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[edit]- Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User_is_threatening_to_report_me_for_simply_adding_relevant_Wikiproject_tag_to_talk_page
- Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_LGBT_studies#Imane_Khelif
- Talk:Imane_Khelif#WikiProject_LGBT_studies Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:42, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- You are correct, I just read that whole thread and then spent half of the subsequent shower winning a talk page argument against a couple of shampoo bottles. Honestly, I think Wikipedia talk pages are high in the running for the worst possible communication medium on the planet -- maybe "smoke signal" and "message in a bottle" are worse. You can't show people non-CC-licensed images, you can't link to sources if someone thinks the website is bad, you can't categorize the articles in any scheme that has the potential to bother anyone. It's hardly surprising that for twenty years people have been running entire parallel communities on IRC and Discord and Slack and mailing lists: talk pages are borderline unusable. jp×g🗯️ 22:03, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- Also any comment you make (even if you edit it a couple minutes later) is perpetually preserved in amber so that if you get in an unrelated argument with anybody over any subject for the rest of your life they can link to the time you were having a bad day in 2003 and called some guy an assclown as irrefutable evidence of longrunning conduct issues jp×g🗯️ 22:05, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- You are correct, I just read that whole thread and then spent half of the subsequent shower winning a talk page argument against a couple of shampoo bottles. Honestly, I think Wikipedia talk pages are high in the running for the worst possible communication medium on the planet -- maybe "smoke signal" and "message in a bottle" are worse. You can't show people non-CC-licensed images, you can't link to sources if someone thinks the website is bad, you can't categorize the articles in any scheme that has the potential to bother anyone. It's hardly surprising that for twenty years people have been running entire parallel communities on IRC and Discord and Slack and mailing lists: talk pages are borderline unusable. jp×g🗯️ 22:03, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Boo
[edit]Is there a way to un-thank for an edit? AviationFreak💬 19:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- @AviationFreak: I thought this one was for the one that makes the pretentious New Yorker ‹The template Newyorkerize is being considered for deletion.› diæresis dots on stuff that I also made today. Oh well!!!! jp×g🗯️ 03:02, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Newyorkerize
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Template:Newyorkerize has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Svampesky (talk) 03:22, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Svampesky: Are you aware that the diæresis is a part of the English language? This seems like either an issue with providing metadata in the template or improving accessibility software -- not really a thing that can be fixed at TfD. jp×g🗯️ 04:39, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- To be fair, I didn't realize I was nominating it for deletion on a page called 'Templates for discussion'. I thought it functioned to pool editors in one place, especially as templates are more technical. The section header
Nomination for deletion of Template:Newyorkerize
was a template. I hope the"mods on the Wikimedia discord server"
don't find out about this! Svampesky (talk) 13:56, 6 August 2024 (UTC) - I erroneously filed it thinking it was a place to pool editors and discuss. How do I withdraw it and move the discussion to the talk page? Svampesky (talk) 16:48, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- To be fair, I didn't realize I was nominating it for deletion on a page called 'Templates for discussion'. I thought it functioned to pool editors in one place, especially as templates are more technical. The section header
Administrators' newsletter – August 2024
[edit]News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2024).
Technical news
- Global blocks may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may locally unblock when appropriate.
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During what I assume was a script error when moving Environmental effects of aviation, it seems the talk pages have turned into a redirect loop with no significant history under either. Was the actual page potentially accidentally deleted at Talk:Environmental impactEnvironmental effects of aviation without being moved? or has it ended up somewhere else? Aidan9382 (talk) 14:19, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- It looks like JPxG tried moving the pages back, but only moved the articles (not the talk pages), before they deleted both, as you've guessed, yeah. This was posted at WP:ANI#Environmental impact of bitcoin and appears to have been fixed. – 2804:F1...F5:208E (talk) 00:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
It appears your script run broke dozen of talk pages
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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.
