User talk:Another Believer/Archive 26
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The Signpost: 1 December 2018
- From the editor: Time for a truce
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- Discussion report: Farewell, Mediation Committee
- Arbitration report: A long break ends
- Traffic report: Queen reigns for four weeks straight
- Gallery: Intersections
- From the archives: Ars longa, vita brevis
Your GA nomination of Bell Tower (University of Portland)
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Your GA nomination of Bell Tower (University of Portland)
The article Bell Tower (University of Portland) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Bell Tower (University of Portland) for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hawkeye7 -- Hawkeye7 (talk) 23:01, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Bell Tower (University of Portland)
The article Bell Tower (University of Portland) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Bell Tower (University of Portland) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Hawkeye7 -- Hawkeye7 (talk) 00:41, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 49, 2018)
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Administrators' newsletter – December 2018
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December 2018 GOCE newsletter
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A Star Is Born soundtrack
Hi AB, can I request your eyes on the credit section of A Star Is Born and see if it can be rearranged better and divided into subsection? I cannot seem to find a way to do it :( —IB [ Poke ] 14:01, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- @IndianBio: To be honest, most of the time I create a Personnel section, I do so as a simple list (like the current version) unless I see credits in another format. Sometimes production personnel are separated out. I do notice some of the entries need to be converted to lower case after the endashes, but otherwise, we might need to look at the album's liner notes to see if any subsections or other ways to organize the names would be appropriate. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:01, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Nomination of A Tremor of Bliss for deletion
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article A Tremor of Bliss is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Tremor of Bliss until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Qwirkle (talk) 21:03, 6 December 2018 (UTC) |
Weather machine scheduled for TFA
This is to let you know that the Weather machine article has been scheduled to be rerun as today's featured article for January 6, 2019 (previously run on January 6, 2014). Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/January 6, 2019, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so.
We also suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors on the day before and the day of this TFA. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:17, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Jimfbleak: Thanks for the heads up! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:13, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
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- Thank you for the article! - Looks like they pick the TFA by the precious date ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:15, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
Eric Clapton's Happy Xmas Album
The interview I quoted from is all about the album - Clapton explains the way the album was made, and tells interesting (IMHO) stories about all the songs. It isn't "too much content from a single source" because everything I wrote is taken from one 50-minute video. Since I am obviously not English, you're free to rewrite those contents in a more stylisitically correct way, but I very frankly can't see the point in removing all of it. Ugo1970 (talk) 18:01, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- I stand by my edit -- there was way too much content being sourced by one interview. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:05, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:The Conjugal Conjecture
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Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:The Matrimonial Momentum
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This week's article for improvement (week 50, 2018)
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"Shallow" (Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper song)
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Hello: The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article "Shallow" (Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper song) has been completed. In the Development and Composition section this sentence, "A slow-burning, country[19] and folk pop[20] power ballad, "Shallow" features instrumentation mainly from Nelson's acoustic guitar and Cooper's piano with Cooper and Gaga trading verses." In the film, as I recall, Cooper is only shown playing guitar on stage. If so "Cooper's" piano should read "Gaga's" piano. I'll leave this to you. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Regards, Twofingered Typist (talk) 14:52, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
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Take part in a survey
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Hi Another Believer We're working to measure the value of Wikipedia in economic terms. We want to ask you some questions about how you value being able to edit Wikipedia. Our survey should take about 10-15 minutes of your time. We hope that you will enjoy it and find the questions interesting. All answers will be kept strictly confidential and will be anonymized before the aggregate results are published. Regretfully, we can only accept responses from people who live in the US due to restrictions in our grant-based funding. As a reward for your participation, we will randomly pick 1 out of every 5 participants and give them $25 worth of goods of their choice from the Wikipedia store (e.g. Wikipedia themed t-shirts). Note that we can only reward you if you are based in the US. Click here to access the survey: https://mit.co1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_eXJcEhLKioNHuJv Thanks Avi Researcher, MIT Initiative on the Digital Economy --Avi gan (talk) 05:11, 12 December 2018 (UTC) |
One-sentence articles
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Why do these articles have only one sentence? And one entry in the infobox?
