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Your submission at Articles for creation: Beda-Etta College (January 11)

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❯❯❯ Chunky aka Al Kashmiri (✍️) 17:21, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

The Pleasant Hill link should be fixed to link to Pleasant Hill Historic District (Macon, Georgia). I'd be happy if someone could improve the Beda-Etta College entry and get it across the line. God (or whatever secular being you prefer) bless you all. Thanks for all the help!!! Wow. I'm blown away. Take care. FloridaArmy (talk) 18:04, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Lewis Hudison Persely, Louis Pursley, Louis Persely, L. H. Persley and Lewis Pursley should redirect to Lewis Persely. Also, in the Pleasant Hill entry there's a redlink for him that needs cleanup. FloridaArmy (talk) 18:21, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

In Pleasant Hill entry, move elementary school down and combine those paras. Henry W. Lucas was an artist not a civil rights activist. William P. Randall was the civil rights leader. It appears the William P Randall County Government Center is named for him. FloridaArmy (talk) 18:31, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

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Drmies (talk) 16:38, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

At least his middle initial P. should be included. I noted on the entry's talkpage that I believe his full name is William Patrick Mabson Jr. The article might be better named William P. Mabson. In Austin here in 1897? Freedom Hill link should be followed by (now Princeville, North Carolina) with the direct link. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:57, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

I am doing some more digging into Mabson (see the talk page) and will be expanding it, etc. As far as I can tell he is Sr. but I haven't yet put all the pieces together. And may I take a moment to curse Google Books "snippet view", lol. I know its better than nothing but so frustrating! S0091 (talk) 18:39, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

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KylieTastic (talk) 21:19, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks User:KylieTastic. I would combine the first two sentences to avoid redundancy. No need to say something twice in consecutive sentences. Thanks for all your help. I will try to remember to add a photoreq to the entry's talkpage.. FloridaArmy (talk) 21:27, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I combined those two sentences (I'm obviously too tired to still be editing as I missed that! Thanks), and I've added photo req to to the talk. Just noticed your on a temp block which I guess is why you didn't respond to the ping on Talk:African-American officeholders during and following the Reconstruction era - some good improvements their, though a finished list may still take some years. KylieTastic (talk) 21:33, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

I saw the comment and was going to point them to Foner's book and the other ones for Florida North Carolina, and Louisiana etc. that cover most of the names, but decided it was best to say nothing. They're doing great work. I hope if they remove anything they post it it on the talkpage for followup. Getting the names included and complete seems more urgent to me than weeding out the not yet cited, but what do I know. Still so far to go and so many names to add, but it's getting there. FloridaArmy (talk) 22:19, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Blocked

I have blocked you for a week for violating your edit restrictions. You have recently been creating articles directly in the main namespace, and you have more than 20 currently active AfC requests. Once your block expires, please make sure you comply with your restrictions. —Kusma (talk) 14:53, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

I have never intentionally created an entry in mainspace since the restriction was imposed and I've moved entries back to draftspace whenever I've become aware of an entry I created in the wrong place. I'm not perfect. Searching for title names and alt names and then creating the proper title is something I try to get right. Can you please link to the mistaken creations I made? Thank you. FloridaArmy (talk) 14:58, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Armstrong Music Publishing (2), Draft:Armstrong Music Publishing were both created at Armstrong Music Publishing and moved out of mainspace by others. For your excessive AfC nominations, see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Another_way_forward. —Kusma (talk) 15:04, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

That was an accident. I was editing it and had no idea it was deleted. It doesn't tell you anything was deleted if you are editing an entry and it's deleted. It just saves it. I really wish you had discussed your concerns with me first. I edit in good faith and make every effort to comply with all the rules and restriction that have been imposed on me. I am human so sometimes I make mistakes. If I catch them or they're pointed out to me I am happy to correct. I would have unsubmitted some drafts if you had let me know there was an issue. FloridaArmy (talk) 15:19, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

The creations in article space issue was clarified to you (with a block) at User_talk:FloridaArmy/Archive_89#August_2022, less than six months ago. Going to more than double your allowed AfC requests is not just one mistake, but quite a lot. As you see from the admin noticeboard thread, you need to be far more careful if you wish to continue editing here. —Kusma (talk) 15:25, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Your link shows User:Barkeep49 blocked me after I created Draft:Huntsville City Hall in mainspace by accident. And in that discussion I linked to examples where I moved entries from mainspace to draftspace whenever I realized where I had created them in the wrong place. I also inplemented Barkeep's suggestion about coloration of edit page (even though I don't think it helps any). How exaclty does that show I'm not making every effort to comply? Are you assuming bad faith? FloridaArmy (talk) 15:32, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Repeated accidents do make it difficult to believe you are making "every effort". And I am assuming that you do not count your AfC requests although your editing restriction (see here: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1040#FloridaArmy_and_AfC_woes) tells you to do so. That's at least 30 accidents. —Kusma (talk) 15:40, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Also repeated corrections. User:Kusma would you consider limiting the block to mainspace editing so I can continue to work on these subjects in draftspace? I would like to continue the momentum and keep going while the fire is burning and the iron is hot. I would be okay with an even longer block on mainspace editing if that's an approproate compromise, but I'd like to limit the disruption to the good work being done if that's possible. Thanks for your kind consideration. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:25, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

