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Proposed move of The Treble (rugby league)

Hello, I was wondering if the page should perhaps be moved to "List of rugby teams which have won the Treble" since it is more about the teams and less about the actual concept. Relabelling will make the purpose of the article clearer. Also, it could use some sources. Nice article apart from that. Happy Squirrel (talk) 01:24, 7 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, if you're going to merge all the info from Sheffield Eagles (1984) into Sheffield Eagles, remember to redirect the 1984 article to the current one in order to avoid having multiple articles on the same subject. Cheers RugbyXIII (talk) 21:07, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to butt in to your merging of the Sheffield Eagles articles, but I have fixed a few of your errors. If the person who originally split the article into two articles decides to oppose the merger, I suggest you start a discussion about it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rugby league before re-merging the articles, as this could cause an edit war. Cheers RugbyXIII (talk) 22:45, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Sheffield Eagles

I am going to have to back User:Mooretwin here Northern, as the old Sheffield Eagles and the current Sheffield Eagles are actually different clubs. A merger of the two articles Sheffield Eagles and Sheffield Eagles (1984) is not required. If you think I'm wrong and MooreTwin is wrong, please start a dicussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby league and try to establish a consensus for change. Cheers! RugbyXIII (talk) 19:43, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I've undone your Newcastle/Gateshead merger for now and added it to your request for comment on the Sheffield Eagles merger. I've also invited the user who originally de-merged them, User:Mooretwin to comment. Thanks RugbyXIII (talk) 20:54, 11 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Northern Wonder. Do you have reliable sources for at least the Australian team? I do note that Special:Contributions/110.21.135.90 added the NZ and England teams. This might just be salvageable with a source for the Australian team. I can't find any, and I'm sort of good at that kind of thing. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:13, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I have undone your cut-and-paste move

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Speedy deletion nomination of Rugby League Confederations Cup

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I have deleted this article. I considered creating an deletion discussion, but it would appear to me that there is no evidence whatsoever in reliable sources that the RLIF has even considered a tournament with more national teams to replace the Four Nations, let alone a tournament of this particular name. Please do not use Wikipedia to publish pure speculation. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 08:45, 6 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The Bulls and a phoenix

There is no rush to create an article for a club who, as yet, don't exist or even have any guarantee will exist. Yes, the RFL will place a club in the Championship but it needs someone to come forward with the money and the plans to create a club from scratch. Once there is then we can report it and expand on it but don't jump the gun by assuming Smith will stay on a coach or even at this stage if they will play at Odsal. I'm not going to propose Bradford RLFC for deletion as by the time any discussion is concluded there, hopefully, will be a club but don't expand it without things that have been confirmed, not just speculated on. Nthep (talk) 18:56, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop jumping the gun. There is no guarantee that the new club will play under the name Bradford Bulls so moving the existing page is unnecessary at the moment. If they do decide to be the Bulls then we can have a discussion about how to disambiguate the two. Nthep (talk) 22:41, 13 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of League 1 Wooden Spoon

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:RFL logo 2017.jpg

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Speedy deletion nomination of File:England rugby league 2017 logo.png

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Hi Northern Wonder, just letting you know more personally than a template that I've replaced a few images you've uploaded with updated versions and tagged the old ones for deletion. Cheers Bwfcwarrior (talk) 15:31, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of File:KP League1 logo.jpg

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Soccer templates in RL articles

Please see: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Rugby_league#Soccer_balls_in_RL_articles

We (WP:RL) will no longer be using soccer templates for RL articles. Many thanks Bwfcwarrior (talk) 00:58, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Leeds Rhinos infobox

Hello again Northern. I've undone your last edit to Leeds Rhinos. Two things, first, it is established practice to put the town and region in club infoboxes along with the stadium. If you wish that to change, I suggest you head back to WP:RL and get a consensus for change that would apply to all RL club infoboxes. Second, I'm not really bothered either way about having the club colours written next to the template in the infoboxes. Only problem with removing it from one article is you'd need to remove it from all of them really. That's SL, Champ, L1, NRL... literally all clubs that have it. I wouldn't oppose that, but others might, so you may end up getting sent to WP:RL again for a consensus discussion. Cheers Skemwarrior (talk) 20:00, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ordering parameters in infoboxes

