User talk:MrOllie

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trailer (vehicle) sub-category tagged as "product placement"

Greetings, I'm still fairly knew to the whole wiki editor role and was curious what tipped off my writing as "product placement". Are there any changes I can make to the piece I wrote to make it be within compliance? Thank you for your time

Cornbredphilospher (talk) 19:29, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Cornbredphilospher (talk) 19:28, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Cornbredphilospher (talk) 19:27, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

It was a completely unsourced section with a adverty image. I suggest you don't add it at all - we do not need a list of various types of things that might be found on top of a trailer. Every other trailer type of that sort on the page is anchored by a link to another Wikipedia article. MrOllie (talk) 20:14, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Ugh.... and now I'm back to square one. I was told by user 331dot to post it in the trailer section as a subcategory. My original article has taken down for not having enough high quality sources. But no such source exists. There are PLENTY of corporations and other for profit companies that have articles or blog posts detailing what a cable reel trailer is... but nothing from the academia world. I feel stuck and frustrated. That's not your problem, just venting. Cornbredphilospher (talk) 20:27, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

If no source exists, per WP:V policy requires that we leave it out, I'm afraid. MrOllie (talk) 20:28, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

The WP:V policy page was helpful. Thank you. Cornbredphilospher (talk) 20:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Mariewan

So back in October/November 2024, you had some dealings with this user (link to their talk page), who was prolifically adding/replacing references, overlinking, and trying to copyedit articles (with various levels of success). I'm not sure if you ever knew what happened next because you'd never commented on it, but I've been curious about your opinion for a while: after I noticed this user, I ended up indefblocking them in a remarkably poorly communicated and executed way during my admin recall discussion (the first ever), leading me to lose my adminship in a subsequent reconfirmation RFA. The above links are rather long; the TL;DR version is this Signpost story and my dedicated user subpage. As noted on Mariewan's talk page, I swiftly undid my block on them but they haven't edited since. I just wonder what your thoughts are on all this. I would've asked you privately but you don't have email enabled. As part of the fallout of Mariewan's block, I did a watchlist purge and therefore don't find/fix anywhere near as much disruptive editing as I used to, which has been a good thing for me. Graham87 (talk) 12:29, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

I hadn't seen any of that before - I don't follow RFA or the signpost. It is very unfortunate that all of that happened. My initial read is that it's an example of a long standing problem on Wikipedia, which is that it is difficult to get a lot of folks to sit still long enough to understand that edits that look superficially like good ones can actually be bad ones. MrOllie (talk) 13:48, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Sourcing

Why I need source for known info for website such as language and website content I mean how do i even get sources for this info XJUBA (talk) 00:15, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

You need them because that is how Wikipedia is written - sources are required by core policies here. See WP:V, WP:NOR, and WP:RS for a start. If you can't find sources for it, you should not add it to Wikipedia. - MrOllie (talk) 00:22, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

You did not understand my question why you need source for very obvious info like the website language is English or the website type is forums or so i don't get it XJUBA (talk) 01:37, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Click on the links in my message, your answers lie therein. MrOllie (talk) 01:46, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Unreasonable responses to suggestion for inclusion

Dear MrOllie

I am following due protocol and requesting that you reconsider the arguments made on the Talk:Circumcision page. Your responses to my request thus far have been dismissive to say the least. I do not believe that my suggestion was unreasonable, irrelevant or extreme and so to respond in the way you have seems unwarranted. I do not see why this cannot be addressed in a reasonable way.

Sincerely

Mangi89

Mangi89 (talk) 15:29, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Coming on to my user talk page to say you don't like my comments is not 'due protocol'. Keep discussion on the article talk page where it belongs. MrOllie (talk) 16:54, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

My apologies - I was under the impression that directly reasoning with you as the administrator was the correct course of action. I will restrict my communications to the Talk:Circumcision page then. Mangi89 (talk) 17:52, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Just for future reference the Dispute resolution page suggests addressing administrators directly through their talk pages, under the section titled 'Resolving content disputes'... Mangi89 (talk) 18:26, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

You have clearly misunderstood dispute resolution, if you thought that going onto someone's talk page and calling them 'unreasonable' was going to somehow resolve a dispute. MrOllie (talk) 18:28, 1 February 2025 (UTC)