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Nomination of I Remember Warsaw for deletion
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This week's article for improvement (week 51, 2018)
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Category:Patriot Prayer has been nominated for discussion
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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 13
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Newsletter • December 2018
This month: A general update. The current status of the project is as follows:
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Books & Bytes, Issue 31
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Books & Bytes
French version of Books & Bytes is now available on meta! Sent by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of The Wikipedia Library team --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:34, 21 December 2018 (UTC) |
January 2019 at Women in Red
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A barnstar for you!
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Now that every episode of Fear the Walking Dead so far has been published into articles, I want to award you this barnstar as a way of saying thank you for doing your bit in helping me out with the articles. Go raibh míle maith agat! The Optimistic One (talk) 16:14, 22 December 2018 (UTC) |
- @The Optimistic One: Wow, thanks! But, really, you're the one who put in more work, so I should be thanking you. :) ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:16, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks, I know I created them but you done some work on them as well, you deserve this! The Optimistic One (talk) 16:18, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
... I Lose Myself moved to draftspace
As per discussion on talk page. Onel5969 TT me 17:10, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
- Please move the draft back into the main space. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:20, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 52, 2018)
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The Signpost: 24 December 2018
- From the editors: Where to draw the line in reporting?
- News and notes: Some wishes do come true
- In the media: Political hijinks
- Discussion report: A new record low for RfA
- WikiProject report: Articlegenesis
- Arbitration report: Year ends with one active case
- Traffic report: Queen dethroned by U.S. presidents
- Gallery: Sun and Moon, water and stone
- Blog: News from the WMF
- Humour: I believe in Bigfoot
- Essay: Requests for medication
- From the archives: Compromised admin accounts – again
WikiProject Genealogy - newsletter No.6
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Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2019! | |
Hello Another Believer, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2019. Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages. |
- @Accesscrawl: Thank you, and happy holidays! ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:34, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Nomination for deletion of Template:Patriot Prayer
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This week's article for improvement (week 1, 2018)
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Best wishes for a happy 2019
- Thank you! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:41, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup!
Hello and Happy New Year!
Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup, the competition begins today. If you have already joined, your submission page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and we will set up your submissions page. One important rule to remember is that only content on which you have completed significant work during 2019, and which you have nominated this year, is eligible for points in the competition, the judges will be checking! Any questions should be directed to one of the judges, or left on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will make it to round 2. Good luck! The judges for the WikiCup are Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:14, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Happy New Year!
Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! North America1000 14:28, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- – Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.
- Thank you! ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:20, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
One-sentence articles revisited
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I respectfully request that you cease creating articles which contain only one sentence. You have the experience on Wikipedia and the education outside of it to write an article of substance, fully sourced and consistent with Wikipedia rules and documentation. Why you have chosen to avoid doing so is unknown to me. Such a method amounts to piling unnecessary work onto the shoulders of busy editors. The most important currency we have is time. I would like to see editors spend their time more wisely rather than be smothered by pointless busywork. Cheers, mate. It's a good day to turn over a new maple leaf, eh?
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Administrators' newsletter – January 2019
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I'd be glad for some support
Talk:District of Columbia (until 1871). As I see it, WP had no article on the District of Columbia, and there should be one. No other article does it. It's this sort of thing that gets me quite discouraged.