No, I don't think that is a good idea. Please read the recent ANI discussion in detail to understand what concerns other community members have with your edits. And the previous discussions that led to your Editing restrictions. You currently need to slow down, not keep going, as your current MO is at odds with community expectations (and so there are quite a few people calling for you to be banned from Wikipedia altogether). Please use the week to understand why that is the case (hint: it isn't racism) and to think about how you can better work with others to achieve your goals. —Kusma (talk) 17:33, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Please take a spare minute or two in the next week to think about how not to repeat the mistakes which you are aware of. The block is intended to allow you some time off from your established editing routine with an expectation that when you resume editing, you will have understood the problem and will have found a way to avoid it. Please use the time you would have devoted to editing to just think about everyhing. You're not being blamed and punished for accidentally taking some undesirable actions; however, if you don't show that you have a genuine will to address the problem, you will be blamed for not taking the community's conerns serously enough. You can either figure out for yourself how not to repeat the same mistakes, or you can seek help and guidance from others, with the same goal. I have great faith that things will be fine, and I'm willing to help you in any way I can. Sincerely—Alalch E. 16:34, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

I absolutely take all the comments made into consideration. That's why I created Draft:Missing Pieces to better organize the subjects and make collaboration easier. I see it's not considered appropriate for draftspace so hopefully I can figure out a community space for it. I don't want it in my personal space as that would give the impression it's not a broader community initiative. Many editors have helped. I'm always trying to get better and find better ways of meeting the demands made of me. If I'm forced to take a week off in the middle of working out the issues raised that will definitely be a punishment that will disrupt my progress in resolving these issues and moving forward. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:46, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Please take this time to read Wikipedia:Namespace and linked pages and learn how you are completely (as in 100%) wrong that having said page in your userspace would create any such impression, and that perhaps an opposite impression can be created by having it in another (wrong) namespace. Sincerely—Alalch E. 17:00, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

Impressions aren't always based in policy. Custom is that people don't edit subjects in other editors userspaces unless invited to do so and that they are at least careful about doing so. Draftspace is another story.

I also don't see anything in the draftpage policy page that indicates that page is inappropriate for that space. Just the opposite. Draftspace is for working on articles. But I respect consensus and will find an alternative solution. I can say with confidence, and want to reiterate, that you are 1000% wrong that the average editor considers userspaces akin to open public editing spaces on Wikipedia. Many editors don't even feel comfortable working on drafts started by other editors. Claiming that userspace is as inviting and open to editors as draftspace and that they are similar in that way is ridiculous. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:33, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

It isn't ridiculous, post the link to the to-be userspace page on top of your talk page and invite everyone to contribute to the list, and add a notice to the page itself that everyone is invited to edit. Apart from that, it's ordinarily fine for others to edit collaboratively-minded userspace pages obviously intended to coordinate efforts. Sincerely —Alalch E. 17:45, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

I don't know how much clearer I can be that I don't want it to be a userspace page. I want it to be a community page. FloridaArmy (talk) 18:40, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

FA, I see where you are coming from but where it really belongs make take some time to figure out so I think your User space is the best fit for now. S0091 (talk) 18:47, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

You can't force something you have created to be hosted by the community on a common page unless you get consensus for it. And considering the very broad scope of your collection in that list, I doubt any single project will want to take the list. But some projects have redlists for "future work" in their specific areas. You could, for example, add red-linked proposed women bios to one of Women-in-Reds redlists which can be found at Category:Women in Red redlink lists if you find a redlist which has criteria which would include some of your proposed articles. You could add the one on the NC Populist/People's Party to Wikipedia:WikiProject North Carolina/Requested articles. Not all projects have such things, so this might be limited. But if you don't want it in your userspace (which as others have pointed out is a normal and fine place to have it) then the only short-term alternative is deletion, which I don't think you want. But it can't be in draft space, that simply is not the proper area for it. It would be like sleeping in your garage and parking your car in the living room or selling orange juice in jugs labeled "milk"; it just does not belong there, and, knowing this, other editors will not use it as an area for collaboration. -Indy beetle (talk) 23:36, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

As of today, 49 editors have contributed to User:Bilorv/Challenges. I don't think any of them felt any hesitation in doing so, when the lead explicitly welcomed their input. The only thing stopping you from creating a similar page is a lack of confidence in your fellow editors. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:21, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Briquette entre poteaux

Hello, FloridaArmy. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Briquette entre poteaux".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:44, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Rando mutterings

• María C. Colón Sanchez María Colón Sánchez
• Antonina Uccello
• Caroline O'Day
• Margaret Morton, I was looking for Margaret E. Morton. Margaret Morton should really be a disambig page. The Scottish curler isn't more notable than the other two.
• Edna Negron Rosario, needs a photoreq on talkpage
• Fidelia Hoscott Fielding and Martha Uncas, I don't understand the affinity for one sentence intro paragraphs. Uncas should redirect to the other entry at least.
• Margaret Rudkin

Marian Anderson's concert at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington D.C., organized after D.A.R. refused to let an African American perform at Constitution Hall

The Constitution Hall entry should really note it was segregated in the opening paragraphs. There's an entire section discussing some aspects of the issue. There's a wonderful Jstor article about Eleanor Roosevelt's involvement in working to change the policy that would be great to cite in the entry. According to the article Eleanor Roosevelt helped realign voting patterns in the U. S. with her civil rights efforts. When was Constitution Hall desegregated?

The photo is also missing from Daughters of the American Revolution#Segregation and exclusion of African Americans, and later inclusion. Quite a section title! That entry's opening paragraphs should note the issues covered in the section. FloridaArmy (talk) 11:44, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

William L. Martin

William L. Martin was removed from the post civil war era list. He is noted here and here representing Cook County, Illinois. FloridaArmy (talk) 01:50, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

• Here's another source with some biographical information on him. FloridaArmy (talk) 01:52, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

• T. V. Gibbs should redirect to Thomas Van Renssalaer Gibbs

• Zachariah Wines appears to be the correct spelling. Needs to be fixed in legislator list. Zachariah Wilson Wines and Zachariah W. Wines should link to Zachariah Wines. Also probably Z. W. Wines. Is the name spelled Zacariah in some documents? If so links from that name would also be good.

