User talk:Heartfox
Promotion of Can't Let Go (Mariah Carey song)[edit]
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Your draft article, Draft:List of works on Mariah Carey[edit]
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Hello, Heartfox. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "List of works on Mariah Carey".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 19:57, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
New Zealand citation[edit]
Hi Heartfox, You are using the {{certification Table Entry}} incorrectly. If you want to use the |source=book
option for New Zealand, then |id=
needs to be the page number in Scapolo's book. Also, if you think the template provides incorrect sales amounts, please discuss this at Template talk:Certification Table Entry. You will find that the sales amounts were usually established after reaching consensus and using reliable sources, though we may always be wrong. If you need any help using the template, let me know and I'd be happy to help. --Muhandes (talk) 20:58, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- If you have access to the physical book like I have then you would know that it does not have page numbers and so I used "Mariah Carey" as a pseudo-page number as it is used as a heading in the book. Multi-platinum certifications were only awarded from 1999. "Platinum" albums before this time means shipments 15,000 and above. The book specifies what the "above" number is, yet you are reverting them because the template is inherently flawed. Heartfox (talk) 21:16, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Heartfox. I don't have access to the actual book and never have. However, when the {{cite Scapolo}} template was created, it was done so at the request of an editor who mentioned it includes page numbers. Are you referring to just the Mariah Carey page or the entire book? Perhaps you are using a different edition? If so, we may need to update the template accordingly. If we don't find another solution, the way you handled it might be acceptable; I don't have a better alternative. Assuming no better solution is found, please add a comment when you restore the edits so other editors are aware and don't revert it by mistake. Regarding the certified amounts, if I understand correctly, the book specifies the exact amount for each album. That's excellent. In this case, simply use the
|salesref=
parameter to indicate this, so the pages don't appear on my cleanup list. This would mean the entire thing will look like:{{certification Table Entry|type=album|region=New Zealand|award=Platinum|source=book|salesamount=15,000|id=Mariah Carey<!--No page numbers-->|refname=Scapolo|salesref=<ref name=Scapolo/>}}
. This should raise less alarms. Is it acceptable? Muhandes (talk) 06:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC) - Just some additional data. I found the original discussion from 2018. Perhaps MrLinkinPark333 or Harout72 would like to comment on the missing page numbers and on the solution you suggested. Also, I notice the template was used very little. --Muhandes (talk) 07:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't have a physical copy of Scapolo. In that discussion, I mentioned @Richard3120: updated Wuthering Heights (song) with a page number from Scapolo .I'm not sure if it's the same version or if page numbers do exist in the book.. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- As far as I am aware, Dean Scapolo has released two editions of his New Zealand Charts book, the first covering 1966 to 1996, and the updated version to 2006. The latter is in the British Library, and it most certainly has page numbers – I've noted many of them down for various song articles that I have worked on. Richard3120 (talk) 01:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Only the foreword area has page numbers. The actual hundreds of pages with the chart peaks doesn't have page numbers, at least with the 1966-2006 edition I am viewing. Heartfox (talk) 02:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Which is weird, because I have a load of page numbers for various artists that I copied down from the book. Richard3120 (talk) 14:52, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Only the foreword area has page numbers. The actual hundreds of pages with the chart peaks doesn't have page numbers, at least with the 1966-2006 edition I am viewing. Heartfox (talk) 02:26, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- As far as I am aware, Dean Scapolo has released two editions of his New Zealand Charts book, the first covering 1966 to 1996, and the updated version to 2006. The latter is in the British Library, and it most certainly has page numbers – I've noted many of them down for various song articles that I have worked on. Richard3120 (talk) 01:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't have a physical copy of Scapolo. In that discussion, I mentioned @Richard3120: updated Wuthering Heights (song) with a page number from Scapolo .I'm not sure if it's the same version or if page numbers do exist in the book.. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Heartfox. I don't have access to the actual book and never have. However, when the {{cite Scapolo}} template was created, it was done so at the request of an editor who mentioned it includes page numbers. Are you referring to just the Mariah Carey page or the entire book? Perhaps you are using a different edition? If so, we may need to update the template accordingly. If we don't find another solution, the way you handled it might be acceptable; I don't have a better alternative. Assuming no better solution is found, please add a comment when you restore the edits so other editors are aware and don't revert it by mistake. Regarding the certified amounts, if I understand correctly, the book specifies the exact amount for each album. That's excellent. In this case, simply use the
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My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy 4th FAC[edit]
I have brought this article to FAC again and after your comments the previous times, would you care to contribute again? K. Peake 06:06, 5 July 2024 (UTC)