User talk:Thine Antique Pen/Archive 1

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First to type a message here, using non-antique equimpment. I liked your old name better. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:08, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Heh. This is from Shakespeare. At least I still own Tomtomn00. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 12:09, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh.. I'm at the top of Google now. See this. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 12:14, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

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Hello, Thine Antique Pen. You have new messages at Deathlaser's talk page.
Message added 12:26, 20 May 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.[reply]

Deathlaser : Chat 12:26, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah can you give Deathlaser some guidance with ‎Mordellistena liljebladi.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 12:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

He's continuing to create others. I've spoken to him but he thinks we're attacking him.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:49, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Careful, Mordellistena lonai etc still have Costa, 1854 in the infobox..♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:03, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm... According to the source, it's correct. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:04, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What discovered in 1854 yet the body and category says 1949? Also, today's date is 20 May...♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:08, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I know. I'm blaming the template today! (temp.) — also, the 1854 bit is when the genus was attributed to the person, even if it was not complete. See this. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:12, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't think that.--Deathlaser : Chat 13:35, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Even if you were swearing at me I would not think that. I have No Emotions.--Deathlaser : Chat 13:36, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I arcknowledge what you say and my recent ones should be better.--Deathlaser : Chat 13:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Old account

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I see you used your old account since getting the new name. Please don't continue to do this. Only use the new name. LadyofShalott 13:30, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I need to change username on many wikis still, if I bother to. I was just checking if I could still log in, which I could. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:39, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't that sockpuppetry.--Deathlaser : Chat 13:44, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, first because I only made one edit — which was on my talk page confirming the rename for the diff for meta and commons to rename. It's going to become my public user someday. :) --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Don't get anyone else involved

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		The Anti-Flame Barnstar
		message As an apology, I hope you accept it and put the past behind.Deathlaser : Chat 16:17, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Forgot :) --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:49, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, am I forgiven.--Deathlaser : Chat 13:51, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Beetles

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Could you please take a look at my comment at: User_talk:Deathlaser#Stubs? Thanks Ruigeroeland (talk) 15:12, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looked. Mine just reach the stub barrier. I've listed deathlaser's article mistakes here. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 15:17, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so what should I be doing.--Deathlaser : Chat 15:22, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Why make a list anyway.--Deathlaser : Chat 15:26, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A list of things for me to correct. Something like this. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 15:40, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ray the beetle guy

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Hi. In your new beetle article (Pseudotomoxia albonotata) it says it was discovered by Ray. (I don't know whether it means he found it, classified it, or both.) It made me smile to read it though. I just get this mental picture of an enthusiastic guy named Ray, armed with a screwtop jar, hunting for insects! In reality he's simply got one of those surnames also used as a first name. I think, you're referring to naturalist Eugene Ray. --92.6.200.56 (talk) 17:47, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, Corrected. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 19:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(←) On a closer look I'm not sure if the whole taxonomy is right. :-\ Perhaps you could look into it. The list used as a ref seems unsure if it's a nom. praeocc., what it comes under or what to call it period. See also Tomoxioda, Tomoxia, Pseudotomoxia which overlap/relate. ITIS doesn't seem to think it exists. Also don't take this the wrong way...but I don't think Wikipedia:WikiProject Beetles is a genuine WikiProject. It was just a page created one day by a sockpuppet of an indef-blocked user. --92.6.200.56 (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Still, it's there. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 22:47, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes like the page "WikiProject Sauropodomorphs" he created the same day & the page "WikiProject Theropods" he created 2 days before, the page is there. --92.6.200.56 (talk) 22:53, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

United Kingdom roads

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If you are into roads, we could definitely do with having stubs filled into the redirects of all of the A roads of the UK in the articles of Template:United Kingdom roads. Ideally we'd have articles on all of the B roads too.. You could probably create some stubs using google maps to find length.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:49, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

BTW I spotted errors, Stenalia atricolor you claim 1926, 1957 and 1856 all in the same article!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:57, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Corrected — the Genus Authority doesn't matter I think, because it is the person and the date the Genus was attributed to them. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 18:07, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA reassessment of Jacobus Deketh

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FYI, a GA Reassessment of Jacobus Deketh has been opened, which you can find here. Malleus Fatuorum 19:36, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I saw it earlier on my watchlist. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 19:37, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Adele

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Still a bunch of dead links but the article is in a lot better shape then the slapdash nature of it at the beginning of the year. Nominating even if the article is not accepting helps clarify issues. Edkollin (talk) 19:54, 20 May 2012 (UTC) [reply]

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(talk page stalker)This reference: "'2009 American Music Awards' Nominees Announced". Reuters ("ABC"). 13 October 2009. Retrieved 13 October 2009, was added by tomtomn00 for the "Awards" section. It doesn't seem to mention Adele. Am I missing it? Also, this ref: "Artist Chart History – Adele". Billboard. Nielsen Business Media, Inc. Retrieved 4 February 2009..." Doesn't seem to support the mention that she has won "65 awards to date" (and, really, how could it if it was retrived almost 2 1/2 years ago!) I'll bite my tongue and assume good faith that they weren't just copied from List_of_awards_and_nominations_received_by_Adele (#s 3 and 1 respectively) without being checked first. Wikipelli ^Talk 20:48, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll rewrite and do some fixes when I have PC access.

Facepalm. -Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 21:00, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And did you really retrieve those back in 2009 and just waited until yesterday to add them to the article? Odd... Wikipelli ^Talk 21:43, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's an accessdate, so I often use it as today's date, or the date it was publically accessed. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 21:46, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's meant to be the date you looked at it. LadyofShalott 21:50, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As I say, I'll fix it up when I'm off my BB PlayBook and on my Mac again. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 21:55, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not at all sure what "the date it was publically accessed" means. There is no date at all on the Billboard site so I don't know how you arrived at the February 4, 2009 date. It is something of a coincidence that it's the same date that User:Another_Believer accessed the article when they created it back in 2009. Wikipelli ^Talk 22:16, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion does not serve any purpose now. LadyofShalott has informed Thine Antique Pen that the accessdate should be the date that he himself confirmed the reference. Thine Antique Pen has indicated he won't be able to change it until tomorrow. Nothing more to do here. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:25, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Corrected. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 07:47, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

SUL

(For French Wikipedia - usurp) — I confirm, I am Tomtomn00 globally and wish to rename myself. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 07:52, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Norfolk County Council

Hello! Your submission of Norfolk County Council at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Wikipelli ^Talk 11:46, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rewritten. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 12:50, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Always look in google books here. Also you can paste a book url into here and it will make a full ref for you to copy. I can show you how to program it into your itinerary if you like.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:05, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean? --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 18:07, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies

I'm really sorry - I've just realised that by leaving you that message yesterday I unwittingly gave you a lot of grief. If I had checked around a little bit more before writing it, I might have realised that the patrol log I saw was due to the autopatrolled user right, and saved you some of the hassle you got. My timing probably couldn't have been worse, with all the discussion at WP:AN and all those eyes on your talk page. So please accept my apologies for goofing up good and proper, and for causing you what must have been a lot of distress. Let me know if there's anything I can do to make it up to you. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 13:34, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing much you can do, it's done now, I was de-autopatrolled. So, nothing much.

. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:36, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Stud

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I wrote all those articles can you please review them.--Deathlaser : Chat 16:18, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See my comment on your talk first. Anyway, these are good for now. Carry on like that.

. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 16:19, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All the Pseudotomoxia ones.--Deathlaser : Chat 16:19, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. (I moved your comment). Oh, by the way, it's 'stub', not 'stud'.

--Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 16:21, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

By the way why were you de-auto-patrolled.--Deathlaser : Chat 16:52, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Per previous (ancient) history of article creations. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 16:54, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Give me the thread where this happened, tell me exactly what happened.--Deathlaser : Chat 17:01, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note, I was renamed recently, can't find diffs. It was over a history of around 4/5 articles (not what I make now, or have made in a while), out of my 750~. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 17:09, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See, we are not all perfect.--Deathlaser : Chat 17:05, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Your articles must have been really bad for your autopatrolled to be removed. What was it?--Deathlaser : Chat 17:07, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, it was technically never granted. I've requested a lot of userrights, and ended up with a topic ban from requesting them. I got nom'd by 3 editors for autopatrolled, was accepted, then removed per topic ban. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 17:09, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So why were you topic banned?--Deathlaser : Chat 17:10, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I said didn't I? I was topic banned from requesting userrights, which I have not done, I've only been nominated. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 17:11, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Technically never granted"!? My foot. I did grant it,and then found out I was in error to do so. Please don't lie about it. DeathLaser,see WP:AN#Help? and its subsections. LadyofShalott 17:12, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you didn't ask for it, but it was granted. LadyofShalott 17:13, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying to put it in a simple way. So technically it was granted, but without permission at AN, so was later removed. Confused myself now. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 17:16, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So all this time you were lying to me, or trying to "confuse" me. I will get someone else to review my articles.--Deathlaser : Chat 17:17, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, I confused 'myself'. Putting it in more advanced terms;

I was topic banned from requesting userrights
I was nominated for autopatrolled
I became autopatrolled
I went to WP:AN looking for help on the matter
I stated that I didn't care if it was removed
Removed, as I had not got permission from WP:AN to get the right.

--Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 17:19, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

you said "I was topic banned from requesting userrights" but why, are you trying to tell me people get topic banned like that for no reason.--Deathlaser : Chat 17:32, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This may be scary; I requested 36 userrights. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 17:35, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What were you thinking, user rights are not trophies. Compared to your biggining I am actually quite Good.--Deathlaser : Chat 17:38, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

LOL.--Deathlaser : Chat 17:39, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

*sigh* You cannot be "nominated" for autopatrolled - unless, of course, someone else files the request on your behalf (which they should never do). Someone may suggest you get it, but not nominate you. Just like I cannot nominate you to eat ice cream; I may suggest it, but you may or may not based on many things (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:48, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

...and WP:AN does not need to approve you obtaining any rights - they can, however, be taken away there (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:52, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, someone 'filed' the request without me knowing, and I saw it on my watchlist. Anyway, if I ever want rights, MBisanz said I have to go to WP:AN requesting that I can request them. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 17:54, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No more lies from now on....I may be new but I am not and Idiot.--Deathlaser : Chat 17:56, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not the case, as this is more of the case: I didn't know that at all. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 18:05, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Trouted

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Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: Requesting 36 user rights.

Over 2 months. That's gotta be a record. LOL. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 17:41, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That must have really winded up the admins.--Deathlaser : Chat 17:43, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm... By the way, as a public service announcement: "I'm often an idiot — deal with it".

--Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 17:44, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And I was just about to nominate you for adminship as well, maybe that's not such a good idea now.--Deathlaser : Chat 17:47, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would've declined and trouted you many times! </sarcazum> Come back in a year. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 17:52, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hrere's what!

Here is what you need to do:

Stop visiting my talk page
Don't comment on me anywhere on this wiki
Don't critisize and attack me like you did on sunday
I will not do the same to you

This is to prevent further disruption and accusations-I personally don't want an intervention ban.--Deathlaser : Chat 16:05, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First point, I don't visit there anymore. Second, there may be times which are needed, even if good. Third, 'criticize' — It was meant to be just something to point out to you, and what you should do in later times – I'm glad you made the stubs better. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 16:08, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

One final thing, on your /TAPmistakes page — blank it and change the content to {{db-userreq}} then it will get deleted quicker in the correct way. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 16:10, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not trying to attack you and that but you say one thing and Sharlott says another thing - And guess who gets blamed? (ME).--Deathlaser : Chat 16:56, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I give the most basic of ideas, LadyofSharlott gives more advanced, better ones. That's the reality. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 17:00, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Beetle stubs

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Since Deathlaser delete my comment, I am adding it to your talk page if you dont mind. I think you read it, but just to be sure. Anyway: I dont know why that many people are interested in making beetle stubs all at once, but you seem to be one of them. Sadly, everyone making them is making the same mistakes. Might I give you some pointers? You should add the "species", "binomial" and "binomial_authority" parameters to your taxobox and lose the genus authority (since your article is about a species and not the genus). Furthermore, the name of the species in the first line of text should be bold and italic. And please, could you at least add some info about the species to the article? The bare minimum would be the distribution (where does this species live?). Have a look at Mordellistena martapurana. I changed everything that needs changing to the taxobox. Furthermore, the distribution is listed on the site you use as a reference. It is found behind the species name in brackets. Ruigeroeland (talk) 09:03, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm trying a new mass creation template to fix this. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 09:14, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Add the name of the authority, not only the year. See Mordellistena neglecta. Furthermore: if there are brackets (i.e. "(Walker, 1855)" instead of "Walker, 1855"), please leave them. They mean something (they mean the species was originally described in another genus). Ruigeroeland (talk) 09:42, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Furthermore: I would suggest you drop the superfamily from the text. There is no need to state it, because it is already mentioned on the family page. Also: family names should not be in italics. Last: it would really be best if you add the distribution of the species. It is found on the site you use as a reference like I said earlier. You could also try google and (if it is a European species) Fauna Europaea (http://http://www.faunaeur.org/) Ruigeroeland (talk) 09:45, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

One last thing: say "described by ... in ...". It might have been discovered much earlier, but the date tells us when it was described. That is a difference. Ruigeroeland (talk) 09:47, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Could you take a look at my template? User:Thine Antique Pen/sandbox2. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 09:57, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I changed some small things. I hope you dont mind. Ruigeroeland (talk) 10:04, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding your question "How do you use #titleparts to only take the second part of the title?": I dont know. I only make articles manually. There must be someone who can help you out, but I really wouldnt know who I'm afraid. Regarding you "RFA candidate" remark: I am happy to not be an admin to be honest. I like spending my time making and improving actual articles instead of meddling into wikipedia policies and settling disputes. :) Ruigeroeland (talk) 10:44, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I guess. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 10:45, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See I am not the only one making mistakes. Maybe I should make a list of your mistakes, see how that feels.--Deathlaser : Chat 16:10, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's been done, many times for me.

