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BJU and race

I'd be happy to engage you in a discussion about the extent of coverage given to BJU's racial policies on the Bob Jones University article's talk page.--John Foxe (talk) 14:57, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

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June 2014

Hello, I'm Srich32977. Your recent edit to the page Bowe Bergdahl appears to have added incorrect information, so I have removed it for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Hello. Where you got the idea that the Taliban Five were members of a sovereign government is beyond me. The article certainly does not say so. If they were, the US would not have kept them at Gitmo for all of these years. Nor did Hagel say this as a POW exchange. (Nor were the 5 legitimate/lawful combatants.) Here is the diff that concerns me: [1]. Also, I'm disappointed in myself because I did not catch this error earlier. (One week was much to long!) Thanks. – S. Rich (talk) 20:01, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

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Plantar fasciitis

Which reference that I used are you referring to as primary? I do not have WP:OWN issues, I removed what you put into the article for valid reasons. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but it's not personal. I don't have an objection to the material itself if it comes from peer-reviewed secondary sources, but an article from bleacher report by a few chiropractors is insufficient to overturn statements supported by review articles references that are secondary in nature. I am unclear as to which article that is used as a citation in the PF article you are suggesting is primary. Can you clarify? The study you added is a primary study (and a small pilot study at that) and is weak evidence and not MEDRS compliant. TylerDurden8823 (talk) 04:38, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

You have your scientific source now. Listen to reason: the treatment is to stretch the calf, strengthen the opposing muscles. Now live up to your username, Tyler Durden, and do the right thing rather than act like the tools and douchbags Durden fought against. 04:42, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

My username is irrelevant here. I chose it only because I like the movie and it is not a metaphor for how I edit Wikipedia. Regarding the scientific source, I must urge you to read WP:MEDRS. Techniques to stretch the plantar fascia and achilles tendon are already mentioned within the treatment section. I have found no review articles discussing tibialis anterior strengthening as a form of treatment for plantar fasciitis. If you are familiar with such a review, please send it my way and I'll take a look. I am also a bit troubled by your behavior on the PF page and I found it to be inappropriate to accuse me of WP:OWN when I made no such claims of ownership and removed the content you added with clear edit summary explanations rooted in Wikipedia policy. I haven't been discourteous to you, so I would appreciate it if you would reply in kind. TylerDurden8823 (talk) 04:49, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Also, please note that I did not undo other edits made to the page by other users (e.g., Blue Rasberry's contribution from today). Another page to be familiar with since you brought up WP:OWN would be this one. I never exhibited any of these behaviors. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Ownership_of_articles#Examples_of_ownership_behaviour TylerDurden8823 (talk) 05:28, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

A couple of issues

Civility is required. More poor quality comment such as in the edit summary here [2] will result in you loosing your ability to edit
No it won't. Abductive (reasoning) 17:52, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Heh, a blunt response to a threatening comment. Still, basic civility is needed for Wikipedia to function (WP:NICE), and policies mean more when enforced. Thus I don't really understand where you disagree. —WOFall (talk) 19:33, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Secondary sources are generally needed per WP:MEDRS. This is a primary source [3] and this is not suitable [4] Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 05:16, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Good job making a new article that made "in the news"! EMachine03 (talk) 20:40, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you

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One of the rudest edit summaries I have ever seen. :-(

https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Shuja%27iyya&diff=prev&oldid=618503788

Dear Abductive - your comment "(Coordinates overspecified by some dimbulb who who couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel." on the above edit in my view is way way beyond anything I would expect to see on wikipedia. Totally and absolutely uncalled for. I can not understand what your problem is considering you are happily reverting peoples pages with no explanations.Andrewgprout (talk) 06:28, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

People point coordinates to their own houses or other inappropriate places, rather than the topic of the article. Abductive (reasoning) 21:18, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

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Janice Dowell

Do you really feel strongly about this deletion? Bearian (talk) 17:27, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Of course. There are about 2 million professors in the world. Dang near all of their bios would read like hers. Abductive (reasoning) 22:26, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm trying to give you the hint that a deletion without discussion might be controversial. Bearian (talk) 22:52, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

I expect to prevail. Abductive (reasoning) 03:17, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

"FUAD, academic booster"

I'm afraid your edit summary is more summary than I can handle. Could you please explain it? Paradoctor (talk) 12:12, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Changyuraptor

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Deleted artist page

I just got back from a trip and saw that you deleted an article I was working on about an artist. Please restore it so I can continue to improve it. I don't understand what the problem was. I cited a number of reliable sources. Now all the material is gone as I did not save a copy.--Artzi (talk) 08:33, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

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Need Citations on your West Africat Ebola edits

You'll need to have a citation for your edits on this article. Also don't add information to the lead section without incorporating expanded material about the edit in the body of the article. Us normal editors have too much to do without cleaning up your edits. Its far less time consuming just to revert your entire edit. --Aflafla1 (talk) 20:09, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

"Normal editors"? Are you suggesting I'm abnormal? Or is that just a tacit admission that none of the regular editors of the article bothered to add those very important events that occurred in West Point for days and days until prodded? Abductive (reasoning) 05:38, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

The latter. Sorry about the confusion. --Aflafla1 (talk) 00:56, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

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Hello Abductive.
I added some recent information published by a magazine about Cleopatra Abdou, it also mentioned her current position so I also used it to reference it. In doing so, I noticed that the whole reference section is not done using "<"ref">" but using "<"sup">" which I never saw before, and I have a feeling is not the right way. If you think the article is on the right path I can try to fix that section. --Crystallizedcarbon (talk) 16:33, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 August newsletter

The final of the 2014 WikiCup begins in a few short minutes! Our eight finalists are listed below, along with their placement in Round 4:

Godot13 (submissions), a WikiCup newcomer, finished top of Pool A and was the round's highest scorer. Godot is a featured picture specialist, claiming large numbers of points due to high-quality scans of historical documents, especially banknotes.
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"Cite book" redirect

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Masters of the universe characters

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O'Reilly Island

You added the phrase "in 11 m of water" to the description of the finding of the wreck; however, I don't see that depth information in the cited reference, and you didn't add a new reference for it. Would you please add the missing reference in which you saw that information? Also, please use {{convert}}. Thanks for your help! Johnson487682 (talk) 18:25, 11 September 2014 (UTC)