Hi, I see you made an edit to Template:Infobox rugby league football competition/testcases re-ordering some of the parameters inside the infobox. The order you enter them makes zero difference to the way they will display. To change the order they will display requires some rewriting of the infobox code. If you look at the code of Template:Infobox rugby league football competition/sandbox then you will see every parameter is handled by two lines called labelNN and dataNN, it's the numbering of those that determines the order of display so to move the promotion and relegation parameters up the infobox would need some careful renumbering of the label and data fields. Nthep (talk) 17:02, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Rugby League International Calendar

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Proposed deletion of List of Super League rugby league club owners

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Needless article as info could/should be easily incorporated into main Super League article or maybe List of professional sports team owners.

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Flags in European current templates

Hello there, I have been asked by another member of WPRL to widen the conversation on "Flags in European current templates", in the hope to gain a wider consensus. I imagine that this message may well never be read, dismissed, see me lose support, potentially gain some or take the discussion forwards. Please do take the time to read the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Rugby_league#Flags_in_squad_templates if you can, but the crux of my position is that the flags are prevalent elsewhere, are consistent with usage by the MOS, and their implementation for their rugby league national squad/team or representative nationality, is in line with their intended purpose. The crux of the remove side would be an IP editor may interpret a flag as indication of birth, give too much credence to the nation, and the decision was made previously. To remove them from all rugby league templates when there is a limited conversation would seem more than a little unfair I would say, hence the attempt to reach out. I'm quite happy to voted down, but would appreciate a few more voices to the discussion, else it would seem quite wrong to move from the majority into the minority.Fleets (talk) 19:51, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed deletion of Challenge Cup semi final

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Two issues here.

you cannot copy the content of Championship Cup over to a new article without attribution per Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. To do as you did is a copyright violation.
There are no reliable sources given that state that the 1895 Cup is a direct continuation of the Championship Cup. You are making a synthesis that because the competitions maybe open to the same clubs that one is a continuation of the other, that remains to be established as the entry criteria haven't been announced yet. Create and article on the 1895 Cup but don't unless you have sources that say otherwise make it out as the Championship Cup revived. Nthep (talk) 19:42, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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League 1 (rugby league) -> RFL League 1

Please don't go creating unattributed copy pastes of existing pages. If you think the article should be title RFL League 1, which it probably should, then move the existing page or propose the move if you think it may be contentious. If you move it then you should also look at the pages that link to League 1 (rugby league) and deal with changing the links to point to the new page especially any double redirects the move creates. Nthep (talk) 23:07, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'll repeat the above. You have just done exactly the same with RFL Women's Super League. Don't! If you keep copying and pasting like this you risk a block for copyright violation. read WP:CWW for how things should be done. Nthep (talk) 16:11, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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If you want to continue calling the play off final the million pound game then i assume you can find some reliable sources that show that it is officially called the MPG and i dont mean Sky's hype for their broadcats. Until then its the ply-off final or possibly the championship grand final as per the RFL"s publications. Nthep (talk) 18:57, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Don't copy & paste, just move the page. Nthep (talk) 12:54, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I have put a note about this on the talk page but putting "N/A" for the league leaders shield is very misleading. We have notes explaing that in seasons 1 and 2 there was no Grand Final and league leaders were declared champions and that the shield was not awarded until 2003 and teams shown before that are the teams who would have won it. So saying a league leaders shield is not applicable for the first two seasons is hypocritical to these two points.

