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Plants vs. Zombies (disambiguation)

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Only the first game and the franchise go by the name of just simply "Plants vs. Zombies" meaning that this disambiguation page is absolutely not needed. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 00:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Video games and Disambiguations. C F A 💬 00:44, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The article doesn't disambiguate anything, Zxcvbnm's statement is right, and Sergecross is also right. MK at your service. 12:48, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

* Speedy Keep Sources were easy to find that call the games Plants vs. Zombies 2 etc. Dr vulpes (Talk) 00:57, 4 September 2024 (UTC) [reply]

- ~~Snow, Nathan (2017-04-28). "Plants vs Zombies Heroes great strategy intro". The Daily Spectrum. Saint George, Utah, United States of America. pp. A4. Retrieved 2024-09-03.~~
- Delete I'm a fool and managed to misread multiple things. Dr vulpes (Talk) 02:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What does that have to do with the disambiguation page? No one is suggesting we delete Plants vs. Zombies 2 page itself... Sergecross73 msg me 01:52, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oops I thought they were talking about the game titles having more content in them then just Plants vs Zombies. Guess I misread that one! Dr vulpes (Talk) 02:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, kind of figured it was something like that. Sergecross73 msg me 03:47, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but those games are not called Plants Vs. Zombies. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:06, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not actually a disambiguation page, and this series is too small to need a list. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- generally speaking, pages in a disambiguation page generally must only include entities that go by the exact same name. Say for example, Mega Man (disambiguation) only includes entities titled "Mega Man" as opposed to including entities without the exact common name such as Mega Man II or Mega Man X. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 02:27, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Yes, and this series only has two, the series and the first game, so this page should be deleted. QuicoleJR (talk) 09:38, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Nothing to disambiguate and has no content not already in Plants vs. Zombies. cyberdog958^Talk 05:56, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Plants vs. Zombies already exists, which lists all PvZ games. There is no reason to disambiguate the topic. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 10:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete A DAB page is not a search index. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:03, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Agree per above. No one refers to Plants vs Zombies 2 as simply Plants vs Zombies. This is an example of WP:ONEOTHER even though a few more items are listed JuniperChill (talk) 11:19, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: WP:REDUNFORK of Plants vs. Zombies Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 11:32, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - appears to have been created by a newer editor who probably doesn't understand the purpose for r concept of a dab page, because this doesn't serve one. Sergecross73 msg me 12:35, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete no disambiguation needed. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:46, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Covet Fashion

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lacks significant coverage from reliable sources, failing to meet Wikipedia's notability standards. Loewstisch (talk) 13:54, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete VICE is major significant coverage, and I found additional SIGCOV here in this physical book, but Venture Beat seems more like an interview/primary source. I am not seeing GNG being passed here. If others discover more, I am willing to change my opinion. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:58, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vector TDx

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Got reviews from IGN and PocketGamer, everything else is an unreliable source or trivial mention. Attempts to find significant coverage in magazines failed. Doesn't seem to pass the notability threshold for a new article. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:27, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:GNG. Could not find more sources about this game. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I think this might get there. Small review from The Guardian [1]. My read of WP:SALON.COM is that it's borderline as a source. ~ A412 ^talk! 15:35, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's fairly small, so I won't immediately withdraw the nomination, though I do admit that it might push people to "weak keep". Now I essentially have no opinion about whether it should get deleted or not. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:06, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I dug through the web and found few more sources: Four more passing mentions on IGN, JayIsGames (twice), Four more passing mentions on Kotaku, and a few more articles on PocketGamer (1, 2, 3, 4). Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 10:16, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fred Haslam (game designer)

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Nothing notable about this individual (at least according to this article) Theknine2 (talk) 15:32, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to SimCity 2000#Development, which has the most information out of his associated works. Couldn't find so much as an interview. ~ A412 ^talk! 17:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gravonaut

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Little reliable source coverage outside of these sources: [2], [3] TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 17:10, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment added those sources into the article, did some other tweaks as well. The standards for inclusion on mainspace have, at least in my opinion, definitely changed since when I first made this article in 2012. I would say keep with the added sources/changes. But I think some of this information can at least be reworked into GameSalad. Soulbust (talk) 19:54, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with GameSalad: Seems to fail WP:GNG. I've tried looking for more sources, but could not find any. The Gamasutra, Kotaku, and IGN refs are only passing mentions and are mostly focused on GameSalad itself. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 10:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