Also Talk:Encyclopaedia Britannica#Demise of 244-year-old Britannica in 2012, but that one I’ve given up on. deisenbe (talk) 19:44, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- I think I'll let others decide, but I've posted requests for feedback at WikiProjects United States and Washington, D.C. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:35, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Invitation to join WikiProject Brands
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American Dreamers: Voices of Hope, Music of Freedom
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Hi and thanks for your help. I am just getting to learn my way around and wasn't finished with the wiki page information you deleted. I was still putting information under the correct headings and making sure all my cited links were correct.Asr1014 (talk) 00:55, 5 January 2019 (UTC))
Thanks! I was unaware that official website are not sources and will replace with citation from outside publications.(Asr1014 (talk) 01:37, 5 January 2019 (UTC))
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This week's article for improvement (week 2, 2019)
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Liberty Bell
Hello Another Believer ! As you know, I'm trying to translate the article of the Portland's bell and I've got few questions / remarks :
- About the fact that the bell is 25-year guarantee against breakage. According to the reference n°2 (Bell cost $8,000), I understand that the guarantee is for the first replica, not the second.
- Good catch! I've made this change to the article's text. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:45, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- About the Oregon Department of Veterans' Affairs (reference n°10), I don't find the bell on the list...
- You are correct. I'm not sure why the bell is no longer mentioned, but this map feature is new, so perhaps the website is still being updated? ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- I can't access freely to the reference n°5 (Chicago Tribune), can you give me copy or an extract from the article? It could help me more :)
- I'm not sure how I was able to access contents before, but I am not able to do so now. :( ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Do you have any informations about how the decision to buy a Liberty Bell replica in 1962 was made?
- I included as much information as I could find in the article. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Merci d'avance ! --TaupeGun (talk) 09:10, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- @TaupeGun: Thanks for your work on the French article, and for your comments here. I wish I had better answers. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Conde Edmond Dantès: Wanted to make sure you saw these comments as well (since you worked on the PT Wikipedia article), in case you are able to view of the sources. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:16, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Bummer, I remember the bell being listed on the Oregon Department of Veterans' Affairs website, but now I'm wondering if this sentence should be removed since the website does not currently list the bell as a memorial. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:24, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Good news, the information can still be accessed with the internet archive ! --TaupeGun (talk) 17:12, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- @TaupeGun: Good find! I've updated the article accordingly. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:20, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
I've found this : according to this source from the Portland website, the second replica was located at the Terry Schrunk Park before. What do you think? --TaupeGun (talk) 18:18, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- @TaupeGun: Hmm, this is confusing. I updated the article, but I need to do more research re: Terry Schrunk Plaza. I've also posted a note on the article's talk page. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:31, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Trump Oval Office Speech
I thought what I just added was a transcript. I see now that it was a "fact sheet" and not a transcript. Checked at the WhiteHouse.gov site and could not find an official transcript. Anyway, thanks for the move. ―Buster7 ☎ 20:22, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Buster7: No prob! Regardless of the page's contents, I figured we should stick to secondary coverage for inline citations and official websites for the EL section. I'm curious to see if this article lasts longterm (see talk page discussion). Happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:24, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Any presidents first Oval Office speech is usually a big deal. Not sure why this is different but, as you infer, we'll see if it stays. TC.―Buster7 ☎ 20:29, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, and Happy New Year (2020?). Do you know template coding? Two templates, {{Evelyn De Morgan}} and {{Daniel Chester French}} are both missing their "view, edit" links at the top left. Can't figure it out, so wondering if you or someone else can reveal the nonexistent buttons. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:09, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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This Month in GLAM: December 2018
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Thank you!
...for acknowledging my work on translating Lady Gaga articles. I've been working on other articles related to her too, but I still need to do some minor corrections. "Applause" and "Perfect Illusion" are currently nominated for a GA status too. Thank you again, I appreciate that my efforts are being valued! Happy editing. --Gabrielflorin01 (talk) 07:35, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
Keep America Great! listed at Redirects for discussion
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Hi, thanks for adding template:done to my comment. Your probably know this, but in case you don't, in the spirit of "don't foget to use the seatbelt" some eds will not take kindly to tweaking their talk page comments. See the WP:TPG if this is a new thought. In this case, I should have thought of doing that myself, and I do appreciate you adding it! Have a happy NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 10:32, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
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This week's article for improvement (week 3, 2019)
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TFL notification
Hi, Another Believer. I'm just posting to let you know that Grammy Award for Best Metal Performance – a list that you have been heavily involved with – has been chosen to appear on the Main Page as Today's featured list for February 11. The TFL blurb can be seen here. There were a couple of dead-linked references; please search for archived versions or replacements when you get a chance, so that there are no tags on Main Page day. If you have any thoughts on the selection, please post them on my talk page or at TFL talk. Regards, Giants2008 (Talk) 20:15, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:25, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia Editathon: The Visibility Project - Saturday, January 19
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Flickr as a source?
