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Name and project

I know you've had this for awhile, but role accounts aren't allowed. You may want to change it. On another note, you may want to join the ScoutingWikiProject, see WP:SCOUT. — Rlevse • Talk • 09:56, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

User names cannot be a role account or match an company/organization's name. Yours matches an organization's name. Role accounts are accountts used to edit on behalf of an organization/company. You should edit as your name, not your IP. — Rlevse • Talk • 09:49, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Software : Main Page Layout

Well, not that good I think... I request all active members to comment on it. There might be necessity to move a topic above, add somthing, remove too... and else... I wanna make it perfect. Please just comment on it, I will make it that way if it suits the best. – Deb ‖ Poke • EditList ‖ 18:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

WP Computing

Greetings. You are receiving this note as you are a member of this WikiProject. Currently there is not much of activity in the project and I am hoping to revive the project with your help. I have made a few changes to the project page Diff. You are welcome to make suggestions of improvement / changes in the design. I have also make a proposal to AutoTagg articles with {{WikiProject Computing}} for the descendant wikiprojects articles also. Please express your opinion here -- TinuCherian ^{(Wanna Talk?)} - 12:59, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

June 2008

Hello. It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on others' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence User talk:21655. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. The way you worded it sounded completely biased. And sorry, but I don't wanna join WP:SOFTWARE. Sorry. 21655 ^{ταλκ/01ҁ} 14:12, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Your RFA

I'm sorry to inform you that I closed your RFA early per WP:NOTNOW. You'll find some excellent suggestions written in your RFA as to how to improve yourself as an editor. Most of the editors opposing your RFA cited a lack of experience, so over time, you may easily be able to put their concerns to rest. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. Useight (talk) 16:02, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Major edits

Just in case you didn't see the message left on my talk page by Wisdom89, edits that should be marked as minor are generally: spelling fixes, grammar fixes, adding wikilinks, adding italics, etc. Other edits, such as adding content, would be considered major. Useight (talk) 20:41, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Your RFA

I'd prefer not to re-open your RFA, as it is not going to have a chance at being successful (as of the time I closed it, it was at 18% support when about 75% is necessary). If you're looking just to get some feedback, Editor Review is a good resource. However, if you really, really want it re-opened, I'll do it. Let me know. Useight (talk) 21:58, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Your RFA

You'll find that I have re-opened it per your request. Useight (talk) 22:08, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Your RfA

You RfA has now been re-closed by me. You may like to read up on our canvassing guidelines, I believe you may find them enlightening. Naerii 22:44, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject: Software

Hi, thanks for placing the project invite on my talk page. Would you mind me asking why it is you chose to invite me, as I don't really edit many software-related articles on Wikipedia? As it happens, I'm a comp. sci. graduate, so I might be of use, but of late I've been tending more to edit video game articles here on Wikipedia (purely because they need a lot of work), so I just wondered why you asked me in particular. :) ^Synergy/_{Blades (Talk)} 02:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Your RFA

Good to see your efforts for reviving WP:SOFTWARE , but please don't place messages like this while running for RFA. This is per policy of WP:CANVAS and looked upon very badly when during the RFA. I saw you were unsuccessful in your recent RFA , but dont make this 'mistake' if you are doing a RFA again . RfA is not a political campaign. The intent is to develop consensus. Impartial evaluation of a candidate, not how popular they are, is the goal. Canvassing is often looked down upon... Read WP:GRFA also... Just my 2 cents .. Best of luck for the future...-- TinuCherian ^{(Wanna Talk?)} - 03:08, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Software‎

Hello, can you please continue editing the sandbox of Wikipedia:WikiProject Software‎ that I have started ? I am having my semester so cant be reguler these days.

I will be active again after next week. Hope you will manage until then. – Deb ‖ Poke • EditList ‖ 19:39, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Hey.. I just saw our userpages look similar :) .. Keep going ... Best of luck -- TinuCherian ^{(Wanna Talk?)} - 09:55, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:NewDLR.jpg

Replaceable fair use

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Redirects from Template Space

Sorry for bothering, but I don't think Redirects from Template Space (such as Template:Dell) to your user space are acceptable. What do you intend to do with those? You can also create templates in your user namespace, where no one will bother (they can be included as any normal templates can). Also, if you intend to use templates in your signature, just don't do it, as it's highly discuraged because of the server performance this requires. --PaterMcFly (talk) 09:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

DLR pics

Sorry, no new DLR pics. You could try asking darquati for approval to use his picture here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/davearquati/2335822766/in/pool-dlrtrains

under a license that permits commercial use. Tompagenet (talk) 17:53, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Secret Page

Sorry, your prize is late. Hope this makes up for it! Congratulations!

		The Original Barnstar
		I give you this award because of your hard work and patience! DCFan101 (talk) 21:19, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		I, DCFan101, hereby award you the Original Barnstar for doing such a hard work of finding my secret page! DCFan101 (talk) 21:19, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

		The Excellent Userpage Award
		I award you this barnstar because you have a great user page. DCFan101 (talk) 21:19, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

		All Around Amazing Barnstar
		I, Gary, hereby award you the Amazing Award for doing the secret page challenge in only two minutes. DCFan101 (talk) 21:19, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

		The Special Barnstar
		You have a very great eye on finding things. DCFan101 (talk) 21:19, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

{{windows-software-stub}} edits

Hi,

Please stop transcluding {{software-stub}} onto this template. I'm not sure what you're trying to do - if you're trying to make sure that the appropriate category is added, it is already added because all Windows stubs are automatically software stubs too. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 23:26, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:NIS.GIF)

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Myanmar Wikipedia

Hi I am just announcing that Burmese language Wikipedia is up and running here. Any contributions there are welcome. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me. Thanks.-- Hintha (talk) 11:35, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Invitation to Wikipedia meetup in London

Wikimedia UK logo

Date: 13:00 onwards, Sunday 10 August 2008

Venue: Penderel's Oak pub, Holborn WC1 map

More information: Wikipedia:Meetup/London 12

Hello,

I noticed that you have listed yourself as a Wikipedian in London, so I thought you might like to come to one of our monthly social meetups. The next one is going to be on Sunday 10 August, which might well be rather short notice, but if you can't come this time, we try to have one every second Sunday of the month.

If you haven't been before, these meetups are mainly casual social events for Wikipedia enthusiasts in which we chat about Wikipedia and any other topics we fancy. It's a great way to meet some very keen Wikipedians, but we'd also love for you to come along if you're interested in finding out more about Wikipedia, other Wikimedia projects, or other collaborative wiki projects too.

The location is a pub that is quite quiet and family friendly on a Sunday lunchtime, so hopefully younger Wikipedians will also feel welcome and safe. Alcohol consumption is certainly not required!

Although the meetups are popular, many UK-based editors still don't know about them. It would be great to welcome some fresh faces, so I hope you can come along.

Yours,

James F. (talk) 09:27, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Please forgive the slightly impersonal mass-invite!

Integrated banner for WikiProject Computer science

I have made a proposal for a integrated banner for the project here . I invite you for your valuable comments in the discussion. You are receiving this note as you are a member of the project. Thanks -- Tinu Cherian - 12:54, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Integrated banner for WikiProject Software

Greetings,I have made a proposal for a integrated banner for the project here . I invite you for your valuable comments in the discussion. You are receiving this note as you are a member of the project. Thanks -- Tinu Cherian - 11:03, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Your signature

Hi, I just saw your signature over at WP:CFD. Those oversize letters are awfully distracting and somewhat disruptive to the flow of the page, and made me wonder why the user was trying to attract attention to himself. So I would urge you to give serious consideration to using a more normal font size. Cgingold (talk) 01:37, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Central Announcement thingy

Can you customize it so that ALL messages for WP:Software appear under the announcement section as subsections (I'm assuming its bot-controlled) instead of normal sections, cause otherwise, it'll get confusing to figure out which one is software/which isn't/easier on the organization for me. ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 00:26, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Software Announcement suggestions

I don't need the whole list of archived announcements, nor do I need a list of to-dos, nor do I need the announcements to always be at the top of my talk page. Rather, there should be some bot where an announcement is made as its own new section at the bottom of the members' talk pages. Althepal (talk) 05:27, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Requesting not to add whole list of announcements on top of my talk page again. I would rather prefer to go to project page and see myself. My suggestion is that not to add this to other members' talk pages too. Let them add it if they wish so. If there are new announcements, drop a note as a new section at the bottom of my talk page. Thatz more than enough. Thanks -- Tinu Cherian - 13:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Malware

Greetings Tyw7,

My name is Sephiroth Storm, and I am attempting to revive Project Malware back from inactivity. I see that you have contributed in the past, and I was hoping you would be interested in joining us again. If you would, or you have any question, suggestions or comments, please leave a note on WP:MALW or on my talk page.

Thank You,

Sephiroth storm (talk) 18:51, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		I hereby award Tyw7 for his contributions in reviving WP:SOFTWARE WikiProject. Well done! keep doing the good work! -- *Tinu* *Cherian* - 04:25, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Oxford Wikimania 2010 and Wikimedia UK v2.0 Notice

Hi,

As a regularly contributing UK Wikipedian, we were wondering if you wanted to contribute to the Oxford bid to host the 2010 Wikimania conference. Please see here for details of how to get involved, we need all the help we can get if we are to put in a compelling bid.

We are also in the process of forming a new UK Wikimedia chapter to replace the soon to be folded old one. If you are interested in helping shape our plans, showing your support or becoming a future member or board member, please head over to the Wikimedia UK v2.0 page and let us know. We plan on holding an election in the next month to find the initial board, who will oversee the process of founding the company and accepting membership applications. They will then call an AGM to formally elect a new board who after obtaining charitable status will start the fund raising, promotion and active support for the UK Wikimedian community for which the chapter is being founded.

You may also wish to attend the next London meet-up at which both of these issues will be discussed. If you can't attend this meetup, you may want to watch Wikipedia:Meetup, for updates on future meets.

We look forward to hearing from you soon, and we send our apologies for this automated intrusion onto your talk page!

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Unblock IP

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I hope this will enhance your editing, and allow you to edit successfully and without disruption.

Request handled by: Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 20:41, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Help!

{{helpme}} How should I make a template always appear on the bottom of the talk page? -- Tyw7, Leading Innovations ‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) 10:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Im not 100% saure but I am aware of no method to acheive what you have asked except to always insert stuff above the template 203.122.240.118 (talk) 12:28, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Responese not helpful. --81.86.68.253 (talk) 13:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Do you have an example page. I am not sure what you are asking? Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 13:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I put some code that placed this template at the bottom but I am not sure if that is what you mean. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 13:22, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

This is a subpage of Tyw7's talk page, where you can send him messages and comments.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

No, that doesn't work. When something is added below it, it goes up again (what has happened here, with my comment). I think you'll just have to add the template to the bottom of the page and place a message within  saying something like "messages above this line". Or you could use something like <div style="position:absolute; right:50%; bottom:0%;">{{talkpage}}</div> which will place the template at the bottom of the page. However, even during editing it will be at the very bottom of the page. If you use <div style="position:fixed; right:50%; bottom:0%; display:block;">{{talkpage}}</div>, you can keep it always at the bottom of the viewing area, but the view will be blocked from it. If you're using these you'll have to adjust the numbers to suit the position. Cheers. Chamal ^Talk ± 14:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I want to plate {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Software/Announcement-u}} at the very bottom. --81.86.68.253 (talk) 14:48, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I will get back with an answer... Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 14:53, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

You do not need to keep adding the {{helpme}} tag. We all know your question. It constantly alerts us and is annoying. Please keep it off while we look for an answer. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 15:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Non of us that work the help desk seem to think it is possible to do what you want. As a last resort try asking over at WP:VPT. If there is a way they will know. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 15:08, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Image without license

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It was just a simple gradient with the color of the software project background thingy and white. I'm trying to make a .svg version, but I'm not good at illustrator (prefer photoshop/gimp), and it looks awkward atm, since I'm probably not doing things correctly. Here is the gradient: [1]

Here is what I have done of the svg version (which is messed up since the text is jagged instead of smooth like it should be, someone else who's familiar with .svg needs to make the .svg version instead) [2]

~~Do you want me to replace the current logo with the alternative one (I clone stamped the colon out since I didn't save the psd file)?~~ Done, assuming its okay.ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 18:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Your RfA

Hello there, I have closed your recent RfA as unsuccessful per policy guidelines as enacted in WP:SNOW; your request, unfortunately, had little to no chance of passing at this time. Please review the remarks of those who participated in the discussion, keep up your contributions, and consider re-trying in several months. Best of luck. —Anonymous Dissident^Talk 12:15, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

You're not going to have a realistic chance at RFA until you have at least 2800 edits and have worked in admin areas. — Jojo • Talk • 18:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Graphics lab

Hello, Tyw7. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

--pbroks13^talk? 19:45, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

WP:CSEC

Tyw7! Thank You for your assistance with WikiProject Malware! To better serve Wikipedia, this project has been closed. We thank you for all of your hard work, and we would like to invite you to our new Wikiproject at WikiProject Computer Security. We hope to see you soon! Sephiroth storm (talk) 08:34, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:LiveUpdate.JPG)

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Speedy deletion of File:LiveUpdate.JPG

A tag has been placed on File:LiveUpdate.JPG requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section I5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an image which is not under a free license or in the public domain and it has not been used in any article for more than seven days.

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Speedy deletion of Template:Talkback WikiProject

I have tagged this template under criterion G2 as it appears that you were using it as a sandbox for the talkback template. If this is incorrect feel free to revert this, though I do think that T3 would still apply. --Nn123645 (talk) 16:34, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Talkback Template

original messages copied for clarity

From Template talk:Talkback Wikiproject I have tagged this article for speedy deletion under criterion G2 as it appears it was used a sandbox for the Talkback template, though T3 does also apply. --Nn123645 (talk) 16:31, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Because the Talkback template doesn't work on WikiProjects. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 17:30, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

This was fixed today after it was changed in this edit. —Nn123645 (talk) 20:10, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

So you can use it for ALL talk pages, including WikiProjects and Articles? --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 06:21, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

From User talk:nn123645 The talkback template doesn't work for templates so you have to create a template of your own user:nn123645/talkback fork. Just post your reply on my user talk page. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 06:25, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

At the time I created that page the talkback template was broken. For about a one week period (from March 13th to March 19th) the template did not support any namespace other than Talk and User talk, this was sense resotred to its original functionality. As far as using the templates for Articles and Wikiprojects, that is namespace dependent. Since the template currently supports the Article Talk, Wikipedia, and Wikipedia talk namespaces again the template at Template:Wikiproject Talkback is an unneeded fork of the talkback template. Since this discussion is already fragmented enough please place all future replies on this page. --Nn123645 (talk) 16:38, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

So how do you format the template for use for other pages OTHER than user talk pages. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 18:51, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

~~Currently you can use the tp parameter to link to a non-user talk page. You must include the namespace in the link. An example would be {{talkback|Wikipedia:VP|tp=1}}.~~ —Nn123645 (talk) 20:09, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

The code proposed on the talkpage went live. Now you do not need the tp parameter and can just enter in the link if it is to a non user talk page. —Nn123645 (talk) 20:23, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Re:monobook.js

There seems to be nothing wrong. However, you should change importScript("User:Lupin/recent2.js"); to importScript('User:Lupin/recent2.js'); just to be safe. Also remember to purge the page after you save. -down load | sign! 00:45, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

download's special barnstar

		down load's special barnstar
		Thanks for signing my guestbook! Reading small print carefully, in my opinion, is a very important skill. -down load \| sign! 03:06, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Norton LiveUpdate Deletion

I have proposed the article for deletion. It boils down to a sentence or two, and can be merged in the Norton-related articles as a footnote. TechOutsider (talk) 14:23, 22 March 2009 (UTC)TechOutsider

Norton Live Update

please don't remove AfD templates from active discussions. The proper procedure is to comment at the discussion. Any questions, please let me know. Thanks StarM 00:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

NIS needs work?

I see you tagged NIS with the rewrite tag. Why so? I looked on the discussion page for suggestions, however none were left. TechOutsider (talk) 23:23, 25 March 2009 (UTC)TechOutsider

It just looks bad. Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>>22:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.98.195.128 (talk)

Do you mean how it looks itself; its layout on the computer screen? A formatting problem? Or lack of information? Can you review it again; I have edited it a little TechOutsider (talk) 22:09, 26 March 2009 (UTC)TechOutsider

The sentences are not that smooth. There needs to be transitions and stuff. Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>>23:54, 26 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.98.195.128 (talk)

You're in 10th grade, right? You know what's funny? The earlier versions have better, longer, and smoother paragraphs. Seems like each progressive version is more marketing and less facts. Can you point out anything specific in the WP:MOS? TechOutsider (talk) 02:33, 27 March 2009 (UTC)TechOutsdier

Thanks ...