• Terrance Carroll needs a photoreq

• Broadway High School should be a disambig page

Your submission at Articles for creation: John E. Hussey (January 13)

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EchidnaLives, see WP:NPOL. Urve (talk) 12:59, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Frederick C. Olney

I thought this might interest you. Cheers! BD2412 T 05:58, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Excellent! Well, now you have to do writeups on the two predecessors who are interesting (John Henry Ballou and Maurice Baumann). And then there's also the TV reporter and author (Hidden History of Rhode Island: Not-to-Be-Forgotten Tales of the Ocean State author Glenn V. Laxton) who wrote on one. He at least needs a summary of who he was in his station's entry (did his book about R.I. receive substantial coverage)?

I do have a couple questions for you User:BD2412, are you against including redlinks? An editor wrote that redlinks can be as good as a stubby incomplete entry, which I thought was interesting since redlinks get removed.

Secondly the entry repeatedly refers to him as African American but it also notes he had Native American heritage. Should we say "African American-Native American lawyer? These type of issues are why I avoid constructions like "African-American lawyer" and have engaged in a lonely campaign to have this type of description avoided on Wikipedia. If you try putting white journalist or white lawyer in an entry you'll see it's not favored except for minorities which I also think is problematic. Plus it's overly ambiguous. I would just cover his background in the entry where relevant.

Thank you kindly for all your great work and your help with mine BD. Enjoy all your adventures. FloridaArmy (talk) 10:28, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

See also List of African-American newspapers in Rhode Island. FloridaArmy (talk) 10:43, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Talk:Charles Hamilton Houston#User Kemet - ethnic disruption is an example of the needless problems overbroad, ambiguous, and inconsistently applied phrasings we use in opening paragraphs cause. Stanford recently caused a kerfluffle over using "American" A good encyclopedia needs to be accurate and specific. Asking readers to do guesswork about what we mean isn't helpful, and the ambiguity that is now the norm here with our sloppy usage of phrases like "American writer" and "African American writer" in opening sentences will hopefully be phased out in favor of accurately describing what we are trying to say elsewhere. When we insist leading off entries with these descriptors are we addressing citizenship? Ethnicity? Where they live? Who knows? FloridaArmy (talk) 11:54, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Charles Hamilton Houston needs a photoreq on its talkpage. As per above I would say he was a lawyer... in the United states and cover his background as appropriate. FloridaArmy (talk) 12:49, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Apropos of nothing Israel R. Potter is a redlink and Israel Potter leads to Melville's book about him. A tome following on Potter's book. FloridaArmy (talk) 10:38, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

To be honest, I have a long list already, so I may or may not add to it. With respect to redlinks, however, we have a guideline—WP:REDYES—which says to add them where they may be useful. BD2412 T 16:29, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

That's helpful, thanks. I'd be interested to see your list User:BD2412. Thanks again for all your great work. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:34, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

I have published the Olney article (I was surprised to find that, among other things, he was the treasurer of a yacht club). I added his Native American ancestry to the lede. With respect to my drafts, I have a complete (if ever-changing) list at User:BD2412/sandbox/Drafts. BD2412 T 22:40, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. You started 2023 off with a bang. I think you told me once, but I can't recall your answer, how do you keep all those drafts from being deleted every 6 months? The note you add at the bottom of pages helps? I found your entry on interactions interesting. I know I've said it before but it seems a shame so many manifestly notable subjects are hidden away in draftspace. If you stopped editing what would happen to all those entries? FloridaArmy (talk) 13:18, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

User:BD2412 I think the first sentence in the biography section needs a gramatical fix? FloridaArmy (talk) 13:22, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Syria Wilbur Mathewson / Syria W. Mathewson and the Mathewson family (see also Mathewson) are interesting. Noted in History of the state of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, The American Historical Society, Inc. 1920 and online at genealogical sites. The book itself is probably on Google Books. Take care. Thanks again. FloridaArmy (talk) 13:30, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

• Mathewson Hotel New Mathewson Hotel photo on Flickr. I see there is also a Mathewson Street. FloridaArmy (talk) 13:50, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

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Modussiccandi (talk) 20:57, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Needs a photoreq on talkpage and probs more Wikiprojects.

Dream

I just ordered a hardcover edition of Frank Lincoln Mather's Who's Who of the Colored Race (1915), it's available online link at Google Books (there's also a 1976 reprint from Gale Research). I am excited to move forward and continue the work that needs to be done. I want to again thank everyone who has helped in the effort. So many editors have done so much great work, and I truly appreciate all the kind words and contributions so many terrific editors have made to help. I stated my thanks above somewhere but it probably got lost in the shuffle, so let me again say THANK YOU and God bless you all to everyone here. Have a healthy and happy 2023 and beyond. Best of luck and good tidings on all your adventures. FloridaArmy (talk) 12:31, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

