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Would you be interested in continuing helping to make labels? and in making the alternative labels more known to the community ? Your help was greatly appreciated and helped to advance the project, we miss you at WP:KIS Thanks ℒibrarian218:37, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Disclaimers
Could someone place one of those boxes that says "This is a Wikipedia user page, not an article.
If you find this page on a site other than Wikipedia, be aware that you are viewing a hosted copy of this page on a mirror site, with which the user 'Leamarie411x2' is not affiliated in any way. The original page is located at http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Leamarie411x2"
Bah! The SHA function on your userpage has piqued my interest in SHA, so now I'm stuck on learning more about it. Man, what wikisurfing can do.. Th 2005 (talk) 03:52, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello!
Hello ArielGold, welcome back! I hope your Christmas and New Year were good. Do you like your new shiny rollback button? :) Best wishes. Acalamari20:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Acalamari!! Thank you so much, aside from the pneumonia, I guess my holidays were without event, lol. What new button? lol. I don't see anything different! What did I miss while I was sick? Ariel♥Gold20:18, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Sorry to hear about your illness, I hope you feel better now. With new buttons, admins now have the ability to grant MediaWiki rollback to other users (see my user rights log). The feature is still under discussion (of course), and it was implemented during your break. You were granted rollback by LaraLove a week ago. You should see the blue "rollback" button in page histories, in contributions logs, and in diffs. Acalamari20:27, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Ahhh! Well that is interesting. I do recall reading the proposal for that a while back, so great to see it was implemented. Hopefully it works out well! Thank you so much for the well wishes, Acalamari! Ariel♥Gold20:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Just so you know, before you are doing the same thing tonight. I'm gonna upload some pics of the ECO repair and the feedtrough connectors. And so good to see you online again. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:11, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Awesome, I hadn't planned on uploading anything tonight, so that is great that you'll be taking care of that! I'm still crossing my fingers for this mission! Ariel♥Gold21:13, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks to everyone
I'd like to thank everyone who, over the past couple weeks, sent emails or added a note here wishing me well. I am slowly recovering from a rather nasty bout of pneumonia and bronchitis, and will be back slowly, but I appreciate all the well wishes, and thank you all from the bottom of my heart. Ariel♥Gold19:15, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
You're both so quick! Thanks :) And hey, Tom, I owe you a giant thanks for all the help I see you've done for Daniella while I was ill. Thank you so very much for keeping a watch here, and for taking care of the issues that cropped up while I was out. I'm so thankful to have such wonderful Wiki-friends as you all, and I hope you know how much I appreciate all of you! Ariel♥Gold19:21, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
I've only interacted with you a couple of times but missed your great heart here and there and around.Happy you are feeling better.(olive (talk) 19:33, 17 January 2008 (UTC))
Hey Ariel, welcome back. Sorry to hear you had pneumonia, I had it 3 years back and I know it completely winds ya! Hope you're feeling better now :) ~ Riana ⁂00:53, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Good to be back, even if reduced activity a bit for now. Thank you all, Olive, Fozzie, Dreadstar, Kyoko, Riana, and Flyguy, for the warm wishes, I'm so glad to be able to sit up for a bit, frankly while languishing in bed all day may sound fun, after a few days, it does get old, lol. ~*Hugs for everyone*~ Ariel♥Gold15:11, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey! I'm really glad you're back. Sorry to hear that you were really sick. I once was sick for a couple of months a few years back, ii's not fun! :D Leamarie411x2 (talk) 19:48, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
I missed all of you too! Thank you so much for the warm wishes! I think I went through a bit of WP withdrawal, lol. I was having dreams about editing. Think this is a bad thing? ~*Giggle*~ Ariel♥Gold15:23, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Sad article needs your magic touch
I'm sorry to hear that you've been sick!! I hope you're feeling better!!
lists only a few of his books, and those few aren't formatted correctly; when you have time, and are feeling up to it, do you think you could whip this article into shape?
