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Good afternoon @Belbury, just to let you know, I found a source that states about shawarma generally being Middle Eastern and not just an Arabic dish. As I found one source, please don't report me for edit warring. Thank you. ShawarmaFan07 (talk) 12:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ShawarmaFan07: These are unrelated concepts. If you don't want to be reported for edit warring, don't edit war. Belbury (talk) 09:03, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Belbury But I found a source that supports the statement that Shawarma is associated with the whole Middle Eastern cuisine, not Arab. Hopefully you won't mind adding it on that article. Plus, I asked for a discussion on the talk page for you guys to explain why it should just be called an "Arab" cuisine, but there had been no response for several days. ShawarmaFan07 (talk) 09:15, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My edit of Principal Component Analysis

Why are you reverting my minor edit on this topic, my simply adding a reference? Michael.greenacre (talk) 18:12, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Michael.greenacre: Hi Michael, it's because you're adding references to papers that you wrote yourself, across many articles. I've been posting messages to your talk page at User talk:Michael.greenacre about this issue but maybe you haven't been able to see them. Belbury (talk) 18:19, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I did write a note on Talk:Principal Component Analysis justifying my referencing our (6 co-authors) review of Principal Component Analysis published in 2022 by Nature Reviews. Can the reference now be reinstated? Michael.greenacre (talk) 08:02, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Michael.greenacre: Thanks. Whether it gets added is up to the editors who read that talk page. If you add the {{edit coi}} template and write a specific edit request (eg. saying exactly where in the article you want the link added), the request will be put in a queue that other editors will check in on. Belbury (talk) 08:13, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My edit of Golden hour (photography)

I don't think a period directly after an image tag is necessary or intentional, as it leaves a blank line right after a section heading. --Gert7 (talk · contribs) 16:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gert7: Quite right, my mistake! From the edit diff I misread it as being after a wikilink rather than an image tag. I've reverted myself. Belbury (talk) 16:25, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Starter editor have a question

Hi,

I’m a starter editor. I understand what a reliable source is but the game I write on my article does not have an official website. The only way I can get references is through user generated content like a fandom wiki article. How can I get a reliable source without an official website. Nanb500001 (talk) 08:13, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You asked this same, strange question at the Teahouse, so I'll leave it to them to answer. Belbury (talk) 08:59, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season

On 7 November 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that several major U.S. politicians have spread conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Conspiracy theories about the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:04, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of File:YouTube front page.jpg

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Cappuccino; [1]

Hi. This image, which was already in the article, is the best and has no latte art; have we solved it? JacktheBrown (talk) 15:59, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

nbnw.org

I did not add the nbnw.org citation at costume party, I just moved it. My question is, why do you call it spam in your edit summary? I cannot find any discussion on it via WP:RS nor the accompanying list. Thanks, 73.218.17.248 (talk) 02:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, it was part of a cleanup of a domain that's been spammed across articles recently, and now blacklisted from Wikipedia. See MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist#nbnw.org. Belbury (talk) 10:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome, thank you for the link. 73.218.17.248 (talk) 03:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vital question

What does BLOCKEVASION mean exactly? 2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867 (talk) 11:17, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! In this case it means that a number of edits have matched those made in the past by a blocked user, giving the appearance that that user is trying to evade their block. Belbury (talk) 11:46, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I'm not a banned user but I will watch out for this in the near future. Can I still edit? 2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:1D2D:5594:24FC:6867 (talk) 12:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you're neither evading a block, editing at the direction of a blocked user nor restoring old edits by a blocked user, sure. Belbury (talk) 12:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Belbury - I suspect this IP is ShawarmaFan07, and appears to be within the same range as this user's other IP socks from what I understand. Will flag this on the ANI discussion. PlatinumClipper96 (talk) 18:01, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Idioms

Why should we need the idiom cite? The source said it, so I do not think it's necessary. Also, please read sources carefully before you assume that the information is, well, 'non-existent' and reverting. ShawarmaFan07 (talk) 13:06, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ShawarmaFan07: See MOS:IDIOM, Wikipedia does not use idioms like someone having "one foot" in a place. Non-fluent readers won't know what it means, and I'm not completely sure myself what the sentence is trying to say. I'm not restoring the template because the information is "non-existent", I'm restoring it because the sentence uses an idiom when it shouldn't.

It needs to be rewritten in plain English or attributed as a quotation. Belbury (talk) 13:08, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It supposed mean that Al-Maleki was squeezed between Western, American culture and culture from rural Middle East. In fact I originally said "clashed", but for some reason you deleted that, and when I reverted it back, I had to include this idiom because you will (as usual) nag at me for "not exactly matching the words with source". ShawarmaFan07 (talk) 14:15, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ShawarmaFan07: Saying that a person was "squeezed" or "clashed" between two cultures still isn't very clear, and risks implying that there was unwanted social pressure from her American friends, which doesn't sound like it was necessarily the case. I've rewritten it to be closer to the specifics given in the sources, that she had assimilated into American culture, but considered herself Muslim and was fluent in Arabic. Belbury (talk) 15:18, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, and I am sorry!