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Hi Another Believer, Question about sources - since TriMet opted to use Flickr to update folks on the PMLR project, how would we use it in a citation, if possible? I'm more after the picture's caption and the date it was posted to indicate approximate construction start date. Here is the link. --Truflip99 (talk) 19:39, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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FYI created a list
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I created List of United States cannabis regulatory agencies after creating New York Office of Cannabis Management and realized the compendium had not been done. ☆ Bri (talk) 19:33, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
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I would like to bury the hatchet. We got off to a bad start on the Bacon micro stubs way back, and it went to bad from worse from there. Life is very short, and we obviously have a lot of shared interests, so olive branch. To your credit, and I fully acknowledge, the infobox on the Goya you were offering was about as minimalist as I've seen; Malevich would have been impressed! But he is dead and we are not. Who knows, we may be able to offer each other advice on various projects. Ceoil (talk) 20:41, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
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This week's article for improvement (week 4, 2019)
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Archive puzzlement
I can't find the history for the hatted content in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cannabis/420 Collaboration/Archive 1 ... can you help? ☆ Bri (talk) 00:11, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Bri: Seems to be around here. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:35, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
RfC discussion on List of 2017 articles that is really about proper use of Wikipedia:Article size.
Requesting your time because I think a guideline is being misused
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Please, I need your input. There is a conversation about splitting an article because of its size, but I don’t care which way you would vote on if it should be split or not. My issue is that the other editor and a companion-in-arms are misusing, mistranslating Wikipedia:Article size. These two are reducing the size of the largest articles in Wikipedia, which sounds like a noble goal, but when I asked what limit there should be on an article size, the response was 100 kB characters. The Wiki-guideline does state that readable prose should be less than 100 kB, but readable prose is the article minus citations, lists, tables, footnotes, and images, so I find the interpretation dangerous. The other editor said to get articles down in size, a yearly list could be cut down in half, in quarters, or even monthly. I cannot picture the easy usage of lists that is divided by month for multiple years. The guideline mostly states lists and tables are excluded from the guideline, so my objection to the split is that there is no justification except a misused guideline. Basically, I think these two editors are going beyond being useful in improving Wikipedia and are moving into damaging Wikipedia, so I would like you to come to Talk:List of 2017 albums#Request for comment, read the discussions in the two section above it, especially Talk:List of 2017 albums#Redux, and provide feedback. I do not care if you say split or oppose, but to me the discussion is not about the split but the misuse of the Article Size guideline, and I want your and others I respect feedback on the conversation and the proper use of the guideline. Mburrell (talk) 02:56, 24 January 2019 (UTC) |
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Oscar Wilde
Hi Jason. It's not my image but I wonder why you reverted my edit. The picture I put in the article shows the whole sculpture, when seemed to me to be superior to the one that was there and that you have reverted. Have I missed something? It's normal to explain why the change you are reverting was a bad idea. Charlesjsharp (talk) 09:45, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Charlesjsharp: Hello! I should have left an edit summary, but I thought the previous picture offered better clarity and detail. If you feel strongly, you can revert my revert. Happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:46, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
Lil Jon
Hi AB, you helped so much on my first major edit I was wondering if you can give the edits I made to "Lil Jon" page a good look. His recording label "BME Recordings" page was deleted although the label several owners and platinum albums released and redirected to his individual page. Also "Lil Jon and The Eastside Boys" page was deleted by a now blocked/deleted user. The group has a 10 year span of albums. By the time I added the information from both now it just seems crammed and left no place to add notable information specific to him. I'm sure i over quoted from some sources as well. Thanks in advance (Asr1014 (talk) 08:22, 29 January 2019 (UTC)).