Thanks!! xo
PS: There's a sort of listing of Adams' books at the bottom of this page
Ariel, it's so great to see your smiling face around these parts again! Glad to hear you're ok, and happy to have you back! --MikeVitale20:23, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Welcome back; we've missed you (as I'm sure you've noticed), even though some of us (*cough* me *cough*) have not explicitly demonstrated it. Wishing you much joy, peace, and health, your most humble servant, Agüeybaná00:55, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you all :) Keilana, you should be glad I missed that, lol. Thank you for your emails, they cheered me up when I read them! And Squid Guy, always wonderful to hear from you, as well as you, Rocket :) (And a big hug for R, too!) Ariel♥Gold15:22, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
After much thought and deliberation I have decided to return. Many wikians contacted me by various means and I truly appreciate the support from all of them. Man, did I need that wiki break! I have learned from it and will use the experience to improve. — Rlevse • Talk • 19:36, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
As you know, this news brings a big smile to my face. Your endeavors here and participation are exceedingly valuable, and while we all need breaks now and then, I'm glad to see yours was not permanent. I'm so glad you're back! ~*Hugs*~ Ariel♥Gold19:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Misza!!!!!! Oh Hai Thar! Thank you so much for the email! It was wonderful to read, and made my day, honestly. ~*Big hugs*~ Ariel♥Gold15:31, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I'll add a completely redundant "Welcome back" to the mix. Expletive, you've even got the lone wolves upbeat. Now that I've started bothering you, though, can I ask for your advice on an issue not related to Wikipedia but related to space exploration and weirdness? --Kizor06:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Kizor! Of course you can ask me, I may not know anything about it though, lol. If it is obscure, might want to include a link so I can read up on it :) And thank you for the welcome back! Ariel♥Gold15:31, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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Ugh... Well, it is nice to know that there is no "drama reason" for KoS's departure, and I can respect that sometimes people must move on to other things, but KoS will most certainly be missed, by myself, a lot, and I'm sure by many others. Very sad to lose a long, long time administrator. :( Ariel♥Gold00:20, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Please?
Keilana would like to nominate you to become an administrator. Please visit Wikipedia:Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact ArielGold to accept or decline the nomination. A page will be or has been created for your nomination at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/ArielGold . If you accept the nomination, you must formally state and sign your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.
I'm sorry, my dear Keilana, and everyone above who offer encouragement, but I'm simply not well enough yet to undertake this, I'm still not on the computer daily, and not strong enough to be able to sit at the computer and answer questions, and keep track of something like this. I'm sorry :( Go ahead and delete it for now, if you would please, I'd rather be at full health during an RfA. I hope you understand. ~*Hugs*~ Ariel♥Gold16:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm sure the RFA would run itself without you needing to worry about it! I mean, who could possibly object? :-) But in all seriousness, I hope you'll be back to full health as soon as possible. I've deleted it for now. *sob* Get well! henrik•talk21:42, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry to hear you're still not well Ariel, but so glad you are on the mend. And of course, thank you for updating the lolcat pikture on my userpage, I just smiled from ear to ear to see you back on there! :) ~Eliz81(C)04:46, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
LOL I don't reject you! I hope that all of you know I adore you, and value the friendships I have here, and respect your opinions. Thank you for respecting that I'm not up to doing an RfA at this time, physically, or mentally I'm simply not well enough. ~*Big hugs*~ Ariel♥Gold01:24, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Excuses, excuses :) Yeah, pneumonia isn't my most favorite disease, of all the diseases I've contracted. Of course, I was 11 and wouldn't have made a good admin even in a healthy state, but still. What was I talking about?rereads comment... Well, pneumonia sucks, you don't, and once you're better, you'll make a great admin. JustinContribsUser page04:34, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Dear Wikipedia Good Fairy, I would like to know what you think about my conversations with those on the discussion page of this article. I have added sourced material to reliable third party references and they are removing it without even providing any references. What do you think? NancyHeise (talk) 02:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Nancy! So great to hear from you! I had a quick look at the discussion, but did not read the whole thing, so I'm not fully aware of the conflict. However, let me just say that religious discussions are an area that I personally prefer to not be involved in. I'm really sorry, but hope you understand. However, strictly speaking about Wikipedia and editing itself: If the sourced material is removed without explanation, it is appropriate for you to replace it, explaining that it is sourced, and add a note to the talk page. Having done that, if someone disagrees with the sourcing (as seems to be the case here), as being POV in nature (something I did not look into, so I do not offer an opinion), or being non-reliable, then discussion on the talk page should take place, and agreement decided before the re-addition of the material to the article. Sorry if that's not of much help, but I do hope that you get the conflict resolved. ~*Hugs*~ Ariel♥Gold01:36, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Haiku time...