David Scott (video game developer)

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The sources provided are WP:PASSINGMENTION quick google search reveals no info about him entirely which make this article fails WP:NBIO Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 03:28, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Looks like he is not like giving interviews. Vitaly Zdanevich (talk) 07:21, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pokémon GO Battle League

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This article was AfD'd three years ago and kept under a consensus, but I don't believe this article is meeting notability standards separate from the original subject. The sources brought up during the AfD (And the ones many voted Keep for) were all primarily game guide content that discussed upcoming changes to a game mechanic. This is pretty standard and routine coverage, and is frequent in any game that has online features. There was one TheGamer article discussing a controversial aspect, but again, it's nothing that proves separate notability, as it only discusses this mechanic's impact within the Pokémon Go community, and the change itself didn't have any lasting impact from what I could find. When I searched for sources, there was basically only game guide content: things like new Season updates, new Pokémon additions, etc, but these don't show notability inherently separate from Pokémon Go and are pretty standard coverage. There's no Reception, analysis, or really any information showing why this subject is important outside of the scope of the Pokémon Go player base. I could potentially see a SIZESPLIT argument (The Pokémon Go article is relatively big) but this article's content is basically entirely useless information documenting season updates and trivial information like what Pokémon are banned in a given season. This is information largely irrelevant to the average reader and skews the line of unnecessary detail. I feel this information could easily be merged into the main article- with a brief summary of gameplay and some information of its use in Championships- but there is no rationale for an article split. There is no separate notability established, no real rationale to justify a split from the main article, and no real content that makes a new article necessary. I don't believe this article has anything to stand on its own, and is better off partially merged back into the main article. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:16, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Video games. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:16, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Pokemon Go per nom. This is just one of the many features present in Pokemon Go, and in no way demonstrates any kind of notability independent of the game as a whole where a split would be warranted or make any sense. The sources included in the article and shown in the previous AFD are just run of the mill game guides and news reposts. The vast majority of this article is overly detailed information that borders on being a WP:GAMEGUIDE. The actual notable features of this game mode can and should be covered as part of the main article on the game, just like every other gameplay element is. Rorshacma (talk) 19:30, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge/Redirect per Rorshacma. Borders on WP:GAMEGUIDE and this can easily be covered at Pokemon Go after it's been cleaned up. Shooterwalker (talk) 21:24, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I am fairly confident GNG is met, but whether a separate page is warranted is a different a story (WP:PAGEDECIDE). Not sure AfD is the proper forum to discuss this. C F A 💬 03:17, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge all important details to Pokémon Go. It receives a lot of WP:ROUTINE coverage, but I don't see a need to go into this much detail on any season or even the game mode itself. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 21:00, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Ginji's Rescue Team

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I can find no Reception or sources discussing this manga. I found a brief bit in a TheGamer listicle, but that was all I could find during a search. Doesn't seem to pass the WP:GNG, though a redirect to List of Pokémon manga would serve as a viable AtD. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 17:55, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect. Does not seem notable. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 21:00, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

SureAI

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Appears to fail notability, a timeline of released works. IgelRM (talk) 17:03, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Obvious keep, extremely famous modding team/dev studio that won several mods of the year awards, plenty of IRS coverage. [4][5][6][7] This is a gross failure of WP:BEFORE. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 21:31, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"fame" is not notability and Wikipedia:NOTINHERITED. The Eurogamer feature is good, but it is not an obvious keep. The other sources don't look like significant coverage, regardless I should take a break from AFD noms for a while. IgelRM (talk) 02:47, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep meets NCORP. [8][9][10][11][12] etc. C F A 💬 23:34, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All except gamerant.com, report on the same announcement of a commercial game. IgelRM (talk) 02:49, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Does it matter? They still offer several paragraphs of significant coverage of the company. C F A 💬 03:12, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If a single event is will covered, it might make more sense to mention it, e.g. on the legacy of Nehrim, Nosgoth, than to write about the subject (similar to WP:SINGLEEVENT). IgelRM (talk) 23:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. They are one of the most well-known game modding groups.

