2 is a bit too much. How about ALT1a ...that Miles Rock served as Chief of the Guatemala Boundary Commission that determined the disputed Guatemala-Mexico border?
... that because she went to a high school with strict rules, Hikari Kodama would wear wigs while making public performances? Source: [4] ("はい。中学3年生の冬に初めてオーディションを受けて、そこから3年ほど事務所に所属しました。でも、校則が厳しい高校に通っていたので、表立った芸能活動ができなかったんですよ。なので、その頃はカツラを被ったりしながらライブをしてました(笑)。先生たちに気付かれないように。")
... that Susan Finnegan was the first female head of the arachnids section at the Natural History Museum, London, but had to resign her job in order to marry?
Source: ref 1 (https://www.jstor.org/stable/40233839) - 'Dr. Finnegan also holds the distinction of being the first woman appointed to a post at the Natural History Museum in London. She succeeded Arthur Stanley Hirst .. in 1927' ref 2 (https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/40acbb6f-6b5f-42b4-b75d-4cf24e370a79) - 'the Arachnida Section was ... set up in 1913 .. Hirst .. was succeeded by Susan Finnegan (b. 1903), who continued Hurst's work on Acari until she resigned in 1936 to marry Walter Campbell Smith'
ALT2: ... that zoologist Susan Finnegan was the first woman appointed to a post at the Natural History Museum in London? Source: ref 1 (https://www.jstor.org/stable/40233839) - 'Dr. Finnegan also holds the distinction of being the first woman appointed to a post at the Natural History Museum in London. She succeeded Arthur Stanley Hirst .. in 1927'
Cited: - The sources say she left on marrying but not that that was the policy. You might want to consider citing this in reference to the marriage ban policy in British museums.
Thank you! I have updated as you suggest and also found another reference, by Wyse Jackson & Spencer Jones 'Finnegan was appointed in 1927 and .. left in 1936. This was precipitated by her marriage to W. Campbell Smith, of the Department of Mineralogy in the Museum. He remained in post.' @Mary Mark Ockerbloom:Chaiten1 (talk) 23:34, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hook interesting, article new and long enough with adequate referencing. Hook fact cited inline and verified in the relevant source. QPQ is done. Earwig gives a fairly high number but that is due to attributed quotes which are relevant to the article. Good to go. Juxlos (talk) 04:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Panamitsu, have you thought of asking Zoo Miami whether they'd like to donate a free photo to Wikipedia? Maybe as part of their ongoing redemption? I do remember that their publicity officer was rather onto it. And on a different front, I encouraged User:Paora to review this article as that seemed rather appropriate. But obviously, he's missed the boat. Schwede6607:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Schwede66: Haha yes it certainly would've been funny if Paora reviewed this nomination. As for the image, I haven't thought of that, although it sounds like a good idea. I prefer not to ask organisations for images so I won't be doing it myself. You are welcome to do it if you wish, although I do realise that you will be more focussed on other projects that are more meaningful to you. ―Panamitsu(talk)04:21, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, no problems. I've managed to track down an email address for the zoo's communications director, Ron Magill. I've flicked him an email. Let's see what comes back. Can I suggest that prep promoters sit tight for a few days to see whether the zoo would like to make a photo available? Panamitsu, maybe you'd enjoy giving Magill's bio a bit of a tidy up – it could certainly do with one. Schwede6608:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Saparov, Arsène (2014). From conflict to autonomy in the Caucasus: the Soviet Union and the making of Abkhazia, South Ossetia and Nagorno Karabakh. Routledge.
Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Olympian (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is not required. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 18:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Until World War I, the Russian Empire and the Ottoman Empire controlled the Caucasus, and both collapsed during the war. At least some mention of this would help readers unfamiliar with the region understand the situation better. Right now, I only see this hinted at with "attaining independence from Russia".
Regarding "In 1920, the region [Zangezur] was invaded by units of the Red Army" why is this in the background, when it discusses events events after the agreement is signed?
Regarding "In March 1920, the local Armenians revolted with the support of Armenia" the same as above, why include this in the background section?
Saparov (2014) mentions militias in Nagorno-Karabakh throughout this conflict, I don't see these mentioned in the Wikipedia article. So when it says "the local Armenians", is this referring a widespread uprising or an ongoing military conflict with those militia groups?
The article quotes a historian saying the agreement was "basically a declaration of intent". Can this article expand on that? What is a declaration of intent? Do historians find evidence that either side intended to build any kind of long-term diplomatic relationship from this? The "Aftermath" section seems to imply the opposite.
Does the Red Army invasion of Azerbaijan render this agreement moot? It occurs just weeks after the final line of the "Aftermath" section.
