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A page you started (List of Category 1 Pacific hurricanes) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating List of Category 1 Pacific hurricanes.

I have just reviewed the page, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

Wow - epic task! I can see the finished quality of the other similar articles in this Series which you have worked on are they great. You have placed your own tags on the sections awaiting sections which is very helpful. If there are tables that you are not fully happy/finished with, I would also tag them as incomplete. Amazing work!

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Britishfinance (talk) 15:39, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

@Britishfinance: This and the tropical storm list will honestly be the worst to finish as they are much more common than the other Categories. I hope to get a decent amount done in the coming days. Thanks for the review. NoahTalk 21:08, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Set indexes aren't dabs

Note that set index articles, including tropical storm set indexes, are not disambiguation pages. -- JHunterJ (talk) 20:48, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

@JHunterJ: In that case, do we need to move all of them over? NoahTalk 20:50, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
Move them over where? -- JHunterJ (talk) 20:51, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
@JHunterJ: I meant change them all to list? NoahTalk 20:52, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
They are lists. -- JHunterJ (talk) 20:53, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
Oh, I see. The template on the talk page. Yes, none of them should say "dab". -- JHunterJ (talk) 20:54, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

@JHunterJ: Alright... well... I will work on that. NoahTalk 20:58, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

TFL notification

Hi, Hurricane Noah. I'm just posting to let you know that List of Category 2 Pacific hurricanes – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for March 1. The TFL blurb can be seen here. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 22:13, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hurricane Rosa (2018)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Hurricane Rosa (2018) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Yellow Evan -- Yellow Evan (talk) 17:21, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

List articles

Hey Figfires, not sure if you saw my post on the project talk page about list articles for certain areas. I was wondering if there was an article that doesn't have a list for a certain area that you'd be interested in writing. I could help with how to format it, but it's a fairly easy type of article to write. It seems like you're interested in Pacific tropical cyclones - there are lists for Arizona, New Mexico, Califoria, Hawaii, and Baja California, leaving open Nevada, the remaining Pacific coastal states, and Central America (which will also have to include Atlantic storms to be comprehensive. If you do a good job, you might even get it featured on the main page of Wikipedia! Several of my articles have been on the main page, and I gotta tell you, it's an amazing feeling of pride, knowing that thousands of people will read something you wrote. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 19:39, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: Well... for one thing, I do want to have a list for Ohio since I live there. I have experienced the remnants of several hurricanes (Gordon and Florence are two this year). I could write up a list for Central America. I figured it could be divided between EPAC and ATL. FigfiresSend me a message! 19:51, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
I know offhand a few significant tropical cyclones in Ohio (Agnes and Ike). If you want to do Ohio, I'd recommend doing the entire Ohio Valley (Tennessee, Kentucky, West Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois). It sounds like a lot, but you're going to get almost all of the same inland tropical cyclones that affect Ohio as the other ones. That's by the very nature of tropical cyclone tracks. It takes a lot for a storm hitting the east coast to produce rainfall as far west as Ohio (usually a cold front steers the storms northward). For the east coast landfalls that affect Ohio, it would also likely affect West Virginia, such as Hurricane Sandy, which produced snowfall in West Virginia and Ohio, or Hurricane Agnes, which produced rainfall in both states. Compare those storms to a Gulf Coast landfall like Hurricane Juan, which produced rainfall in all of the states in the Ohio Valley. If you decide to only to storms in Ohio, you'll find those storms here when a storm in the right column says , OH. You can use that same resource for other states. There might not be a lot of storms that have information about their effects in Ohio, given how far inland it is, but there's no harm in doing that research. I just know that when I write something, I want to make sure I'm not wasting my time (like an edit-conflict, or when I start writing an article that wasn't needed after all). ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:15, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Alright... thanks. Im working on Central America first. Also, I didn't know if you were aware or not, but there a couple GANs without reviewers if you would be interested. FigfiresSend me a message! 20:21, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
I reviewed Hurricane Olivia (2018). Also, with Central America, there are so many storms over the years. It might be easier to go one country at a time. Not too many storms have affected Costa Rica from either Atlantic or Pacific. Also, storms rarely affect Nicaragua from the Pacific, but more often from the Atlantic. El Salvador tends to get the inland effects of hurricane landfalls on the Caribbean side, and same with Honduras, while Hurricane Mitch was a notable landfall from the north. Belize often gets hit directly because of its location in the Gulf of Honduras. Guatemala doesn't often get struck, but it's from storms on both Atlantic and Pacific coasts. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 20:50, 8 December 2018 (UTC)

Hey there, I saw you're still working on List of Category 1 Pacific hurricanes. Good job keeping at it! List articles can be arduous and time consuming, but you get a real sense of pride when you're done. Best of luck finishing. At a certain point, you just build momentum, and you end up thinking about finishing the list when you're off wiki. Or at least I do. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:43, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: I edited for 9 hours straight once to finish the Cat 2 list. NoahTalk 02:50, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
That's... really dedicated and bad for your eyes :P And I've probably had some all day editing sessions too. Make sure you take time to rest. Doctors recommend the 20/20/20 rule. For every 20 minutes, focus your eyes on something 20 feet away for 20 seconds. That will reduce eye strain, which might not affect you now, but will affect generations of people staring at screens too long (so basically everyone under 80). Happy editing though! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:46, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

"Correct sampling time"...

...is pretty meaningless when it comes to distinguishing the gust values, since both agencies use 3-second gusts. 1- versus 10-minute "sampling time" is a meaningless notion here, and is not what is meant by 1- or 10-minute sustained winds. We've always listed gusts last, and I see no reason whatsoever to change this convention. --Jasper Deng (talk) 06:52, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

@Jasper Deng: If they are both indeed 3 second gusts, why are they different? In theory, they should be the same number as they are the same measurement period. The sustained winds are averages of measurements taken over 1 minute by JTWC and 10 minutes by JMA. My only guess is JMA uses 3 second gusts on a 10 minute scale. The difference in gust values seemed to be about 17.5% for the agreed upon peak intensity. This topic obviously needs discussion as gusts vary between the two agencies. NoahTalk 13:34, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
"On a 10 minute scale" is nothing but meaningless hand waving. The values are different because their estimates for sustained winds for a given T-number is different. The rule of thumb is that gusts are 40% more than 10-minute sustained winds. In turn, the accepted conversion factor between 1- and 10-minute sustained winds is almost the same as that from knots to mph. From this, we see that they really aren't agreeing on the actual intensity. It's pretty simple and we don't need to elaborate.--Jasper Deng (talk) 20:54, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hurricane Rosa (2018)

The article Hurricane Rosa (2018) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Hurricane Rosa (2018) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Yellow Evan -- Yellow Evan (talk) 23:21, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hurricane Sergio (2018)

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Your GA nomination of Hurricane Sergio (2018)

The article Hurricane Sergio (2018) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Hurricane Sergio (2018) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of 12george1 -- 12george1 (talk) 03:02, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Re: Web archive template

Are you referring to Template:Webarchive? If so, then no, I will not add a language template. It is used over 300,000 times, and none of them currently have the language, and for good reason. You can already add that into Template:Cite web with archiveurl= and archivedate=. You can just add the language as language=. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:57, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks... Do you know where to find archived prognostic data for JTWC? Btw... I am going outside my comfort zone to create an article ;) NoahTalk 23:03, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
If you're working on Idai (which I hope you are, easy ITN candidate), then you should know that the JTWC doesn't do prognostic data for storms outside of the WPAC. They usually include that prognostic data in the advisories. That being said, I can't find a good advisory for the JTWC archives. Maybe Jason Rees would know? BTW, the RSMC for the SWIO is Meteo-France. Here is their archive of advisories for Idai (assuming that's the storm you were talking about). ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:31, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
Yeah... I was told to switch to the English advisories. NoahTalk 23:37, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
Meteo France is in English. Is that what you meant? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:38, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
No... I was using the advisories that were in French because I can read it lol. NoahTalk 23:40, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
That's awesome, and useful too! It's been a pain using Google to translate French sources while I've been working a list for all cyclones in the Mascarene Islands (Réunion, Mauritius, and Rodrigues), which are affected much more regularly than Mozambique. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:01, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Cyclone Idai