		The Minor Barnstar
		Hey Tyw7. Thanks for your contribution to Norton Internet Security. Couldn't have done it without your contributions. TechOutsider (talk) 17:39, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Norton 360

First, let's start with a brief history of Norton 360. None of that technical stuff; N360 is more consumer oriented. Look in the Google News Archives for Norton 360 before it was released. I want to set the mindset of what Symantec had in mind for Norton 360: a set it and forget it program. TechOutsider (talk) 18:51, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Planetdead.jpg)

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GA reviews

Hi there. I think the GA review pages should be created by the reviewer, when one comes along. Otherwise the template is showing the wrong information. Shall I delete the two you created this morning? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:42, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

GAN

FYI: I reviewed Norton 360 earlier today. decltype (talk) 15:25, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello! Some Norton-related information

More Windows 7 compatibility information has come to light concerning Norton products. Need to incorporate into article. The links are here; Norton Forums and Official Website

Hope your doing well. TechOutsider (talk) 21:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

How about you do it. I am kinda busy with assignments. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 15:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Hope you'll be free over the summer. What assignments? You mean like schoolwork? TechOutsider (talk) 22:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I have an online school 24/7 366 days a year. My school is the Mesa Distance Learning Program. I am always busy. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 14:35, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Interesting. No wonder you like it automated; your talk page is automatically archived. TechOutsider (talk) 18:51, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Wipedia talk:Requests for adminship/Tyw7 4

Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and the page that you created has been or soon will be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Ironholds (talk) 12:01, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Go ahead delete it! --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 12:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

You don't seem to be getting it - you spelt "wikipedia" wrong. Because of that, it posted in the mainspace as an article. That is why I'm tagging it as a test page, not because I didn't think you intended to make it. Ironholds (talk) 12:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I didn't mispell it. I think there is something wrong with the RFA template. In fact, I corrected the errors! --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 12:32, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

The template is fine. You spelt it "Wipedia". Ironholds (talk) 12:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

No I didn't. I even didn't type any Wikipedia or anything. I just typed my user name and the comments. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 12:35, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

This isn't the RfA being tagged for deletion, this is the RfA talkpage (which doesn't need to be automatically created anyway) which you created with this edit. In regards to the "fixed IP" I meant that unless an IP has belonged to you for ages and ages (and you can prove it) we can't prove that those edits were yours. Ironholds (talk) 12:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

How can I prove it? --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 12:38, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Outdent: prove what, sorry? Ironholds (talk) 12:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Prove I am the only editor in the anon IP. That is because I mainly use anon IP without logging in. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 12:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't know - you could prove that you're the IP now, but not that you always have been. I'd advise always logging in in the future. At the end of the day it doesn't matter, there are so many other major concerns (the GA thing sticks in my throat particularly) that having 20,000 edits is unlikely to help. Ironholds (talk) 12:43, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

How can I prove I am the IP now. And what's wrong with the GA thing? --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 12:46, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Outdent so as not to be 30 characters to the right - post from the IP, of course. You need, at some point, to publicly declare these guys are also you, otherwise you might get WP:SOCK accusations. The problem with the GA thing is that you claimed to have got articles to GA, when you didn't. You said Norton 360 was the one you'd worked most on, and I counted four very, very minor edits that just played with wording. Ironholds (talk) 12:52, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

How's that!--90.215.103.6 (talk) 12:55, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Did you count anon IP edits? What is the def of minor edits? --90.215.103.6 (talk) 12:55, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Does restarting the router change the IP address? --90.215.103.6 (talk) 12:56, 28 May 2009 (UTC) --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 12:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Usually, depends on the ISP. As said, I would advise you to edit through your account. Factoring in IP edits I find the same thing - very few edits, and very minor ones in nature. Ironholds (talk) 12:59, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Read WP:CANVASS. Informing a select group (in this case, people who've worked with you) that you're running for adminship is a big no-no. Ironholds (talk) 13:25, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
Read WP:CANVASS and look for "acceptable" ways. As a general rule, however, you're not meant to run around telling people - there is a group of regulars around RfA who will normally know when something is occurring. Ironholds (talk) 13:30, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

RFA further advice

(This is going to come off gruffer than it's intended to because I'm not awake yet.) Aha. I see I've given you a notnow template before. You did not heed that advice. The biggest overall problem is your lack of activity. You need 100's of edits a month to gain the needed experience, stay current with current policy and to build the 'pedia. You need to review thousands of articles to become proficient at recognizing when to tag for deletion. The "Wikibreak" notice on your talk page is a little off-putting for someone at RFA. That needs to not be there the next time. Don't know why the US flag appears in the Navigation column of the User page, but it is not helpful there. The whole prior username/anon contribs comes out a bit strained. Stick to one user name and build another 3,000+ edits with it. I am not one for a hefty article building requirement, but others are and you need more of that. From my standpoint, you need much more experience in admin related areas. I go for the traditional article patrolling with an eye to improving articles and reverting unconstructive edits. Many new articles need improvement in some way. Those that meet CSD criteria need to be tagged as such. Unconstructive edits need to be reverted, the editor notified of the reversion, and if the problem persists past a full set of warnings, the editor needs to be reported at WP:AIV. Cheers, Dloh cierekim 13:37, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I just closed your RfA early, as WP:SNOW. Please review the helpful advice above from Dlohcierekim. I hope you continue to work hard on the Wikipedia project. If you have any questions or concerns, please contact me on my talk page or via email. Sincerely, Kingturtle (talk) 15:12, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Featured article nominations

I have removed your featured article candidate nominations (Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Norton 360/archive1 and Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Norton Internet Security/archive1) at this time. Per the featured article instructions, principal contributors must be consulted before a nomination, and nominations should be made one at a time. I appreciate that you are acting in good faith, but it is best if featured articles are nominated by people who have worked closely on them. In this way, they can give reasoned replies to reviewers and be familiar enough with the sources to act on suggested improvements. If I have missed some communication indicating that the significant contributors to the articles do indeed support the nominations, please feel free to resubmit one of the articles to FAC. Maralia (talk) 15:31, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I am one of the principle contributors of Norton 360. (Count the anon IP. I have listed the anon IP I use on my contributions page.) Although I didn't have many edits on the article, I follow the article closely. I can answer any question raised. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 16:05, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Your /Contributions page is...baffling. While it is certainly helpful and honest to indicate that you have edited as an anon, no one should redirect IP user/talk pages to their account. IP addresses (even most so-called static ones) are reassigned all the time, and it's certainly within the realm of possibility that someone other than you may later use the six IPs you redirected to your pages.

The combination of all of those IP's edits to Norton 360, plus yours, still appears to be significantly less than the contributions of User:TechOutsider to it. It would be reasonable to consult him, and courteous to list him as a co-nominator if he agrees that the article is ready for FAC. In any case, if you decide to relist it, please address those concerns in your nomination statement. Thank you. Maralia (talk) 18:18, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Admin coaching

I really do not have time to coach. I am already coaching several users, and I haven't had very much time for Wikipedia lately. Although I do not have time to coach you, I will give a few suggestions:

Look at WP:AFD, WP:NPP, and WP:CVU and get involved.
Take a look at WP:ARL
Read WP:ADMIN
Read some of the core policies
Keep editing articles.

Sorry I don't have the time. Best of luck, Malinaccier (talk) 16:24, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Admin coaching

Sorry, but I'm at full capacity right now. bibliomaniac 1 5 16:41, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Admin Coaching Tyw7

Hi. Apologies, but at the moment I already have three other admin coachees, so I'm afraid it would be best to contact another administrator. Nonetheless I'd be happy to answer any specific questions you have. Regards, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 18:19, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Your biggest weakness, in my opinion, is that you seem fairly desperate to get adminship. Wait until you have several thousand edits and perhaps 6 more months of experience before even thinking about running again, then you can re-evaluate the situation. Trust me, the tools are really pretty boring. :) Cheers, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 16:00, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Admin coaching

Yes, I would be happy to be your admin coach. Occasionally I may have to take some wiki-breaks for a few days because of some trips that I need to go on, but I will be on Wikipedia for most of this summer. You seem to be a great editor, and as the people in your last RFA said, which I just looked at, you need to work on things like nominating candidates for speedy deletion, and patrolling Recent Changes. When I became an admin 5 years ago, I managed to get confirmed without previously doing much of these activities, but that was a different and less sensative period in Wikipedia's history. After I became an admin, I started these activities and began to enjoy them. Let me know if you have any questions, and I look forward to looking at more of your contributions later. Academic Challenger (talk) 01:28, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

RE: Admin coaching

I would be glad to be your coach. I notice that Academic Challenger already posted above, and Richardshusr has already created your admin coaching page; we can co-coach you if you wish. It seems that your RFA's have failed because of lack of experience. A few years ago, your RFA's might have passed, but since then the standards have been raised. I can help you get acquainted with admin-related areas; it is up to you to get enough edits by becoming more active. I do request that you do not nominate yourself for adminship or accept anyone's nomination but ours; one of us will nominate you when you are ready. I will post updates User:Tyw7/Admin coaching periodically, so be sure to watchlist it. Reply to any message posted on there, so we know you read it. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:50, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I have edit the coaching page. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 00:13, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Best of regards, Tyw7! Hope your admin coaching goes well, and I have confidence you will be a great admin in the near future! It'll be great having an admin as a close friend. TechOutsider (talk) 03:11, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank You! --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 21:06, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Thank you! Sephiroth storm (talk) 23:58, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Rouge Admins

Hi Tyw7, I have seen you making comments about the group of "Rouge Admins" and seemingly voicing the opinion that they are at the root of vandalism. I think you may be seriously misunderstanding the nature of the title "rouge admin" and I think this may be a cntributing factor to your lack of succes at your RfA's. Rouge Admin is not an actual group of administrators who enjoy vandalising wikipedia and doing all of the other godless acts they say they subscribe to on their page - rather the page and the description of rouge admins should be understood as sarcasm. They are a group of administrators who have been accused of all of these actions by editors whom they have annoyed with their administrator actions - for example a blocked user may accused the blicking admin of being a "rouge admin" (notice that rouge is a deliberate misspelling of rogue mocking how less than fully literate vandals often write the word) or "a fascist" or part of a "Cabal" dedicated to hide the turth about x "fact" that the blocked user was trying to include in wikipedia. The rouge admins are then simply administrators who are not scared of engaging in difficult administrator actions against problem users - even a the risk of being called the worst kinds of names and being attributed the worst kinds of motives. They call them self "rouge admins" to show as a badge of honour that they deal with problem users and have received such kinds of responses by problem users. If you get to be an admin you might well experience being called a "rouge admin" when you use the admin tools against such users or have to moderate disputes in delicate areas of wikipedia, are you ready for that? ·Maunus·ƛ· 23:08, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

NIS as a FA

Hi Tyw7. I currently have a netbook, and am unable to correct the mistakes found in the FA review. Its small keyboard and screen make editing Wikipedia tedious. Could you fix the mistakes found? Another fail would be a demerit to the article. Or, you could withdraw the article if you so wish, correcting the mistakes without a timeframe. Thank you. TechOutsider (talk) 00:03, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Compactabality issues

{{help}} The above buttons (bold redirect, signature, etc), does not seem to be working in my version of Internet Explorer 8.
Thanks,
Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 21:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Some wikimarkup doesn't render properly in IE. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 21:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

But it DOES work when I log out. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.217.11.1 (talk) 21:36, 22 June 2009 (UTC) <--I made this comment without logging in. Honestly! --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 21:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Look in the help desk for more info regarding the topic (I asked the same question there) --90.217.11.1 (talk) 22:29, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Signature

Your sig is quite long actually, and fills the edit screen with at least 3 lines of code. You may want to consider shortening it. -- œ ^™ 01:06, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, please change your signature, as it goes against Wikipedia guidelines. See WP:Signatures#Length. It says, "Keep signatures short, both in display and markup" because "signatures that take up more than two or three lines in the edit window clutter the page and make it harder to distinguish posts from signatures". On this normal-sized laptop, your signature takes up 4 lines in the edit window. hmwith τ 14:48, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Spacing

{{Help}} How to insert a space between Tyw7 and (talk,etc) in my signature? --Tyw7 (Talk ● Contributions) 21:41, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

It appears as though there is one - the font you're using is running it over. Try adding into your sign where you have the two spaces now. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 21:44, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. --Tyw7 (Talk ● Contributions) 21:46, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Signature

{{help}} Is my new signature short enough? --Tyw7 (Talk ● Contributions) 21:49, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

It's shorter than mine. I don't care. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 22:19, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Internet Explorer 8

{{Help}} The above buttons {cite, bold, signature, etc) does not seem to be working in my version of IE8. Please help, Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 21:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

They work fine for me in Firefox, Chrome and IE 8.0. Is there any chance you disabled javascript? The buttons require it to be enabled. Excirial^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 21:27, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

The buttons work when I log out. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 21:49, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

You have a lot of entries in User:Tyw7/monobook.js. Try removing them and bypass your cache. If that fixes the problem, then add them back a bit at a time until it breaks ago. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 22:07, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Which section is causing the problem? --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 22:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Even clearing the page does not work. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 22:13, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

There is a yellow error on page error on the botton left of the bar. This is what it says: Webpage error details

User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) ; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729) Timestamp: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 22:14:34 UTC

Message: Expected identifier, string or number Line: 4 Char: 1 Code: 0 URI: http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Gadget-Friendly.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript?227

Message: Object doesn't support this property or method Line: 1697 Char: 2 Code: 0 URI: http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User:AzaToth/morebits.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript

Message: 'Namespace' is undefined Line: 30 Char: 1 Code: 0 URI: http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User:AzaToth/twinkleimagetraverse.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript

Message: Expected identifier, string or number Line: 60 Char: 2 Code: 0 URI: http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User:AzaToth/twinklebatchundelete.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript

Message: Object doesn't support this property or method Line: 598 Char: 3 Code: 0 URI: http://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User:AzaToth/twinklefluff.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript

Message: Unexpected call to method or property access. Line: 83 Char: 3 Code: 0 URI: http://wiki.riteme.site/skins-1.5/common/edit.js?227

--Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 22:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Hm. It looks like your JavaScript is desperately in need of fixing. Are the edit toolbar buttons appearing at all, or are they simply unclickable? I'm worried that there might be some underlying problem, and per the above, I haven't a clue why your browser is unable to parse something as simply as MediaWiki's edit.js. Might I suggest sticking with another browser? That should fix the problem, at least temporarily. The Earwig (Talk | Contribs) 00:19, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, may I ask that you tone down your signature a tad? It appears very large on screen and takes up at least three lines in the edit window. Thanks! TN X Man 02:04, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, they appear, but is unclickable. However, when I logout, I can use those buttons. I have blanked the my javascript js but that doesn't work. --Tyw7‍ ‍‍ (Talk ● Contributions) Leading Innovations >>> 03:33, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

How to fix this "java script" error. --Tyw7 (Talk ● Contributions) 21:49, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Try asking at the Technical Village Pump. Alternatively, you could just download Firefox. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 22:22, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Tyw7. You have new messages at TechOutsider's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Hello, Tyw7. You have new messages at Talk:Norton 360.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Your signature

Hi there. Would you please remove any "size=X" tags from your signature that make it larger than the surrounding text flow per Wikipedia:SIG#Appearance and color? Regards So Why 09:37, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Other website appearance

{{Template:help}} Why is my talk page and other user pages appearing on other websites:

Please reply asap. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 10:28, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

They seem to have mirrored your page. You might want to add {{noindex}} to your user talk page. --Closedmouth (talk) 10:31, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

What does the template do? --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 10:32, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

The template tells other websites not to mirror your user, talk, and other pages of yours. Since content on Wikipedia is licensed for free use (that includes your user and talk pages), other sites may save a version (for reasons unknown to me). I see Wapedia has saved a version of your user and talk pages; that is a mobile version of wikipedia, designed for cell phones and slow internet connections. Next time you edit wikipedia, note this disclaimer, "You irrevocably agree to release your contributions under the Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License 3.0 and the GFDL." Great talking to you again TechOutsider (talk) 12:34, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

The Momblog website poses the most concern because it seems to have been POSTED by a user not by an automatic mirror. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 12:03, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Hope you don't me cancelling the {{help}} tag above, as you are now being looked after :) — Deon555^talk_{I'm BACK!} 13:26, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, content is licensed for free use ... it may be disconcerting however the poster has done nothing illegal. I think the best thing to do is to tell the poster not to post your talk page on the Mom Blog Network. Create an account, tell him, and maybe he'll stop. It doesn't seem to be any personal information. TechOutsider (talk) 02:46, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

How to make my talk page to be the top search result when I search for User talk tyw7 or talk tyw7? --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 13:24, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia has no control over the search rankings of search engines such as Google, etc. You might get some information from the article Web crawler. Chzz ► 13:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC

You need popularity. Look up your user page in Google, and click rough it a couple thousand times lol! Or you can make a script to do so. ThaMoonwalker (talk) 00:06, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Children of Earth

Don't you find that separate sections for the individual days clutter the navbox?~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 22:27, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

I am excited about tomorrow! What exactly was Ianto's plot though? He got paranoid for a bit, contacted his sister, took the car, went to London and eventually found Jack? I don't know how to cover it and make it sound at all important.~Zythe^{Talk to me!} 23:46, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Question; reply

I assume you mean the 456 ambassador when you say "the beast", anyway Jack and Ianto shot at the tank, which appeared to be bulletproof, so it probably was not hurt. Whoniverse93 talk? 00:40, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't know what the 456 could be. To begin with I thought The Beast from The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit or something like him. Then I thought it could be the Macra from the old series, which also appear in Gridlock, but perhaps it's a completely new monster. The 456 are only at Britain, not any other country because they struck deal with our government so that's why they came here I guess. I hope The Doctor appears in tonight's final episode, it would be great! Whoniverse93 talk? 09:35, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Jack can't die. He did die because he breathed in the virus but he just comes back. No they are not gay. Jack is...well I think he would have sex with any living thing, so he's bisexual. Ianto claims to be straight he just loves Jack and no other men, so he is probably bisexual as well he just hasn't admitted it. Whoniverse93 talk? 14:05, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

July 2009

Welcome to Wikipedia! I am glad to see you are interested in discussing a topic. However, as a general rule, talk pages are for discussion related to improving the article, not general discussion about the topic. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. Thank you. Elen of the Roads (talk) 11:52, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Admin coaching

Sorry I haven't contacted you in a long time. I was actually a little busy myself. So how is it going? If you have anything new to add, anything you learned, or any questions you would like to ask me, feel free to make a comment at User:Tyw7/Admin coaching#July 2009. For the questions you asked on the page, XFD stands for anything for deletion, such as WP:AFD, WP:RFD, WP:TFD, etc. Meta-philosophies are basically: are you a inclusionist or an deletionist? That is, do you believe that Wikipedia should strive to include everything, or be more limited like a traditional encyclopedia? It's OK to be neither. For instance, I would not place myself in either category. There are also different levels of each: you might be a strong inclusionist, weak inclusionist, weak deletionist, or strong deletionist. With that said, you do need a lot more experience in deletion. Go to today's AfD log and participate in some discussions now! :-)

Also, it would be convenient if you could install Qui. Qui allows users to update their status and check whether somebody else is online. Paste this in your monobook.js:

importScript('User:TheDJ/qui.js');

Cheers, King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 18:32, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Notice

{{help}} How do I make the notice above the edit box like when I was editing SoWhy user talk page. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 16:43, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

You could just look at the code by editing the page, see how it was done. The very first bit is {{User:SoWhy/Header}}, which transludes that subpage. Looking at User:SoWhy/Header, it has this code;

<div style="font-variant:small-caps; font-size: 16px; text-align: center; margin-bottom: 5px; font-weight: bold;">
[[User:SoWhy/Userpage|<span style="color: #AC0000">About me</span>]]{{bullet}} 
[[User talk:SoWhy|<span style="color: #35628F">Talk</span>]]{{bullet}} 
[[Special:Contributions/SoWhy|<span style="color: #AC0000">Contributions</span>]]{{bullet}} 
[[User:SoWhy/Barnstars|<span style="color: #35628F">Barnstars</span>]]{{bullet}} 
[[User:SoWhy/My mistakes|<span style="color: #AC0000">Mistakes</span>]]{{bullet}} 
[[User:SoWhy/Essays|<span style="color: #35628F">Essays</span>]]
</div>

So, you could change the references there to your own username, and then put that at the top of your page to get a similar banner.

I hope that this helps; for more help, you can either;

Leave a message on my own talk page; OR
Use a {{helpme}} - please create a new section at the end of your own talk page, put {{helpme}}, and ask your question - remember to 'sign' your name by putting ~~~~ at the end; OR
Talk to us live, with this or this.

