Template talk:Did you know/Approved/week-3
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Hasan Ali (activist)
[edit]- ... that in 1996, language activist Hasan Ali used seven sentences to distinguish the Osing language from Javanese in front of experts? Source: [1], p30-31
- ALT1: ... that language activist Hasan Ali spent over 20 years to compile a dictionary of the Osing language? Source: [2]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mobtown Ballroom
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 08:08, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
- The article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. I did not find any close paraphrasing. Sources are mostly in Indonesian so assuming good faith for them, although the PhD dissertation is in English and the stuff it verifies is verified. I will leave the choice in hook to the promoter. There are just two issues, one for each hook. For ALT0, I'm not actually sure if a PhD dissertation is a suitable source in this case, although it's not giving an exceptional claim perhaps it might be usable. For ALT1, the sentence saying that it was finished in 2002 (and thus the dictionary took 24 years to finish) lacks a footnote, so right now it doesn't meet WP:DYKCITE. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:19, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Juxlos: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:26, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Added inline for ALT1. Juxlos (talk) 03:09, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Juxlos: Almost there. I tried opening the Tempo link used to cite ALT1 but I got redirected to the website's front page. Is the article only available in Indonesia or is the link dead? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:03, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Weird, that worked when I made the nom. Seems like the website changed how its hyperlinks worked very recently. Added an archive.org link ([3]) from 2021.
- Thank you, that should work. Assuming good faith for the Tempo source, although a GT translation checks out. Hook choice will be left to the promoter. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Weird, that worked when I made the nom. Seems like the website changed how its hyperlinks worked very recently. Added an archive.org link ([3]) from 2021.
- @Juxlos: Almost there. I tried opening the Tempo link used to cite ALT1 but I got redirected to the website's front page. Is the article only available in Indonesia or is the link dead? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:03, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Veylma Falaeo
[edit]- ... that Veylma Falaeo is the first woman to be President of the Congress of New Caledonia?
- Source: RFI
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KTSF
- Comment: QPQ to be done within 24 hours. This would be the first DYK on someone born in New Caledonia ever.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:47, 19 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article looks good, giving a complete overview of the subject's biography, thoroughly citing its sources and presenting facts in a neutral manner. Per WP:DYKHOOK, "first" hooks are given greater scrutiny, but I think this meets the criteria for exceptional sourcing as RFI and other sources all draw attention to Falaeo being the first; the fact can also be independently verified by looking at the list of presidents of the congress (linked in the hook). Only thing currently missing is a QPQ, feel free to ping me once that is done. Grnrchst (talk) 14:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @BeanieFan11: Following up on the QPQ. In the future I would highly suggest having a stash of reviews and/or doing the reviews before making the nomination, in order to avoid cases like this. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:54, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Grnrchst: QPQ done. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:50, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Good to go! --Grnrchst (talk) 08:09, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Charles J. M. Gwinn
[edit]- ... that Charles J. M. Gwinn (pictured) was the first state's attorney of Baltimore elected under the constitution he helped draft?
- Source: Baltimore: Its History and Its People. Vol. 3. Lewis Historical Publishing Company. 1912. p. 870. OCLC 1041048386.
- ALT1: ... that a future attorney general of Maryland (pictured) helped draft the will of philanthropist Johns Hopkins? Source: Ibid., pp. 870–871.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Headless priest
Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 03:32, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
- Going to review this one! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:03, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- Article is new enough, having been moved from draftspace on October 12.
- Three times the required length, certainly long enough.
- Very well sourced, copyvio doesn't show anything substantial, no POV or BLP issues to be found.
- Article is presentable. If we want to quibble on the details, the second picture is staggered from the infobox on V10, but that's not the kind of presentability issue that really matters at DYK.
- Thankfully, the book is in open access! The first hook is fully cited there, and the second one is mostly cited there, although it does not mention that the will was drafted prior to him becoming Attorney General. To be fair, as Hopkins died two years prior, the inference is pretty obvious.