On a separate note, please refrain from removing Wakefield from the list of current teams until the season has finished. They are still a Super League side for the time being. Mn1548 (talk) 18:53, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Do you not think a list of full time clubs in the Championship is useful information considering the majority of clubs are part time? Also clarification on how promotion works should be included? Mn1548 (talk) 19:00, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think a list of full time championship clubs would be more useful on individual championship season articles where you can go into more detail. League articles should be more of an overview and history of the league.

As for clarification on how promotion works info boxes are just an overview and you don’t need to go into detail on them. There is information on how P&R work in the history and structure sections in the articles Northern Wonder (talk) 21:22, 1 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK, cheers, thank you. Mn1548 (talk) 13:38, 2 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I have restored this pages to its original version. As previously discussed re Super League the List of British rugby league league leaders is a list of British rugby league leagues leaders, not a list of British rugby league leagues leaders but only when there was playoffs used. If you want to re add all regular season runners-up that is fine, but DO NOT remove league leaders that were declared champions due to the absence of playoffs. Mn1548 (talk) 14:55, 7 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Regarding the above article - Please go to the talkpage and seek consensus for its new title or if you're 110 confident you're correct then please WP:Move the article (you can't just copy and paste it unfortunately), Man thanks, Kind Regards, –Davey2010^Talk 15:29, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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why does it need status markers for teams that have been relegated when the table rows are already highlighted that they are relegated? Nthep (talk) 17:19, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All tables in soccer have them. I think we should follow their lead. Northern Wonder (talk) 19:07, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

so you think marking them relegated and then marking them relegated again for good measure is necessary? Nthep (talk) 19:24, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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List of British rugby league league leaders... again.

I really do not understand what's going on here. The scope of this list is CLEARLY DEFINED in the lead. You open a discussion on the talk page of the article to which I have responded to which you have ignored only to change the scope of the article again.

The article is simply a list of British rugby league league leaders, not a list of league leaders when rule X or format Y is in place, just a plain simple list of British rugby league leaders in all regular seasons, as suggested by the title and defined in lead, end of.

If you think the lead can better explain this then feel free to make edits, but DO NOT completely change the article. Especially if you're going to add hypocrisies and overcomplications like your last edits on that page. Mn1548 (talk) 23:25, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, seperate articles exist for List of British rugby league champions and League Leaders' Shield. That information does not need to creep in here. League Leader information has been removed from both those two article and made seperate for a reason. Mn1548 (talk) 23:31, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t see the problem I added runners up to the article and then a list of clubs who have finished top but not won the League Championship. I did not remove any information that was already there Northern Wonder (talk) 12:16, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have a problem with including runners-up either. What I have a problem with is anything that states or implies when a team finished first in regular season during a year without playoffs that said team didn't finish first as they were also champions, which you also edited onto the page. Mn1548 (talk) 20:29, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I still included the clubs who won the Championship I just thought it’d be useful to show a list of clubs who have finished first and not won the Championship Northern Wonder (talk) 21:49, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, you altered the lead to "[a list of] team[s] finishing top of the league at the end of the regular season when a playoff system is used to crown the champions" whilst leaving all seasons where a playoff system wasn't used, making the list factually wrong. Plus, the bold/no bold on the list as it was and as it is now already distinguish this. A list of clubs who have been league leaders and not won could be a useful idea, but what you did wasn't that, or if it was in complete contradiction to the prose. Mn1548 (talk) 15:13, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't know how many times this conversation has been had on Wikipedia. Writing England/Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland/Ireland as listed hosts is NOT inline with other tournaments. Hosts are listed inline with the nations recognised by the global government body of the sport. Look at the Summer Olympics there is a UK flag next London 2012 not an England flag because the UK is the IOC nation not England. This was the case in rugby league too until 1995 when the home nations got individual affiliation with the IRL, thus prior to this the UK was the IRL nation. Wikipedia should be reflecting this so as to avoid recentism. Mn1548 (talk) 11:22, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also I feel need to point out your statement of "The United Kingdom did not host, England did" is a factually incorrect and hypocritical statement. Mn1548 (talk) 11:46, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

England made their debut before GB, wales played their first game the same year as GB did plus the RFL is the governing body for England and oversees GB.

