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September 6

Quoting sources in the citations

Is there a general guideline for quoting material from the source in citations? Particularly, approximate max length of quotes, and whether multiple quotes from the same source in different instances of a citation are counted together for copyright considerations. Thanks! Tsavage (talk) 03:12, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tsavage For example Template:Cite_book#Quote doesn't say anything on length. Guidance at MOS:QUOTE and WP:QUOTE (essay) boils down to "don't over-use." Use your best judgement, if someone disagrees, they might tell you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:49, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, well I'm one who will say that when a quotation is necessary for the article, put the quotation in the article body and cite it. Quotations require citations; citations do not require quotations. If you must put a quotation in a citation, keep it brief; don't quote paragraphs of text.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 06:45, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I entirely agree with Trappist the monk,quotations are very rarely necessary in references Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:09, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tsavage I think the most common use of quotes in references is for foreign-language sources, where it is the |trans-quote= that's most helpful to readers. In terms of copyright, I don't think it would make any difference whether the quote was in the body text or the citation. We have multiple large {{blockquote}}s in good articles like Albert Einstein. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:30, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to all! My takeaway is to use one's own judgement and be sparing in their use. Tsavage (talk) 16:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bhitarkanika national park

Please change update new website www.bhitarkanikaecoresorts.com Contact number + 91 7008748100/91 7008955210 Bhitarkanika Eco Resorts (talk) 03:47, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is not appropriate to add the website of a private resort to an article about a national park. Wikipedia is not a phone directory. Usernames that are the names of businesses are not permitted. Cullen328 (talk) 03:56, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AI-detector

I've been using https://gptzero.me/ a little, but now it thinks I've had enough freebies. Any recommendations? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:48, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Google has some suggestions for alternatives. I've not tried any of them. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:56, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Search tool

As of yesterday, you seem to have redesigned your web page. However, the SEARCH tool is missing! How are we to search for items? It is very much needed. Please put it back! Thank you. Misslucy2023 (talk) 10:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. It would help to know how you are accessing Wikipedia(desktop version, mobile version, app), but the search function is represented by a magnifying glass. In the desktop version, when at the top of a page, an entire search bar will appear in the top left corner, but if you scroll down, this is minimized to just a magnifying glass. 331dot (talk) 10:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.

I access Wikipedia via my iMac desktop, which I have done for many years without any problem. The magnifying glass symbol used to search topics is missing as of yesterday. Why? Misslucy2023 (talk) 11:01, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Misslucy2023 Is it possible you have used "zoom in" in your browser to make the text bigger, and this affected how WP-pages appear? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:21, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Try clicking on Special:Search to confirm the functionality is still there. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:48, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you viewing Wikipedia here at wiki.riteme.site? What is your skin at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering? Is search also missing when you log out? Note as said above that maybe (depending on circumstances) you only see a magnifying glass icon without a search box until you click the icon. The icon or a search box should be near the top of all pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:26, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you all for your input.

Problem has been resolved now by following one of your suggestions to zoom out.

Now everything is back to "normal". :-) Misslucy2023 (talk) 12:33, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know the magnifying glass icon can disappear at high zoom levels but I see it now. There is also a level where I see a small triangle instead. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:56, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Places near me search words

I am trying to find a way to search for places that are "near" me while driving. I know the Wikipedia mobile app DOES HAVE the "places" feature, so I assume there is a search string to use in the main web based site, but can't identify it. Alternatively I suppose an API script might help. My goal is to be able to use hands free voice commands in an iPhone "Siri" short cut to have it read Wikipedia Articles to me as I drive near places while on a road trip. Robvann (talk) 12:50, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Robvann: Can you use Special:Nearby? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:01, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that should do nicely. Thank-you.

I found I can use the search term "Special:Nearby" to get to that page for my shortcut :-) Robvann (talk) 13:08, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Access to edit history of a deleted article

How can I access the edit history of a deleted article? Who do I ask? Strangelooper (talk) 13:25, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Strangelooper Are you talking about Peter Bradley-Fulgoni? What is it you want to know from the history, or are you asking for a WP:REFUND of the content? Nthep (talk) 13:34, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can probably ask an Admin, but other than that, I honestly don't know. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 13:35, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can try your luck with Internet Archive, assuming someone already uploaded a saved version of the article you are looking for. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 16:15, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OMG! What a waste of archiving space. This URL confirms that the Internet Archive does indeed save some article page histories, not just the articles themselves. Mike Turnbull (talk) 19:47, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pure metadata about deleted articles (authors, timestamps) can be found via the API or wiki replicas. I doubt that's what Strangelooper is looking for, though. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:24, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you all for your replies. Indeed it is the contents of the edits I am after. Mike Turnbull: I couldn’t have put it better myself. A glance at the deletion discussion page will reveal how absurdly correct you are. Strangelooper (talk) 21:11, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Strangelooper I can userfy the contents for you. Before considering it for publication, it would have to address the issues raised at the deletion discussion and be mindful of WP:G4. Nthep (talk) 11:33, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This would be much appreciated Nthep. I do not wish to publish anything, only to view the contents.

