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Administrators' newsletter – August 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2024).
Technical news
- Global blocks may now target accounts as well as IP's. Administrators may locally unblock when appropriate.
- Users wishing to permanently leave may now request "vanishing" via Special:GlobalVanishRequest. Processed requests will result in the user being renamed, their recovery email being removed, and their account being globally locked.
Arbitration
- The Arbitration Committee appointed the following administrators to the conflict of interest volunteer response team: Bilby, Extraordinary Writ
Hello there,
seeing that the "quality" of the additions continues to be very poor, i have no other option than to report this other sock, Heavenlyjump. Have already lost track of: 1 - the number of socks; 2 - the number of times they say "Who, me?" whenever they're caught!
Attentively, happy editing RevampedEditor (talk) 16:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Well, that one's pretty blatant. I'd normally direct you at WP:SPI but here, it's just so obvious. I'll go and block. --Yamla (talk) 16:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
Dunno why i keep bothering, because: 1 - no way this person is going to stop; 2 - i see no range block will ever be enforced, but here is the new sock, Screamofpain.
Attentively, happy rest of your week (and seeing you are a Python fan as seen below, here's this treat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2ViNJFZC8)!
Legobro
I agree, but I was just trying to put a cork in the socking for the foreseeable future. -- Ponyobons mots 23:04, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Heh. Maybe I should have just been quiet. But, yeesh. --Yamla (talk) 23:05, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- It was a bit of a manipulative on my part, but I thought it worth a try. -- Ponyobons mots 23:10, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- Much love for Monty Python. The first time I watched Life of Brian, I laughed so much, my stomach hurt the next day. :) --Yamla (talk) 23:11, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
- It was a bit of a manipulative on my part, but I thought it worth a try. -- Ponyobons mots 23:10, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
User talk:Yamla/talk and User talk:Yamla/talk/talk and so on
I hope you are aware. Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 15:50, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think the point of protecting his user talk page was so he would not have to look at crap like that. I see no point in bringing harassment to his attention. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:56, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. Nobody on Wikipedia wants to hear from that troll. Hopefully they eventually realise nobody cares or even bothers to read what they write, and they go away. --Yamla (talk) 15:59, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, just going to delete it Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 15:59, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed we are all aware of this person. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 16:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 14 August 2024
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- In focus: Twitter marks the spot
- News and notes: Another Wikimania has concluded.
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- Opinion: HouseBlaster's RfA debriefing
- Traffic report: Ball games, movies, elections, but nothing really weird
- Humour: I'm proud to be a template
Request to Unblock Website URL betterauds.com
Dear Yamla,
I am reaching out regarding the global block of my website URL, [https://betterauds.com/]. I understand that this action was taken due to un reletead one page create some one. Since then, I have made significant changes to address the issues, including changes.
I kindly request your assistance in reviewing my case and considering the unblocking of my website. Your guidance on how I can further ensure compliance with Wikipedia’s guidelines would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you for your time and consideration.