I'm also down with something damned annoying. Drat. BTW, hope the penny drops and your fans/friends stop bugging you about the nomination; only you will know when you want to. Meanwhile it's like the mother overheard telling her son: "What part of NO do you not understand?!?" Anyway a few years ago I swallowed a book of translated Haiku whole. The result: "Silent watch dogs: Intruder! Over the wall... my neighbor's creeping vine." Take Care and Be Well, Shir-Eltoo03:31, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Granted, I've never been particularly into Haiku, nor do I even know remember how many syllables go where, lol,... but I don't get that one. Forgive me if I'm being dense, and it is a funny joke that seems obvious, but I guess it went over my head lol. No matter, though, it is just wonderful to hear from you about anything, and always brings a smile to me to read your notes. And don't worry about the nom thing, I don't feel pressured, and I think enough of them know what a procrastinator I am, if nobody bugged me to do some things, I'd probably never do them! lol. ~*Big hugs*~ I hope your family is well, dear. Ariel♥Gold01:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
This is ABSOLUTELY NONE OF MY BUSINESS, but you state that your BMI is 16.5, the WHO threshold for malnutrition-you may have a medical condition I'm not aware of-or it could be a typo. Either way, seems you should know.LeeRamsey (talk) 05:30, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Hrmm, indeed, Tom, I'm not sure what happened, I fixed them temporarily for now, but I hope that someone can figure out what went wrong, lol. Thanks for letting me know about it! And Lee, it isn't a typo, but thank you for your concern. :) Ariel♥Gold01:11, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that you are a member of the Space missions and Human SpaceflightWikiProjects. A couple of weeks ago, I proposed that the Space missions and Space travellers projects, which both appear to be inactive, be merged into the Human Spaceflight project. Whilst this is being done, the capitalisation of the Human spaceflight project's title would also be corrected (ie. Human Spaceflight → Human spaceflight). The projects are all doing the same/very similar things, and in my opinion, a single, larger, project would be more effective than three smaller, and somewhat inactive projects.. In light of very little response to messages on the project talk pages, I am now sending this message to all members of all three projects, inviting them to discuss the proposal on the Human Spaceflight project's talk page. I would appreciate your opinion on this. Thanks. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk21:37, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Heya GW :) Thank you so much for letting me know. I've been quite ill, so needless to say, I have not seen changes to pages on my watchlist, or I'd certainly have commented by now. My apologies. I went ahead and did post on that thread, and agree with your suggestions, makes sense to merge the smaller, less active projects into one. Thanks again! Ariel♥Gold01:17, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
On a related note, thanks for your quick fix to {{User HSF Project}}! Obviously something had changed somewhere. I've modified it to be somewhat simpler, and both the text size and line height options now seem to work again. Let me know if the resulting userboxes look wrong to you anywhere! (sdsds - talk) 02:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Hrmm, I'm honestly not sure what date the userbox went haywire, as I've been ill, so haven't been online regularly. I just noticed it today, but above, Tom noticed it yesterday, so your guess is as good as mine. I'm not sure what the new preprocessor does or how it would have changed the userboxes, because I am not quite as savvy at the coding in them as you are ;) Thanks for fixing them! Ariel♥Gold03:54, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for your reply. I hope you feel better soon. I've taken a look at the userbox, and the elements you removed seem to control text size and line height. I've re-added the text size control to the spaceflight userbox, without parser functions, and I will look into whether the values can be preset tonight. Thanks. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk07:47, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Okay, it was quicker to do than I thought it would be. I added the following parameters to both templates, and they appear to be working perfectly.
What this does, is rather than ignoring the parameters if they are not there (as in the broken version), this resets them to their default values if they are not given.
