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Hello, I see a couple of my edits have been reverted as unhelpful, I thought I'd seen many people say stuff like that when replying to requests, sometimes even in the decline itself. So could I get insight on which part of what I wrote is the problem? N1TH Music (talk) 05:03, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
She probably won't be online for another 10-12 hours. I don't see why just because she's my mentor, you, the person who reverted my edits can't be the one to tell me what's wrong. After all you were the one to unblock me in the first place, you aren't some random editor in my mind. N1TH Music (talk) 05:45, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
I do not wish to engage with you. Stick to editing articles, fixing vandalism, that sort of thing; you don't have either the experience yet to act in an advisory fashion to other editors. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇05:52, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
So there haven't been any problems with me editing articles or trying to fix vandalism, just don't give advice to people because I myself am inexperienced? N1TH Music (talk) 06:00, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
No, there have been plenty of issues with your editing, which basically is nearly as bad as before your block. But your "advice" is the most harmful and visible, so that's the part that gets reverted the fastest. The reintroduction of large sections based on either nothing, or maps, or misinterpreted sources, gets overlooked for longer. Enjoy your stay while it lasts, as it probably won't be for much longer. Fram (talk) 07:45, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
@FramThe reintroduction of those things is meant to be temporary before I can get on to rewriting everything properly, if you must, revert them, I won't complain. N1TH Music (talk) 13:15, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
This reminds me of a similar situation involving a user by the name of EthanRossie2000, who kept removing the "More citations needed" template from Ross O'Donovan's article. Even though adding the birthdate may be in good faith, "citation needed" templates that are placed in the article for a reason must not be removed per H:TEMPREMOVE. L337m4n (talk) 00:07, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
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Hello - Geldof has said many different things about where he was when he heard about the "I dont like Mondays" thing. Last year he said he was in LA and heard it on the radio. I added "claims" after reading that the small college station did not have a telex machine. Thought I'd explain a bit. Fishplater (talk) 09:14, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
Then explain more in the article; casting doubt on a source by replacing "said" with "claims" requires support in the article for the doubt. Or it could just say "said" with a source. (This is also what edit summaries can be helpful for.) --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇14:19, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
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Immediate reversion would have been my knee-jerk reaction too, so you just beat me to it. But part of me thinks that maybe it should have been allowed to remain, to make it evident that we really are steering an NPOV course and not just being western imperialists determined belittle Asian perspectives. But it was pretty nasty so I'm certainly not going to put it back. Food for thought, though... 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 16:03, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
Is WhichUserAmI's username and his troll-like vote at the current RfA enough to warrant a check? To be clear, I'm not suggesting that the user is a sock of Athaenara.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:32, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
I kinda think any username like that and troll-like behavior warrants an immediate check, yeah. But, not being magic pixie dust, checkuser often instead shows that miscreants know how to evade it. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇15:39, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, in the "Openness" paragraph, in the caption, there is an end point. It's correct that captions end without a period, as has always been the case on every page. Thank you.
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Simply, the captions must always end without a period. I was saying double check all the image captions on the "Wikipedia" page, because some have the period at the end. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.82.131.106 (talk) 17:03, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
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Hey since you don't want to trust my sources, a quick look on Richard Elfman's Facebook shows a photo including Danny and it was taken in 1972. Jan Munroe also posted a promo photo of the group from 1972 with Danny in it. Danny also said in his most recent podcast appearance that he joined the group 6 months after formation. TitanicFog (talk) 04:28, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
Look, you absolutely MUST provide verifiablereliable sources for everything you put in Wikipedia. I'm not for a second saying you're wrong about what you're surmising, but Wikipedia has real strong policies about what can and cannot be included in articles, and you're not adhering to them. The only reason you haven't been stopped outright is that I've got a massive conflict of interest and hardly anyone else seems to care about the article. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇05:02, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
I also noticed this via the RfA and thought I'd ask about it. Is there an error here? Are they a sock-puppet who you accidentally tagged as a vandal, perhaps? Or did you simply not mean to block them? —Ganesha811 (talk) 00:18, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
I must have been moving too fast and blocked the wrong person, but I couldn't for the life of me tell you who it was supposed to be! I've unblocked and apologized. Thanks for calling it to my attention. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇01:09, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
When jumping the gun turns out to be the right move! Also, I'm mildly flattered that LivelyToad apparently mistook me for an admin ("...after being pressured by at least two administrators"), but not too flattered since they turned out to be a troll. —Ganesha811 (talk) 20:59, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
It does speak kinda loudly to how quickly I put these trivial annoyances out of my mind; without the CU log I'd have no idea whatsoever why I blocked him. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇21:56, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
I'm not too surprised he turned out to be a sock. (Actually, scratch that, I'm not surprised in the slightest.) I just wanted to verify the reason for the block since it didn't make sense. ;) Thanks for double-checking, even though he did turn out to be a troll! Reaper Eternal (talk) 00:49, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
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Hi - I noticed you made a review of a request to unblock of the above user. However, I'm a little unsure of the situation. Just wanted to indicate it appears however, they still have access to draft space. I just declined an article on an SS marching song they had been working on and resubmitted. You declined the unblock on 4 November 2022, the user resumbitted the draft for consideration on 5 December 2022. What confuses me is I can find no record in the block log either via the username or the block ID. Is the user actually blocked? Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 00:37, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
Checkusers aren't supposed to publicly link IPs to accounts. Hey, I'm about to revert the sock's edits; could you restore your own when I'm done? --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇21:28, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
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In the Monty Hall problem, where is your proof that there is an edit war? No one has posted anything disagreeing with my changes, except for user:MrOllie who merely said "previous changes are preferable" and did not respond to my points on the contrary. Did you look at the links I provided? The only reason my changes were undone was because of a typo. We confirmed this in EEng's talk page, so reimplementing my changes without the typo is not engaging in an edit war. If you could please revert your undoing, that would be appreciated. GabeTucker (talk) 10:15, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
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Why didn't you switch to the Russian article? it is also written there that he is 27... And the news says that he died not at 28, but at the 28th year of his life, which means 27 years and a couple of months.
