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This is a collection of discussions on the deletion of articles related to Transportation. It is one of many deletion lists coordinated by WikiProject Deletion sorting. Anyone can help maintain the list on this page.

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Transportation

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Goldcross Cycles (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Stores appears closed in 2013: https://www.rotorburn.com/forums/index.php?threads/goldcross-closing-down.263422/ . Very scant article with few details. Teraplane (talk) 05:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

B2 (New York City bus) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable bus route that could be redirected or deleted. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 04:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per WP:ROTM essay. There does not appear that WP:SIGCOV is present (practically no WP:independent sources). Викидим (talk) 05:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
B3 (New York City bus) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable bus route that could be redirected or deleted. See AFD for B2. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 04:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per WP:ROTM essay. There does not appear that WP:SIGCOV is present (practically no WP:independent sources). Викидим (talk) 05:03, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
B4 (New York City bus) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable bus route that could be redirected or deleted. See AFD for B2 and B3. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 04:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per WP:ROTM essay. There does not appear that WP:SIGCOV is present (practically no WP:independent sources). Викидим (talk) 05:02, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
B7 (New York City bus) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable bus route that could be redirected or deleted. See AFDs for B2, B3, and B4. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 04:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per WP:ROTM essay. There does not appear that WP:SIGCOV is present (practically no WP:independent sources). Викидим (talk) 05:02, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
B8 (New York City bus) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable bus route that could be redirected or deleted. See AFDs for B2, B3, B4, and B7. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 04:21, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per WP:ROTM essay. There does not appear that WP:SIGCOV is present (practically no WP:independent sources). Викидим (talk) 05:01, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
B9 (New York City bus) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable bus route that could be redirected or deleted. See AFDs for B2, B3, B4, B7, and B8. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 04:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per WP:ROTM essay. There does not appear that WP:SIGCOV is present (practically no WP:independent sources). Викидим (talk) 05:01, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
B11 (New York City bus) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable bus route that could be redirected or deleted. See AFDs for B2, B3, B4, B7, and B8. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 04:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per WP:ROTM essay. There does not appear that WP:SIGCOV is present (practically no WP:independent sources). Викидим (talk) 05:01, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
B12 (New York City bus) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable bus route that could be redirected or deleted. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 04:23, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

B6 (New York City bus) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable bus route that could be redirected or deleted. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 04:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect per WP:ROTM essay. There does not appear that WP:SIGCOV is present. Викидим (talk) 04:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
B1 (New York City bus) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable bus route that could be redirected or deleted. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 04:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect. The non-trivial information is contained in the article does not seem to be WP:Verifiable. Викидим (talk) 04:57, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Saudi Arabian Airlines Flight 3830 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:GNG. An incident while the aircraft is taxiing after maintenance with no passengers on board is not notable. The aircraft was not in revenue service at the time, so assigning a flight number is improper. I can not find significant coverage of this incident, with the only WP:RS being this brief accident report. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 22:14, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2018 Crozet, Virginia, train crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:LASTING and WP:NOTNEWS. Train-truck accidents are very common in the United States. The only reason this specific incident got so much coverage is because there happened to be some politicians on the train. CutlassCiera 21:40, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep This one is pretty well written and sourced. Regardless of the Not news and other linked reminders ... Category:Railway accidents and incidents in the United States by state or territory is evidence that these disaster articles are an accepted part of Wikipedia. — Maile (talk) 01:30, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep This did have lasting coverage, including coverage that actually occurred over a year after the event - which is already currently in the article - and as such the two arguments for deletion don't apply. SportingFlyer T·C 01:33, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep While notability is not inherited, it can be conferred, and the fact this was a special chartered train - not there happened to be some politicans on [it] - means this was notable, and received coverage accordingly. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:36, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Being a "special train" isn't grounds for being notable. If one of the Cass Shays hit a car and someone died there wouldn't be nearly this much coverage. CutlassCiera 18:49, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It may be a common occurrence, but this particular incident was well documented, both by the NTSB and the media. There are numerous public domain images of the incident, and it is covered with extensive detail in both the court and NTSB records. Also it is notable that a heritage train set was involved in the incident, and it was not a regularly scheduled passenger train. Cocoaguy (talk) 18:45, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Being "well documented" doesn't mean it's notable. A bunch of routine coverage of a type of accident that is extremely common and run of the mill just because American news media is known for being keen to report on things that will get eyes, while not necessarily very notable. Basically every accident involving a train and truck is investigated by either the NTSB or the local police. Being a "heritage train" is also not grounds to being notable. Reading and Northern 425 hit a car and there isn't an article on that minor incident. CutlassCiera 18:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per prev noms. Article name does have grammar error in it and if kept should be moved to 2018 Crozet, Virginia train crash without the the second comma after Virginia. -
Epluribusunumyall (talk) 07:50, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Epluribusunumyall: The second comma is correct - see MOS:GEOCOMMA. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:53, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pi.1415926535 I get what MOS:GEOCOMMA is trying to relay, but my reading of it is more in regards to sentences within an article and not the title of an article. For a title it doesn't really make grammatical sense - in my opinion - to have the second comma create a parenthetical of just "train crash," as it leaves context lacking from the rest of the title sentence. - Epluribusunumyall (talk) 06:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Plug-in hybrid car energy efficiency (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not encyclopedic; Wikipedia is not a buyer's guide. The article is a feature and cost comparison between a selection of vehicles produced 7 to 10 years ago. It consists of only U.S.-market vehicles, and keeping it both up-to-date and complete on an ongoing basis would be impossible. Sable232 (talk) 16:35, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. The stats could ofcourse be included into the wikipedia pages for the individual car models like is done in Honda Accord (ninth generation)#Honda Accord (ninth generation). Rolluik (talk) 19:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is also similar in scope to the table in Miles per gallon gasoline equivalent#Electric and plug-in hybrid electric vehicles. Rolluik (talk) 19:34, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
İzmir–Nazilli Regional (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Tagged over a decade ago as unsourced. Cites on Turkish article are all primary sources and don’t show notability Chidgk1 (talk) 07:15, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ribble Link Trust (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unnotable subject on it's own, WP:MERGE to the main article on the Ribble Link or delete. -Samoht27 (talk) 05:11, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