On 16 March 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Cyclone Idai, which you created. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. SpencerT•C 14:43, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Newsletter for the Member of the Month

Volume XIV, Issue 37, February 25, 2019

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Storm of the month (Typhoon Wutip) and other tropical activity

Typhoon Wutip was the strongest February typhoon on record, surpassing Typhoon Higos from 2015. On February 25, Wutip reached peak intensity as a Category 5-equivalent super typhoon, with maximum 10-minute sustained winds of 195 km/h (120 mph), 1-minute sustained winds of 260 km/h (160 mph), and a minimum central pressure of 915 hPa (mbar).

Other storms so far in the 2019 typhoon season include a long-lived tropical depression in January, and the year-crossing Tropical Storm Pabuk, which struck southern Thailand, becoming the first storm to hit the area since Linda in 1997. Pabuk caused 10 deaths and $151 million in damage. Upon entering the North Indian Ocean, Pabuk marked the earliest a storm was in the basin in the calendar year.

In the south-west Indian Ocean, two tropical storms – Desmond and Eketsang – formed in the Mozambique Channel. The latter storm killed 10 people in Madagascar. Two intense tropical cyclones – Funani and Gelena – developed in February. The latter storm left 90% of Rodrigues without power. There is a tropical disturbance that is active as of the timing of this newsletter's publication.

In the Austrailan region, Tropical Cyclone Penny developed in late December near Queensland, and spent early January striking Australia three times. A series of tropical lows and cyclones formed around Australia, including Cyclone Oma which crossed 160°E twice, the boundary with the South Pacific Ocean. In early January, Cyclone Mona caused flooding in Fiji, which formed earlier in the Australian region. Cyclone Pola is active as of the publication of this newsletter.

New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter in November 2013

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Member of the month (edition) – Hurricane Noah

User:Hurricane Noah has been editing Wikipedia since 2016, and joined the WPTC in October 2017. This year, Hurricane Noah created the featured list List of Category 2 Pacific hurricanes, as well as the A-class article Tropical Depression Nineteen-E (2018). Thank you Hurricane Noah for your contributions - I hope you continue editing!

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As Wikipedia reaches age 18, so do we all get older, life gets busy, tensions rise, and we gain and lose editors. This is especially noticeable during the summer, when the project becomes busier. The project has slowed down in recent years, myself included. I want to do what I can to re-engage editors, which is why I am restarting this newsletter after six years. I don't want to do all of the writing each month, so please contact me if you're interested in doing any of the writing, or if you have ideas for project engagement. The main news month is that there are a lot of new project goals located on the project talk page, so check them out if you have a moment. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:39, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

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March 2019

Information icon I noticed that a message you recently left to Livia Dutra may have been unduly harsh. Please remember not to bite the newcomers. If you see others making a common mistake, consider politely pointing out what they did wrong and showing them how to correct it. It takes more time, but it helps us retain new editors. Thank you. INeedSupport :3 15:36, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@INeedSupport: Sorry if it came across that way, but if you look in the edit history, she was simply reverting and re-adding her content without giving anyone a chance to "accept" her edits. In this case, that warning was needed as she could have simply gotten herself blocked if she continued. Considering she already read and understood the revert reasons, it really wasn't all that harsh as the warning simply asked her to discuss on the talk page rather than simply revert and informed her that she could be blocked if she continued. She needs to know that she can be blocked for doing what she did. It's better to state this outright with policies linked than to type a fancy message that may not even get the full point across. NoahTalk 19:27, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Rollback granted

Hi Hurricane Noah. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

  • Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
  • Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
  • Rollback should never be used to edit war.
  • If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
  • Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! ~ Amory (u • t • c) 23:24, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Muhammed Hafeez

Change the photo please Umert7 (talk) 08:44, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

@Umert7: Im sorry, but the file link you posted contains an image that does not exist. If you would like for someone else to possibly add a new photo, you should leave a message on the Project's talk page first. Be sure to include why you feel the current image is unreasonable. NoahTalk 10:12, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

AfDs

Hi, please follow the rules at WP:FOOLS for AfDs. Thanks, ansh666 19:03, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

RfA

Where's the rule that says I can't remove my own vote? I was hoping to do so quietly. Bradv🍁 14:48, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

@Bradv: Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines#Editing_own_comments says deleted text should be struck out considering your comment has been up for a while. NoahTalk 14:52, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
That doesn't apply here, as no one replied to or quoted my comment. Bradv🍁 14:53, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
@Bradv: "or even if no one's replied but it's been more than a short while" is what I was referring to in this instance. NoahTalk 14:56, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
I suggest you leave judgment calls like that to the 'crats. Bradv🍁 14:58, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Withdrawing a vote any way is fine (striking is preferred to show you switched). Readding someone's removed vote is disallowed (WP:TPO). --QEDK (後 ☕ 桜) 15:21, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Agreed. I'm not going to edit war here, but this should not have been restored. Especially as Noah is clearly not a neutral party. Bradv🍁 15:46, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

@Bradv and QEDK: I'm sorry. I was under the impression that comments/votes could NOT be removed, but rather struck if they no longer applied. Feel free to remove it again if you wish. NoahTalk 16:19, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Unblock request

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Accept reason: I've removed the autoblock from the IP and you should be good to go. Please ping me if you still have issues editing. Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 16:40, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

You might be interested

The Boat Race is on ITNR because of discussions such as [Keep_Removal_proposal:_The_Boat_Race this] and [Closed_(kept)_Proposed_removal:_The_Boat_Race]. Banedon (talk) 04:48, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tropical Storm Carlotta (2018)

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Your GA nomination of Tropical Storm Carlotta (2018)

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test

NoahTalk 23:28, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Re-opened your ITN nom

Dear Hurricane Noah,

I've re-opened the nom for Cyclone Kenneth on ITN (by supporting the blurb), as I believe the event is notable. See for example, the link I provided within my reasons. (I am actually an experienced editor on Wikipedia who has been contributing to ITN for almost 10 years; a few years ago I switched to editing anonymously). 2607:FEA8:1DE0:7B4:7058:BE5D:BAB3:F93C (talk) 06:20, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

April 2019 WPTC Newsletter

Volume XIV, Issue 38, April 13, 2019

The Hurricane Herald is the arbitrarily periodical newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject, in addition to global tropical cyclone activity. The Hurricane Herald has been running since its first edition ran on June 4, 2006; it has been almost thirteen years since that time. If you wish to receive or discontinue subscription to this newsletter, please visit the mailing list. This issue of The Hurricane Herald covers all project related events from February 26–April 13, 2019. This edition's editor and authors are Hurricanehink (talk · contribs) and KN2731 (talk · contribs).

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Storm of the month (Cyclone Idai) and other tropical activity

Cyclone Idai was the deadliest tropical cyclone in the southern hemisphere since 1975, leaving over 1,000 fatalities. It was also the costliest in the South-West cyclone basin, causing $1 billion in damage. Idai paralleled the disaster caused by Cyclone Leon-Eline in 2000, which killed about 700 people along with weeks of preceding floods. Similarly, Idai first struck Mozambique on March 4, moving over land for five days before emerging into the Mozambique Channel. It eventually struck near Beira, Mozambique as an intense tropical cyclone.