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Regarding Supergabbyshoe, according to ceb.wiki, the account was blocked back in 2014 with this notation: "Vandalism (global sysop action): sockpuppet of LTA 2toy mora/Bertrand101". Any thoughts on whether these accounts should be connected to Bertrand101?--Bbb23 (talk) 20:44, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
Fine, I've tagged them all as suspected socks of Bertrand101. I realize that the four are probably confirmed to each other, but I'm too tired to double-tag, and it's not really all that important anyway. Thanks for your help.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:04, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Is there any info still available about Magnoffiq, whom you CU-blocked on 11 October 2021 (either any stashed CU data, or who else was in the pool)? I see a recently-reactivated user that has some username and contribution similarities to Magnoffiq, trying to see what the situation is. DMacks (talk) 09:59, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
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Hey, JP. Did you see that Srj.cooldude denies using an AI to compose the unblock request you declined? "Everything I wrote was 100% my original and no third person or tools used, it's extremely sad to see entire appeal rejected on mere suspicion of chatbot disregarding the points raised in it." (What points? There were no points.) Also, they complain about you assessing their request too soon (some five-six hours after they posted it!), before it was ready. Yes, really. "I felt it was basic like a formal apology without going into the details and I was already in the process of revising and rewriting it but it got rejected before I could update the 1st appeal with description". It's all a very unusual way of proceeding. All I can say about the use of ChatGPT is, if they're telling the truth (frantically assuming good faith here) that they used nothing like that, then they're one of the world's worst actual human writers and thereby not a good fit for Wikipedia. Bishonen | tålk11:30, 7 May 2023 (UTC).
I'd be curious to see just what it takes for a human to write something that the chatbot detectors think is AI. I've had some cases where I thought it was AI but the detectors disagree; I've not had any marginal ones I thought were human but detectors tagged as AI. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇13:31, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
@SkyWarrior ah yes, thanks. I had just looked at the source and hadn't quite connected the way it generated the destination URL will go to that user talk page from the template page itself. Skynxnex (talk) 14:23, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
Since I've never tried to do this level of template editing on Wikipedia, I decided to try in Template:Emergency-user-slap/sandbox to make it so it only renders those preloaded links if placed on a User or User talk page. I'll move it over to the main template at some point if there are no objections, in case either of you wanted to look. (And with this, I'll depart this talk page about this. Thanks SkyWarrior and Jpgordon.) Skynxnex (talk) 18:53, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
@Skynxnex and Jpgordon: I have a much simpler idea: maybe we could actually create User:Emergency-user-slap and use the user talk page as a sandbox for the template? I'm aware that a sandbox already exists, but we could also redirect that sandbox to the user talk (or vice versa). Of course, if someone with knowledge could "make it not work on its own page", then that's great too. I meant to comment this a couple days ago, but couldn't due to an erroneous global block placed on my IP (since resolved). SkyWarrior01:22, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
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Back in March 2023, you blocked User:Pinespunned as being a sockpuppet of User:Bertrand101, and I believe there could be another sockpuppet, User:Bigbossgab, that has been editing some of the same articles that Pinespunned edited and started two weeks after Pinespuuned was blocked. Here is the Editor Interaction Analyser between the two editors, [3]. I never really know how to deal with sockpuppets and any help you could give me would help out. Aspects (talk) 18:49, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
Hi JP, could you please run a check on the above account? See the claim of socking at the bottom of their Talk page. They've already evaded their block once with an IP who made the same edit to Talk:Adam and Eve as the master, but because of the dearth of substantive edits to any other article or article Talk page, I doubt I'll find any socks on my own.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:45, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
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Well, "Unironically" means not cooking a whole tin can for the thrill of it or the irony of cooking a tin of ready-to-eat condensed milk, but boiling a whole tin (not "tinful") without expecting it to burst if not handled with care. 2A00:1FA0:2E2:8FB4:0:4C:CD27:8101 (talk) 16:14, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
geez. Dunno. I mean, I did some pretty deep diving on the ancient history stuff, and if it's trolling, it's trolling and also writing about legitimate looking ancient history. (Legitimate looking only because I'm completely ignorant regarding sources for Middle Eastern history.) The "Wikipedian and the Vandal" story comes from Signpost in 2019, by the way. The Larpistan stuff? No idea. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇00:45, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, I knew you got a lot further on the sourcing than I did. (Google books would t show me ANY of the text of the sources, which is common for it and showing different amounts of content based on location.) Been a long time since I’ve seen apparently valid mainspace contributions combined with user space trolling (69 jokes get folks indeffed all the time, usually at AIV, after all). Just a completely bizarre case. Courcelles (talk) 16:12, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
One of the sources (Life and Land Use on the Bahrain Islands: The Geoarchaeology of an Ancient Society) was completely readable, which is how I concluded it wasn't utter trollery -- who the heck would research obscure histories of Bahrain for the purpose of trolling? --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇16:27, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
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It's not an uncommon name. This one is historian João Paulo Oliveira e Costa (born 1962). Not, for example, José Oliveira e Costa, former CEO of Banco BPI (died in 2020), or the politician Rui Oliveira Costa (died in 2021). But I can barely see why Rosa should have an article in the first place. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇21:08, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
@Jpgordon Thanks, missed those, the historian seemed a relevant mention but dubious. Yes, I don't think they are notable. And I guess you know he keeps editing it. I worry that not enough people have him on their watchlist, and you know about my health. Good to see you there. Doug Wellertalk07:01, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
Hey, did you run a check against the user? Their edits scream sock. See also User talk:Drmies#You might wish to check. In case you're wondering, the user I mentioned is Freoh, and for the connection to that user, you'd have to look at the closure by Drmies at ANI last month that almost resulted in a block of Freoh. I can dredge up a link to that if you need it.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:00, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
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Hi, you blocked Manjuvenjaramoodu on April 30, 2023, as a sock but without identifying the master or any other socks. I'm thinking Bibin7 (created June 11) may be a sock of the blocked user. Can you check? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:00, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
Thank you both. Sometime today, I will tag everyone. I'm not going to worry about who's confirmed to whom, I'll just the tag the master as suspected and the socks as proven.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:58, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
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Hi, Josh. I recently topic banned Starkex, and a brand new user, DeshJoShaheed23232, turned up on their page to shout obscenites in Sindhi. I've blocked the likely sock as NOTHERE, but hesitate about indeffing Starkex for the nasty insults (as well as other problems). I probably should, but I got what I thought was an obvious sock wrong a while back, so I'm a little nervous about it. Could you CU please? Bishonen | tålk16:58, 24 July 2023 (UTC).