- Both hooks are short enough.
- The first hook is not necessarily amazing, as it already presumes knowledge of what a state's attorney in a city is (I didn't realize it was a distinct position from "attorney general" at first), and it isn't that surprising that someone drafting a constitution would get one of the offices it established. ALT1 is more interesting in my opinion, although it might depend on how recognizable Johns Hopkins is.
- All images used in the article are public domain, and the hook image is present in the article and clear at a diminished size, so it is a good image.
- QPQ has been done ahead of time.
- No other issues, as far as I can see.
- Should be fine for ALT1 at least! Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 13:28, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Kiki Wong
[edit]- ... that heavy metal guitarist Kiki Wong (pictured) played drums for Taylor Swift before joining The Smashing Pumpkins?
- Source: NME, June 2024: "Kiki Wong, the new guitarist in The Smashing Pumpkins, has spoken about the “mind-blowing” experience of playing her first shows with the band over the last week. [...] Among her claims to fame is playing drums for Taylor Swift's performance of "Shake It Off" at the 2014 MTV Video Music Awards."
Jonathan Deamer (talk) 12:59, 12 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Nice work! The pic especially is a great find. Innisfree987 (talk) 08:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Socialist Party of India (1955)
[edit]- ... that in its 1962 election campaign the Socialist Party of India (election symbol pictured) demanded that twice yearly inter-caste dining be made a mandatory criteria for government employment?
- Source: Sinha, L. P. THE LEFTWING PARTIES AND THE GENERAL ELECTIONS, 1962. The Indian Journal of Political Science, vol. 23, no. 1/4, 1962, pp. 361–70. JSTOR
Soman (talk) 15:08, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
- @Soman:
Save for the pending QPQ,the article meets all the criteria, hook is interesting (caste should be linked), and further the article is exceptionally well-researched and well-written. Al Ameer (talk) 17:10, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Bethwel Henry
[edit]- ... that Bethwel Henry was the first Micronesian to receive a degree in his field and served as a United Nations delegate at age 25?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Empire Brunei
- Comment: QPQ will be done within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is well sourced, hook is somewhat interesting and QPQ is completed. Playing a bit loose with the timing, but I don't see that being an issue, so I approve. TheBritinator (talk) 15:12, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
Mały Brzostek
[edit]- ... that there's a town in Poland which has disappeared?
- Source: Stanaszek, Bogdan (2007), "Z kart historii...", Brzostek: 640-lecie lokacji miasta (1367-2007). Tradycje – Perspektywy rozwoju (PDF) (in Polish), Brzostek: Towarzystwo Miłośników Ziemi Brzosteckiej i Urząd Gminy w Brzostku, p. 37–53, ISBN 978-83-901833-9-8
- ALT1: ... that in medieval Poland a town has been "absorbed" by its bigger neigbour? Source: Stanaszek, Bogdan (2007), "Z kart historii...", Brzostek: 640-lecie lokacji miasta (1367-2007). Tradycje – Perspektywy rozwoju (PDF) (in Polish), Brzostek: Towarzystwo Miłośników Ziemi Brzosteckiej i Urząd Gminy w Brzostku, p. 37–53, ISBN 978-83-901833-9-8
- ALT2: ... that in Poland there existed a town which has never appeared on any maps? Source: Stanaszek, Bogdan (2007), "Z kart historii...", Brzostek: 640-lecie lokacji miasta (1367-2007). Tradycje – Perspektywy rozwoju (PDF) (in Polish), Brzostek: Towarzystwo Miłośników Ziemi Brzosteckiej i Urząd Gminy w Brzostku, p. 37–53, ISBN 978-83-901833-9-8
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- Comment: My first nomination, so go easy on me :)
Filipny (talk) 20:50, 13 October 2024 (UTC).