Idai was one of a record-breaking nine intense tropical cyclones in the 2018–19 season, four of which occurred since the last newsletter was released in February. The others include Cyclone Haleh, Savannah, and Joaninha. Only Joaninha affected land – the small island of Rodrigues. Savannah entered the basin from the adjacent Austrailan basin, having killed 12 people in Indonesia. In the Australian region, there were two tropical lows, cyclones Trevor and Veronica, as well as the presently active (but dissipating) Wallace. Cyclone Pola, active as of the publication of the previous newsletter, dissipated after affecting islands in the South Pacific. In the western Pacific Ocean, a tropical depression struck the Philippine island of Mindanao.

Outside of the Indian and Pacific Oceans, there was a rare South Atlantic tropical cyclone – Tropical Storm Iba, which lasted for five days off the coast of Brazil. Iba was the first fully tropical cyclone named by Brazilian Navy Hydrographic Center.

New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter in February 2019

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To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on.

Editorial for welcoming new users, by Hurricanehink

Every year, editors new and old help maintain the new season of season articles. The older users are likely used to the standards of the project, such as how to Wikilink and reference properly. Newer users might make mistakes, and they might make them over and over again if they don't know better. If anyone (who happens to read this) comes across a new user, please don't bite, because with enough pushback, they'll decide that this group of editors is too mean, and unfun. This is all a volunteer project, no one can force anyone to do anything. We're all on here because of our love of knowledge and tropical cyclones. If you find someone new, consider using the official WPTC welcome template - Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Welcome.

I also encourage that if you know any tropical cyclone researchers, please speak up and try recruiting them to edit. Veteran editors can't keep editing forever. Life gets busy, and the real world beckons!

Member of the month (edition) – Cyclonebiskit

User:Cyclonebiskit has been editing Wikipedia since 2008, and currently has 28 featured articles or lists, of which 23 were related to tropical cyclones, including Cyclone Waka, Hurricane Katrina tornado outbreak, and the Meteorological history of Hurricane Patricia. Cyclonebiskit also wrote or contributed to 163 GA's. In March 2019, Cyclonebiskit worked alongside Hurricane Noah (the previous member of the month) and other editors to expand the article for Cyclone Idai. Cyclonebiskit logged 118 edits to the storm of the month, and added more than 35 kb of info to the article - together, Hurricane Noah and Cyclonebiskit wrote 71.5% of the article. Thank you Cyclonebiskit for your contributions - happy editing!

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From February 26–April 13, 2019, two featured articles were promoted, becoming the project's first new FA's since 2017:

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As of this issue, there are 149 featured articles and 69 featured lists. There are 141 A-class articles, but that number is subject to change, depending if we mandate that all A-class articles have an A-class review first. There are 948 good articles, meaning it is possible we get to our 1000th GA by the end of the year. There are only 61 B-class articles, perhaps because because most articles of that quality already passed a GA review. There are 357 C-class articles, 717 start-class articles, and 139 stub-class articles, with 28 lists and 8 current articles. The number of lists may decrease further as the "Tropical cyclone X" articles continue to be reclassified as set index articles. These figures mean that nearly half of the project is rated a GA or better - including the lists/current/future articles, there are 1312 articles that are below GA status, versus 1307 that are GA or better. If the project remains productive, then it won't be long before we reach the milestone of having half of the project be rated "good" or better.

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A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Congratulations on your first featured article! Best of luck with any further FA's from the 2018 season. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:22, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: Would you be interested in doing a co-op for Willa? I should have the MH rewritten/updated tonight. NoahTalk 21:18, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
I'm interested. What would you like me to assist with? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:28, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: Main thing I really struggle with is finding preparations (other than the warnings) and filling out the aftermath. I should be able to get the MH updated and expanded on Saturday. I have gotten good at fleshing out the impacts. NoahTalk 21:31, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Comprendo español, pero… thanks to Google translate, I can read Spanish sources. That'll help flesh out the article. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:02, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: Are you in the project discord? NoahTalk 00:29, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
I am not. I should go on there, because I know a lot of project members communicate that way. I just tend to edit at random times, from different computers. When I get some downtime this week, I'll go on Discord. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 13:09, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: Appears you actually are in the chat. I found your username in there. NoahTalk 22:00, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm on IRC #wiki-hurricane occasionally, just not Discord. I'm still not really sure what's different. Anyway, I've been busy IRL, so apologies that I haven't been able to assist yet. You can keep editing in the sandbox if you want, but it looks like you're incorporating that into the Willa article. Keep at it, and I'll help when I get the time. I also have two other projects that are almost done that I'm trying to finish up for the WikiCup, hope you understand. Keep up the good work :) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:22, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: I have been having a hard time with my internet lately (frequent disconnects for extended periods). I am going to try and get Vicente worked on at home and do Willa elsewhere. NoahTalk 14:45, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the edits you've been doing lately! Sorry it took a while to get back, RL has been crazy busy, and sometimes I only have just a few minutes to edit. I'll try to help out with Willa when I can. Were you thinking of getting it to FA, or just GA? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:09, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: I was thinking of going for FA. The MH is complete... we just have to expand the other sections and then update the lead. NoahTalk 22:29, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
OK, then impact and aftermath will require the most work. I'll get on that when I close the 9 other tabs I'm working on. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:48, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Re: Lorna

I'm not too familiar with Lorna. If you want to discuss the storm though, you should do so on the article's talk page, so you can engage in a consensus among fellow editors. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:45, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

IRC

Hey, are you on IRC or Discord by chance? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:32, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: Im on Discord. NoahTalk 00:38, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
That's right, you mentioned that before. Well, say hi to all of the Discord peeps. Happy editing. Also, might I recommend moving the EPAC TS's to List of Eastern Pacific tropical storms (2000–present)? This way you won't have to move it each year. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:42, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: Cut off will be 2020 for that list. I am splitting into a main and three sub articles due to the shear number of TSs. Also, you have a discord account in the chat. NoahTalk 00:52, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Why decide the cutoff now, I'm just saying? If it's gonna be three sub-articles, I'm guessing they'll both be longer than 20 years, considering EPAC goes back to 1949. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:55, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: Im solely basing this on size. Based on the current trend, there will likely be 12-20 more TSs by the time 2020 is over. This TS list would be more than double the size of the Cat 2 list (likely 100-120k), minus the detailed climatology and background. Probably 165-180 on this list alone. Likely going to have close to 400k wrapped up in TSs in total. NoahTalk 01:05, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Well it's your call, and I'll be ready to move the list to include 2019 TS's once Alvin forms. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:19, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: Already moved for 2018-present. Will simply be moved to have an ending year of 2020 in 2020. These lists need to be a priority now considering what happened today. NoahTalk 01:21, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

What happened today? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:24, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: The issue with Nineteen-E. NoahTalk 01:25, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Oh right. I gotta say, I'm impressed that you're still committed to doing all of those lists. It's a lot of editing and referencing, and a thankless job. That's the beauty of eventualism though - eventually you'll see the efforts of your work come to fruition. You'll be able to point to an entire set of articles and take pride in your work. Happy editing and best of luck. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:28, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: Would you mind taking a look at User:Es204L's recent edits? I had already reported him to User:Oshwah, but Oshwah hasn't been here for 3 days. He has continued to change stats without sources and add statements with poor grammar to articles since his "final warning". NoahTalk 01:45, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: Unfortunately, it looks like the A class review thing didn't really go anywhere since they aren't in the article news template. I see there are still several articles pending. NoahTalk 02:28, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
I'd say the review worked pretty well. Raja is on FAC now, and it's better off having gone through the review. Likewise for TD-19E (2018). It depends on reviews, and editors taking care of the reviewers' concerns. Maybe ask for more reviewers from other people in the project? That could help revitalize ACR. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:32, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: I opened an FAC on Carlotta. I plan to resume work on Willa once I finish this specific TS list in a few weeks or so. NoahTalk 01:45, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