Best wishes, Chzz ► 16:48, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Ah. After further reading your request, I see that you are talking about the edit notice; sorry, I didn't fully understand. So, to get one of those, See that link, which should explain it all. Cheers, Chzz ► 16:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Your signature (again)

Hi there. I had previously notified you (on June 30, 2009) that your signature violates our signature guideline, specifically Wikipedia:Signatures#Appearance and color. I will assume that you merely overlooked it since you configured the bot to archive posts far too quickly (you should change that too, 2 days is too fast if you will not read your talk page every day). Anyway, would you please remove the size=5 part in your signature? Regards So Why 13:35, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

How to make my signature legible because they seem too small if I remove the size=5. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 14:16, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

How about not using Times New Roman? Times is a font which is smaller than others but you are not allowed to use any HTML that changes the size of the signature so when using it, you will have to accept the small size. You could also try some other variations, like other fonts (like Verdana (Tyw7), Georgia (Tyw7), Arial (Tyw7)) or style (bolden (Tyw7, italics (Tyw7). Regards So Why 15:18, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

How this? --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 16:36, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I like the one you adopted now, the mix of Georgia and italics, it's decent looking, not too big and still not one everyone has. :-) Thanks for changing it. Regards So Why 20:53, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Norton Safe Web

Interested in collaborating in the aforementioned article? TechOutsider (talk) 01:03, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Sure why not! What is the goal of that you want this article to be? Good Article? By the way, have you achieved to make the article [[Norton Internet Security as a feature article? --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 12:15, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Never mind about Safe Web. I have fixed the references and added an "Reception" section. Concerning NIS ... why don't we correct the problems mentioned on the featured article review? It's mainly about the references; some are unreliable, and some are deadlinks, and some are not formatted correctly. Thank you. Anyways, your new signature is great!TechOutsider (talk) 09:41, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

ACC interface

Can you please confirm that you requested access to the internal account creation interface? Alexfusco⁵ 17:55, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

How to do that? --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 21:14, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I do. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 22:57, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

By saying you did like you just did, Thank you. Alexfusco⁵ 01:57, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

ACC interface usage problems

You seem to be having some problems with the acc interface and you're actually reopened old requests that have already been closed. Before doing anything else please read the guide in it's entirety. Many thanks. ZX81 ^talk 03:09, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

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WikiPjt Software IRC Channel

Sure, why not? It would encourage collaboration between users. My sole concern is if there are enough active users. Lots of people are listed as "active", however the project page has not been edited for quite some time. TechOutsider (talk) 10:28, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Symantec Antivirus

Hi, I noticed something glaring while cleaning up the Norton articles. Symantec Antivirus redirects to Norton AntiVirus, however it doesn't mention SAV at all. If you could track down some reliable, secondary sources not from Symantec, could you ... say post it on my talk page? We need to fix this error. TechOutsider ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:41, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

IRC channel : Wikiproject Software

Wow ! this is supercool dude! congratz & thanks on b-haf of all the members.

bytheway, if u r not too busy these dayz, can u take the LEADER's post ? I'm kinda finding it very hard to give time to contrib.

All the Best ! – Deb ‖ Poke • EditList ‖ 20:15, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Software IRC

For better and faster discussion between WikiProject Software Members a IRC channel has been created: irc://irc.freenode.net/##WikiProject-Software. For instant access click here: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=##WikiProject-Software. Please use your Wikipedia nickname. You are receiving this message because you are a member of WikiProject Software or one of its departments. - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 09:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

As you see above, your request should now be done. Cheers - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 09:59, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

ACC tool

Hi! If you want to regain access to the tool, here are a few quick questions, that I'd like you to answer please.

What would you do with the SUL link *utility?
1. Check if there are similiarly named usernames already registered.
What would you do if the request had a red number next to the email address (give as many circumstances as you can think of)
1. Ignore it and let other users deal with it.
An account request of "HighFlyMarketing" is flagged as needing an account creator: upon investigation, a similarly named account "High_Fly_Marketing" has no edits, no log entries, and was created 2-ish years ago. What would you do?

If the account the request is too similar to is inactive, defer the request by clicking "Defer to account creators" (these users can just go ahead and create the account). However I think that username is not a valid username since it is misleading.

What would you do with a request for the name "Cooladmin"?

Ask about it in the acc help channel. I would say deny it because I think such username is not alloyed

What would you do with a request for the name "J.De1anoy", similarly named account "J.delanoy"?

If the account the request is too similar to is inactive, defer the request by clicking "Defer to account creators" (these users can just go ahead and create the account). If the account the request is too similar to is active, then click "Similar" to close the request as too similar to an active account

What defines an old unused account (with respect to similarly named accounts)?
1. An unused account is an account that is not active for a long period of time:Created over one year ago
  1. Account has fewer than fifteen (+ 1 or 2) edits
  2. Last edit was made over one year ago (if edited at all)
  3. Last entry in logs occurred over one year ago
2. A similiar named account may or may not be inactive but it's name is very similar to the one requested like stwalker and stwakerster.
An IP address has posted 35 requests for different names, over a large time period. what would you do?
1. Defer it to another user.
A request for "[stevie]" has been made. What would you do?

Deny it because it will cause formatting problems

What password should you fill in at the creation password prompt?

Nothing

When should you override a rservation made by someone else?
1. You should never override a reservation made by someone else. If you have any doubts about the request politely leave a message on the reservers talk page or ask about it on the acc irc channel.
What does the "Reset request" button do, and when should you use it?
1. Undo the last request. You should use it when you doubts the last acc accountee actions.
You encounter a request that you are unsure what to do with. What should you do?

Ask about it in the #wikipedia-en-accounts irc channel.

Let me know when you've completed the questions. Thanks, Stwalkerster [ talk ] 19:55, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for answering the questions.

No. That's not what that tool does. see WP:SUL
[not answered]
It's not misleading, but it is promotional. close enough.
This one is misleading.
Given I linked to the similarly named account, one look at the link should be enough to tell you enough. it's something about the phrase "This user is an administrator on the English Wikipedia" that tells me this user has more than 15 edits.
Pretty much, nice C+P there.
[not answered]
Yes and no. it won't cause formatting problems, but the software will prevent you from creating it.
Spot on. Actually, this doesn't matter - as long as you then click the correct button, it ignores the content of those boxes. It's just quicker and less effort to leave them blank.
Spot on.
"Undo the last request"? So it'll delete the last request that anyone has made from the database? Besides, the other part of the answer is also wrong.
Yep, or leave it for someone else.

Your answers still don't convince me that you know what you are doing. It also concerns me that you have been asking people for the answers, rather than getting the answers from the guide and other linked documentation from there. Most of the questions only require knowledge of the guide, and common sense. The one about User:J.delanoy kinda required you to know he is an admin, but given that I linked to his userpage, this should have been obvious. Some of the answers are wrong, but close enough that they'll pass. However, given they are "off target", but within the "boundary", it concerns me about the "accuracy of the throw" (to use a sports metaphor), and how many will fall outside the boundary. There is no way of undoing an action on the tool, every time you click one of the "close" links, an email is sent to the user. If you close a request one way, then decide that you should have closed it another way, and close it that way, the user will have received two contradicting messages from the tool. For a newb, this is confusing at best, and at worst will turn the user away from Wikipedia, which I find unacceptable.

I'm quite worried that should you regain access to the tool, that you will make those mistakes, because I still don't feel you know what you are doing. Sorry. Stwalkerster [ talk ] 19:28, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Spotlight needs suggestions

Spotlight needs your help!

We've had great success with Marco Polo (now a Good Article), and Marco Polo sheep (currently on the main page in the "Did You Know...").

We're now working on Dry ice.

We'll be choosing the next article on Sunday 26th July, and the following one on Friday 31st July (which is when we'll finish Dry ice).

Therefore, we need suggestions, here - and even more importantly, we need comment on the suggestions of others.

Hope to see you in the channel again soon, cheers, Chzz ► 18:26, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Norton Internet Security - Progress

Hi Tyw7. I haven't been working in the mainspace as much as I used to recently. Wondering why? See here. I've been working on expanding Norton Internet Security. If you want to help, great! I really could use some insight on what I'm drafting. In no way is the stuff I have wrote GA-class, so don't put it in the article. TechOutsider ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:33, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

~~I've decided to add the stuff I wrote anyways to the article to see how it would take.~~ TechOutsider ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:27, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

IRC

Hey, could you teach me the basics to IRC? I've got it set up and all, but I have two issues: 1) After I joined the channel, I waited for about a minute, and no activity occurred. Is that supposed to happen; that is, is activity this low? If not, about every how many seconds should I see a new chat message? 2) How do I get a hostmask? The meta page says they're not available. Also, is there anything else I should know? Thanks. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:47, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, I got my problem fixed. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:20, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Fluttering US flag.gif

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Fluttering US flag.gif, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. --\ Backslash Forwardslash / {talk} 10:08, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I have found the image here. Please be more vigilant with your image uploads. Files that you have not created yet cannot find on the web are still covered by copyright, and go against Wikipedia policies. \ Backslash Forwardslash / {talk} 10:18, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK

Please read Wikipedia:Did_you_know#DYK_rules. DYK is only for new or significantly expanded articles, which means existing articles, no matter how interesting, cannot be accepted. \ Backslash Forwardslash / {talk} 11:30, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

m.wikipedia.org

{{help}} Why can't I edit from the mobile website? --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 13:21, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

You just can't. Nobody can. --Closedmouth (talk) 13:28, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

How to suggest the feature of making mobile page edits? --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 13:29, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Don't. Please. If you want to edit Wikipedia from a mobile connection, disable the mobile site (there's an option to at the bottom). The Earwig (Talk | Contribs) 13:48, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

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WuhWuzDat 16:56, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Your Invite templates

...are unwanted on my talk page, any further instances on my talk page will result in your being reported for disruptive editing. WuhWuzDat 16:56, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Peer review limits

The guidelines for Wikipedia:Peer review ask that editors nominate no more than one article per day (and four total at any one time). While the rules say that one of the requests can be removed, I will let it slide since this is the first time. Take care, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:45, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Just to let you know, assessment (class and importance for an article) is generally done by Wikiprojects and not by peer reviewers. If the main reason you are listing articles at PR is to change their assessments, please ask at the Wikiproject talk page instead. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:03, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I reviewed two of your PR requests. Wikipedia:WikiProject Trains is an active project - I would ask there about the assessments, but what I saw in the peer reviews looked consistent. It is hard to get something with few references much above Start or C class. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 11:11, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

PS SOrry but I do not live in the UK. Have you looked on Flickr for free images? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 11:18, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

The Metropolitan - Issue 16

The Metropolitan

The WikiProject London Transport Newsletter
Issue 16 - August 2009)

July | September

London Transport News

July

48 hour strike disrupts main line services from Liverpool Street

The Victoria Underground station upgrade has received planning approval from the Secretary of State for Transport

East Thames Buses to be sold by TfL to London General Transport Services Limited

The First 2009 Stock train starts carrying passengers in service on the Victoria line

Visitors to Piccadilly Circus will be able to see Tube service updates on the Coca-Cola advertising board

Boris Johnson unveils the first of the new London Overground trains

June 2009

Wrexham & Shropshire has become the first train operating company to sell Oyster cards to passengers before they arrive in London.

Art on the on the Underground, London Underground's art programme, has won an international award for culture on public transport systems.

Transport for London have announced a five month improvement scheme for the A316 Richmond Circus road junction, with increased accessability for cyclists and pedestrians.

The Mayor of London, Boris Johnson has tested London's first air-conditioned tube train.

New superhero artwork has been added to Charing Cross and Embankment tube stations.

Due to the ongoing tube strike, and the lack of Chiltern services, over 70,000 football supporters were without transport after the World Cup qualifier at Wembley Stadium.

Union RMT announced a 48 hour tube strike, which began at 18:59 on Tuesday 9 June.

The new Three Mills Lock has opened in Bromley-by-Bow.

Transport for London has announced that six bus manufacturers have qualified to bid for the contract to design and build the new bus for London.

To aid overseas travellers, London Underground has upgraded all touch screen ticket machines to 17 different languages.

Member News

Welcome to new member Tyw7 who joined on 29 July.

We currently have 72 members signed-up.

This WikiProject would not be where it is today without each and every one of its members! Thank you to all!

General

After the surge of new articles in June, July has been a quieter month with just one new featured article, Chelsea Bridge (well done again Iridescent), and one new good article, Charles Pearson. We therefore, currently have 10 Featured Articles, 1 Featured List and 10 Good Articles in the Project. Unfortunately, one former Good Article, Docklands Light Railway has been demoted to B-class. We have 110 B-class articles and it would nice to see some of those improved and taken through the Good Article review process - so come on guys, get those books out and get fact checking.

As usual all suggestions to improving the metropolitan are welcome so if you have one we would be happy to hear from you.

This month's selected image

London Underground Battery-electric locomotive L16 designed to operate over tracks where the traction current is turned off for maintenance work.

From the editor

Thanks for reading.

Contributors to this Issue

DavidCane (talk) (Guest Editor and Distributor)
Simply south (talk) (Contributor and Distibutor)

Improving Wikipedia one article at a time since 2006!

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Cleanup : Lists of articles needing cleanup
Expand : These top 10 favourite articles to Good Article: J. P. Morgan · Heathrow Airport · River Thames · London Bridge · London Underground · London Bridge (Lake Havasu City) · Gatwick Airport · London Congestion Charge · Tube map · Tower Bridge These top importance articles to Good Article: 7 July 2005 London bombings · Buses in London · Crossrail · London Passenger Transport Board · London Transport (brand) · London Transport Museum · Transport for London · Transport in London
Photo : Upload your non-copyrighted London transportation images to Wikimedia Commons
Stubs : Improve a stub article
Update : London low emission zone, London congestion charge
Other :
- Suggest: A Did You Know...? fact here or an Anniversary fact here.
- Patrol: Recent changes
- Join: Become a member of WikiProject London Transport or encourage others

Assessment

Featured Articles & Lists

FAC/FLC
None

Good Articles

GAC
None

A
None

Other assessment notes

None

Other announcements

One article was promoted to Featured Article status:
- Chelsea Bridge

One article was promoted to Good Article status:
- Charles Pearson

A new timeline has been created for the London Underground listing important events in the network's history

Did you know...

...that Sir Alexander Valentine, Chairman of London Transport wrote a book encouraging Londoners to walk round the city.
...that in the 1960s Chelsea Bridge was a venue for illegal bike racing and, in 1970, a battle took place between rival motorcycle gangs.
...that before Charles Pearson campaigned for the construction of the Metropolitan Railway, he proposed a giant underground railway terminus in Farringdon?
...that a year after its death in 2006, the remains of a bottlenose whale removed from the River Thames at Battersea Bridge were put on public display in the offices of The Guardian newspaper?
...that in September 1844 a clown from Astley's Amphitheatre sailed from Vauxhall Bridge to Westminster Bridge in a washtub towed by geese?
...that the Dollis Brook Viaduct is the highest point on both the Northern Line and the London Underground above ground level, reaching 60 feet (18 m) in height?
...that the Dollis Valley Greenwalk is one of ten parks and open spaces in the London Borough of Barnet to win a £400,000 grant to improve its quality and safety?
...that Chelsea Bridge was little used at night when it first opened, because of its owners' policy of only turning the lighting on if Queen Victoria was spending the night in London?
...that Albert Bridge in London is seriously structurally unsound in part because of rotting caused by dog's urine?
...despite the many motorways serving London, only four (the M1, the M4, M11 and M25) actually enter Greater London?
...out of the 32 London Borough, six have no underground stations- all of them south of the River Thames.
...Marylebone tube station opened with the unusual name of Great Central, reflecting the main line company that ran trains out of the terminus?
...that Routemasters are still used on two heritage bus routes in London, routes 9 and 15?
...that for two years, from 1883 to 1885, the District Railway ran services along the Great Western Main Line to Windsor?

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--DavidCane (talk) 00:57, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Pictures

I'm not sure what your request is about. If you saying you would like to suggest these for possible selected pictures for the London Transport Portal, you should go to Portal:London Transport/Vote and use the voting process to nominate them. --DavidCane (talk) 20:38, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I don't usually take photos myself. Possibly, the best person to ask is User:Sunil060902, who seems to take and post quite a lot of pictures on the project's article pages. He may either have what you're looking for or be able to get it.

I missed your previous comment on the DLR article. I'm happy to look over something and give some comments but, possibly oddly, I'm not as interested in the trains that run on the tube and DLR system as the infrastructure on which they run. Therefore my knowledge of them is not very great and I don't possess any literature on the subject. --DavidCane (talk) 21:23, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Pictures

Hi!

You wanted some pics of the Class 390 Pendolino and the new 378 Electrostar (not Turbostar) on the Overground (unless you meant the 172?). Well I saw a 378 at Stratford station one evening last week, but by the time I got to the new platforms it had pulled out LOL! 390s are out of my remit so to speak, as my collection is mostly stations within the M25, and the 390 doesn't stop anywhere within the M25 (save for Watford) so I have never been on one of these trains! Anyway, not to come to you empty handed, I found:

Class 378 pool on FlickR (you are allowed to transfer FlickR shots straight into Wikipedia of you like, with appropriate licence tags)

http://www.flickr.com/groups/875923@N24/pool/

Class 390 interior - couldn't find too many of these online, and this may not be legal to copy into Wikipedia:

http://www.railwaypictures.co.uk/img2074.search.htm

best, Sunil060902 (talk) 12:12, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Actually, doing a search in Google Images on "Pendolino interior" brings up far more images than "390 interior"!

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=pendolino_interior&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

Sorry about the FlickR copyright, some images are OK if they have "BY" instead of "(C)". Guess we have to wait until the 378s are in wider circulation.

As for the DLR article, what information do you think is missing? best, Sunil060902 (talk) 13:01, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Once leaving London, Class 390s don't stop anywhere within the Travelcard area, sorry, so I don't ride these trains (same with the East Midlands diesel trains). BTW I replaced one new DLR stock picture because it was duplicated in the infobox. best, Sunil060902 (talk) 16:30, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Tables

{{help}} I need the Awards section in the following page: User:Tyw7/about me touching with the My Wikipedia Policy. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 15:16, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Refer to WP:TABLE, as advised in IRC. ∙ AJCham ᵀᴬᴸᴷ 17:16, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

User:Tyw7/licence

Subject to Algebraist-en's comment on #wikipedia-en-help, may I suggest you delete/blank/modify this this subpage sooner rather than later:

"CC doesn't allow you to dictate how your work should be attributed. It just requires reasonable attribution. It should be worded as a statement of how you wish to be attributed, not a command"

∙ AJCham talk 19:34, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

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It seems that you used my custom image description as a basis for this page. However, that text was deemed to be incompatible with the legal code of the CC-BY-SA 3.0 (albeit not the human-readable version of the license), thus, anyone using images uploaded under CC-BY-SA 3.0, while required to credit my name and the provided URI (reasonable to the medium utilized), were not required to strictly follow the text to the letter. If you're still interested, the current version of my description has now been updated to be conformant with CC-BY-SA 3.0. If you like, you may use that as a basis for your image descriptions in the future. Regards, decltype (talk) 21:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Norton Internet Security

Tyw7, you've always seemed interested in bringing NIS to GA-class. Could you read over my rough mockup of the final article in my sandbox? I need someone more objective than me to check the whole article for internal consistency. Really want to get this down before school .. you know :). I know you have school 24/7/365 though, so whenever you have time. TechOutsider ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:58, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Per IRC PM

[22:29] <tyw7> what do you mean by: McJohn do you want everything leading up to the ban? or just the ban? (You quit the network) My reply: hello again, McJohn wants to know what happened with the ban and everything. He was offline while it happened. So I'm giving him an email with my logs, and I wanted to know if he wanted to know everything that happend before and what happened during the ban, or just what happened during the ban. --Cubs197 (talk) 03:59, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Maiden Castle, Dorset

Hi, I'm not sure what you were trying to do with these edits as the edit summary was unhelpful, but you introduced inaccuracies so I've reverted them. Happy editing, Nev1 (talk) 19:08, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I was just testing the "reword" tool. Hopefully not much damage done. :-) --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 19:38, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Nothing that couldn't be corrected, but in future set up a sandbox in your userspace, such as User:Tyw7/Sandbox, where you can edit and test without disrupting other articles. Nev1 (talk) 19:42, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Helping Users

Hi Tyw7. Please stop responding to {{helpme}} requests. You are not experienced enough to be providing any valuable assistance. \ Backslash Forwardslash / {talk} 12:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Spotlight

Wikipedia:Spotlight/Newsletter/2024/December

DLR

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Logo

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ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 00:18, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Admin Coaching

Hi, Tyw7. I've been thinking it over, and I've decided not to take you on as a coachee. After some recent events that I've observed of you, I've decided that adminship is still quite a few months way, and it would be better to wait a few months before getting an admin coach. (X! · talk) · @756 · 17:08, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Peer review

I will be glad to look at Docklands Light Railway rolling stock again but it will take a few days. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:17, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Help!

