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Truss

Will these do https://mg.co.za/opinion/2022-09-07-liz-truss-new-uk-prime-ministers-links-to-right-wing-think-tanks/ https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/2018/12/19/liz-truss-dark-money-think-tanks-koch-brexit/ https://www.desmog.com/heritage-foundation/ --Kitchen Knife (talk) 23:17, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

@Kitchen Knife: in a word, no. Sorry. I don't know what the first or third are, and Greenpeace is a pressure group. A household name newspaper (not necessarily British) would be a better choice, a book or journal article from a reputable publisher even better. "Articles should be based on reliable, independent, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy"; this is especially important when dealing with living people and contemporary politics where the potential for harm is much higher. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:23, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Harry, hope all is well. It's good to see you around... Thanks for all the good work you do, keep it up! Eddie891 Talk Work 02:44, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

@Eddie891: Thank you! Always nice to receive a bit of appreciation. And always nice to see a familiar face around. :) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:27, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

User you blocked on dynamic ipv6

User_talk:2600:1003:B00F:EFDE:60E6:EFE5:120A:BC09 Andre🚐 19:58, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

@Andrevan: it seems ToBeFree beat me to it! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:00, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Ah great thanks! Andre🚐 20:01, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Hi Andrevan and HJ Mitchell, thanks for the report and the ping! I have extended the IPv4 block to match the new IPv6 block and protected the pages for now. Some people... 😐 ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:02, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
Nice! That semi-protection ought to nip it in the bud as well. Andre🚐 20:06, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Block of 92.66.151.177

Special:Contributions/92.66.151.177: was it really necessary to block them even though they had only done one edit? I might be missing something here (was it a dynamic/shared IP?) 0xDeadbeef 15:01, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Check the filter log. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:53, 23 September 2022 (UTC)
Oh, I should have checked that. Thanks. 0xDeadbeef 04:49, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

i wanna know

what does 'other actions noted as being pursuant to non-public information.' mean 120.21.222.76 (talk) 09:20, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

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Block

We could all use a break from vandals and a little help from admins. Thank you for the block. Sarrail (talk) 20:38, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

@Sarrail: always happy to help. Thank you for the report. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:40, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

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Assist

Harry Mitchell or HJ, the user (Bloom6132) is stirring a pot. They incorrectly reported vandalism and when you explained the situation they escalated things. Also they pretend to be involved in discourse and then stop any discussion.Defcool1 (talk) 07:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

The hunch proved right. Bloom6132 nominated the article (Bill Plante) for Did You Know. This was some scheme apparently.Defcool1 (talk) 07:36, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Wow, you're a brilliant detective (sarcasm). You do realize that the article would have been expanded 5× either with single-spacing or double-spacing. What I do take exception to is your refusal to accept MOS (specifically MOS:DOUBLESPACE). —Bloom6132 (talk) 07:40, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Harry Mitchell, I get that you don't like to be involved in everything or maybe even most things. It would be helpful if you did intervene a bit.Defcool1 (talk) 20:09, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Really could use help. Do I have it correct that you delegate often here? Defcool1 (talk) 21:25, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

The Cenotaph as Today's Featured Article on Armistice Day?

Hi Harry, do you have thoughts about featuring The Cenotaph on the Main Page on any particular date? 11 November this year is still free at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests. I'm happy to nominate it if you approve of the idea – unless you'd prefer to, in which case I'd support it. Ham II (talk) 16:26, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

I'd love to see it on the main page on 11 November. I'm not fussed which year bit I suppose there aren't any major anniversaries imminent. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:22, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Great; I'll try to get a nomination together this week. Ham II (talk) 19:37, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Assist

Hi, am DanielMaithya. Please provide copies of deleted Lucy Chege (nutritionist). DanielMaithya (talk) 09:18, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi Harry, no doubt you will have seen the ping, but as a courtesy I'll alert you here as well: Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/The Cenotaph. Ham II (talk) 13:54, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

The Cenotaph scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 11 November 2022. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/November 11, 2022, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/November 2022. I suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations on your work. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:56, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

User creation log

Hi HJMitchell! Sorry to bug you on your talk page. I noticed here that you blocked the account ILikeYourMom22, and then I noticed on the user creation log, that the user ToeLover222 was created by ILikeYourMom22. I wasn't sure how this is usually handled, especially since the account that was created after, hasn't been edited yet. Is there anything that should be done here, or is this a situation where I would want to wait until they edit? Just wanted to ask for my benefit :) thanks!! SPF121188 (talk this way) (contribs) 18:44, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

@Spf121188: I think we can do without that account, too. I don't think they have anything of value to add. Thanks. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:47, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Request for Rollback rights!