— page up for U1. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 16:11, 21 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The binomial authority is still not okay. The brackets should enclose the name AND year, not only the year. So not "Walker (1810)", but "(Walker, 1810)". You should also seperate the name and year with a comma. Furthermore, if you dont add any more info, there is a serious risk that your articles will be turned into a redirect to the genus page, since you provide no more info than available on the genus page already (the name, ref and authority are also provided on the genus page, so what is the added value of your article?). I will not do this myself because I dont really agree with doing this, but I know of some administrators who do. Just to give you a heads up and potentially save you a lot of useless work and irritation. If articles like the ones you make appear about moths and butterflies, I expand them, but I do not have the time to expand all of your beetle articles and in my experience, there are no other active users who will. Ruigeroeland (talk) 13:21, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll change it. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:24, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to bother you again, but you still make some mistakes and if you mass create articles, you should not make mistakes. Regarding the Orthomegas articles: in the species parameter in the taxobox, the genus name should be shortened to O. (it should be written in full in the binomial parameter though). Regarding brackets around the authority: only use brackets when the source does. Dont ADD them if they are not there in the source. Like I said earlier: they actually have meaning. Furthermore, PLEASE add the distribution. The source has it listed right beside the species name. It is hardly any more work to do so and you save others the trouble of having to do it for you. Ruigeroeland (talk) 07:45, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

CSD

A7 CSD

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on I am learning requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Theroadislong (talk) 18:46, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

China

If you look at a global map coverage on wikipedia in relation to the country area is not bad. But if you examine a map of China in particular the coverage on here is shocking beyond belief. In relation to the population of China representing 1/5 of the world population roughly and the sheer number of towns with sizeable populations, some with millions still missing on wikipedia I personally see improving coverage of China one of the most important priorities for the whole website. Whilst Jaguar's new stubs are far from ideal as a start, I appear to be the only one who can really see the importance of having encyclopedia articles on them. We could potentially have hundreds of articles on topics within each township. Some townships cover tens of thousands of square kilometres. China and much of Russia is a blackhole on wikipedia in terms of knowledge. We should really be trying to organize something which can productively and efficiently produce articles on them and overide the articles. Nuking them all in my opinion is not a move forward, problematic or not. They could be recreated by a bot, as indeed could most articles on species. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:10, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My reason to nuke them is the sheer fact that it would take longer for any bot under policy or living human to fix them. My stubs at least have the correct source for every article. With Jaguar's stubs, it would be quicker for a bot to create them all, with automated Chinese translations, leading to the correct references and coordinates. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 19:23, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a proposed resolution there. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 19:33, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well lets face it, he isn't going to is he... I'd be interested in seeing the programming behind the Chinese bot.., But above all my best advice to you personally would be to stay well away from ANI like I generally do as ANI has a way of turning the tables on you, and it might be you being attacked before long. It attracts all sorts of malicious assholes who exist on here purely to try to cause drama and attack other editors rather than focus on what we are really here for.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:37, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, with my 600 stub category fixing which took 4 solid hours, I worked out it would take him around 24 hours of non-stop work, as there is more work involved. I often stay away from ANI, but I once contacted Jaguar about the Chinese articles, and he said that he would 'love' creating many more of the same ones. I didn't reply to the email. Anyway; thanks for reviewing my DYK nom! --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 19:42, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of I am learning for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article I am learning is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I am learning until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. v/r - T P 19:39, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Narborough Railway Line

On 25 May 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Narborough Railway Line, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Great Eastern Railway engineers discovered chalk while digging the Narborough Railway Line? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Narborough Railway Line.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Adoption

Hello Thine Antique Pen! Of course I would love to be your third adopter. I run an adoption school, which has been praised by many users. I'll be happy to adopt you because I enjoy working with others – especially to help them become a better editor on Wikipedia!

Take a look at my edit history; I usually work at Articles for Deletion, Articles for Creation, in new page patrolling, and in vandalism-fighting. I have been an editor on Wikipedia for a year, and have made over 15,000 edits to the encyclopedia.

I'm usually available on Wikipedia from 0:00 - 5:00 and occasionally from 12:00-16:00 (all times UTC). I travel frequently, usually on business trips around the world. I'm so young, yet so busy.

If I adopt you, I promise I will provide you with the most friendly, easy, and convenient adoption service through my adoption school. If you think I am the right adopter for you, we shall get started now! →B music ian 01:03, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

He's already quite far into course (you're not the only person borrowing it, and Worm adapted large parts of it from elsewhere too), so something a bit different is needed :) But I'm sure a third adopter would work well! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:52, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I know that I'm quite far, but a third would be best! --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 06:27, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome. I'll create the adoption page and we can decide what lesson we can start with. →B music ian 04:53, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So I've created your adoption page at User:Bmusician/Adoption/Thine Antique Pen. Have a look! What lesson do you think we should start with? Take a look at my lesson book. →B music ian 05:33, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do them in order, Five Pillars please! --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 07:45, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Assignment fresh on your adoption page.

→B music ian 12:42, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A request

Thine Antique Pen, I think it's best if you stay away from User:Deathlaser. Your AfD nomination of MyMaths has all the hallmarks of retaliation for their "delete" comment at the AfD for I am learning. Deathlaser has asked you to stay away, which he reiterated here, Wikipedia:Help_desk#Thine_Antique_Pen. I suggest you do that; it'll be much better for the climate here. I don't want to have to go to ANI to request the community for some kind of interaction ban. There are plenty of other articles to work on besides theirs. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:40, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I am staying away now. I wanted to fix up the stubs, I now can't. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 15:56, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Was that what was listed on that subpage? Well, there's plenty of stubs that needs work... Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:10, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A list of the Mordellistena— stubs that he made. Most of them needed to meet MOS:BOLD (like many stubs), but that was only something. Nothing major. Only 19 articles. See my userpage in the Articles Created section for examples of stubs. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 16:14, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am prepared to overlook all three things you done wrong, as long as you don't do them again. So please, fix my stubs and No more retaliations or attacks on my Talk page.--Deathlaser : Chat 21:09, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed up one as an example. See this. Thanks! --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 21:13, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think y'all are just feeding each other errors. See my corrections to that and other articles listed on my talk page. LadyofShalott 22:28, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am aiming for my corrections to be done in 2 weeks. First - the species authority, second week the abbreviations. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 22:38, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed deletion of Dictionary of Botany

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Request

Your userpage seems fine now =). ResMar 19:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of User talk:Thine Antique Pen/Adminship Nominations/Crisco 1492

My own CSD notice...

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U1 - ONLY delete talk

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Question

I'm just curious, how do you go and take away one user's DYK icon [1] because they didn't get credit for it, but add a Featured List icon for yourself [2] (for an article that was promoted to Featured List 2 years before you had an account! [3]) and think that makes you eligible for triple crown [4]? What exactly is your thinking on 'credit where credit is due'? Wikipelli ^Talk 14:08, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is for significant contributor. I'll remove it though. With FC/GA you don't get credits, just good faith is assumed. I'm trying to work up something in my userspace now. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 14:10, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Adminstats

You shouldn't really be using adminstats. Can you please remove it?—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 16:15, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Zapped from known place. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 16:16, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I have developed a patch for TPBot, TParis will be putting in place soon, that will deny access to any non-admin.—cyberpower ^Chat_Online 16:26, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done

Glipidiomorpha articles Done.--Deathlaser : Chat 16:30, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See what I changed here. I'll fix the rest up for now, but take this into account please! --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 16:31, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done fixing them. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 16:46, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are on my watch-list. No need to go through my request just to grab my attention.--Deathlaser : Chat 17:17, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Interaction with Deathlaser

Extended content

Why did this occur, after you have been asked twice to keep away from him? →Σ τ c. 21:12, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Asked twice? Well, he's been saying for me to fix up the stubs, which I did. I've dealt with the matter with my mentor. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 21:13, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think this was really a problem Tom, but discussing something completely unrelated at a request for permissions page (or anywhere else unrelated) isn't incredibly helpful and just confuses people. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 21:21, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did say to move it to my talk. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 21:23, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Whether you said "move it" to your talk or not is irrelevant - you shouldn't have posted there in the first place. Right?

However, for everyone else's benefit, I will note that Deathlaser continued posting on TAP's talk page even after making the requests to "stay away". Can't have it both ways. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:31, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Despite all that have happened I gave him loads of extra-chances to redeem himself(I think the count is up to 6 now). However, giving him a 7th chance seems a bit ridiculous.--Deathlaser : Chat 15:40, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deathlaser, this is getting a bit ridiculous now. If you are unable to get along with Thine Antique Pen, then stay away from him. Starting with not posting on his talk page. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 15:44, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by 'redeem' myself? You still post here, and if you want a ban between us, you should look at the history. You still post here... --v/r; tap/tom @ 15:42, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want a ban.............but you keep argueing.--Deathlaser : Chat 15:44, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by 'argueing' — 'arguing'? Well, I'm not. It's just the point. --v/r; tap/tom @ 15:45, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Then what do you call this.--Deathlaser : Chat 15:49, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What do I call that, eh? I call that participating in discussions, not arguing. Sometimes if someone would've made 60 stubs, and 11 of them have errors, the request may be declined. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 15:51, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deathlaser, please stay off my talk page. Thank you. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 15:53, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 02:43, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I imagine he's asleep by now (he'd better be!) However, since he's edited this evening (local time), I assume the autoblock is now fixed. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 02:48, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great :) Sorry for being late to the game - I finally got my internet back after an outage and I wanted to drop a note here first thing in case he was still being affected. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 03:25, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How do you know he's "asleep".--Deathlaser : Chat 15:43, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, I reset the router, fine now. Deathlaser, it's about timezones. UK. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 15:46, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Question

Hello, my English is not too perfect so please excuse it, however I see you are frequent editor and writer of articles as well as near native francophone speaker, so I propose you translate more Abbaye de Chaalis (from French wiki) as the Chaalis Abbey corresponding page in English is a ébauche- as I believe they call it. I grew up in Oise and visited l'abbaye some times before, I know you write many articles and are busy but I just want to know if you have time for translating some little more of this information, est-ce possible? Or point me in the direction for how to do translation, is there required program etc.? I do not know if French wiki has direction for such task, however if you can find it I would like to know it because it is not easy for me reading longer directions in English. Also if it is complicated for explaination of translation I hope it is not too much if you use French for explaination, again sorry for my bad English!! Merci beaucoup, Gérard — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.78.111.197 (talk) 06:21, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dual accounts

Hi there, I see that your alternate account at User:Tomtomn00 is still receiving posts and looks like an active primary user talk page. You had a message from another editor about the GA mentors list which still has your old user name active upon it. I think it might be a good idea if you went round any pages such as this where your old user name is present and redircted them to your new one. Plus in that particular case, I think the advice to remove yourself as a GA reviewer is good. Get a little more experience under your belt or people are likely to think you are badge-hunting!