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
- Interesting:
- Other problems: - AGF on the hook citations due to the fact that I don't speak Polish. ALT2 is ineligible due to the fact that it doesn't appear in the article (and also is somewhat contradicted by the map showing its location in the article). I'm not sure ALT1 is totally factual, is it really correct to say that a town that became a suburb of another was absorbed by it?
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Overall: Pass ALT0 only, other two hooks are ineligible for reasons described above. ALT0 probably also needs a minor reword, may I propose ALT0a: "... that a medieval town in Poland disappeared?". Although this isn't strictly a requirement, some copyediting to clean up awkward grammar/phrasing in the article before it appears on the front page would probably be nice. Thank you for this well researched article! 🌸wasianpower🌸 (talk • contribs) 03:04, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Ewa Ligocka
[edit]- ... that Ewa Ligocka cooked another mathematician's goose?
- Source: https://www.mimuw.edu.pl/media/uploads/memories/files/ewa-ligocka-ewa-ligocka-1947-2022-z-e-ma.pdf (in Polish but readable through translate; see PS1, page 2)
—David Eppstein (talk) 00:19, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: A pleasure to read, thank you! Good to go. Innisfree987 (talk) 09:10, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
Francis L. Sampson
[edit]- ... that Saving Private Ryan was based on a true story involving Francis L. Sampson (pictured), a paratrooper chaplain who eventually became the 12th Chief of Chaplains of the United States Army?
- Source: Longden, Tom (Dec 16, 2007). "War hero Sampson carried message of peace". The Des Moines Register. Retrieved 25 September 2024.
- ALT1: ... that when Francis L. Sampson (pictured) was captured during the D-Day landings, German soldiers did not believe he was a non-combatant because they had never seen a paratrooper chaplain before? Source: Warnock, Bill (1 December 2020). "D-Day Drama at the Klondike Aid Station". Warfare History Network. Archived from the original on 13 Oct 2024.
- ALT2: ... that Dwight Eisenhower nominated Francis L. Sampson (pictured) for the Medal of Honor, but he did not receive it as Army Chief of Staff George C. Marshall did not believe it to be appropriate for non-combatants? Source: Warnock, Bill (1 December 2020). "D-Day Drama at the Klondike Aid Station". Warfare History Network. Archived from the original on 13 Oct 2024.
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- Comment: The ALT1 and ALT2 hooks may need rewording; I'm open to suggestions. ALT2 could use File:D-Day Francis Sampson burials.jpg instead, perhaps cropped and zoomed a bit.
~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 15:12, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
- No QPQ needed. Passed GAN. Sources are reliable and article is long enough. Image is properly licensed. I think the first hook is too misleading, as when I first read it I thought it implied that Sampson's story played a big role in the film, but the article barely mentions that he suggested something to someone who's story did play a big role. I think that ALT 1 is better, but it should change the link to [[D-Day landings]] rather than the present [[Normandy landings|D-Day landings]] to keep it under the 200 character limit. Source is verified. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 08:49, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Jabulani Mabuza
[edit]- ... that "Buy Cash" is the Speaker of the House of Assembly of Eswatini?
- Source: the majority of sources refer to him by the nickname, e.g. refs 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 13.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zooming in on the Andromeda Galaxy
- Comment: QPQ will be done within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:04, 21 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi BeanieFan11, review follows: article created 14 October and exceeds minimum length; I am not familiar with any of the sources but they look to be reliable enough for the matter cited; I didn't pick up on any overly close paraphrasing; hook fact is interesting on account of the unusual nickname and checks out to sources. Think this just needs a QPQ, let me know when you have one ready - Dumelow (talk) 11:38, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: QPQ added. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:25, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good to me - Dumelow (talk) 06:20, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
Laws of London
[edit]- ... that according to the medieval legal compilation known as the Laws of London, also known as IV Æthelred, merchants from lands ruled by the German emperor appear to have enjoyed special trading privileges in eleventh-century London?
