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UR MR. GAY

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It has been a while since this topic has been brought up. When the topic was last discussed in 2007, there were no reliable sources. However, I have found some sources that mention "UR MR. GAY" after the release of Super Mario Galaxy 2 on Destructoid and Escapist Magazine due to Galaxy 2's alleged "response message", "YA IM R U?". I have also found a source from Engadget from 2007 which points the source of the topic to NeoGAF. Yoshiman6464 ♫🥚 18:36, 13 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Released for Nvidia shield in China

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Should this information be added to the article? It was released today in China in 1080p thanks to a deal between Nvidia and Nintendo.[1]

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  1. ^ gamespot https://www.gamespot.com/articles/super-mario-galaxy-out-now-for-nvidia-shield-but-o/1100-6457648/. Retrieved 31 March 2018. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

title

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@Harimua Thailand: the game is only known as "Super Mario Wii" in South Korea. In most other countries the game is titled "Super Mario Galaxy" and since this is a much more common name the article should use this title. Jc86035 (talk) 07:08, 28 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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What should we link to in the "External links" section: [1], [2] or [3]? All three are official sites of the game. Glades12 (talk) 12:21, 1 July 2020 (UTC) The current link is 3, though it's now dead and archived. 12:23, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

English

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I think this article shoub in American english like other Mario and Japan articles because this game has nothing to do with the UK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.185.203.161 (talk) 02:19, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A serious proposal to incorporate 'U R MR GAY'

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The flag at the top of the talk page indicating that 'U R MR GAY' has been determined to be non-notable by consensus seems to have been added in 2007, and I think circumstances have changed such that briefly mentioning it under legacy or something would be appropriate. 'U R MR GAY' has sustained coverage by many established and reliable sources, such as Kotaku, Joystiq (now hosted by Engadget), GamesRadar, all of which were published in 2007 around when the game was published, and the topic resurfaced in 2010 when the sequel was released, and was covered by Kotaku again, Eurogamer (spanish edition), Destructoid, The Escapist, and in addendum to being covered by gaming news, it was also covered by two Spanish newspapers: El País and 20 minutos. Previous discussions have failed to establish notability in reliable sources, but I think that per the sources provided, it should be incorporated. I also think that previous discussions focused more on the juvenile nature of the meme, and whether internet memes have a place on Wikipedia rather than a discussion of notability.

Some additional sources that came up but I felt weren't reliable include JeuxActu, Blast Magazine, and Unnützes Wissen für Gamer: 555 verrückte Fakten über Videospiele (English: Useless Knowledge for Gamers: 555 Ridiculous Facts About Videogames), a 2017 German book that strikes me as about as 'useful' as any other 'gamer fact' book, but worth noting as it shows 'U R MR GAY' in print media.

@Yoshiman6464: @ThomasO1989: @Jaguar: @TheDisneyGamer: @Tom.Reding: @TheJoebro64: To help facilitate discussion, I've pinged users who have made significant contributions to the article, as well as Yoshiman6464, who previously brought up sources that could be incorporated regarding the meme. Waxworker (talk) 10:56, 13 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please forgive me for being brutally honest, but I don't want to cheapen this article by giving credence to a juvenile and frivolous meme. Its coverage doesn't serve as a reflection of worth or notability ― if anything it's a testament to the state of video game journalism. ♦ jaguar 23:17, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Waxworker: Given the limited responses, it may worth considering an RfC for wider input.  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 21:34, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

English

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Why this article in written in stinking crappy British English and DMY format, Should it be written in American English and MDY like all Mario articles? Heck, even the Simple English Wikipedia article has it written in American English.38.25.236.56 (talk) 04:45, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:ENGVAR, if there aren't important ties to the subject either way, you just stick with whatever version it was started/substantially written as. Sergecross73 msg me 12:50, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just because this comes up so often, I actually checked. The article was originally written with MDY dates, and to choose a substantial milestone, was still written with MDY dates upon the game's NA release. I'm not going to bisect the history and figure out when the dates changed, and I personally don't care that much, but if we're going to apply WP:ENGVAR, then let's apply it. Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 18:43, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm just talking in a general sense here, no idea if it's being followed. I'm simply staying it has nothing to do with anything that IP was going off about. My personal stance is that it simply does not matter - Galaxy is a massive global title with no notational ties to either style of English. Sergecross73 msg me 19:18, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This would be perfect for r/ShitAmericansSay. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 01:30, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So i asked ChatGPT why this article was written in British English and this is what i've told:

"User Hello, Why the Super Mario Galaxy Wikipedia article was written in British English even though the game has nothing to do with the UK.

