User talk:Remsense/Archive 5

What's the rationale behind removing a climate change section under environmental impacts of technology?

Pollution is a distinct consequence, and climate change confers its own subsequent consequences, e.g. mass extinction, extreme weather, and sea-level rise. Plus, its not really technology itself causing climate change, but rather, arguably, (and this can be framed as a npov discussion) the misapplication of technology to the environment. Climate change and global warming are also distinct concepts, and the transformative effects of technology to our global environment that surrounds us are surely worth mentioning on a wikipedia page about technology, given it is cited properly, I see little reason why you blanket revert this? It affects our societies and should be given due weight. AlaskanGrass (talk) 21:42, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

This isn't meant to be confrontational by the way, I just want to understand what your position is on this so we can work to get LVL-1 Vital Article Technology to GA status. AlaskanGrass (talk) 21:51, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

October music

story · music · places

You may remember Maryvonne Le Dizès, my story today as on 28 August. Some September music was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with Ligeti mentioned in story and music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:19, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Today I remember an organist who was pictured on the Main page on his birthday ten years ago, and I found two recent organ concerts to match, - see top of my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:13, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Today brought a timely promotion of Helmut Bauer to the Main page on the day when pieces from Mozart's Requiem were performed for him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:28, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

I made Leif Segerstam my big story today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:53, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for improving articles on October! - My story today is a cantata 300 years old, based on a hymn 200 years old when the cantata was composed, based on a psalm some thousand years old, - so said the 2015 DYK hook. I had forgotten the discussion on the talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Happy whatever you celebrate today, - more who died, more to come, and they made the world richer. Greetings from Madrid where I took the pic of assorted Cucurbita in 2016. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Need your help again with very small letters

You provided excellent help here https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Talk:Kompromat&diff=prev&oldid=1249461437 , and now I've encountered a similar situation with a Tibetan word at Tukdam. This little bit is from the lead ( Tibetan Buddhism, tukdam (Tibetan: ཐུགས་དམ, Wylie: thugs dam་) ), but the article is filled with them. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 14:10, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

@Remsense, will you be able to help with this? -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 16:40, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

I will be, my apologies. Will take a look at this ASAP. Remsense ‥ 论 16:42, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

No problem. I just wasn't sure if you had seen my message. There is no rush. Thanks again. Your skills and knowledge are appreciated! -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 17:09, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

@Valjean so sorry! Fixed the article, same deal—all I did was swap out {{lang}} with {{tlit}}. Remsense ‥ 论 22:20, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Much appreciated!! -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 22:33, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Uncited content

Hello. I've noticed you undid some of edits about removing uncited content. Well, there is a principle saying Wikipedia favors verifiability over truth. There is also another saying uncited stuff can either be challenged or removed. So I believe it is necessary to delete things that are unsourced. Anyway, by doing so, readers can be certain that the information they're reading is authentic. Nyam Nyam Tiger (talk) 23:26, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Nyam Nyam Tiger, just going about removing uncited text is not the way to improve the encyclopaedia. The first steps always involve: consulting sources cited elsewhere in the article to see if they support the uncited claims and can be used there; searching for alternative sources on the topic that can be used to cite the uncited passages; attempting a rewrite of the uncited text in such a way that the sources you've just consulted can be used for them.

There has never been a consensus in any discussion that content must be cited or be removed, except for certain edge cases about contentious topics, biographies of living people, and medical articles (I think).

