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Citation cleanup

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Hey, just making sure you're aware that per WP:RANGE we do not abbreviate numerical ranges for pages or dates. Please make sure you're familiar with the MOS when making style changes across a large number of articles. Remsense ‥  23:08, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello: WP:RANGE does not address page ranges or dates. Rather, [1] says we should follow a consistent style. (E.g., cites should be consistent in the page ranges presented. That is what I did. Accordingly, please roll back (or revise) your reverts to the various articles. Thanks. – S. Rich (talk) 01:29, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You are incorrect, but I should've checked I was linking MOS:RANGE, cf. MOS:DATERANGE. Remsense ‥  01:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
O.Kay. So who's more correct in these edits? I think mine comply with DATERANGE. – S. Rich (talk) 01:43, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Any abbreviation of a range of dates or pages is incorrect. Always write it out instead. Remsense ‥  01:44, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No. Chicago Manual of Style says "123–24" is acceptable. And WP accepts CMS as a citation style. See https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/tools_citationguide.htmlS. Rich (talk) 01:57, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Wikipedia Manual of Style says it's not, except in quotations. Why would we have these guidelines apply everywhere except in citations due to what a different style guide permits? You are misunderstanding what WP:CITESTYLE means in practice; it is not license to ignore what other guidelines like the MOS explicitly require. Maybe WP:CITESTYLE could use a sentence of clarification on this point, but clearly the idea is "different citation styles are acceptable", not "we must allow anything another style guide allows if it's hidden in a citation".Remsense ‥  02:02, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you don't believe me—I find it pretty unambiguous and have little idea of how to make it clearer for you—please consider asking on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style or somewhere else for verification or clarification before re-adding MOS violations. Remsense ‥  02:57, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Srich32977, you have been told many times in the past that abbreviating numbers in ranges here on the English Wikipedia is incorrect. You and I have had multiple discussions on your talk page about this issue. Maybe your memory has failed you; I know mine sometimes does. Please stop abbreviating page ranges. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:50, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I shall comply with MOS:PAGERANGE. – S. Rich (talk) 21:34, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Srich32977 was this edit a mistake in this way? If so, I apologize: just double-checking since I thought we had come to an understanding. Remsense ‥  23:10, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
...and this. My finger is on the WP:DE-block button, Srich32977. Tell me why I should not press it. DMacks (talk) 23:21, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

September thanks

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story · music · places

Thank you for improving article quality in September! - Ach, lieben Christen, seid getrost, BWV 114, is one of the pieces in my topic of this year. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:56, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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AutoEd config

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(from User talk:Citation bot) How is your AutoEd configured that it managed to alter a |pages= parameter to |📃= in Special:Diff/1246281475? Please take a look so future errors may be avoided. Thanks! Folly Mox (talk) 11:42, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AutoEd did not make the change, I did. – S. Rich (talk) 20:22, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In that same diff, you or a script broke properly spaced author initials by removing the spaces. Please correct your script or other editing method. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:15, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – October 2024

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Jstor

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Hi, rather than just removing vague "via JSTOR"s it would be more helpful to add a proper link to the JSTOR papers, Cheers, Johnbod (talk) 14:27, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. It would be nice to find the JSTOR link. But that is not on my agenda. Rather, there are 6,000 "via JSTOR"s listed on my search. If the cite is using a {{JSTOR= 123455 template, then we see JSTOR with a blue link. I'm seeking to remove the redundant blue link clutter. – S. Rich (talk) 16:53, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A change to your "agenda" would vastly increase the actual utility of your many edits. In most cases the correct JSTOR link should be super-easy to find. The "clutter" is pretty harmless, frankly. Johnbod (talk) 15:05, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October thanks

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story · music · places

Thank you for improving articles on October! - My story today is a cantata 300 years old, based on a hymn 200 years old when the cantata was composed, based on a psalm some thousand years old, - so said the 2015 DYK hook. I had forgotten the discussion on the talk. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy whatever you celebrate today, - more who died, more to come, and they made the world richer. Greetings from Madrid where I took the pic of assorted Cucurbita in 2016. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Full width replacement

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Please make sure you don't accidentally replace full width punctuation when used in quotations with other full width characters, where its use is correct. Remsense ‥  16:38, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no, I am also seeing that you are automatically replacing the character —a very common character, meaning 'one'—with the sequence . I strongly suggest you go back through your edit history and fix instances where you did this. Remsense ‥  16:42, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue 222, October 2024

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Nominations now open for the WikiProject Military history newcomer of the year and military historian of the year

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Nominations now open for the WikiProject Military History newcomer of the year and military historian of the year awards for 2024! The the top editors will be awarded the coveted Gold Wiki. Nominations are open here and here respectively. The nomination period closes at 23:59 on 30 November 2024 when voting begins. On behalf of the coordinators, wishing you the very best for the festive season and the new year. MediaWiki message delivery via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:21, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]