Hey GW! Yes, it is displaying correctly now, with the parameters I removed re-added. I removed those because that was what I could find to change that "fixed" the display, although I am not sure what happened to it that broke it in the first place, I don't think it was any prior edit (if you look through the history, to the version prior to the one I "fixed" you can see what it appeared like) so probably it did have something to do with the new preprocessor Sdsds mentions, which is over my head, lol. I really appreciate you fixing them so the text size and line height is working again, since without that, they do appear oversized and don't match most other userboxes. Thank you both so much for figuring all of this out! Ariel♥Gold09:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
No problem. There were no changes to either userbox, or to the main template, which could have caused the problem. The spaceflight box was working on 20 January, because I remember editing it to reflect the project's renaming. My money would be on the preprocessor as well. I think that it does affect parser functions, which were the bits that you deleted. Anyway, it is now working, and it looks okay. Thanks for bringing this up. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk18:26, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Interpretations of 2001: A Space Odyssey
Hi Ariel, I saw you on the adopters' page, and that you were willing to give an opinion on space-related issues. I have just added a lead section to the article on Interpretations of 2001: A Space Odyssey, which is in a pitiable state. IMHO, of course. I had tried earlier to do something about the Interpretation on the 2001 movie article, but was instantly reverted by two editors for OR and unsourced material. The new paragraphs are more acceptable I hope, but I wonder if you could look at them, and at my justification on the article talk pages. All I really want to say is that Clarke's book really cannot be ignored when seriously interpreting the movie. Thanks! Wwheaton (talk) 10:08, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi Wwheaton, unfortunately, I've neither read the book, nor seen the movie, so I'd probably be unable to offer any kind of input. My areas of interest are in Human Spaceflight, not in fiction, I'm sorry to say. The best I can offer is that the issue of original research is a valid one. While you may have interpretations, without reliable sources to verify the interpretations, they become personal opinions, and aren't encyclopedic. The best thing to do is to find books, or reliable news/media articles that discuss various interpretations, and use those as sources to explain the known interpretations that are out there, citing the sources, and not adding anything that may be considered original research, or adding anything that appears to take a "side" in the article. Keep in mind it is not an encyclopedia's function to analyze or offer opinion, but to simply summarize what already has been reported in other sources. I'm sorry I cannot be of more assistance with regards to the article, but I'm sure that there are others on the talk page who would be more than happy to offer their help with the page. Cheers, Ariel♥Gold15:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Hey Ariel... I wrote once and I can't find my message.. Was it deleted? Why? Cuz you don't know me? I wrote to wish you well after your sickness. I signed it (I think). Could you please tell me whats up? Also I can't see well so if it's up there don't rage.--CherryBlossom93 (talk) 01:28, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi Cherry! I'm sure you did leave one, and it was most likely archived (the link to my archives is at the top of the page), as I have it set to automatically archive older messages. Rest assured that I did get the message, and appreciate your well wishes! Thank you again! I really appreciate all the warm wishes from everyone. Ariel♥Gold10:09, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Awww, thank you so much, Leamarie, thanks also goes to Tom, who took care of the requests while I was out sick, and I appreciate that so much. Maybe we can cut this award in half and give half to Tom, hee hee. Ariel♥Gold19:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
~*Giggle*~ Thank you so much, TehSpud! I do tend to have a rather offbeat sense of humor at times, but I thought perhaps that was apropos. Thank you for letting me know you appreciated it! Ariel♥Gold05:15, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
New Signature
Ariel, would you look at some new signatures I can up with. They are here; User:Rocketmaniac/Sandbox2#New Signature Then would you please give me your opinion, which one do you like better? And finally, how do I start using this new signature? I mean I know I can cut and paste the code everytime I write something on someone's Talk page, but how (or can I) have this new signature automatically come up with I type the four wiggly things? Thanks for you help, Rocketmaniac (talk) 01:49, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
I prefer the second one ;) You should go to 'my preferences', tick the raw signature box, then in the box above it, copy the code of the signature from your sandbox. Go down to the bottom of the page and click save, and your done! Tiddly-Tom07:06, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, when I saved the preferences I got the following error, "Invalid raw signature; check HTML tags". Does anyone see which HTML tag is causing the problem? Thanks Rocketmaniac (talk) 11:22, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