- Source: Robertson, Laws, p. 324; Naismith, "Laws of London", p. 2
Robertson: 'Subjects of the emperor appear to be specially privileged.' Naismith: 'Traders in London came from all over northern Europe: those of Rouen, Flanders, Ponthieu, Normandy and Francia are singled out, as well as others from specific towns in the Low Countries (Huy, Liège and Nivelles) and a group referred to as ‘the men of the emperor’ (homines imperatoris) who had especially wideranging
privileges.'- Reviewed:
Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 20:11, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
- Expension date, hook, length, close paraphrase check ok. No QPQ needed. --Soman (talk) 12:03, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Xifeng concentration camp
[edit]- ... that the barracks at the Xifeng concentration camp were named for Confucian tenets such as righteousness and filial piety?
- Source: Mühlhahn, Klaus (2009). Criminal Justice in China: A History. Cambridge: Harvard University Press. p. 137. ISBN 978-0-674-05433-2.
- ALT1: ... that the Kuomintang drew from both Nazi and Soviet examples when establishing the Xifeng concentration camp? Source: Mühlhahn, Klaus (2009). Criminal Justice in China: A History. Cambridge: Harvard University Press. p. 137. ISBN 978-0-674-05433-2.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Brenden Bates
- Comment: There could be a hook in Song Zhenzhong being an infant when detained at Xifeng and nine when executed, but I need a stout drink.
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:13, 14 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article new and long enough, well-referenced throughout. Both hooks confirmed in the Muhlhahn book, and both interesting, either will work. QPQ is done, and copyvio not detected (Earwig only flagged long names). Good to go. Juxlos (talk) 07:50, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
Rincón Chileno
[edit]- ... that Rincón Chileno was nicknamed the "second Chilean consulate" by the Chilean immigrant community in Los Angeles?
- ALT1: ... that Rincón Chileno was described by Jonathan Gold "as much community center as it is a restaurant"? Source: [8]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Aniello Prisco
- Comment:
I ask the reviewer's indulgence to please give me until Saturday (PDT) to upload an improved photo of Rincón Chileno's exterior. This one image here is the only one I have handy; thought I had more, but it turned out not.OK, new image added.
CurryTime7-24 (talk) 23:28, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article is newly created, large enough, and sourced throughout. Hook fact is cited. I'm not fluent in Spanish but can translate "el segundo consulado de Chile en Los Angeles". ALT1 is also cited and supported by the reference, though I think it's less interesting. Earwig finds a copyvio to be unlikely. Image is appropriate and looks good at that size. QPQ review is provided. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:59, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
John Moore (basketball)
[edit]- ... that after learning that UCLA's student body president was Black, John Moore's mother said "this is where he's going to school"?
- Source: "'You mean there are fifteen thousand students at this school, and out of all these people the student body president is black?' ... 'Well,' Johnny's mother said, 'this is where he's going to school.' "(Wooden: A Coach's Life)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ricot Joseph
- Comment: The source is offline. Let me know if more quotes are needed.
—Bagumba (talk) 18:26, 15 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough. Hook is interesting, reads good, and is short enough. Everything in the article is cited. I read the entire article and just fixed a few minor things. Approving the hook. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:51, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
He Fucked the Girl Out of Me
[edit]- ... that a review described He Fucked the Girl Out of Me as being about "all the ways in which American society fails its most vulnerable"?
- Reviewed:
- Comment: Not sure if this is the best hook, so feel free to make suggestions
Iostn (talk) 19:18, 18 October 2024 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
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- Long enough:
- Other problems: - One citation needed tag
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Overall: (t · c) buidhe 23:46, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Someone added the tag since I nominated this, despite it being in the lede and for material which is discussed further and cited in the same article. Iostn (talk) 22:44, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Buidhe: Are your concerns resolved, and is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 23:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like the citation needed tag is no longer there, so sure (t · c) buidhe 03:15, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
KTSF
[edit]- ... that a San Francisco TV station had to convince advertisers that its viewers would not "go down to Chinatown and buy a chicken on a string"? Source: https://www.genealogybank.com/newspaper-clippings/bay-area-chinese-have-american-buying-habits/irylramsqtgwsdckhbypyjpgvyusjjds_ip-10-166-46-152_1700154675048
- ALT1: ... that before it was dubbed into English and aired on national television, the Japanese TV show Iron Chef gained a cult following on a San Francisco TV station? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-san-francisco-examiner-new-chefs-at/135330361/ / https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-san-francisco-examiner-bill-citara/135330357/ and https://search.proquest.com/docview/280768060
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Meijer de Hond
- Comment: The ALT0 clip quote is a little hard to make out due to scan quality.