If the old account is purely for occasional use in public places the I think it would be less confusing if you made a hard redirect from the alternate to the main account, which would prevent any further confusion about accounts. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 10:50, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
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Explain? --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 19:50, 28 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi. I had a quick question for you about an account I came across in the NewUsers list. Do you happen to know anything about User:Eater anann or User:Michael Barboz? TN X Man 20:00, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Email sent with info. Please keep private as I request with emails. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 22:00, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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GA review

Ah I see you snapped up my new GA nom quickly after I promised to review your nomination. Thanks for that, I will review yours later this evening. Regards.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:57, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I often take a look in my spare time. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 15:59, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So I see, most flattered. Regards.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:00, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

IN the refs, can you place all author surnames before first name and also ensure all of the dates are formatted the same way? Also if you could blue link those remaining festivals..♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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CSD log

How did you set up your CSD log? I set my twinkle preferences to do it, but it doesn't seem to have done anything, yet I speedied two yesterday, and it isn't in my contribs, so I guess they've been deleted.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 19:34, 31 May 2012 (UTC)::[reply]

Create User:Gilderien/twinkleoptions.js with the content from User:Thine Antique Pen/twinkleoptions.js and clear catche. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 20:07, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 20:29, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks and advice

Thank you for the barnstar. It's depressing to have to delete so much, but that's the downside of an anyone-can-edit site; I have been pushing the idea that we should make it rather clearer at sign-on time that Wikipedia is not like Myspace and that "anyone can edit" doesn't mean "anyone can put in whatever they like".

One piece of advice - you are tagging A3s like Kinathukadavu-Ramesh and MS SeaFrance Renoir rather too quickly. The first was obvious spam, but the second was evidently trying to make an article. People ought to wait to press "Save page" until they have assembled something that looks like an article, but newbies don't know that, and often put in a few words and press "Save page" to see how it looks: it is discouraging if a speedy tag pops up soon. For A1s or A3s you should normally wait 10 - 15 minutes to see if anything more appears - see {{uw-hasty}}. If not, one can give advice about how to make a userspace draft - see what I have added to User talk:Bennyboy2012.

Keep at it: New Page Patrol sours the soul, so that it is too easy for one's attitude to change from "Is there a possible article here?" to "How can we get rid of this?"; but it's a vital part of keeping the encyclopedia going. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:01, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thanks! --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 10:52, 2 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you! --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 11:34, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Joel Hallan’s Biology Catalog

Explained

Hey Pen, thanks for creating the new Coleoptera articles. You should be aware though that Joel Hallan’s Biology Catalog isn't a good source to use for taxonomy. A lot of his taxonomy is really, really, really outdated, like it includes taxons that haven't been used for 100 years. I'm only familiar with arachnid taxonomy, so his beetle taxonomy might be more up to date, but you should use it with skepticism. Kaldari (talk) 20:38, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, I'll change source when I've done 1000 species beginning with the same genus, as I have checked and it is updated for that specific genus. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 20:49, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, glad you're double checking :) Kaldari (talk) 21:00, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I do before I make another batch of stubs. (I do them in about 20s, and I've done about 1220). Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 21:01, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've added another reference and an external link into my mass-creation template. No worries. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 21:24, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Nice

Nice, I can finally post here again. So, can I plz have some more of those stubs to create.--Deathlaser : Chat 19:40, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Have a stab at Neocurtimorda. :) --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 19:43, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Example please.--Deathlaser : Chat 19:47, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

BTW:Great Userpage.--Deathlaser 19:48, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Evil! See Neocurtimorda aequatorialis for example. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 19:50, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done.--Deathlaser 20:04, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

These are the things I found;

You need to include the binomial and binomial_authority in the Taxobox.
You need to update the accessdate.

Regards, --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 20:05, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Give me more for tommorow.--Deathlaser 20:21, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Variimorda. I'd like you to be independant and work out how to make one without me. Then you should find the articles.--Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 20:23, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Referencing Tool

CSD'd

what does this template do? it seems to require a large set of subpages of the form Template:Referencing Tool xyz, but there are currently none other than "undefined", so I am guessing this template is broken? if so, we should just delete it? Frietjes (talk) 20:47, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Idea failed. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 20:59, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tom, please tag them {{db-author}}. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:28, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 22:31, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A cheeseburger for you!

You must be hungry after all that work. Arcandam (talk) 23:36, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, nom. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 09:05, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:AUTOPATROLLED

Please get this!!!! It will help all of us new page patrollers so we will not have to go through and manually check all of your stubs. kthxbye. "Pepper" @ 10:54, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm topic banned from requesting userrights. It doesn't mean that I can't be nominated, but there will end up being an AN discussion probably. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 10:55, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Gastropods#Participants

Consider joining. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:58, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hell yes.

Done . Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 11:00, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. Nudibranchs etc. are great. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:09, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Serious: Removal of your topic ban

Hi. I was considering the fact that you've been a better editor, and you have not been requesting any rights, do you want your topic ban to be lifted? I'm thinking about starting a ANI discussion to lift your topic ban. Your article creation is killing all the NPP'ers, and henceforth if you receive Autopat it'll be great. Dipankan ^{(Have a chat?)} 11:07, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay then! It would be WP:AN. As invariably, just my abhorrent contemplations. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 11:10, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest waiting a while, as has been recommended elsewhere, for example at Worm's talk page. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 11:58, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

But it's useless. I believe that TAP won't be asking for rights unless it's far emergency. (And others may well nominate him) I really have the mercy. EVIL! MWAHHAHAHA! Dipankan ^{(Have a chat?)} 15:15, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Take me there then, I don't mind! If a component of the community postulates that I'll get it abolished, allow them to it! Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 19:43, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mordellistena

Consider adding the following to the talk pages of the stubs you created:

{{WikiProject Insects|class=Stub|importance=Low|needs-photo=yes}}

Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:09, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do 'em once I finish the batch of 1000, I hope. I might ask someone with AWB to do it, as they could just go through a list I've got. As invariably, just my abhorrent contemplations. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 11:11, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

~~I'll do it on User:Thine Antique Pen Sock, so I don't get my % of article namespace edits messed up. :) --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 11:12, 6 June 2012 (UTC)~~[reply]

It's at WP:AWB/TA. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 11:17, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good plan. 2 tips:

1) When adding {{Mordellistena-stub}} to the bottom, bump it down 5 spaces or so. It makes the article look better.

2) Google: Do A Barrel Roll

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:20, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, LOL. I will, don't worry! --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 11:23, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA

See Mechanical pest control.--Deathlaser (talk) 11:28, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say it would need to be expanded about 3x before it meets the bare minimum. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 11:29, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What about now.--Deathlaser (talk) 12:43, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're already 573rd♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:16, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deathlaser, I wouldn't worry much about article length - it has been experimentally proven that article length is not a barrier to GA or FA. References are far more important than length.

Interesting article. I would elaborate the individual sections, and, because the lead should summarise the article (WP:LEAD you will have to read that and many other MoS pages if you want to achieve a GA), rewrite the lead from scratch only when the article is mostly finished. →Σ τ c. 22:04, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What about now?--Deathlaser (talk) 20:16, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Still no. I would advise you to take a look at some of my Good Articles. What are your thoughts on Compton–Belkovich Thorium Anomaly and Megitza? I have also created another article which I have nominated for GA, which is The Wedding Dance. Regards, ⇒T A P 20:18, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Same size, just looks better and sounds more professional-can you tell me what's wrong?--Deathlaser (talk) 20:23, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First, you need severe copyediting on the article. Second, I believe it does not cover enough to become GA status at the current standing. --⇒T A P 20:25, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So, what does it not cover?--Deathlaser (talk) 20:27, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It does not cover GA-class material. I have a suggestion for you. I chopped lots of waffle out of the lead just now, but I want you to expand the lead. Summarise the basic points of the article in it, don't list the methods, just say one or two. Regards, ⇒T A P 20:37, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Three things

Hello!
I've noticed your mass article creation - keep up the good work!
I like your username very much indeed.

Take care, Moswento ^talky 19:38, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:PERM/A. There is an altercation beginning there... Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 19:40, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Autopatrolled

I just assigned you the autopatrolled right. See my comment on the RFPERM page, it's no feather in your cap but a convenience for those who do NPP, which is a kind of sucky job. I'll be keeping an eye on you (not in a "gotcha" kind of way, just don't want you to make grave errors) and I'll ping you if I see something that needs fixing. I won't hesitate to remove the right if there's simply too much that needs fixing, then we can go back to letting the NPPers take care of it. You've been doing so much better - I've been keeping an eye from afar since the drama boards crap - and I hope to see you continue to improve. You've got a lot of potential, and I don't want to see it go to waste. If you need anything - admin stuff, a thorough article review, help finding sources - I'm always willing to help you, or anyone else. Cheers! :) Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 21:02, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I know that this will help them there! If there are any errors, I can fix 100 errors in under an hour, I did before (long time ago). Anyway — Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 21:05, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck with the stubbing. I did that many moons ago for African languages and it was rewarding! Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 21:16, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've worked out 300,000 stubs to make, and 35,000—145,000ish a year. :) Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 21:17, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Holy Wikipedia, whatever are they on? Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 21:25, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Beetles, Butterflies, Flies and other insects. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 21:28, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, good luck! I'll stay in touch. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 21:39, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Time to write some stubs then! I'll try for 15-20 in 2 minutes. :) Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 21:40, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, you've got a small error in your template. It should say "species of diving beetle". Please go through and fix those! Thanks. :) Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 22:06, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done, sorry for the delay. My WiFi got cut off again for a short time... Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 22:21, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, just keep an eye out for stuff like that. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 22:24, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Okay! I probably would've ended up seeing it in a while when I take a look at my template again. Anyway, Thanks! --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 22:27, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

CSVLoader

See: User:Ganeshk/CSVLoader. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:52, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Haven't got AWB. Topic banned from requesting any form of right/tool. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 00:56, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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A kitten for you!

Thanks for fixing all those, I was just about using AWB to fix. So I'm opening the thread now. (At AN)

Dipankan ^{(Have a chat?)} 08:32, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mwhahaha, my Google Chrome speed is faster than AWB. :) Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 08:33, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AN notice

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Yawn... I watch that page.

. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 08:42, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of whether you watch it or not, they ARE required to advise you, period (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:55, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It is obvious and I do know that. It was as a polite note, hinting that I saw it before this notice was added. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 12:56, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ref

In all the articles you are creating on "Copelatus" species, you are using the ref "Miller,K.B, Blake,M. The unusual occurrence of aquatic beetles in amber, copelatus aphroditae balke, n. sp. and C. predaveterus miller, n. sp., (Coleoptera: Dytiscidae: Copelatinae). Proc. of the Entomological Society of Washington, 2003, vol. 105, no4, pp. 809-815. Retrieved on 7 June 2012". This publication is about two fossil species. Why are you adding it to all of these living species? Furthermore, it seems plain wrong to add the temporal range of these extinct to living species. Ruigeroeland (talk) 09:54, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll change it.

Doing... Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 10:00, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 11:13, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. DYKs of mine needing review...

... include:

They are mostly Australian archers and basketball players, national football teams and a Bieber related article. Any help clearing those would be nice. :D If you have articles you need reviewed, let me know. --LauraHale (talk) 12:57, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've done 3 and I will do some more later. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:01, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mr Pen, I think you may have passed some DYK's for Laura before. She is a hard worker and the only problems I have seen are the hooks pushing the limit for length, or once someone complained it was too negative. The articles themselves are always compliant with DYK. Unless Laura is going to package hundreds of DYKs for a thesis, I don't know where she finds the time! But please do a thorough review giving a statement for each part of the review criteria. Then the prep builders can have confidence. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 13:08, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In my eyes they were of satisfactory quality for a DYK. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:09, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Half the ones I've been nominating recently I have had sitting around in my user space for a while. (Work list was up to 75 at one point. Down to 35 think.) The average article takes about 2 hours to get DYK ready. Thesis will get done. I regret the latest Bieber one at DYK but meh. Added four more today in an effort to push through my work list. --LauraHale (talk) 09:55, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Copelatus articles

Please add {{italic title}} to them as I did to https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Copelatus_ruteri&diff=prev&oldid=496456458 Copelatus ruteri]. Also, as I've already mentioned to you, it is redundant to say "Copelatus ruteri is... in the genus Copelatus". LadyofShalott 15:56, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll go through them soon, after the next batch. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 15:57, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Halfway through the {{italic title}}'s, will continue in 5-10 mins. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 16:28, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 17:08, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Morocco

Gosh, you're impressionable! If you want to create articles on Moroccan communes you're going to have to be very careful with the province and commune vs municipality names and categories and ensuring there are not errors. But please hold off on starting any more provinces until the provincial templates are made. You will also need to do dabbing for some and also ensure you add the template and new categories to each article and create.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:21, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mwhahahaha. I'm only doing Al Haouz Province for now, Doc! Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 19:23, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