Don't you think it's a bit odd to unblock a user and decline their request to be unblocked all at the same time? :p Indeed, the language you use in the decline is accept language. BTW, on the merits, I don't predict good things to come from this user, but I suppose we'll see...or at least someone will.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:49, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
I declined his original unblock because I thought he was being an asshole. I blocked him indef because I thought he was being an asshole. He promised to stop being an asshole, so I decided to give him a bit of rope. I figured it would be a little controversial. But since I was th original blocker... --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇00:59, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
Not questioning your right to unblock, nor am I referring to your decline of June 30, but your decline you did today. See the section below this one. It just looks kinda funny, a little like those RfAs where someone puts the word Oppose in the Support section, intending to be funny, except I think your mistake was inadvertent, not an attempt at humor.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:37, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
Hi Jpgordon, I think that this comment — right after a ROPE unblock — is wildly inappropriate and a significant violation of NPA to warrant reimposition of the indefinite block. Regards, TrangaBellam (talk) 12:09, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
Sir, you have accepted my request for unblocking, but you appear to have (by mistake?) declined to unblock in the same message. Just notifying politely Galehautt (talk) 01:02, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
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Hello, I am unable to access that account anymore I lost my password. I was told by an admin to use the unblock ticket system. When I sent it there they said I needed to put it on my talk page. What if I am unable to login what do I do then? I would like to be allowed back to edit if I do I would probably just create a new account as recovering is really hard I've read.
Also I apologize about the format of my request, I have had to repost it several different times including in the ticket area. I will make it more presentable. I keep getting denied but it seems to be how and where I am entering the unblock request. Everyone's making it seem like I got a chance to edit again, I'm just doing it wrong I guess. If there is no chance of being unblocked please let me know initially, that way I spare my time and yours 🙏🏻 99.242.158.198 (talk) 01:22, 14 September 2023 (UTC).
Hello, Jpgordon. Thank you for unblocking me. Actually, I requested that my account, Akevsharma, which has more than 5000 contributions and AFC reviewer rights, be unblocked. After that, I'll just be editing from Akevsharma only. Could you please unblock it? Best wishes. Farzanfa007 (talk) 02:32, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
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Hi! I'm not entirely familiar with the guidelines for revoking tp access – would it be appropriate for the user you just blocked? Happy editing, Perfect4th (talk) 04:47, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
Is there a known master? If not, what accounts do you know about? Might as well learn something today. :-) (I tried to post this a moment ago, and a new sock edited your page (now blocked by another admin).--Bbb23 (talk) 15:56, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. Do you assume, though, that there is probably an earlier account? The common thread appears to be anti-semitism.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:13, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
Hi – thanks for protecting Yahya Sinwar! You applied semi-protection based on persistent disruptive editing – shouldn't this article have extended confirmed protection based on WP:PIA? It "relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly interpreted" (and the disruptive edits related to the conflict). Joriki (talk) 18:37, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
I hadn't seen your SPI. I confirmed this as a sock myself. I'd be happy, as always, if another checkuser wanted to double-check my results. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇21:15, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
Just trying to figure out what the sockfarm is since there's no SPI (or I missed one). I understand there's more than just InternationalPG ←→ InternationalPageant because Bbb23 said the CU data on those was too stale. I have a roster here of the beauty pageant sockfarms that I try to keep accurate. ☆ Bri (talk) 21:56, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
Forgive my confusion, I just realized that InternationalPG recently returned to activity. No further action is requested of you now. ☆ Bri (talk) 22:35, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
Question
I noticed you declined an unblock request here as "checkuser verified abuser of multiple accounts". I'm assuming this means that the account is Confirmed to one or more previously blocked accounts, but you didn't specify the master or the other sock(s). Nor did you change the block to a checkuser block or indicate the master/sock in the block log. I feel like this makes it difficult for patrollers to keep track of which sock is which especially when reporting new ones. (The talk page is on my watchlist because I reported the account to UAA, but was curious if there might be an alternate explanation behind the name that I hadn't considered). If you're going to state publicly that an account is a sock, can you please be kind enough to also state whose sock it is? Thanks. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 17:56, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
I thought that any block based on checkuser evidence was required to be denoted in the block log? And this account didn't vandalize anything as far as I can tell, the only issue was the username. I'm not a particularly avid sock hunter and probably won't become one, but if there is no indication of the master, how are non-CUs supposed to be able to establish a paper trail for future reporting? Taking Out The Trash (talk) 21:12, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
I know of no such requirement. Perhaps I've missed something (in the almost 20 years I've been a checkuser); leave me a pointer to such a policy if that's the case. If someone happens to file an SPI to document this case, the paper trail will sort out there. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇21:56, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia:CheckUser#CheckUser blocks states that Checkusers can block accounts based on technical (checkuser) evidence. They will make clear in the block log summary that they have blocked as a "checkuser action", usually by including the {{checkuserblock}}, {{checkuserblock-account}}, or similar templates. You declined the unblock request with the reason of "checkuser verified abuser of multiple accounts"; this, to me, indicates that your rationale for declining the unblock involves CheckUser evidence and therefore your decline is a "checkuser action" since non-CUs can't see the evidence/information that led you to make such a conclusion. Therefore the block log should be modified to indicate this. While I can't find any specific policy in regards to identifying the master, I feel like it's just best practice and common sense to make note of this, assuming a specific master is known/can be identified. It probably makes sense not to formally tag the user page in certain situations (especially cases like this where the username is inappropriate), but at least making a note of the master in the block log is helpful for non-CU/non-admins who might have an interest in a particular case for whatever reason.