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:17, 19 October 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:07, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:49, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
Tea production in Indonesia
[edit]- ... that although tea was introduced to Indonesia in 1684, commercial production only began in the 1820s? Source: [9]
- ALT1: ... that during the colonial period, Indonesia was the largest exporter of tea outside of the British Raj? Source: [10]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Veiqia
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 06:57, 16 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Per WP:DYKCOMPLETE please expand the section Impact to more than a one sentence paragraph RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 02:16, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- Easier to merge it to Statistics. That better? Juxlos (talk) 02:41, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Juxlos: works for me. Thanks for the efforts to create this article.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 03:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
James Smart (police officer)
[edit]- ... that Keir Starmer described Chief Constable James Smart (pictured) as "one of the founding fathers of the Scottish Police"?
- Source: [1]
Sahaib (talk) 09:36, 16 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Sahaib, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 16 October and is of good length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I hadn't heard of the publisher used for the citaiton for the hook but the author looks like they are reliable, holding a PhD and having written on the history of Scottish police elsewher (and being a former police superintendent); hook fact is mentioned in the article and supported by the source; image is OK and looks to be public domain by virtue of age; I didn't pick up any issues with overly-close paraphrasing from the online sources; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks OK to me - Dumelow (talk) 10:24, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ McGowan, John (30 November 2022). Policing the Metropolis of Scotland: A History of Police in The City & County of Edinburgh, 1833-1901 (Volume I). Turlough Publishers. p. 1554. Retrieved 15 October 2023.
Derrick Harden
[edit]- ... that working at a post office was how Derrick Harden became an NFL player?
- Source: Capital Times ("Another Wisconsin native is wide receiver Derrick Harden, a former Milwaukee South standout. Former Green Bay Packer Lionel Aldridge, who worked with Harden at a Milwaukee post office, recommended him to the Packers." - i.e. he became a Packer because he worked with Aldridge at a post office, since the latter was able to get him a tryout in the league)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yan Ruisheng
- Comment: QPQ to be done within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:25, 24 October 2024 (UTC).
- article was recently promoted to GA, is long enough and within policy. The hook is interesting and short enough. BeanieFan11, just need a QPQ. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: I think you missed that I listed Yan Ruisheng above. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:09, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- You are right, I did (I saw the "QPQ to be done within 24 hours"). Looks good! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:35, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Gonzo fan2007: I think you missed that I listed Yan Ruisheng above. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:09, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Fishing cat
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that in Bangladesh, fishing cats are often confused for tiger cubs and are killed whenever they come into contact with humans?
ALT1: ... that the fishing cat (pictured) is estimated to have diverged together with the leopard cat between 4.31 to 1.74 million years ago and 4.25 to 0.02 million years ago?Source: https://zenodo.org/records/1230866 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4691742/- ALT2: ... that the fishing cat (pictured) is strongly associated with wetlands and preys foremost on fish?
- ALT3: ...that the fishing cat diverged from its sister species at least 20,000 years ago?