• Sally McMillen Sally G. McMillen, history professor and author
• Michele Gillespie
• George B. Blacknall George Blacknall, builder. Mather covers him and a speech he gave was transcribed but I can't find a lot on him. Maybe he can be noted in a broader entry on Blacknall? He is noted here but in a list.
• Eugene Covington, doctor, civil rights campaigner, and politician in Bloomington, Indiana?
• Edward D. Green
• Estelle Brown Hamilton
• Charles Houston Charles Hamilton Houston, lawyer in San Francisco
• George Henry Jackson, lawyer, politician, and real estate businessman in Ohio. needs expansion and a photo. Was born in Canada. His legacy (son became a doctor?) also needs explicating. He was a trustee of Sallie McCall Industrial School in Cincinnati. Sallie McCall Here's a legal case over her estate
• Giles B. Jackson Giles Beecher Jackson president of the Negro Historical and Industrial Association in charge of 1915 "Negro Exhibition" in Richmond, Virginia. Is there an article for the exhibtion? National Negro Exposition More coverage here
• Beach Normal Institute in Savannah, Georgia. Predecessor of the The Beach Institute African-American Cultural Center
• Charles Franklin Lane, a Beach Institute alumnus as well as Boston Latin School, studied with professor Edward Price of Harvard, Suffolk Law School, Boston Law School, publisher and law student (as of 1915) published The Citizen literary magazine
• James Edward Mason, religious leader, professor, speaker, twice led opening Senate and General Assembly in Albany "during administration of Theodore Roosevelt". Interesting list of lectures he gave is included in Mather's Who's Who. Were any of them transcribed?
• Z. W. William Mitchell, Education researcher, speaker, and organizer. con man? He's noted on this handwritten historical document a legal? doc
• Pearl High School in Nashville covered in Martin Luther King Magnet at Pearl High School Franklin Gatewood Smith principal
• John Wesley Strong, president of Central Texas College (Waco, Texas) in Waco, Texas in 1915. Our entry on Central Texas College is for a community college founded in Killeen, Texas in 1965. Weirdly I can find very little about the college. this book notes Strong as president and one of protestors of a lynching? This book says 1903-1937. Gives years for its football team in Waco and "Ind."????? I know there is a book about black colleges in Texas. Maybe it's covered there???
• Taborian Park in Waco, Texas. A park for African Americans? Noted on Facebook here. Texas Central College may have used the field there? Had a pool? What happened to it? Where was it? Apparently Blind Lemon Jefferson played there fairly often
• Thomas Wallace Swann, newspaperman and organizer of Lincoln Jubilee in Chicago
• Lincoln Jubilee needs a great deal of expansion
• James Guinee Trimble was a doctor in Brooklyn? Fisk University and Harvard. Appears to have had a long life but I can't find much on him apart from a brief in Mather. Jr.? I can only preview a snippet of this FloridaArmy (talk) 15:14, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
• Richard Edward Westbrook, lawyer, high school principal, delegate to Lincoln Jubilee. Represented Chicago Defender
• Roswell M. Field (Draft:Roswell M. Field I started a draft on this lawyer for the Dredd Scott's family. I think it's an interesting and important subject if anyone wants to run with it or start fresh that's fine by me too. Most welcome to use anything I wrote or cited if any of it is helpful

Comments on above list

Hi FA, that is a pretty dated Who's Who, what you need is access to African American National Biography. Unfortunately not available through WP:Library and access to American National Biography is not working right now. You might be able to find in a library or gain online access some other way. fiveby(zero) 15:38, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Well, the only entry i find from your above list of red links is Jackson, Giles Beecher so maybe not so useful. You could probably obtain that entry through WP:RX which is a great resource. fiveby(zero) 15:48, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

As a starting point for missing subjects, this Who's Who and Monroe Work's books filter subjects to a certain time period I find useful. I think adding the entries from Gates and Higgenbotham's (sp?) tome is a great suggestion, and I think those would be considered notable if they have substantial entries?

I find subjects like the Lincoln Jubilee fascinating. For example the Historical Review that started off from some of the gatherees in attendance. Or the businesses. And publications that covered it. I keep waiting for someone to expand my shoddy start so I can read more about it. The organizers are noted in Mathers book and the proclomation? state government made in support of it is even reprinted in that source. Maybe I prefer older stuff or roots? I don't know. I appreciate the suggestions. User:Fiveby are you saying my list isn't useful or that Gates' tome isn't helpful with these subjects? I wasn't sure. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:11, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Ok, i see, using it to identify topics without more recent coverage. Problem is it is not going to lead to the resources required to build an article. Along those lines i wonder if we could find many of these publications online? I think it's the bibliography for Black Biography, 1790-1950 from W. E. B. Du Bois Institute and predecessor to AANB? Maybe a list of Bibliographic indexs and databases would be useful, for instance authors in Index to Black American writers in collective biographies? Here's Work's A bibliography of the Negro in Africa and America you mentioned if you hadn't already seen it on archive. fiveby(zero) 16:59, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Schools

Schools often went through various names

List of schools for African Americans? Segregated schools?

• Industrial High School in Birmingham, Alabama
• New Canaan High School in Camp Hill, Alabama
• Colored High School in Decatur, Alabama
• Colored High School in Huntsville, Alabama Huntersville Colored High School
• Colored High School in Tuscaloosa, Alabama
• Colored High School Fernandina, Florida
• Colored High School Green Cove, Florida
• Colored High School Elberton, Georgia
• Colored High School in Moultrie, Georgia
• Colored High Achool in Rome, Georgia
• Liberty Colored High School in Liberty, South Carolina
• Colored High School DuQuoin Lincoln High School in DuQuoin, Illinois I find this one interesting. I've never heard of DuQuoin and I struggle to spell and pronounce it. Wikipedia's wntry on it shows it's overwhelmingly white. Why did it have a high school for African Americans in 1915? Informative blog post about the school and its extant building. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:10, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
• Marion Colored High School in Sunset, Arkansas
• Snow Hill Colored High School
• Phoenix Union Colored High School which became Carver High School (Phoenix, Arizona)
• Hampton Colored School
• Burgaw Colored High School which became Burgaw Normal and Industrial Schoo
• Langston High School (Hot Springs, Arkansas) Langston High School (Arkansas)
• Okolona Colored High School and the Okolona Colored High School Gymnasium in Okolona, Arkansas
• Okolona Colored High School and the Okolona Colored High School Gymnasium in Okolona, Arkansas
• Wiley H. Bates High School replaced Annapolis Colored High School
• Frederick Douglass High School (Prince George's County, Maryland)