An ideal stub would look like Ouirgane of course but if you are keen on creating them that's at least a start. Please hold off on the creation until the templates are made because I don't want to have to cleanup existing articles and route out the ones which haven't got the new cats and template/ Before you start each province please ensure you add two categories and the provincial template to the footer of existing articles before staritng and you may have to dab links which point to other articles with xxx, Morocco etc. Meanwhile I have some PD material you can start if you desire.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:45, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Link and I'll mass create anything. Also, see this. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 19:47, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK. If you see this you'll find 8000 articles needing creation. I started this. See how to link to wiki source in the reference. Basically you visit an entry there click edit and where it says wikipedia= you add the wikipedia article link then create. However some things you need to do:

a] Ensure there is no existing wikipedia article of that name. If so you will need to dab and add the correct link and also add the name in a hat note at the top of page of the same name or dab page on wikipedia. For this very reason I would avoid the entries which appear to have multiple entries of the same name.
b] Try to add a profession category, 15th-century English people or whatever and the date of birth and death if the article can it.
c] You will need to wikify the text a bit, wiki link a few important towns or people and ensure it is formatted like Robert de Bereford rather than an exact copy. But it shouldn't take long to clean and start and once you get into the swing of things. But be careful, some may be Scottish, even Irish so you'll need to get the categories right. Also most of the text in brackets mentioning document source or whatever can be removed.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:14, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've done John de Berewyk. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 20:28, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See my additions to it. Also you will need to visit here click edit and enter the wikipedia article name where it says wikipedia=. This will then remove it from the category you initially looked at. OK?♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:36, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

These sound a fair bit more complicated, so, even once you get going, they will need doing quite slowly. There's no point doing 8000 of them and then discovering that approx 5% of the nationality categories are wrong and no-one knows which they are so no-one can correct them without re-examing all 8000 individually. That's potentially getting into "better off not doing them at all" territory. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:37, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not really, if Thine wants to become a great new article contributor I'm sure he'll have no difficulty merely copying text from wikisource and add a few [[]] and categories. The vast majority are English anyway.. The text is essentially there to copy. I suspect though he's more interested in the ones he can factory create at a higher rate but its nice to create a few every now and then.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:45, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion declined: User talk:Tomtomn00

Hello Thine Antique Pen, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User talk:Tomtomn00, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Usertalk pages may not be deleted. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:29, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, everything on there is just archived and it redirects here. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 09:31, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The reason for not deleting it is that even if empty, the edit history can be consulted to tell the history of that talk page. Once it's deleted that history is lost and can't be consulted. So unless there are extremely good reasons, talk pages are preserved for the sake of the records they allow access to. Kim Dent-Brown ^(Talk) 09:49, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, okay! --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 09:50, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bulgaria

OK. If you could create articles the rest of the Bulgarian villages for Ardino like Ahryansko. All of the data is available in here and if you look down the side you'll see the villages under each municipality and just the reference link changes by the name of the village on the end. If you take the time to study it, how the coordinates are entered and the data you should be able to come up with a template which produce some useful stubs on these. When you finish the municipality i'll update your template to start another and so on. OK?♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:29, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah start Bashevo and I'll review it to check for errors and then give you the go ahead for the others!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:37, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I ditched the template as I was getting expression errors. See Bashevo. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 12:42, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah OK. Almost but you need to add the Bulgarian title in the bg: link and ensure the area matches. see the diff. You should be able to do em failry quickly like that.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:46, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, okay. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 12:48, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I made Bistrogled from User:Thine Antique Pen/sandbox17 somehow... Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 12:51, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Change the date to 8 June, just spotted it. Also you need to change the name in the title of the sources. A subst:PAGENAME ought to do it. I'll fix your template. But if the titles are dabbed they'll have to be fixed afterwards as the link won't be correct.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:57, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

subst:PAGENAME seems to not work in the reference. :/ Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:11, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah you'll just have to quickly correct then like you did with the last two which look perfectly fine I think. You'll get into a stride I'm sure.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:14, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, okay. Mwhahahaha Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:15, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In a way your template functions partly as a bot as it minimizes the chances of errors in tapping in the Bulgarian name and data twice and forgetting to update one of them by just tapping the digit in once when you create. Very evil indeed!♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:19, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mwhahahaha! Also known as {{subst:User:Thine Antique Pen/sandbox17|{{subst:PAGENAME}}|AREA|POP|LAT|LONG|LANG-BG|FROMSOFIA}}. Heh. Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:21, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. One thing though, if the articles don't have coordinates or map don't remove the paramteters from the infobox. Such remove the coordinates and the Bulgaria from the pushpin_map OK?♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:25, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Darn. OK! I found the most notable one: Doyrantsi. A population of 2! Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:26, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You know for Turna, Kardzhali Province you could've removed subst:PAGENAME and replaced it with "Turna"? --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:34, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was aware the whole thing needed fixing, yes..♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:43, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The "whole thing" never needs to be fixed. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 13:44, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to say: thumb up on these new stubs! Very informative. Keep it up! Ruigeroeland (talk) 14:20, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 14:24, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Foxley Wood

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Done --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 17:52, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A quick reminder: the new paragraph needs a footnote. (I'm trying to get this restarted, but Drmies will be the one revisiting the review, so I thought I'd save time by mentioning it before the review is resumed.) BlueMoonset (talk) 18:16, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 18:26, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for The Wedding Dance

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Machine translations

Please don't do that, if you're not able to translate something properly leave it for someone else, adding a bad machine translation doesn't help anyone--Jac16888 ^Talk 21:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It was a machine translation, however it made sense in a way, and I would class it acceptable for the time being. I was writing up a new one in Notepad at the time. ⇒T A P 22:11, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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A kitten for you!

Thank you for doing a thorough review of Justin Bieber on Twitter. If you want to review any of the articles I have at WP:GAN, please feel free. :D

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Mwhahaha, it took a while. :) ⇒T A P 17:50, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Re:GA

Of course you can! I would be honored if you would. And sorry for the long delay, I just wasn't around much these past days. Dahn (talk) 12:54, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Heh, thanks! ⇒T A P 19:55, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bulgaria

Updated your template 17. Next municipality is good to go.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:01, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll start around 16:00 tomorrow, as it's a bit late for stubbing (+research) now (22:10). Regards, ⇒T A P 21:10, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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upon asking the attacker how he got my e-mail he responds with "Are you that disabled you forget you put the e-mail on your user page." (all the more reasons I don't like e-mailing him) and can I just mention I have no major disablities!--Deathlaser (talk) 15:33, 14 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Bul and Moroc

Next municipality ready in your User talk:Thine Antique Pen/sandbox17, just move it into the main page once you've done the current municipality. With Morocco, if you want to work on them you're going to have to be responsible for creating new categories by province for the settlements and removing the old regional categories, adding either Municipalities of Morocco or Rural communes of Morocco to the existing articles,adding the provincial nav box ensuring that each blue link points to the correct article before starting and if not dabbing them accordingly. Like this for altering existing articles] rural communes category though for rural communes. Once you've done that then you can start the missing ones.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I started Sidi Kacem Province (Mwhahaha)! I'll allow you to make a new subpage every time. Moving talk to sandbox22. ⇒T A P 13:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Before you start please do this to the blue linked ones and create new provincial categories with three categories, 1]Parent region 2]By Moroccan province 3]Province category like this. Otherwise you'll be creating a mess as they won't all be sorted and I won't know which need fixing. I'd rather though you work down through the Calliopjen list systematically though rather than picking provinces at random as I'll lose track of things and what's been done..♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:08, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nono. Stop LOL. Sidi Ahmed Benaissa is a rural commune. not a municipality, the category is wrong. You'll need to do the munipcalities first then adjust your sandbox and do rural communes. Please listen to what I said about sorting out the existing articles first otherwise you'll be creating a mess for me to have to sort out.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:14, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I did mine. (Sidi Ahmed Benaissa, Oulad Nouel, Moulay Abdelkader, Lamrabih, Bni Oual and Ain Dfali). Regards, ⇒T A P 13:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"I did mine" is not good enough. The existing articles need to be sorted first. Ouezzane points to the wrong article. It needs to be filled with one for that province and a hat note at the top to the other article. C'mon take some responsibility on this, otherwise its more destructive than constructive as half of them will be wrong categories and missing the modifications. Never start creating on a new province until the modifications have been made to all of the existing articles first, see what I've said above. I'm having to chase you on this when I was busy elsewhere.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:19, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Doing. ⇒T A P 13:22, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All you have to do when you start each province is click each blue link and add this and then if one or two point to a wrong article just dab them. One you've cleared em you can then just drill them any munciipalities first, then adjust your sandbox to drill the rural communes, no worries, but it has to be done first before you start..♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:23, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tekna wrong article link too.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:25, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tekna, Morocco, = (Masmouda) also dab the link on the Province article. Once you get the hang of sorting out the existing articles or faulty links you should get the hang of it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:30, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that I'm done! ⇒T A P 13:37, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Free to drill the remaining now. But you see how it gets messy if you don't systematically fix them first.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:40, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Aye, okay! ⇒T A P 13:41, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You can start another province afterwards and I want to see how you handle the category sorting and creation/ template adding to the existing articles/dabbing before starting. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:40, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, OKay! ⇒T A P 13:42, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Kénitra Province, same region, difference province. Watching you to see how it goes. I wouldn't advise creating zillions of sandboxes. Only keep one for Bulgaria and one for Morocco as all you need to do is just update the province/region and for Bulgaria also the guide bulgaria link.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:50, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done fixes. I even had to move Haddada, a page you created to Haddada, Algeria. ⇒T A P 14:03, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You forgot to change the region populated places category to a provincial one.. Create one like this for Kenitra and ensure the articles also have the municipal or rural communes categories. OK?♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:05, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

When you add the templates at the bottom just fix the categories too like this.Its more efficient if you do the template adding a category fixes together like this. Anyway, good job on the dabbing I think.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:11, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OKay, done. ⇒T A P 14:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. Look good to go. The next province will be sorted perfectly of course!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:21, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. ⇒T A P 14:31, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great, now the next I want to see you do the lot correctly, create a template add the right region in your sandbox, right region in the category you will create etc.. A barnstar will be given for an entirely correctly done province without my assistance!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:39, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. ⇒T A P 14:55, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	Geography Barnstar
	For your efforts to address systematic bias by widening wikipedia's coverage of towns in non-anglo countries and being wily enough to outsmart the good doctor by picking a very short province to win this LOL!! You deserve this though for your efforts to date!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:58, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I won't be fully convinced though until you can do a biggy which needs quite a few fixes and that first. If so you can do the lot, so long as you follow exactly what I've said here.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:59, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mwhahaha! I'll pick a very big one. ⇒T A P 15:01, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and learn to say thankyou, it goes a long way LOL.♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:10, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Doc! ⇒T A P 15:11, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Aoulouz is a rural commune..♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:14, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Aye, I'm getting there, however slow. :) ⇒T A P 15:15, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done, made all articles. ⇒T A P 16:13, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so long as you take the responsibility to do the prior sorting and reorganizing correctly when you start each province, you can do the rest if you want. Good job!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:23, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'll have a go soon! ⇒T A P 16:33, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done, Tan-Tan Province! ⇒T A P 16:45, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, seems a lot like Essex to me.. ⇒T A P 19:17, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Small town please or village for rural communes, they are almost always large villages or small towns.. Some may even be smallish village so to strictly call them "town" is a little exaggerrated.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:01, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Sockpuppetry

you started a case vs. me at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Deathlaser/Archive and didn't even tell me!--Deathlasersonline (talk) 13:18, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not required to. ⇒T A P 14:51, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's true, but it would have been polite to mention that the sockpuppet investigation was a mistake, because no inappropriate use of an additional account occurred. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 15:29, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DL had retired though. Sorry for late reply, I'm using public Internet on BlackBerry... ⇒T A P 16:41, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is correct that DL had retired. But it would have been polite to mention that the sockpuppet investigation was a mistake, because no inappropriate use of an additional account occurred. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:00, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA

Mechanical pest control lead and all Cn tags taken care of!--Deathlasersonline (talk) 15:27, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Expand history and Methods. Regards, ⇒T A P 18:20, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done--Deathlasersonline (talk) 12:12, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I see no large visible difference (or I might just have poor eyesight). ⇒T A P 12:13, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

YES_TOC

The table of contents is very helpful to your colleagues. Consider restoring it. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 17:22, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. ⇒T A P 18:21, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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YGM :-) --Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 12:10, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I sent you some.. ⇒T A P 12:12, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 12:42, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Deathlasersonline (talk) 12:39, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done.--Deathlasersonline (talk) 12:46, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I finished the pointers you gave me.--Deathlasersonline (talk) 14:31, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Give me time, I have to do things other than edit WP. ⇒T A P 14:33, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Now?--Deathlasersonline (talk) 15:48, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deathlaser, I said "give me time" — I'll do it sometime. ⇒T A P 15:49, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CANVASS applies to you

Thank you to everyone for your advice, I have read it all and I will make sure to follow it. ⇒T A P 20:06, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

TAP, while I understand that you felt attacked by Bwilkins, the email you sent to me and six other people asking us to "help" against him earlier today was absolutely unacceptable. WP:CANVASS directly prohibits "stealth canvassing" via email, canvassing in which you ask for a particular action (i.e. wanting us to "help" you"), and canvassing an inordinate number of people who aren't involved with the dispute your message is about. Your email, asking us to "help" you in the conversation on Bwilkins's talk page was very much against our rules, and I'm extremely disappointed to see that (if my time-zone calculations are correct) in the time since your canvassing, at least one and possibly more of those people have joined in the discussion to support you with no mention of having been canvassed.