I’ll review Carlotta when I get a chance. I’m glad you’re going for FAC again so soon though! Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 11:57, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Nineteen-E (2018) scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that Tropical Depression Nineteen-E (2018) has been scheduled as WP:TFA for 15 May 2019. Please check that the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 15, 2019. Thanks! Ealdgyth - Talk 21:49, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Precious

Pacific hurricanes

Thank you for quality articles around tropical cyclones, such as List of Category 2 Pacific hurricanes, Tropical Depression Nineteen-E (2018) and Hurricane Walaka, for collaboration, - Noah, proud and passionate editor, you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:01, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! What a surprise. I honestly wasn't expecting this. NoahTalk 10:14, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
You are welcome! Looking at the TFA is my first choice, though, but there's rarely a new name, - welcome to the club! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:22, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Awards/gems

I don’t know what you have in mind for the project awards. You should develop your idea. Here are my thoughts. Maybe reward points similar to the WikiCup? I.e. points for featured articles or good articles. I’m not suggesting any sort of system to benefit myself, either. I think it would be a fun way to track trophies/gems, like a green gem (emerald?) for a GA, and Opal/Azurite for FA. I think the project reward system could be a fun way for people to proudly display their FAs/GAs/FLs. Also honor number of edits to an article... idk, how else could we gameify editing... Something with the season articles? Adding a source? Idk. What do you think? Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 01:23, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink mobile: A points system would work best for general awards. I have a list of up to 25 gems in order of rarity that could be used as levels. Points could then determine the level of gem given. Additionally, there could be awards given out based on having a certain number of GAs, FAs, FLs, etc.. and possibly awards granted by a selection committee (similar to how some other wikipedia awards work). NoahTalk 01:35, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

That sounds like a good system. Feel free to write it down when you get a chance. I’m up for anything encouraging editors. Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 03:13, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

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Newsletter

Good work on the newsletter! I think it should be sent out tomorrow to coincide with the start of the hurricane season. There are only a few people signed up for it, but considering it's the first day of hurricane season, maybe we should send the newsletter to basically everyone in the project? What do you think? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 12:34, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

June 2019 WPTC Newsletter

Volume XIV, Issue 39, May 31, 2019

The Hurricane Herald is the arbitrarily periodical newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject, in addition to global tropical cyclone activity. The Hurricane Herald has been running since its first edition ran on June 4, 2006; it has been almost thirteen years since that time. If you wish to receive or discontinue subscription to this newsletter, please visit the mailing list. This issue of The Hurricane Herald covers all project related events from April 14–May 31, 2019. This edition's editor and author is Hurricane Noah (talk · contribs).

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Article of the month, by Jason Rees

History of tropical cyclone naming - The practice of using names to identify tropical cyclones goes back several centuries, with storms named after places, saints or things they hit before the formal start of naming in each basin. The credit for the first usage of personal names for weather systems is given to the Queensland Government Meteorologist Clement Wragge, who named tropical cyclones and anticyclones between 1887 and 1907. This system of naming fell into disuse for several years after Wragge retired, until it was revived in the latter part of World War II for the Western Pacific basin. Over the following decades, various naming schemes have been introduced for the world's oceans, including for parts of the Atlantic, Pacific and the Indian Ocean. The majority of these lists are compiled by the World Meteorological Organization's tropical cyclone committee for the region and include names from different cultures as well as languages. Over the years there has been controversy over the names used at various times, with names being dropped for religious and political reasons. For example, female names were exclusively used in the basins at various times between 1945 - 2000 and were the subject of several protests. The names of significant tropical cyclones in the North Atlantic Ocean, Pacific Ocean and Australian region are retired from the naming lists and replaced with another name, at meetings of the various tropical cyclone committees.

Storm of the month and other tropical activity

Cyclone Fani was an extremely severe cyclonic storm that made landfall in Odisha, India on May 3. The storm achieved peak intensity as a near Category 5-equivalent cyclone with 3-minute sustained winds of 215 km/h (130 mph), 1-minute sustained winds of 250 km/h (155 mph), and a minimum central pressure of 937 hPa (mbar). Fani caused over $1.8 billion (2019 USD) in damage in India and Bangladesh and killed at least 89 people.

Since the last newsletter, twelve systems have formed.

  • Southwest Indian Ocean
    In the Southwest Indian Ocean, Cyclone Kenneth made landfall in Mozambique approximately 1 month after Cyclone Idai, causing widespread flooding and destruction. Overall, Kenneth killed at least 52 people and caused more than $100 million in damage. Additionally, Tropical Cyclone Lorna formed over the eastern portion of the basin in late April and dissipated in early May without affecting land.
  • Australian Region
    In the Australian Region, cyclones Lili and Ann formed in early May and both affected land. No deaths were reported, although Lili caused moderate damage in the Maluku Islands and East Timor.
  • South Pacific
    In the South Pacific, a tropical depression formed in mid-may, but failed to intensify and dissipated a few days later.
  • South Atlantic
    In the South Atlantic, Subtropical Storm Jaguar formed in late May and lasted for approximately two days before becoming extratropical.
  • Western Pacific
    In the Western Pacific, three weak tropical depressions existed during the first half of May.
  • North Atlantic
    In the North Atlantic, Subtropical Storm Andrea formed on the same day as Jaguar, but failed to intensify and dissipated on the next day.




  • The Eastern Pacific hurricane season began on May 15.
  • The Atlantic hurricane season will begin at 2:00 AM EDT on June 1.
  • The Central Pacific hurricane season will begin sometime after 12:00 AM HST on June 1.
Recent storms of the month
Edition Storm
36 Cyclone Idai
35 Typhoon Wutip (2019)

New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter in April 2019

More information can be found here. This list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the release of the last issue in April 2019. Sorted chronologically. Struckout users denote users who have left or have been banned.

To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions!

Editorial for welcoming new users, by Hurricanehink

Every year, editors new and old help maintain the new season of season articles. The older users are likely used to the standards of the project, such as how to Wikilink and reference properly. Newer users might make mistakes, and they might make them over and over again if they don't know better. If anyone (who happens to read this) comes across a new user, please don't bite, because with enough pushback, they'll decide that this group of editors is too mean, and unfun. This is all a volunteer project; no one can force anyone to do anything. We're all on here because of our love of knowledge and tropical cyclones. If you find someone new, consider using the official WPTC welcome template - Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Welcome.

I also encourage that if you know any tropical cyclone researchers, please speak up and try recruiting them to edit. Veteran editors can't keep editing forever. Life gets busy, and the real world beckons!

Member of the month (edition) – Yellow Evan

Yellow Evan has been involved with WPTC since 2008. Since the last newsletter, Yellow Evan has taken 5 typhoon articles to good article status as well as created 2 more. Overall, he has created and/or significantly contributed to more than 130 good articles. Your work in the Western Pacific Basin is invaluable... Thank you for your contributions!

Latest WikiProject Alerts

The following are the latest article developments as updated by AAlertBot, as of the publishing of this issue. Due to the bot workings, some of these updates may seem out of place; nonetheless, they are included here.