The main issue I see is that much of what I added to the history section uses SureAI's self-published timeline as the main reference, but the page was established as notable before I even did this. I think better sources may be needed, but that doesn't qualify this for deletion. TheSmumbo (talk) 03:11, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just to explain my reasoning, I did not nominate because of the use of self-published sources. I think the article does not go beyond a database entry and I could not find sources to change that. IgelRM (talk) 23:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Fails WP:CORP. The Eurogamer article is the only one that is significant coverage, not enough to meet notability. The rest are news stories that focus on the games they were developing, not the company. They don't "address the subject of the article directly and in depth". See also WP:CORPDEPTH: There should be "coverage that provides an organization with a level of attention that extends well beyond brief mentions and routine announcements". All of these news articles are just that "routine announcements", not significant coverage of the company. --Mika1h (talk) 09:30, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Each article has at least 1-2 paragraphs of coverage of the company. Some have more. Sure, I wouldn't say it's an "obvious keep", but I do think the coverage adds up to NCORP. C F A 💬 16:18, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:CORPDEPTH: "collection of multiple trivial sources does not become significant". --Mika1h (talk) 22:48, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Several paragraphs about the company is nowhere near "trivial". Some of the articles aren't entirely about the company itself, and instead focus on the company's games, but they still offer some significant coverage that counts towards NCORP. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. C F A 💬 00:10, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A modding team, that won multiple awards, including The Game Awards for best fan creation (2016), multiple mods of year awards from several publications, now a full game studio with several releases.

That's like saying Christopher Nolan isn't notable, only his movies are. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:37, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No it's not, organizations have higher notability requirements than people. Coverage of companies products doesn't contribute to the notability of the company. --Mika1h (talk) 22:48, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if Mr. Nolan has no sourcing about him, we can't create an article for him. Oaktree b (talk) 00:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It really depends on how much weight we give the Eurogamer feature (which also intends to highlight modding in general). In my view, because the majority of information here can only be gleaned from primary source, a good legacy section on Enderal would make more sense. IgelRM (talk) 00:17, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This would be a good compromise. TheSmumbo (talk) 05:25, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Enderal, their most notable project. This is why I don't like the extreme narrowing of CORP that has taken place over the last several years. Yes keeping commercial spam off of Wikipedia is important, but removing coverage of organizations(including one that in this case was originally not for profit) that produce notable products doesn't help our readers if the pages aren't poorly written promos, as this one is not. Eluchil404 (talk) 00:02, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Coverage I find is all about Skyrim mods, I suppose we could have a brief mention there, but there isn't much of anything about this company themselves. Oaktree b (talk) 00:14, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is about SureAI themselves. Likewise, [13][14] is a two part interview of SureAI's project lead. Another on RPGWatch [15] and GamerGlobal.de [16]. This is about the future (in 2021) projects of SureAI (i.e. Dreadful River). There's plenty more, i.e. the awards they won etc.... Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:36, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Reviewing several of the above linked articles I agree there is sufficient notability and coverage that the subject is worthy of an article on Wikipedia, including the Eurogamer article and others. For clarity - WP:ORGCRIT was explicitly created to require stronger criteria are to "prevent gaming of the rules by marketing and public relations professionals", and I see no evidence of such gaming here. (For the record - I am discounting the Articy articles as these do not appear intellectually independent of the subject). ResonantDis_tortion 22:08, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mighty Rabbit Studios

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Appears to fail company notability. Limited Run Games was a division of this according to grepbeat.com, perhaps a redirect? IgelRM (talk) 16:41, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mighty rabbit and limited run were originally tied together as companies since limited run began as a division of mighty rabbit but they have more recently have separated into their own separately owned entities after limited run was purchased. where limited run is owned by embracer group, mighty rabbit remains independent. Due to this split, maintaining separate pages would likely be more accurate to their current standing 2603:6081:2100:229:C1A6:D1D4:D485:D2FD (talk) 18:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. But Limited Run Games has press coverage for notability, which Mighty Rabbit Studios unfortunately does not have sufficiently. IgelRM (talk) 23:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 18:35, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Closed discussion, see full discussion. Result was: delete

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