This is probably worthy of a more general/broader discussion too, since I have a feeling that practices amongst different admins and CUs aren't the same, and it would be nice to have some uniform community-wide guidelines/expectations. This issue extends far beyond this one troll account. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 00:10, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
Shiv5523, a brand new account, was trying add some unsourced blatantly promotional material to Ben Stokes a couple of days ago. CosmicEntity01, not so new but not very many edits, comes along and adds the same material, this time with a source (not a reliable one, so I've reverted). CE01 has made similar promotional edits to other footballers (I think that's all they do), but I haven't reviewed them for sourcing. They both use the same editing platforms. Socks or coincidence?--Bbb23 (talk) 21:07, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
They're in the same country but that's about all I can say; one uses just iPhone and the other just desktop, and otherwise are entirely generic user agent strings. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇21:40, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
What seems to be your issue with the edit in question? Is it not reflective of accuracy? You arent providing any kind of sourcing etc to the contrary to label any of those edits as disruptive. I would argue your dismissal of the factual evidence is far more disruptive, so please explain your actions thank you. 65.93.214.95 (talk) 16:42, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
No ill discuss it here thanks. I didnt try and violate anything, the post was accurate, reflective of both sources and the only one who seems to have an issue with it is you. So what exactly is your issue? Was the edit inaccurate? did it lack context? the entirety of said Wiki on blackface lays it out crystal clear that yes blackface is indeed mockery of people of colour and extremely racist. So why ignore this exactly? The guy who made the video of Trudeau doing it literally was doing a video for comedy, literally mocking black stereotypes this is factual. So again what seems to be your issue? 65.93.214.95 (talk) 20:05, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed you (understandably) removed the accusation of racism from Talk:Greg Abbott, posted by The Sausage Grinder. Although created on November 15, this is not a new editor:
Colorful username
Second edit created a userpage confirming the attention-grabbing username
Edited Virtuous Pedophiles, an article I'd never heard of - and would have been just as content to remain ignorant of it
I've asked TSG what other accounts they have. No response as of yet. If they answer, my guess is they'll say something about IP editing in the past. Enough to justify a check?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:49, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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Huh, that seems surprising. Loverofediting has a lot of socks, and I haven't looked at all of them, but after looking at a few, behaviorally they don't seem at all similar. In fact, Nesshunter's edits are so bizarre I don't see a behavioral pattern with any LTA I can remember. That said, I'd like to delete a lot of the rather weird pages Nesshunter created in their userspace. Based on your finding, can I do that per WP:G5?--Bbb23 (talk) 22:56, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Well, I'm not 100% sure, actually. I originally just denied the unblock request as "that's a lousy request", but followed up with a CU, and it popped up first on the same IP as a pile of Loveofediting socks. Agreed, the weirdness seems different and unfamiliar. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇23:02, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
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Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 23
New year, new scripts. Welcome to the 23rd issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering around 39% of our favorite new and updated user scripts since 24 December 2021. That’s right, we haven’t published in two years! Can you believe it? Did you miss us?
Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!
User:Alexander Davronov/HistoryHelper has now become stable with some bugfixes and features such as automatically highlighting potentially uncivil edit summaries and automatically pinging all the users selected.
To a lesser extent, the same goes for User:PrimeHunter/Search sort.js. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
Aaron Liu: Watchlyst Greybar Unsin is a rewrite of Ais's Watchlist Notifier with modern APIs and several new features such as not displaying watchlist items marked as seen (hence the name), not bolding diffs of unseen watchlist elements which doesn’t work properly anyways, displaying the rendered edit summary, proper display of log and creation actions and more links.
Alexis Jazz: Factotum is a spiritual successor to reply-link with a host of extra features like section adding, link rewriting, regular expressions and more.
User:Aveaoz/AutoMobileRedirect: This script will automatically redirect MobileFrontend (en.m.wikipedia) to normal Wikipedia. Unlike existing scripts, this one will actually check if your browser is mobile or not through its secret agent string, so you can stay logged in on mobile! Hooray screen estate!
Deputy is a first-of-its-kind copyright cleanup toolkit. It overrides the interface for Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations for easy case processing. It also includes the functionality of the following (also new) scripts:
User:Elominius/gadget/diff arrow keys allows navigation between diffs with the arrow keys. It also has a version that requires holding Ctrl with the arrow key.
Frequently link to Wikipedia on your websites yet find generating CC-BY credits to be such a hassle? Say no more! User:Luke10.27/attribute will automatically do it for ya and copy the credit to yer clipboard.
User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft, a spiritual successor (i.e. fork) to Evad37's script, with a few bugs solved, and a host of extra features like check-boxes for choosing draftification reasons, multi-contributor notification, and appropriate warnings based on last edit time.
/CopyCodeBlock: one of the most important operations for any scripter and script-user is to copy and paste. This script adds a copy button in the top right of every code block (not to be confused with <code>) that will, well, copy it to your clipboard!
m:User:NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh/AceForLuaDebugConsole.js adds the Ace editor (a.k.a. the editor you see when editing JS, CSS and Lua on Wikimedia wikis) to the Lua debug console. "In my opinion, whoever designed it to be a plain <textarea> needs to seriously reconsider their decision."
GANReviewTool quickly and easily closes good article nominations.
ReviewStatus displays whether or not a mainspace page is marked as reviewed.
SpeciesHelper tries to add the correct speciesbox, category, taxonbar, and stub template to species articles.
User:Opencooper/svgReplace and Tol's fork replaces all rasterized SVGs with their original SVG codes for your loading pleasures. Tell us which one is better!
ArticleInfo displays page information at the top of the page, directly below the title.
/HeaderIcons takes away the Vector 2022 user dropdown and replaces it with all of the icons within, top level, right next to the Watchlist. One less click away! There's also an alternate version that uses text links instead of icons.
Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
Hello @Jpgordon, I noticed a very odd page with bad grammar and little info, House of Romay. I was researching naval officer Ramon Romay. I realized it used to be a proper page but appears to have just been heavily vandalized by user @Giganoto48 that created the account today and only edited this article removing 90% of its contents and left the article in pieces, I assume hoping for it to be deleted. I looked at the previous version (before the three edits by this user Giganoto48) and there are real sources and content well written. I don't understand, I guess it must be a sort of targeted action to destroy the article as there were no efforts to add to it.
I quickly noticed a similar thing had happened before to this very page, and you @Jpgordon had the article House of Romay protected after encountering vandalisms by sockpuppets of a user with an entire investigation behind it: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Alibarzanjilo/Archive. It seems it is happening in again with this new account, and since you were the protector before with the authority to freeze it, I thought I'd let you do the honors. it seems the previous edit on 4 December was the best final version https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=House_of_Romay&oldid=1188212676.