Thanks, Rjjiii, I implemented your feedback/exceptions. With regard to the Saparov source, I'm not sure of your concern as he describes the local Armenians who were involved in the rebellion as "rebels" from pages 94–95. The [Armenian] militias, by my understanding, largely operated in Zangezur (a neighbouring, albeit isolated, Armenian-controlled province) which was more-less a part of Armenia at the time. – Olympianloquere11:01, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that René Vallon(pictured) achieved both the first flight and first flight-related death in China?
Source: Areddy, James T. (22 February 2011). "China Marks 100 Years of Flight". The Wall Street Journal. Shanghai. Archived from the original on 2 July 2022. Retrieved 6 November 2024.
It was intended for brevity. How about ALT1 ... that René Vallon(pictured) achieved the first flight in China, but died less than three months later in the country's first aviation accident? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:41, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT0a could be revised since the wording is rather vague and doesn't make it clear that he was the first flight-related death in China. The hook could be interpreted to mean he was involved in the death without saying he was the fatality. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
With multiple ALT hooks proposed, a reviewer is needed to ensure the article and hooks are approved, and to comment on which ones are the most interesting. Z1720 (talk) 15:21, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hook idea, without known for: that René Vallon(pictured) achieved China's first flight and was its first flight-related death? -- But I might insert "and, three months later..." to clarify that aspect. ProfGray (talk) 20:04, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: NPOV and clear. Impressive use of historical sources -- I looked at a few, didn't notice any problems, nor did Earwig. There's an image of the crashed plane, though prob not suitable for DYK. ALT0b is fine and maybe we tweak to make it shorter. ProfGray (talk) 19:55, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that Kwan Man-ching(pictured), who directed more than fifty films in forty years, entered the industry hoping to meet his celebrity crush?
Source: Chung, Stephanie (2022). "From Silent Films to Talkies: Rediscovering Moon Kwan Man-ching". Exploring Hong Kong Films of the 1930s and 1940s: Part 1: Era and Film History(PDF). Translated by Chin, Roberta. Hong Kong: Hong Kong Film Archive. pp. 32–49. ISBN978-962-8050-77-2. Archived from the original(PDF) on 15 March 2023. Retrieved 7 November 2024. "Later, Kwan would reminisce that his choice to commit to the film industry in his youth was not only a way of survival, but also because of his wish to revitalise China’s industry. He also chose film because of its ability to subtly influence, making it a good tool to educate the people. Another reason was because he was very attracted to actress Mary Pickford, and had hoped for an opportunity to get close to her in the film studio." Number of films is listed at "關文清 Moon Kwan / Kwan Man Ching (1896-1995)". 香港電影導演大全, 1914-1978 [The Ultimate Guide to Hong Kong Film Directors, 1914-1978] (in Chinese). Hong Kong: Hong Kong Film Directors Guild. 2018. ISBN978-988-12666-0-6. (I count more than sixty).
ALT1: ... that Kwan Man-ching(pictured) advised D. W. Griffith to forego queues with Broken Blossoms? Source: Lester, Jason (2023). Experiments with China in American Modernity (Thesis). University of Oregon – via ProQuest. "Whereas Kwan positioned himself in relation to signifiers of classical Chinese tradition in his endeavors within poetry and fine art, he went to great lengths in Griffith’s production to advocate for the modernity of the Chinese people. He persuaded Griffith against the Chinese protagonist of the film wearing a queue, arguing it would be woefully anachronistic for a narrative taking place in the current day."
ALT1: ... that after surviving an attack by Cayubaba warriors, Pablo Busch(pictured) spent a month with an arrowhead lodged in his vertebra? Source: Hollweg 1995, p. 331; Brockmann 2017, pp. 28–29.
ALT2: ... that a bandit spared the life of physician Pablo Busch(pictured) because "he treated the poor for free"? Source: Hollweg 1995, p. 333, "Hurtado le tenía respeto y admiración, porque 'curaba gratis a los pobres'"; Brockmann 2017, p. 31.