Featured article candidates

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Good article reassessments

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Featured Content

This section lists content that have become featured, articles and lists, since the past newsletter in mid-April 2019.
From April 14–May 31, 2019, 1 featured article was promoted:

WikiProject Tropical Cyclones: News & Developments

  • An awards program for the project began on May 31. It involves 25 levels that may be gained by earning points for completing various actions such as getting good or featured articles. Additional awards will be added in the future.
  • As of this news letter, there are more articles ranked a good article or better (1317) than articles ranked B-class or worse (1272), for the first time in the project's history.
  • Every Atlantic hurricane season from 1945 to 2007 is rated at least a GA. That is an impressive feat, and an incredibly body of work among many editors.
  • Cyclone Raja became the 150th featured article in the project. Thanks to all of the editors and their tireless edits for writing 2.7% of all of Wikipedia's featured articles.
  • In the 24 hours after Hurricane Michael's TCR was released, the article on the hurricane was edited 82 times by 18 different users.
  • In March 2019, the most popular article in the project was Cyclone Idai, viewed 231,969 times during the month. The generic cyclone was 2nd most popular, with 131,080 views. In 3rd place was Hurricane Katrina with 112,283 views. Included in the top 20 were the 2018 and 19 Atlantic hurricane seasons, hurricanes Michael, Florence, Irma, Maria, and Harvey, and the 1896 Cedar Keys hurricane, which was TFA on March 20th.

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As of this issue, there are 150 featured articles and 69 featured lists. There are 142 A-class articles, but that number is subject to change, depending if we mandate that all A-class articles have an A-class review first. There are 956 good articles, meaning it is possible we get to our 1000th GA by the end of the year. There are only 61 B-class articles, perhaps because because most articles of that quality already passed a GA review. There are 350 C-class articles, 720 start-class articles, and 141 stub-class articles, with 29 lists and 8 current articles. The number of lists may decrease further as the "Tropical cyclone X" articles continue to be reclassified as set index articles. These figures mean that nearly half of the project is rated a GA or better - including the lists/current/future articles, there are 1272 articles that are below GA status, versus 1317 that are GA or better.

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NoahTalk 22:31, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:United States Presidential Cabinet

Template:United States Presidential Cabinet has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Frietjes (talk) 15:46, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/1900 Galveston hurricane/archive1

Hello, Hurricane Noah. I noticed you left some comments on the FAC for the 1900 Galveston hurricane. I want to ask for some clarification about one of those comments. The one in question is this: "Watch your significant figures. Some values need more places and others less." Am I right in assuming that you want me to take another look at how I'm rounding the units of measure? If this is correct, I might be willing to do that. However, I noticed that you didn't exactly do that with Carlotta and neither myself nor anyone else mentioned that in the FAC for Carlotta. Please correct me if I misinterpreted your comment. Thanks for commenting, by the way--12george1 (talk) 19:40, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

No wait, I think I see what you're talking about. You mean like how I have 17 ft (5 m) in one sentence and 17 ft (5.2 m) in another sentence?--12george1 (talk) 19:46, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
@12george1: Yes... 17 has 2 sig figs, so it should be 5.2 in the conversion. In other places, you have too many sig figs. All has to do with the official rules set by the people who maintain the SI unit thingamajigger. I found out in Chemistry 1100 and Physics 1201 that rounded off values are incorrect. When converting from imperial to metric, you multiply by a number (every inch is 2.54 cm for example). The number with the least sig figs determines the number of sig figs in the converted value. Please note that exact numbers do not follow sig fig rules and therefore have indefinite significant figures (examples are 12 in = 1 ft or 100 years in a century). NoahTalk 22:50, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Re: Awards

First off, congrats on Carlotta passing, and good luck on Rosa. I’ll review after I’ve finished a review for 1900 Galveston (need to do spot checks).

As for the awards, you still have some rare/common elements that would work for the awards, like Gold, Silver, Platinum, Nickel, Copper, Iron, Silicon, Yttrium, Darmstadtium, Meitnerium, etc. (kinda kidding about last two, but maybe pick a really obscure element). Or I guess if we’re being technical, maybe it should be the elements that make up the atmosphere, so Nitrogen, Oxygen, Argon, Carbon Dioxide, Hydrogen, Neon, Helium, etc. What do you think would work? Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 13:19, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: Rosa has been withdrawn and archived as there were some serious issues that I more or less read over when I looked at it. Apparently, the issues are so bad they would warrant a good article reassessment if not fixed. Sometimes you miss the flaws in your own work or don't catch when others make changes. As for the awards, I don't know how the atmosphere ones would work, but that could be interesting. NoahTalk 14:13, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Ah, sorry to hear about Rosa, but keep in mind, FAC should be for the articles of the utmost highest quality. I have a queue of articles I intend to nom, but I know there will be a lot of tiny things I have to address before I do so. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:54, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink:Well, I likely will have a new featured nomination soon... whenever I finish it. NoahTalk 18:18, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

A small request

Hi there Noah. I was wondering if you would be able to have a read through of the article on Cyclone Nora that I wrote. I put a lot of time and effort into that article, and I just want to know if there is any chance that it might pass a GA assessment if I were to nominate it. If not, are there any obvious things that need fixing? ChocolateTrain (talk) 01:43, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

@ChocolateTrain: Okay, I will take a look tomorrow (June 14 for me). NoahTalk 01:52, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
@Hurricane Noah: Thank you! ChocolateTrain (talk) 13:04, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

EPAC TS’s 2000–present

Congrats and great work for getting another list done! I’ll review it for FLC when I get a chance. I’m really surprised and proud that you’ve done so well sticking to that set of articles. Just another few hundred storms to add for the next sandbox? No pressure, you’ll do fine 😜 Hurricanehink mobile (talk) 12:32, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: Actually, it is slightly less than the one I just nominated. However, the 1949–1979 one will be over 15% larger than the one I just nominated, but you won't be able to tell byte-wise due to lack of TCRs. I will create the main article once these child articles are all done so I can make summary sections for each one. The pre-1949 TSs and landfalls will be the only ones appearing in table format on the main article. NoahTalk 14:35, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
By main article, what sort of title were you thinking? List of Pacific hurricanes by intensity? You could save the time and just make it part of Pacific hurricane. Granted, that could also include off-season storms and retired storms. The article is start-class, sure, but it's well-cited, and mostly it's just disorganized. Just an idea, not sure how you're planning to cap off this epic project, but it's exciting that it's almost done! Really good work all around :) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:38, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink:By main article, I meant "List of Eastern Pacific tropical storms"... just a main article in terms of tropical storms. Also, for the list I just started, I didn't list any deaths for TS Elida '96 since the source is not working. The title says "Hurricane Marty" on the reference which makes me doubt it. The main page for the data site is archived, but I can't get past that. The 6 deaths simply are unverifiable. Anyways, I am looking forward to your review for the 2000–present list. NoahTalk 16:40, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Do you think such an article is needed? I imagine it would be more of a dab page. As for Elida, the reference in question is {{EM-DAT}}. I think it lists Marty because the reference was used on the Marty article. It's basically a worldwide disaster database. They restricted access, but someone in the project might have access. @Jason Rees:? @Yellow Evan:? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:10, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
I have indeed got access to EM-DAT - its a free database that anyone can register to use AFAIK.Jason Rees (talk) 18:55, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, Hink is correct here re: Elida. YE Pacific Hurricane 20:39, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink:Yes, the article is needed. It will provide the full background and climatology, overview sections for all the lists, and information on all the landfalls. Additionally, I plan on the article having the pre-1949 storms on it unless you think that should be separate. NoahTalk 17:21, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure the pre-1949 storms should be included, since it won't be verified whether they are tropical storms or hurricanes, or just tropical cyclones of unknown intensity. I have wondered about a singular list of the storms before the official database, such as in the Atlantic. I'm not sure if such a list is needed - after all, there's no way it could ever be complete. I don't think the people at Good/Featured Topic would oppose if the lists were limited to the official database. That being said, I suppose you could do a singular article for just EPAC tropical storms, but I still think you could include all of that, including climatology and background, in the parent article Pacific hurricane. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:23, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