You have an extra <font> tag in there for no reason. Use
[[User:Rocketmaniac|<font face="Verdana" color="4169E1">'''Rocket'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Rocketkmaniac|<font color="9400D3">'''maniac'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rocketmaniac|<font face="Serif" color="4169E1">''RT''</font>]]</sup>
and you should be good (I tested the code and it accepts it). seresin | wasn't he just...?14:26, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for figuring out the problem. Well, here's the real test RocketmaniacRT17:17, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Oooh, I like it! I too would have chosen either the first or second choice, so good decision! Thank you again, Tom, for helping when I was not here. I hope you know how much I (and I'm sure many others) appreciate your quick responses here! And oh my goodness, is that i I spy? ~*Giggle*~ I like the new name, by the way! Ariel♥Gold04:57, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Ariel, since I know that you're keenly interested in space, and all things related thereto, I thought I'd give you a link to some pictures that someone else pointed me to... Enjoy! --MikeVitale02:32, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
Ooohh Cool, I'm pretty sure those are pictures from STS-118, I recognize a few from NASA's website, but pretty neat to have them all on one page like that! Thank you for the link, Mike! Ariel♥Gold05:46, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Have fun this week with the mission. I'm on holiday for a week and unfortunately won't be able to edit wikipedia, nor see anything at all about the mission :( --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:31, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Oh my gosh, noooooo! You're one of the best people during missions! Change your vacation, lol. But seriously, I hope you have a great time, take pictures and upload them when you return! Have fun! Ariel♥Gold09:33, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Hahah omg, that's so cute! If you made it, you should upload it to commons so we can use it! Thanks so much for the smile, always appreciated! Ariel♥Gold20:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, technically there is nothing in the name that violates the username policy. Yes, it is long, but the name means something, and makes perfect sense, isn't a random string of letters, and only four numbers. There are only 27 characters in the name, and even before the current username policy change, "excessively long" was considered anything over 45 characters. The current revision of the username policy does not even mention length, after this discussion, it seems the length portion of the policy was completely removed. Remember, we need to assume good faith, and I sincerely doubt you'd find any administrator willing to block this name just because it is longer than average. Now, vandalism is a different issue, that is a behavior issue, and should be taken care of in the appropriate manner, but one has no bearing on the other. Ariel♥Gold06:27, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
LOL Well, congrats on having to archive! And you're welcome to use any code you find lying around here, lol. I took a look and don't see what you used, but I do like how clean and neat the pages are! Makes me want to steal your code, hee hee. Ariel♥Gold05:20, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Ah well, I like minimalism. Yea, there really wasn't any of the code left, but I just like a starting point. Figured I should tell ya anyways. Heh, I feel like a regular now, with my own archive. --ÐeadΣyeДrrow (Talk | Contribs) 13:13, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Apropos: came here to ask you how to archive. Yours seems to be by date, but can it be on demand? and can I select how much to archive and what to leave in place? Your truly, Shir-Eltoo23:50, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Whoah, what are you doing there!? Well, I bet that the weather is better there than it is around here lately, lol. Take pictures! Ariel♥Gold05:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
SNOW? Lol! Sheesh, you'd think if you went halfway around the world you could get away from this cold weather, lol. How long are you going to be there? And wow, what an awesome assignment for work, I didn't realize that new job of yours would make you a world traveler, hee hee. Take pictures! Ariel♥Gold22:57, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Yup! We had some west of the Jordan too, some less than 70 miles from here! A relative from Nebraska thumbs her nose at me when I tell her how cold it was in Eilat, but the lady doesn't take into account that she's prepared and expecting it, we are NOT! Stay WARM!!! Shir-Eltoo23:44, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
Wow, Timothy, you're really lucky to get this chance through work! I definitely want to see pictures! Shir-El, maybe you should get a warm down-filled coat for those 3 days the temperature falls there, lol. ~*Hugs to you both*~ Ariel♥Gold15:55, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Sad article needs your magic touch
(This got archived before you had a chance to see it, so I put it back-hope that's ok!! xo)
I'm sorry to hear that you've been sick!! I hope you're feeling better!!
lists only a few of his books, and those few aren't formatted correctly; when you have time, and are feeling up to it, do you think you could whip this article into shape?
