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SiGMA Group

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This is a promotional article about a non-notable affiliate marketing company. Most of the references are press releases from the company. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 10:58, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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List of Pokémon Trading Card Game sets

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A very large and overly detailed list that fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Unlike something like Hearthstone expansions, which has coverage for the subject of expansions in the game as a whole, the subject of TCG sets does not have any SIGCOV I could locate. WP:NLIST requires notability as a group for the list to be considered "notable", and while a few individual sets have some standalone hits, the topic of sets as a whole does not WP:INHERIT notability from these standalone sets. The vast bulk of these sets yield little to no actual significant coverage, and nothing in the article is really worth preserving, as the bulk of content here either hails from unreliable sources or WP:PRIMARY sources.

I will also note that this topic does not inherit notability from the concept of Pokémon Trading Card Game. There has been significant discussion of the card game as a whole, but very little on the topic of *sets* specifically. As it stands, the subject is a failure of both INDISCRIMINATE and of SIGCOV, among other things. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 18:20, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep It's an exhaustive list of elements in a clearly notable fictional franchise that do not appear to be individually notable, so meets WP:CSC point 2. It's possible to break this down further into lists by generations and have this article be a list of lists. I see no reason this couldn't be cleaned up to look something like List of Magic: The Gathering sets, which is relatively visually appealing look at an arguably marginally more notable CCG franchise. Jclemens (talk) 06:26, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The CSC is a guideline for what common types of list exist; just because a list of a similar type already exists does not mean other lists of similar types are (Wikipedia:OTHERSTUFF). CSC does not override notability criteria, which is outlined at Wikipedia:LISTN: "Notability of lists (whether titled as "List of Xs" or "Xs") is based on the group. One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources, per the above guidelines; and other guidelines on appropriate stand-alone lists." Given nothing at Wikipedia:SALAT applies to this list, and I have already discussed how there is a strong lack of SIGCOV, there is still no indication this list meets LISTN.

I will also note your linked list suffers from identical problems to this one (A reliance on PRIMARY sources and a lack of demonstrated SIGCOV), which does not address several points I made in my nom, so it cannot even be used as a positive example of a list like this. It's why I linked Hearthstone in my nom, since that AfD illustrated actual SIGCOV for the topic, which justified a standalone split. There is nothing like that here, from what I have found. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 07:09, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree. You're making two arguments (this is a separate topic from the Pokemon TCG, this topic is not per se discussed by RS'es) that are both, in my opinion, overstating consensus for their conclusions ("reaching") and at odds with the other lists we actually keep. We'll see what others think. Jclemens (talk) 05:27, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I agree with Pokelego999 points in letting this stay, along with the need for a bit more polishing and formatting(e.g. more illustrations of the card icons etc. ), it can be a potentially good complementary article to the more general Pokémon Trading Card Game main article about the CCG. As it does feature significant milestones of the CCG History Villkomoses (talk) 14:11, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I am working on a better version of this article and plan on making incremental improvements. Mark999 (talk) 14:42, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per above. As it is one of the TCGs and one of the most relevant franchises in the world, it is natural for WP:FORK to emerge with more specific themes. Svartner (talk) 05:24, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above and Stubify. If possible. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 10:35, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tommy Angelo (Mafia)

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A fictional character with no proven encyclopedical notability. Possible alternatives are redirect to Mafia (video game) or draftify. FromCzech (talk) 06:17, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to the game. There is some coverage of casting/recasting this role, but it does not seem very reliable/in-depth. And this is just a stub (substub, even). Neither the content nor sources cited make a good case for this needing to be a stand-alone article. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:56, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Anshu Bisht

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Fails GNG. Previously deleted as WP:G7 and then recreated almost word-by-word by a paid editor. Badbluebus (talk) 22:26, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - A lot of mentions, self-written blog posts, and unreliable sources. Nothing in-depth about the subject that is reliable. Note that most of the links on the page are 404s so my search was mainly what could be found through Google News. Would object to any draftification since it was previously done and the paid editor moved it right back to mainspace. --CNMall41 (talk) 00:47, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As per CNMall41 (talk). Looks like paid without notability. Rahmatula786 (talk) 11:51, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The India Today and Business Standard sources failed verification for me, and the Business Today article appears to be a passing mention. WeyerStudentOfAgrippa (talk) 15:12, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Badbluebus::, I have removed up the unreliable sources to ensure notability and Wikipedia guidelines.