Your behavior here was unacceptable. If you have an issue with the way someone is treating you or your Editor Review on Wikipedia, you have WP:WQA available to you. If it's more serious than that, you have WP:ANI or even WP:RfC/U available to you. What you do NOT have available to you is the right to email six or seven people you think might support you, and tell them to go help you win a dispute with some who says your behavior isn't perfect. Because guess what? It's not. As a case in point, people have been blocked before for what you did this morning. I'm not going to block you right now, because I'm assuming that you somehow managed to miss learning about WP:CANVASS in completing your multiple adoption courses with multiple people. What I expect you to do now, to demonstrate that you understand what you did wrong and will know to avoid it in the future, is this: I expect you to update that thread on Bwilkins's talk to indicate which of the users supporting you there are there because you requested them to help you via email, whether it was the email I received or another. I expect that, if you feel Bwilkins's behavior toward you is an issue, you will open a request at WP:WQA. I expect to never receive or hear about anyone else receiving a canvassing email from you again, because if I do, I will block you without hesitation, as this incident is just the culmination of the many ways in which you don't seem to "get" how we work here. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 17:01, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am very sorry for this, it was my initial reaction. I almost instantly thought "what have I done". I believe that my actions were wrong and very sorry for it. I have never used WP:WQA and do not currently think of that as an option. I was notified by Demiurge1000 and Dr. Blofeld about my actions then and must regret them. My initial idea would have been a noticeboard, but often I get suggestions from my mentors that they are not the way forward. The only users who commented there who received an email were Demiurge1000 and ItsZippy, my mentors. I did not ask Worm That Turned to go to User talk:Bwilkins as the section begun before the emails were sent. I sent them as I thought of it as a personal attack initially, and seeked help from established users. Once again, I am very sorry. ⇒T A P 17:18, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, your FIRST requirement is to talk to me directly if we have a communication issue. Period. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:21, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was told not to get dragged in and not to comment on places like this that much by one of my mentors. ⇒T A P 17:23, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Advice which I stand by. BWilkins, your behaviour has been a disgrace. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:26, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I won't comment on either of their behaviour, (save to say I wasn't canvassed) only the validity of the comment, but I did notice that BWilkins did remove your comments twice, telling you to "Go. Away." and "F.O. already" instead of responding .--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 17:36, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously, you have been here for over a year!I wonder if wp:IDHT applies here. in which the editor fails to "get the point". But then again, look at all the positive things he has done :)--Deathlasersonline (talk) 17:43, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't say so. I've been active since February. ⇒T A P 17:45, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Deathlasersonline, how are you? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:46, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also, Fluffernutter, you're out of line here - inexperienced editors may seek advice from whoever they damn well choose when confronted with the sort of repeated baiting and personal attacks that BWilkins has engaged in. I would expect an administrator to know better than to engage in behaviour like that. (I would also expect an administrator to have the courage and the coherency to explain their behaviour when questioned about it on their own talkpage, which he's signally failed to do in this instance.)

Although, I do think emailing seven different "trusted people" was more than a little over the top, and said so by email to TAP at the time. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 17:46, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm with Demiurge on this, I also received an email and did say that, while I thought BWilkins was being a bit heavy-handed, TAP shouldn't have emailed 7 different people - one or two people to ask for advice would have been sufficient. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 17:51, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Demiurge, inexperienced editors (which TAP may or may not be, depending on who's describing him and what he's done that day - generally users who create as many articles as he has and edit for as many hours as he has and have as many mentors as he has are considered to have some amount of clue) are free to ask advice. They are not free to spam out an email consisting only of the words "help needed" and a link to a thread where someone is criticizing them. That's not "I would like your advice, here are my feelings, how do I deal?" That's "go here and help!" Bwilkins's behavior has nothing to do with the fact that TAP is prohibited from canvassing, the same as every other editor. The trouble with the way TAP handled this, via email canvassing, is that TAP has now poisoned the well as far as discussion of Bwilkins's behavior in that thread - even if it was horrible, the fact that the people telling Bwilkins so may or may not be people who are acting on TAP's request to speak for him means that the discussion is is not the work of - or not completely the work of - unbiased editors. A report to WQA, on the other hand, would presumably have been handled by those who came across it or those who monitored WQA, not by those whom TAP had hand-picked, and there would be some hope that Bwilkins would feel that conversation about his interactions with TAP would be handled by neutral users. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 18:12, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but the behaviour of the party engaging in baiting is very relevant to how TAP (wrongly) reacted to it. See recent arbcom rulings on baiting. Yes TAP has made a great many edits and spent a great many hours on Wikipedia, but he's clearly not spent most of them reading policy.

That's why this very talk page has, in a separate thread, some more whining (or baiting?) from BWilkins about TAP using the wrong wiki-term for something or other - was it "promoting" instead of "granting", "supporting" instead of "agreeing", does it really matter? If it's the case that prolific content contributors can spend enough time reading policies to answer several dozen questions, in detail, adequately - in fact, TAP only gets tripped up on the exact same question as the most recent successful RfA candidate, oddly enough - but still haven't quite mastered every single last acronym and policy and "you may not email more than X people if you feel harrassed by only Y people", then, guess what, the editor numbers are going to continue declining.

Become part of the solution, not part of the problem - go explain this to BWilkins, rather than assuming that the newbie is the easier one to pick on. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:35, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(unindent) TAP emailed me regarding the Bwilkins situation; I know I'm not his mentor, but I figured I could help contribute here. As I told him via email, Bwilkins was expressing in a frank manner the same advice I and others have given him over the past few months. TAP means well, but I believe he is naive and immature with regard to complex social settings. This has shown itself to me in our discussions regarding his userrights restriction when he seems to fail in grasping the idea that each subsequent interaction is built on prior interactions. For example, I think in this case, Bwilkins responded to him in a manner that treated him as an established user with the level of knowledge and experience typical of someone who seeks an editor review or participates in community processes as much as TAP does. See, e.g., Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Deathlaser/Archive.

TAP though doesn't seem to realize or appreciate that he has built up a reputation of sorts that associates him strongly with WP:IDHT. As with any experienced user who keeps repeating the same sorts of behaviors, people responding to them try to be more clear, blunt, and direct to ensure the point is understood. TAP though, not responding in a manner that shows he recognizes they are including their perceptions of his past behaviors in their current interactions, doesn't gauge his response as well as the community might like. Again, for example, I sanctioned him for abuse of requesting userrights and I believe Fluffernutter has also been vocal in expressing their concerns with his behavior. To think either of us would be an appropriate party to approach privately to intervene on his behalf with Bwilkins expressing concerns over his behavior seems to completely overlook the negative opinions we have expressed on his behavior in the past.

As to TAP's mentors and other helpers. I greatly respect them for their efforts. ItsZippy has been a great new admin and Keilana was one of my original mentors back in the dark ages; I have no doubt Demiurge and WTT are similarly qualified. However, I do believe that, in their desire to WP:AGF towards TAP, they may shift their perceptions so that when others criticize TAP, his mentors defend him as being inexperienced, but when TAP seeks out new positions or tasks, they defend his lengthy record of contributions. This contradictory means of characterizing his contributions makes the mentorship appear less genuine and more of an exercise in reinforcing groupthink. Sorry for being so wordy, but I wanted to be as complete as possible. MBisanz ^talk 19:50, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think you got the "odd-one-out" email, where I just stated that I found it threatening, nothing else, other than a diff on the WP:ER page. ⇒T A P 19:56, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Matt, I will certainly take your views on complex social settings into account here. It is indeed possible for someone to have substantial contributions to Wikipedia but still not have mastered the labyrinthine rules and terms and acronyms and all the rest of it - hence my comment above about this being a problem that drives away new editors.

I do see an apology from TAP above. I have yet to see any apology or retraction from BWilkins. This leaves me puzzled as to why you are here, and not there. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:58, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think its unnecessary to spend so much time discussing it. Thine has an "editor review" which I told him a week or two ago I think it pretty pointless and its better to learn the ropes as you go along. BWilks had every right to comment there, even if he was a little harsh and Thine should have know he'd be open to criticism. The most concerning things about TAP from my perspective is the fact he is very easily side tracked and pursues certain things too excessively. And he doesn't seem to realise that by continously emailing people asking for support he's more likely to turn people against him. TAP you show a lot of potential as an editor but I wish you'd just drop certain things and try to focus solely on improving wikipedia.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:10, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Tomtomn00

You seem uncertain what to do with User talk:Tomtomn00. I offer to: move it to User talk:Tomtomn00/Archive/18 without leaving a redirect and protect User talk:Tomtomn00 from creation. It is an unusual action but I cannot see any grounds for objection (TPSs will no doubt now give several!). Let me know if you want that. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:39, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please do so! Thanks for that! ⇒T A P 20:59, 17 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The page notice is still there; would you like that deleted as well? ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 12:50, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If possible. ⇒T A P 15:25, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK

Is it possible to make Dark radiation into a DYK?--Deathlasersonline (talk) 17:13, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. Quadruple it in text length, then come back to me. ⇒T A P 17:16, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK requires a lower standard then GA.--Deathlasersonline (talk) 17:17, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It requires 1500 characters in raw text length. Currently around 400 chars in text, 1200 chars in overall. Only text counts. ⇒T A P 17:18, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Foxley Wood

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Thanks from Wikipedia and the DYK team Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats on the lead DYK!♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:35, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Third one out of eight! ⇒T A P 17:37, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AFT5 release coming up - help us design a banner!

Hey all :). First-off, thanks to everyone for all their help so far; we're coming up to a much wider deployment :). Starting at the end of this month, and scaling up until 3 July, AFT5 will begin appearing on 10 percent of articles. For this release we plan on sending out a CentralNotice that every editor will see - and for this, we need your help :). We've got plans, we know how long it's going to run for, where it's going to run...but not what it says. If you've got ideas for banners, give this page a read and submit your suggestion! Many thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 16:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A3

Hi there, TAP. Please remember that the A3 criterion at CSD is for articles with no content whatsoever. I declined the tag on The secret Annexe because there is content there, however minimal. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 17:04, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have been told that A3 is for lack of content. ⇒T A P 17:29, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Films

You could create articles on missing films. List of Argentine films of 2008 for instance. I could provide an example for you, but you'd have to retrieve the correct urls for imdb/cinenacional to source/external link them.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:31, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My internet is currently going quite slow and often dies on me. I will once it speeds up a bit. ⇒T A P 16:34, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Everything alright? You seem, a little deflated?♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:31, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not really! There has been a few threats off-wiki coming towards me.. ⇒T A P 17:43, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You're forgetting to add Category:Municipalities of Morocco to the municipalities when you change the category and add template.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:12, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Answer

The common practice seems to be to not capitalize ordinary nouns in infobox templates; whether it be village, city, bowler, wicketkeeper, etc, but there are numerous counter-examples. Since "village" is not a title per se, but a rough translation of the Iranian equivalent, it seems to be an ordinary noun and hence not capitalized. There seems no exception in Wikipedia:MOS_(capitalization). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:38, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I would have to disagree with that Carlos. I think it looks strange not to capitalize and looks odd in lower casing. I've started a few ten thousand place articles with capital letters see Mali, Algeria etc. As far as I know its only you and the editor changing the Indian infoboxes using lower casing.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:14, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Bot request

Hi there, I found User:Thine Antique Pen/welcomebot. This would not pass because of this. I would advise you not to open it as it would be denied quickly. Rcsprinter (talk) 15:13, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, I think this was found, advised against, and abandoned, pretty soon after it was created. I'm not sure why it was still in the open requests category, though, so thanks for fixing that. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 15:18, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, abandoned. ⇒T A P 15:29, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A request to delete the page from your userspace probably would not be amiss. LadyofShalott 15:21, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Wedding dance

Hi TAP, I left a few more comments on the painting. Meeting the "brilliant prose" standards is very difficult, and usually requires help from several experienced writers. I suggested someone you could ask for advice on the review. I hope you're not discouraged if this nomination is unsuccessful, it usually takes a while to get the hang of FAC. The best advice I can give you is to get help from copyeditors and peer reviewers as much as you can. Regards, Mark Arsten (talk) 16:18, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've outlined all issues listed there now. Thanks! ⇒T A P 16:33, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks. I'll try to revisit the FAC, I've got another couple articles I'm trying to get around to reviewing first though. FAC can be a really rewarding place, even though it is often frustrating. Good luck! Mark Arsten (talk) 16:50, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK! I sharpened the lower right-hand detail image. From this to this. Thanks! ⇒T A P 16:53, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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2nd opinion requested

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Wikipedia:Request an RfA nomination

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Talkback

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I left a few comments about the nomination. Mark Arsten (talk) 03:35, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Four Seasons Hotel, Washington, D.C.