Hi @HJ Mitchell, hope you are going good. I got to your talk page from this page here. Your name was a familiar one because it often pops up while I scout recent changes through Wikiloop Doublecheck. I take keen interest in fighting vandalism and keeping articles abuse-free, and I do so using Wikiloop and twinkle, which doesn't require any specific user right. But tools like Huggle & AntiVandal requires the Rollback rights, which I currently do not possess. I used to revert vandalism even before I created this account, so I have good knowledge of Wikipedia's policies on vandalism and reverting edits. So I am asking you to please go through my contributions and check my background and history, and grant the rights if you deem it appropriate. I can assure you I won't disappoint. Have a great day & happy editing! ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 10:05, 15 October 2022 (UTC)

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Protection reduction

Hi; since you're the admin who protected Wikipedia:WikiProject Apple Inc./to do, could you remove the protection? The template is no longer transcluded by Template:WikiProject Apple Inc. onto every talk page, and I'd like any editor to be able to contribute. Thanks. DFlhb (talk) 11:26, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

@DFlhb:  Done. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:05, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
Thank you; have a great day! DFlhb (talk) 19:10, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

Revoke TPA

Hey could you revoke the TPA of Antbully0001? They made a legal threat in their unblock request. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:30, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:32, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
p no problem! I looked up the usernames they said they weren't and they aren't registered so I doubt it's socking. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:33, 19 October 2022 (UTC)e

Always precious

Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:01, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Creation of an article "SMK Jalan Damai"

Hey there, I wanted to create an article on a school in Penang, Malaysia called SMK Jalan Damai but I noticed that it has been created before and deleted by you. Is it okay if I create the article as I have arguably enough information about the school to create an article on it. Dulcetia (talk) 09:15, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

@Dulcetia: that was 12 years ago. As long as you write in English and provide sources you should be fine. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 09:39, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
Alright, thanks! If we can make even the darkness shine, it will become a starry sky | Dulcetia 11:51, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

User:162.216.217.192

Hi, a while back you kindly blocked 162.216.217.192 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) who was vandalizing multiple articles. This user is now evading their block at 174.213.160.3 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). The pattern of edits and articles edited makes this clear, eg this edit by 174 and this edit by 162 both inserting "mortally wounded" into the same article. Any chance you could take a look? Thanks, 157.131.122.202 (talk) 02:10, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Not HJ Mitchell, but happy to help. My guess is that it would be a clear case of block evasion, and since the 162 IP was "school blocked", 174 IP should be the same as well. However, I am not an admin, and I cannot block this IP, but you can go ahead and report the 174 IP at AIV. Sarrail (talk) 02:14, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
By the way, if you do not know how to report at WP:AIV, feel free to ask, or manually report it there. Sarrail (talk) 02:15, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
Thanks Sarrail. It looks like User:Widr blocked the IP. 157.131.122.202 (talk) 02:49, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
No problem. Feel free to ask if you need any additional help. Sarrail (talk) 02:58, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Increasing Protection

kindly, the page Egyptians needs extended protection; same IP-User(s) are trying to spam and manipulate it again, opposing actual DNA sources. The page has a huge section dedicated to DNA results with actual scientific references on North Africans. Many thanks. Fragrant Peony (talk) 10:20, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

You can add the page to WP:RFPP if you would like. Sarrail (talk) 10:57, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
You can, but it would likely be declined as there's only been one problematic edit since the previous protection expired. If the disruption becomes persistent again, we can lok at renewing the protection. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
If they come back... Sarrail (talk) 14:01, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Disable TPA

Please disable the TPA of the IP 99.209.10.34. They left a personal attack on their talk page. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 17:56, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Done. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:02, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Promotion of Galton Bridge

Congratulations, HJ Mitchell! The article you nominated, Galton Bridge, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:05, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Great job HJ!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:33, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! :) Hopefully there'll be more to come. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:03, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

99.253.44.18

Thank you for blocking for five years +. All too often in cases like this some administrator blocks for some absurdly short period, apparently either not noticing or ignoring the fact that it's obvious that one person has been vandalising from the same IP address for years. JBW (talk) 11:02, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