{{help}} I need help with this template: User:Tyw7/QuiStatus. Why doesn't it show my qui status like: User:Pmlinediter/QuiStatus. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 15:36, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Beta Wikipedia

{{help}} Why doesn't qui work in the beta version of wikipedia? I found out many aspects of the old wikipedia (like the * purge button) does not appear in the Beta version of Wikipedia. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 15:37, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Beta_version#Beta Chzz ► 11:44, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
(ec) The purging gadget works, look for the link called "Purge" (not "*") in the drop-down menu. I'm also fairly certain that Qui works.
Your vector.js contains quite an amount of scripts, some of them badly maintained. I'd assume that one of them stopped working and is taking the rest down with it. You should either throw them all out, in particluar User:TheDJ/monobook.js, and add them back one by one, while bypassing your browser cache. That, or use a browser with a usable javascript console, like Firefox, and check in which script said console reports errors. For more focused help about a specific script, talk to the people who maintain it. Amalthea 11:51, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Then why does it worked in the "non beta" version? And which scripts are "broken"? --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 11:56, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Some scripts don't work with Vector skin. They can prevent loading of other, unrelated scripts, which is why they worked with Monobook, but don't with Vector.
I will not check all scripts you are using to see which ones work and which ones don't, I've tried explaining above how you can do that yourself. I have tested the purge gadget, the UTC clock gadget, and Qui, and all work using the Vector skin. I'm certain that all other Gadgets work as well, so it has to be one of those you import in your vector.js script. Amalthea 12:56, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

But they work ONLY with these options enable:

The JavaScript Standard Library, a compatibility library for browsers that lack full support for JavaScript 1.6. This includes Internet Explorer, Opera, and Safari 2.
Compatibility function to run scripts only tested on Monobook on the new Vector skin. Required for using Twinkle or Friendly (along with many other

scripts) with the Vector skin. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 13:07, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Not true. And please stop leaving me talkback notices, as the big box at the top of my talk page says. Amalthea 13:13, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Did you test these tools in IE8 AND beta version WITHOUT these options selected? --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 13:37, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Amalthea 14:29, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I need this option to be enable for the gadgets and qui to work:

Compatibility function to run scripts only tested on Monobook on the new Vector skin. Required for using Twinkle or Friendly (along with many other scripts) with the Vector skin.

--Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 15:53, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I'll say it a third time: "Some scripts don't work with Vector skin. They can prevent loading of other, unrelated scripts, which is why they worked with Monobook, but don't with Vector." Until I see you clearing out your vector.js you quite simply can't say which script it is that dies without the compatibility thunk. I am convinced that it's not the fault of those two Gadgets you mentioned.
And what would be your point anyway? That you need compatbility scripts to work on skins they weren't intended for (Vector), or work on some broken browsers (Internet Explorer)? That's what the compatibility scripts are for. Amalthea 16:53, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Stop bothering the Mediawiki developers.

Please stop bothering the MediaWiki developers. Not all gadgets work on all browsers, in all situations. If you are not capable enough to deal with this, then you should not be using Javascript gadgets and scripts. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 13:03, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Can't you fix those errors? Or at least add some instructions to add these options:

Compatibility function to run scripts only tested on Monobook on the new Vector skin. Required for using Twinkle or Friendly (along with many other

scripts) with the Vector skin.

--Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 13:09, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

My WikiBreak

Hi, could you look after Norton Internet Security and its peer review? I'll be gone for a couple months. TechOutsider ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:51, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Sure but there is nothing going on :-). --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 15:51, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I just checked, there is a long page of comments. I have effectively locked myself out of Wikipedia and can only edit as an anon IP now using the WikiBreak Enforcer. 68.218.184.194 (talk) 00:23, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Or you could have just put up the on and off banner and taking down the WikiBreak banner. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 13:52, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm having this wikibreak to save my tired eyes. 68.218.184.194 (talk) 15:24, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Software Image

I actually made it and uploaded it in school today, but the image doesn't exist, and doesn't show up on my contribs either so I'm REALLY confused as to what happened, I don't have the .svg at home, so sorry. Also, the color will be off a bit, as I don't know how to make the gradient perfect color (haven't figured out how to modify gradient colors besides by using the color picker), you should probably go ask the web graphic request (don't know what its called, but there was iirc a wikipedia userpage ad for them) since I'm not that skilled with vector art. ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 23:46, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

PS: you might want to check out why when scripts are enabled (on FF, with Twinkle and WikEd), your talk page notice shows up twice (same text), but not when disabled...ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 23:51, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

What are you talking about. And regarding the picture, any format will format will do. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 11:40, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

I included the text and a gradient bar at the bottom. If I'd known you were fine with any format, I would have had it done earlier. [3] ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 02:51, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

I thought you just wanted some stock material to make your own out of, (GIMP is a free software, or Paint.Net if you have Windows)...~~lemme fix that~~fixed, you asked for no gradient, so.... ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 19:22, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Err....tell me which of the following you want (yes/no)

WikiProject Software<no> N
Improving Wikipedia one Bit at a Time<no>N
Gradient on TEXT<no>N
Gradient on Background<yes>Y
White background <umm...>?

ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 22:03, 23 August 2009 (UTC) Per request: [4] ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 22:09, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

30 days or so. just save as. I have it on my desktop anyway.ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 22:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

If you have OpenOffice, or any other rich document editor, you can make basic gradients and shapes as well. I made complicated symbols in Open Office before. ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 22:12, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

image transfers

I believe I got everything from your gallery that wasn't transfered over already. Let me know if I didn't :) Jamesofur (talk) 13:04, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

NowCommons: File:Virgininside.jpg

File:Virgininside.jpg is now available on Wikimedia Commons as Commons:File:Virgininside.jpg. This is a repository of free media that can be used on all Wikimedia wikis. The image will be deleted from Wikipedia, but this doesn't mean it can't be used anymore. You can embed an image uploaded to Commons like you would an image uploaded to Wikipedia, in this case: [[File:Virgininside.jpg]]. Note that this is an automated message to inform you about the move. This bot did not copy the image itself. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 12:39, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Staffordstation.JPG is now available as Commons:File:Staffordstation.JPG. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 12:59, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

File:Staffordstationsouth.JPG is now available as Commons:File:Staffordstationsouth.JPG. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 22:43, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

350

Calm down. It was what looks like mistakenly removed by Raywil. Also, moving images into the gallery below instead of cluttering the page when they don't illustrate things already shown unless they are for a specific purpose is relatively common practice. Simply south (talk) 21:46, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I unfortunately deleted the intoduction by mistake when moving the pictures. I've now restored it though, and the pictures have all also been moved to the gallery at the bottom of the page, so hopefully it looks better now. Sorry for any confusion or disruption that this might have caused! (blushing) Raywil (talk) 01:06, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

DLR Rolling Stock

Nope, I'm not and have never been employed by DLR or any other part of TfL in any capacity. Indeed, I'm puzzled as to why you thought otherwise!?

I'll have a look at the Docklands Light Railway rolling stock article when I next get the chance (unlikely to be before Sunday or Monday) and see if there is anything I can help with. I'm not typically a good article writer though, I'm generally better at proof reading, minor fixes and the like. Thryduulf (talk) 01:01, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

True, but anyone sitting nearby with a camera can photograph it when they have opened it! Thryduulf (talk) 09:05, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Hey

Hey, nice page you've got there. Bob the Wikipedian ^{(talk • contribs)} 02:07, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Class 390 Interior

Interesting to see the 378 at Milton Keynes. Anyway I finally rode a class 390 Pendolino on Friday on a day trip to Birmingham, here is the interior:

best, Sunil060902 (talk) 23:34, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

No. it was after everyone had got off at New Street LOL! best, Sunil060902 (talk) 22:52, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Heading (IDK the heading, this was typed on top of my talk page without a heading)

Yes, that would be good, thanks for the invitation! May I make a suggestion that you might want to use "Show preview" between edits instead of saving after each of lots of small edits, as that would make using the History page easier and save Wikipedia's resources as it wouldn't have to save a version of the page after each small edit? Please let me know if there's a reason why you're saving after each edit if I'm wrong! Huangcjz (talk) 15:08, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Class 378

Hi there. I completely was surprised to see a Class 378 London Overground unit (378007) in passenger service between Willesden and Richmond today, but I took some pics. I will upload these within the next hour or so. I even took an interior shot too! best, Sunil060902 (talk) 22:36, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Well the speed thing wasn't too noticeable, given that the North London Line is a stopping service, but the acceleration was smoother if I recall correctly. Seating all longitudinal like in a tube train - cuts seating capacity by half. But it wasn't busy on Tuesday at 6pm, maybe we were lucky!. best, Sunil060902 (talk) 22:37, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for choosing my picture for your User Page! best, Sunil060902 (talk) 11:51, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Ah, but it appears there is an error in the code for your Selected Picture section! best, Sunil060902 (talk) 11:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I think I fixed the error. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 11:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it's good now! Sunil060902 (talk) 11:58, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

IRC

Personally no and i don't know how to use it. I'm usually contactable through my talkpage only. I'm sorry if this is an inconvenience. I also don't use e-mail for here. I'm sorry if this causes any troubles. Simply south (talk) 16:28, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi Tyw7, about this photo (File:Carassius_auratus_Black_Moor.jpg), thank you for the kind help and support. I just wanted to say that I appreciated that a lot. I'm still new here, so it felt really encouraging. Thank you! ﻯναოթ€ռ (talk) 19:30, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Cameras

Hi, sorry I don't have a lot of time right now. To get to the point though, I don't think any mobile phone camera is going to take good photos. I honestly don't look into them much to tell you which ones are better or worse, but the basic point is that they are really only for emergency use as far as I'm concerned. You're never going to produce FP quality images using a phone camera, at least not with any model I know of or can foresee.

For FPC the basic requirement is that your images are at least 1000 pixels on at least one side. In practice bigger is usually preferred, especially for big things like buildings (and train stations, trains, etc). To give you an idea, an image of 1000 x 1000 pixels would be 1 megapixel. There are many images under 2MP still being promoted, but usually they're of bugs and birds and that type of thing. Nonetheless my point is don't be fooled by the megapixel measurement. Trade good quality for megapixels any day - if having twice the megapixels means you simply have to downsample to half the size to get the same quality, you're gaining nothing, but that is as often as not the case. IMO no phone camera should be more than about 2MP in reality as the lenses etc simply can't handle bigger resolutions. The rest is just marketing.

Re what settings to use that depends on what camera you have and what it lets you do. It also of course depends on what you're taking at the time. Composition is again something you need to learn through practice and through observing other people's images. Can I suggest for starters that whether you want to vote or not, you visit FPC regularly and see what images are regarded as well composed. After a while you may start to get more of a feel for your own composition. The other thing is to divorce yourself from ownership of your own images. What I mean is take them home, put them on your computer, and say I don't care who took this, if I saw this would I think it was a well composed image - really be honest with yourself and look for things that are wrong. If you want to discuss a particular image I could give some suggestions, but for example I mentioned at PPR that those shots just looking straight across the station weren't very engaging, with the one looking diagonally across being better. Open them both up, forget you took them, and see if you can see any reasons why I'd say the diagonal one is better.

Drop me another note if I can be of any more help, or if you'd like some advice on buying a real camera. --jjron (talk) 08:35, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Your proposed barnstar

Ty, I am such an ass. I failed to leave you a message that your proposed barnstar is being discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikipedia Awards#Proposed Image Barnstar. Please join our discussion. Sorry I forgot to do this earlier. Un school 03:51, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

FPC

I have closed Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Cassio Carved Bridge and Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Staffordstation as the images were simply not of a high enough quality. To echo what jjron said above, your camera is simply not good enough to produce featured quality level shots. Be aware that a lot of our photographers are spending hundreds of pounds on equipment for their photography- I myself paid around £400 for my camera (which is not nearly as good as many people are using), and I am going to look into investing more (for a tripod, for a start) so that I can hopefully start contributing pictures of a higher standard. If you are interested in the featured picture process, I strongly advise you spend some time around the featured picture candidates page, getting an idea of what is expected, and I would also advise taking the advice of those who offer it- jjron's advice above is very sound. J Milburn (talk) 09:15, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to note that these are not wprthy of VPC, either. You seem to have ignored the advice offered to you on the picture peer review- you're really wasting everyone's time here. It's good that you're eager, and it's great that you're adding these pictures to the articles, but please, the pictures themselves are not good enough for FPC or VPC, and, again, I strongly advise you hang around and watch (maybe comment here and there) for a little while before considering any further nominations. If you have any questions, you can contact me on my talk page, but please do take advice from myself and others when it is offered. J Milburn (talk) 09:22, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I nominated the Cassio Carved Bridge pic because it was significantly clearly than other pics. In addition, I have "edited" the pics using Adobe photoshop to correct the lighting, etc. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 09:56, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Without even going in to the poor quality of the camera, it should be immediately obvious that the dating on the image precludes it from being viable as a FPC. Note I have also closed your VPC nominations. J Milburn (talk) 10:06, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean? --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 10:10, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

The watermark showing the date in the image itself was not appropriate for a FPC. There were also numerous other major issues. These things were explained to you at the peer review, here on your talk page and on the FPC/VPC pages. Again, all I can recommend is that you take a read of our FP criteria and valued picture criteria. J Milburn (talk) 10:58, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm not going to argue about you being banned from any IRC channel, I wasn't responsible for that, I was merely reporting it. I know you had no intention to misguide newbies, but, as you were told at the time, some of your "help" was less than great. In any case, this is all in the past, so there's not really much point debating minutiae now. J Milburn (talk) 17:02, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

DLR vehicles

I don't know much on this topic but i hope i can help out in the next few days. Simply south (talk) 20:14, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Forgot to add

The Metropolitan

The WikiProject London Transport Newsletter
Issue 17 - September 2009)

August | October

London Transport News

Note: Oldest news items at bottom of list

September

Introduction of pink Oyster validators may mean cheaper fares for people avoiding Zone 1 if they touch in Midway through their journey, at some key interchanges.

TfL will launch Countdown, a new sevice which shows when and where the next bus is for mobile and internet users.

August

More bendy buses removed

Upminster tube depot celebrates 50 years

New cameras to ease traffic

New Travel Support card launched for people with certain disabilities

Signals now use LEDs to save energy

TfL moves to Greenwich Peninsula

Extra staff on London Overground to help passengers

Serco operator to set up and run London Cycle Hire scheme

New bus lane to be installed at Piccadilly Circus

Local pedestrians and cyclists would use Henleys Corner in Barnet more if it were improved

Member News

Hello to Klomphy, Huangcjz, mattdickinson and Likelife

We currently have 76 members signed-up.

This WikiProject would not be where it is today without each and every one of its members! Thank you to all!

General

After the surge of new articles in June, July has been a quieter month with just one new featured article, Chelsea Bridge (well done again Iridescent), and one new good article, Charles Pearson. We therefore, currently have 10 Featured Articles, 1 Featured List and 10 Good Articles although two of thse are under reassessment. Unfortunately, one former Good Article, Docklands Light Railway was demoted to B-class in July and in early August this was followed by Jean Charles de Menezes. We have 90 B-class articles and it would nice to see some of those improved as suggested before.

However, overall assessment of articles appears to have dropped with 43% of articles now unasssessed for quality. Also, 35% of articles have no assessment or importance rating at all. This is quite an increase whereas it was only 1/4 at the start of the year.

There are concerns over what areas of the project are still in use and what are not. Please see WT:LT#Condition of the Wikiproject London Transport page.

On the Portal, the only active areas seem to be the voting and changing of the selected pictures and articles. The transport news seems to be infrequently updated with the most up-to-date news being in this newsletter!

As usual all suggestions to improving the Metropolitan are welcome so if you have one we would be happy to hear from you.

This month's selected image

From the editor

August, despite some significant changes appears to have been a quiet month. I hope this is still interesting\informative.

Thanks to DavidCane and Huangcjz for some corrections.

Contributors to this Issue

Simply south (talk) (Editor and Distibutor)

Improving Wikipedia one article at a time since 2006!

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Cleanup : Lists of articles needing cleanup
Expand : These top 10 favourite articles to Good Article: J. P. Morgan · Heathrow Airport · River Thames · London Bridge · London Underground · London Bridge (Lake Havasu City) · Gatwick Airport · London Congestion Charge · Tube map · Tower Bridge These top importance articles to Good Article: 7 July 2005 London bombings · Buses in London · Crossrail · London Passenger Transport Board · London Transport (brand) · London Transport Museum · Transport for London · Transport in London
Photo : Upload your non-copyrighted London transportation images to Wikimedia Commons
Stubs : Improve a stub article
Update : London low emission zone, London congestion charge
Other :
- Suggest: A Did You Know...? fact here or an Anniversary fact here.
- Patrol: Recent changes
- Join: Become a member of WikiProject London Transport or encourage others

Assessment

Featured Articles & Lists

FAC/FLC

Timeline of the London Underground

Good Articles

GAC
None

A
None

Other assessment notes

Timeline of the London Underground is currently a featured list candidate

A1 road (London) and A215 road are on good article review as part of a larger project to see whether articles should have their GA statuses retained.

Jean Charles de Menezes was demoted to B-Class.

Other announcements

Sheila Gallagher was nominated for deletion but the decision was decided to keep it as a disambiguation page.

Tyw7 requests help with improving Docklands Light Railway rolling stock

A major move request was done by MRSC, who has recently returned, at Talk:London Paddington station#Requested move. The move involves the format of names of many London stations. Please see the discussion.

Mattdickinson brought up an interesting point on correcting Live departure boards

Template:Nearest Over has been deleted.

Did you know...