@Hurricanehink: Could you please delete both the 2000–present and 1980–1999 lists? NoahTalk 16:59, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Hiya Noah. I can't delete the 2000-present list, because you weren't the only editor, but you can redirect the article to the main page if you want. I can delete the 1980-99 one though - are you all done with that one? ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:43, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
@Hurricanehink: I already merged all the info in I needed. I thought the deletion rule pertained to substantial contributions. That wouldn't include a user marking it as patrolled (with a short list description) and someone else correcting a minor mistake. Edit: Both have been speedily deleted. NoahTalk 17:48, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
Ah nice. Yea I always err on the side of safety with the deletion rule, but I'm glad the other admin took care of it. Thanks for putting them all in the same article. I know it'll be huge, but I think Wikipedia will be better off for having it all in the same article. It'll be a model for other basins :) ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 13:47, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Lawsuits against God

Hi! nice to meet you I noticed we have some of the same friends ~ don't ask me how I got your number ~ but give G~d a break ~ water damage ~mitch~ (talk) 01:56, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Season effects table for Australian region

Hi again Noah. The reason I developed a new table for the season effects section of the Australian region is because the current one has several issues. Firstly, most storms usually take up more than one line which makes the table unnecessarily long, especially when there are 20 to 30 systems per year, many of which are only tropical lows. The first thing which needs to be changed is units being included in the columns. It is a scientific convention of tables that the name of the unit should be only included in the title row of each column, and numbers only in the actual data cells (like what is done in the hurricane season tables). AUD really is not needed in the table, as Australia is not the only country in the region, and any Australian dollar damage totals can simply be mentioned in-text in order to save space in the table. Several of the column titles can also be streamlined to save space. It is also really archaic and unnecessary to be using inches of mercury in that table. Hectopascals is completely sufficient. I am fine with mph still being included as it is used in several countries, but inHg just wastes space. Again, it is fine for inHg to be included in-text in the article sections, but where space is at a premium in the season effects table, I think it should be left out. References also should not need to be included in the table, as all the information in that table has already been referenced in the article sections, and duplicate references are not required. If they absolutely must be included (which really they should not), the reference column does not need a title, as again this often takes up more horizontal space than the references themselves, making it more likely that a given storm would take up more lines than needed in the table. Additionally, the current template is an absolute nightmare to edit in Visual Editor. It often takes 5 seconds or more to simply open because of how many transclusions there are within the table, and the way the data is displayed in the Visual Editor when editing is cumbersome, confusing and slow to navigate. As you can hopefully see, the current table really has several areas which need improvement. The new table that I made fixes all of these issues. ChocolateTrain (talk) 15:45, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hey @ChocolateTrain:, I will jump in and respond here as I feel I can respond better than Noah. 1) I am not going to disagree that the SE Charts need improvement and I feel that some of your chart is worth adding to the various templates. However, there is no way that ACE is going in unless you can find a source from the BoM that gives us a total for the whole season. 2) The column titles are something I have struggled with over the years, as we have 10-min winds, 3-min winds, 1 min winds and gusts that could be represented by a table. Should it be peak classification or category? Personally, I feel peak classification reflects things better than category. 3) The reference column will be staying as it is needed for the benefit of our readers who will not always read a storms summary for damage totals etc, especially in Aus and PTS where we have 29 systems a year. It is also useful for us as we can tell in an instance where a damage total has come from rather than trying to locate the original source when we have IPs change the damage total or need to copy systems upwards. 4) If AUD isnt needed then I am happy to drop it and redirect the template to the Pacific areas affected template. 5) While working on Aus 5, I noticed that you need to become more broad with the areas affected. There is no point in saying that QLD, NT and WA were all affected when Northern Australia would suffice. There were also one or two cases where there were no areas directly affected by a system so that would save some space in theory. 6) There isnt a lot i can say about Visual Editor as i don't use it but in way im glad its harder to edit as it would saves vandalism. 7) I need to check the MoS about conversions as i have a feeling that we are required to convert but to what extent i dont know. 8) I would rather make any changes globally and make sure we are using the same templates.Jason Rees (talk) 20:41, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
@ChocolateTrain: I reverted you because you had no consensus to make such a change. Even if the current template is wrong, you need a consensus to make the change as this affects several articles. You would need to make sure everything you are changing is okay and get a consensus to decommission the existing template if you are no longer planning on having it transcluded. NoahTalk 23:58, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

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your reversion on Typhoon Lekima (2019)?S Philbrick(Talk) 16:13, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick: 20:21, August 11, 2019‎ Hurricane Noah talk contribs‎ 11,467 bytes +2,474‎ Undid revision 910333244 by 219.78.191.165 (talk) Vandalism Tags: Undo, PHP7... most edits from this point onwards have been redacted. That means edits before the IP removed the info need to be redacted as well. NoahTalk 16:16, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Hurricane Noah, I didn't follow that, but I think I've taken care of it. S Philbrick(Talk) 16:17, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
@Sphilbrick: It looks fine now. I would have asked for temp extended protection had I known about the serious copy vios, but it's too late for that now. NoahTalk 16:20, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Question

I want to ask why the deaths and the $400 million damage are unrelated to Sergio? --A1Cafel (talk) 09:38, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

@A1Cafel: They were caused by an unusually powerful cold front that passed through Texas days after Sergio did. NoahTalk 10:44, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

barnstar

The E=mc² Barnstar
Hurricane Sergio (2018) is just fantastic, as are the rest of your weather-related contributions. Chetsford (talk) 05:58, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

@Chetsford: Thank you, I'm glad you like it. NoahTalk 14:31, 16 August 2019 (UTC)


38th edition of The Hurricane Herald

Volume XIV, Issue 38, August 1, 2019

The Hurricane Herald is the arbitrarily periodical newsletter of WikiProject Tropical Cyclones. The newsletter aims to provide in summary the recent activities and developments of the WikiProject, in addition to global tropical cyclone activity. The Hurricane Herald has been running since its first edition ran on June 4, 2006; it has been almost thirteen years since that time. If you wish to receive or discontinue subscription to this newsletter, please visit the mailing list. This issue of The Hurricane Herald covers all project related events from June 1–July 31, 2019. This edition's editor and author is ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) .

Please visit this page and bookmark any suggestions of interest to you. This will help improve the newsletter and other cyclone-related articles. Past editions can be viewed here.

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Storm of the month and other tropical activity

Hurricane Barry was the wettest tropical storm on record in Arkansas, and one of only four hurricanes to strike Louisiana in July. Originating from a trough over the southeastern United States, Barry formed on July 11 off the southeast Louisiana coast. Despite wind shear and an asymmetrical structure, the storm intensified into a minimal hurricane before making landfall near Intracoastal City, Louisiana. Barry dropped heavy rainfall from the Gulf of Mexico to the Ohio Valley, peaking at 23.43 in (595 mm) near Ragley, Louisiana. The storm caused flooding rains, power outages, and one death due to rip currents. Damage totaled over US$500 million.