Best regards Seoexperteam (talk) 05:08, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- That website has no business on Wikipedia. --Yamla (talk) 10:15, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
CanadianHistory (MMA & History)
In his request to being unbanned, CanadianHistorian claims not to have engaged in sock puppetry. It is true that there has been no confirmed case of sock puppetry, there is an investigation of him going here Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/CanadianHistorian(MMA & History). Thank you for your time and best wishes. --A.S. Brown (talk) 00:35, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
Sockpuppet
Just thought I would signal that User:ESC200 is a self admitted sockpuppet of banned User:Rio0601 2A01:CB1D:9267:A700:18B:C2C1:9FDF:9F5B (talk) 14:58, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, blocked. --Yamla (talk) 15:39, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
IPBE refreshing request
Hello, dear Yamla. Being in a country/region in the world with inconvenient Internet access, I've still been using proxies to edit Wikipedia. My IPBE will transpire in September of this year. Could you grant me another one? I would greatly appreciate it if you granted me a longer one (longer than one-year duration). Thanks for your understanding and assistance, sir! --波斯波莉斯 (talk) 03:52, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Granted, see your talk page. --Yamla (talk) 11:36, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Admin's Barnstar |
| Dealing with unblock requests is tough. A few years ago, CAT:RFU was my main activity for a week or two, but back then I eventually gave up on an ever-increasing backlog and enormous amounts of time spent per request, just to be rewarded with people continuing to do what they did before the block. Thank you very much for your patience and frustration tolerance in preventing CAT:RFU from breaking down. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:02, 26 August 2024 (UTC) |
- As JBW has pointed out ([1]), there is more than just one administrator who should get this barnstar, and if you know of more, please let me know! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm going to miss several, I'm sure of it! For those I miss, I promise you it's not anything personal! 331dot and Deepfriedokra, both of whom you already got. Ponyo and JJMC89 and jpgordon and PhilKnight. And the aforementioned people who I shamefully forgot to list, but also do excellent work with the unblock requests. --Yamla (talk) 20:55, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
Returned blocked member causing trouble again
Hello Yamla! Sorry to trouble you but a while back you helped with a troublesome member who turned out to be a previously blocked member called Mickeydee15. That original conversation was here. It resulted in the pest having several of their accounts blocked such as this one. Sadly they continue to be a nuisance under a new guise 142.126.247.127, their form is as before in that they edit filmographies to add rowspans & at the same time bulk remove data-sort-values without any explanation (also often references too). Such as on this page. I had hoped to avoid going to Admins by taking the time to explain to them what data-sort-values are for & how they work (I tried here & here) but to no avail. Though by their own admission they don't understand what data-sort-values are for or how they work, they persist in removing them without any explanation. I've tried fixing the removals where I can but on that last article they just blithely change back & I can't revert again or will cross into edit warring. So I'm having to report them as a block evasion to try & nip this in the bud. They seem to be a serial block evader as they are using multiple IPs, another is 209.226.247.8. You can see all the same traits there, editing filmographies to add rowspans, removing data-sort along with getting reverted by many other editors trying to do actual work. They seem to particularly like to work on Blue Bloods related pages, many of the IP edits there are different guises of this same person. Sorry again for bringing this to your door, I'd hoped my explaining what data-sort values are for would help them to understand & guide them to being a helpful member instead, but I failed.:(
I'm going to ping Girth Summit into this conversation too as they were the ones that recognised Mickeydee15 before. Thank-you for your time & any help, LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 23:27, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I just noticed that both you & Girth Summit have busy/going on holiday notices on your pages, so I'll also ping Ad Orientem in case you are otherwise engaged. I hope you enjoy your trip! Take care, LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 07:11, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi LooksGreatInATurtleNeck. 209.226.247.8 hasn't edited in 2 weeks so unfortunately, that is stale and not actionable. I have blocked 142.126.247.127 x 1 month based on behavior evidence and the geolocation of the IP address which is roughly in line with the other suspected IPs. Unfortunately, I suspect that this will be little more than a speed bump for them and there really isn't much we can do about it other than to play wack-a-mole with their IP addresses. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:36, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Ad Orientem! Thank-you kindly for taking time to help again, I really appreciate it.
- "Unfortunately, I suspect that this will be little more than a speed bump for them and there really isn't much we can do about it other than to play wack-a-mole with their IP addresses" Sadly that's what I figured too. :( I had spotted that they had returned not long after the first ban but for a while they seemed to hold back on the mass removal of data-sort-values. When I did spot them doing it again, I'd hoped to explain what it's for so they would stop. I just don't understand the mindset at play, why delete something they clearly don't understand? Apart from spoiling the work of others, it also helps identify them as the same person.