Delete. Poor to unreliable sources on the page and reads more like promotion. Fails WP:NBIO. I cannot find subject's work as content creator that has made any significant impact and achievement to be worthy of notice and noteworthy. RangersRus (talk) 01:51, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Anyone could meet Prime Minister Modi. Anyone could be a streamer. But not anyone could have a Wikipedia page. Also, per WeyerStudentOfAgrippa, the sources are not good enough to warrant a Wikipedia article. Yoshiman6464 ^♫🥚 13:28, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ProGamer G500

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:PROMO. Speaker systems typically do not get their own Wikipedia page, I don't see the need to have a Wikipedia page for a typical speaker system. ロドリゲス恭子 (talk) 18:44, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete There could be speaker systems that pass WP:N, but this shows no sign of being one. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:09, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lawgivers

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Non-notable series with a page that currently has no secondary sources. The page confuses WP:USERG for reliable reception. A WP:BEFORE yields no review coverage: only a pre-release preview article about Lawgivers 2 on Pocket Gamer [1] and some listicles about Lawgivers 2 on Valnet style sites like TheGamer and GameRant: [2][3][4]. Nothing wrong with listicles but it's not sufficiently in-depth coverage to support the essential information conveyed in the article. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 06:31, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per nom. This is not the subject of WP:SIGCOV by reliable sources. JFHJr (㊟) 17:05, 7 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ground Branch (video game)

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Did a WP:BEFORE, but I don't feel like the sources from RPS and PCGamesN that only has minor details is enough to pass WP:GNG. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 11:01, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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- Delete per nom. Not much established notability. MimirIsSmart (talk) 01:32, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yusuke Nakano

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Procedural nomination per WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 February 23 § Yusuke Nakano, which concluded that the page was not appropriate as a redirect. The page had been BLARd since 2015 because of a dearth of reliable sources, tagged for notability since 2009. One opinion at the RfD was that it was better to have this as a stub if the subject was notable. Jay 💬 15:03, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak Delete: I found this IGN JP article (This has 3 paragraph of coverage of the guy) and that's it actually. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 15:14, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weak Delete: I got to this page because his homonym is one of the artists behind Paramodel. I thought I'd see if I could improve it, but agrees with Miminity that there's very very little, and I don't think it there's enough material even for a stub. E mln e (talk) 23:29, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was soft delete‎. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. ✗plicit 12:18, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Łukasz Piskorz

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A developer of two games. And a stub that is not more useful than a category Video games developed by Łukasz Piskorz. IgelRM (talk) 12:07, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Virtual Programming (company)

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Appears to fail WP:NCORP IgelRM (talk) 19:41, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per nom,

MimirIsSmart (talk) 01:30, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MagiHaro

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Just a game listing. Clubette (month) 05:53, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Is this game on List of Konami games? IgelRM (talk) 07:12, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ Redirect to List of Konami games. No content, just a list fueled entirely by primary sources. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 07:13, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect to List of Konami games for the same reason as @HopalongCasualty suggested. MimirIsSmart (talk) 02:05, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I'm unsure if this sources could count for GNG but I'll just drop it here
4Gamer.net - here, here, Here, Here, Here
Famitsu - here, here, Here
Natalie - Here, Here

Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 06:15, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately these sources are in Japanese, which I can't read, so I can't verify them. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 11:41, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

4gamer - 1st and 2nd one is news about Magical Halloween: Trick or Treat , 3rd is about a collab with mobile game but has a decent coverage (which I'm unsure of if it counts). 4th is announcement for the Magical Halloween 7. The 5th one is I know which is super detail coverage for the Magical Halloween 2 mobile app.

Famitsu - 1st and 2nd one is another Trick of Treat one. 3rd one is about Magical Halloween 7 mobile app.

