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Requested move 28 April 2016
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: pages moved. Andrewa (talk) 04:14, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
– This page was moved to "Firewatch (video game)" on February 26, 2016 without discussion by User:SusanDDD in order to make way for a borderline advertisement page for FireWatch (ERP Software). Based on traffic stats, it's clear that the video game is the primary use of the term. SusanDDD has no editing activity outside of creating said software page and the company that made it, so it's possible that she is either a paid editor or COI but that's outside the purview of this RM. Axem Titanium (talk) 22:35, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
- Move I have never heard the term used other than to refer to the video game, and the ERP software's relevance is questionable. Pianoman320 (talk) 22:47, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
- Agree per arguments above ~ Dissident93 (talk) 23:52, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose first we have always had a disambiguation page. It's difficult to follow what moves exactly related to the software have happened but that's no reason to put a new video game over firewatch. Question @Axem Titanium: @SusanDDD: @Pianoman320: @Dissident93: can someone say what percentage of the "firewatch" minus "fire watch" print book refs refer to the video game? I cannot find a single hit after flipping through the first few pages of results? Also seems to come up in journal titles:
- FireWatch, by Virginia Department of Forestry.
- Firewatch, by Arkansas Fire Academy.
- Firewatch, by National Association of Fire Equipment Distributors (U.S.)
- Campus Firewatch,
- FireWatch : a tribute to America's Bravest VHS 1996In ictu oculi (talk) 08:47, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- Alternatively redirect firewatch to the same place as fire watch and move disambiguation page to Firewatch (disambiguation)
- The disambiguation page was originally at "Fire watch" before being moved to "Firewatch" in response to SusanDDD's changes. For whatever it's worth, "firewatch" is not a real word so a hatnote here referring to a dab page at "Fire watch" might be appropriate instead of using "(disambiguation)". Regardless, "Firewatch" has always held the video game article, until very recently, and there were no other such articles about other things called "Firewatch or "FireWatch". Axem Titanium (talk) 20:12, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- Alternatively redirect firewatch to the same place as fire watch and move disambiguation page to Firewatch (disambiguation)
- Support: I don't recall the term Firewatch (without the space) is used in other articles. The journals listed above seem to be related to the actual fire watch rather than firewatch. (Is Firewatch even a word?) Most online hits are about the game as well. AdrianGamer (talk) 14:37, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. SSTflyer 15:25, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
- oppose WP:RECENTISM ; this word, without the space, has been used for decades [1] as an alternate spelling of "firewatch", both eh militia and firefighting meanings -- 70.51.46.195 (talk) 08:01, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- WP:RECENTISM is an essay, not a policy or guideline. The fact that other things called Firewatch in the past never got their own articles calls into question whether it even matters that this article is recent. If you're arguing only for the dictionary definition, it belongs on Wiktionary, not here. Axem Titanium (talk) 14:50, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- Support - per Axem's rationale. It's clearly the primary topic in the realm of Wikipedia articles. Sergecross73 msg me 23:06, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- Support, and move proposed Firewatch (disambiguation) to Fire watch as well. Apart from the ERP, all other uses primarily use the variation without the space, thus this falls under WP:SMALLDETAILS (in addition to WP:PRIMARY). Satellizer el Bridget (Talk) 13:48, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- Support as primary topic. -- ferret (talk) 14:07, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
- Support I agree that "fire watch" is the preferred version used by firefighters, not the space-free version, and as long as there's a hat to the disambiguation page, the move of this game to "Firewatch" is inline with naming conventions. --MASEM (t) 18:29, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- Support per all of the above, noting also that recentism has been agreed upon as inapplicable to disambiguation issues. —Torchiest talkedits 20:26, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.