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Hope the edit-a-thon is going well!
Hi Jason, Sorry I wasn't able to attend at OSU today-- my annual physical got in my wat. But thanks for your attention to some articles I've also worked on. If you have time, maybe take a look also at William Tebeau, Mabel Byrd, and Yaa Gyasi. I'll be looking for more sources to develop them, too, but probably not today. Take care getting home--snow on the way! Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 23:38, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Grand'mere Eugene: Thanks, and I'll take a look! But, actually, I'm participating remotely from home. Stay warm, ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:39, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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Ivanka Vacuuming
I just created Ivanka Vacuuming. In looking at who created the redirect, I saw it was you! I promise two things: A. I'm not stalking you, and B. Wasn't trying to step on any toes if you were going to work on that. I saw the article on CNN, laughed, and saw there was a ton of coverage and reactions to it. Hope you're well! --Kbabej (talk) 19:24, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Kbabej: Hah, no worries at all! I'm glad you created the article. I had started a stub but then expanded the topic by starting Cultural depictions of Ivanka Trump. Happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:27, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
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The Subject Tonight Is Love
Please don't create stubs like this anymore: The Subject Tonight Is Love. You know why.
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- I'm fine with my stub, thanks. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:05, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Re-evals requested
FYI, re-evals requested [1][2][3]. Does this automatically show up somewhere you watch? Should I alert you when I do this again? ☆ Bri (talk) 04:24, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Bri: I don't see WikiProject assessments unless I have the article on my watchlist, nor do I pay attention to the low/mid/top-importance parameter. I mostly just pay attention to article quality rating. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:08, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Picture
Hello. This picture you took, is it Miriam A. Ferguson please?Zigzig20s (talk) 21:42, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- I think it may be the marble bust designed by Enrico Cerracchio.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:44, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Zigzig20s: I'm not 100% certain, but I think so since the inscription mentions first female governor of Texas. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:21, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- I don't see why there would be a second bust of this woman there.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:24, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Zigzig20s: This source suggests you're correct about Ferguson and Cerracchio. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:27, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- OK, I've re-categorized it on Commons and added it to Cerracchio's WP article. Thank you for taking the picture!Zigzig20s (talk) 23:33, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Great, thank you! ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- OK, I've re-categorized it on Commons and added it to Cerracchio's WP article. Thank you for taking the picture!Zigzig20s (talk) 23:33, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Zigzig20s: This source suggests you're correct about Ferguson and Cerracchio. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:27, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- I don't see why there would be a second bust of this woman there.Zigzig20s (talk) 23:24, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Zigzig20s: I'm not 100% certain, but I think so since the inscription mentions first female governor of Texas. ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:21, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
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Per my recent reverts of your edits on SurfSafe, I commend your attention to the respective template documentation.
- Template:portal#Location: "Within articles, this template is meant to be placed at the top of the article's See also section"
- Template:portal bar#Location: "Within articles, this template is usually placed at the bottom of the article, below navbars."