I also noticed the article has a Spanish version on Wikipedia, went on it and it was also aggressively edited/vandalised today by the same user Giganoto48: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_de_Romay
I suggest protecting it indefinitely or for a long period to allow for a proper investigation. Hope this was helpful. Not sure if the Spanish version can be protected too or if its a different jurisdiction. Benzeneshamus (talk) 22:45, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
@Jpgordon thanks. I came across this page as I was researching Naval General Ramon Romay, who is quite famous in Spain. I think I might have stumbled on a bigger issue at play with that page, as there seems to be a recurring effort to bring it down - smells personal, from what I gather. The last edits, by @Giganoto48, were very clearly vandalism, removing massive amounts of info without any attempt to improve what is clearly a decent article. Thankfully, you protected the page. That said, I saw another user now, @Mopertcasocp, chip in immediately after you protected the page, writing to push the negative edits. they have produced a series of very suspicious links that are very unprofessional, without sources (beyond one, which makes no sense and I debunk in the talk page). I couldn't resist researching this further, none of those pages are saying anything real, the pages seem fake (blogs passing as news), all have the same content (identical) and all were posted less than a 6 weeks ago.
So, I also reviewed the edit history, the edit warring that took place some time ago (for the exact same reason as now), and the eventual protection of the page. The accounts before were all discovered to be sockuppets trying to vandalize the page, and were all blocked with the page protected: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Alibarzanjilo/Archive. It looks like this is a second round of the same, as BOTH these users are new accounts that have only edited the House of Romay page. I am relatively inexperienced here, so was hoping maybe someone more high up could review these users and perhaps place the page on a longer protection until all this could be reviewed. Looping @MusikBot II as they are also being mentioned in the talk page. Benzeneshamus (talk) 22:57, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
SPI blocks
Hello, Jpgordon,
I was looking at User talk:VonLumina and noticed that when you blocked this editor for block-evasion, you didn't post a block notice on the editor's talk page. That seems to be standard practice for other checkusers and admins who help out at SPI cases and I'd like to ask that you do this as well. If you use Twinkle to impose a block this happens automatically so that might make things easier. I find that I use Twinkle for admin and editor tasks continually when I'm on the project, it really helps because you don't have to go looking for the template you need to use. If you haven't used it, I encourage you to try it out as it makes doing admin tasks so much easier. Thank you. LizRead!Talk!00:18, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
German language sock
I saw you blocked Mrfritz2000 and a bunch of others that had been active at Talk:Israel saying that German was an official language. I just blocked Baleteesman and Schamuel345 as obvious ducks. I didn't see any tags, and I don't know if you actually CU'd them, so I figured I'd pop by and let you know they're still at it, and you might want to take a peek for any more. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:33, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
FYI, the numbers that you (appropriately) removed were reference numbers to the former discography which was largely removed in Sept, 2023, but the references were *not* removed. I have written to the editor about what discography issues they thought were problematic, because a lot of important releases are no longer included. I did reinstate the publication years of the "Further Reading" section.Finney1234 (talk) 01:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
Oh! I hadn't realized what had happened, and my regex eliminated those years while it was doing the other things. Faulty proofreading on my part; thanks for catching it. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇01:29, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Responsibility for the Holocaust
Your edit to "internationalism" from intentionalist is entirely incorrect. The debate is called the intentionalism-functionalism debate. Yes, these words seem odd to non-historians or people without expertise in this subject matter. It centers on the manner in which the Holocaust developed and who was responsible for it. While I realize you're an administrator, I am a subject matter expert, who provided most of the content for this page. Please review the change more carefully, as what you are introducing will only create confusion. Yes, I realize it was wrong in the Summary paragraph, but that likely stemmed from somebody making a similar change to what you did based on their unfamiliarity with the terminology. How it went unnoticed, well...we are only human and busy with other matters. Obenritter (talk) 20:43, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
Oh -- LOL. It happens. Sorry if there was confusion. Thanks for staying on top of the usual drive-by unregistered user crapola. :) ...--Obenritter (talk) 15:26, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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Technical news
Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)
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Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.
A vote to ratify the charter for the Universal Code of Conduct Coordinating Committee (U4C) is open till 2 February 2024, 23:59:59 (UTC) via Secure Poll. All eligible voters within the Wikimedia community have the opportunity to either support or oppose the adoption of the U4C Charter and share their reasons. The details of the voting process and voter eligibility can be found here.
Community Tech has made some preliminary decisions about the future of the Community Wishlist Survey. In summary, they aim to develop a new, continuous intake system for community technical requests that improves prioritization, resource allocation, and communication regarding wishes. Read more
That another editor chooses to monitor your adherence to your topic ban is not harassment, in my eyes. That you don't think adding or deleting Chechen ethnicity from an article is a violation of that ban is the actual problem. Feel free, however, to bring this to WP:ANI if you truly believe you have a case. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇16:54, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
Please check on these challenges with Wikimedia Commons legal
The 46 second video of the Vietnamese patient exhibiting purported symptoms of hydrophobia is legally problematic for two reasons, and intellectually for a third.
First, it is reuse of CC A4 licensed materials contrary to licensing requirements, specifically, that "anyone may copy, redistribute, reuse, or modify the content as long as the author and original source are properly cited" [See journals.plos.org/plosone/s/licenses-and-copyright.] This video does not properly attribute itself to/cite its source; the author and original source appear nowhere in direct connection to the video. (It is insufficient to expect a connection be understood to apply indirectly, through a Wikipedia editor's or otherwise experienced user's following the video to Wikimedia Commons, and thereafter to its source.) The reasonable expectation of those signing documents assenting to this licensing is that proper citation involves presentation of the PLOS citation in the article, in the legend of the image, or something similar.
Second, and a more serious concern, is whether applicable interpretive frameworks regarding the CC A4 apply to the secondary use of a video in a widely disseminated encyclopedia after its appearance in the PLOS source, given only the statement of informed consent that appears with the video in the original cited article. It is a reasonable ethical concern that the informed consent statement assents to the appearance of the video in that scientific article, without understanding (and therefore without consent) that it might be more widely disseminated as it currently is (e.g., with a thumbnail still of the deceased patient appearing in the article, per se). I am virtually certain this would not be allowed in the West under HIPAA-type privacy interpretations, and so I think it reasonable to question it in this case as well. Hence, this requires someone at the Commons with legal and ethical expertise related to the international equivalents of standard privacy, informed consent, and HIPAA-type patient protections, and review of the wording of that original informed consent statement, and whether it is in compliance with and justifies consent to the release of the medical image and video, as it now appears, in the context of applicable international laws and regulations.
The third, entirely scholarly reason, is that this use is actually a misuse of a primary source, and without indicated support from one or more secondary sources. The interpretation that the symptoms being displayed are of "hydrophobia" from a rabies exposure are those of the primary source author, in a case study. As an assertion of a single primary source, we are to view them as possibly correct, but possibly not; that is, under WP guidelines regarding sourcing, as an assertion of a single primary source, it should not by itself, absent other supportive sourcing, hold a position of significant persuasive power (i.e., regarding how the symptoms of hydrophobia present) as this video presently does.
