Overall: Covered for newness, length, sourcing, neutrality, is plagiarism-free, and the hook is cited and interesting. QPQ done. Good to go on this one! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 18:03, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
What's a "global basketball tournament 1st team all-tournament honoree"? theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Goodman has participated in three FIBA sanctioned tournaments. The first was just a regional competition for countries in Oceania. The second was a tournament for countries in Asia (and/including Oceania). The third was for countries around the world. I use the term global to mean a tournament open to worldwide/global contestants. Such tournaments select honorary teams to recognize the best performers in the tournament. These teams are called all-tournament teams and the players chosen are honorees. Sometimes the tournament will select a best five (the first team) and a next best five (the second team).-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
This has likely not been promoted because the "global ... honoree" bit is pretty indecipherable. TonyTheTiger, would it be possible for you to compose a new hook? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
Haven't checked the article, but the above wording should address the ambiguity given the context provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:35, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
@TonyTheTiger: Since the nomination is already two months old (meaning DYKTIMEOUT could apply to this nomination) and there have been concerns about "obscure US sports terminology" on DYK, maybe you can reword ALT1 slightly to make it clear what "all-tournament honoree" means? I can imagine that reviewers, and maybe readers, might have a hard time understanding what "all-tournament" means, so a more generalist wording might be in order here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:58, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
The article itself is approved, just not the hook. ALT2 is not suitable as it includes a phrase in parentheses, which is discouraged per WP:DYK200. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:54, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Frankly, that doesn't really appear to address the interest concerns ("all-tournament"? "top 5 team honoree"?) Maybe another editor can suggest a workshopped wording. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Normally I'd think it was okay, but given how close Australia and New Zealand are (both geographically and historically), it seems less interesting than it normally would. Maybe AirshipJungleman29 or Sims2aholic8 could chime in? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:14, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I get your point, but also from Canberra to New Plymouth it's about 1,400 miles (2,250km), so it's not exactly "close". It's not exactly the same as the span of the United States or Europe but it's comparable, and I think living that far away from home as a teenager is fairly impressive. I'm happy to defer here though if there is strong feeling elsewhere that this fact is not interesting enough. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 13:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I suppose ALT6 or ALT7 are safer options. I don't think ALT5 really solves the issue: normally ALT4 by itself would have been fine, it's just that Australia and New Zealand are so close culturally and politically that it doesn't seem as surprising. It's like saying an American spent some time in Canada. If it had been instead, for example, Brazil to the US or vice-versa, maybe. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Having grown up in Buffalo, New York, I don't really buy the America-Canada comparison. This is more like a teenager who grew up in Puerto Rico and had to go back and forth to train his skills in Miami at age 15. However, ALT7 makes a similar point to many of the rejected alts (up to ALT3) above.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Covered for newness, length, sourcing, neutrality, is plagiarism-free, and the hook is cited and interesting. QPQ done. Good to go on this one! Sims2aholic8 (talk) 18:03, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
This has likely not been promoted because the "global ... honoree" bit is pretty indecipherable. TonyTheTiger, would it be possible for you to compose a new hook? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
