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Cossacks (video games series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No clear evidence this is independently notable as a series or passes WP:GNG. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 12:13, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rat Race (video game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG; only notability is its announcement and subsequent cancellation, with sources being mainly on these two details. MimirIsSmart (talk) 12:52, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  1. https://www.wired.com/2007/11/writer-explains/
  2. https://www.ign.com/articles/2007/10/17/ps3-getting-caught-up-in-rat-race
  3. https://www.ign.com/articles/2007/11/28/rat-race-qa
  4. https://www.wired.com/2007/10/ps3s-episodic-c/
  5. https://www.eurogamer.net/rat-race-unveiled-for-psn
  6. https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sony-enters-the-rat-race/1100-6181209/
  7. https://web.archive.org/web/20080119145832/http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1575219/20071128/index.jhtml
There's enough to support an article here. Sergecross73 msg me 18:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The notability standard is much higher for cancelled games, but there is reliable sourcing as above and in the earlier AfD about the gameplay details, development, and even some early feedback from outlets that they weren't getting good vibes from the game. This deserves to be kept. VRXCES (talk) 21:55, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Sergecross73 did post sources here, but all are passing mentions or non-significant coverage, interviews (WP:PRIMARY) or routine announcements as regurgitated press releases. Really not convinced about the notability of this game at all. If we took this as meeting WP:GNG, then every upcoming/vaporware/cancelled video game ever would be notable and have its own article too. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 11:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to List of cancelled PlayStation 3 games as an alternative to deletion - The sources are short announcements, not SIGCOV. And one of them is an interview which counts as a primary source. --Mika1h (talk) 13:18, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment - I disagree with some of the assessments above. I've found the MTV source, which is neither routine nor short - its a pretty deep dive. MTV is an RS, and its written by Stephen Totillo, an experienced video game journalist. I also disagree that the coverage is simply routine - the Wired coverage talks about leaked footage, and the poor reception it got, which is anything but routine. And the rest - I don't agree with the label "passing mention" when they're articles entirely dedicated to the subject. Sergecross73 msg me 14:24, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      The MTV article is not "independent of the subject", the writer is recounting an interview and a press release. Regarding the other sources, I guess what constitutes "significant coverage" is subjective but these news announcements satisfy the "directly" part of GNG but not the "in detail" part. They are basically glorified press releases, they are reciting what Sony has told them. The Wired coverage: Yes, it has critical analysis but it's one paragraph, is that 50 words? No way that is "in detail". Again, SIGCOV is subjective but that is setting the bar really low. --Mika1h (talk) 15:14, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • No, that's not quite right, the MTV article is reporting on someone else's interview, and covers other things, like the game's leak on GameTrailers, its poor reception, etc. It's incorrect to try to handwave that away as some sort of interview/press release, its more nuanced than that. Sergecross73 msg me 15:57, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge to List of cancelled PlayStation 3 games (though there isn't much to be added): Doing some in-depth search, MTV's coverage at [1] is decent, but that's where it all stops. Based on my comment above and seeing Mika1h's proposal, this is where I end up. There is simply not enough significant coverage of the game - cancelled projects can be extensively covered, even lesser known ones like Heist (video game). This just doesn't meet WP:GNG, but an alternative to deletion is always preferred. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 19:30, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Red Barrels (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. There seems to be no significant coverage. The focus of the sources are the Outlast games, not the company itself. Suggesting redirection to Outlast as an alternative to deletion. Mika1h (talk) 18:48, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to the edge article currently on the page?--CNMall41 (talk) 21:59, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that gi.biz is SIGCOV, but that Edge article (about Assassin's Creed) only has a passing mention to the company. --Mika1h (talk) 12:57, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's why I was wondering as the Edge article on the page is no where near meeting WP:ORGCRIT. The gi.biz is an industry publication so while it meets ORGCRIT, it is still not enough and not that strong of a reference to meet NCORP standards. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:15, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: It appears their sole product, the Outlast series, would be more notable. Could this be retooled into a series article? IgelRM (talk) 11:27, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The Campaign Trail (Web Game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Low notability and lack of reliable or real sources per WP:GNG. Tadpole2006 (talk) 23:47, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, only a single RS cited for one sentence, the rest of the article cites the website itself or fan websites, obviously going against notability guidelines and WP:NOR. I'll also note that discussion about this article is taking place on the game's subreddit encouraging fans to edit this article, which has a danger of turning into WP:CANVASS. 