International Motorcycle Shows (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Defunct tradeshow. Was nation-wide for about a decade, but it fails WP:GNG and WP:NORG. mikeblas (talk) 20:36, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Banaras Flyover (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Does not meet WP:GNG as well as WP:NGEO. Article needs a rewrite as well. TNM101 (chat) 15:25, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The article is terribly written, I wholeheartedly agree, but I don't believe this is a candidate for WP:TNT. A quick google search (in English only) pulls up enough results to meet WP:GNG. I'm sure there's much more in Urdu. Also, I think it may have also been named the Varanasi Flyover at one point? Angryapathy (talk) 15:33, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I didn't mean the reason for the nom was its poor writing, it was actually about it not meeting notability criteria. Although if there are reliable sources, I may as well withdraw the nom TNM101 (chat) 17:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is not the Varanasi Flyover. The lack of details in the initial description may have led to confusion, making it seem poorly written. However, the actual information we gathered through a detailed survey was perceived as promotional by some individuals, which may have added to the misunderstanding.Abdulmuqtaddirkhan (talk) 17:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)Abdul Muqtaddir Khan[reply]
  • Delete. I don't see enough in the way of independent sources to regard it as notable -- as far as I can see references 6 to 9 are the same, accounting for almost half of all the references. Why should any flyover be regarded as notable? Only if something important happened on it. As it happens the city where I live (Marseilles, France) has a flyover about 3 km in length, the avenue Alexandre Fleming, over the district of Belle de Mai, and it's not the only one, but I'd be very surprised if anyone wanted Wikipedia articles about them. Athel cb (talk) 17:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah but that's not made due to the rapes and the killings in Qasba_Aligarh_massacreAbdulmuqtaddirkhan (talk) 17:56, 27 December 2024 (UTC)AbdulMuqtaddirKhan[reply]
  • Keep The sources currently in the article and even more in a BEFORE search do demonstrate it passes WP:GNG as a major infrastructure project, though it does need a rewrite. SportingFlyer T·C 01:35, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
2007 Comilla bus crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A WP:News article based on a brief burst of news coverage. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 19:50, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Already PROD'd so not eligible for a Soft Deletion.
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2020 Pennsylvania Turnpike crash (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:LASTING and also WP:NEVENT CutlassCiera 23:34, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. Again, this is not a question of if YOU think this subject is notable but what reliable sources say. Our own opinions are not relevant. A source review would be helpful.
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Alpha Jax (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It has been 3 years, and not even one has been made, this is why we have wp:not, it fails this for many reasons. Slatersteven (talk) 17:17, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting to see if there is additional support for Redirection.
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İAOSB Müdürlüğü (Tram İzmir) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Appears to lack any significant coverage and fails WP:GNG. Note that train stations have no inherent notability (per WP:NTRAINSTATION) and I'm just not seeing anything beyond routine sources. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:36, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Redirect to line, I did my best to find sources and did not find any independent sigcov of this station. Turkish Wikipedia's sources were not helpful. Support similarly redirecting other station articles to this line. Toadspike [Talk] 14:43, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello,
Thank you for your feedback. I understand the concerns about notability, but I believe that the articles on the stations are important and can be kept. The stations on the Izmir T3 tram line play a significant role in the city's public transportation infrastructure, and I am willing to support their notability with additional sources and content.
The Izmir T3 line is a vital part of the city's transportation network, and these stations are integral to that. There are independent sources, such as local news articles and reports about transportation, that cover these stations and their significance. I am happy to provide these sources to demonstrate that the stations are notable beyond routine sources.
To strengthen the articles and address the notability concerns, I propose:
  • Independent news sources: Adding citations from local newspapers, transportation reports, and public relations materials to highlight the stations' role in Izmir's transport system.
  • Their contribution to public transport: Emphasizing the importance of these stations in the context of the wider public transport network in Izmir.
  • Diverse sourcing: Supplementing the articles with a broader range of sources, such as independent studies or official reports, to give a clearer picture of their significance.
Given their role in the transportation system, I believe these stations do meet the notability guidelines. If there are any specific additional sources you would recommend, I am open to including them.
I also understand the concerns and am open to improving the articles further. I believe with the right additions, these articles can meet Wikipedia's standards for notability.
Thank you again for your input! Erdem Ozturk 2021 (talk) 19:17, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Farakka Port (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The existence of this port is questionable due to a serious lack of sources. A Google search yields no results for the so-called "Farakka Port". The cited sources in the article refer instead to a Farakka inland waterway, used for transporting coal to the Farakka Super Thermal Power Station near the Farakka Barrage. It seems it is actually referring to a floating terminal listed here. In any case, the topic fails to meet WP:GNG. The Doom Patrol (talk) 09:01, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest merge some supported content to a section in Farakka. - Davidships (talk) 13:49, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - there is not a lot of coverage in English, but it's enough to verify, and combine with significant coverage in Bengali, and it passes GNG. I added another English language source. I've been redirecting and merging a lot of unsourced Indian-related stubs, but this is an easy keep. Bearian (talk) 11:31, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Stations