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Wolverine XI (talk to me) 09:06, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
- Starting review--Kevmin § 17:01, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- The first thing I notice is that alt1 doesnt actually make sense. What are the Fishing Cat and Leopard cats diverging from? Also the MYAs are notably specific, where are they from?--Kevmin § 17:19, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- They diverged from a common ancestor. This needs to be added. Or would that make ALT1 too long ? – BhagyaMani (talk) 20:47, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- The first thing I notice is that alt1 doesnt actually make sense. What are the Fishing Cat and Leopard cats diverging from? Also the MYAs are notably specific, where are they from?--Kevmin § 17:19, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Wolverine XI and BhagyaMani: A common ancestor of just the fishing cat or of the Fishing cat and the hybridized Leopard cat, or of the fishing and both leopard cat species? Also, the conflicting divergence estimates shouldn't be an "and" connector, they should be an "or", as they are in conflict with each other.--Kevmin § 21:15, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
- The fisher is not part of this scenario AT ALL, but is not even a cat. The fishing cat and the leopard cat are members of the same genus, hence had a common ancestor. Estimation of genetic divergence time from this last common ancestor was performed by two different author teams and derived from two different sets of genetic material + analysis. The 1st estimate for this divergence time of 4.31–1.74 million years ago (mya) was based on mitochondrial gene segments, and the 2nd of 4.25–0.02 mya on SNP genotyping. – BhagyaMani (talk) 01:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- The snark is NOT appropriate, we're both aware the taxa in question here. Are you saying that the estimates are for the full genus then its also including the flat face cat and I get that two divergence dates are present, but it doesn't change that the wording "between 4.31 to 1.74 million years ago and 4.25 to 0.02 million years ago" is fallacious. The two dating results are mildly contradictory so saying "and" between them is not correct unless we are explicit about the genes involved, which the article does not do at this point. The clarification of mitochondrial and SNP genotyping is needed. I also feel that alt1 will run afowl of being to specialized for a broad audience as its currently worded.
- There are also close paraphrase issues in the distribution and Behavior sections that should be dealt with. Full sections of sentences are pulled directly from the source material with no attempt at reqording.--Kevmin § 16:47, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: @Wolverine XI: What would you both think about this hook:ALT3 "... that the fishing cat is threatened by the destruction of wetlands in Southeast Asia?"
.. in Southeast Asia
is erroneous, because destruction -- and conversion -- of wetlands is a threat EVERYWHERE in fishing cat range. – BhagyaMani (talk) 17:48, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- And how about amending ALT1 to ALT4 "... that the fishing cat diverged from the genus Prionailurus at least 20,000 years ago?" ? – BhagyaMani (talk) 14:43, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: @Wolverine XI: What would you both think about this hook:ALT3 "... that the fishing cat is threatened by the destruction of wetlands in Southeast Asia?"
The close paraphrasing is dealt with, and ALT3 ALT4 hooks are sourced and more hooky for general audiences. GA is new enough and article is very well cited to neutral sourcing. For hook Alt4 @BhagyaMani: we could go with "... that the fishing cat diverged from its sister species at least 20,000 years ago?"--Kevmin § 16:47, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think using Prionailurus is more appropriate, as the words 'sister species' are not in the text. And I once learned that words in DYK phrasing needs to be in text. I also suggest to discard ALT1 with the details and source, the more so as this source is not the same as referenced in text. – BhagyaMani (talk) 17:42, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thats an easy fix, add the words "sister species" into the molecular dating section of the article, the term is uncontroversial. I agree that ALT1 should be discarded.--Kevmin §