Also GB is different from the United Kingdom. 1960 and 1970 should have a union flag with Great Britain not United Kingdom.

I think the actual layout of the table can be left, copying the way the UEFA European Championships result table is set out with the Third and fourth place and later semi finalists Northern Wonder (talk) 14:28, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I think hosts should be the countries the tournament is played in. GB participated in 1960 and 70 but games were only played in England (I guess this goes back to my point about England debuting before GB and had played games throughout the 20th century). You could put UK as hosts alongside Ireland and France for 2000. Northern Wonder (talk) 14:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

None of this actually argues agaist using the IRL affiliated nation. If it were the European Championship where England and Wales played separately then I'd agree, but with the one off exception of 1975 this never happened in the World Cup. Again, your point about 2000 RLWC ignores IRL affiliated nations as this occured after Scotland and Wales got their own affilations outside the RFL and the RFL became governing body for England only. You want the listed host to be the country that hosted, guess what the UK was the country that hosted. Also just because the team was called Great Britain, it still had Northern Irish players and represented the United Kingdom, which is the actual name of the country not Great Britain. The debut is a weird argument, Other Nationalities made their debut before everyone but England. Should we change ever non-England host to rest of the world? No, because we use IRL affiliated nations, like the rugby union world cup uses WRU affiliated nations, FIFA World Cup uses FIFA affiliated nations, and so on. Mn1548 (talk) 18:58, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The UK isn’t an IRL affiliated nation though, England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland are though. There’s no Northern Ireland (or republic) rugby league team.

Going by the IRL affiliation, hosts for 1960 and 70 should be Great Britain, if you wanted to change it to UK then you’d have to change GB to Great Britain and Ireland Northern Wonder (talk) 19:44, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IRL affiliation isn’t great to go off historically as there wasn’t really any affiliation and its members were just the RFL, Australia, New Zealand and France.

you could argue 1960 was hosted by England, who played as part of GB, it wasn’t like there were games played across the UK Northern Wonder (talk) 19:51, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You could also argue games were only hosted in Northern England and not across the whole of England. Where is the line drawn? If not by IRL affilation then where? And would the alternative allow consistency with how other major sports tournaments are displayed? The "England hoasted who at the time competed as Great Britain" argument again is recentism with a side note. An example, "The 1980 Summer Olympics was an Olympics tournament hosted by the USSR", NOT "The 1980 Summer Olympics was an Olympics tournament hosted by Russia, which at the time competed as and was part of the IOC nation the USSR". Pre 1995, the RFL was recognised as the governing body for all the UK, articles about this time period should reflect that. Mn1548 (talk) 08:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rugby League World Cup (again)

Look, it's fair enough if you think the RR v SF needs to be explicity mentioned in the table and the note doesn't cover it, but using that as a cover to alter other things that has already been established is not on.

Also, you need to be more careful with your editing as like last time you've left missing cells and row/colspans that don't line up which have needed fixing.

If you would like to discuss further, please do it here or in an appropriate talk page. Thankyou. Mn1548 (talk) 09:55, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The table was fine it was in line with other international competitions. The difference between third/ fourth and SF is done in the same way that the uefa European championships are done. Notes explain the rest such as 1975 hosts being transcontinental, it also makes the table look better Northern Wonder (talk) 18:12, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TBH, the table was fine how it was before this recent reformat, which (checking the edit history) you made it like that about two years ago under the same justification of being "inline with other international competitions" using the same format as the Rugby Union World Cup (that reformat was much needed btw as it was horrible before that). Either way, I think we've found a happy medium now and happy with how it is now. The only thing I've changed is the host for 1975 as your justification about making the table look better is redundant due to have 5 hosts in 2000, and it doesn't really make sense to have one being different from the rest. Apart from that, I'm happy with the table now. Thanks. Mn1548 (talk) 12:33, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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