- What should I do about the Gregory Smith article, they reverted my last reversion of theirs & I can't revert again without it looking like edit warring. Take care, LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 15:53, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @LooksGreatInATurtleNeck I took care of it. However, and for future reference, reverting edits by obvious socks or block evading IPs is one of the few exceptions to 3RR. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:01, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Ad Orientem! Thanks for taking care of it. "reverting edits by obvious socks or block evading IPs is one of the few exceptions to 3RR" I figured that would likely be the case but wanted to be cautious not to overstep. I've seen a few editors get sucked into trouble in the pursuit of pests like this before. Thank-you again for your time on this! Take care, LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 16:06, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Happy to help. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:12, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Ad Orientem! Thanks for taking care of it. "reverting edits by obvious socks or block evading IPs is one of the few exceptions to 3RR" I figured that would likely be the case but wanted to be cautious not to overstep. I've seen a few editors get sucked into trouble in the pursuit of pests like this before. Thank-you again for your time on this! Take care, LooksGreatInATurtleNeck (talk) 16:06, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- @LooksGreatInATurtleNeck I took care of it. However, and for future reference, reverting edits by obvious socks or block evading IPs is one of the few exceptions to 3RR. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:01, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi LooksGreatInATurtleNeck. 209.226.247.8 hasn't edited in 2 weeks so unfortunately, that is stale and not actionable. I have blocked 142.126.247.127 x 1 month based on behavior evidence and the geolocation of the IP address which is roughly in line with the other suspected IPs. Unfortunately, I suspect that this will be little more than a speed bump for them and there really isn't much we can do about it other than to play wack-a-mole with their IP addresses. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:36, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Making it easy for you User talk:Catscute Knitsey (talk) 20:38, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yeesh. Well, slightly better than the completely implausible denials. I'll go block. --Yamla (talk) 20:43, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Appeal on hold
Trying to catch you before you head off in to the great vast North (where Off! is not optional). Discussion at this appeal you put on hold seems to have petered out. Should it be closed one way or another? I've spend this week reviewing some of the oldest open appeals and there's very little low-hanging fruit. There are a few where I've spend easily a half hour to an hour reviewing all of the edit history, discussions, cross-wiki behaviour and so on and then just thrown my hands up because I can't decide whether to unblock.-- Ponyobons mots 20:58, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Good question. I think it's probably worth unblocking. You are welcome to do so now, or I'll do it when I'm back on Tuesday/early Wednesday. Why not right now? I'd like to monitor for further violations and won't be able to do so for the next few days. Thanks for bringing this back to my attention! --Yamla (talk) 21:00, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sure it can hold until you're back. I'll be away until Wednesday as well, so here's wishing you a very un-laborious Labour Day long weekend! -- Ponyobons mots 21:23, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Note
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Akshadev
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Correctinformer007&redlink=1
(very similar sock pattern) Cenderabird (talk) 13:53, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Devil007priyanshu&redlink=1 Cenderabird (talk) 13:57, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
User considering retirement
I expect to retire and hence shut down my user accounts on wikipedia. When you have time, could you delete all of my sandboxes, talkpages, archives etc. My main account has been as shaidar cuebiyar. Secondary/additional accounts included User:Ulterior aurum and User:Road to Oblivion. Thank you.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 22:30, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- No need for me to be involved. You can tag the pages you want deleted using Template:Db-g7. Provided you are the only one who made substantial edits to the page, it will then be deleted. Where others have made substantial edits, there are likely no grounds for the page to be deleted. --Yamla (talk) 11:18, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your consideration and clarification, bye.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 04:14, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2024).
Guideline and policy news
- Following an RfC, there is a new criterion for speedy deletion: C4, which
applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past
. - A request for comment is open to discuss whether Notability (species) should be adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
Arbitration
- Following a motion, remedies 5.1 and 5.2 of World War II and the history of Jews in Poland (the topic and interaction bans on My very best wishes, respectively) were repealed.
- Remedy 3C of the German war effort case ("Cinderella157 German history topic ban") was suspended for a period of six months.
- The arbitration case Historical Elections is currently open. Proposed decision is expected by 3 September 2024 for this case.
Miscellaneous
- Editors can now enter into good article review circles, an alternative for informal quid pro quo arrangements, to have a GAN reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
- A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in September 2024 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,900 articles and 26,200 redirects awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!