For any of these reason, the video might be best hidden from view. But until the Commons provides a formal legal perspective on the privacy and informed consent issues raised, until such allows its use, I believe the video should be removed from view.
Wikimedia Commons has its own policies and more to the point its own set of administrators; I have no authority or any influence there. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇23:42, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
Hello everyone, and welcome to the 24th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering all our favorite new and updated user scripts since 24 December 2021. Uh-huh, we're finally covering the good ones among the rest! Aren't you excited? Remember to include a link in double brackets to the script's .js page when you install the script, so that we can see who uses the script in WhatLinksHere! The ScriptInstaller gadget automatically does this. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:00, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!
Featured script
Making user scripts load faster by SD0001 is this month's featured script, which caches userscripts every day to eliminate the overhead caused by force-downloading the newest version of scripts every time you open a Wikipedia page. Despite being released in April 2021, our best script scouters have failed to locate it due to its omission from the US of L. For security reasons, the script only supports loading JavaScript pages.
Newly maintained scripts
After earthly attempts at improving the original have failed...
Ahecht has created a fork of SiBr4/TemplateSearch, which adds the "TP:" shortcut for "Template:" in the search box, and updated it to be compatible with Vector 2022.
AquilaFasciata/goToTopFast is a much faster fork of the classic goToTop script that also adds compatibility for Minerva and Vector 2022.
Without caching. Each script takes 400–500ms. A particularly large script takes 1.11 s! Internet download speed is 50 Mbps.With caching enabled. Each script takes just 1-2 ms to load.
Improve a script
Unfortunately, this section has remained nearly identical. Help us out here!
To a lesser extent, the same goes for PrimeHunter/Search sort. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
Dragoniez/SuppressEnterInForm stops you from accidentally submitting anything due to pressing enter while in the smaller box, and works on almost anything... except the InputBox element itself, used in subscription lists and the Signpost Crossword! Oh, the humanity!
Doǵu/Adiutor(pictured) provides a nice, integrated interface to do some twinkley tasks such as copyvio detection, CSD tagging, and viewing the most recent diff.
Eejit43 has quite the aesthetically pleasing scripts, all made in TypeScript.
/afcrc-helper is a replacement for the unmaintained Enterprisey/AFCRHS and processes Redirects for Creation and Categories for Creation requests.
/ajax-undo stops the "undo" button from taking you to another page while providing a text box to provide a reason for the revert.
/redirect-helper(pictured) adds a much better interface for editing and redirects, including categorization, for which valid categories are dictated by /redirect-helper.json.
/rmtr-helper helps process technical requested moves without being able to actually move them.
Guycn2/UserInfoPopup(pictured) adds a flyout after the watchlist star on userspace pages that displays the common information you might use about a user.
Jeeputer/editCounter, under userspace, adds a portlet link to count your edits by namespace, put them in a table, and put that table in a hardcoded subpage, all in the background.
Hilst/Scripts/sectionLinks converts all section links to use the § sign, which are known to be preferred over the ugly # by 99% of the devils I've met.
PrimeHunter/Category source.js adds portlet links to tell you where a category for an article comes from and supports those from template transclusions.
Sophivorus's MiniEdit adds some nice, li'l buttons next to paragraphs to edit their wikitext with a minimal interface.
Edit-listings
Dragoniez/ToollinkTweaks adds more and customizable links next to users in page history, logs, watchlist, recent changes, etc.
Firefly/more-block-info optimizes the display of rangeblocks in contribution pages. Doesn't work outside the English locale of any wiki, unfortunately.
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh/AjaxLoader makes paging links (e.g. older 50, 500, newest) load without refreshing and makes you realize how slow your internet actually is.
Appearance-ricing
Ahecht/RedirectID adds the redirect target to all redirects. For all the WP:NAVPOPS haters. (Do these exist?)
Dragoniez/MarkBLockedGlobal: Remember the "strike blocked usernames" gadget? Now you can use a red, dotted line to highlight rangeblocks and global locks!
Jonesey/common(pictured) has some styles to overhaul your Vector 2022 experience. It reduces padding everywhere, and makes the top bar animation faster.
Aaron Liu/V22 is a fork that narrows the sidebars instead of upheaving them, reverts the January 2024 dropdown changes, and restores the old page-link color for links that don't go outside the current wiki.
Nardog: SmartDiff is a spiritual successor to Enterprisey/fancy-diffs. It makes the page title part of links in diffs clickable, along with template and parser function calls. Unnamed parameters can be configured per template to also be linked. All links are styled based on the normal CSS classes of rendered links.
For the paranoid: Rublov/anonymize replaces your username at the top of the screen with the generic "User page" text. Remember, it is your duty to persuade everyone that editing is an honor.
/AjaxBlock provides a dialog box for easy input of reasons while blocking users.
/Selective Rollback(pictured) provides a dialog box to customize rollback edit summaries and does them without reloading the page. Seriously, why doesn't MediaWiki already do this?
/flickrsearch adds a portlet link to search for uploadable flickr images about the subject.
/randomincategory adds a portlet link when on Category pages to go to a random page in the current category.
Vghfr/EasyTemplates adds a portlet link to automatically insert some of the most common inline {{fix}} templates.
Yes, we're just doing 'em as we go now. Thanks for reading through this looong issue, if you did! I'm sure this'll send a record for the longest issue ev-ah. You may need to wait even longer for the last issue, as our reserve of old-y and goodie scripts have ran out... We encourage you to try and do some of the requests or improvement tasks. See you in Summer, hopefully!