succesor of Marlboro Colored High School

• Mineola Colored High School in Mineola, Texas
• Victoria Colored School in Victoria County, Texas
• M. W. Gibbs High School Little Rock, Arkansas add photo req and redirect M. W. Gibbs to (Mifflin Wistar Gibbs)
• Missouri Street High School Pine Bluff, Arkansas, noted here and appears to have been short lived so include in entry on Merrill School
• Howard High School Wilmington, Delaware covered in Howard High School of Technology
• Howard Academy in Ocala, Florida
• Lincoln High School (Tallahassee, Florida) Tallahassee, Florida
• North Georgia Industrial High School in Atlanta, Georgia One of the Marshall's Sales items notes if adjacent to a property being sold. 1924 newspaper
• Barney Street High School in Madison, Georgia
• Eddy High School in Milledgeville, Georgia
• Clay Street High School in Thomasville, Georgia
• Sumner High School Sumner High School (Cairo, Illinois in Cairo, Illinois
• Dunbar High School in Metropolis, Illinois
• Lincoln High School East St. Louis Lincoln High School in East St. Louis, Illinois
• Lovejoy High School Lovejoy High School (Illinois) in Mound City, Illinois
• Clark Street High School in Evansville, Indiana
• Broadway High School Broadway High School (Madison, Indiana) in Madison, Indiana
• Booker T. Washington High School in Mount Vernon, Indiana
• Scribner High School in New Albany, Indiana
• Lincoln High School in Princeton, Indiana, photo of the school ca. 1925 and address There is this letter about it. Photo of the basketball team from 1947 yearbook photo of a home economics class in 1947 held by state archives
• Colored High School in Vincennes, Indiana
• Sumner High School in Kansas City, Kansas
• State Street High School Bowling Green, Kentucky
• Clinton Street High School in Frankfort, Kentucky (1882-1928) "Replaced" by -Mayo Underwood School
• Colored High School in Hopkinsville, Kentucky
• Central High School (Louisville, Kentucky in Louisville, Kentucky
• Western High School in Owensboro, Kentucky
• Lincoln High School in Paducah, Kentucky preceded by Moonlight School?
• Western High School in Paris, Kentucky apparently it was a basketball powerhouse
• Colored High School in Richmond, Kentucky
• Southern University and A&M High School New Orleans, Louisiana
• Colored High School in Baltimore Maryland
• Union Academy in Columbus, Mississippi
• Colored High School Port Gibson, Mississippi
• Union High School in Natchez which I know we have an entry on
• Sheffield Colored School
• Sam Houston Industrial and Training School
• Frankfort Female High School Mattie E. Anderson, apparently at least in part a normal school
• State Normal School for Colored Persons, now Kentucky State University needs cleanup
• List entry on high schools for African Americans?
• Colored High School should be a disambig page also Colored School
• Arcadia Colored High School in Arcadia, Louisiana needs a photo. NRHP listed
• Cleveland Colored Consolidated High School
• Houma Colored High School
• Carver Vocational Technical High School
• Havre de Grace Colored School Museum and Cultural Center and Havre de Grace Colored High School Havre de Grace Consolidated School Needs a photo
• Richmond Colored High School which became Armstrong High School (Virginia)
• Pompano Colored School, also known as the Pompano Beach Colored School needs photoreq and wikiprojects on talkpage
• Magnolia Colored School seems to have a lot of notable alumni. More than one school named this? Magnolia Colored School Historic District in Arkansas
• Farmville Colored School H. B. Sugg High School H. B. Sugg County Training School H. B. Sugg appears to have been a orincipal. Full name? "I admired their principal , H. B. Sugg , an old - timer , a fatherly type . He watched over all his teachers and students as if they were his own children . He owned the land a > the school was on and he ran everything like.." He's also noted here
• Dunbar Colored High School Mayfield Ten
• Alapaha Colored School
• Monroe Colored High School
• Highland Colored School
• Mineola Colored High School
• Bessemer Colored High School became Dunbar High School (Bessemer, Alabama)
• Dallas Colored High School Thelma Paige Richardson Thelma Elizabeth Page Richardson
• Frederick Douglass School, formerly Plano Colored School
• Washington Colored High School in Washington D.C. Anna J. Cooper was a teacher Is this school related to M Street? Predecessor? Unrelated?
• Alabama Boys' Industrial School Mount Meigs Campus Alabama Boys Industrial School There also appears to be 54+ minite video about it. A Home for Wayward Boys: The Early History of the Alabama Boys’ Industrial School by Jerry C. Armory et al. School founded by Elizabeth Johnston Elizabeth Johnston (education reformer? school founder?) / Elizabeth Evans Johnston, wife of Confederate general Robert Daniel Johnston Did she attend the Clifton Conference? Her husband is listed as an attendee. Did other women attend?

More

• William H. Brooks pastor and organizer attended Clifton Conference

Other

• Texas Alexander needs a photo
• Austin Searchlight newspaper. Ended ca. William P. Mabson's death? If not independently notable let's at least redirect to the appropriate section of his entry? Are there any extant editions?

  Searched (GBooks, Newspaper.com, WP Library) but did not find anything in-depth. S0091 (talk) 19:28, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

  Re copies, this shows that there are at least two copies available at the Dolph Briscoe Center for American History. this also mentions two, so may be all that surviving. Urve (talk) 05:35, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

• Colored Radical tidy
• Scott Newspaper Syndicate at Draft:Scott Newspaper Syndicate – a syndicate sponsoring dozens of newspapers; more sources needed, but an important part of journalism history (draft contains redlinks for more newspapers) Urve (talk) 05:35, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

References

For followup

• Draft:Ross E. Hutchins

If you mean the entomologist and photographer an interesting guy. Ran around Guam dodging the Japanese and collecting bugs, invented some kind of photography thing for small insects. Have a pdf article and might have Trails to Nature's Mysteries. fiveby(zero) 21:29, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes, saw the deleted draft on your talkpage and just from a list of their books seemed very interesting and notable. FloridaArmy (talk) 05:35, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Henry A. Wise High School add demographic information and test scores.