Uncited material can indeed be challenged or removed. It is expected that editors will temper this activity with constructive contributions. Your edit history shows an average byte change of -454 bytes. You should try to help improve uncited content; remove it as a last resort. Folly Mox (talk) 23:41, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Again, if the behavior @Nyam Nyam Tiger was engaging in was desirable, we would have a bot do it. I do not care how bright the WP:BURDEN line is if it encourages editors to turn their brains totally off in their editing like this. Moreover, I do not feel the need to carefully assess such edits (within reason, I'm not restoring BLP slander), since they were explicitly made with no discernment to begin with. It's essentially unsolicited, disruptive WP:MEATBOTTING. If you can't articulate a good reason that considers anything at all about the text in context—as opposed to simply stating "the policy allows me to, so I do"—the edits you are making are bad. Remsense ‥ 论 23:53, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Removal of Topic on WP:ECR

My new topic added on Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Words to watch got removed because of WP:ECR. Apparently the topic falls on the Arbitration Committee-authorised sanctions. Since I'm not interested on creating an account, could you at least give me help on getting my complain heard? 179.6.1.90 (talk) 00:09, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

ECR aside, I don't think there is a lot one can do concerning this—this particular subject has been discussed quite a bit, and I don't think we're ever going to be happier with something other than what we have, coupled with editors going the extra mile on a per-discussion basis when nuance is required. Remsense ‥ 论 00:15, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Reverted edit on Sedition

Hey! I just noticed that you reverted my edits on Sedition page. I added lines "Sedition as defined under Section 124A of the Indian Penal Code has been replaced by Section 147 of Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita" to the page. You reverted my edits by mentioning "not a minor edit, unclear what the use is here, how is it defined?". The minor tag was wrongly inserted by me while publishing my edit. Also the use of the edit was that Indian Penal code has been repealed and replaced by Indian Parliament in 2023 with Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita. So, section 124A is now not applicable in India. So, I added this information to indicate this change. Gurkulsahoo (talk) 10:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Gurkulsahoo: not only did you use the WP:Minor edit tag, you also failed to provide a WP:Edit summary to explain such a substantial change. So of course it was reverted, what else could you expect? --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 11:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Are you seriously denying that Ancient Rome is not the only significant foundation of Western Civilization?

You haven’t even looked at the sources I provided, which weren’t necessary to begin with, since it’s obvious that Rome is not the sole basis of Western culture.

Asking me to discuss this on the Talk page is like debating whether the Sun is a star—it’s absurd. Do you consider yourself an educated person? Nocceta (talk) 23:19, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, we care about what specific claims reliable sources make for a given topic. We don't synthesize claims ourselves. One of our core content policies is verifiability—that is, verifiability, not truth. You put sourced information in with the sources; you do not change what was written to something that the sources don't themselves substantiate, nor do you cite sources that are not actually about the topic in question to draw your original conclusions. All you need to do is cite a source that makes the specific claim you want to cite, that Rome was one of the progenitors of Western civilization. It should not be that hard to do.

For what it's worth, it's funny you use the Sun is a star as an example—because how on earth would any of us know that if we couldn't point to a source that directly says it? Remsense ‥ 论 23:24, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

If you had spent even a few minutes examining the sources, you’d see that Rome is indeed recognized as one of the foundations of Western civilization. You could even contribute by adding a source you prefer, but instead, you've chosen to be antagonistic, simply deleting content and responding mechanically. And by that unreasonable logic, proving the Earth isn’t flat wouldn’t simply involve explaining its roundness with sources; instead, it would require finding a specific quote stating, ‘No, the Earth is not flat.’

No, you’ve just bent Wikipedia’s policies in the most absurd and Kafkaesque manner possible, wasting both your time and mine on a simple, self-evident issue. Congratulations, I suppose lmao. Nocceta (talk) 23:36, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

It is preferable to keep content in line with the sources cited: when prose is changed from what its sources say and it is not immediately noticed, it can take years for someone to discover that and fix it. This may sound trivial or antagonistic to you here in this case, but it is an important general principle to ensure that that we don't invent our own claims or formulations that do a disservice to readers. Remsense ‥ 论 23:41, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

I'll reiterate on this: yes, this is evident to you and me, but we're not writing for ourselves , are we? We already know! Why would you write it at all if it were self-evident? Consider someone who's learning about this for the first time. and cite sources that directly back up your claims accordingly. Remsense ‥ 论 23:49, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

It is far more detrimental for Wikipedia to imply and promote the idea that Western Civilization is solely a Roman product—a clear error and misinformation in the most objective sense—than what you claim about changing the prose.