A new user, SigmaGamerBro has been white-washing the article. They were reported to WP:AIV, but it was declined because of insufficient warnings. I left a 3RR warning on their Talk page but did not revert their last edit because I wanted to be able to act administratively had they continued edit-warring. However, another editor reverted them. Then, Bongo0819 reinstated SGB's edit and added some additional white-washing of their own. Bongo is not a new editor, but they have only a handful of edits, and up to now, all their edits have been gnomish and none to controversial articles such as Visegrád 24. Could you check it out (so to speak)? Thanks. Addendum: while I was writing this, Raiden5255 has rather extensively rewritten the article (and not very well). Doesn't look like a sock to me, but I just thought I'd mention it.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:40, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi! A little over two months ago, you unblocked Logosx127. This unblock was came following their indef for socking (having previously edited at Br Ibrahim John). I initially did not intervene to prevent this unblock despite receiving a private message from an editor who participates on both EnWikipedia and Malayalam Wikipedia which expressed that I should reiterate my concerns regarding Logosx127 (I can post the contents of that message upon request and I can contact the sender to determine if they are ok sharing their identity). Logosx127 has returned to edit warring and adding unreferenced/poorly referenced content–exactly what got their original account blocked. I remain unconvinced that they did not participate in other instances of socking during their extended vacation, particularly since Logosx127 almost immediately reopened a debate on Syro-Malabar Church previously litigated by a sockpuppeteer that harassed me for months in 2022. I regret not speaking up earlier and request your opinion on what I should do about this. ~ Pbritti (talk) 22:50, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Looks to me like Logosx127 and Pbritti don't get along, but I'm not going to do a full-scaled investigation into whether Logosx127 has done anything sanctionable, and Pbritti hasn't presented much evidence. In addition, I'm a bit hazy on your unblock. Was Logosx127 denying that they were a sock or promising they would stop socking? In other words, what were the implied conditions in your unblock and is Pbritti saying that Logo violated those conditions? If Pbritti is saying that Logo should be reblocked having nothing to do with socking, then they should bring the matter to ANI with evidence as to why. I hope this makes sense because when I reread it, it sounds a bit convoluted.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:51, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
@Bbb23: Don't worry, you're making sense. I wanted editors involved in the unblock to take a look. If neither of you see something right off the bat that screams "we shouldn't have made that unblock" (not something that would need a longer investigation or ANI discussion), then I'm sufficiently convinced there isn't something worth pursuing here. Thanks for taking the time to check! ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:55, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
Sorry for interfering here, but it seems fair to do so since the discussion is about me. I just want to get you informed that I am not involved in edit-warring but simply trying to protect the article from an apparent attempt of taking over/hijacking of the article by the complainant. I have been repeatedly trying to bring the user into discussion and consensus making but what I have received in return is threats, bullying and complaints against me. I request you to take a look into the talk page of the article to avoid getting misled by the said user's malicious allegations. Yes, I agree that I am at times at odds with the user, but that's purely based on the article pov. Honestly speaking, I really don't want things getting this way around (I mean to say I just don't want this dispute getting worser and lengthy). So I opened many discussions in the article talk, though sadly in a futile attempt, for dispute resolution. Hope a third opinion from you or someone else who likes to offer it can contribute to a solution in the same way as it did recently regarding the renaming of the article. Thank you. Logosx127 (talk) 18:34, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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I tried to click on your your antiques roadshow youtube video but it doesn't work. If not signed in then it tells me to sign if. If signed in it says I don't have permission.
Still doesn't work for me. Perhaps you need to geolocate to the USA if it's PBS and that would explain first link not working as well as this one? Just a theory. Anyway your second link has a transcript which satisfies my mild curiosity as to what it was about! 2A02:8011:EB50:0:A8B1:4C53:8D3F:9B6D (talk) 00:38, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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Hello, currently on the visa policy pages for countries around the world.. an editor is editing using multiple accounts.
He is [User:DENOSIO] and his puppets, who have already been blocked several times.
When looked at their history, he wrote a lot of inaccurate information, which caused friction with other editors.
First of all, I ask you to block the accounts that appear to be his puppets.
1. Stars678
2. JapanNipponTokyo19
3. 2401:7400:c806:5aa7:6062:6ccd:6241:a643
4. 2401:7400:c806:5aa7:287a:c99e:499d:e34e
5. 203.168.xx
6. 203.81.xx
7. 46.166.xx
8. Enjoy1999
Their speaking style and editing style are similar to the puppets that have already been blocked several times.
If the above measures are difficult, please set the 'VISA POLICY' pages of all countries in the world (198 countries) to allow only long-term certified users to post.
At least I think there will be less writing done by DENOSIO's puppets.
Since I also violated WIKIPEDIA while 'defending' DENOSIO, I am 'prepared' to be punished for it and am posting a message to the administrator.
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Well, perhaps you might go back and look at the sentences you added: "and according to accademic scholars one the most influential music artist of the 20th century". "According to experts was also a politically conscious activist voice for Black America.". Do you notice any problems with these sentences? What's an "accademic scholar" as opposed to any other sort of scholar? The sourcing is good; the use of language isn't. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇15:19, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
I added that content into the lead using those sources and good language. But there is a user who always takes everything away, how should you behave? Pier1999 (talk) 10:54, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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Hi Jpgordon, I noticed that you left a message on my talk page regarding my edit to User talk:149.19.60.180, which you subsequently removed after a few minutes. I understand where this could get confused and concerned when I removed one of the blocked IP range's unblock request, added a suggestion and readded the "Requests for unblock" category. Following the post of your message, I have now realized that reinserting that category (just so that some action can be taken if necessary) is not exactly correct and that there are better and more helpful ways to handle these kind of situations, such as by reporting it to WP:ANI. I would like to thank you for the advice you gave me, and I am sorry for any inconvenience I may have caused in this situation.~ SG5536B (talk) 12:59, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Well, I reverted it because you were right, just in the wrong place, and the message seemed overly snarky, and it was late enough in the day that I didn't feel like rewording it to be more civil. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇14:03, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Sorry but this musical has escaped my attention. I am not a great follower of modern musicals. I see it had a limited run in London last year and so far as I can see it has not been performed anywhere else in Britain. I didn't have a great deal of time to check out sources and I half expected the post to be spam or vandalism. Is it too much to expect somebody to give a source when they make such an edit as this? or to have it ready to put it in if asked ? And as for almost every article about it including the reference to Garvey a quick check of Google just now shows the 2 most reliable sources on it do not mention Garvey. They were The Guardian review of the London production and the piece on the Pullitzer Prize site.. The Wikipedia article on the show doesn't mention Garvey and I think the New York Times is behind a paywall. ( I may be wrong) You obviously didn't understand my little joke about composting.. Spinney Hill (talk) 23:41, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Spinney Hill (talk) 23:47, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
I understood the compost joke, I mess around with words all the time. I like 21th century composters. Sorry for being snippy. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇02:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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Thanks, too much time on their hands, probably a jerk IRL also. I feel sorry for the parents.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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a legal threat here? I reverted the post but though an admin who had edite the article or posted on the articl talk should probably check it out. I also notified Acroterion since they had edited the article/article talk as well. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 17:35, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Just an ignorant troll, the moronic sort who thinks political labels and positions are stable over centuries within parties and within societies. Hardly a serious legal threat. I'll keep an eye and see if it returns. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇17:40, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
I'm not asking only about whether to tag at all but what level of tag (suspected, proven, confirmed). As always, thanks for your help.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:25, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
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Avran Ninan. Nobody I've seen before, but as soon as അദ്വൈതൻ said "I haven't abandoned this account and started a new one to cover up these history", my radar immediately said "who even asked?" so I checked. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇21:45, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Where did the user make that comment? I must've missed it. It's interesting that they created the new account before my block. Naturally, I'm going to tag - confirmed, proven, or suspected? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:02, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Hello admin, @Garabnimo has evaded their block after being blocked under their previous account @Samirlalas for restoration of questionable content at various articles related to the Somali people and their history. The account is now restoring content at the Somali clans article and is insulting with very bad language at the edit summary. Please have them blocked immediately. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 15:26, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
In Kuči article there is a dispute about origin. While i think that direct, modern and academic source that directly addresses the claim of the origin and calls tribe "mixed in origin", which is based on the Ottoman census data from the creation time of the tribe (end of 15th century), some other editors are disagreeing and base their opinion on sources that comment on a 17th century language report by some catholic priest. While i have no problem with that report, as i've stated in the talk page, i don't think that something that happened 2 centuries later and only has 1 report, can be used to form an opinion that the tribe was Albanian in origin. I am saying opinion, because no source states directly that the tribe is Albanian in origin, and while they found sources that will group up this tribe with Albanian ones, those books don't talk about source, mostly about rules and traditions which are basically the same for all the tribes in North Albania, Montenegro and Herzegovina.
