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Template:Cite certification

User:Muhandes and User:Anomie: The two edits here Special:Diff/1253576690/1257464120 caused a flood of tracking category entries in Category:CS1 errors: archive-url as can be seen in 2 Times cite #62. I'm not expert enough to figure it out. Can you take a look? -- GreenC 00:42, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

My edit had nothing to do with it. It was just fixing a similar flood of entries in Category:Articles with dead external links by adding a date to the {{dead link}} included in there. Anomie⚔ 00:45, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

OK. Started a discussion at Template_talk:Cite_certification#Tracking_category_problems, follow up there. -- GreenC 01:03, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

@GreenC and Anomie: I believe the issue was resolved; see details at Template talk:Cite certification#Tracking category problems. Let me know if there are any problems and, of course, feel free to revert. Note a related request to resolve the dead link issue at Wikipedia:Link rot/URL change requests#nztop40.co.nz redirect and restructure. Muhandes (talk) 15:51, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

OK thank you. I'll probably never understand how this caused the effects at Category:CS1 errors: archive-url ie. populated with 4k members, plus the creation of a sub-category under the "O" heading (the letter), which was also populated with the same 4k members. It was a head twister. But anyway glad the fix works! The cat looks normal now. -- GreenC 18:26, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

@GreenC I suppose what caused the category flood was this. It added an archive-url without archive-date, which I should have anticipated. I'm not sure how a sub-category was created. Anyway, lesson learned. Muhandes (talk) 23:35, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

I see. If you still want to use the same date for every URL, that is possible. Like you could use a snapshot date of 20200101010101 and archive-date of 2020-01-01 and it will redirect to a nearby working snapshot date. -- GreenC 01:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

These are 4k different links and I don't know if they all have archives. I rather we resolve this properly, when you get to it. Muhandes (talk) 08:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Temp.

Coincidentally, there's something about {{Cite certificate}} above. Anyway, is there a way there can be a {{Cite single}} or {{Cite song}}? Open for suggestions/discussion if anything can be done. dxneo (talk) 13:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

@Dxneo: I don't understand what you are proposing. {{cite certification}} is a template used to ease the citation of the various certification authorities in different regions of the world. Developing it (together with {{Certification Table Entry}} and the rest of the certification table mechanics) took about 8 months of my time if I recall correctly, but it was worth it for a template now used in more than 38,000 articles. What would the proposed citation templates do? Where would they be used? Muhandes (talk) 13:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

8 months? I don't think my idea is worth that much time. The template would work just like Cite certification, but for charts. If {{Cite certification}} goes with {{Certification Table Entry}}, then {{Cite single}} would be a companion of {{Single chart}}

Let's say I'm writing about We Don't Trust You. "" Like That" peaked at #1 on the Hot 100", instead of using the Billboard URL to create a ref, I use {{Cite single}}

If it were to happen, it would be way more complex since not every chart site got simple archives like Billboard, and there are way more charts than certifications. So, let's forget I ever mentioned this. Thanks for listening. dxneo (talk) 20:49, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

@Dxneo: What you’re suggesting essentially amounts to re-creating {{single chart}} and {{album chart}}. I’m not saying it’s unnecessary—those templates are poorly written, predate my involvement, and I’ve wanted to overhaul them for more than a decade but never found the time. However, there are significant challenges. First, there has never been much demand for such an update. The existing templates already handle reference reuse within articles, which covers about 90% of cases. Second, a project like this requires someone willing to maintain the templates long-term, and with my uncertain health, I can’t take on that role. Third, this isn’t something that can be done alone. When I developed {{cite certification}}, a collaborative community was there to help troubleshoot and refine it, but that kind of support network no longer exists.
I’m not entirely opposed to the idea—it’s something I’d still consider—but now isn’t the right time to pursue it. I’m sorry if this response is disappointing. Muhandes (talk) 12:24, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

I understand. So sorry about your health. I'll try to gather a team of template editors and see if they are interested. Off topic, for months I have been planning on nominating you for adminship, your work around here and the way you interact with people is nothing short of amazing. Take care! dxneo (talk) 15:28, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

@Dxneo: If you can find another template editor willing to collaborate on this endeavor, it would address most of my concerns. As for adminship, I appreciate the thought, but the process demands significant time and effort from both the nominee and the community, making me question whether pursuing the mop is truly worthwhile. Muhandes (talk) 16:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

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Important eclipse!

My edits are not disruptive! The eclipse is a monumental occurrence. Liamlalaliam (talk) 19:51, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

@Liamlalaliam: Please read WP:BRD. If someone reverts you then you discuss it with them. Repeating the edit without discussion is disruptive. If you want to discuss it, use the article's talk page. Muhandes (talk) 07:57, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

I repeated the edit because I couldn't find the message box. I apologize. Liamlalaliam (talk) 17:39, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

PMB certifications levels

Moved to Template talk:Certification Table Entry § PMB certifications levels

 – Muhandes (talk) 13:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Closer than Close (Rosie Gaines song)

Hello, you left a message on my talk page a week ago and I replied the same day, but I think you haven't noticed. It was about the song Closer than Close (Rosie Gaines song). I'd appreciate if you could check my reply here. Goldlinexy (talk) 09:42, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

@Goldlinexy It seems like Twinkle does not automatically subscribe me to discussions so I should probably take care to manually subscribe after Twinkle leaves a message. If you want to be certain I read the message, {{ping}} me.
Anyway, now that a source exists, the certification can be updated, which I did here. Muhandes (talk) 10:30, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

New Zealand Certifications

Hello, I just wanted to ask inquire about the new template for the New Zealand Certifications as it is not available,the certifications are now avaiable at the Radioscope website, would be really helpful if you could help create a new one for it. This is the website for the certifications (https://www.radioscope.co.nz/2024/00/00/single-cert-search/) for Singles, and (https://www.radioscope.co.nz/2024/00/00/album-cert-search/) for Albums. Kneetoks (talk) 19:44, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

@Kneetoks: The New Zealand certification is available through their new website using |source=newchart. Using the radioscope website is an interesting idea but it seems to require manual search and I'm not sure how the URL works. Why don't you start discussion at Template talk:Cite certification? I suggest also a mention at Template talk:Certification Table Entry. Muhandes (talk) 15:35, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I just did that, Thanks. Muhandes Kneetoks (talk) 17:24, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Coldplay's "Paradise"

Moved to Template talk:Certification Table Entry § Coldplay's "Paradise"

 – Muhandes (talk) 08:04, 19 December 2024 (UTC)