@JBW: I thought you'd like that one. My usual 1001 days didn't seem long enough. So it's 2002 days! ;) I always block for short durations to start with but once we've established that the IP is static and the person behind it isn't taking the hint, the blocks get exponentially longer. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:26, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
I hadn't thought to work out how many days it was. I still haven't forgiven the technical people who years ago made it impossible for "1001 days" to display. As for the length of IP blocks, it seems to me that the substantial majority of the administrators who frequently patrol AIV are for some reason unable to grasp that the idea that you don't block IP addresses for a more than a short time to avoid collateral damage on innocent editors doesn't apply when there aren't any innocent bystanders because it's clearly the same person over a long period. In fact I get the clear impression that for many of them it doesn't even occur to them to check IP editing history to see whether it does look like the same person. On the other side of the coin, though, I remember Rexxxs once saying that in his opinion for all school IPs we should just block and "throw away the key". That, of course, was in happier days. 😊 JBW (talk) 15:46, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
@JBW: I do understand the reticence to block IPs for extended periods but we shouldn't make our lives more difficult on the off chance that the IP might be reassigned and the recipient might decide to edit Wikipedia. I'll be honest, I rarely check the edit history beyond a few diffs but I'll rapidly escalate the block duration with each re-block. I sort of agree with Doug on school IPs, though I tend to leave account creation open if I'm blocking long-term; I have more tolerance for curious kids than I do for people who actively want to cause to trouble. I try to have a curry with Doug whenever I'm in the Midlands. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:15, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
It's great to learn that you're still in touch with him. JBW (talk) 21:24, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

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Did you make a mistake?

You blocked IP address 152.157.233.176 last month. However, there's only two vandalism edits from 2008 from that IP. I wonder what purpose blocking it serves. Did you make a mistake? — Python Drink (talk) 01:25, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

No mistake in the school block by this administrator. I think if you look at the block notice, the edits you mention were just two of a subset of the larger set of edits by User:152.157.0.0/16, which is who Harry blocked. This is a school block, which means potential contributors may register an account to edit if they wish to do so. BusterD (talk) 02:31, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

false accusations

Administrator, help me with my one important issue:

This person is the owner of several accounts, he introduced edit wars in the "Russian Wikipedia", and accused absolutely everyone of Vandalism. Communicated rudely with other users. Here are his accounts:

1)Товболатов

2)Takhirgeran Umar

3)Russian viki

I also ask you to contact an experienced user under the nickname Anceran, he has 11 years of experience on Wikipedia, and will confirm the violation by the user Товболатов

This person is trying to slander me, and is trying his best to block me. He used different accounts in the section on "deleting an article about the Ingush in Turkey" (Russian Wikipedia) Niyskho (talk) 23:48, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Niyskho. I have no idea what you are talking about, I am not Tovbulatov or Tahigeran Umar. On the contrary, you have already been blocked several times in the Russian-language Wikipedia for insulting other participants, vandalism and edit wars, for gross violations. Russian viki (talk)

  • An experienced member whom I named can confirm this, you also justified the freebies, you managed to block me only because I was only a beginner, and could not defend myself in any way in that situation. You are a proven virtual, and that's a fact.

I did not offend anyone, it was you who began to go over to individuals and even to nations in the very section "deleting the article of the Ingush in Turkey." Niyskho (talk) 23:57, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

I am not seen in Vandalism in the Russian Wikipedia, and certainly not in the English one. I was again slandered, unfortunately. Niyskho (talk) 00:01, 5 November 2022 (UTC)


(talk page stalker) This is the English-language Wikipedia. Neither HJ nor any other admin here is likely to be able to help you with issues on the Russian-language Wikipedia. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:03, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

The point is not specifically in the Russian Wikipedia, the point is that this user accuses Merya of Vandalism, although he himself is the owner of several accounts, and a proven virtual.Niyskho (talk)

Risking duplicate effort, these issues are entirely about activity on Russian Wikipedia, and administrators here don't have special permissions there. BusterD (talk) 02:41, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Niyskho I am not investigating or investigating in puppetry, however, you were first suspected and then identified as a multi-account virtual by Russian wikipedia investigation. Here I saw that you continue to act in the same spirit accusing other old participants of vandalism and forgery. If you were making constructive edits here, I would keep silent. I'm sure you'll continue the edit wars here as you insulted me.