Natalie - 1st News about Magical Halloween Miracle Quartet soundtrack, 2nd one is Magical Halloween 4's collaboration with Daimaou Kosaka

This is just a summary. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 15:04, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List of Konami games – As suggested above. Svartner (talk) 10:15, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ilyas El Maliki

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Fails GNG and WP:PERP. Ignoring the usual online influencer unreliable sources like WP:DEXERTO and WP:SPORTSKEEDA, this guy is only notable for having been sued for a few minor charges and serving two months in prison [5]. The other sources that are not about this lawsuit are mostly routine announcements and do not talk about him in any significant depth. This page was previously created by blocked sock User:IMDB12, deleted per WP:A7 on January 1, and was now recreated by a different new COI account. Badbluebus (talk) 03:00, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The subject meets WP:GNG with multiple independent sources covering his career beyond any legal issues. The article cites Hespress, Yabiladi, Morocco World News, and Kings League, which are all independent, reliable sources discussing his achievements in streaming, sports, and digital media. Dismissing Dexerto does not negate the fact that there is substantial non-routine coverage of his career.

The claim that this is a WP:PERP case is misleading. WP:PERP applies when a person is only known for a legal issue, which is not the case here. His coverage in independent media predates and goes beyond any legal matter. The sources clearly establish his streaming success, leadership in the Kings World Cup, and industry recognition, including being named Moroccan Influencer of the Year.

As for the claim that this article was recreated by the same blocked user, there is no actual evidence to support this—no IP check, no behavioral analysis, nothing. An accusation without proof should not be a basis for deletion. If there are concerns about sockpuppetry, they should be handled separately through proper channels, not used as an argument in AfD.

This is a well-sourced article about a notable subject, and per WP:GNG, it should be kept. Datamanager3000 (talk) 03:51, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I meant to add this at the start of my previous comment but forgot. Just clarifying my stance. Datamanager3000 (talk) 05:34, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per the nominator. I checked all of the sources in the article and it is extremely weak. There is no indication that most of these are even reliable sources, and in my opinion, using unvetted sources for a WP:BLP (unless the source is obviously reliable) is a very, very bad idea and should not be able to help notability at all. λ NegativeMP1 04:24, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I dont know where you're from but in Morocco these are all very reliable sources apart from LGAMINGMA. Datamanager3000 (talk) 04:28, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But do they meet our criteria for a reliable source? No, I don't think they do, since sites like LGaming.ma don't have any editorial policy or about us page, and therefore no proper credentials. Furthermore, are those sites listed on WP:RSP or WP:VG/S? No, they aren't. λ NegativeMP1 04:34, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am defending the retention of the article about Ilyas El Maliki because of the independent sources cited, such as Hespress, Yabiladi, and Morocco World News, which highlight his success in streaming, sports, and digital media. This success is not only tied to legal issues but is supported by significant media coverage of his career and achievements, including his participation in the Kings World Cup. Additionally, he was named Moroccan Influencer of the Year, which underscores his prominence. Furthermore, the claim that the article was recreated by the same blocked user is unfounded and lacks evidence. Based on these facts, I believe the article should be kept according to the guidelines of the encyclopedia. Hkatib (talk) 04:45, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to see what guidelines you're talking about because notability can only be demonstrated by reliable, secondary sources. None of the sources in the article can contribute to notability. See WP:GNG. λ NegativeMP1 05:00, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The argument that “none of the sources in the article contribute to notability” is not accurate. Hespress, Yabiladi, and Morocco World News are among the most widely recognized and referenced media outlets in Morocco. These are established, independent news sources that cover a range of topics, including politics, sports, and entertainment. Just because they are not listed on WP:RSP does not mean they are unreliable—WP:RSP is not an exhaustive list of every reliable source.

The subject's notability is clearly demonstrated by substantial independent coverage in multiple sources, including his rise in streaming, his role in the Kings World Cup, and his recognition as Moroccan Influencer of the Year. These are not routine announcements but sustained coverage across different aspects of his career.