148.252.145.173 (talk) 00:21, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Clearly not notable. λ NegativeMP1 00:30, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Also a fan of the game but clearly fails GNG. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 18:48, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Paper doll (video games) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. This is more of a thing for Glossary of video game terminology than its own article, IMO. Looking for SIGCOV, I only found articles about dress-up games, making it dubious whether this term even solely applies to this manner of character customization. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 12:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RPG inventories are mentioned in Item (game terminology). There are sections for other genres but not RPGs. --Mika1h (talk) 15:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
TheoTown (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The page was deleted multiple times for A7 and G11 reasons, so I figure having a full deletion discussion might be worth it. The only sources given are primary: the game's website, and the Steam/App Store/Google Play pages and ratings. The only sources I could find were a self-published blog explicitly including affiliate links, and this review, whose website appears to have an editorial team but for which I'm not sure how reliable it is, as only one of the members is an accredited journalist. Still, assuming this counts as a RS, a single source isn't enough for WP:GNG. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 18:22, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep.This is a decent sized game with a decent audience. I play the game a lot and the discord server had over 10,000 members. BooCooE (talk) 17:13, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP:ILIKEIT λ NegativeMP1 20:18, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 21:39, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Old Grandma Hardcore (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No real establishment of notability. The sources provided are: a blog site, the MTV homepage, a BusinessWeek article about her gaming career which seemed quite trivial, and a forum post-esque story pointing back to the aforementioned blog site. Been notability tagged since 2012. I should also add, I suggest not looking up her nickname lest you find links to 'the Hub'. Aydoh8[contribs] 10:36, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It would be helpful to evaluate whether they are solely known for being an older person playing games, which might be better to merge somewhere. The name and blog appear to be run by her grandson and how long did the MTV G-Hole segment run, not to discredit her part. IgelRM (talk) 11:39, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: There's a consensus to keep, but some input from community and the other !votes will appreciated regarding the comments by IgelRM. Another round of discussion can't hurt.
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Keep She's 100% individually notable enough an article at this point. The articles seem to be on the topic of "old person plays games," but at this point, she has become notable in her own right. DarmaniLink (talk) 13:24, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could you elaborate what lasting impact you see at this point? I could perhaps see a merge with Video game culture. IgelRM (talk) 11:46, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WePlay AniMajor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NEVENT; no "enduring historical significance". Janhrach (talk) 17:09, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 23:34, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There are more sources on ruwiki and I would suggest a merge somewhere in any case. IgelRM (talk) 11:13, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Zero Hour (video game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Found reviews in The Games Machine and Softonic, and a news mention in PCGamesN. While this isn't terrible it also isn't enough to pass WP:GNG because PCGamesN doesn't really offer up any critical opinions, and everything else is an unreliable source. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 08:43, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Obviously, this is not a game for an international audience. It's targeted at local Bangladeshis, & it's quite popular here. That is why you will find numerous evaluations in Bangla newspapers. You can also read Sportskeeda's review and IGN's article, "Old-School Rainbow Six Spiritual Successor 'Zero Hour' Drops Launch Trailer" Prantoo Biswas (talk) 18:24, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sportskeeda is not reliable: WP:SPORTSKEEDA. Conyo14 (talk) 18:50, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment A source search should be conducted in Bengali per Prantoo Biswas to see if anything can be turned up. I'd do it myself, but I admittedly don't know the first thing about what Bengali sources are reliable, so I'll leave it in the hands of a more experienced editors. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 21:32, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 08:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep It has notable sources attached to it. This0k (talk) 22:53, 11 December 2024 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKERed-tailed hawk (nest) 06:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which ones? Conyo14 (talk) 23:57, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Covered by The Daily Star, as well as their other potential game Agontuk. IgelRM (talk) 10:54, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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