You could choose to be proactive, search your preferable source and help to improve Wikipedia, or you could cling to your interpretation of the rules without contributing constructively.

I rest my case. All the best. Nocceta (talk) 23:55, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

If the "one of" claim is so vital, it really should not be difficult to source yourself as the person who is making the change. I encourage you to do so. This is not meaningfully my personal interpretation: WP:BURDEN and WP:SYNTH are fairly clear about this. Remsense ‥ 论 23:56, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Put it this way: no one wants to take your (or my) word for it. Remsense ‥ 论 00:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

No, remember that first I have to endure a torturous Kafkaesque wait in the Talk purgatory just to discuss this highly controversial topic. Nocceta (talk) 00:01, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm not forcing you to discuss anything, I'm just trying to explain why it's important to cite our sources. You're free to scamper off and do so. Remsense ‥ 论 00:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

User:Sharbel2

What the heck are you talking about? You do not have the authority to modify my block. Cullen328 (talk) 04:14, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

I struck it after going back to self-revert it to find I was too late, because I realized it was a joke based on what the user themselves said that really was not going to land. Apologies, I know other things are much more important at ANI. Remsense ‥ 论 04:19, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Your removal of material I added on the papacy is pure editorialism

I cited a reputable source in fact the Vatican itself

```` Montalban (talk) 13:37, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

We're a tertiary source, so why are you citing the Vatican itself if the point is to contextualize history? If there's no secondary source coverage of an event, it shouldn't be mentioned in an article like Eastern Orthodox opposition to papal supremacy. Remsense ‥ 论 18:07, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

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your refrigerator cannot be the product of a purely physical mechanism

@Remsense,

You reverted a 355 byte contribution I made, to another user (with whom I have never* interacted), on talk:physics. There is more context, for anyone willing to witness for themselves: see here.

It*’s tragic. On many levels it*’s tragic. And I’m not even thinking about my “small-self.”

your refrigerator cannot be the product of a purely physical mechanism

“Only inspired insight guided by faith in the simplicity of nature somehow revealed the interplay of the concepts of energy and entropy.”-Herbert Callen, p.461, “second edition”

To find such a fundamental opposition to personalism in one person is Extremely tragic. (You are the ground of your refrigerator’s reality, not the other way around!!)

To find such a fundamental opposition to personalism in the whole of Wikipedia, is extreme and tragic, extremely: Tragic!!!

“[A]rt cannot be kept sacred except by the consistency of its contents with its sacred normal character, and with the Ideal which, as embodied beauty, it shares with truth and good.”-not physics

For the l=oxv=e of l=ixf=e, Please repent! NedBoomerson (talk) 01:22, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

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Chuckles987

@Remsense, Martinevans123, and DrKay: I noticed that all of you have placed notices on Chuckles987's talk page. It is very clear to me that Chuckles987 is yet another sockpuppet of BlueDIAMOND20s. I have reported the issue at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/BlueDIAMOND20s, but diffs are required. I cannot find a good example of a diff at the moment (although the editing behaviour is exactly the same). If anyone finds a good example of a diff, please add it to the sockpuppet report. A list of some of BlueDIAMOND20s's sockpuppets can be found here: Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of BlueDIAMOND20s. Thank you. Khiikiat (talk) 11:46, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Special:WantedTemplates

Hi! I have been cleaning up WP:Database reports/Transclusions of non-existent templates and Special:WantedTemplates and I noticed that your javascript page is transcluding Template:Ubl\n. Due to a "feature" in the backend software, even though this is a javascript page, the software parses braces and brackets the same to generate links. It would be very helpful if you could add

 // <nowiki>

to the top of your script page and

 // </nowiki>

to the bottom of your script page. Because these <nowiki>...</nowiki> are inside of javascript comments, it won't impact the functionality of your script, but it will keep the backend sofware from thinking you are transcluding templates. Thanks in advance for your help! Plastikspork <sub>―Œ</sub><sup>(talk)</sup> 15:27, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for making me aware of this. That looks good, right? Remsense ‥ 论 21:33, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, thank you! Plastikspork <sub>―Œ</sub><sup>(talk)</sup> 00:37, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Reverted edit in City