SockPuppet Investigation
Hi @Yamla: you blocked NEET Scam indefinitely another similar account appears in the name User:Das capitalist. what is interesting the day you blocked @Neet Scam, this @Das capitalist account was created in the same day. Please do an investigation it appears to be a sock. And also revert his edit. If its an sock. Thanks 2409:40E0:101B:EB73:8DAD:12EC:1066:59BF (talk) 09:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeap, though already blocked by a different admin. --Yamla (talk) 10:44, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Cognition
In one ticket, he was looking for someone courageous enough to unblock. Maybe now he understands it will require a community discussion with little likelihood of success. I'll carry it over, but I doubt it will carry. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know! --Yamla (talk) 10:44, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
The Signpost: 4 September 2024
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- Traffic report: After the gold rush
New and unusual users
You're going on another vacation? I hope you realize you've used up the amount of vacation Wikipedia permits administrators, so this one won't be paid. Camping again?
See the deleted Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/S0091. There's no merit to the allegations of socking by S0091. I'm not as sure about SunnyScion, but the one that principally concerns me is StrongDeterrence. Their activity is not the stuff of a new user. Enough to take a look?--Bbb23 (talk) 17:23, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Partly camping, partly visiting friends and in-laws, partly observing the dark night sky. I'll expect the Foundation to cover my fuel costs at least. Or alternatively, pay me the standard vacation rate. As that's zero, that's probably what they'll go with :) This time, I'll probably have my laptop with me so won't be completely offline.
- StrongDeterrence reminds me of Shewasafairy. The last sock there is probably Comintell. There's at least one other LTA who targets articles like this, I just can't recall off the top of my head. What is your opinion? Honestly, I'm inclined to seek a second opinion before running the CU tools here. --Yamla (talk) 19:43, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with you about Shewasafairy in terms of kinds of edits, but although there is a significant amount of article intersection among the confirmed socks, StrongDeterrence intersects on only one article, Writesonic. See report. At the same time, the intersection on Writesonic is pretty telling. Comintell was trashing the article's notability and promotional content, and ShowDeterrence nominated the article for deletion. Are you talking about a "second opinion" of another CheckUser?--Bbb23 (talk) 20:01, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah. I'll email someone. If the overlap was tighter here, I think it would be a slam dunk. But it's a case where I'd like someone else with CU to agree before running a check, to avoid problems. I'll let you know what they say! --Yamla (talk) 20:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Shewasafairy. Inconclusive due to proxy use, but that's sufficiently suspicious so a temporary indefinite block is now in place. --Yamla (talk) 22:53, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:52, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- I would look at User:Brandon too.. ive seen the exact same editing and focus from his account.. its so blatant i wonder if the account was hacked. SunnyScion (talk) 15:04, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- That's a pretty serious charge to make against an administrator without a speck of evidence.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:52, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Your right, i didnt do any interaction history to find specific pages they edited on but they were talking about editing focus on tech and depreciating the pages while removing sources. T
- His account seems to be doing the same thing, over the same period, in the same field. SunnyScion (talk) 16:39, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- That's a pretty serious charge to make against an administrator without a speck of evidence.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:52, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Shewasafairy. Inconclusive due to proxy use, but that's sufficiently suspicious so a temporary indefinite block is now in place. --Yamla (talk) 22:53, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah. I'll email someone. If the overlap was tighter here, I think it would be a slam dunk. But it's a case where I'd like someone else with CU to agree before running a check, to avoid problems. I'll let you know what they say! --Yamla (talk) 20:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with you about Shewasafairy in terms of kinds of edits, but although there is a significant amount of article intersection among the confirmed socks, StrongDeterrence intersects on only one article, Writesonic. See report. At the same time, the intersection on Writesonic is pretty telling. Comintell was trashing the article's notability and promotional content, and ShowDeterrence nominated the article for deletion. Are you talking about a "second opinion" of another CheckUser?--Bbb23 (talk) 20:01, 4 September 2024 (UTC)