Additionally, dismissing a source simply because it is not listed on WP:RSP is not how Wikipedia determines reliability. If there is a specific policy-based reason why Hespress or Morocco World News should be considered unreliable, that should be demonstrated with evidence. Otherwise, they should be evaluated on their actual editorial practices and reputation within their region, rather than being judged against a list that is primarily Western-focused. Datamanager3000 (talk) 05:07, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Hespress, Yabiladi, and Morocco World News are among the most widely recognized and referenced media outlets in Morocco." And Fox News is among the most widely recognized and referenced news outlets in the United States. Low and behold, we consider it mostly unreliable per WP:RSP. And I never said that a source HAS to be on RSP or VG/S, but it is a good idea. Especially for BLPs, where it is recommended to only use the strongest sourcing available and sources that are low-quality in any fashion should be disregarded. Either way though, you haven't proven how any of the sources are reliable or useful at all. I gave my evidence and Grayfell provided his input as well. Please prove in your own words how they are reliable sources by our standards. λ NegativeMP1 06:57, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - The Morocco World News source uses very strange and simple English. I cannot find anything on that page about its editing standards or fact-checking/corrections or similar. How does this outlet meet WP:RS? Same question about LGAMING.MA.

Hespress is slightly better, but again, who are its editors? Le Matin (Morocco) seems to be a legit newspaper, but it's a passing mention, at best.

The Yabiladi source doesn't appear to mention Ilyas El Maliki, making it useless for notability even if it were reliable. Grayfell (talk) 06:16, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like Yabiladi.com uses machine translation to plagiarize articles from other outlets. For example this article Euractiv.com is beat-for-beat copied by Yabiladi.com's version, but significantly worse in just about every way. The site has no indication of editorial oversight or fact checking. It likely shouldn't be cited on Wikipedia at all. Grayfell (talk) 20:39, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

this source from a outlet called Le 360 is a single sentence and a photo followed by a bunch of social media posts. It's not useful for notability. Grayfell (talk) 00:51, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep

Ilyas El Maliki is a well-known and influential figure in the fields of streaming and digital media. His success goes beyond video games, extending into sports and even fashion. Being named "Moroccan Influencer of the Year" in 2025 is clear evidence of his significance in the media landscape. This achievement has been documented by reputable and independent sources such as Hespress, Yabiladi, and Morocco World News, which cover his success in detail, including his contract with the streaming platform Kick and his participation in the Kings World Cup.

On the other hand, the argument to remove the article due to legal issues or conflicts with other individuals lacks any solid foundation. Indeed, every individual faces challenges throughout their career, but Ilyas has proven through his achievements and his global recognition that he deserves his place in the encyclopedia. Many people follow and interact with him across social media platforms, and he is widely acknowledged as a public figure of prominence.

Keeping the article would be a reasonable step to maintain accurate and factual documentation about a prominent figure who has had a significant impact both locally and internationally. According to the guidelines of the encyclopedia, articles about public figures who have a broad influence and notable achievements should remain in the database. Hkatib (talk) 06:48, 19 February 2025 (UTC)— Hkatib (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]

Notice: The above user is currently a suspected sock-puppet and their argument is based on ideas proven false by both me and Grayfell. Also, there is no mention of sports and fashion in this article. This comment is quite literally just making stuff up. λ NegativeMP1 06:51, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I think the discussion was negatively impacted by the behavior of the creator of the article, but the topic is notable I believe, especially when searching in non-English sources (consider that English is neither a native language nor the primary foreign language in Morocco). I was in fact planning to write an article about him at some point, as he's undoubtedly hands down the most famous Moroccan streamer. None of the explicitly linked sources below mention him just in passing. Some of them are from websites of famous Moroccan newspapers (such as L'Opinion, Alalam and Al Ahdath Al Maghribia), in addition to known non-Moroccan source such Al-Arabiya and The New Arab. I also tried to avoid blog-like sites and purely tabloid news, and keep only international and national, rather than regional sources.