Hey Remsense, may I know why is this edit reverted? I'm merely amending a link to the target article. hundenvonPG (talk) 21:27, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

See WP:NOTBROKEN. Remsense ‥ 论 21:33, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Reverting and undoing sourced material concerning the presence of Denisovan ancestry in South America and its' abscence in North America

The editions to the articles I edited explicitly contained references showing how Denisovan ancestry absent in North America were present in South Americans.

Let me quote from one of the sources.

https://www.fau.edu/newsdesk/articles/ancient-dna-south-america

“There is an entire Pacific Ocean between Australasia and the Americas, and we still don’t know how these ancestral genomic signals appeared in Central and South America without leaving traces in North America,” said Andre Luiz Campelo dos Santos, Ph.D., first author, an archaeologist and a postdoctoral fellow in FAU’s Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science."

Since the references says so and the references' studies are from reputable universities, I don't know why you reverted my edits. I hope we can come into a consensus concerning this matter. Truly Yours. --Rene Bascos Sarabia Jr. (talk) 06:40, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

You added a non-sequitur passage of historical genetics information to sections otherwise about historical ethnicity. Genetics and ethnicity are not the same subject. Remsense ‥ 论 21:43, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Christianization

Hi, why do you think this edit is unconstractive [1]? I didn't make changes to the content. Shahray (talk) 21:36, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Then what was the point of it? Remsense ‥ 论 21:42, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

First, I shortened the name of Primary Chronicle (commonly shortened), second I put Belarusian, Russian, Ukrainian in alphabetical order, third changed Russo-Byzantine to Rus'-Byzantine (typo fixes). Shahray (talk) 21:46, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

@Remsense, so everything is fine? Shahray (talk) 22:08, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

You're still not responding to me, why is there "no reason to do this"? Explain what you mean first, instead of making biased comments in the noticeboard. Shahray (talk) 05:46, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

vatican.va

The domain vatican.va on the Catholic Church article does not work because there is no DNS record for it. --Gert7 (talk · contribs) 05:58, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It is not obvious what this has to do with Wikipedia in general or Remsense in particular, but there appears to have been a transient issue with the .va domain. It is back online now. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 10:23, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

The problem was that 'vatican.va' was used in the infobox, but this domain does not exist. 'www.vatican.va' is the correct domain. My edit was restored. --Gert7 (talk · contribs) 16:20, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes of course. Do'oh! 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 18:38, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

User:Peter Agassian

Is this WP:LTA/ARARAT? Myrealnamm (💬pros · 📜cons) 13:10, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Request for 3rd opinion

I would like to bring your attention to Islam in Australia

I would like to request your third opinion. Summary of engagement:

1. User:Bro The Man & User:Binksternet
2. Islam in Australia Dispute regarding achieved consensus achieved in article talk page.
3. Caution issued. Repeated reverting
4. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Talk:Islam_in_Australia#Bloated_lead_section
5. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User_talk:Binksternet#Consensus_achieved%3A_Islam_in_Australia.

Bro The Man (talk) 04:23, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Not necessary but...

I was going to send you a thanks for your edit at Talk:Grapheme, but then I thought it might look like I was thanking you for asking yourself if you were an idiot, which was the opposite of my intent. So I acknowledge your post there. And you're not an idiot :) -- Ponyo<sup>bons mots</sup> 15:35, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Why in Names?

if the empire wasn't called Hindustan and you reverted my edits

Then why do you guys have it in #Names

If it wasn't called Hindustan then why haven't you removed it from there tho? JingJongPascal (talk) 19:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

As I said, you should peruse the discussions on the talk page and in the archives. Remsense ‥ 论 19:14, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

I understand that but then why is it in #Names section ? JingJongPascal (talk) 19:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Battle of Talas