This makes sense as the bar is a full-page-width element; from a design perspective it looks awful in see-also where there's no other page-width element. Whereas, at the bottom of the page there's the navboxes, category box and authority control, all of which are also full-width, so it goes along with them just fine. Daniel Case (talk) 21:36, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: Thanks. I used to always place portal bars at the bottom of articles, but starting noticing editors moving to see also section, so I started following the trend. I'd much prefer to see a portal bar at the bottom of SurfSafe than a side bar adding additional white space to the see also section. ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:52, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- I think, properly used, the box balances the list at the other side (It's also possible to just go to using {{portal-inline}} exclusively in see-also, but since that requires more effort, people are less willing to do it). Daniel Case (talk) 21:59, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: I dunno, I disagree, and tend to use the portal bar when a clear template is needed for the see also section to keep the references undisturbed. But I don't feel strongly enough to keep going back and forth about portals. Happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:00, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- Or we could make {{portal}} optionally collapsible ... Daniel Case (talk) 22:05, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: I dunno, I disagree, and tend to use the portal bar when a clear template is needed for the see also section to keep the references undisturbed. But I don't feel strongly enough to keep going back and forth about portals. Happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:00, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- I think, properly used, the box balances the list at the other side (It's also possible to just go to using {{portal-inline}} exclusively in see-also, but since that requires more effort, people are less willing to do it). Daniel Case (talk) 21:59, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
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I am not finding a whole lot about this monument in terms of RS, but it looks notable to me. This is not reliable.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:48, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- I created a stub.Zigzig20s (talk) 08:24, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- Great! ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:12, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Removing "See also" link
Hi @Another Believer: you reverted a contribution on the basis that the See also section duplicated a link in a navigation template below. That logic strikes me as a strong disservice to readers using a mobile interface or Wikipedia app, which hide various navigation features that display on the desktop site (like so). Recent stats (last 10 days) for that article indicate more mobile views than desktop views. Perhaps I'm biased as a regular reader on mobile, but I think it's important to account for different UX when crafting See also entries. I hope you'll reconsider this particular revert. — HipLibrarianship talk 03:47, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Hiplibrarianship: Thanks for the note. I understand, but Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Layout#"See_also"_section says, "As a general rule, the "See also" section should not repeat links that appear in the article's body or its navigation boxes." I was just trying to follow guidelines. ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:50, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- The MOS:Layout guidelines make only a single reference to mobile, which seems unfortunate to me. Mobile access to English WP has consistently outpaced desktop access since April 2018. (Across all Wikimedia sites, the trend begins November 2017.) I'm a big fan of Navigation boxes and Categories, but since noticing their absence on mobile, I've become fond of See also sections and templates. I typically prefer to edit rather than advocate for guideline changes, but I may bring this to WP:MOS:Talk for consideration. — HipLibrarianship talk 04:51, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Hiplibrarianship: By all means, feel free, and let me know if anything changes. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:03, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- The MOS:Layout guidelines make only a single reference to mobile, which seems unfortunate to me. Mobile access to English WP has consistently outpaced desktop access since April 2018. (Across all Wikimedia sites, the trend begins November 2017.) I'm a big fan of Navigation boxes and Categories, but since noticing their absence on mobile, I've become fond of See also sections and templates. I typically prefer to edit rather than advocate for guideline changes, but I may bring this to WP:MOS:Talk for consideration. — HipLibrarianship talk 04:51, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Hotel Amour
Hi, I noticed you added a stub tag to the article Hotel Amour, but on the talk page you assessed the album as a start. Was this just an oversight? Thanks. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:01, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars: I often use 'rater' to automatically assess articles. So, yes, sorry for the discrepancy! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:02, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
Danielle Outlaw
Hi there
I happened upon Danielle Outlaw and saw what I was sure was an unsourced, no-reason-to-keep-edit, but looking over the history it seems the page is being improved by a few novice editors with help from some more experienced ones? I am not going to re-add the material, as it's still unsourced and badly written, but just want to apologize if I was too hasty. Hydromania (talk) 03:57, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Hydromania: No problem. The article is currently being improved as part of an educational assignment, so I'm trying to leave talk page feedback and encourage editors to make further improvements. Feel free to edit the article as you see fit. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 04:15, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
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DYK for Pioneer Square pergola
On 28 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pioneer Square pergola, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Pioneer Square pergola in Seattle has been damaged by semi-trucks and Seahawks fans? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pioneer Square pergola. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Pioneer Square pergola), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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