  • The Atlantic hurricane season, and the Central Pacific hurricane season, began on June 1. The 2019-20 tropical cyclone year in the Southern Hemisphere began on July 1 in the South-West Indian Ocean, Australian region, and South Pacific.
  • Since the last newsletter, 18 other systems have formed worldwide, in addition to Barry.
  • Western Pacific
    In the Western Pacific, Tropical Storm Sepat in June passed near Japan and was classified as a subtropical storm by the JTWC. In early July, Tropical Storm Mun killed two people when it struck Vietnam. Tropical Storm Danas formed near the Philippines and moved northward, later crossing the Korean peninsula. Toward the end of July, Tropical Storm Nari moved across Japan as a tropical depression, and Tropical Storm Wipha struck southern China. There were also three tropical depressions, one of which the JTWC classified as a tropical storm.
  • Eastern Pacific
    After the latest start of a hurricane season since 1971, activity in the basin began on June 25 when Hurricane Alvin formed off the southwest coast of Mexico. Hurricane Barbara became a strong Category 4 hurricane, and its remnants later caused power outages in Hawaii. Tropical Storm Cosme, Tropical Depression Four-E, Tropical Storm Dalila, and hurricanes Erick, and Flossie also formed in July southwest of Mexico.
  • Atlantic
    Short-lived Tropical Depression Three formed near the Bahamas and dissipated east of Florida in late July
  • North Indian Ocean
  • Cyclone Vayu was a powerful cyclone that threatened western India, but stalled and weakened significantly before moving ashore. The storm killed eight people, and lashed western India with heavy rainfall and high tides.
  • South-West Indian Ocean
Recent storms of the month
Edition Storm
37 Cyclone Kenneth
36 Cyclone Idai
35 Typhoon Wutip (2019)

Member of the month (edition) – TheAustinMan

TheAustinMan has been involved with WPTC since 2009. Since the last newsletter, TheAustinMan worked on the Storm of the Month (Barry), as well as 1915 Galveston hurricane, Typhoon Alice (1979), 1937 Atlantic hurricane season, 1944 Jamaica hurricane, and the 1944 Cuba–Florida hurricane. A prolific editor, TheAustinMan has contributed to three featured articles and 46 good articles. Thank you for your contributions!

New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter in June/July 2019

More information can be found here. This list lists members who have joined/rejoined the WikiProject since the release of the last issue in May 2019. Sorted chronologically. Struckout users denote users who have left or have been banned.

To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions!

Current assessment table

Assessments valid as of this printing. Depending on when you may be viewing this newsletter, the table may be outdated. See here for the latest, most up to date statistics.
As of this issue, there are 152 featured articles and 70 featured lists. There are 142 A-class articles, but that number is subject to change, depending if we mandate that all A-class articles have an A-class review first. There are 961 good articles, meaning it is possible we get to our 1000th GA by the end of the year. There are only 62 B-class articles, perhaps because because most articles of that quality already passed a GA review. There are 363 C-class articles, 717 start-class articles, and 141 stub-class articles, with 26 lists and 9 current articles. The number of lists may decrease further as the "Tropical cyclone X" articles continue to be reclassified as set index articles. These figures mean that more than half of the project is rated a GA or better - including the lists/current/future articles, there are 1283 articles that are below GA status, versus 1325 that are GA or better.

About the assessment scale →

Sourcing guidelines, by TheAustinMan

The core content policies on Wikipedia (neutral point of view, no original research, and verifiability) all apply to articles tagged by WikiProject Tropical cyclones. The project's style guidelines also provide information on how to cite sources effectively. Relevant guidelines discussing the WikiProject's tropical meteorology articles may also be found at WP:SCICITE and WP:SCIRS.

Reports, bulletins, and other products issued by Regional Specialized Meteorological Centers are the authoritative source on meteorological information pertaining to tropical cyclones in their respective basins. This includes both quantitative and qualitative information about a storm's characteristics, including intensities, durations, and locations. The most recent post-storm assessments take precedence over operational data. Thus, post-season revisions to a storm's "best track" file, new information presented in a tropical cyclone report, or official database adjustments made by the Atlantic hurricane reanalysis project, or other official reanalyses supersede operational information where they disagree. Data in operational RSMC products can still be used if later data does not dispute them. Information from other public agencies can also be used, but generally require in-text attribution. While the original best track data from meteorological agencies is a reliable source and can be referenced, readers often find difficulty interpreting them. Consider using IBTrACS, a more easily understandable track database, which is endorsed by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO), for this information. Because the Automated Tropical Cyclone Forecasting System (ATCF) used by the Joint Typhoon Warning Center and National Hurricane Center is liable to change frequently in realtime, they should not be used for currently active storms. Forecasts from these agencies and RSMCs should only be used to cite the forecasts themselves; in other words, they can only be used to describe what was expected to occur, and never to describe what did occur.

Maps and other graphics published by meteorological agencies may be used to describe events (see the associated essay). However, they should only be referenced if they are explicit in conveying the supported information and do not require any rigorous meteorological interpretation (such as satellite analysis or drawing conclusions over what the arrangement of meteorological features represents). In general, self-published sources should not be used as sources for present or historical storm intensities. However, information contained in articles from reliable sources or commentary from established tropical cyclone experts can be used as sources for information not covered by WMO-endorsed agencies. If such sources dispute WMO-endorsed meteorological data, commentary on the disputed information may be used, making sure to attribute claims and giving due weight.

Storm effects are typically referenced with a wide array of published sources. These may include news organizations, risk assessment organizations, non-governmental organizations (NGO), government agencies, and impact databases. So long as they are reliable sources, they can be used as references for tropical cyclone impacts. Note that figures from early impact reports, often disseminated by the first NGO situation reports and news reports, may quickly be outdated in light of newer information. When sourcing damage totals or casualty figures, use the most recent value from a reliable source, as these values tend to be more stable and use more up-to-date information. If such figures are disputed by other reliable sources, this should be noted in the article, making sure to attribute claims and giving due weight. Routine calculations of damage and casualty figures (for instance, adding casualties from different countries) are acceptable as long as they arise from reliable sources.

Latest WikiProject Alerts

The following are the latest article developments as updated by AAlertBot, as of the publishing of this issue. Due to the bot workings, some of these updates may seem out of place; nonetheless, they are included here.

Featured article candidates

Featured list candidates

Good article nominees

Good article reassessments

Peer reviews

Requested moves

Articles to be merged

Articles to be split

From the Main Page

From the Main Page documents WikiProject related materials that have appeared on the main page from April 14–May 31, 2019 in chronological order.

Today's Featured Article
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History of WikiProject Tropical cyclones

The article for hurricane (tropical cyclone) was created on December 2, 2001. On October 3, 2002, User:Ed Poor created an article for Hurricane Lili while the storm was active and near peak intensity; since then, 163 other people have edited the article to help make it a . In March 2004, User:BigT27 created an article for the hyperactive 1995 Atlantic hurricane season, then the 3rd most-active Atlantic hurricane season on record. On August 14 of that year, an article was created for Hurricane Iniki, the first non-Atlantic storm, and on August 31, the 1900 Galveston hurricane became the first TC-related . On October 4, 2004, Cyclone Tracy became featured, which was the 2nd FA in the project. A week later, User:Golbez created the article for 2004 Pacific hurricane season, which was the first season article for the EPAC.

On May 19, 2005, User:Tom created Template:Infobox Hurricane, which standardized the infobox that appears in every storm article. On July 20, User:Skywayman created the article for the 2005 Pacific typhoon season, which became the third basin to get season articles. On July 31, User:Holderca1 created the article for 2004-05 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season – for the first several years on Wikipedia, the SHEM was handled in a singular article, but was split into SWIO, AUS, and SPAC beginning on April 16, 2007, and finished on April 21, 2013. During the hyperactive 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, articles were created quickly for the most powerful storms, including Hurricane Dennis which quickly became an FA.