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I'm sorry to see you acquired a brief block

I thought you might like to know that I appreciate your work and work ethic. Not everything you create is "camera ready" but a far higher percentage feels to be over the years.

I applaud your coverage of the hard to research areas of US history. I'm sorry that you feel, sometimes, that this placed is biased against the area you specialise in. I suspect that history is biased, the evidence being the difficulty you have in finding RS references.

This search will help you to keep your simultaneous submissions down to the restricted number. I know I've shared it with you before.

I want you to succeed. Please do not get blocked again. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 15:52, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks User:Timtrent. Addressing systemic bias requires more than a one at a time in depth approach. For MANY of these subjects there is a lot of coverage much of it just isn't available online. There were lots of newspaper in African American communities. I hope I've raised awareness of some of the issues at least. The discussion has helped clarify the problem for me and helped ke move towards an approach that is workable to begin resolving it. I tried to add the link you gave me to my sandbox, but as I'm blocked it didn't work. I will try to remember to do it (some of these discussions can get a little buried) but I think I can remember to attend to it a week from now. It's a useful and helpful link, also perhaps for anyone wanting to help clear my backlog. Maybe I should put it atop this page? I am a bit paranoid about those watching me and waiting for me to make a mistake. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:03, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Is your User page open to you? I have my toolkit on mine. Have a look. And yes, I am sure some people are waiting for some editors to trip up. Wikipedia reminds me of Lord of the Flies at times.

We are meant to have no issue with offline references provided one can give chapter and verse. Reviewers have a simple job, though not an easy one. Our role is to accept a draft when we have an honest belief that it has a better than 50% chance of surviving an immediate deletion process. There is currently a good set of newish reviewers whose comfort level may not be sufficient to make the judgement well. Couple that with a backlog drive and you can see why some drafts come under scrutiny that is unduly harsh 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:12, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I try to imagine what it was like for Thomas Oscar Fuller, please someone write up his entry so I don't have to (he's discussed and some sources noted in a thread above), and walk into the capitol buildings in North Carolina; the last, or one of the last, and perhaps the only African American state senator in North Carolina at that time. What was it like to struggle against the tide of white supremacy, to try and advocate for decent schools, to seek to ride public transportation with white people, to want to be able to go to a restaurant in Raleigh with his colleagues, and to want to attend a theater show or church and not have to sit in the balcony. Of course there were segregated institutions, part of the story we need to tell. But to serve in state government with the animus and history. The violence. The threats. And later to see these efforts denigrated and attacked, misrepresented and lampooned over the decades that followed. The courage in the face of such extraordinary cruelty and brutality is truly awesome to me. The same for the lawyers and other officials. Mayors, sheriffs, county commissioners. Imagine being a Black sheriff in the South back then. What would it have been like? Obviously that would have been in a community of freedmen and their families, but facing the whole power structure and history, and being able to rise to a position of authority and then to have those rights stripped away again for many decades. It's stunning. Just the struggles to be able to get an education, and to build schools, even grade schools, and then finally some high schools and colleges. It's an awesome struggle and terrible how difficult the effort was. That's why I think it's so important we include these subjects. Most people just don't know anything about what went on, and not just in the South. In the New England, out West, and of course in colonies. I think it's important we have honest and accurate accounts of events and history. Take care. Thanks for your help. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:35, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I hit, immediately, the lack of online sources and have no access to offline ones. I also dislike bias. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 16:48, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I have created the Thomas O. Fuller article and have also added him to T. O. Fuller State Park , List of alumni of Shaw University and Franklinton, North Carolina. All good wishes from the UK. Theroadislong (talk) 17:32, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

T. O. Fuller, Clinton Conference lists him as an attendee.

You mean Clifton Conference presumably? Theroadislong (talk) 08:29, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes. Principal of the Howe Bible and Normal Institute. FloridaArmy (talk) 11:20, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Thomas Oscar Fuller

I came across Thomas Oscar Fuller / T. O. Fuller / Thomas O. Fuller noted as a minister and the first African American to serve in the North Carolina Senate (1899-1900). Also the last until 1974. Pretty long after Reconstruction. North Carolina didn't have African American state senators during Reconstruction? Seems kind of unbelievable. Anyway, I will return to filling in the gaps as best I can and chasing down the missing pieces as soon as I am able. Take care. FloridaArmy (talk) 22:24, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

First from Macon maybe? I don't know. There were many before him. I'll have to reread the article I read that made the claim and see if I missed something or they just got it wrong. Last African American to serve in North Carolina's state senate before Reconstruction? Henry Eppes and others were earlier. FloridaArmy (talk) 22:36, 11 January 2023 (UTC)

It seems he was last. And left after disenfranchisement.

Authored:

• Twenty Years in Public Life, 1890-1910, North Carolina-Tennessee (1910),
• Pictorial History of the American Negro (1933)
• History of the Negro Baptists in Tennessee (1936)
• Bridging the Racial Chasms (1937)
• The Story of the Church Life Among Negroes in Memphis (1938)

See also: T. O. Fuller State Park

https://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/entries/thomas-oscar-fuller/

Well, think i've learned not to trust a Gale publication with Contemporary in the title. fiveby(zero) 06:23, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks User:Fiveby, that's an interesting source. I think User:KylieTastic can confirm that we often find contradictions and have to correct what has been stated in some sources about these subjects. Just sorting out their correct names can be an odyssey (official documents used mostly initials). I guess we know where the article I read got it's misinformation. First / Last, what's the difference? Only kidding. What's a few decades between friends? Thanks again. FloridaArmy (talk) 15:52, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Yup, so many mistakes, so many similar names and with the lack of reporting on some (especially minorities) it is a huge minefield. I've even submitted multiple corrections to Freedom's Lawmakers where I have multiple sources that disagree. We can but do are best and if no consensus leave notes about discrepancies. KylieTastic (talk) 14:04, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

I believe I read he was the only African American in the North Carolina Senate at least for his last term (ca. 1899). I try to imagine what that was like. I find it fascinating. FloridaArmy (talk) 15:54, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I see some quotes from Helen G. Edmonds' The Negro and Fusion Politics in North Carolina, 1894–1901, so that is probably the source to find, but i always have trouble with UNC Press ebooks. They should be available through WP:Library: EBSCO, JSTOR, or MUSE, but can't ever seem to find the one i'm looking for. Also saw his Grandfather Clause speech mentioned, so that would be something to find.