...that Sir Alexander Valentine, Chairman of London Transport wrote a book encouraging Londoners to walk round the city.
...that in the 1960s Chelsea Bridge was a venue for illegal bike racing and, in 1970, a battle took place between rival motorcycle gangs.
...that before Charles Pearson campaigned for the construction of the Metropolitan Railway, he proposed a giant underground railway terminus in Farringdon?
...that a year after its death in 2006, the remains of a bottlenose whale removed from the River Thames at Battersea Bridge were put on public display in the offices of The Guardian newspaper?
...that in September 1844 a clown from Astley's Amphitheatre sailed from Vauxhall Bridge to Westminster Bridge in a washtub towed by geese?
...that the Dollis Brook Viaduct is the highest point on both the Northern Line and the London Underground above ground level, reaching 60 feet (18 m) in height?
...that the Dollis Valley Greenwalk is one of ten parks and open spaces in the London Borough of Barnet to win a £400,000 grant to improve its quality and safety?
...that Chelsea Bridge was little used at night when it first opened, because of its owners' policy of only turning the lighting on if Queen Victoria was spending the night in London?
...that Albert Bridge in London is seriously structurally unsound in part because of rotting caused by dog's urine?
...despite the many motorways serving London, only four (the M1, the M4, M11 and M25) actually enter Greater London?
...out of the 32 London Borough, six have no underground stations- all of them south of the River Thames.
...Marylebone tube station opened with the unusual name of Great Central, reflecting the main line company that ran trains out of the terminus?
...that Routemasters are still used on two heritage bus routes in London, routes 9 and 15?
...that for two years, from 1883 to 1885, the District Railway ran services along the Great Western Main Line to Windsor?

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Simply south (talk) 20:27, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

If you want, you can write the next issue next month. Otherwise i could add a gallery section for next month's. Simply south (talk) 23:19, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually save writing next month's until the end of this month. Simply south (talk) 08:23, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

I have found a book i have that can help on the P86, P89, B90, B92 and partly B2k but nothing later. I will try in a few days to get it up. Simply south (talk) 20:52, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello

Hi this other guy wrote this on your user page and do you want it? I reverted it because it looks bad. +

+

RuneScape Adventure (talk) 00:44, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Evony

I've replied to you on talk:Evony. Thanks. VsevolodKrolikov (talk) 00:36, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Hey there. You recently plopped a neutrality disputed tag on Evony. This is fine and good, except that the tag reads 'the neutrality of this article is disputed', which, unless I'm missing something, is not true. Please give your reasoning for the tag on Talk:Evony, lest it be removed for lack of rationalization. Toodles! BobAmnertiopsis ∴_ChatMe! 17:56, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

I guess this game has more negative reviews than other games. File:Grin.gif --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 20:38, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi there. Regarding the warning for vandalization.

I hope you take a closer look at the editsdiffs presented at [[5]].I understand you warning me based on a brief look the presented editdiffs. But the list list is not correct and the characterizing of the edits are tendentious to speak mildly. In conclution most of those edits ar not only of good faith but easyly motivated as ordinary editin within wikipedias policys and benefiting the article. I editing an responce on the side and if needed an detailed explanation and analyse of each of the edit. It is possibly that as a whole whole accusation can be called false and a personal attack in a more calculated way than those presented before. If so found I think it is a very severe violation by Jiujitsuguy (and Stellarkid (talk), not be taken lightly. Untill further noted I stay away from reverting and keep a low profile at the article. Regards Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 21:22, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

That is a good idea! Stay away from conflict. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 21:59, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

How is things going? Its kind of sad to still have your note warning me of vandalizing hanging on my talkpage. If I was you I would be realy pissed on the one that lured you and keep an eye on that editor. Regards Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 02:10, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I've downgraded your edit warning. I'm not an expert in the Gaza War but I suggest you keep a cool head. By the way, I wonder, why are you interested in the Garza War? It's such a "hot" debatable subject. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 13:43, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I read this article and started to help out with the conflict in lead. It was a case of ppl ballancing different not NPOV statemente and it bloated the lead. I removed the pov-material to a new section and left a good NPOV summary. It was of goldstone report btw. A user, RomaC, i think called me "Mr Unsigned Anon" (my first edits was as IP) on talk and I took that as a username. I continued to edit on the subject (International Law) as I read about it in reports and news. The International Law section had a similar problem as Lead. It has a Main Article and should therby be a NPOV summary, not bloated with parts views and jounalistic dramaturgy. Far more than the encyclopedic content. In short, it needed to be trimmed down.

Now, as one see the section was full of responses to accusations. Accusations from UN against both parts. The responces defending israel and trying to attack the UN factfinding report was a huge mass of text, bigger than the encyclopedic content and didnt belong there. Easy understandable. But I waked the rage of some editors supporting israel who started to attack me in all kind of ways and rest you know. Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 20:12, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Mr Unsigned Anon

Hi, Tyw7. I wanted to weigh in since I just saw my contribution here. I did spend a fair amount of time on that list, but as in all things there may be (probably are) errors. I did not really expect it to be in an official forum or I would have double-checked everything. It was motivated by what I saw as a systematic attempt at removing and destroying material that had been put in by other experienced editors, and being reverted (not sure they were all technically reverts, but certainly they were in spirit) with little to no policy-driven arguments. When you remove the crux of the material that someone puts in, it essentially reverts the idea. I was really attempting to document what I was seeing, and for any mistakes I do apologize. I don't apologize for having made the attempt to document, though. MrUnsignedAnon came into the article on the 24th September with a very strong POV and went so far as to suggest to Juijits (have a hard time with the spelling, so, "Jui") (more than once) that he recuse himself from all Israel-Palestinian area editing. Frankly I was outraged by that. (will those diffs if you insist, but would be happier to move on). And by the way, I think how you handled this so far was very fair. It looks as if an important compromise has been reached in the lede as well. Not sure why, or how, but maybe you stepped in at the right moment! So, thank you. Stellarkid (talk) 04:31, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Glad to be of help. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 13:51, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I see you would like to be a admin. Good. Then you shouldnt answer this "weigh in" with a "Glad to be of help"! as if you agree to all statements in this above (Im afraid you got royaly manipulated by him and Jiujitsuguy on Wikiquette alerts). If I was you I should feel damn angry being used like this and make sure to go deeper investigating wtf going on. Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 22:18, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

How do you suggest do I investigate. I was simply agreeing to the bottom sentences to quell the arguement and prevent escalation to a Wikipedia Gaza War between you and jiu. I'm quite inexperienced with this Gaza War article. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 23:07, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

You could for start investigate the list of editdiffs (the ones stellarkid compiled) and come to the conclusion that it was a load of crap. If not so redicilous I would brougt it to Wikiquette when Stellarkid put it on jiujitsuguys talkpage. And presented (by jiujutsuguy) at Wikialert it is a personal attack followed the ones I started to present there in first place. It is a false accusation, with bad intent. Manipulative to give the impression that im a editwarrior. Take a look at jiujitsuguys edithistory, the talkpage of gazawar where he neglect policybased advice from experienced editors. This say much [[6]] and this [[7]]

Then the above "weigh in". Look, he got "Frankly I was outraged by that" by "and went so far as to suggest to Juijits" "he recuse himself " You saw the editdiffs from jiujitsuguy on Wikiquette I presented first? first of them:

"Your English is barely understandable so it's difficult for me to respond to your incoherent, illogical arguments. Again, I suggest you take a two-year English course and come back when you can articulate a coherent thought."

He (Stellarkid) compiled the list and state accusations here on your page that contains lies. Easy understandable if you just look at his own presented diffs. Read edit summarys, talk.

What happen? I get serious warnings on my talkpage (still one there). Fuck my life.Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 00:53, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Unfortuately, I don't feel comfortable involving myself in this dispute, and therefore must back out. I've posted a thread at Wikiquette alerts. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 13:53, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

thanks

for your confidence, but i don't see much movement on that thread and the editors have been warned (both i think?) so i'd rather not inflame it with an additional viewpoint. let me know if it escalates and i'd be happy to help. untwirl(talk) 02:37, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

we must be on opposite sleep schedules! i dropped some advice on each of their talk pages. hope it helps. untwirl(talk) 19:14, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

October issue WP:LT newsletter query

I know this is a bit late asking but it is still early in the month. I was wondering whether you'd be interested in doing the October issue of the Metropolitan? If so, it needs to be done ASAP. It should be got out by the end of the week. Or do you want to do the November issue instead\as well? Simply south (talk) 19:20, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

i'm interested but what should I do? --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 23:09, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

From where you created this month's edition, you need to update with what has happened this month (or rather last month and the start of this month). For the editorial sections see User talk:Simply south/February to August 2008 archive#The Metropolitan and User talk:Unisouth#Metro. For sources see Wikipedia:WikiProject London Transport/The Metropolitan/sources. The London Transport news section is generally updated from looking here. Also you can change the design if you like. Perhaps look at previous editions of the newsletter to get a general feel for it. Simply south (talk) 21:10, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I've updated a few stuffs. I now hand it over to you. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 00:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Is there anything you want to comment on the assessment, maybe show that we are slippingh and comment on the progress. Also check the cats to see if there are any new featured articles and good articles to both add and remove. Do you want to do any other changes? Simply south (talk) 15:10, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Never mind. Thanks for what you have done so far. Are you interested in doing Next Month's? (It won't be so big either as this month is already nearly half way through) Simply south (talk) 21:51, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for bringing it up again in Wikiquette alerts.

Things flame up elswhere too [[8]]. Best Wishes Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 11:04, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi. As you decided to drop your engagement in my alert regarding jiujitsuguy I hope you remove your warning on my talkpage. As it seem based on jiujitsuguys statement with the flawed collection of editdiffs and as I assume you dont going to look deeper into it. It should be seen as a small misstake and corrected. Still thanks for your help. Regards Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 07:16, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

What is on your talk page is yours to delete or achieve on your own discretion. However, it would be consider bad to remove things from OTHERS talk page. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 12:20, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes I can remove it my self but it really not change anything and is little wrong if not put on a archive, Im correct? I like you to remove it ( it makes it formal removed like you downgraded it earlier) or atleast remove the part "Stop reverting the edits of Jiujitsuguy (talk · contribs). Instead of reverting his/her edit, why not just add yours to the article.". Only you (or admin after lenghtly wrangling) can actually remove it correctly. As you might saw juijutsuguy used the vandalwarning against me [[9]] even after you downgraded it.[[10]].I dont want him to have that opertunity to get previous uninvolved editors or admins to act upon me in good faith. And then I have to go thrugh explaining and demanding them to waste time to understand jiujitsuguys shenanigans thru lot of editdifs, and refer to you, possible involving you agan against your will. Regards Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 22:28, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I really appreciate it. But I have also learned lot of this how important it is to edit within Wikipedias policy and build good concensus. Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 10:56, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

RfA

I would recommend withdrawing – the fact that every oppose so far (except for the first) was made during an edit-conflict isn't a good sign. --Dylan 620 (contribs, logs, review) 18:25, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Can you help guide me to adminship? My previous admin coach is AFK. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 18:26, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

FYI, I've closed your RfA and removed its transclusion at WP:RFA, per your withdrawl request. Best wishes, JamieS93 18:47, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

No thanks, I don't do admin coaching. JamieS93 18:52, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

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You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Lord Spongefrog (review) (I am Czar of all Russias!) 19:12, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Contribution page formatting

Here's what it looks like on my system.

File:Tyw7Contribs.png

It might be because I'm using the Usability beta instead of Monobook.... --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:42, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm getting it correct. There is no such overlapping. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 18:44, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

So, you're telling me I Photoshopped that to make you look bad? --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:15, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

No. I'm saying to me it doesn't look bad (I'm using Monobook btw). --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 19:16, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

It may look correct on your page. It looks horribly using other skins, other font sizes, some other browsers, if a sitenotice is displayed, if some custom CSS is used, and probably in other cases, too. Don't use it. Amalthea 19:19, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

What's wrong with the formatting of my userpage? And how to fix it. BTW, most of the users use monobook. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 19:22, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean, what's wrong? Look at the picture. You fix it by removing {{title override}}. If you're content that it only looks bad for some editors, that's your choice. Amalthea 19:33, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind that, your talkpage is an eyesore, I suggest removing some of those banners. Neat and simple is better, but that's just my opinion, take it or leave it. -- œ ^™ 02:32, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Reply

Hello, your user page looks absolutely great. Is this on behalf of User Page Design Center? It is no longer a requirement for review and you can automatically add your user page to the fame page. Cheers, Zoo Fari 23:20, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

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DLR pics

Best place to take a pic would be Crossharbour when a train terminates. Everyone will get off (no one will get on until it reverses into the other platform), and then you can take a pic of the empty carriage. Happy to help, Sunil060902 (talk) 11:14, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

That's too bad. I'll see what I can do. best, Sunil060902 (talk) 10:59, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Symantec.png

A tag has been placed on File:Symantec.png requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted images or text borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Chzz ► 21:35, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

October Metro - better late than never

The Metropolitan

The WikiProject London Transport Newsletter
Issue 18 - October 2009)

September | November

London Transport News

For more information see: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/3119.aspx

Note: Oldest news items at bottom of list

October

A few London Overground new British Rail Class 378 is seen in service.

The new Docklands Light Railway rolling stock B07/09 seen in service. In the past, this model has been a rare sight but now it is becomming common.

A new Cycle Hire scheme is introduced in London.

New report shows Countdown could be solution to pedestrian confusion at traffic lights

Route P13 has been revised to improve reliability for passengers

September

Introduction of pink Oyster validators may mean cheaper fares for people avoiding Zone 1 if they touch in Midway through their journey, at some key interchanges.

TfL will launch Countdown, a new sevice which shows when and where the next bus is for mobile and internet users.

TfL's Lost Property Office celebrates 75 years

London's taxi drivers take a large group of seriously ill children on a trip of a lifetime to Disneyland Paris

Mayor opens new Imperial Wharf station

Strike threat lifted as RMT leadership accepts Victoria line working patterns

New edition of 'Poems on the Underground' hits bookstores

New Travel Information Centre opens at Euston

'No reason' for Victoria line strike, says London Underground

Transport for London tightens guidelines for licensing taxi and private hire drivers in London

TfL calls on PPP Arbiter to set a fair price for Tube Lines contract

Ian Brown, the Managing Director of Transport for London's (TfL) London Rail directorate and Chairman of Docklands Light Railway received an award for making 'an outstanding personal contribution to the rail industry'

Free Guided Walks across the Capital on 26-27 September 2009

Urgent utility works in Victoria for next eight weeks

Central London roads close as weekend of cycling comes to London

Work progressing on Hanger Lane bridges

Ten rail stations to be managed by Transport for London

TfL campaign urges drivers to 'give motorcyclists a second thought' and cut road deaths

Saddle up for Cycle Fridays this week and you may end up on the winners' podium at the Tour of Britain

Mike Brown named as new Managing Director of London Underground

London Underground staff turn the Tube green, purple and pink

Giant eye warns drug drivers to stay away from the wheel

TfL agrees £1bn loan for Crossrail from European Investment Bank

Introduction of pink Oyster route validators at selected stations

Better bus information on the way

Writer Sarah Butler discovers Underground literary talent

Wanstead station re-opens following major works

Member News

We currently have 77 members signed-up.

Welcome User:Mackenzieblu who joined on September 26, 2009.

This WikiProject would not be where it is today without each and every one of its members! Thank you to all!

General

September has seen an increase in the number of articles as well as October. There was only the promotion Timeline of the London Underground to featured list status so congratulations to those involved. October so far has been eventful in other areas except for the assessment side.

On an assessment at the start of October the overall assessment showed that (and still is at the time of writing) there are 41% of articles have no assessment or importance rating at all.This seems to be getting worse compatred to to the start of the year when this figure was only at 25%.

On the Portal, the only active areas seem to be the voting and changing of the selected pictures and articles. The transport news seems to be infrequently updated with the most up-to-date news being in this newsletter!

As usual all suggestions to improving the Metropolitan are welcome so if you have one we would be happy to hear from you.

This month's selected image

The following WikiProject London Transport pictures have been selected as amongst the best from the Project and are displayed in random rotation on the London transport Portal.

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Selected pictures

Purge server cache
List of former monthly choices

This month's gallery of images (added by User:Tyw7)

Two B07/09 rolling stock next to an older B92 rolling stock at the Poplar DLR depot next to Poplar DLR Station.
A B90 stock pulling into Pontoon Dock DLR station.
A British Rail Class 378 no. 007 awaiting departure at Richmond station (London)
The interior of a London Overground owned British Rail Class 378 put into service on the East London Line.
First generation Docklands Light Railway rolling stock (P86) stock in original livery, September 1987
The control desk of a Docklands Light Railway rolling stock. This control desk is usually closed.

From the editor

Tyw7 has contributed well to this edition with the addition of a gallery section which may be present in future editions as well as updating the transport news. Thank you for this.

DavidCane has also done some reorganising of the whole project after little response on the status on various pages from 2 months ago. This has helped in some ways and thanks to him.

Contributors to this Issue

Simply south (talk) - (Editor and Distibutor)
Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) - Guest Contributor

Improving Wikipedia one edit at a time!

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Cleanup : Lists of articles needing cleanup
Expand : These top 10 favourite articles to Good Article: J. P. Morgan · Heathrow Airport · River Thames · London Bridge · London Underground · London Bridge (Lake Havasu City) · Gatwick Airport · London Congestion Charge · Tube map · Tower Bridge These top importance articles to Good Article: 7 July 2005 London bombings · Buses in London · Crossrail · London Passenger Transport Board · London Transport (brand) · London Transport Museum · Transport for London · Transport in London
Photo : Upload your non-copyrighted London transportation images to Wikimedia Commons
Stubs : Improve a stub article
Update : London low emission zone, London congestion charge
Other :
- Suggest: A Did You Know...? fact here or an Anniversary fact here.
- Patrol: Recent changes
- Join: Become a member of WikiProject London Transport or encourage others

Assessment

Featured Articles & Lists

FAC/FLC
None

Good Articles

GAC
None

A
None

Other assessment notes

Timeline of the London Underground was promoted to featured list status in September. Well done to all involved.

A1 road (London) and A215 road retained their GA statuses from good article review as part of a larger project to see whether articles should have their GA statuses retained.

Isambard Kingdom Brunel has been under featured article review.

Other announcements

London School Buses was nominated for deletion but the decision was decided to keep due to no consensus.

Tyw7 requests help with improving Docklands Light Railway rolling stock

MRSC requests help with improving North and West London Light Railway

Move requests occurred with M4 motorway, M1 motorway and History of transport in London (1933–2003).

WikiProject London Transport has been added to a project that has generated a list of the most visited pages related to this project. These can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject London Transport/Favourite pages.

The station naming convention move outcome was no consensus.

All other templates related to Nearest Over have been deleted.

Did you know...

...that the Underground's architect Charles Holden and LPTB Managing Director Frank Pick were both sons of drapers?
...that Blackfriars Underground station (opened 1870) pre-dates the main line station by sixteen years?
...that the Westway, the West Cross Route and the East Cross Route are the only parts of the GLC's 1960s plan for the London Motorway Box that were built?
...that prior to the transfer of most of the route to the Central line in 1947, the Fairlop Loop saw circular services running from Liverpool Street to Stratford to Ilford to Woodford to Stratford to Liverpool Street?
...that Belsize Park station is one of the only eight stations in London to have a deep level bomb shelter beneath it?
…that Mile End tube station is the only station on the London Underground network from which it is possible to reach any other station with only a single change of train?
...that Greenford station has the only remaining wooden escalator on the London Underground?
...that There are only two tube stations which have all five vowels in them - Mansion House station and South Ealing station.
...that the Docklands Light Railway rolling stock is capable of travelling 100 km/h (62 mph)?
... that after World War II, designs of the London Transport brand were simplified to reduce manufacturing and maintenance costs?