Thanks!! xo
PS: There's a sort of listing of Adams' books at the bottom of this page
I can take a look at adding a bibliography, but I would imagine there are very large number of comic compilation publications, similar to other strips, such as Calvin and Hobbes, or Peanuts, and to list them all is not really integral to the biography. Most long running cartoonists will find their strips published in compilations at some point or another. I'll take a look, though :) Ariel♥Gold15:58, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Dear Ariel, I have done extensive work to this article, it is being considered for FA and I would like to invite you to come vote and give me your honest comments. You know I respect your opinion. Thanks! NancyHeise (talk) 01:03, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Ariel, you are a wonderful person. I appreciate your experienced edits to this article that I am sure will only help it achieve FA. Thank you for taking the time and giving me your valued opinion. I hope I can repay the favor if not on Wikipedia in prayers for blessings for you. Sincerely, NancyHeise (talk) 19:27, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Shuttle-ISS mission
AG, Thank you for your note. While I was updating the STS talk pages with the updated form of {{WPSpace}} template for |spaceflight, and {{HSF Project}} noticed a number of articles that had the "Shuttle ISS mission" and "Shuttle Mir mission" bolded, mostly with only the STS mumber, and some without the STS-nnn at all in the lead-in... and many with not lead-in at all. As with with aircraft, the aircraft number-name (B-52 Stratofortress) gets expanded to the bolded "Boeing B- 52 Stratofortress". At that point, i did a quick scan of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Spaceflight project page and did not notice any convention. Not only aircraft, but missiles, notable persons, communities, automobiles, etc., it is common to expand the article name with pre- or post- words to give full meaning to the title. As part of Wikipedia, in editcopy, removing stubs, etc, its been "asked" to be bold. I saw an opportunity (and had the free time) to update the Talks and lead-ins to STS related Talks and articles. I cleaned-up all Talks, and all lead-ins for continiuty for STS and Shuttle articles. My work was done in good-faith, and see there was a severe need for this work, I completed the task. All the articles now have "Shuttle mission" or "Shuttle-ISS mission" or Shuttle-Mir mission", or "Shuttle-Hubble mission" affixed accordingly. There is unity in all lead-ins... I also noticed many had the "shuttle to ISS" commonality in the sentence structure. I believe the lead-ins are consistant with wiki articles.
One example of very many: For STS-84 the lead-in was: Shuttle Mir mission was a Space Shuttle mission to the Mir space station flown by Space Shuttle Atlantis. So I added the "STS-84" within in bold marks.
With all the missing lead-ins, and partial lead-ins, and 90% of all Talks having no {wiki project}, it took me 6 hours to complete this needed task.
Hi Lance! Thanks so much for your reply. Yes, I too noticed that some of the older articles (that haven't been reviewed by project folks) were done rather haphazardly, without the proper leads. I also understand the reasons that an aircraft's name is bolded along with its "common name", so I had no doubts that you were working towards standardization. However, a few things are different when it comes to shuttle missions, first, NASA does not call them "STS-XXX Shuttle-ISS Mission", they call them by their official designation, (simply the STS-###) as does Wikipedia when naming the articles. Second, especially with the ISS missions, the information is given immediately in the opening sentence ("was a space shuttle mission to the International Space Station"), which lets the reader know right away what the mission's purpose/objective was, so to say "shuttle mission" in bold, and then repeating the same information in the sentence, is not really necessary. Understandably, the Mir missions were done differently, and actually this was because there used to be a template used that standardized the opening of all shuttle missions, but it was deleted in TFD many months ago, so the administrator who updated the files linking to that template, not being part of the WikiProject, did not know that the template provided a measure of standardization, and simply filled in what they thought was appropriate. For many of these, When going through them all, I went ahead and added to the lead sentence the main objective of the mission, to make it clear in the lead what the purpose was, which improves them for a general reader. I really personally appreciate all the time you went to, especially with the talk page work! I have done that as I've come across them, but did not ever take the time to work through each mission one by one, and your work there was simply excellent! Keep up the excellent flight article work! Ariel♥Gold20:39, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for butting in here, but I feel strongly about this subject, and have done for quite some time. I bear some, but not most, of the responsibility for the prior state of these articles. If you take a look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Human spaceflight you will see a section on the tempate that could have made updating the wording of all these lead sections a matter of one edit taking 2 minutes, rather than the 6 hours you were forced to spend. We should discuss that template, and its fate, someplace else than dear ArielGold's talk page, though! (sdsds - talk) 20:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Ahhh, yes! (Hi Sdsds!) That's the template I was thinking of! I actually did not disagree with its deletion, simply because, as pointed out in the TfD, there were a limited number of articles to be completed, and it did not seem (at the time) to be a big impact to delete it. The manual of style is clear that the bold item should be the title of the article/subject of the article, which is the official mission designation, so any additional information is certainly necessary and important, but does not need to be bold. I'm going to take a run-through of the shuttle missions (I've done most of them, going through the early early ones now) and make sure they are all the same, but I have noticed some of them are really in need of work, either expansion or cleanup. Might be a good project for me once this mission is done, lol. Ariel♥Gold20:45, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Ouch! Does it ever! Lol. That was a simple copy/paste from NASA's site, which because it is PD, is not a big deal, but also not written in an encyclopedic style, hee hee. I'll get that up to speed, and then continue working through the early articles. Thanks! Ariel♥Gold21:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