HJ Mitchell sorry for posting on your personal page.Товболатов (talk) 09:02, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

You blame people just because they have the same nicknames, it's just ridiculous. I have never had an edit war here, and I found a common language with Chechen users, in the same article "Nakh peoples" through the "discussion" section, I was able to come to an agreement and solve the problem together with another Chechen user.

So there is no need to blame me here, you started to insult me, but only fell for provocations, which is undoubtedly my fault. Niyskho (talk) 09:08, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Niyskho Above. Even here, you know very well that these three people are completely different people, you are brazenly lying trying to mislead the project participants.Товболатов (talk) 09:34, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

At least here, try not to offend people, as you did on the Russian Wikipedia, these are your accounts, and this is a fact from which you cannot escape. I no longer wish to continue the dialogue with you. Niyskho (talk) 09:54, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

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I have no horse in this race, but I noticed your edit summary here. Sorry, but I disagree. Bold is the adding of the text, Revert is the reverting of the text, Discuss is the...well, you get my point. To keep both sides happy, I've now included all relatives, which is hugely excessive and not the first things someone should see when visiting Dahl's page, but it's better than arguing about it. FGMC1870 (talk) 14:32, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

@FGMC1870: except that Roald Dahl has been mentioned in the lead of the article since it was created 20 years ago until the IP removed it last week. I can live with your edit, and if anyone wants to make the case for removing it, they can open a discussion. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:44, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
Dare I mention it, but the same could be said for the infobox, or lack thereof; yet that's not stopping someone from trying to force one on the page, despite there being a silent consensus not to include one. Just saying. FGMC1870 (talk) 15:17, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
I don't care about the infobox. I think they're harmless at worst but they're not worth the energy expended arguing over them. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:25, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi, HJ Mitchell. Please let good old User:2A02:C7E:4F1D:4000:CDD8:58DD:B23C:9695 go. You let him stuck until 29 March 2023. Please find an earlier date for him! 195.224.130.186 (talk) 14:25, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Sometimes, IPs are stuck until 2028. Why are you trying to let this IP out of a block? Sarrail (talk) 14:31, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
@Sarrail: because they're evading their block. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:35, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
Knew it. Certainly. Sarrail (talk) 14:37, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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TFA

November songs

Thank you today for The Cenotaph, introduced: "This article is the culmination of a project I've been working on (on and off, with quite a few digressions!) for about six years, starting with Northampton War Memorial, which passed FAC back in 2016. It documents the history of what is easily Britain's most famous war memorial, and probably one of the most famous war memorials anywhere. It was never intended to be such. It started life in wood and plaster as one of a collection of monuments for the parade to celebrate the formal end of the First World War, but it caught the imagination of a public mourning the loss of an entire generation of men in a way that nothing before or since ever has. The industrial-scale slaughter had never been seen before, and most of the dead (or what was left of them) were buried overseas. People needed somewhere to grieve, and the Cenotaph gave them that. It was rebuilt almost unchanged and in the same spot in stone, where it has stood for over a century and is still revered today."! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:31, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Request for permanent user rights

Hi @HJ Mitchell, hope you are doing good. Last month you granted me reviewer and rollbacker rights for a trial of 1 month. Well it is going to end next week and so I wanted to request that the rights be made permanent. Using the rollbacker right, I was able to revert vandalism much more quick and efficiently using AntiVandal and didn't run into any problems or disputes. Using the reviewer right, I was able to accept constructive pending changes and revert non constructive ones. It has been a smooth ride this month and I hope it will be so in the future. Here are my contributions if you want to have a look. Happy editing! ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 11:04, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

@Raydann: Done, but go steady until you've built up some more experience. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:26, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
I will show my best judgement and will not act in haste :) ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 10:00, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

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Hi Harry, in case you missed it, I've addressed your comments at the FAC. Let me know your thoughts. Cheers, Ippantekina (talk) 04:43, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder. I'm away from home dealing with a family emergency at the minute but I'll be back to Wikipedia tomorrow or Wednesday hopefully. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:55, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