Went through about half of the attendees adding red-links for the easier ones. College presidents and prominent ministers could all probably generate an article with more work, but it's a lot easier to create a Hovey Field article than a article for George Rice Hovey[1]. fiveby(zero) 19:05, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

By the way, saw you mentioned a few times sorting out names. A sometimes useful way is to use the VIAF, librarians have some experience here. If you have a G. R. Hovey, you can easily find Rice, George Hovey, 1860-1943 (if they have published), wikidata entry George Rice Hovey (Q94367466), WorldCat identity, etc. and sometimes some sources. fiveby(zero) 19:26, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Hah! Everyone has the name wrong, probably because the librarians at LOC screwed up! A poor example i guess, and shows why you can't cite the authority files, but still was easy to find our Virginia Union president. fiveby(zero) 19:43, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I tried a little while back to get Edmonds' Fusion politics book, but that one and most of her other ones are a lil spendy. Out of print I believe. FloridaArmy (talk) 20:47, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

George Rice Hovey, George Hovey Rice (common misspelling), G. R. Hovey, George Hovey, George R. Hovey

Wait here it is. FloridaArmy (talk) 21:02, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

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Article creation in article space

Hey FA, If you want, you can add some code to your common.js file that would prevent you from accidentally creating a new article in article space, but would still allow you to edit existing articles in article space. See User talk:Writ Keeper#Article space creation block. I could help you set it up if you're interested. No obligation, of course, just an option you can take or leave. --Floquenbeam (talk) 15:10, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes, absolutely. That would be fantastic. You have my permission to do it if that's possible otherwise I will try to figure it out and hopefully not destroy anything major. FloridaArmy (talk) 15:39, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

I'd forgotten that you can't edit that page while blocked, and I can't edit it because it requires "interface administrator" permissions to edit someone else's javascript page. User:Writ Keeper has offered to do it; he has that permission, and he's the one that whipped up the code anyway. Plus he's 10x smarter than me regarding javascript stuff, so you'll be in better hands than mine. Floquenbeam (talk) 16:16, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Okay, based on the above, I've gone ahead and added the script to your common.js here. If you ever want to remove the script, you can just go to that page and remove that line (or revert my edit), and it'll be gone. With the script installed, if you go to a page in mainspace that doesn't exist yet, you'll see the "edit" button will have changed into a "go to draft" button, which will take you to the draftspace page with the same name. If you happen to get to the edit page for a mainspace article that doesn't exist, a popup will remind you that you're in mainspace, and offer again to take you to the draftspace page. You shouldn't see any changes to any mainspace article that already exists, or anything outside of mainspace. Let me know if you run into any issues, or have any other questions or concerns. Thanks! Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 16:33, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Great! Thanks. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:43, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately this approach doesn't work because it prevents me from creating redirects User:Floquenbeam. User:Writ Keeper could you please restore my settings to how they were? Thank you. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:03, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Sure, done. I'll note that the script doesn't *completely* remove your ability to create new pages like redirects; when you're on a page that doesn't exist, the "edit" buttons will have changed, but clicking on the button that says "Article" in the upper left of the window (next to the "Talk" button) will still take you to the edit page, and if you click "Cancel" on the popup, you'll stay on the page and should be able to create it without further interruption (though you might have to hit "cancel" again if you preview your changes or something). If that's enough, you can re-enable the script by undoing this edit. Cheers, Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 17:12, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Octavius Coke

I went ahead and "completed" the draft and published it, so don't anticipate any AfC notifications regarding it. Happy new year. -Indy beetle (talk) 05:55, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

The opening paragraph doesn't say when he served in those offices and doesn't note that he was an officer in the Confederate Army. FloridaArmy (talk) 19:00, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Richard Dunham

Hello. Looks like you've gotten some names mixed up. While one source is correct, the one for Richard Dunham, the other sources all apply to Richard Durham. Please see Draft:Richard Durham. Unless you think Richard Dunham can achieve WP:Notable status I suggest your request a deletion of the page. Thanks. – S. Rich (talk) 17:58, 30 December 2022 (UTC)

I started a draft on one and the other popped up so I created a fork for him. I'm glad to see he is in mainspace now where he belongs. The one I was interested in is borderline notable. FloridaArmy (talk) 19:23, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Library

Hi FloridaArmy, I am wondering if you generally have access to the Wikipedia Library. Recent discussions called this issue to my attention, as well as the scholarly and older news sources I found there to expand Old Man Minick and some of the related articles. Beccaynr (talk) 18:11, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

FloridaArmy, I would recommend getting access to Newspapers.com. A lot of your articles would not get rejected if you used it. Scorpions13256 (talk) 01:35, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

I think I established an account and may have tried to use it. Not everything is eady or straightforward. FloridaArmy (talk) 17:35, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