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Also thanks for the help you contributed to this. Simply south (talk) 21:57, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

October 2009

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from File:Symantec.png, a page you have created yourself. If you do not believe the page should be deleted, you can place a {{hangon}} tag on the page, under the existing speedy deletion tag (please do not remove the speedy deletion tag), and make your case on the page's talk page. Administrators will look at your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. Chzz ► 23:58, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

User:Tyw7/licence

Re. User:Tyw7/licence

It is not appropriate to impose any conditions on copyright, such as "If you are a (commercial) publisher and want to relicense my pictures please email me first at [email redacted]. ".

The CC licence covers the attribution in detail; please do not add your own conditions; doing so will invalidate the licence. Chzz ► 00:08, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Chzz, the template says relicense, not reuse. The commercial publishers are still able to use the image under the original license. J Milburn (talk) 00:09, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Your recent addition to File:Symantec.png has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of article content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. The image was speedy deleted (after you removed the speedy deletion tag), "21:58, 14 October 2009 PeterSymonds (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Symantec.png" ‎ (<deletedhistory>: F9: Unambiguous copyright violation)" - yet you uploaded it again 17:47, 15 October 2009. Chzz ► 21:45, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

For goodness sake, the first and second images ARE different from each other!! The second image is MY own creation using the Yin and yang symbol found at the article. Plus, another admin agreed with me! I didn't remove the notice!!! He said "picture too travia for Symantec copyright to apply".--Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 00:19, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

This is thie "second picture"

--Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 00:23, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, yes, we were wrong - both myself and the deleting administrator. As I could not see the older version, when I saw the new one on commons, uploaded so soon after deletion, I thought that it was the same.

I still have concerns that it is a misrepresentation of the brand, possibly a trademark infringement; I will try to check up on that. It seems to me to be an attempt to circumvent the system, which does not allow us to use the copyright logo. In the same way, I could design a gold-coloured letted M that was similar to the McDonalds Golden Arches, and if I used it for e.g. a computer badge, I think it would be OK - but, if I used it on a T-shirt, next to the word "McDonalds", then I think I would be breaking the law. As I said, I will try to check that further; I realise that there are other examples, such as the Windows logo in user boxes. Sorry again for any confusion about the similar file. Chzz ► 00:54, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

P.S. You did remove the speedy deletion tag from the copyrighted version, at 15:03, October 14, 2009. Chzz ► 01:02, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I think our edits clashed. I was just changing a summary and adding the source of the image (first) --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 01:06, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi again!

Hope I dont disrupt you but I got problems with Jiujitsuguy again. He answered on a complaint [11] in a very familiar way[12]. Your weight in regarding his old list of editdiffs whould be very helpfull. Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 02:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Now he's beginingi to get on my nerve! I would say let it go! I'm started to agree with banning him as he seems to be trying to start a was than cooperating.Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 03:09, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Please don't tell me to disengage from any article. First off, I've edited other articles as well. Second, I've researched the Gaza subject thoroughly. All my edits are well sourced and at times, double sourced. Mr Unsigned Anon contributes no original research of his own but insists on reverting all my sourced edits. I will not disengage as I have done nothing wrong. But I will not sit back helplessly and watch someone trying to push a POV. If you go to this page http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Nableezy#Sleepy_Goldstone you'll see that rather than promoting edit wars, I'm trying to foster compromise between editors.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 14:20, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

I can not for the life of me understand how you've taken his position over mine. Have you seen some of the things that he's said on my talk page as well as the Gaza discussion page? I've compiled a list for your review.

Come on Wikifellows. His IP says he is from Brooklyn USA. Why on earth can one believe a guy from Brooklyn working for the Israeli Goverment. Just look at all nice areas and etnic... Borough Park... Wait! Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 12:49, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Finally I found that recruitment office. Now where is jiujitsuguys bankacount so he can get that recrutbonus? Lookie new bombwest. Wonder what happen if I push this red button. Oh shii.... Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 05:22, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Just trying to grind up a solution, no accusation involved. But BashBrannigan suggestion is a middleway. No bold text and no Cast Lead. And thats just the first part of lead. Damnit, there is more diputed. But without you and Nableezy agrea this will take long time. I understand he will drop the bold text if Im right. Cant you accept BashBrannigan:s? Its attractive to me as 'Cast Lead' is, even kind of abstract as I never been in Gaza, a name splattered by up to 926 civilians blood. Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 09:06, 9 October 2009 (UTC

Yes, November 4 shit started... Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 16:19, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

If you are a Israeli or American jew I like to discuss some tings with you. Because there is some things i dont understand and you could help me with it. But first I think you should stop edit articles about the conflict between Israel and Palestinians. Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 09:19, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, hope the weather is good in Brooklyn. Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 17:31, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

The first comment is particularly vile. Do you subscribe to this view?

In the second comment (left on the Gaza discussion page) he makes some reference to my bank account. What my bank account has to do with Gaza is beyond me

In the 3rd comment he clearly shows his true colors and demonstrates his bias, "as I never been in Gaza, a name splattered by up to 926 civilians blood."

In the 4th statement he uses gratuitous profanity

And in the 5th he assumes (wrongly) that I am of a particular ethnic background. This is an inappropriate question to ask and I found it to be offensive in the extreme. After his last comment, I informed him not to leave messages on my Talk page but apparently, he has difficulty understanding instruction because he still does.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 15:01, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

This is the latest, just posted message left on my Talk page by Mr Unsigned Anon baiting and goading me to engage him in an edit war. http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User_talk:Jiujitsuguy#Gaza_War_3 This last post should make it clear as day to you who the bad guy is.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 15:32, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Please go to http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Gaza_War#POV_tag for Mr Unsigned Anon's latest "helpful contribution" to the Gaza Discussion page. Instead of adding something that someone can genuinely respond to, he spews at best, incoherent gibberish and at worst, another profanity.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 17:27, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Can you provide the edit dif for the above statements? That will help support your case. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 21:20, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

I absolutely can and will. Just give me a little time to put the package together.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 00:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Ok, Arb. But I was just to file a 3RR violation on him. What do I do with it now? Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 21:34, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Try disengaging with the conflict. Or go to the IRC to ask for "expert admin help" http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikipedia-en-help --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 21:44, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

I hope this statement "Based on the edit difs, it seems Mr. Unsigned Anon trying to start the war. He provokes with name calling and repeatedly opening up the case." isnt based on the above. It looks really bad edited out of context. If it going to be of importence, which I suspect, I can arrange the editdiffs. Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 22:45, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

But DID you do the name calling? And as long as I remember, I and untwirl (talk · contribs) ASKED you to disengage from the case. And what will re arrange the editdiffs do? --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 22:52, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

I decided to leve 3RR for the moment. And namecalling is not what I call it. I call it framing. Or manipulation if you prefer. Probably 'playing the racist card' or even antisemite. For example look what happen to this without editing and last whithout the commatation: short: I dont whant the word cast lead in the first paragraph in article Gaza Wars leadtext but in second paragraph. from a consensusbuilding.

as I never been in Gaza, a name splattered by up to 926 civilians blood.

Just trying to grind up a solution, no accusation involved. But BashBrannigan suggestion is a middleway. No bold text and no Cast Lead. And thats just the first part of lead. Damnit, there is more diputed. But without you and Nableezy agrea this will take long time. I understand he will drop the bold text if Im right. Cant you accept BashBrannigan:s? Its attractive to me as 'Cast Lead' is, even kind of abstract as I never been in Gaza, a name splattered by up to 926 civilians blood. Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 09:06, 9 October 2009 (UTC

unedited:

Just trying to grind up a solution, no accusation involved. But BashBrannigan suggestion is a middleway. No bold text and no Cast Lead. And thats just the first part of lead. Damnit, there is more diputed. But without you and Nableezy agrea this will take long time. I understand he will drop the bold text if Im right. Cant you accept BashBrannigan:s? Its attractive to me as 'Cast Lead' is, even kind of abstract as I never been in Gaza, a name splattered by up to 926 civilians blood. Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 09:06, 9 October 2009 (UTC

Just trying to grind up a solution, no accusation involved. But BashBrannigan suggestion is a middleway. No bold text and no Cast Lead. I understand he will drop the bold text if Im right. Cant you accept BashBrannigan:s? Its attractive to me as 'Cast Lead is a name splattered by up to 926 civilians blood

No bold text and no Cast Lead. Its attractive to me as 'Cast Lead is a name splattered by up to 926 civilians blood

btw have you read [13]

As I said last time, dont let Jiujitsuguy manipulate you. Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 23:58, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Please note, I'm a 17 year old high school student so I can't do anything other than offer you advice for you to follow. Please consult more "experienced and mature" editor on the IRC. Hope you understand. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 01:13, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Then you shouldnt involve yourself in mediation/arbitration If you dont have time/means to handle it. It can create more problems than you try to adress. Mr Unsigned Anon (talk) 05:12, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Protected by Symantec

Category:Protected by Symantec, which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. VegaDark (talk) 03:56, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

B07 DLR stock interior

Hope the new pic image:B07_09_DLR_stock_interior.JPG is good enough! best, Sunil060902 (talk) 01:36, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

It looks good. Lets see what others say. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 09:58, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Mr Unsigned Anon

The last message u left on my talk page was whether I can provide u with the Diffs that gave rise to my allegations against Mr Unsigned Anon. You indicated that based on those Diffs u may be able to have him blocked for disruptive editing. Before I was able to compile the list, I was blocked for 1 week by another admin becuase Anon alleged that I violated 3R policy. I wasn't even given an opportunity to respond. In any event, I've compiled the list of Diffs you requested.

Here [[14]] he is warned to stop engaging in disruptive reverts.

Here [[15]] he makes inquiries about my race.

Here [[16]] he accuses me of working for the Israeli government and also makes derogatory accusations based on alleged demographics.

Here [[17]] he asks me about the weather in Brooklyn based on his belief that I live there.

Here [[18]] he makes reference to my bank account on the Gaza discussion page.

Here [[19]] he taunts me to engage him in an edit war.

And they block me. I am asking that you intervene and at the very least, impose the same sanction on him. It doesn't make a difference if you're 17 or 77, you have the ability to address overt racism and disruptive editing practices.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 04:34, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

I did. But lost :-( I brought this issue up to the Abritary enforcement committe but they just said Unsigned Anon to not take the bait. Anyhoo I'm not an admin so I can't block Unsigned. Therefore, you better contact the other admins through the IRC channel. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 13:38, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

np tx anyway.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 17:54, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Editor Review

I have done a review - sorry you've had to wait so long for one. (As a reminder, the review page is here)

Please note that I have tried to be as fair as possible. I spent a long time looking at your contributions, etc. I hope you don't feel that I have been too harsh - in a review, the aim is to show the positive and the not-so-positive, so that an editor can improve!

If you have any questions or comments, feel free to leave them here, as this page is on my watchlist.

Regards, -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:53, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

DLR article:Including the edits where I included the references? I significantly improved the article from a "crappy" article with no references to a decent C-grade article! --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 01:57, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I will respond here, rather than at the editor review. I have just looked over all the edits, in case I missed anything. Here they all are:

All your edits on the DLR article

Revision as of 17:13, 13 June 2008 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (Fixing spacing so the letter won't crash into the picture
Revision as of 17:14, 13 June 2008 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Future rolling stock) *same*
Revision as of 17:19, 13 June 2008 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *removed spacing again*
Revision as of 17:20, 13 June 2008 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added <br/>s
Revision as of 17:21, 13 June 2008 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *removed 2 of them* (rest removed in the next edit by another editor)
Revision as of 14:38, 2 July 2008 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Future rolling stock) *added image*
Revision as of 14:39, 2 July 2008 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Future rolling stock) *moved image*
Revision as of 14:40, 2 July 2008 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Future rolling stock) *changed image size*
Revision as of 14:44, 2 July 2008 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Future rolling stock) *changed image caption* (but this was altered on next edit by another editor)
Revision as of 11:23, 19 July 2008 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (Undid revision 224837645 by Natl1 (talk)) *reinserted an image* (which was then removed in the next edit by a bot as a deleted image)
Revision as of 23:13, 25 July 2008 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (Undid revision 227341602 by ImageRemovalBot (talk)) *put image back*
Revision as of 10:20, 29 July 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B2007 rolling stock) *added image*
Revision as of 10:21, 29 July 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B2007 rolling stock) *changed caption of image*
Revision as of 10:21, 29 July 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B2007 rolling stock) *changed image to thumbnail*
Revision as of 10:22, 29 July 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B2007 rolling stock) *changed image size*
Revision as of 23:04, 30 July 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (better layout - →P86/P89 rolling stock) *changed image size and placing*
Revision as of 23:08, 30 July 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (better display - →B2007 rolling stock) *moved location of 3 images*
Revision as of 23:10, 30 July 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *moved location of image*
Revision as of 23:11, 30 July 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B2007 rolling stock) *changed size of image*
Revision as of 23:13, 30 July 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Gallery) *changed size of gallery*
Revision as of 23:14, 30 July 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B2007 rolling stock) *changed size of image; removed another image*
Revision as of 23:15, 30 July 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *changed dimensions of gallery*
Revision as of 23:16, 30 July 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Gallery) *changed dimensions of gallery*
Revision as of 23:19, 30 July 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Gallery) *changed "perrow" param for gallery, added comment about how to add to gallery*
Revision as of 23:20, 30 July 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added expand tag *
Revision as of 18:09, 1 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (New info found in research of the B2007 model.) *added 1 sentence: "The software of the B2007 stock are full of bugs and very quite unstable. The often crashed stopping the train. For this reason the B2007 were unreliable; therefore, there aren't many of this model in service."*
Revision as of 23:20, 1 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B2007 rolling stock) *changed sentence to "The new model were generally safer than the older model they were replacing. One example is that the software of the new model could detect whether there are something pushing against the doors and automatically open. On the otherhand with the older models the person was generally fighting against the force of the closing doors. However, the software of the new trains were riddled with bugs and quite unstable. The often crashed stopping the train. For this reason the B2007 were unreliable; therefore, there aren't many of this model in service. DLR are fixing the problem and slowly introducing the new trains into service. In addition to the software of the new train being unstable, the new train also rocked more than the old model. This is because the new trains had two soft compressors while the older trains only had one.^{[citation needed]}" added "They has the maximum speed of 100 km, but in reality the fastest speed traveled is 80 km on the route in the tunnel under the thames river to and from Woolwich Arsenal."
Revision as of 11:51, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (info box) *added infobox, added "There are currently three different models of DLR rolling stocks: * P86/89 * B90/B92/B2K rolling stock * B2007 rolling stock"; moved image*
Revision as of 12:03, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *changed background colour of infobox*
Revision as of 12:03, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *changed background colour of infobox*
Revision as of 12:04, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *changed background colour of infobox*
Revision as of 12:13, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added interior image to infobox*
Revision as of 12:33, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added 2 more bits of info to infobox*
Revision as of 12:33, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added or removed space in infobox*
Revision as of 12:37, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *corrected 2 typos; added 2 more bits of info to the infobox*
Revision as of 12:39, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (changing color of info box)
Revision as of 12:50, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *changed B2007 to B07 (11 times); added 3 bit of info to infobox plus corrected one bit of info*
Revision as of 12:53, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→007 rolling stock) *added "improvements" plus categories
Revision as of 12:54, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→007 rolling stock) *corrected typo 007 -> B07*
Revision as of 12:55, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *put categories in right place*
Revision as of 13:07, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added some info to infobox plus 4 citations*
Revision as of 13:15, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added 4 bits of info to infobox plus citations*
Revision as of 14:43, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *amended 1 infobox info*
Revision as of 15:51, 3 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added underconstruction tag*
Revision as of 09:36, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *moved maximum speed info*
Revision as of 10:25, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Gallery) *added pictures to gallery*
Revision as of 10:26, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Gallery) *corrected typo*
Revision as of 10:27, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Gallery) *added a full stop to caption in gallery*
Revision as of 10:37, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B90/B92/B2K rolling stock) *changed image location from right to left*
Revision as of 10:44, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B07 rolling stock) *added citation for improvements*
Revision as of 10:45, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *corrected typo in citation*
Revision as of 10:48, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B90/B92/B2K rolling stock) *changed word currently -> still*
Revision as of 10:50, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *wikilink for "DLR"; changed "rock" -> "shake"*
Revision as of 14:48, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (improvingcaption - →Gallery)
Revision as of 17:02, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B07 rolling stock) *reworded improvements section*
Revision as of 17:10, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added short paragraph about shaking problem, plus citation*
Revision as of 17:10, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *removed ^^ characters and 1 blank line*
Revision as of 18:11, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (too much image in article. Put additional images in gallery) *moved one image from article into gallery*
Revision as of 22:36, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added 2 images*
Revision as of 22:37, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *corrected /ref> -> </ref>*
Revision as of 22:38, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B90/B92/B2K rolling stock) *moved image*
Revision as of 22:42, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added citation for collectionmethod*
Revision as of 22:49, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added name to citation*
Revision as of 22:49, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *corrected citation name*
Revision as of 22:53, 4 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added citation for safety, plus adding "(PSA)"*
Revision as of 03:04, 5 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B90/B92/B2K rolling stock) *changed image location from right to left*
Revision as of 03:05, 5 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B90/B92/B2K rolling stock) *moved an image*
Revision as of 03:06, 5 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Gallery) *corrected wikilink plus changed a couple of words*
Revision as of 12:07, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added a couple of wikilinks, and explained that DLR serves the Docklands*
Revision as of 12:08, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) m (moved Docklands Light Railway rolling stock to Docklands Light Railway electric multiple unit: Hopefully better name)
Revision as of 12:17, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) m (moved Docklands Light Railway electric multiple unit to Docklands Light Railway electric multiple units)
Revision as of 12:20, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added inuse tag*
Revision as of 12:26, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *corrected wikilink; added mention of 3-carriage capacity*
Revision as of 12:29, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B07 rolling stock) *changed ref name*
Revision as of 12:32, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added another citation*
Revision as of 12:36, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added ref names*
Revision as of 12:37, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *changed ref name*
Revision as of 12:38, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) m (moved Docklands Light Railway electric multiple units to Docklands Light Railway electric multiple unit over redirect)
Revision as of 12:46, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added or removed a space*
Revision as of 12:47, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *removed inuse tag*
Revision as of 12:59, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *moved a couple of sentences around*
Revision as of 13:07, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Problems suffered) *added a comment*
Revision as of 13:28, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Problems suffered) *reworded comment to make it more suitable; added software bugs, along with originalresearch tag*
Revision as of 13:33, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Problems suffered) *reworded software bug paragraph*
Revision as of 18:33, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *removed 2 images*
Revision as of 18:37, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *changed 3 words to sound better* (this was undone in the next edit by another editor)
Revision as of 19:29, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *reworded 1 sentence*
Revision as of 21:46, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added commonscat*
Revision as of 21:46, 8 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Gallery) *changed commonscat*
Revision as of 21:07, 10 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *changed maxspeed*
Revision as of 21:11, 10 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (new ref)
Revision as of 21:12, 10 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *corrected ref*
Revision as of 21:13, 10 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added refname*
Revision as of 21:16, 10 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (add comment)
Revision as of 21:19, 10 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B90/B92/B2K rolling stock) *changed location of image*
Revision as of 21:23, 10 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (removing extra "info". If you conser than necessary, please incoperate them in the relevent section using prose format.) *removed car dimensions*
Revision as of 21:29, 10 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *changed maxspeed*
Revision as of 21:31, 10 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *changed speed note*
Revision as of 21:32, 10 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *removed test*
Revision as of 10:58, 12 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *reworded speed notes*
Revision as of 19:41, 12 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Problems suffered) *added 6 words to sentences*
Revision as of 21:19, 13 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (Undoing possible vandalism! Undid revision 307755599 by 90.192.252.38 (talk))
Revision as of 14:16, 17 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (done construction :-)) *removed underconstruction tag*
Revision as of 12:00, 19 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *changed wikilink; removed size on image*
Revision as of 12:02, 19 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B07/09 rolling stock) *removed sizes on 2 images*
Revision as of 12:03, 19 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B07/09 rolling stock) *change location of image*
Revision as of 12:04, 19 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (removing non-uk image- →P86/P89 rolling stock)
Revision as of 12:04, 19 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Gallery) *added image to gallery*
Revision as of 12:06, 19 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (moving picture)
Revision as of 12:12, 19 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added sp=us to converts*
Revision as of 12:13, 19 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B07/09 rolling stock) *added a full stop and a <*
Revision as of 12:17, 19 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *altered 2 captions*
Revision as of 12:19, 19 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (ref) *added refname*
Revision as of 12:20, 19 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *bolded article name in lead*
Revision as of 12:22, 19 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Gallery) *changed gallery image*
Revision as of 03:53, 27 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *changed 2 wikilinks*
Revision as of 03:56, 27 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→B07/09 rolling stock) *changed 3 words*
Revision as of 03:57, 27 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *added to sentence about 2 types being in operation*
Revision as of 09:11, 29 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Passenger stock – overview) *added an image*
Revision as of 09:13, 29 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Passenger stock – overview) *added to image caption*
Revision as of 09:16, 29 August 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (→Gallery) *added image*
Revision as of 09:57, 28 October 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) *changed interiorimage*
Revision as of 09:57, 28 October 2009 Tyw7 (talk | contribs) (moving pic to infobox)

To be honest, the vast majority of those are minor edits, and the few that were not were generally either removed later on, or significantly reworded by other editors.