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Question

Hi, i noticed your activity at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Autopatrolled and was wondering how i find out how many pages/articles i have created. Can you tell me how to find this information? Thanks and have a good evening Jenova20 16:19, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Morocco

Alwats remember to add municipality and rural commune categories to the articles before you start the missing ones!!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:29, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Doing. ⇒T A P 16:30, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ooh, already done. ⇒T A P 16:32, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you

	Hoteliers Barnstar of Excellence
	You deserve one these for your impressive new meaty stub/start class articles on DC hotels. Not to mention you were actually reading my mind when i was thinking about how many notable hotels were missing! Keep it up!! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:47, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Template:Hotels in Washington D.C. completion is my goal. After this, on to the United Kingdom. :) ⇒T A P 19:50, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oh my, the list of my lustrous objects is getting long! ⇒T A P 19:54, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have a |Good Hotel Guide to the UK. Still missing tons of country house type hotels. Hotels are something of my speciality on wikipedia. You might find more for Inna Garuda BTW.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:31, 28 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

De nada! A tip though. Google the hotel and wikimapia and retrieve the coordinates to go in the infobox and add the locator map. Also avoid things like "within walking distance ". That comes across as an advert/tousrist guide. Just state exactly where the hotel is, e.g The hotel is located on xxx avenue, roughly 200 metres northwest of the White House. And to do that. just look on google maps once you retrieve the coordinates. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:56, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! See email. ⇒T A P 13:05, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You did copy my programming for google books and ref maker didn't you? Just wondering why you don't go to google books as a first resort. Google books then highbeam should be in order of priority. Most web based sources on hotels are crap although for some hotels you might find difficulty finding anything in the books and have to rely on them...♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:53, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. User:Thine Antique Pen/vector.js. ⇒T A P 13:55, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for The Ritz-Carlton, Georgetown

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Yngvadottir (talk) 16:02, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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User:Jordon (WMF)

Great job.Catching a cheater is a wonderful task.By the way, I was just curious that how did u contacted Okeyes (WMF) off wiki? Max Viwe | Viwe The Max 13:59, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is always the Special:EmailUser button! I've contacted Oliver before though. ⇒T A P 14:01, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oho..I thought you met him in person.Anyways..sorry for wrong assumption.Max Viwe | Viwe The Max 14:04, 30 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you! ⇒T A P 07:50, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Nice job!

I've stayed at the The Churchill Hotel! Nice job. MBisanz ^talk 01:51, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Have you? There aren't many online sources for things like this; not even HighBeam or Google Books... ⇒T A P 07:48, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, mid-last year. I live in the DC area and agree there aren't many resources on local places like that. MBisanz ^talk 00:12, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Reassessing Justin Bieber on Twitter?

This article is nominated as AFD. I wonder if you can have this article reassessed for its qualifications as a good article. --George Ho (talk) 17:55, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have a think after AfD then the FAC closes; not yet. ⇒T A P 18:27, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's not clear to me how an AfD nomination requires a GA review. If the article is kept at AfD, then clearly the AfD nomination did not indicate an insuperable problem with the article. If the article is deleted at AfD, then a GA review is not required anyway.

Incidentally, the article has now been copy-edited extensively as part of the FAC process, so even if it was teetering on GA failure for prose before, it should be in much better shape now. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:36, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hence me meaning the following. If the article survives articles for deletion AND that I believe it need a GAR, I shall do so. If not, ehh, nah. ⇒T A P 18:44, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Talk:Justin Bieber on Twitter/GA1

I was just reading over this and I am particularly concerned that you passed this with some glaring problems in its prose, contrary to the guideline. Do you do a lot of GA reviewing? It certainly shouldn't have been passed in the condition it was in (it's got slightly worse since) and is a no-hoper at the FA. I am not sure how best to proceed now; I suppose to some degree I am looking for your input about whether this was a one-off glitch in the process or a deeper problem. What do you think? --John (talk) 21:36, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi John! I'm mentoring Thine Antique Pen (at his request, not due to any externally enforced requirement), so I'll comment briefly on this as he may already be asleep (as I should be, quite soon).

He hasn't yet done a lot of GA reviewing, in fact I believe he has done about as many reviews as he has GAs (six of the latter at present, I think). He may have been unlucky in stumbling into a super-controversial topic to review (with a moderately controversial author, I hope Laura doesn't mind me saying so!) while still finding his feet.

What I did emphasise to him was that he should be thorough in the review, rather than a quick "yes/no/maybe" tick-box over-positive exercise. (I imagine you've seen the sort of thing I mean.) When I very briefly skimmed over the review, it was obvious that he had taken that advice to heart, and had spent some hours writing out what he thought needed doing to bring the article up to GA standard.

Because I had an inkling that controversy might be in the stars, I also suggested that he ask a more seasoned GA reviewer (which I am not!) to look over his review in more detail. I believe he asked Dr Blofeld, who has 40 FAs to his name, countless GAs, and a cat with heterochromia iridum, to do this. From my understanding, Blofeld was ok with the review.

I've just now quickly looked at the FAC comments so far, and I agree the examples of bad prose given are really quite serious ones. On the other hand, some are fixed (apparently) with comments like "added a comma". I have a problem here - I've copyedited a dozen long articles to GA standard, but I don't know how bad the prose has to be to fail a GA. I'm quite serious, here; I've seen some copyedits "for GA" that have left the resulting articles with sentence fragments and run-on sentences and god knows what else, and no negative feedback ever appeared, and the article made GA.

Moving back to your original question, I don't think it can be claimed that TAP's GA review was just one that he had paid less attention to or slipped up on - on the contrary, it was one that he spent a lot of time on and was proud of. On the other hand, a lot of GA reviews are similar, in my experience - there is a huge gulf between GA prose requirements and FA prose requirements. This article was presumably at the lower end of the GA acceptable scale, and a million miles off the FA acceptable scale.

The FAC looks almost certain to fail now anyway, so that's that problem out of the way. I don't see why the article itself couldn't be re-listed at the GOCE Requests page to sort out the remaining issues for prose-at-GA standard.

I will have limited internet access until Tuesday evening. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:23, 1 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't comment on the review I don't think. In fact I long said it contains unnecessary bloat and would best be merged.. Some prose issues aside, I don't think you can blame TAP too much as his review was fair. Perhaps he should have requested a second opinion. But I'm shocked it has been nominated for an FA,♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:50, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I actually believe that FAC was a disaster idea and peer review would've been best, many times, before it gets nominated. ⇒T A P 18:26, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am disappointed you didn't respond more positively to my feedback. To me the article fails on criteria 1a, 1b, 3b (at least). I see it is currently undergoing a community reassessment and an AfD discussion. It would be great if you could acknowledge you misread this one. --John (talk) 10:01, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

He said below - before you posted this - that he would consider doing a GAR on it if it survives AfD. I'm not quite understanding what you're looking for here. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 15:14, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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A cup of coffee for you!

Get a coffee. You need it. I don't know why I would have or have not bothered about it, but I actually just didn't get you, that's all. Enjoy! Dipankan ^{(Have a chat?)} 16:27, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

glug* :) Thanks! ⇒T A P 16:28, 4 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Humpty Dumpty

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GAs

Hi.

Your userpage says you have significantly contributed to six GAs. The tooltips of the little icons at the top say you wrote Romanian Volunteer Corps in Russia, Seara (newspaper), and Ioan C. Filitti. In reality, you made three, two, and four edits to these articles, respectively. And not significant edits, mind you. These articles were written mostly by Dahn (talk · contribs).

It's really not a good idea to misrepresent your contributions to articles. It's dishonest; it makes you look bad; it's an insult to Dahn. If you want more silly icons, just write more GAs. As in, not just changing a word or two.

I'm sure you understand and will remove these claims, apologize to Dahn, etc., etc.

/ƒETCH COMMS / 17:49, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll remove them. In the time though, I need an efficient way to make User:Thine Antique Pen/Good Article Nominations into a topicon. ⇒T A P 17:52, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Very well. /ƒETCH COMMS / 22:04, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fetchcomms, can I take credit for the Foxley Wood DYK? ;) Drmies (talk) 22:08, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Right kiddies, that's quite enough squabbling over who has what icons. Yes, you may use whatever icons you like, with one or two well-established exceptions. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:24, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think anyone was squabbling over icons. In fact, the original issue I raised was not over which icons were used, but rather what claims they made. And Drmies, go right ahead, but I might have to drop by your talk page soon and leave you a note, too! (Or I could just change the icon to a penguin ... oh wait.) /ƒETCH COMMS / 03:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it certainly looks like it - but go right ahead, if you have nothing better to do. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 03:45, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thine Antique Pen: I see you are still working on Old City Hall (Berlin), and I'm afraid I am still concerned by the high level of inaccuracy in your latest additions. To give two examples, sanierung is not sanitation, but renovation or repair; and in talking about the replacement statue of Fortuna, you have left out entirely that it's a replacement statue and in fact just left an incomplete weight conversion template sitting there. From the parts of the article that I have cleaned up so far, it is apparent that you are not careful enough in clicking on the links in the German article and seeing where they go and whether there is an interwiki to en.wikipedia; you should not have confused the Social Association of Germany with the National-Social Association, for example. (I undid that confusion by making the former into a stub.) I wonder how much knowledge of German you actually have? If you have not studied it, please could I ask you to stop working on this article and not translate any further articles from German until you have studied it? If you have studied it, please, slow down, follow the links more carefully, and look at the overall meaning of the sentence and the group of sentences. It is better to produce a shorter article containing only the essential information that you fully understand (and can support with references) and leave others to expand it in the future than to guess at the meaning and risk getting it wrong, especially if you don't preview for things like that broken conversion template describing nothing. I'm not talking about a tiny stub or even an article that barely meets the 1,500-character minimum length for Did You Know; what you have now is a fairly long article, much of which requires quite a lot of overhauling. An article half that length would be adequate. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:30, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, sure. I shall slow down. I must say, Old City Hall (Berlin) is a rewrite using my quite poor wording of topics. ⇒T A P 20:33, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Why on earth did you upload File:Former Redirect.svg and File:Former Redirect.png and similar here? The proper place for such stuff is the Commons. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:37, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

He might have been following his mentor's bad example, see File:Contrib pie Demiurge1000.PNG.

Not sure this is a "why on earth?" moment - a lot of people seem to prefer having images on local wikis rather than Commons even where the file is eligible for Commons, although it's certainly arguable that actually they shouldn't. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 09:56, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For example, {{keep local}} could be used. ⇒T A P 09:58, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of The Melrose Hotel

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Hey TAP, can you help me in promoting that to a DYK? Your help will be appreciated. Dipankan ^{(Have a chat?)} 09:42, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be able to have a go later. :D ⇒T A P 10:15, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Warfaze (band)

Hi, I have provided a reliable source for the article. I couldn't find any part of the article as copied. Please kindly explain --Kmzayeem (talk) 15:45, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It might be reliable, but lots of the article was copied. I believe 300 words. ⇒T A P 15:47, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok but I think I can rewrite the article what should I do now?? --Kmzayeem (talk) 16:09, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would not recommend a rewrite of a copyright violation. ⇒T A P 16:12, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I mean I can rewrite the article with my own words. The band fulfills the criteria to have an article in wikipedia. So what should I do?? --Kmzayeem (talk) 16:21, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do not rewrite it in your own words. Look for about 10-15 sources, then come back, and list them all. It's tough, but my way to establish notability of a band. ⇒T A P 16:25, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Do not rewrite it in your own words" is not really very good advice. Re-writing the article in the editor's own words is indeed exactly what must be done in order for there to be a valid article. You are correct that sources are required, but ten to fifteen is far more than is normally necessary, if they are independent reliable sources and they each contain significant coverage of the band itself. Da Gryptions is an example of a band that are just borderline notable enough for Wikipedia; their article has less than ten separate independent reliable sources. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:44, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) I was going to say what Demiurge said. You need to rewrite it so it's not a copyvio anymore. Also, a handful of proper reliable sources should be enough. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 16:49, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The reason for so many is the fact that I'm guessing that some of them will not be reliable at all. ⇒T A P 16:51, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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IRC

A quick word? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:02, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Replied to email, I am inactive on IRC. ⇒T A P 18:04, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Agneta Matthes