Overall: AGF for ALT1, and ALT3. ALT0, ALT2 citations verified. Four interesting hooks. I think ALT0, and ALT3 convey his notability, while the others his peculiarity. -Bogger (talk) 09:01, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Kimikel, this is an overall decent article. It was nominated on the day it was created, and the summary is concise while the other sections are well-sourced. Regarding the hook, tbh I do not find it particularly unique or interesting, but I attempted to come up with an alternative hook based on the other content of the article and was unable to do so. So, I suppose the current hook is our only option, and I am willing to approve it. Earwig shows no copyvio. QPQ done. Good to go! —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul)19:42, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT4: ... that when an artwork with 40,000 dreams was destroyed by an arson attack, its creator Ritsuko Taho said that it was "almost like a god tried to take [them]"? Source: ALT3
This is currently only a partial review as I'm having issues with Earwig at the moment so I am unable to check for close paraphrasing. The article is new enough and long enough. It is adequately sourced. A full QPQ was performed. Among the hooks, ALT5 is definitely the most intriguing and thus the best option. The Newspaper.com link is paywalled for me so I will assume good faith regarding the quote. I do suspect that there could be opposition to it on WP:DYKGRAT grounds, but that's counting the chickens before they hatch, so let's cross the bridge if/when we get there. If for whatever reason ALT5 cannot be used or is rejected, ALT4 is the best backup option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:27, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Article looks good. The only issue is that I don't see the quote from the hook "greatest games of his fabulous career" in the article? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that Nikolaus Mollyn was the first book printer in Riga, the capital of Latvia, and the first to print a book in Latvian within the present-day territory of Latvia? Source: Both Sander and Berthold for the first claim (their articles literally have "first printer of Riga" in their titles); Sander p. 796 for the second claim.
Comment: While there's no hard rule or guideline discouraging it, best practice is to try and avoid superlatives if possible because as it turns out, the claim that x is first with y tends to be disputed, controversial, or a matter of opinion in many cases. I'm not sure how to best word it, so perhaps User:RoySmith would care to correct me. Viriditas (talk) 23:47, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The way I generally approach these is to consider how reliable the record keeping is and especially if it's possible to enumerate all the possible other examples and show that this one must be first. So, it's a safe statement to say that Neil Armstrong was the first person on the moon because I have exceptional confidence that somebody didn't get there before him and somehow the record of that just got lost. Not so with this example. I'd recommend this be qualified with something like "is believed to be", "the first recorded", or something like that. I've been slowly working on an essay on this topic. It's not complete, but User:RoySmith/essays/First is worst may provide some value. RoySmith(talk)00:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Yakikaki: I planned to review this and request new hooks per the above, but it failed the very first spot check. I made the change in the article.[6] Please take a moment to review the article and make sure the text to source integrity holds up. Viriditas (talk) 08:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas:, @RoySmith: Thanks both for engaging in this review and trying to improve it and the article. First of all, regarding the minor change to the article concerning Mollyn's father and his printing activities in Antwerp: fair enough, the revised wording is closer to the source. I do in general try to avoid phrasing which is too close to the source, as this can be a copyvio issue. In this case I think I also got a bit confused because Mollyn junior was in the same situation later, which is described in detail in the next page of the same article, and since he doubtlessly DID print religious material critical to the Catholic church I made a minor mix-up. So thanks for spotting that. Now to the question of the claim in the hook. Well, I can live with "the first recorded" by all means. I would however like to underline that the claim that he was the first printer in Riga has been put forward at least since 1795 (but of course, since I try to be a serious Wikipedia editor, I would not dream of using a source from 1795 in the actual article) and has not been contested. In fact, all sources – reasonable, academic sources – I've been able to find on the subject confirm the claim. It is not an outlandish or grotesque claim. In fact, it used to be precisely the kind of things one was encouraged to put in DYKs (provided, of course it was properly supported). I understand that in some other cases there may have slipped through one or two claims in DYK which were on closer inspection quite fanciful (and, perhaps, politically motivated or in general sensationalist). I would argue that this is not the case here, and that we shouldn't throw the baby out with the bath-water. Yakikaki (talk) 14:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Viriditas:, @RoySmith: A small addendum: comparing the claim in the hook here with the examples given in Roy's draft essay, I would say this one is comparable, at worst, to the Roger Bannister example. The history of early printing is a thoroughly researched area. We have a good idea at the pace in which printing spread through Europe and 1588 seems in no way unreasonable for the first printing press to have been set up in Riga. Furthermore, it was an undertaking which required financial muscles and was something of a major event in the history of a city, so it usually left a mark in archives etc. So all in all, again, the claim is not extravagant or strange. It is certainly very far from the example of the pub with the traffic lights (a peculiar claim to fame indeed!). Sorry for my wordy replies here but I thought it best to put forward my thoughts and reasoning, to let you know that it wasn't a proposal I hatched on a whim. Yakikaki (talk) 14:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Article is new enough and long enough. Earwig shows no problems. First part of the hook verified, second part sourced to Sander (1998) taken on good faith as I don't have access to it. The English is well written and engaging. I recommend altering the hook per RoySmith's suggestion, although I'm not going to hold up this nomination, but others might. I made a small number of minor copyedits.[7] Please review. Viriditas (talk) 02:04, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]