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I don't know what has happened in recent edits to this policy, but a section on illegal conduct as a basis for organizational notability has been part of WP:NCORP at least since 2013. Apparently the wording has morphed over time, but this is an important point to include on the page. BD2412 T 13:05, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Upon further review, the content you are seeking to remove on the apparent claim that it was added 15 days ago has actually been on the page for over ten years. You seem to have mistaken a recent talk page discussion proposing a modification of this language as having to do with the introduction of the language itself, but that occurred in 2012. Please feel free to contribute to the discussion proposing changes to the language. Obviously it is important to note on this page the signficance of reported illegal conduct of an organization with respect to the notability of such an organization. BD2412 T 13:43, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
@BD2412: If you can't read an edit summary properly and you're happy with unintelligible bollocks in a guideline that new users are going to be reading to figure out why their article was deleted then have at it. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:54, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
Look, I'm not trying to be a dick here, but you know very well that you can't just remove a decade-old entire paragraph from a guideline because you find it poorly written. This is a provision that has been referenced and linked in dozens of discussions over the past decade. If you think improvements can be made to the wording, you are welcome to civilly propose and discuss changes to the section. BD2412 T 14:09, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Restrict talk page access

Hello, I'm reaching out because a user is lashing out after a ban. Could you please restrict talk page access at User talk:2603:7081:3800:126:DDB6:5B53:629A:CCF? I think some revdels are also necessary. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:01, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, I've revoked talk page access and Yamla has protected the talk page. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:13, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

2603:7081:3800:126::/64

2603:7081:3800:126::/64 is now bein g disruptive on their talkpage. 2601:240:CD07:35EA:3C1A:EC4E:2C83:D112 (talk) 14:03, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

See above. Thanks for letting me know. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:13, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Long-ago userfied article

I just came across User:Arxiloxos/Elisabeth Hagen while doing some wikignoming. You had userfied long ago (User talk:HJ Mitchell/Archive 28#Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elisabeth Hagen (2nd nomination)). User:Arxiloxos had made the one edit they mentioned at that time[1] but the article has had no activity since then and the editor has been inactive since March 2021. Do you think it's viable for mainspace now? DMacks (talk) 12:42, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

@DMacks: Not my area really and I don't remember an AfD from 12 years ago. I haven't closed an AfD in years! On a quick look, it looks like it might just about pass muster if it was moved to mainspace. There's certainly enough that I couldn't confidently predict the outcome of a new AfD, though I'm loathe to add yet another BLP to the pile that nobody is going to maintain. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 13:40, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Yup, I don't know squat about this topic either. I blanked it as a BLP article that was consensus-delete at the time and now seems abandoned-draft. No prejudice against anyone picking it up and getting it into mainspace if they want, but I'm not going to be the one to do it. DMacks (talk) 19:14, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Fair enough. It's there if anyone wants to take it on but we have enough unwatched articles on marginally notable living people. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:24, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

I have nominated Shooting of James Ashley to be today's featured article on January 15. As the article's FAC nominator, you are invited to join the discussion by clicking here. Z1720 (talk) 02:49, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you

For the block [2]. Please consider revoking talk page access, too. Cheers, 2601:19E:4180:6D50:0:0:0:8D29 (talk) 10:09, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

I wouldn't revoke talk page access for one edit but it looks they have a habit of being abusive on their talk page so I'll remove the platform for them to do it again. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:15, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

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Miles Dempsey

I have Miles Dempsey up for review at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Miles Dempsey. He's one of the more significant British commanders of World War II, but is not well known, and reviewers are hard to find these days. If you could have a look, that would be great. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 20:59, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

I'll have a look. It won't be today, possibly not tomorrow, but if all else fails I'll aim to get to it at the weekend. I've heard of him, though only in passing. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:37, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
Thanks. Much appreciated. There is plenty of time; I just wanted to get things moving before Christmas, when I won't have access to my books. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 23:04, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

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Your opinion on my New Page Reviewer Request

I honestly agree, I should put more effort and thought in my AFD deletion requests and votes. But is there anything else I should work on to be able to become a New Page Reviewer? Thanks!`~HelpingWorld~` (👽🛸) 03:30, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

@HelpingWorld: You have the right attitude. I just think you just need a bit more experience around deletion processes and notability discussions. I would expect a new page patroller to instinctively know that certain subjects will almost always survive an AfD (eg commissioned naval vessels). Their role is to triage. We need to be sure that they know what content is harmful and how to flag it for immediate removal, what's harmless but not notable, and what can be improved or should be left alone. If you're looking for more detailed advice on NPP, my friend Kudpung is the person to ask if he's around. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:32, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Donald Trump and handshakes

Hi HJ Mitchell, five years ago you wrote a very thoughtful set of closing remarks at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Donald Trump and handshakes (2nd nomination). Please could you userfy the deleted text for me?