When I received the invitation of Dr. Blofeld to look at the translation of Agneta Matthes I did not know that he was not responsible for the article and that it was nominated for DYK. As you may have seen, I looked at it from time. I just finished copy-editing. Sigh. Comments: 1) This article should not have been in Main space like this, there is User space to start an article and get it to a state that can be published, most hilarious find was "Agneta Matthes found out that her husband had a child in 1871, who at the time was 15-year-old Mary of Rotterdam Eringaard." for Agneta Matthes found out that her husband had begun in 1871 a relationship with Mary Eringaard, then aged 15, with whom he had four children." 2) I translated more and more freely, please check if it's still correct. 3) For DYK, you will have to source more. 4) I think the DYK hook is too moderate for her achievements, and should have a picture. 4) I started Matthes, overdue. 5) I will include myself as contributor in the nomination. 6) I really had no time for this ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:54, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Where's Merkez district? Please add district to the lead and also a district category. Census was 2010 not 2011, the lead now says as of 2011 and the infobox 2010.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:37, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

According to [6], it was 2011. Also, the district is supported by that. I shall do so. ⇒T A P 18:43, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are adding hundreds of articles about loactions which really seem irrelevant. There must be a cultural, economical, historical or archaeological relevance - a location with i.e. 16 people is not relevant! --House1630 (talk) 18:44, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Common_outcomes#Places, and the fact that they are not /normally/ deleted, regardless of size. ⇒T A P 18:45, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Goldsland has a population of 2 people I think. I beg to differ. Irrelevant according to whom? This is where you are inherently biased and failing to see the world as it is and how wikipedia must overcome such obstacle. They are notable to the people who live there. Vast majority of human settlement are notables. Might not be as relevant as a 600,000 city in China but still.. Well if source says 2011 go with 2011 but make sure the box matches!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:54, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I worked out that there is either five or six of them with the 2010 in the Infobox, so I'll look at my contributions and clean that up when the replag is down to something where I can load 'em up! I also think that WP:IDONTLIKEIT applies in this case. ⇒T A P 18:56, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if you think you and other editor can do the work to expand those hundreds of articles - I wish you good luck! --House1630 (talk) 19:08, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes on the Turkish version there is no link to the English version. --House1630 (talk) 21:59, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think you could fix that, House1630 ? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:02, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Example Abadan, Çubuk - seems a good article in Turkish ! --House1630 (talk) 22:09, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Get your facts right, I didn't create that. I find the Turkish version reads like an advertisement. ⇒T A P 22:12, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am the most incompetent person you can find in Turkish, and it is never expected of an editor to go tag all their own articles on random Wikipedias, which the user might not know have an article on this. An Interwiki Bot will do this. ⇒T A P 22:07, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

see Battle of Hanna - I wonder why it is only in English and German. --House1630 (talk) 22:18, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiProject Indian Premier League

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My talk page

Hello, TAP. Please do not revert an edit on my talk page again, specially if it is my edit. :) Cheers, Riley Huntley _talk No talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here. 08:50, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. You re-added a load of vandal warning templates which were false and not your edits. These came from the IPs talk page. I see no reason to keep them. ⇒T A P 08:51, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's Riley's talkpage, and seemingly Riley does see a reason to keep them. So I suggest you stay away from his talk page, and find something else to do. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 08:53, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It as already been requested by me for you to edit elsewhere (away from me) and I would appreciate if you follow that request. I am aware of where the warnings came from and what the IP was doing so there was no need for you to revert my edit on my own talk page. I wanted them there as they were linked as evidence for misuse of warnings (easier for admins to see instead of searching my talkpage history). Even if there was no reason to keep them, the owner of a talk page can archive the warnings themselves. Cheers, Riley Huntley _talk No talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here. 08:59, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd personally use diffs for evidence of misuse of warnings. ⇒T A P 09:01, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am glad that you would personally use diffs but it is easier for me to link my talk page instead of there diffs. :) Cheers, Riley Huntley _talk No talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here. 09:07, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

For example, this. See {{diff}}. ⇒T A P 09:11, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You really think I do not know how to link differences? This conversation is over. Cheers, Riley Huntley _talk No talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here. 09:15, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No; I do not think that. That was just as an example. ⇒T A P 09:16, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You really think that I needed an example*? Cheers, Riley Huntley _talk No talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here. 09:18, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Of course not, but it is my personal preference to give one, regardless of the editor. ⇒T A P 09:19, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ah thanks but I didn't want one nor need one. This conversation is over, no need to reply :) Cheers, Riley Huntley _talk No talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here. 09:25, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Nicki minaj Pound The Alarm OfficialCover.png

Hi Tom,
I removed (and thus declined) your file rename request per Wikipedia:File mover#What files should not be renamed?. mabdul 22:08, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RfA Standards

I saw here that you require 50 articles, 45 if one GA, 40 if one FA. Asides from the fact that the majority of the current admin corps would not meet this, does that still apply for candidates with more than one FA or GA (for example, you would support if someone had 4 GAs, 2 FAs and 12 other articles)? Also, do they have to have created the GA/FA themselves, or does it also count if they've improved another article to GA/FA status?--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 18:15, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

They're not that good and I shall update them soon. ⇒T A P 22:30, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Did you know nominations/Mont Sainte-Victoire and the Viaduct of the Arc River Valley

Hi. can you comment on Template:Did you know nominations/Mont Sainte-Victoire and the Viaduct of the Arc River Valley so the review can be moved along? :) --LauraHale (talk) 03:27, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Altes Stadthaus, Berlin

On 18 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Altes Stadthaus, Berlin, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that a 400 kg (880 lb) statue of the Berlin bear was removed from the city administrative building Altes Stadthaus (pictured) and given to the East Berlin zoo in 1959? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article Feedback newsletter

Hey all!

So, big news this week - on Tuesday, we ramped up to 5 percent of articles :). There's been a lot more feedback (pardon the pun) as I'm sure you've noticed, and to try and help we've scheduled a large number of office hours sessions, including one this evening at 22:00 UTC in the #wikimedia-office ^connect channel, and another at 01:00 UTC for the aussies amongst us :). I hope to see some of you there - if any of you can't make it but have any questions, I'm always happy to help.

Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 20:42, 20 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ludwig Hoffmann (architect)

On 23 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ludwig Hoffmann (architect), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Ludwig Hoffmann designed the fountain of fairy tales in the Volkspark Friedrichshain which features sculptures of fairy tale characters? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Märchenbrunnen

On 23 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Märchenbrunnen, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Ludwig Hoffmann designed the fountain of fairy tales in the Volkspark Friedrichshain which features sculptures of fairy tale characters? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Agneta Matthes & Agneta Park

Hello! Your submission of Agneta Matthes & Agneta Park at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! LauraHale (talk) 10:33, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. ⇒T A P 10:34, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm impressed

	New Leaf Award
	I'm pleased to see your continued improvements in quality of content, and in staying out of "harm's way". I did always say you had potential to be a good editor if you stayed on the right track. (note: the choice of an olive branch for the image is intentional) Cheers! (✉→BWilkins←✎) 13:10, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! ⇒T A P 13:12, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Four Seasons Hotel, Washington, D.C.

Hi. The infobox for Four Seasons Hotel, Washington, D.C. says that they are the owner. Are you sure this is true? According to the article on the Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts, "Four Seasons does not own most of its properties; it operates them on behalf of real estate owners and developers." Viriditas (talk) 20:49, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

After a Google search (and Google Books), I could find nothing to go against this, but would be happy to remove it if you wish. :) ⇒T A P 21:00, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It should be easy to find the owner. We just need to know where to look. However, feel free to leave that parameter blank if you wish. Viriditas (talk) 21:03, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Village Pump proposals: discussion on speedying machine translations

Letting you know that after fixing Ackerstraße I revisited the discussion there and used both Altes Stadthaus, Berlin and Ackerstraße as examples, since you and Dr Blofeld had both used the former as a good example. I am afraid you show little awareness of how poor your translations are when you mainspace them, and although there have been some splendid examples of teamwork cleaning them up - and those of another editor I have in mind, it's time to face the fact that those editors could and probably would have been doing other worthwhile things with the time. Especially if the articles get rapidly nominated for DYK so that there is time pressure to clean them up. I would a lot rather see you work on articles like the Cézanne painting, where the sources are in English and I'm pretty sure you have access to them? But perhaps you read Russian well and just need to be more careful checking for existing Wikipedia articles (and common redlinks) to link to? Unfortunately, you aren't alone in not translating carefully or with enough awareness of what is required to do it well. I would not have mentioned your name, but since you brought up your work ... I have to say I disagree with the way you presented it at that discussion. Yngvadottir (talk) 23:03, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

TAP, you need to work harder at this, and I don't just mean working more slowly or keeping articles in your userspace for longer. (You should also do both of those). Yngvadottir has been generous in his comments on your articles, but really you need to stop nominating articles for DYK unless a third party (e.g. Yngvadottir) has already reviewed them and confirmed that the translation problems are within acceptable bounds. Do you understand this? Do you agree?

You really need to slow down, a lot. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:14, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. ⇒T A P 10:18, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Adrienne Thomas (writer) could have done with waiting. It's in mainspace with no footnotes (and German abbrevs. and explanations in the References section) and no indication of why her writing is important. Instead her marriage is foregrounded. This source listed in the de.wikipedia article indicates she was a Jewish writer with an important career both before and after emigration to escape the Nazis - and a thrilling escape story. It also shows that she was married twice (she began writing only after the death of her first husband) and gives the date of her second marriage as 1941; the fr.wikipedia article in this instance is better, and agrees. Her maiden name and the highlights of her life and career should be in our article; why create an article on somebody without telling their story? I also consider it part of covering an author on en.wikipedia to hunt down full publication info on their works in OCLC; English-language scholarship traditionally gives the publisher as well as the location and year, and en.wikipedia wants ISBNs or OCLC numbers so readers can look them up. Why did you take this live immediately? What's the rush? Yngvadottir (talk) 15:09, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm working on it. Also the fact that I won't be having internet for a while shortly. ⇒T A P 15:12, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Then it would seem a good candidate to stay in userspace until you think you've got a good picture of what is important about her career; or in view of the internet access thing, I'd have drafted this one offline on a word processor. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:21, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Userspaced. ⇒T A P 16:28, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the co-nom

It's live now. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:29, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Why?

Why are you going through people's userspace and nominating redlinked redirects there for speedy deletion? Surely people can figure out for themselves if they want their sandboxes deleted? LadyofShalott 15:17, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Got to agree with LadyofShalott here, this isn't a good idea. Those redirects show where the page has ended up (by looking at the "A page with this title has previously been deleted." box) and so they are useful. They're in another editors user space and aren't doing harm, so I really don't think they fit "speedy" deletion. Worm^TT(talk) 15:24, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, OK. I was going through Special:BrokenRedirects and noticed that many other sandboxes had been deleted there for being broken redirects. ⇒T A P 15:41, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

re Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Death watch beetle (Dungeons & Dragons)

Hello, I am wondering if you can give a fuller explanation of your closure and how you weighed the policies behind the arguments, or did you just do a snout count? -- The Red Pen of Doom 17:23, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm getting there! Give me a short time. Thine Antique Pen 17:24, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

TAP, non-admin closures should really be only in obvious "keep" situations. It's generally accepted that more "difficult" calls are left to admins. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 17:28, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've expanded my comment, but I'm now considering reverting the closure. Thine Antique Pen 17:32, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to chime in here and say that a discussion as contentious as this one has been is definitely not eligible for a non-admin close. Although I do think no consensus will be the ultimate result, for what it's worth. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 17:39, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Reverted myself. Thine Antique Pen 17:40, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Good call. —Torchiest ^talk_edits 17:41, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Thanks for having the humility and cognizance to self-revert. I do have to say, if you want to close unambiguous/unanimous "keep" AfDs, overworked admins (coughcoughmecough) would appreciate it. (God, I haven't closed an AfD in months...)

thank you for both the fuller explanation and for the withdrawal of the closure. -- The Red Pen of Doom 18:15, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit requests

Can you help improve these articles in my user space:

They need a copy edit before I take them to DYK. Will happily give you credit for helping make the prose flow better. :D --LauraHale (talk) 10:30, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe, OK. :D ⇒T A P 10:31, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

User:LauraHale/Matthew Bugg also needs a copy edit before going to DYK. :) --LauraHale (talk) 11:54, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Shall do! I just failed at moving something. Probably because I clicked "move page" without clicking "(main)", then later changing it by clicking "(main)" and resubmitting the move. :P ⇒T A P 11:56, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A very circular redirect

Not sure where you want this to go Amanita excelsa var. excelsa. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:05, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I tried clicking it for ten or fifteen minutes to see if it would eventually go somewhere. No luck. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 13:07, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Supreme facepalm of destiny: I can't type today! Fixed. ⇒T A P 13:08, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned image of Bane's face

Hello, and thank you for adding a section to my talk page. I uploaded that image for the DKR article, but it was being reverted and there was a discussion on it, but I believe the case is closed and my image now appears in the article. Have a pleasant day. Farhadpersia (talk) 17:14, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Removed deletion tag from image. Thank you for notifying me that action had been taken! Thine Antique Pen 17:20, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

Pommy wheelchair basketball players!