LOL! I actually can't at this moment, dear. My trial period of mIRC is up and when I tried to get on IRC the other night it wouldn't let me unless I paid, lol. I have to re-download and reinstall the other program I was using. I'll try and get that set up tonight. ~*Hugs*~ (If it is an emergency, email me, k?) Ariel♥Gold21:38, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
My yard is sanctuary to 7-9 cats/kittens and assorted interlopers. What they've done to some of my flowerpots is a pain in the asterisk. Why I mention this is because those repeated requests for Ariel to RFA remind me of my much beloved kittens... with Ariel in the role of flower pot! {No offence, Ariel.} Shir-Eltoo00:00, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Hahaha :) I don't mind the asking, heck, I've asked some folks myself a time or two :) But I'm still not here 100% yet, so I'm still going to say no for now, my dear Keilana (P.S. Have I ever mentioned how much I really like your name?) ~*Hugs*~ Ariel♥Gold09:39, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
(sneaks in, leaves a gold plated, personalized on the handle with extra bristles mop on Ariel's desk..) (Tempt Tempt Tempt Temp!) Seriously, hope you're having a good day :) SirFozzie (talk) 21:26, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello everyone! I have had to reformat my computer, and re-install Windows, so unfortunately, I have lost all of my addresses in my email client (yes, I forgot to back up my .wab file, lol). If you are someone with whom I regularly communicate, please, please send me a quick email so I may re-add you to my address book! Thank you so much! Ariel♥Gold23:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
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Archives
Hi Ariel,
How do I archive comments on my talk page? I only want to archive messages older than 1 year, seeing as how I don't get many talk page edits :( . Leamarie411x200:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Leamarie, try adding code similar to this to your talk page:
{{User:MiszaBot/config
|minthreadsleft = 2
|minthreadstoarchive = 1
|algo = old(1y)
|archive = User talk:Leamarie411x2/Archive/%(year)d/%(month)02d}}
That will give you talk page archives that are stored by year and then 2-digit month, for example: User talk:Leamarie411x2/Archive/2008/01.
If you would rather just have sequentially numbered Talk Page Archives, try this:
{{User:MiszaBot/config
|maxarchivesize = 100K
|counter = 1
|minthreadsleft = 3
|minthreadstoarchive = 1
|algo = old(1y)
|archive = User talk:Leamarie411x2/Archive %(counter)d
}}
That will instead give you talk page archives that are stored sequentially, for example: User talk:Leamarie411x2/Archive/1.
In general, if you click on the "Edit this page" link at the top of a page and look at the code contained therein, you should be able to figure out (with a bit of ingenuity) which code corresponds to what you see on the page. --MikeVitale00:58, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
Ariel is fine
Ariel contacted and says to say she's fine but had a major computer failure. She misses us and sends hugs to all. — Rlevse • Talk • 03:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi ArielGold, I've noticed that you are/were NancyHeise's mentor. I am a little concerned that Nancy might not have a 100% accurate understanding of what the FAC process is. Since I've posted objections to articles she's nominated for FAC, my opinion does not carry a lot of weight in her eyes, and since I know she respects you I hoped you might be able to help. In particular, she may not understand that FAC is an effort to come to a consensus, and not a strict vote [1]. SandyGeorgia, the FA deputy director, suggested that we might point her to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Preity Zinta/archive1 (which ended 25 in favor, eight against, and failed) as an example. I think this misunderstanding of the process has led to other issues. For example, several times she's responded on the FAC page that she does not wish to implement a change because then she'll lose the votes of people who've already supported. I think that position is making the process much more stressful for her than it would otherwise be. If you'd prefer not to be involved, or don't feel you are familiar enough with the FAC process (I don't know what your background is for that), then please let me or SandyGeorgia know. Thanks! Karanacs (talk) 15:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Away...
I've been away for a while and so have you. Please leave me a note when you get back. Take Care and Be Well, Shir-Eltoo22:46, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Here's a Sakotis for you! This cake promotes WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving this cake to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others! Happy editing! Fernando Buceta (talk) 10:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Hello Everyone!
I've managed to keep my very old, 15-year-old computer alive long enough to get on 14k dial-up, just to drop a quick note that I'm doing okay (aside from going through WikiWithdrawal!) but I simply cannot edit or do much with this old system. It takes 5-10 minutes just to boot up, and many minutes to open any program, much less load Wiki Pages. It locked up once on a long page with lots of comments, lol.