On August 26, 2005, User:CrazyC83 created an article for Hurricane Katrina after the legendary storm crossed over southern Florida. By two days later, there were 500 edits to the article, and the hurricane was threatening to hit New Orleans as a Category 4 or 5. We now know it was “only” a Category 3 at landfall. In the 14 years since Katrina, there have been 6,327 editors to the Hurricane Katrina article, along with 23 sub-articles. During the 2005 season, there were debates among editors whether lesser notable storms, like Hurricane Cindy (2005), should have articles. At one point in 2006, there were articles for every named storm during the 2005 AHS, but in the 13 years since then, articles for tropical storms Franklin, Harvey, and Lee, and Philippe were created and merged. As a way to coordinate edits among the tropical cyclone pages, User:Jdorje created Template:Hurricane on September 12, 2005. This is the same template that appears on the talk pages for every article in the WPTC. On October 5, Jdorje officially created WP:WPTC, the tropical cyclone WikiProject. That October, in quick succession, the Atlantic hurricane seasons reached back to the beginning of recordkeeping (before 1600s) due to a collaboration of several editors; User:RattleMan created the first season article for the North Indian Ocean; User:Miss Madeline successfully nominated List of California hurricanes for featured list; and Jdorje created a a standardized storm path template.

In 2006, a series of users improved articles worldwide to featured article status. Professional met David Roth joined the project, and in the same year, the NOAA and NHC copied some material from Wikipedia, including track maps, and the Tropical Cyclone Report for Tropical Storm Chris (2006). In June 2006, User:Nilfanion created the project assessment page, which documents the status of every article, organized by basin, the year, and storm shaded by the quality. On August 1, the chat room on IRC for the project was created, which allowed real-time communication among editors. There’s something special about conversing with fellow weather geeks during an epic storm, which seems to have become all the more common. On January 1, 2007, the number of good articles in the project reached 100. On January 29th, a collaboration of users made the List of retired Pacific hurricane names the first featured topic in the project. It was joined by the 2003 Atlantic hurricane season in March 2007.

In 2008, further collaborations helped make the article for tropical cyclone a featured article, one of 100 FA’s in the project. Notably among project members, Tropical Storm Erick (2007) became featured on December 14, 2008. The storm lasted for a short amount of time over open waters, and as such, it was the shortest featured article anywhere on Wikipedia. Users questioned whether the storm was notable enough to have such a detailed article, but the article described the storm in articulate detail. After an AFD and two featured article review (and a series of low-notability storms being merged), Erick was delisted as a featured article on March 2, 2013. In the period from 2008 to 2013, users created task forces for various basins, articles for all of the seasons in the Atlantic and EPAC, and enough high-quality articles that more than half of all storm/season articles were good or featured articles. In January 2008, there were 1000 articles in the entire project. On January 1, 2014, User:Yellow Evan created Typhoon Nancy (1982), which was the 2000th article in the project. In October 2008, there were 100 FA’s in the project, which reached 200 on November 28, 2015, with Hurricane Fay (2014). By March 2016, every basin had at least 100 storm articles, multiple featured articles, and season articles of various quality.

Featured Content

This section lists content that have become featured, articles and lists, since the past newsletter in mid-April 2019.
From June 1–July 31, 2019, one featured article and one featured list was promoted:

WikiProject Tropical Cyclones: News & Developments

New articles since the last newsletter include:

New GA's include:

WikiProject To-Do


Here are some tasks you can do:

Project Goals & Progress

The following is the current progress on the three milestone goals set by the WikiProject as of this publishing. They can be found, updated, at the main WikiProject page.

August 2019

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Tropical Storm Dorian (2019), you may be blocked from editing. If you believe the article should be deleted, nominate it at WP:AFD. Edit warring to blank the page is extremely disruptive. ‑Scottywong| [converse] || 03:39, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

@Scottywong: It is problematic when new users create articles for storms that aren't deserving due to lack of notability. AfD is not the proper venue for these articles as a redirect is needed. I explicitly told that user to make a draft then wait and see if the impacts were severe enough before making an article (on his talkpage). We don't need a duplicate of content in 2019 Atlantic hurricane season#Tropical Storm Dorian. As for the explanation I gave, WP:TOOSOON is good enough for storms that may have impact in a few days, but haven't yet done much. We have criteria that need to be met in order for an article to be created. That simply hasn't been satisfied at this time due to lack of land impact. There really isn't much in that article and the content that is there is bloated (Also other massive issues). Keep in mind NOT ONE, BUT TWO of us reverted the article and more agreed that the storm was not deserving of an article (I would be willing to get them if you need the proof). NoahTalk 10:44, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
I'm not commenting on whether or not the article should be deleted, I haven't even read it and it doesn't matter. The point is that you can't just go around replacing someone's work with a redirect, especially when you've already tried to replace it with a redirect once and you were quickly reverted. Replacing the content of an article with a redirect is the same as deleting the article. Wikipedia has procedures for deleting articles: WP:CSD, WP:PROD, WP:AFD. If you try to blank the article and someone reverts you, the next appropriate step is to either start a discussion on a talk page (the user's talk page or the article's talk page), or nominate the article at AFD. Trying to repeatedly blank the article is disruptive, it amounts to edit warring, and you'll eventually get blocked for it. ‑Scottywong| [converse] || 13:55, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

It's also good to remind of Article Guidelines, Hurricanes, typhoons etc should only receive a separate article if they are long enough not to be considered a stub. If there isn't enough to write about, the text can go inside the article for the hurricane season. When creating a new article for an active storm when it may or may not be appropriate (i.e. a major hurricane currently threatening land), it is generally best to put a request up in the discussion for that hurricane season (e.g. Talk:2017 Atlantic hurricane season) and discuss it with others. However, we would also encourage you to be bold and make the article if you think it is notable or is very likely to become notable within 72 hours.

I say this as just looking up the notability of storms after it's been a while. – The Grid (talk) 16:43, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

And, 3 days after the article was created, the storm became a hurricane, and now it's national news. ‑Scottywong| [gossip] || 15:16, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
@Scottywong: Every storm near the US is national news regardless of intensity. It happened to turn early and miss Hispaniola and Puerto Rico, which allowed it to become very strong. We aren't fortune tellers. Just because it is newsworthy does not substantiate notability. As a project, we ended the days of every storm getting an article. The storm has to actually do something to deserve an article. At that time, the requirements were not satisfied. Wyatt prematurely created the article. No article should be posted with such minimal content available. I had him create a draft and the situation was resolved by the time A1 decided to report it. A1 got full protection on a page once when a dispute had been resolved at least 12 hours prior, which caused a headache since nobody could update it with storm information. NoahTalk 02:01, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar.

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank You for the message on my talk page. I do still feel sad, but you kind of made me feel a little better. Though it is still devestating to think what those people are going through. I really would like to thank you, Noah. Wyatt2049 | (Talk) or (Stalk) 13:40, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Also, see the message I left on User Talk:Jasper Deng for a prayer. Pray for those people. --Wyatt2049 | (Talk) or (Stalk) 13:40, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Hurricane Dorian

Thanks
I was wondering where you were at ~ ~mitch~ (talk) 02:40, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Nomination

Hello, Noah! I know that you may be surprised by what I may say, But none of the following message is a typo. So. I think that you are great editor, and you have done many many contributions. You seem to have combated vandalism and have requested the protection of pages and have gone through. For these reasons, I would like to nominate you for Requests for adminship. I think that you will make a great admin. Let me know if you support the nomination, and I should create you an RFA page. --Wyatt2049 | (Talk) or (Stalk) 17:43, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

@Wyatt2049: While I have done a decent amount of work in content creation, I would be brutally ripped apart in a RfA for my overall lack of work elsewhere. I quite simply would not stand a chance at adminship. NoahTalk 19:07, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
Still though, I think your a great editor, and you should keep going. You can do it! --Wyatt2049 | (Talk) or (Stalk) 19:33, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
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