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İAOSB Müdürlüğü (Tram İzmir) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Appears to lack any significant coverage and fails WP:GNG. Note that train stations have no inherent notability (per WP:NTRAINSTATION) and I'm just not seeing anything beyond routine sources. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:36, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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  • Redirect to line, I did my best to find sources and did not find any independent sigcov of this station. Turkish Wikipedia's sources were not helpful. Support similarly redirecting other station articles to this line. Toadspike [Talk] 14:43, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello,
Thank you for your feedback. I understand the concerns about notability, but I believe that the articles on the stations are important and can be kept. The stations on the Izmir T3 tram line play a significant role in the city's public transportation infrastructure, and I am willing to support their notability with additional sources and content.
The Izmir T3 line is a vital part of the city's transportation network, and these stations are integral to that. There are independent sources, such as local news articles and reports about transportation, that cover these stations and their significance. I am happy to provide these sources to demonstrate that the stations are notable beyond routine sources.
To strengthen the articles and address the notability concerns, I propose:
  • Independent news sources: Adding citations from local newspapers, transportation reports, and public relations materials to highlight the stations' role in Izmir's transport system.
  • Their contribution to public transport: Emphasizing the importance of these stations in the context of the wider public transport network in Izmir.
  • Diverse sourcing: Supplementing the articles with a broader range of sources, such as independent studies or official reports, to give a clearer picture of their significance.
Given their role in the transportation system, I believe these stations do meet the notability guidelines. If there are any specific additional sources you would recommend, I am open to including them.
I also understand the concerns and am open to improving the articles further. I believe with the right additions, these articles can meet Wikipedia's standards for notability.
Thank you again for your input! Erdem Ozturk 2021 (talk) 19:17, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:21, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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