See WP:ANI#Environmental impact of bitcoin. Another admin is looking into restoring the broken deleted pages. Raladic (talk) 21:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
Ramsdell
[edit]Hi there, the article has been restored per consensus at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 July 27. Will leave you to remove the CCI template if that's OK? Daniel (talk) 04:07, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
"Template:Bruh" listed at Redirects for discussion
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The redirect Template:Bruh has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 9 § Template:Bruh until a consensus is reached. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 04:40, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
The redirect 2028 United States presidential election has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 11 § 2028 United States presidential election until a consensus is reached. GTrang (talk) 03:58, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-33
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- AbuseFilter editors and maintainers can now make a CAPTCHA show if a filter matches an edit. This allows communities to quickly respond to spamming by automated bots. [3]
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Quarry
[edit]I've finished my report for the Signpost and I'm adding finishing touches. I joined Quarry, but I'm unsure how to run a query. I need to find the longest-running move discussion based on time duration. What would be the code for that? Svampesky (talk) 11:12, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe JPxG has more detailed advice here, but generally speaking WP:QUARRY is always a good place to ask this kind of question. Regards, HaeB (talk) 15:27, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 14 August 2024
[edit]- In the media: Portland pol profile paid for from public purse
- In focus: Twitter marks the spot
- News and notes: Another Wikimania has concluded
- Special report: Nano or just nothing: Will nano go nuclear?
- Opinion: HouseBlaster's RfA debriefing
- Traffic report: Ball games, movies, elections, but nothing really weird
- Humour: I'm proud to be a template
Two articles in the signpost still have the draft template
[edit]Hey, I just noticed these two Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/In focus and Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-08-14/Opinion still have the draft template at the top, but the newsletter has already gone out to people, so just wanted to let you know :) Raladic (talk) 22:56, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Lots of fiddling with two of your user pages
[edit]I hope by this point that you trust my intentions, because I sure had to fiddle with User talk:JPxG/index and related pages a bunch to get the combination of {{database report}}, Linter, and my tribe of Linter-obsessed gnomes to align around the formatting of those pages. I had to hack the table format a bit, so now you have a table within a table (not ideal, but it works). I hope that you don't mind, and sorry for the notifications. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:43, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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Signpost essay column
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I reworked this from WikiProject Orphanage. This could be placed on the newsroom talk page. Someone presses it five times, and then by a poll on the newsroom talk page to decide which essay to include in the next issue, to encourage readers to improve it. Svampesky (talk) 18:08, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- It might be a bad idea to direct people to edit vital policy-based essays, so some could have a hatnote 'Essay for improvement'. Svampesky (talk) 18:24, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Pistol emoji
[edit]Thanks for catching the unintentional synthesis, but what mistake did I actually make here? It was intended to summarise the body so I may have been misled by existing errors later in the article. Belbury (talk) 08:28, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- If you'd asked me a few months ago what the deal was with the pistol emoji, I would have said "it used to be a gun and then some time in the late 2010s a bunch of websites changed it to be a water gun", but when I actually looked into it for this article it turned out the reality was much more complicated and weird. The thing everyone went with was that it got changed everywhere, because this made for an easy story, but half of the vendors never changed anything, and even among the ones who did it was kind of an awkwardly inconsistent back-and-forth changeover. It's kind of interesting, because Elon Musk and all the people who hate Elon Musk seem to agree that everyone had a water gun until he unilaterally decided Twitter should go back to a handgun, but this does not seem to actually be borne out by anything other than that one article from the one abc.net article which seems to have gotten its header image from a Facebook page(?). jp×g🗯️ 09:01, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- That header image does seem to be backed up by what I'm seeing in the sources, that Microsoft adopted the water pistol years ago but caved to cross-platform compatibility and made it a gun, then all the main platforms changed it to a water pistol in 2018.
- I'll see if I can pull together enough sources to recreate a sourced timeline table in the article.
- What's your view on the article drawing a link between the 2018 changes and
the Parkland high school shooting and subsequent mass demonstrations against gun violence
, a recent addition which is still in the article body? From what I can see this is an observation that some press sources made, and it seems like a reasonable one, but the actual platform announcements seem deliberately vague and anodyne about there being any social reason behind the change. Belbury (talk) 09:22, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
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Sent AI article from NYer for ITM + Smallbones(smalltalk) 23:29, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Smallbones: No email on the road but will respond when I get home. jp×g🗯️ 05:46, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
Care needed
[edit]In this edit you accidentally removed another editor's comment. Please take more care. I've reinstated it. Thanks. PamD 10:00, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- I had the edit window open for a while so I refreshed it to load the newest revision prior to submitting the comment. How the hell did it load the thing I had before and then overwrite the subsequent revision? jp×g🗯️ 18:08, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- The whole way it copes with edit conflicts these days is very confusing - it's terribly easy to get in a muddle! These things happen. PamD 19:19, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
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About your suggestion at ANI
[edit]Hi. I saw that the ANI thread where you suggested a WP:KILLSTEALING essay. Ithink that is a good idea and I will probably create such an essay today. Would you like me to send you a link when I've created it? QwertyForest (talk) 07:05, 27 August 2024 (UTC)