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30 January 2025

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Christianity

Bill Blocker

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Notability; Cant see anything either in the article or online to suggest he passes WP:GNG TheLongTone (talk) 14:05, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Radio, Christianity, Connecticut, Illinois, and Texas. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:51, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's Complicated, Read Below -- (how's that for wishy-washy! sorry closing Admin!) The entire article's pass/fail to me is based on WP:PROF#C6: "The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society." -- without this, I don't see anything in WP:PROF or WP:GNG or anything else to save the article. So we come to the (actually quite rare you'd be surprised) position of determining what "major" means about colleges etc. -- at the height of the seminary it had 1,800 students, which I think is on the KEEP side of what "major" would generally mean. But I looked at the negative side: "does the institution have 1,000 students today?" not close: 200-300. Does the institution have consisent and significant major press coverage about it? [1] Christianity Today 2022 article would be one good point for it, but I'd think that a "major" university would have at least one press article per year about it that I could defend as "significant" but except for some bit stories about the success (and failure) of their basketball teams, I can't find anything. So without setting a precedent about any College presidents of even a smidgen of greater notability, I will !vote Delete -- Michael Scott Asato Cuthbert (talk) 09:41, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. C6 is reserved for major research universities; tiny Bible colleges that only offer associates and bachelor's are very far from that standard. This person is not an academic and so doesn't qualify for any other NPROF criteria. JoelleJay (talk) 21:49, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to College of Biblical Studies, where he serves as president and is mentioned in the target article multiple times. Subject fails GNG and NPROF. Frank Anchor 23:33, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete or redirect. I don't think this school is up to the level of #C6. So, as for high school principals (who often lead larger institutions and also don't qualify for #C6) we need to go by WP:GNG instead, but we have no evidence of notability that way. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:04, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Isaiah Macwealth

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Regurgitated press releases WP:NEWSORGNIGERIA. Fails WP:GNG. Gheus (talk) 18:25, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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WNGN-LD

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Non-notable LPTV which may well be silent. Only sources are RabbitEars and the FCC. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 04:26, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of television stations in New York (state)#LPTV stations: as the creator of this article all the way back in 2006, I can assure you this is little more than a remnant article of the far lower, non-GNG-based inclusion standards of the era. Maybe there's something out there that could instead merit a mention somehow at WNGN (FM) (the co-owned radio station), but a history of mostly national services (or more recently, airing nothing but a random .4 carriage of the radio side) does not exactly suggest significant coverage. (What's left of Google's newspaper archive does have two articles in The Daily Gazette mentioning this station, which is more than some other LPTVs, but I don't think they're enough — even if the first article mentions the then-existence of local programming without elaboration.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 05:26, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

OnFaith

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Website that does not claim or show any independent notability or coverage. Website currently does not load. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 01:47, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Companies, Websites, and Texas. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:13, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The WaPo, CNA and Austin American-Statesman coverage would all generally qualify as WP:SIGCOV in WP:SIRS, and NCORP does not have a WP:SUSTAINED requirement (unlike WP:NEVENTS or WP:NPRODUCT). However, all of these sources were published in a blitz of coverage around OnFaith's launch and I don't see any continuing coverage. As a flash in the pan company without any apparent lasting coverage beyond its launch, I'd lean delete, but I think a letter-of-the-law application of NCORP would allow a keep !vote. Dclemens1971 (talk) 07:07, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete. This seems like a start up that got a little bit of funding but never really got going, and I suspect part of the reason it got a blitz of media coverage is that the idea of tech products centred around religion is still just a bit of a novelty to most people. I think Dclemens1971 is probably right that the coverage might strictly speaking be enough to pass WP:NCORP, but so much of it is focused on the idea rather than on the company that I'm not sure it really passes the spirit of NCORP. For instance, I can't find a single source covering the fact that the company rebranded or the fact that it shut down, or any sources about its actual operations or userbase. MCE89 (talk) 10:43, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

D.B.T. David

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All I could find of him online was passing mentions, and few of the sources cited appear to actually mention him. Draftified once, and moved back with the only changes made being removal of some references. Wikishovel (talk) 20:14, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Sir, The source for this article is from a Biographical booklet titled, "Rev. D.B.T. David: Pastor par excellence" printed by the family after his death, for local readership in Chennai, Nov 2001. The articles of Rev. David had appeared in Tamil newspapers/magazines of the print media era. Church souvenirs contain writings of others about him in Tamil, which preceded times of internet usage and digital formatting. The tribute of Bishop cited is in the YouTube video (in Tamil). There is another reference of his council membership in United Theological College. After Facebook came, some parishioners have commented positively about Rev. David, at different times in the past which are laborious to trace now. He ministered to a neglected community to whom no media or researcher or social worker or church agency engaged with as Rev. David. Therefore, his ministry is considered first of its kind. Clergymen serve the church and the public too without fanfare or promoting themselves. They shun publicity. Any good deed done for publicity will only be self-defeating. Therefore, this article about a social and spiritual transformational work deserves to be at least in a draft format or "sources to be verified" category, for the sake of future researchers. Thank you for your time. (User: Wordofguidance.) Wordofguidance (talk) 06:46, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Nothing for notability. Sourcing used in the article is almost entirely red per Cite Highlighter, so non-RS. I can't find anything about this person... The long note above mentions a book published by the family; I'd consider that a primary source and one isn't enough anyway. Non-notable religious person. Oaktree b (talk) 00:29, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - even assuming everything is true, there are zero independent, reliable sources in the article or on this page. I'm sorry. Bearian (talk) 17:23, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Natività della Vergine, Thiene

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No sources to establish notability per: WP:N. See talk page for more info. Sheriff U3 | Talk | Con 07:13, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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A before search brought up possible Italian scholarly articles on this church. No comment on notability yet though. SportingFlyer T·C 21:32, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 10:16, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Merge. I looked into both Google news and books. All of the references focus on either the castle that is nearby, or to the feast/commemoration of the Nativity of the Virgin. This is not an independent parish, but rather a chapel of the castle and an oratory, which is a unique type of house of worship for laypersons; I've visited a few in Italy and elsewhere. FWIW, I'm Episcopalian. Bearian (talk) 02:33, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Surviving 15th-century buildings of any kind are clearly notable. Most countries would heritage list them and they'd automatically pass WP:GEOFEAT. Sadly, Italy isn't very good at listing buildings, but the principle still stands. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:24, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Necrothesp. Djflem (talk) 20:18, 31 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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