- Since Wolverine XI proposed ALT1, shouldn't we wait with discarding this for them to comment and agree ? Though I proposed this to them initially, before I added ALT2. – BhagyaMani (talk) 19:42, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't receive those pings, because I had changed my username (quite surprised you guys didn't notice). Rest assured, nevertheless, that I should continue using this username throughout my tenure. So I've been keeping an eye on this DYK but recently I've been dealing with the worst kind of stress you can ever imagine, so I advise you all to choose something appropriate for this DYK without my involvement. I need some much needed time to heal 😞. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 04:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevmin and BhagyaMani: Better? Green flag, yellow flag or red flag? Just let me know. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 20:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't receive those pings, because I had changed my username (quite surprised you guys didn't notice). Rest assured, nevertheless, that I should continue using this username throughout my tenure. So I've been keeping an eye on this DYK but recently I've been dealing with the worst kind of stress you can ever imagine, so I advise you all to choose something appropriate for this DYK without my involvement. I need some much needed time to heal 😞. Wolverine X-eye (talk to me) 04:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)
- Alt2 approved, with AGF on paywalled sourcing. no article or policy issues identified now and article appears stable. ook cited and sourced to references 11 and 44 respectively for first and second sections. Looks good to go.--Kevmin § 01:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Kevmin: Not trying to bikeshed here, but wasn't the Alt2 part about "strongly associated with wetlands" found to be a component of the original concern over copyvio? The phrase "Fishing cats are strongly associated with wetlands" is present verbatim in the IUCN report. I was also thinking that "and preys foremost on fish" reads a little weird and might be replaced with something like "and has a diet which is about 75% fish" (substantiated by paragraph 2 of 'Behaviour and ecology') or "preys mostly on fish". Your guys' call since this has already been approved. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 06:19, 31 October 2024 (UTC)
Johnny Fripp
[edit]- ... that Johnny Fripp was "a bundle of football-toting dynamite"?
- Source: quote from Ottawa Citizen
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1939 Liechtenstein general election
- Comment: QPQ to be done within 24 hours.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:21, 24 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hi BeanieFan11, review follows: article promoted to GA on 17 October and (just!) nominated within 7 days; article is well written and sources look to be reliable; I didn't pick up on any concerns over paraphrasing (note that the Earwig score is thrown off by proper nouns and attributed quotes); hook fact is simple and effective and checks out to source cited; QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 21:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Rich Romer
[edit]- ... that three-time Pizza Hut All-American Rich Romer later worked as an engineer?
- ALT1: ... that NFL player Rich Romer was a three-time Pizza Hut All-American? Source: Pizza Hut
- Reviewed:
~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:24, 18 October 2024 (UTC).
- Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
- Great work on the article! Both hooks are interesting and verified as being sourced in the article. ALT0 relies on this source to say he worked as an engineer. According to the About Us page for the East Greenbush Education Foundation, "The East Greenbush Education Foundation, Inc. is an audited 501(c)(3) non-profit organization whose sole purpose is to raise funds to support student achievement. Founded in 1985 and located in East Greenbush, NY, the Foundation is governed by a volunteer Board of Directors." I think this is a marginally reliable source. If there are concerns that this source is insufficiently reliable, I recommend using ALT1 instead. Cunard (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Tyromancy
[edit]- ... that tyromancy draws on numerology, dream interpretation and antique spell manuals to tell fortunes using cheese?
- Source: Eater: "There wasn’t any sort of central repository of tyromancy information; I had to go back into antique spell manuals, dream interpretation book transcripts, and more."
Jonathan Deamer (talk) 09:33, 18 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new enough, long enough, sourced well enough with inline sources, found no copyvios. Hook is sourced and appropriate. Rlendog (talk) 23:56, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Waltiea Rolle
[edit]... that Bahamian basketball player Waltiea Rolle moved to the United States at the age of 13 after being discovered by a talent scout while walking home from school?
- ALT1:
... that after being discovered by a talent scout while walking home from school, Bahamian basketball player Waltiea Rolle moved to the United States at the age of 13?Source: https://www.tribune242.com/news/2014/apr/09/waltiea-will-be-first-bahamian-to-play-in-wnba/ - ALT2:
... that Waltiea Rolle was the first Bahamian to play in the WNBA?Source: https://www.tribune242.com/news/2017/sep/25/waltiea-rolle-joins-turkish-womens-basketball/?news - ALT3: ... that Bahamian basketball player Waltiea Rolle moved to the United States at the age of 13 after being discovered by Olympic track and field medalist Frank Rutherford while walking home from school?