I am considering opening a DRV now that the political environment is cooler and the coverage has continued in the press:

  • Crump, James (2021-02-11). "Trump has handshake of 'primitive jungle scene' and attention span of a 'squirrel'". The Independent.
  • Park, William (2020-01-21). "How not to shake someone's hand". BBC Future.
  • Kruse, Michael (2020-03-18). "Coronavirus Gave Trump the Handshake-free World He Always Wanted". POLITICO.
  • Cauterucci, Christina (2020-03-13). "The Masculine Bluster of Trump's Coronavirus Hand-Shaking Tour". Slate Magazine.
  • Sanchez, Luis (2018-06-09). "Trump's intense handshake with Macron leads to viral photo". The Hill. Retrieved 2022-12-03.
  • Vesoulis, Abby (2018-07-02). "How President Trump Turned Handshakes Into a High-Stakes Showdown". Time.
  • Torres, A.J.; Sable, M.B. (2018). "What's in a Handshake?". Trump and Political Philosophy: Leadership, Statesmanship, and Tyranny. Springer International Publishing. pp. 100–103. ISBN 978-3-319-74445-2.

...and in scholarly journals / books:

Many thanks, Onceinawhile (talk) 21:24, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

@Onceinawhile: I've put it at Draft:Donald Trump and handshakes for now. I have my reservations, but feel free to make your improvements. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:46, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
Thank you. Onceinawhile (talk) 17:01, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

RevDel

Hi Harry, could you take a look at Special:Diff/1125899493? Has been reverted by ClueBot but RevDel seems needed. MichaelMaggs (talk) 15:33, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi Michael, nice to hear from you! I've suppressed that diff just to be on the safe side. Thanks, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:56, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Merges

Hey HJ, it's been a while! Hope you're well. Would you be able to perform two page/history merges for me? The first is User:JuneGloom07/Live to Emmerdale Live. User:Raintheone and I started work on our draft in 2012 and I think we both ended up forgetting about it. The last edit that wasn't maintenance related was in April 2014 [3]. A sock created the current Emmerdale Live article in 2017 and it has been edited by others since then, but our draft contains a lot of good info and sources.

The second request is for User:JuneGloom07/Pianoman to The Pianoman at Christmas. I created my draft in November 2020 and last edited it on 28 December 2020, while an IP removed the redirect in 2021 to create the article. I'm hoping to carry on my work, as I recently found all the info I gathered for it at the time. - JuneGloom07 Talk 20:26, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

Hey June, nice to hear from you! I don't think I can merge the histories of those pages because the target pages have non-trivial history so it would make a mess of the page histories. You might just have to settle for copying and pasting your drafts over the current articles I'm afraid. :( Sorry. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:13, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for taking a look. I guess they'll have to stay in my userspace for now. - JuneGloom07 Talk 04:02, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
You can copy the contents over, especially since your drafts are improvements on what's there already, you'd just lose the revision history from your userspace version. Most readers don't look at the history anyway but you could provide a link in your edit summary, like "see User:JuneGloom07/Pianoman for history". Best, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:09, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

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Baekje

This document still needs protection. Unlike Buyeo or Goguryeo documents, where Chinese vandalism is severe in English Wikipedia, Baekje is frequently attempted by Japanese people who are anti-Korean and far-right to revise the documents extensively.

The page history does not support your assertion. The article is little-edited and I see no reason it should have remained semi-protected. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:30, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
It seems that I misunderstood the content related to the Baekje language document as being related to this document. By the way, why did this wiki page become semi-protection in the past? 211.230.224.218 (talk) 09:12, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
It was protected in 2008 by an admin who is no longer active. I've been looking at a database report that lists articles under indefinite semi protection and removing some of the older protections if they don't seem necessary now. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 11:32, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

This is to let you know that the London and North Western Railway War Memorial article has been scheduled as today's featured article for January 6, 2023. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page blurb, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/January 6 2023, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so. If you wish to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article, you can do so at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/January 2023.

I suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:09, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Promotion of Northolt siege

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I suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from the day before this appears on Main Page. Thanks and congratulations Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:44, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Three TFAs in a month! Did I upset someone! ;) HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:56, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

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Block evasion

Hi, thanks for longterm blocking https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Special:Contributions/119.94.165.243 could you maybe also block https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Special:Contributions/119.94.161.210 and https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Special:Contributions/119.94.162.104 , its the same user. Thanks --FMSky (talk) 02:26, 17 December 2022 (UTC)