Yes, the addition of references was good - but it did not raise the level of the article. You say that you "significantly improved the article from a "crappy" article with no references to a decent C-grade article!" Well, if you look at the history on the talk page, you will see that when you made your first edit (17:13, 13 June 2008), the quality of the article (as shown on the version of the talk page here was "B-Class" with High Importance for WikiProject London Transport. On 12:08, 29 July 2009, you changed it to "start class" for WPLT (see here), at 14:24, 29 July 2009 you changed it to start-class and mid-importance for WikiProject Trains (see here); You decided (13:01, 8 August 2009 here) that it should be in American English - I'm not sure why you did this, as firstly I didn't see a concensus about it, plus it's about the British DLR - so surely it should be British English. Finally at 19:03, 15 August 2009 (see here) the article is reassessed as C-Class by Pyrotec - whose assessment I happen to agree with.

However this means that the article has not improved, but declined (from B-Class which is the step below GA status, to C-Class which is the step below C-Class (i.e. two steps below GA) and one step above start-class).

If your comment "I significantly improved the article from a "crappy" article with no references to a decent C-grade article!" was to be part of an RfA, it would not take anyone at the RfA very long to see that it had gone down to a C-grade from a B-grade - and that you did not recognise that a C-grade is below a B-grade article... and that would be before they even looked at your edits on the article and saw that they were mainly minor edits.

Anyway, I thought I'd say all this here - I've just spent almost 3 hours looking through all those edits, and typing up the summary here - longer than I spent on the original review I did! Now I can (belatedly) go to bed!

Happy editing -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 03:58, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Re: Pictures

The images do not qualify for free use as the photographer and production company that produced them did not release them under a free license, they have the images under copyright. We will only use a copyrighted file if it is absolutely needed and there is no chance that a free image could take it's place. This isn't a matter of what you do and don't believe, this is a matter of legality. Feel free to add the pictures of the cast members found on their respective pages. These images have been released under a free license and this has been verified to be true, the images in question are not. It is explicitly stated that the image's are copyrighted. ς ح д r خ є 01:59, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Also, could you please give me a link to the page you are talking about? ς ح д r خ є 02:02, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

No. That image doesn't. It also has an improper source. We need a more official source, such as the official site. Free images can be found on the Commons. ς ح д r خ є 02:09, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

The attribution notice should go one the talk page, more references will be needed. Yes, that image is fine, remember to make sure it is rendered low resolution, otherwise, you can't use it. Upload the image and I will make sure everything is kosher. ς ح д r خ є 02:15, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Hm. that image may not be the best because of the writing. If I find a better image, I'll tell you. ς ح д r خ є 02:22, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use File:AlexRusso.jpg

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Nov Metro

The Metropolitan

The WikiProject London Transport Newsletter
Issue 19 - November 2009)

October | December?

London Transport News

For more information see: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/3119.aspx (most times)

Note: Oldest news items at bottom of list

November

Bendy buses to be removed from route 38 to be replaced by double-decker buses

New traffic light timings in Camden Town on trial, giving green light to those within speed limit and red light to speeders

Coca-cola to sponsor LU busking over Christmas period

new Surface Transport and Traffic Operations Centre opened by Duke of York

Brixton Hill gyratory removed

October

Hydrogen refuelling site to be built in east London for Hydrogen buses

Baby born on bus route 394

South Quay DLR station resited

Consultation on removing Tottenham Hale gyratory

First new 'S' Stock arrives

Automated payment proposed for congestion charging and also stopping fines for those who opt-in

Mayor tackles investement in transport network

Roadworks permit scheme introduced

River service between Greenwich and Woolwich extended to 2013

Pay offer for LU workers accepted by union after strike

Bank DLR platforms to close at Christmas for upgrade work

A few London Overground new British Rail Class 378 is seen in service.

The new Docklands Light Railway rolling stock B07/09 seen in service. In the past, this model has been a rare sight but now it is becomming common.

A new Cycle Hire scheme is introduced in London.

New report shows Countdown could be solution to pedestrian confusion at traffic lights

Route P13 has been revised to improve reliability for passengers

Member News

No new members to report.

This WikiProject would not be where it is today without each and every one of its members! Thank you to all!

General

There has been a general increase in articles. However again there is not much to report other than the Baker Street and Waterloo Railway a candidate for promotion to Good Article whilst British Airways was promoted. September has seen an increase in the number of articles as well as October. October so far has been eventful in other areas except for the assessment side during the start but it has been relatively quiet also in November.

On an assessment at the start of October the overall assessment showed that there were 41% of articles that had no assessment of quality or importance rating at all. This seems to be getting worse compatred to to the start of the year when this figure was only at 25%.

On the Portal, the most active areas seem to be the voting and changing of the selected pictures and articles. The transport news seems to be infrequently updated with the most up-to-date news being in this newsletter! Did you know is now being improved.

As usual all suggestions to improving the Metropolitan are welcome so if you have one we would be happy to hear from you.

This month's selected image

The original Hampton Court Bridge in 1753, the first of four on the site.

This month's gallery of images (added by User:Tyw7)

Two B07/09 rolling stock next to an older B92 rolling stock at the Poplar DLR depot next to Poplar DLR Station.
A B90 stock pulling into Pontoon Dock DLR station.
A British Rail Class 378 no. 007 awaiting departure at Richmond station (London)
The interior of a London Overground owned British Rail Class 378 put into service on the East London Line.
First generation Docklands Light Railway rolling stock (P86) stock in original livery, September 1987
The control desk of a Docklands Light Railway rolling stock. This control desk is usually closed.

From the editor

Tyw7 has contributed well to the previous edition with the addition of a gallery section which may be present in future editions as well as updating the transport news. Thank you for this. Any suggestions welcome for also updating of images.

Huge thank you to DavidCane for helping to reorganising of the whole project after little response on the status on various pages from a few months ago.

Contributors to this Issue

Simply south (talk) - (Editor and Distibutor)

Improving Wikipedia one edit at a time!

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Cleanup : Lists of articles needing cleanup
Expand : These top 10 favourite articles to Good Article: J. P. Morgan · Heathrow Airport · River Thames · London Bridge · London Underground · London Bridge (Lake Havasu City) · Gatwick Airport · London Congestion Charge · Tube map · Tower Bridge These top importance articles to Good Article: 7 July 2005 London bombings · Buses in London · Crossrail · London Passenger Transport Board · London Transport (brand) · London Transport Museum · Transport for London · Transport in London
Photo : Upload your non-copyrighted London transportation images to Wikimedia Commons
Stubs : Improve a stub article
Update : London low emission zone, London congestion charge
Other :
- Suggest: A Did You Know...? fact here or an Anniversary fact here.
- Patrol: Recent changes
- Join: Become a member of WikiProject London Transport or encourage others

Assessment

Featured Articles & Lists

FAC/FLC
None

Good Articles

GAC

Baker Street and Waterloo Railway

A
None

Other assessment notes

British Airways was promoted to Good Article status in early November. Well done to all involved.

New article Baker Street and Waterloo Railway is nominated for Good Article

Isambard Kingdom Brunel has been under featured article review.

Other announcements

Tyw7 requests help with improving Docklands Light Railway rolling stock

MRSC requests help with improving North and West London Light Railway and West London Orbital

WikiProject London Transport has been added to a project that has generated a list of the most visited pages related to this project. These can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject London Transport/Favourite pages.

File:Thames Tunnels.svg requested to be updated

Did you know...

...that the Underground's architect Charles Holden and LPTB Managing Director Frank Pick were both sons of drapers?
...that Blackfriars Underground station (opened 1870) pre-dates the main line station by sixteen years?
...that the Westway, the West Cross Route and the East Cross Route are the only parts of the GLC's 1960s plan for the London Motorway Box that were built?
...that prior to the transfer of most of the route to the Central line in 1947, the Fairlop Loop saw circular services running from Liverpool Street to Stratford to Ilford to Woodford to Stratford to Liverpool Street?
...that Belsize Park station is one of the only eight stations in London to have a deep level bomb shelter beneath it?
…that Mile End tube station is the only station on the London Underground network from which it is possible to reach any other station with only a single change of train?
...that Greenford station has the only remaining wooden escalator on the London Underground?
...that There are only two tube stations which have all five vowels in them - Mansion House station and South Ealing station.
...that the Docklands Light Railway rolling stock is capable of travelling 100 km/h (62 mph)?
... that after World War II, designs of the London Transport brand were simplified to reduce manufacturing and maintenance costs?
... that that the London Underground's Baker Street and Waterloo Railway was built so Londoners could get to cricket matches?

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December Metro

The Metropolitan

The WikiProject London Transport Newsletter
Issue 20 - December 2009)

November | January

London Transport News

For more information see: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/3119.aspx (most times)

Note: Oldest news items at bottom of list

December

ING direct will sponsor free travel on the Underground at New Year's Eve

Maida Vale tube station received the National Rail Heritage Award due to its modernisation

November

Blackwall Tunnel temporarily closed because a vehicle caught fire

A new ticket hall is installed at Kings Cross St Pancras station giving a 30 per cent increase in capacity with more entrances and escalators as well as lifts installed giving most of the remaining lines at this station step-free access for disabled passengers. The exception to this is the Northern Line with works still occurring until mid 2010.

New bridges installed at Limehouse station to provide easier interchange between DLR and National Rail services

A new campaign is launched warning Londoners of unbooked minicabs.

South Croydon railway station is to cut its power from the National Grid and instead have its CCTV and lighting powered by solar panels to be installed. This is part of an effort to go green and have a big cut in carbon emissions

The Docklands Light Railway celebrates 10 years of its Lewisham extension

Oyster Pay As You Go now accepted on Thames Clipper services

Oyster Pay As You Go to be accepted on all National Rail services in London from 2 January 2010

The TfL Lost Property Office has donated a lot of new toys to the Salvation Army to help disadvantaged children in south London

During the festive period, London Overground will be operating extra services on Saturdays to help Christmas shoppers

Bendy buses to be removed from route 38 to be replaced by double-decker buses

New traffic light timings in Camden Town on trial, giving green light to those within speed limit and red light to speeders

Coca-cola to sponsor LU busking over Christmas period

new Surface Transport and Traffic Operations Centre opened by Duke of York

Brixton Hill gyratory removed

Member News

No new members to report.

This WikiProject would not be where it is today without each and every one of its members! Thank you to all!

General

Baker Street and Waterloo Railway was promoted to good article. Well done to DavidCane. This now also on as a candidate for featured article. Otherwise this month has been again fairly quiet. The portal went through a candidacy for featured portal with not much luck. The areas of the portal are becoming more active with the voting and changing of the selected pictures and articles. The transport news seems has started to be updated again but with the most up-to-date news being in this newsletter. Did you know is being improved.

As usual all suggestions to improving the Metropolitan are welcome so if you have one we would be happy to hear from you.

This month's selected image

This month's gallery of images (added by User:Sunil060902)

Stratford International station opened for Southeastern preview services on 30 November 2009.
Westbound platforms at Stratford International.
The new northern entrance and ticket hall at King's Cross St. Pancras tube station opened on 29 November 2009.
The new northern ticket hall at King's Cross St. Pancras tube station.
The footbridge linking the mainline (c2c) and DLR platforms at Limehouse station opened in late November 2009.
The new South Quay DLR station opened on 26 October 2009.
South Quay new station platforms looking west.
The bay platform at Mudchute DLR station opened in early October 2009.

From the editor

I am sorry for the previous editions for being late as well as this one due to being busy

Thank you to Sunil060902 for the gallery update

If you think there is anything else i have missed, please drop me a note or leave a message at The Metropolitan's feedback page. Also if you feel you want to do an edition, again leave me a message.

Contributors to this Issue

Simply south (talk) - (Editor and Distibutor)

Sunil060902 (talk) - Guest gallery updater

Improving Wikipedia one edit at a time!

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Cleanup : Lists of articles needing cleanup
Expand : These top 10 favourite articles to Good Article: J. P. Morgan · Heathrow Airport · River Thames · London Bridge · London Underground · London Bridge (Lake Havasu City) · Gatwick Airport · London Congestion Charge · Tube map · Tower Bridge These top importance articles to Good Article: 7 July 2005 London bombings · Buses in London · Crossrail · London Passenger Transport Board · London Transport (brand) · London Transport Museum · Transport for London · Transport in London
Photo : Upload your non-copyrighted London transportation images to Wikimedia Commons
Stubs : Improve a stub article
Update : London low emission zone, London congestion charge
Other :
- Suggest: A Did You Know...? fact here or an Anniversary fact here.
- Patrol: Recent changes
- Join: Become a member of WikiProject London Transport or encourage others

Assessment

Featured Articles & Lists

FAC/FLC

Baker Street and Waterloo Railway

Good Articles

GAC
None

A
None

Other assessment notes

Baker Street and Waterloo Railway was promoted to Good Article status in early November. Well done to all involved.

Isambard Kingdom Brunel was demoted from featured article status in mid-November.

Portal:London Transport was nominated for featured portal status with no success

The percentage of article assessed remains roughly the same as in October

Other announcements

Tyw7 requests help with improving Docklands Light Railway rolling stock

MRSC requests help with improving North and West London Light Railway and West London Orbital

WikiProject London Transport has been added to a project that has generated a list of the most visited pages related to this project. These can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject London Transport/Favourite pages.

requested to be updated

A discussion arose over the addition or removal to succession to the London Underground lines and their histories

Transport categories (and the other categories generally) were renamed for Kensington & Chelsea and Barking & Dagenham

Did you know...

...that the Underground's architect Charles Holden and LPTB Managing Director Frank Pick were both sons of drapers?
...that Blackfriars Underground station (opened 1870) pre-dates the main line station by sixteen years?
...that the Westway, the West Cross Route and the East Cross Route are the only parts of the GLC's 1960s plan for the London Motorway Box that were built?
...that prior to the transfer of most of the route to the Central line in 1947, the Fairlop Loop saw circular services running from Liverpool Street to Stratford to Ilford to Woodford to Stratford to Liverpool Street?
...that Belsize Park station is one of the only eight stations in London to have a deep level bomb shelter beneath it?
…that Mile End tube station is the only station on the London Underground network from which it is possible to reach any other station with only a single change of train?
...that Greenford station has the only remaining wooden escalator on the London Underground?
...that There are only two tube stations which have all five vowels in them - Mansion House station and South Ealing station.
...that the Docklands Light Railway rolling stock is capable of travelling 100 km/h (62 mph)?
... that after World War II, designs of the London Transport brand were simplified to reduce manufacturing and maintenance costs?
... that that the London Underground's Baker Street and Waterloo Railway was built so Londoners could get to cricket matches?

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If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of "file" pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Skier Dude (talk) 08:11, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

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Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:MisterWiki/Happy Holidays}} to your friends' talk pages.

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The Great Wikipedia Dramaout

Hi! As you have expressed an interest in the initial The Great Wikipedia Dramaout, you're being notified because we are currently planning another one in January! We hope to have an even greater level of participation this time around, and we need your help. If you're still interested please sign up now at Wikipedia:The Great Wikipedia Dramaout/2nd. Thanks, and Happy Holidays! JCbot (talk) 04:45, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

About your Admin Coaching request

Your submission at Admin Coaching has been removed from the request list.

This is because you have not visited the page for at least 6 months (or your account has been inactive for at least 4 months).

You are welcome to re-submit a request should you wish to, but please note that you are expected to regularly check the page (and to update the "last visited" field of your request). If you do re-submit, please carefully re-read the instructions for submission as they may have changed since you last visited!

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Re: Vandalism

Sorry, I'll take a step back. ;) Brianga (talk) 02:42, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

WP:TW. Brianga (talk) 02:45, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

Copyright violation

The episode summary that you restored to Hannah Montana (season 3) here, is a clear and blatant copyright violation of TVGuide which is why it was removed in the first place. I indicated that in my edit summary.[20]. Please do not restore the offending content to the article. --AussieLegend (talk) 04:18, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought you removed due to the lack of references. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 19:18, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

WWE Raw edit.

I made an edit adding that WWE Raw is the longest running show to have NOT taken a hiatus, and you changed it back. It is very misleading to plainly say that Raw is the longest running show when it is clearly not. Within the body of the page it mentions the hiatus aspect and it should show the same in the introduction to adhere to accuracy.