I want to say a big "Thank you" to everyone who has emailed me, or written here, saying hello, and keeping in touch. I can get email on my cell phone, so it is always nice to read a quick hello note, and I very much appreciate all your support! You are all so awesome! I miss you all, and I hope that soon I can find a way to get a new system, so I can return to filling my days helping the Wiki be the best it can be!
Welcome back, it's good to hear you're okay, bummer bout the computer probs though cause we could use your heart warming presence around here, especially lately. Best wishes. —[DeadEyeArrow – Talk – Contribs] 10:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Welcome back, even if it's only for a short while! Glad to hear that everything's still OK in Ariel-Land. Hope you're able to retrieve your access on a more permanent basis soon. --MikeVitale14:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Either I'm going crazy, or crickets are chirping in the inactivity that is your contributions history. :\ Of course, I could just naturally be going crazy anyway, but still, it sucks that you're not around. :( Anyway, hopefully everything's okay, and hope to hear from you when you get back. Cheers =) --slakr\ talk /16:30, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
I got a response to an email I sent Ariel to see if she's okay. Apparently her computer blew up, and she can't replace it; all she's stuck with is email. So, she's alright, she's just in a bind. I'm happy to know that's all. :) EVula// talk // ☯ //15:51, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
Great news indeed, thanks EVula. Hopefully we shall one day hear the same news about someone else. Ariel, when your technically enforced wikibreak comes to an end, you shall be joyfully welcomed back and mercilessly requested a long awaited RfA. Best regards, Húsönd01:07, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
We are almost done, Category:Articles lacking sources from June 2006 is down to less the 400 articles to find references for. I would like to thank you for listing yourself as a volunteer at Wikipedia:Unreferenced articles and would like to take this opportunity to invite you to visit the project again and work on getting the last few articles referenced. We started with 5,572 and we are in the home stretch, please come and try to do a couple a day and we can finish it up in no time. Jeepday (talk) 02:21, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
I Know Not Where You Are But Here Is A Smile
WarthogDemon has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
Thank you for your continued work and assistance on Wikipedia:Unreferenced articles, referencing and generally cleaning up articles that have needed attention for a long time. Your good work goes unseen unless someone disagrees ;) Jeepday (talk) 12:01, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Hey Ariel. Just wanted to wave atcha and say "hello", even if you're only stopping by for a minute. Lovely to see you back on here and that all is well :) - Alison❤05:16, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for participating in my RfB! I am very grateful for the confidence of the community shown at my RfB, which passed by a count of 154/7/2 (95.65%). I have read every word of the RfB and taken it all to heart. I truly appreciate everyone's input: supports, opposes, neutrals, and comments. Of course, I plan to conduct my cratship in service of the community. If you have any advice, questions, concerns, or need help, please let me know. Again, Thanks! — Rlevse • Talk • 08:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Coincidentally, I'm volunteering at WP:CP these days. After advice at WP:MCQ, I've written a FUR to allow the use of the patch at Soyuz TM-33. When you get back online, if you think it can be justified for use in other articles, you may want to write up a FUR for those as well. :) --Moonriddengirl(talk)12:02, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks so much, dear! I'm not able to check status of things every day, and putting that image up for deletion seemed to be a pretty poor choice, but that's just my opinion. Many of the Soyuz and other mission patch and logo images use the NASA license, yet the patch/logo graphics were technically designed by foreign space agencies. If it is true that the foreign space agencies do not have public domain licenses like NASA does, then FUR would need to be provided for a great many of the patch images currently in use on WP. Ariel♥Gold16:38, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I hope they don't show up at CP. I'm still learning my way around images, and less than clear cases are a real headache for me. :D It's almost embarrassing how often I have to get feedback at WP:MCQ or one of the other image help forums. But as long as I'm the only admin volunteer routinely working copyright problems (as I seem to be), I'm going to have to continue looking for help with the matters I don't know how to handle myself. :/ It's good to see you, even if only occasionally. :) --Moonriddengirl(talk)16:53, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, you nearly have to have a background in law to understand what you can and cannot use anymore, lol. It has become pretty complicated, and I admit to not fully understanding every nuance of the image issues. I understand the reasons, and don't disagree with them, but it is difficult to judge when there are technically "two creators" of an image. And I have faith that you'll do fine at CP, the more you do, the more you'll learn. Pretty soon you'll be the expert CP Person! ~*Hugs*~ Ariel♥Gold16:57, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
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