English sources: hespress.com 1, hespress.com 2 (more articles about him on hespress.com), walaw, MWN (more about him on MWN), Assahafa.com

French sources: L'Opinion 1, L'Opinion 2 (more about him on L'Opinion's website), Linformation.ma, le360.ma 1 (link dead), le360.ma 2 (more on le360.ma), lesinfos.ma, médias24.com, lodj.ma 1, lodj.ma 2, h24info.ma 1, h24info.ma 2, h24info.ma 3 (more on h24info.ma), walaw, bladi.net, primesynergy.ma, lenew.ma, footdumaroc, fr.hespress.com

Arabic sources: alaraby.co.uk, almashhad.com, hibapress.com, goud.ma 1, goud.ma 2 (more about him on goud.ma), alkhaleej.ae, various Arabic articles about Ilyas El Malki on hespress.com, ar.le360.ma, alalam.ma, al3omk.com, lesiteinfo.com, ahdath.info, barlamane.com, aljarida24.com, alarabiya.net, rue20.com, febrayer.com, assabah.ma

Spanish source

Dutch source

--Ideophagous (talk) 18:16, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

additional links: araby.co.uk 2, araby.co.uk 3 --Ideophagous (talk) 09:24, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The laundry list of sources above only seem to link to the main page for the various news outlets, not any specific article about this person. I spot checked the first four in the French list, they're of no use. Oaktree b (talk) 17:20, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The links somehow stopped working or I didn't copy them properly. I'm re-posting the first 2 French sources here again (and also correcting them at the original location): 1, 2. French source n°3 links to the search page of "L'Opinion" with the keywords "ilyas el maliki" since I didn't want to spam this page with more sources than necessary. French source n°4 actually works. I would suggest checking the rest before forming a final opinion. Ideophagous (talk) 17:45, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – The additional sources provided by @Ideophagous strengthen the case for notability, particularly in non-English media, which is important given that English is neither a native nor primary foreign language in Morocco. The subject meets WP:GNG as there is significant, independent coverage across multiple reliable sources.

The sources include established Moroccan newspapers such as L'Opinion, le 360 and Medias24, as well as well-known international outlets like The New Arab and Al Araby. These are recognized as reliable sources for covering public figures in the region. The coverage is substantial and not just passing mentions, with multiple reports on his streaming career, legal issues, and involvement in the 2025 Kings World Cup Nations.

It's true that some of links @Ideophagous mentioned in his early message only led to the main page of the listed source, but his new message is better organized with all the links leading to articles about Ilyas El Maliki.

Thus, the breadth of coverage across different languages and media types confirms that the subject meets Wikipedia’s notability standards. The article should be kept. Datamanager3000 (talk) 06:27, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is your third time voting keep on this discussion. And your wording across all of them is repeating the exact same points. It's starting to come off as WP:BLUDGEON-ing the process. See WP:AFDFORMAT: "You can explain your earlier recommendation in response to others but do not repeat a bolded recommendation on a new bulleted line." λ NegativeMP1 06:54, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Spent four months in prison [6] and was acquitted of other charges. Doesn't meet criminal notability, and there is no coverage outside of the trial that would meet notability for a streamer. There doesn't seem to be anything about this person outside of the trial. Oaktree b (talk) 17:22, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Oaktree b There's plenty, not just the prison sentence:
- Most famous streamer in Morocco
- He was arrested and on trial several times, and went to prison
- Wide coverage due to his crucial involvement in Morocco's participation in the 2025 Kings World Cup Nations.
The links above cover all 3 aspects of the topic. My opinion is that this is sufficient for notability. Feel free to check again for yourself. Ideophagous (talk) 17:51, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I'm reorganizing the list of links I posted above, to highlight the aspects supporting notability (in my opinion), and make it easier for other participants to navigate. I just don't think this topic should be dismissed so easily and quickly, and as I mentioned already, I think there are 3 main aspects that make this person notable (last aspect split to two because there are too many sources):

Streaming:
- Named Moroccan Influencer of the Year (en), top viewed streamer (fr)
- Other streaming-related news: 1, 2, 3
Arrest, trial and imprisonment (my understanding is that he went to prison twice, one time for 3 months, and another for 4 months shortened to 2 months):
- English: leaving prison and Kings League, 2, 3
- French: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14
- Arabic: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
- Dutch: 1
Coverage due to the 2025 Kings World Cup Nations:
- English sources: 1, 2, 3
- French: 1, 2, 3, 4
- Arabic: 1, 2
- Spanish: 1
Coverage due to the Kings League in general:
- English sources: 1, 2
- French: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
Mixed coverage focused on Ilyas El Maliki: araby.co.uk, almashhad, le360.ma, alahdath

Ideophagous (talk) 19:27, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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