Thank you 98.77.98.37 (talk) 22:13, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Talkback: Huggle Feedback: Userboxes

Hello, Tyw7. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Huggle/Feedback.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

— Spike Toronto 22:55, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Wrong

Try again, I was not the one who vandalized. Look in the edit history, 72.207.63.191, it was that user. Thanks though.(MDesjardinss (talk) 00:11, 25 December 2009 (UTC))

On Floyd Mayweather Jr.(MDesjardinss (talk) 00:20, 25 December 2009 (UTC))

I was using huggle, which makes it difficult to find out who vandalized the page. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 00:21, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok it's all good man. I warned the other user for vandalism because I noticed I was not the one who put coward in the page.(MDesjardinss (talk) 00:24, 25 December 2009 (UTC))

2nd Time

You did it again. I was removed unsourced information. Maybe huggle is causing this?(MDesjardinss (talk) 01:43, 25 December 2009 (UTC))

Hello, Tyw7. You have new messages at MDesjardinss's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Speedy deletion declined: Irritable male syndrome

Hello Tyw7, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Irritable male syndrome - a page you tagged - because: criterion A7 does not apply to a term or concept. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. decltype (talk) 15:28, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Your signature

is great, but looks funny at AIV - "vandalism .. Changing the world one edit at a time!". When I first saw it, I was sleepy and thought a vandal I know (who was changing one byte/article/second) has returned :-). Merry Christmas and thanks for your help. Materialscientist (talk) 23:03, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

No, he didn't use the motto, but his spirit was quite same (claiming he's improving WP). Materialscientist (talk) 23:08, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

No, I fight bare hands :-) Materialscientist (talk) 23:11, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

A centipede was asked "why do you put 39th foot after 38th while walking" - she started thinking and stumbled - is the answer about Huggle. Materialscientist (talk) 23:17, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Welcoming

{{help}} Is it encouraged to welcome all new editors I come accross when using huggle?--Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 23:26, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, there was even a proposal recently to have a bot do that. I'm getting lost in welcoming templates and still use old {{welcome}}, but there are much better looking ones (not that above though). Materialscientist (talk) 23:31, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

You should welcome all editors who have made helpful contributions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fetchcomms (talk • contribs)

A tip: template {{unsigned|User}} will produce a "signature" of a user - useful on some pages. Materialscientist (talk) 23:38, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

That's going to be a lot of people to welcome xP. I believe most vandalism warnings include a welcome of some sort, but that leaves out the good editors. Netalarmhappy holidays! 23:47, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Possible spam linking user

What do you think should be done with this user? This user has a history of "advertising" that organization, but I'm still hesitant to use the rollback all button. What do you think? Netalarmhappy holidays! 23:48, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't know :X How about asking at the IRC? http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=wikipedia-en-help

--Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 23:50, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

When you look at the About page at Obscure Sound, it is a blog written and maintained by one man. Despite being generally informative and well-written, as per WP:RS and WP:SELFPUBLISH, blogs are generally not considered to satisfy Wikipedia’s reliable sources policies. If it were a blog that is part of an actual media company (e.g., the ArtsBeat blog at The New York Times), then it might be considered a reliable source. At first glance, I think that Obscure Sound does not qualify.

Finally, as regards its placement in the External Links section of a wikiarticle, at WP:ELNO#11, the policy is that such links to blogs are not permitted, “except those written by a recognized authority.”

If you want to be really certain before deleting, try your query at WP:RSN. Thanks for letting me butt in! — Spike Toronto 00:15, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Haha, thanks for the input. I've reported the user too, and he has been blocked. I looked into this user, and it seems obvious that he's only here for spamming links to the blog. Now I have to begin a long process of removing all of their spam links in places where rollback all has failed... Cya guys around! Netalarmhappy holidays! 00:20, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: List of characters in Maximum Ride

Hello Tyw7, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of List of characters in Maximum Ride - a page you tagged - because: Not nonsense - there is meaningful content. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. decltype (talk) 02:28, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Outriggr

Outrigger and Outriggr are the same account. He's done a lot for Wikipedia, so let's let him maintain his user talk as he sees fit? Cheers, --JayHenry (talk) 01:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Clarification

Hey, all I'm asking is for clarification on the page Railroad ties. Why are you calling it unconstructive and reverting?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.244.173.9 (talk) 01:46, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

NFL Player Nickname edit reversals

Please turn off your edit robot on this page; I'm merely trying to fill in some gaps on the spreadsheet with information supplied on the players' own Wikipedia pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.193.158.181 (talk) 02:04, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

"4 chan" vandals

Please be more careful when reporting potential vandals to AIV. Several users you claim are 4 chan participants are apparently good-faith newbies. Thanks, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 02:53, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Again, you have continued to misuse rollback. If I come across any more misuse of the tool I will be revoking it. –Juliancolton | ^Talk 03:16, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

DO NOT REVERT MY MESSAGES

Thank you--Mamalala (talk) 03:17, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

???

Forgive me, I don't see what was unconstructive about it. The picture of Ali was inappropiate for the following reasons: It is not a real portrait of him and the beard shown isn't the recommended style in Islam. So you can see how that picture can mislead people. Whereas the picture I posted, was appropiate.--Theverdict111 (talk) 03:22, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Also, why did you remove my comment on the person's talk page? Isn't it up to him what he has on his page and not?--Theverdict111 (talk) 03:27, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh ok, no problem.--Theverdict111 (talk) 03:31, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

False Positive in Functionalism versus intentionalism

Put human eyes on it. You'll see. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pottsf (talk • contribs) 03:28, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Not Vandalism, Link Updating

You removed my edit from this page: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Clandestine_Insurgent_Rebel_Clown_Army , claiming it was vandalism. I was not at all vandalising anything. The link that is currently there is expired, and I was updating it with fresh, working links. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.212.188.234 (talk) 04:08, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

So...

...everybody else who points out your errors gets a nice little apology for the "false positive." I get four vandalism warnings on my Talk page. (And why were those edit summaries so much more polite and humble than the ones I got at Talk:Second city, anyway?) Whatever. And hey, what do you know: everyone agrees that the redirect you were so desperate to protect makes no effing sense! (Now, User:Pharaoh of the Wizards, can you at least let Tyw7 revert me himself this time?) 24.126.115.61 (talk) 04:11, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Iman (model)

Any reason you tagged the article for speedy? Just curious. C1k3 (talk) 05:57, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Gotcha. For the record, I didn't create the article; it's been on Wikipedia since 2003. C1k3 (talk) 07:38, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Sadness

Happy holidays Tyw7. I'm so sad. Generation Z will stop accepting new members in just around a few days. How time flies; jsut like palm of my hand I remember the last ball drop, and its preceding one. Good health to you (I'm was just as sick as a dog). 68.218.244.73 (talk) 04:58, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

"Personal attacks"?

Hey, buddy, how is accusing someone of vandalism for clearly acting in good faith not a personal attack? If you had left your nice little edit summary - "Hey, this is automated, let me know if it's a false positive!" I would have left a polite message on your Talk page, but you just kept reverting me--and threatening me with a block--for no reason without even acknowledging it was automated. I cannot believe you still won't admit how asinine that was. 24.126.115.61 (talk) 04:04, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

I would also be very intrigued to see your algorithm for deciding "Gee, thanks SO much for the friendly and well-considered note on my Talk page, but redirecting this page to Talk:List of second cities makes no sense whatsoever" is the sort of edit summary used by someone to commit vandalism. I think it appears to be the edit summary of someone who sees that something doesn't make sense and is trying to correct it and is annoyed at being interrupted for no reason, but hey, I'm biased. (Note that I am still assuming the whole interaction was automated, except for the removal of my notification to you on your Talk page, simply because I presume a thinking person would a) recognize the problem and b) if they actually disagreed, would leave a helpful edit summary addressing the dispute. Not that I think it's remotely acceptable to send four automated vandalism warnings without ever checking their validity. Does the human element come in when you actually put in the block request? Is that why I'm still not blocked?) 24.126.115.61 (talk) 04:12, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see now: I was reported, you didn't bother to notify me of the report, and it was dismissed one minute later. Bravo. 24.126.115.61 (talk) 04:16, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of my edits w/o checking updated sources.

You have repeatedly deleted my edits to The Stig's page. Each successive time I added further references, but judging by the speed of deletion, you failed to take notice. Please restrain yourself from your self-righteous conquest to eliminate "vandalism." Read the Wikipedia definition of Vandalism, then explain how it relates to my actions.

Please don't be a prick.

 -SakanaAtama (talk) 06:56, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Nope (if anyone's reviewing a new RFA for this guy, they should check this out)

Check out the edit history. Yes, your edit summary included a tiny "(HG)" linking to Huggle at the end of what otherwise appears to be the standard automated revert summary; you can't possibly think that's sufficient to indicate that you're removing vandalism using an Anti-Vandal tool, and that if this is a false positive I should assume good faith and kindly tell you about it. In fact, I know you don't think that the (HG) is sufficient, because for most of your other edits you spell out that message quite clearly!

When I saw you'd responded on my Talk page, here's what I thought I might find: an explanation of what happened (that the whole process was automated, or that you simply weren't paying enough attention, or something else) and particularly of why you used no real edit summary; a brief apology for the hassle; and some vague assurance (perhaps completely empty but with at least a courteous air of sincerity) that you would try to avoid similar mistakes in the future. (A note and/or strike-out indicating that the warnings you gave me are total BS would also have been nice.) Instead, you chose to tell me it was my fault for somehow randomly picking the wrong words in my edit summary, and also my fault because I was less than completely gracious in the face of your thoroughly rude and unwarranted harassment and attempts to have me blocked. I don't know if this kind of crap is why your previous RFAs failed, but I'll be looking out for your next one. 24.126.115.61 (talk) 19:01, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Editing through edit conflicts

Hey, Tyw7. When dropping an in use template on an article, it's best practice to check the edit history to ensure someone else isn't already actively editing the article at that time. If someone is, as in the case of NuclearWarfare on The End of Time, you should wait a bit, or message them to request they let you know when they're done. Also, if you encounter an edit conflict, do not save your edit over theirs. It undoes all of their work. Let me know if you have any questions. Lara ☁ 02:11, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Tyw7. You have new messages at Edokter's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

--Kwekubo (talk) 03:11, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

IP override

{{help}} Who removed my ability to edit from a blocked ip? And why? --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 03:58, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

This fetchcomms☛ 04:02, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Please use Window Clippings for capturing images

Yes. You do have Aero, so please use Window Clippings to capture high-quality images.

Reasons:

Preserve alpha transparency (Your images do have)

Also include windows's shadow (which is a part of Aero, it felt original)

Recommended by everyone :)

OK, Keep doing your way, as you feel right.

Tuanese (talk) 08:23, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chronology of the Doctor Who universe

Hi Tyw, I noticed that you performed a non-admin closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chronology of the Doctor Who universe. However, there are several reasons why this may not have been a good idea:

There is no unanimous, or even near-unanimous consensus in the debate
The AfD has only run for one and a half day
You are not impartial as you have participated in the debate yourself.

I have therefore re-opened the debate. For more information about when it's appropriate to do a non-admin closure, see WP:DPR#NAC. The WP:NAC essay may also contain information you may find useful. Regards, decltype (talk) 13:36, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I thought it was uanimous cause there are only three votes for delete and 10 votes for keep. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 14:08, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I see. Still, consensus is judged not only by the number of comments in favor of keep / delete, and you should not close debates in which you participated yourself. Also, debates normally run for at least seven days. decltype (talk) 14:19, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

So how to determine whether a vote is unanimous or not? In addition, if a vote is inclined to keep, it is not considered unanimous? --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 14:32, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Tyw7, the short answer is that you should not be closing AfD debates. Try reading the rules. You'll find it helpsElen of the Roads (talk) 14:36, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Compactibility view

{{helpme}} How to force IE8 to display this page in compactablity view: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Software? The meta tag method doesn't work. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 15:01, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Can't really help you there. I never use it. But I'll do some web searching to see if I turn up anything. -- Matthew Glennon (^T/_C\^D) 15:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

This may help (Introducing Compatibility View). There is info on setting it for your-self and for everyone. Although I think this method is the one that failed for you. Please let me know if it helped you! --Stroppolo^talk 16:19, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

I know HOW to turn on compibility view on MY computer but I read that there is a way to force OTHER browsers to display the page using compactibility view. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 21:50, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it is explained on the link i've given. You have to do it via the meta tags, thus I'm not sure you can play with them on Wikipedia(I left the help banner). --Stroppolo^talk 21:54, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Given the difficulty, I would advise against it. Instead look at what effect you're trying to achieve and how it can be rendered correctly in the browser that isn't working; forcing a particular browser to operate in a particular way isn't a long-term solution to a rendering issue. Josh Parris 22:42, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Make sure you're searching for compatibility view (not any of the variants you've typed above - this is not a crack at you, search engines have no sense and don't pick up on when you've accidentally used the wrong word the way a real live human does). However, it's generally not considered good form in internet accessibility circles to attempt to force a browser to operate in a quirky way to fix a rendering problem, as it can prevent people from using accessibility options in the browser, 3rd party accessibility software, or certain hardware.Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:48, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

New Year Metro

The Metropolitan

The WikiProject London Transport Newsletter
Issue 21 - January 2010)

December 2009 | February

London Transport News

For more information see: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/media/3119.aspx (most times)

Note: Oldest news items at bottom of list

January 2010

East London Line extension nearly complete

Rotherhithe Tunnel to close from Sunday to Thursday nights for the next three weeks for installation of pedestrian signage, power cables and additional pollution monitoring equipment.

December 2009

Oyster Pay-as-you-go introduced across all London stations in early January

Wrightbus to build the routemaster-based new London bus design

RMT accepts London Underground's staff payment deal

Closure of Fareham Street means bus diversions. This is so that there can be construction works on the Crossrail interchange at Tottenham Court Road station.

Arbiter finds that costs of Tube Lines upgrade closer to London Underground ltd estimate than theirs.

Leigible London scheme introduced to make information more available for pedestrians. This is first being used in the borough of Richmond upon Thames

When the London cycle hire scheme is launched, the first half hour will be free

Over £3 million to be spent on improving loca transport in Merton borough and other funding allocated to ther boroughs across London for transport improvements

Borough High Street to be northbopund only untril July due to major utility and gas works

Redevelopment of Tottenham Court Road to begin in early 2010

Permits for roadworks to be introduced on January 11th 2010

ING direct sponsor free travel on the Underground at New Year's Eve

Maida Vale tube station received the National Rail Heritage Award due to its modernisation

Member News

No new members to report.

This WikiProject would not be where it is today without each and every one of its members! Thank you to all!

General

Baker Street and Waterloo Railway is now a candidate for featured article. Otherwise this and the last last couple of months have again been fairly quiet. The portal went through a candidacy for featured portal with not much luck. The areas of the portal are becoming more active with the voting and changing of the selected pictures and articles. The transport news seems has started to be updated again but with the most up-to-date news being in this newsletter. Did you know is being improved.

As usual all suggestions to improving the Metropolitan are welcome so if you have one we would be happy to hear from you.

This month's selected image

View of Old London Bridge, circa 1632 by Claude de Jongh.

This month's gallery of images (added by User:Sunil060902)

Stratford International station opened for Southeastern preview services on 30 November 2009.
Westbound platforms at Stratford International.
The new northern entrance and ticket hall at King's Cross St. Pancras tube station opened on 29 November 2009.
The new northern ticket hall at King's Cross St. Pancras tube station.
The footbridge linking the mainline (c2c) and DLR platforms at Limehouse station opened in late November 2009.
The new South Quay DLR station opened on 26 October 2009.
South Quay new station platforms looking west.
The bay platform at Mudchute DLR station opened in early October 2009.

From the editor

Hello and Happy New Year from me and generally the London Transport project.

Thank you to Sunil060902 for the December gallery update

If you think there is anything else i have missed, please drop me a note or leave a message at The Metropolitan's feedback page. Also if you feel you want to do an edition, again leave me a message.

Again i would like to state this newsletter is looking for anyone willing to do an issue.

Contributors to this Issue

Simply south (talk) - (Editor and Distibutor)

Improving Wikipedia one edit at a time!

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Cleanup : Lists of articles needing cleanup
Expand : These top 10 favourite articles to Good Article: J. P. Morgan · Heathrow Airport · River Thames · London Bridge · London Underground · London Bridge (Lake Havasu City) · Gatwick Airport · London Congestion Charge · Tube map · Tower Bridge These top importance articles to Good Article: 7 July 2005 London bombings · Buses in London · Crossrail · London Passenger Transport Board · London Transport (brand) · London Transport Museum · Transport for London · Transport in London
Photo : Upload your non-copyrighted London transportation images to Wikimedia Commons
Stubs : Improve a stub article
Update : London low emission zone, London congestion charge
Other :
- Suggest: A Did You Know...? fact here or an Anniversary fact here.
- Patrol: Recent changes
- Join: Become a member of WikiProject London Transport or encourage others

Assessment

Featured Articles & Lists

FAC/FLC

Baker Street and Waterloo Railway

Good Articles

GAC
None

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None

Other assessment notes

Baker Street and Waterloo Railway is currently a featured article candidate. Well done to all involved.

Isambard Kingdom Brunel was demoted from featured article status in mid-November.

Portal:London Transport was nominated for featured portal status with no success

The percentage of article assessed remains roughly the same as in October

Other announcements

Tyw7 requests help with improving Docklands Light Railway rolling stock

MRSC requests help with improving North and West London Light Railway and West London Orbital

WikiProject London Transport has been added to a project that has generated a list of the most visited pages related to this project. These can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject London Transport/Favourite pages.

requested to be updated

Discussion arose over the addition or removal of succession boxes showing the present London Underground lines and their histories as well as former services. Another discussion arose on boxes showing stations layouts

Separate issues arose over the population of aboandoned London Undeground projects categories and categories on single station platforms

Did you know...

...that the Underground's architect Charles Holden and LPTB Managing Director Frank Pick were both sons of drapers?
...that Blackfriars Underground station (opened 1870) pre-dates the main line station by sixteen years?
...that the Westway, the West Cross Route and the East Cross Route are the only parts of the GLC's 1960s plan for the London Motorway Box that were built?
...that prior to the transfer of most of the route to the Central line in 1947, the Fairlop Loop saw circular services running from Liverpool Street to Stratford to Ilford to Woodford to Stratford to Liverpool Street?
...that Belsize Park station is one of the only eight stations in London to have a deep level bomb shelter beneath it?
…that Mile End tube station is the only station on the London Underground network from which it is possible to reach any other station with only a single change of train?
...that Greenford station has the only remaining wooden escalator on the London Underground?
...that There are only two tube stations which have all five vowels in them - Mansion House station and South Ealing station.
...that the Docklands Light Railway rolling stock is capable of travelling 100 km/h (62 mph)?
... that after World War II, designs of the London Transport brand were simplified to reduce manufacturing and maintenance costs?
... that that the London Underground's Baker Street and Waterloo Railway was built so Londoners could get to cricket matches?

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. Simply south (talk) 01:17, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

New Message "joke"

I saw some users imitating the "new message" bar on their talk page as a joke. Is this allowable? As long as I remember, there is a policy that says do not copy features of the Mediawiki software. Please clarify. --Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) Changing the world one edit at a time! 15:01, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

I do not believe it's against policy, per-se, just bad form. I'd appreciate a link to the talk page though. -- Matthew Glennon (^T/_C\^D) 15:21, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Now that I look at it, it's actually pretty cute. :D -- Matthew Glennon (^T/_C\^D) 15:29, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with it as such, it's just annoying as Hell. Just try and ignore it, and hope the people who use it stop doing so. J Milburn (talk) 16:36, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

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