LauraHale (talk) 09:45, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Thine Antique Pen 09:46, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations, from STiki !

	The Anti-Vandalism + STiki Barnstar
	Congratulations, Thine Antique Pen! You're receiving this barnstar because you recently crossed the 1,000 classification threshold using STiki. We thank you both for your contributions to Wikipedia at-large and your use of the tool. We hope you continue your ascent up the leaderboard and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! West.andrew.g (developer) and DBig Xray 12:12, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Thine Antique Pen 12:18, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Awarded by Strike Eagle to TAP for his prolific article creation.Thanks man! TheStrike Σagle 12:15, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Thine Antique Pen 12:17, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Ackerstraße

On 27 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ackerstraße, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Berlin Wall Memorial in Bernauer Straße includes a reconciliation chapel on the site of a church in Ackerstraße that was destroyed because it stood in the border strip? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Gedenkstätte Berliner Mauer

On 27 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gedenkstätte Berliner Mauer, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Berlin Wall Memorial in Bernauer Straße includes a reconciliation chapel on the site of a church in Ackerstraße that was destroyed because it stood in the border strip? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agneta Matthes

Hi, Thine Antique Pen, I'm beginning the copy-edit you requested for the above article at the GOCE Request page. Please feel free to contact me, or to revert or correct my edits if I'm doing something I shouldn't. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 00:29, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done - please feel free to contact me about any ongoing issues regarding the copy-edit. cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 08:10, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Agneta Matthes

On 29 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Agneta Matthes, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Agneta Matthes and her husband (pictured), who ran factories in Delft producing yeast, perfume, and margarine, developed a workers' housing area in garden city style, Agneta Park? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

— Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:04, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Agneta Park

On 29 July 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Agneta Park, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Agneta Matthes and her husband (pictured), who ran factories in Delft producing yeast, perfume, and margarine, developed a workers' housing area in garden city style, Agneta Park? You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

— Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:04, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiCup 2012 July newsletter

We're approaching the beginning of 2012's final round. Pool A sees Cwmhiraeth (submissions) as the leader, with 300 points being awarded for the featured article Bivalvia, and Pool B sees Grapple X (submissions) in the lead, with 10 good articles, and over 35 articles eligible for good topic points. Pool A sees Muboshgu (submissions) in second place with a number of articles relating to baseball, while Pool B's Ruby2010 (submissions) follows Grapple X, with a variety of contributions including the high-scoring, high-importance featured article on the 2010 film Pride & Prejudice. Ruby2010, like Grapple X, also claimed a number of good topic points; despite this, not a single point has been claimed for featured topics in the contest so far. The same is true for featured portals.

Currently, the eighth-place competitor (and so the lowest scorer who would reach the final round right now) has scored 332, more than double the 150 needed to reach the final round last year. In 2010, however, 430 was the lowest qualifying score. In this competition, we have generally seen scores closer to those in 2010 than those in 2011. Let's see what kind of benchmark we can set for future competitions! As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 22:35, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

		The Giant (and slightly pixelated) Barnstar of Awesomeness!
		You, sir, are a bigger star than even this hefty beast. Thank you so much for your help cleaning up User:Ramesh Ramaiah's copyvio chaos; it saved me a ton of work. Yunshui 雲‍水 22:49, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Thine Antique Pen 22:53, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Page Triage newsletter

Hey all. Some quick but important updates on what we've been up to and what's coming up next :).

The curation toolbar, our Wikimedia-supported twinkle replacement. We're going to be deploying it, along with a pile of bugfixes, to wikipedia on 9 August. After a few days to check it doesn't make anything explode or die, we'll be sticking up a big notice and sending out an additional newsletter inviting people to test it out and give us feedback :). This will be followed by two office hours sessions - one on Tuesday the 14th of August at 19:00 UTC for all us Europeans, and one on Wednesday the 15th at 23:00 UTC for the East Coasters out there :). As always, these will be held in #wikimedia-office; drop me a note if you want to know how to easily get on IRC, or if you aren't able to attend but would like the logs.

I hope to see a lot of you there; it's going to be a big day for everyone involved, I think :). I'll have more notes after the deployment! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 20:13, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Can't make either! Thine Antique Pen (public) 20:36, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File mover rights

Would you be able to tell me how many rename media I have done? Thanks, Obtund^Talk 17:20, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be able to take a look when I have better Internet access, or when I get back from Spain. Thine Antique Pen (public) 18:59, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- You have added the {{rename media}} template to 7 files. 6 of the 7 files were moved. :) -- Cheers, Riley Huntley _talk No talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here. 19:40, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just a quick q...when do you think I will be ready to apply because I have like 14 or something now. Obtund^Talk 02:03, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Give it atleast a month. I understand that that is a long time but they want to see experience and pateince. -- Cheers, Riley Huntley _talk No talkback needed; I'll temporarily watch here. 15:47, 9 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New Pages newsletter

Hey all :)

A couple of new things.

First, you'll note that all the project titles have now changed to the Page Curation prefix, rather than having the New Pages Feed prefix. This is because the overarching project name has changed to Page Curation; the feed is still known as New Pages Feed, and the Curation Toolbar is still the Curation Toolbar. Hopefully this will be the last namechange ;p.

On the subject of the Curation Toolbar (nice segue, Oliver!) - it's now deployed on Wikipedia. Just open up any article in the New Pages Feed and it should appear on the right.

It's still a beta version - bugs are expected - and we've got a lot more work to do. But if you see something going wrong, or a feature missing, drop me a note or post on the project talkpage and I'll be happy to help :). Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 00:09, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Köllnischer Park

On 11 August 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Köllnischer Park, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the Köllnischer Park in Berlin houses bears (one pictured), known as the city mascots? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Köllnischer Park. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE July 2012 barnstar

		The Minor Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to Thine Antique Pen for copy editing at least one article in the GOCE July copy edit drive. Thank you for participating! Dianna (talk) 01:00, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Thine Antique Pen (public) 16:21, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agneta Matthes GA

I've given the initial review. Will finish the other part later today. Enjoy your vacation! TheSpecialUser ^TSU 02:57, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Update on user-rights topic ban

Hi Thine Antique Pen. Since you seem to have found it, I thought I would confirm what's going on - by my understanding. After thoroughly reviewing your behaviour over the past few months, I had this conversation with Mbisanz and Fluffernutter. It was agreed that the topic ban that you are currently under is not fit for purpose, in those situations where you actually require a user-right, it is requested by proxy - causing even more problems than you requesting the rights yourself.

As the topic ban was not community imposed, but rather an unblocking agreement, you can consider it changed. You are now allowed to request user rights yourself, however you should discuss the matter with me first. If I endorse the user right request, you may request it in the usual manner. NB, I will not be giving you any user rights, nor my endorsement guarantee your acceptance - it will only allow you to make the request, subject to the standard community scrutiny. Worm^TT(talk) 11:48, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks! Thine Antique Pen (public) 11:59, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 13 August 2012

Op-ed: Small Wikipedias' burden

News and notes: Bangla-language survey suggests the challenges for small Wikipedias

Arbitration report: You really can request for arbitration

Featured content: On the road again

Technology report: "Phabricating" a serious alternative to Gerrit

WikiProject report: Dispute Resolution

Discussion report: Image placeholders, machine translations, Mediation Committee, de-adminship

Yo yo

You have comments per your request here. All the best! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:05, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A pie for you!

You are awarded this pie from the WikiProject IPL as a reward for joining our WikiProject. You may want to stay connected with discussions, therefore, we suggest you put the WikiProject's talk page in your watchlist. Great to have you! Dipankan ^{(Have a chat?)} 11:08, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! It's actually already on my Watchlist! Thine Antique Pen 11:09, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The IPL Newsletter July 2012

	WikiProject IPL's Monthly newsletter (July, 2012)
Current updates: The coordinator elections will be held soon! Keep your eyes on our project in mid-August for more. Chennai Super Kings was selected as the FA/GA of the month, but due to lack of contributors to the article, we could not pass it as a GA. We're looking forward for contributors who are interested in the topic. The only problem with the article is to fix it's references and cite more reliable sources. If you do a lot of referencing work, you're most welcome! An IRC meetup was held to discuss future plans of the project and to discuss ideas for new articles. Seven editors were a part of it. The log of the meeting can be founded here. We hope that more such meetups will talk place. Our portal was launched early this month. You can find it here. We congratulate our vice-coordinator, Vibhijain, for working on this. Users are welcome to suggest new ideas to re innovate the portal and make it more customized. We also have a book, Book:Indian Premier League. Knights of IPL, a new award, has been launched. It was earlier known as IPL barnstar 1. Created by User:Strike Eagle, this is the highest award given by our community, and, hence, shall never be given for completing Tasks of the month. For completing Task of the month, please feel free to distribute another award by our communnity: IPL Barnstar. To distribute it, type {{subst:IPL Barnstar}} and save the page. For a list of people who have received Knights of IPL, please refer here. Upon request by the lead coordinator (Dipankan001), YuviPanda has created the all new Automatic Assessment tool for WikiProject IPL. If you want to install this script, please copy the text at User:YuviPanda/common.js to your page at Special:MyPage/common.js. It is quite easy to install and will help you very much. This newsletter have been sent to you because you are a member of WikiProject IPL. To discontinue receiving WikiProject IPL newsletters, please add your name here.
The IPL WikiProject • Discussion

You had missed this so thought of delivering it to you. Also, do you have a Facebook account? You can connect with WP IPL anytime at this page. Thanks! @Dipankan ^{(Have a chat?)} 11:24, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe, thanks! Yeah, I've got a Facebook account, but I prefer to keep my real name private. Thine Antique Pen 11:26, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

KXIP cricketers

While working on such list, try to be more cricketing, i.e., players list has not much to do with season wise performance, stadiums, owner, etc. Instead, try to add personal record, like most runs, most centuries, most wickets, best bowling average, most catches, just what have been done at List of Delhi Daredevils cricketers. Also do add the paragraph about the tables (refer to the lat para of the DD list), and some notes to make the list more clear. If you need any help, just ask me and I will decorate your list from head to toe. :) ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ ^Talk ^Email 17:13, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Could you decorate? Thine Antique Pen 10:16, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My RfA

Thank you for participating in my RfA. I appreciate that you had taken the time to look over my nomination and gave me serious consideration as a prospective administrator. I've noticed your activity around RfA in general recently, and I think it's great that you're involved in such an important process for the functioning of this site. Keep it up, we need more admins, and certainly more people involved in getting qualified users through RfA. =) Kurtis (talk) 17:14, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fuad al Muqtadir

Hi TAP, this is just to let you know that I deleted Fuad al Muqtadir, but per CSD G4, not CSD G12. The WikiBin page that you linked to was just a repository of the old Wikipedia article that was deleted (via Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fuad al Muqtadir), and so wasn't a copyright violation. Thanks — Mr. Stradivarius ^{(have a chat)} 19:06, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, thanks! I'd actually only just saw the AfD template on the talk page before you deleted it! Thine Antique Pen 19:07, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

After I am done my exam today, I will look it over. If someone else takes it over, they can. I dont have any issue with it :D Khyati Gupta (talk) 09:37, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I added suggestions, please see. Thank you. Khyati Gupta (talk) 22:08, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Are you following WP:WIADYK, or your own criteria? I don't see anything there about copyedits, and I've never came across something the scale of your request to me. I've came across copyediting suggestions before, but these only required about a couple of words changing. If you could write more than just "reword it", I would try my best. Thanks!

Thine Antique Pen 22:15, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Problems solved

Instead of notifying in your alternative user talk page I preferred to come here. I would like to thank you for pointing out the problems with Nawabs of Bengal and Murshidabad and at the same would like to notify you that the problems you mentioned here have been solved. Waiting eagerly for a reply! --Tamravidhir(২০১২) 14:34, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If replying then please reply at my talk page. Thank you!

Please do not stop reviewing Nawabs of Bengal and Murshidabad. Is it a GA or not? Please reply at my talk page or address here Tamravidhir(২০১২) 10:30, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you are on a holiday or if you are taking a Wikibreak then please tell me whether it will become a GA or not, if so then when? Tamravidhir(২০১২) 10:36, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Passed. Thine Antique Pen 11:20, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK section the second

Re Template:Did you know nominations/Ontario Highway 22, please see my statement and attempt to resolve the issue that I raised. Note that I don't have regular Internet access, so I may be unable to respond before your bedtime tomorrow; if you reply and I don't respond for more than a day or two, please remind me at my talk page. Nyttend (talk) 03:51, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]