ChatGPT The language style used in Wikipedia articles can vary depending on the preferences of the editors who contribute to them. Wikipedia encourages a neutral point of view and aims to be inclusive of various English language variations. As an international project, Wikipedia allows for both British English and American English, among other variations, to be used in its articles.

The choice of using British English in the Super Mario Galaxy Wikipedia article might have been made by the editors who initially created and developed the article. These editors could have been more familiar with British English conventions or simply preferred to use that style. It's important to note that Wikipedia is a collaborative platform, and articles are continually edited and updated by volunteers from around the world.

While Super Mario Galaxy itself is not directly related to the UK, the choice of language style in the article is more likely a reflection of the preferences of the editors involved rather than any specific connection to the game. It's worth noting that the use of British English on Wikipedia articles is not limited to topics directly associated with the UK, and it's a common practice to have articles in various English language variations to accommodate the global nature of the project."38.25.164.164 (talk) 12:26, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ChatGPT is right, and it's not giving any reason to switch it over to American English. It's more likely that the user(s) who worked really hard to bring this article up to FA-status preferred to write in British English, and it's quite disheartening to have users complain about the use of DMY dates just because they don't like it. ThomasO1989 (talk) 16:20, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
ChatGPT isn't right, as I have shown above that BrEng was not used by the editors who initially created and developed the article. Anyway, it's fun to see people come in and blindly quote a policy without regard to the facts and then another accusing people of WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Maybe WP:IAR would have been a less personal guideline to throw around. Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 00:28, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the page milestones, it simply looks like it got switched during the efforts to finally pass its GA nomination. It was American English for its multiple failed GA attempts, and British English when it finally passed in 2016. It's nothing to get upset about or consult Chat GPT about (???), it just appears the person who finally got the article into decent shape writes in British English. I highly doubt the person who wrote that initial thoughtless comment was thinking of any of this, it was just idle complaining. Sergecross73 msg me 00:49, 6 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I asked ChatGPT this question:
"Does that making the Super Mario Galaxy Wikipedia article in British English while other Mario articles in American English mean that Wikipedia users don't care about consistency?"
And this is what ChatGPT told me:
"The choice to use different variants of English in different articles on Wikipedia is typically not a reflection of users not caring about consistency. Wikipedia is a collaborative platform where users from all around the world contribute and edit articles. As a result, there can be variations in writing style, including the use of different English variants.
Wikipedia aims to be a comprehensive and neutral source of information, and it does have guidelines in place regarding the use of English variants. The choice of variant often depends on the article's subject matter, the location or context of the topic, or the preferences of the editors involved.
For example, the decision to use British English for the Super Mario Galaxy article while other Mario articles use American English could be due to the game being developed by a Japanese company (Nintendo) and the influence of British English in certain regions where the game may have been particularly popular. It may have been a conscious choice by the editors to reflect these factors.
While consistency is generally encouraged on Wikipedia, it is also important to accommodate different contributors and respect the diversity of users on the platform. If there are concerns about consistency or discrepancies, it is possible to engage in discussions on the article's talk page to reach a consensus on the appropriate language variant to be used." EquestriaGirlsFan2003 (talk) 20:28, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Unless you can demonstate that Galaxy is specific US ties to be written in American English than there is no reason to change it away from British English per WP:ENGVAR.  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 23:49, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think some are arguing that someone actually violated ENGVAR long ago when they changed it from American to British. Which may be technically true, but probably not pursuing considering it's been stable at British for 6-7 years and has no particular ties to either. Sergecross73 msg me 01:59, 11 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Luigi

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I think the article should mention that Luigi differs greatly in controls from Mario: He loses air when he spins underwater, he runs faster than Mario, Jumps Higher, and slides before stopping. It is mentioned in other wikis such as the Mario Wiki and the Mario Galaxy Fandom Wiki. It is also mentioned on pages 337-338 of the official Prima Guide visible on archive.org 84.97.7.235 (talk) 23:56, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Listed Platforms