- ALT4:
... that Bahamian basketball player Waltiea Rolle moved to the United States at the age of 13 after being discovered by Olympic medalist Frank Rutherford while walking home from school??
- Reviewed:
~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 03:23, 18 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Would it be quirkier to replace "talent scout" for Rutherford with "Olympic track and field medalist" i.e. different sport, cachet of Olympics?[11] For ALT2, this is a bit better source that she became the first instead of relying on one anticipating that she "will" be be the first. —Bagumba (talk) 18:26, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- Which of the alts should I revise? Do I just edit them directly or do I add an ALT3? Thanks, ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:40, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm OK with the ALT0 format, which I assume was also your preferred one? Typically, in the spirit of WP:TALK#REPLIED, it's best to just create a new ALT, to avoid anyone looking at the discussion getting confused.—Bagumba (talk) 18:50, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9: The new ALTs needs to have Rutherford's medal background mentioned and sourced in the WP page as well (WP:DYKHOOK).—Bagumba (talk) 12:45, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ref added to Rutherford. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiOriginal-9: Sorry if it wasn't clear. Everything in the hook must be mentioned in prose and sourced in the bolded link i.e. Rolle's page, not Rutherford's page (though you can improve that too, it's just not required for DYK). The focus is on the bolded target.—Bagumba (talk) 17:58, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ref added to Rutherford. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:34, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT3 seems more interesting as it mentions Rutherford's background being in a different sport. If a backup is somehow needed, ALT2 also checked out.—Bagumba (talk) 05:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
2024 Kansas City metropolitan area rent strike
[edit]- ... that a rent strike in Missouri (pictured) is the first to ever target the United States federal government?
💽 LunaEclipse 💽 ⚧ 【=◈︿◈=】 00:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new and long enough. Article is well-sourced, neutral, and only pings on Earwigs for some long proper titles. Hook is cited, short enough, and interesting. QPQ has been completed. Image is freely licensed, clear at a diminished size, and used in the article. Morgan695 (talk) 15:43, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
Checheyigen
[edit]- ... that Checheyigen's political acumen ensured that her family became one of the most powerful in the Mongol Empire?
- Source: Broadbridge 2018, pp. 240–241
~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC).
- Hook fact checks out and is cited in-article. Article is eligible and in good shape all around, and I can see no evidence of copyvio. QPQ also checks out. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 21:26, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Zooming in on the Andromeda Galaxy
[edit]- ... that more than one hundred million stars are visible in Zooming in on the Andromeda Galaxy (pictured)?
- Source: Algar, Jim (2015-01-26). "Hubble Space Telescope Captures Full Glory of Andromeda Galaxy". Tech Times. Retrieved 2024-10-18., among others
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:20, 20 October 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:00, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. Approving. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:24, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
Panhandle Gap
[edit]- ... that the day hike to Panhandle Gap (pictured) is very popular, being over 10 miles with 3,000 feet elevation gain?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tommy Wood (International Brigades)
- Comment: Don't bother to run this without a picture
(t · c) buidhe 04:49, 19 October 2024 (UTC).
- Beautiful photos here! It is new enough, long enough, the QPQ is good, the article is well-written and reliably sourced, and the photo is clear and attractive at this size. But I don't think there's anything unusual or interesting about this fact—that a hike is popular, long, and elevated is not that remarkable. I also tagged an issue with "Summerland" being referred to without introduction. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 07:37, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- If you've ever been to a national park, the crowds disappear within a few miles of the trailhead. Most people are not willing to hike 10+ miles (t · c) buidhe 14:12, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t think the remarkableness of this fact is apparent to people who don’t hike national parks. Can you propose some alternates?꧁Zanahary꧂ 16:58, 19 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1... although rated "possibly the best day hike" in Mount Rainier National Park, you cannot see Rainier from Panhandle Gap (pictured)? (t · c) buidhe 23:41, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! ꧁Zanahary꧂ 00:48, 21 October 2024 (UTC)