Thanks a lot,

Strangelooper (talk) 12:22, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, it's at User:Strangelooper/Peter Bradley-Fulgoni. Once you've done with it, you can mark if for deletion with {{db-g7}}.Nthep (talk) 16:59, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much Nthep! I just had a look and I can’t seem to find the edit history… I’m specifically looking for an edit made in early 2012 by an unregistered user with an IP starting 192

Would it be possible for me to see any edits from around that time?

Gratefully, Strangelooper (talk) 17:06, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Strangelooper there's no edits from an IP range starting 192 anywhere in the history. Nthep (talk) 20:05, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia information on a Google My Business Listing

Hello,

I'm the owner of the business listing: MaineHealth - Maine Medical Center - Portland

There is a bunch of incorrect Wiki information appearing on the listing and I would like to have it removed. My team is not responsible for updating the info on Wiki, we just want the info to stop appearing on our business listing. 63.247.57.10 (talk) 13:40, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. The same feedback facility is also provided on Bing and some other search engines.

If you see errors which are displayed directly on the Wikipedia page Maine Medical Center and not merely on an external page linking to it then what are the errors? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:52, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

what happened to the search bar

what happened to the search bar Mom666mom (talk) 15:31, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean Special:Search? The Wikipedia search bar hasn't gone anywhere, at least on my skin (Vector 2010 legacy). If it's gone on yours, you can click on the link above, but if it truly is gone, you'd be better off asking at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Check your current list of extensions, especially for any sort of content blockers (Wikipedia doesn't have third-party advertisements or tracking like many other sites so adblockers shouldn't disable anything except potentially donation messages).

If you're having issues with a browser specifically or third-party search bar, or anything else not associated with Wikipedia, I'm afraid we cannot help you here. GeorgeMemulous (talk) 15:49, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the search bar can be hidden if there is too little space. Cliccking on the spyglass icon towards the top of the screen should display the search bar. TSventon (talk) 16:10, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Mom666mom Is it possible you have used "zoom in" in your browser to make the text bigger, and this affected how WP-pages appear? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:10, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you use the good old fashioned Vector 2010 Legacy skin, a search box will always be prominently displayed on the upper right. Politeness forbids me from giving my opinion of the developers of the "new and improved" software that frequently makes the search bar hard to find. Cullen328 (talk) 09:12, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Home Page Search button

Where is the Search button currently located on the Wikipedia home page? Lbrewer165 (talk) 20:33, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It may depend on how you are viewing Wikipedia(app, mobile, or desktop). In the desktop version, it is in the upper left corner of the screen, represented by a magnifying glass. If you scroll away from the top, the search bar minimizes to just the magnifying glass. 331dot (talk) 20:35, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WERE IS THE SEARCH BUTTON

SEARCH IS GONE VEED80 (talk) 16:46, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is not gone. Please see the answers to previous questions about this. RudolfRed (talk) 16:51, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Search box disappeared

The search box on the main page is not displayed. What can I do to bring it back? 2604:2000:8FC0:B:25FC:46EC:E511:79E (talk) 17:41, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See the previous questions on this page. If you are on mobile, see Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#No_search_box_for_default_skin RudolfRed (talk) 17:52, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

search box

the search box no longer appears on the Main Page 2604:2000:8FC0:B:25FC:46EC:E511:79E (talk) 21:27, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see #what_happened_to_the_search_bar. -- Hoary (talk) 22:46, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Age at death

Why do you list a person's age at date of death using the word, "aged" (for example, Ronald Reagan aged 93). Shouldn't it be, age 93? R.Ramsdell (talk) 20:29, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@R.Ramsdell: It's controversial. Some previous discussions: Template talk:Death date and age/Archive 1#Aged, Template talk:Death date and age/Archive 2#"Aged" is for wine and cheese. "Age" is for humans., Template talk:Death date and age/Archive 2#Use "age" instead of "aged", Template talk:Death date and age/Archive 2#"Age" versus "aged", Template talk:Death date and age/Archive 3#"Age" versus "aged": 2019. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:05, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I would say either "aged 93" or "at the age of 93". "Age 93" seems incomplete.--User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 21:26, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Contrariwise, to me "age 93" seems like an ordinal, which is reasonable (perhaps because "page 93" is normal), while "aged 93" or "at the age of 93" seems to lack something (93 what?). —Tamfang (talk) 01:25, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]