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The "Platforms" section on the right-side card does not contain the Wii U and Switch versions listed in the (Top) part of the page. Is this voluntary? Joshua Vandaële (talk) 00:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's not an accident or an oversight, if that's what you mean. Backwards compatibility or barebones compilation releases generally aren't listed here. Sergecross73 msg me 13:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the Switch version is a bit more than a barebones compilation. The game is rendered at a higher resolution (from 480p to 1080p), there are new textures representing the Joy-Cons instead of the Wiimote, and an entirely new button has been introduced to perform Mario's "spinning" action instead of shaking the Joy-Cons (though shaking is still supported, I believe). Although, I am quite new to Wikipedia, and I couldn't really find a page discussing what constitutes a "Platform release." Joshua Vandaële (talk) 12:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All those changes are still relatively minimal-- the core gameplay or presentation hasn't changed at all and the game is more or less being emulated under the hood. ThomasO1989 (talk) 15:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, it's a re-release of the game, not a new game, I do not expect changes to the core gameplay. The presentation has been updated to fit to the switch's control scheme and visuals, and the game isn't being emulated at all (outside of some GPU-specific tasks), it has been compiled for the Switch platform. Joshua Vandaële (talk) 15:09, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The other aspect is, again, the "compilation" part. You'll see that, for example, Super Mario Bros. 3 doesn't have SNES as a platform even though it was included on Super Mario Bros. All-Stars for the SNES.
I get it. It's a confusing, non-intuitive set up. I don't even really agree with it personally. But there was a pretty broad agreement on handling it this way and it would take quite an effort to change the consensus on it. Sergecross73 msg me 15:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Gusty Garden Galaxy" listed at Redirects for discussion

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The redirect Gusty Garden Galaxy has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 11 § Gusty Garden Galaxy until a consensus is reached. Mia Mahey (talk) 23:21, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Super Mario Wii: Galaxy Adventure" listed at Redirects for discussion

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The redirect Super Mario Wii: Galaxy Adventure has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 July 14 § Super Mario Wii: Galaxy Adventure until a consensus is reached. Mia Mahey (talk) 16:36, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Power-ups

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There are several differences between power-ups of the mainline games and the ones in Super Mario Galaxy:

- The ice and fire Mario power-ups wears off after a few seconds and are not lost after taking damage,

- The Boo power-up is lost upon touching light or taking damage, but does not wear off,

- The Bee power-up is lost upon taking damage or touching water, but does not wear off,

- Spring Mario loses his power up upon touching a launch star, touching water, or taking damage.

Are those notable enough to be mentioned? (They can all be seen on page 6 of the manual). Joshua Vandaële (talk) 16:19, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No. This level of detail is inappropriate for general readers and is best suited for a game guide. All we need to say what each power-up does. ThomasO1989 (talk) 17:05, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, there's a ton of bad sources in the recent additions about Mario vs Luigi too.
FYI, this is a Featured Article. It's the highest quality rating a Wikipedia article can get. It doesn't mean "perfect", but they often times don't need radical changes made to them either. Sergecross73 msg me 18:34, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring

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Six recent edits of mine have now been undid with little justification, I could understand the first one due to a source marked as unreliable, however the five others were:

- Adding sources to already existing information without citations (121st star, Message sent to the Wii Message Board)

- Luigi plays significantly different than Mario and adds a challenge, and is not "replay the game exactly like you did previously" unlike the previous iteration of the article could lead a reader to believe

- Adding missing details with actions related to the Star Pointer (which all are listed but one, which was the one I added)

- Missing clarifications of the use of the "Spin" technique, which is not only a melee attack but also a movement option, with movement being arguably more prevalent in than the melee attack in the game, however it previously not being mentioned once in the article

- And a small clarification that the second player can also sweep aside projectiles, and not only prevent enemies from moving.

I believe it says at the very top of this very page "if you can update or improve it [the article], please do so." So can I please have some more insights on what's going on? Joshua Vandaële (talk) 19:35, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Thats not what edit warring means. I reverted your changes once, and another editor changed the rest of your different edits once. Please read WP:EW to better understand its definition.
  2. Yes, anyone is free to edit. But that doesn't mean your edits are required to stay. It takes quite a bit of time to learn how to edit Wikipedia. Unfortunately, there's a bunch of reasons why your edits weren't actually improvements. A lot of your sources are not up to Wikipedia's standards. Wikis violate WP:USERG, for example.
  3. Anither things most newbies don't understand - Wikipedia isn't a game guide. We're an encyclopedia. We may describe a game, but we're not a help guide, and we don't teach people how to play the game.
  4. See my comment in the section above. This article is already in extremely good shape. It doesn't need much work, it already largely covers what it should. I recommend, especially as a beginner, to find an article that needs lots of improvement. Sergecross73 msg me 19:58, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Same rationale as Serge mentions above. And I did not revert with "little justification", I say explicitly in my edit summary that "the level of detail is best reserved for game guides, and some of these references are unreliable/dubious." We don't need to go into such detail about how the spin works or how different Luigi plays from Mario. We're writing for someone who wants the general jist of the game, not for someone who wants to learn how to play the game. Another way to think about this: if you were going to verbally explain the game to someone who knows nothing about it, would you go into this minute detail? ThomasO1989 (talk) 22:14, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, same here. You can check the WP:PAGEHISTORY to see the WP:EDITSUMMARY comments that explains why you work was undone. Sergecross73 msg me 22:18, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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