Talk page discussions go nowhere, as they don't want to agree to anything, and i am the only one that has to talk there. As you can see, few of them that are in my opinion holding the article as a hostage, make changes without any communication between themselves, in a short span of time.
I tried opening dispute resolution, but i doubt they will answer at all, as they didn't in the last 24 hours (keep in mind, if i make an edit now on any of the articles they control, i am reverted in about 5 minutes).
There's no reasoning with them, they claim that the question of origin doesn't need to be answered as it's WP:BLUESKY, which clearly it's not.
I always assume good faith, but based on their behaviour on other articles as well, i am starting to doubt that.
For example, they created page for Drekalovići, which is a brotherhood in Kuči (and was covered by that article), but they claim it's a tribe (they use sources that claim nothing like that, and won't change that or delete the page) just so they could stack Albanian tribes sidebar, which they push into articles.
They also constantly push for the Albanian variation of the name Kuči, instead of using English one. Both in the article, as well as in the talk page. They are slowly changing article until only the Albanian name is left, and that again makes me think that they have nationalistic POV which hurts the discussion. I asked them to at least not use that in talk page, but they declined.
I am doing my best here not to accuse them of something like tag teaming and pushing agenda, but it's really getting hard.
Really, what you need is more eyes on the discussion. An RFC would be appropriate. This is a pretty complex issue regarding questions of sourcing and synthesis. I have no idea who in this dispute is correct. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇22:23, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
I never expected you to get into the sources, i just think that their way of working is wrong.
I will try RfC once dispute resolution is closed, which i assume will happen soon as they will never respons.
...for your rapid response to my IP block exemption request, two years in a row. You make my life here on Wikipedia much easier, and your work is very much appreciated! Curt内蒙17:33, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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The 161... address is indeed a blocked proxy. Your 192. address is local just to your device or local router. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 20:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, but this response does not actually state a reason for the decline. This is a home internet router. And I haven't edited anything on Widipedia in a very long time. Indeed our fiber hookup was just installed this last week so that IP address should be brand new anyway.
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Hmmm, dumb question, but is there an easy way to get off that proxy? I use my work computer (from home) a lot and this is the way it is configured. (Not a big deal since I don't plan to get heavily involved with WP again, but still.) -- Mcorazao (talk) 02:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Hey JP, I noticed your procedural decline at Notwally's Talk page and it dovetailed nicely into this "investigation" I'm doing of a new user named Starinthemirror. I believe they are likely Knowitall369, the user with whom Notwally was edit-warring. Knowitall hasn't edited since I blocked them for 48h on September 11. However, Star has been harassing Notwally on their Talk page and filed a report at ANI (which I removed twice). In addition, Star is saying essentially that Notwally is reverting at various articles without explanation or discussion on the Talk page (the former isn't accurate), which is precisely what Knowitall has complained about. Could you please compare the two?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:57, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Lol, please @Jpgordon, give @Bbb23 a hand with investigating this. Honestly, I’d be honored if you thought I joined WP 14-years ago, so no shame there! Go ahead and look into everything thoroughly—compare whatever you need, and investigate this with your full focus. Time waste - @Bbb23you dont own WP. We are all the same and @Notwally Is deleting since 7 week content without any explanaions or discussions in Talk pages. Dont know whats so hard to understand here. Starinthemirror (talk) 17:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Do your full analysis ASAP since you’ve gone ahead and accused me of being a sock puppet. Now I’m actually interested to see what you come up with. Starinthemirror (talk) 17:30, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Here's a crazy thought. Maybe the reason Notwally keeps getting accused of the same kind of misbehavior by multiple users is because he repeatedly engages in the same kind of misbehavior. Knowitall369 (talk) 07:29, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
I could have guessed that a vandal labeling the removal of BLP violations as "defamatory" might also fake an accepted unblock request, but 331dot did appear in the page history and I didn't (want to?) see the absurdity of the alleged response... ~ ToBeFree (talk) 03:09, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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I'm more inclined to just delete the whole page as vandalism. But I've rolled it back to the only edit from the actual user account, declined it, removed TPA, and protected the page. What a bore. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇02:38, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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Confirmed to one or more previously blocked accounts, but you didn't specify the master or the other sock(s). Nor did you change the block to a checkuser block or indicate the master/sock in the block log. I feel like this makes it difficult for patrollers to keep track of which sock is which especially when reporting new ones. (The talk page is on my watchlist because I reported the account to UAA, but was curious if there might be an alternate explanation behind the name that I hadn't considered). If you're going to state publicly that an account is a sock, can you please be kind enough to also state whose sock it is? Thanks. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 17:56, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
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