I don't have much experience with Newspapers.com, although I find its OCR feature most helpful when others link to it. But for the Wikipedia Library, particularly ProQuest and sometimes the Gale databases, there can be access to older resources, and via EBSCOhost, access to scholarly resources that might otherwise only be available as a preview through GScholar. I find the Advanced Search features on the WP Library and ProQuest often to be the most useful, and tend to try various keywords in addition to a subject's name, especially for more obscure subjects. Please feel free to contact me if you run into challenges with the WP Library - I think it could be a helpful resource, although it does take time to get oriented to the databases. Cheers, Beccaynr (talk) 18:06, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

For many of FA's articles I have found Newpapers.com the most useful aside from Google Books (although GBook's little snippets drive me crazy lol) and its not hard to use but depending on the what you are searching, it can be time consuming to slog through. For example, Adam Beittel was easy (not a common name) but Draft:Artie Young (see talk) has been a bear because of name changes (marriages) and not entirely an uncommon name so I had to narrow geographic focus and time period. However, for many subjects its the best place to find sources. I also agree Proquest which has historical NYT and Gail are always worth a shot as is JSTOR. At worst you have spent 5 or so minutes finding nothing. S0091 (talk) 18:33, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

@Beccaynr what is OCR? S0091 (talk) 18:36, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

An example is here, towards the end of the page, it says "Show 1 article text (OCR)" - when clicked on, there is full text available. It is not the prettiest format, but I tend to find in more readable (and easier to pull quotes from). Beccaynr (talk) 20:09, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Ahh...I never noticed that before. Neat! S0091 (talk) 20:49, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Questions

Does anyone know how I can make the little checkmark? Does ✔️ work?

How do I see the list of my submitted entries? I know it's here somewhere but I am not seeing it.. FloridaArmy (talk) 19:55, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

That works, also {{tick}} → Y, {{y}} → Y, {{yeac}} → Y. Timtrent posted this link above to find the number of pending submissions. Urve (talk) 21:05, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

You have to count them manually, I'm afraid 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 22:45, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

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Your editing restriction

Hi FloridaArmy, just a reminder that your editing restriction is to have no more than 20 pending AfC submissions at any time. If this search shows a "next 20" at the bottom you have more than 20. As of right now, you have about 45. You should not submit further drafts (as you did at Draft:South River Forest) until the number has gone below 20. If you think this restriction is stupid, you should go to WP:ANI and appeal it. If you continue to violate your restriction, you will probably get blocked again. —Kusma (talk) 22:02, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I will unsubmit that one and a disambig page I submitted for Broadway High School (Draft:Broadway High School). FloridaArmy (talk) 22:18, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

January 2023 (UTC)

Of course I am in a bind because I have User:Liz deleting them and I'm not allowed to submit them. Pretty insane. And I haven't edited in a week and the backlog hasn't changed much. Talk about a massive waste of time.

A suggestion

If you'd like, FA, since we've worked on stuff in the past. If you want to let me know about drafts you think are ready, I can check them to see if I agree or not and, if I do agree, then I'll submit them to AfC. So that will let you have some oversight on your submissions from another editor and still have them be submitted. Just try not to overwhelm me with too many, please. :P Silverseren^C 22:08, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Okay, that would be a big help. Thanks User:Silver seren. FloridaArmy (talk) 22:19, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Of course I am in a bind because I have User:Liz deleting them and I'm not allowed to submit them. Pretty insane. Talk about a massive waste of time. FloridaArmy (talk) 22:26, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Are they being deleted for being over 6 months old with no edits? Or is it for another reason? Silverseren^C 22:29, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

6 months no edits. I'm not allowed to submit them or keep them as drafts. Wikipedia rules. FloridaArmy (talk) 22:50, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

There is no rule that I know of to stop you editing any draft to keep them as drafts. Any edit should just reset the 6 month G13 clock. KylieTastic (talk) 10:22, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

You may also ask for them to be WP:REFUNDED. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 10:49, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

• I've fixed up and resubmitted Draft:South River Forest. Silverseren^C 22:58, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Eleanor Heartney (January 22)

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Allen W. Trelease

Just FYI, I edited and cleared this one. Glad to see you are back! PigeonChickenFish (talk) 06:30, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

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BuySomeApples (talk) 06:34, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

I noticed...

I came across your work here and couldn't help but notice that you are a prodigious creator of new articles! Please have a look at some of the suggestions I added to the WiR Talk page. If any of these are of interest to you, it would be wonderful to see articles started (I would of course follow-up and add to them to the extent that I am able). I am pretty new here and am also very slow with new article creation, having thus far only published two (though I have a few in the works). Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 09:03, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Excellent job contributing articles! BuySomeApples (talk) 06:02, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Post-Newsweek Productions (February 2)

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Every draft submitted should include alternate names that need linking. Shocking to think anyone would consider this subject not notable. FloridaArmy (talk) 07:12, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Jesse Dungee (January 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by GA Melbourne was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Now in article space. FloridaArmy (talk) 07:31, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Neale Publishing Company

And letting you know I've just done the same here! I was actually planning on doing this before, had ordered a copy of the book about them, and was pleasently surprised to see that you'd already laid the groundwork for an article there. I'm pretty happy with how this one turned out :) ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 19:27, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the note user:ThadeusOfNazereth. I agree it's an interesting subject. Thanks very much for working it up! FloridaArmy (talk) 07:33, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

John E. Hussey

Hi Florida - I've cleaned up + expanded John E. Hussey and moved it to mainspace. There was some interesting stuff there about a dispute over his second election that I was able to find which should alleviate any concerns about notability. ThadeusOfNazereth(he/him)^{Talk to Me!} 20:26, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

User:ThadeusOfNazereth I find myself wondering what it would be like for him to serve in the North Carolina legislature at that time. Hopefully his wntry gets further expanded over time. Thanks for your efforts! Much appreciated. FloridaArmy (talk) 07:38, 3 February 2023 (UTC)