I hope I have communicated through my contributions at this point that when I say that "I am sorry", I really mean that it won't happen again. I am beyond thankful for your advice and guidance! Luke Elaine Burke (talk) 15:20, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Luke Elaine Burke: Absolutely fine, no harm done! I assumed it was a test edit made in error, but if you were trying to fix something in particular and need any help with that, let me know. --Belbury (talk) 15:21, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bookmarks

All of your bookmarks are extremely valuable and appreciated. Your photography is also incredible and inspiring.

Best, Luke Elaine Burke (talk) 04:00, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Glassware

Hello Belbury,

Below are some of the references cited and of course, undone. Could you help me understand how these linked references do not exist or presumably qualify as independent third-party secondary sources.

The Straits Times, National newspapers of Singapore: Chinnuswamy, Yamini (8 December 2022). Top Tipples: Whisky crystalware, Dom Perignon's new pairing menu, festive cocktails. The Straits Times. Singapore Press Holdings.
Robb Report, International magazine: Choo, Justin. January 11, 2023. The Lucaris Gràn Collection will change the way you drink whisky. Robb Report.
APAC magazine on beverage industry: Graham, Holly (November 18, 2021) Singapore whisky expert creates whisky tasting glasses with Lucaris. Drink Magazine.
Notable third-party drink writer in Singapore: Goh, Daniel (February 19, 2022) Reviewed: Lucaris The Gràn Collection is a grand way to taste whisky. Spirited Singapore.
Notable whisky writer in Hong Kong Eber, Martin (November 3, 2022) Style-specific Whisky glasses? Why not!? A review of Lucaris' new "Gràn Collection". Time For Whisky.
iF Design Award 2021 - Household / Tableware, Gràn Whisky Glass Collection. iF Design.
Tableware International Awards 2022 Ocean Glass is the winner of the Fine Glassware category with The GRAN Collection. Tableware International.

Can you help me relook into the deletion? I have edited based on facts, and all editions were duly referenced:

The glassware is a new / different shape and form.
Language used is neutral and non-promotional. No laudatory term was used. I was extremely cautious about this.
Sources / references cited are third-party, credible and independent - It has received third-party acknowledgement by iF award and Tableware award for its different bowl and mouth sizes, and usage, and covered by reputable publications.

I noted on conflict of interest. So, do I file in Category:Wikipedia conflict of interest edit requests and the COI template as the glassware is designed by my husband? Eseahfs (talk) 04:56, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Eseahfs: Hi. The List of glassware article is a list of classic examples of like wine glass and tankard, I don't see that it needs a particular subdesign of whisky glass that someone started selling last month. There are hundreds of such products. Discuss it on the article talk page if you like. Belbury (talk) 09:18, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reversion on Content Moderation

Hi @Belbury, I saw that you reverted my addition of information about differing opinions on the page for content moderation (Content moderation). I didn't find any reasoning behind the reversion, although I understand the topic is somewhat controversial. That page has very little information about content moderation itself, since the page about content moderators was merged into it.

Are there any changes that you think would be appropriate? Silent reversions run against Wikipedia's recommendations (Wikipedia:Reverting) so I'd like to engage in dialogue with you on this. Websterhamster (talk) 21:03, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Websterhamster Hi, there was an edit summary.

WP:WEASEL "it is suggested that..." isn't a useful way to frame a definition, and from the sources you cited the content didn't seem immediately salvageable ("third year law student blogger Ben Horton suggests that..."). That was all. Belbury (talk) 08:44, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of robotics companies

Hi there! I noticed that you removed the maintenance tags for notability and sourcing from List of robotics companies with the edit summary "concept seems to meet WP:NLIST, references not required". Can you explain this edit? Per NLIST, "One accepted reason why a list topic is considered notable is if it has been discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources". Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 19:03, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Significa liberdade: Hi, I took it as being trivial to confirm that press sources consider "robotics companies" to be a general grouping of companies, without it needing footnotes to show that this phrase has been used. If that's a misread, please do revert me. Belbury (talk) 19:21, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

To my understanding, this is one of the key differences between the uses of categories and lists. Categories are used to show similar groupings, some of which are notable for their grouping and some that are not. For standalone lists, the grouping itself must be notable. That is, independent, reliable sources should discuss the specific grouping (though this doesn't mean sources need to discuss every item on the list). However, I do realize that lists are a more contentious article type. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 19:47, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	Thanks for the help defending the page Dead Internet Theory from people changing the lede without citations, among other things. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 05:09, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diplomacy
	The Barnstar of Diplomacy is awarded to users who have helped to resolve, peacefully, conflicts on Wikipedia. You did so! Thank you very much. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:36, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]