Why do you remove my edits? I am writing the truth about the page why do you guys change the whole history of the battle? The chinese Wikipedia talked about what I wrote with sources R3YBOl (talk) 08:29, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

We are not editorially dependent on Chinese Wikipedia, nor they on us. Please don't indiscriminately import what another language wiki says: we have our own content policies, please respect them. Remsense ‥ 论 08:30, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Man I am telling you that Their sources were useful,You can go and check it yourself their sources are so strong and useful R3YBOl (talk) 08:32, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

If you had actually cited those sources, there would have to be some discussion concerning the significant discrepancies with the sources we're already citing. Remsense ‥ 论 08:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

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Short descriptions of periods in medieval English history

Hi Remsense, why the reversions at History of Anglo-Saxon England, England in the High Middle Ages and England in the Late Middle Ages? I could understand leaving all the short descriptions intentionally blank − but would disagree with it, because I think dates help the general reader who may not know when to place these periods. But you also reverted the change to the existing (i.e., not blank) short description of England in the High Middle Ages. Ham II (talk) 07:08, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Apologies about that! I suppose I have perennial questions about how what rules of thumb we can expect when it comes to short descriptions for articles with phrasal titles. Remsense ‥ 论 07:22, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply! WP:SDNONE says that "some article titles are sufficiently detailed that an additional short description would not be helpful", but to my mind that isn't true of these three because without the dates I think many readers would struggle to place these periods in history. And now I see that the section above that one is WP:SDDATES, which supports dates in short descriptions for historical periods. Would you object to me changing them back? Ham II (talk) 07:48, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Expressing Thanks on Mathematics Page Edit

Just wanted to express thanks for the reversion of my edit on the Mathematics page. I had read about the controversy on the Talk Page, and decided changing it was better to avoid controversy, but I was wrong, obviously. I didn’t mean to make a bigger mess with the edit. Just to avoid controversy. So, thanks for changing it back AstroAnarchist (talk) 18:33, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

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Another Sockpuppet on Brezhnev page

Looks like we have another sockpuppet causing mischief over on Leonid Brezhnev. Emiya1980 (talk) 23:49, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Indiction revert

Hi. I appreciate the effort to keep things close to the reference in this entry, though I still think the inclusion of a formula that has immediately to be corrected is less than ideal. That said, I've kept it in, but made some language changes to clarify the problem with it. I've also broken up the edits. - Eponymous-Archon (talk) 22:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

What we can't include is your own personal method. Remsense ‥ 论 23:19, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Nothing original by me was ever in there. I had just cut out the (incorrect) original formula. Nothing new showed up in the end. As I said though, the original is back in, addressing your comment. - Eponymous-Archon (talk) 23:32, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

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why did you delete my map for no reason? i was just trying to add educational information about the countries that have the most natural resources. MJGTMKME123 (talk) 11:43, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

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Why did you remove the updated images of the sizes of the Terrestrial planet.

Hello. Why did you remove the updated images of the sizes of the Terrestrial planets (plus the Moon and Ceres)? I spent my precious break time at work creating those images and you just removed it without proper explanation?

Also, the planetary original size comparisons are outdated (the blurry Hubble image of Ceres), and also wrong (Mercury is almost totally grey, and not brown as used in some children's space encyclopedia) so there is a reason why I updated that image. IapetusCallistus (talk) 19:57, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

I mean, why did you change them? No reason was given for why the new version was an improvement until now, and no reason was given for why they were added to additional pages. We also use true color photos when possible, though not for Venus in either comparison seemingly. We appreciate work by editors, but we aren't entitled to have our work published just because we spent a long time on it, especially if no consensus was established beforehand. Remsense ‥ 论 20:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

So you need me to explain it in the edit explanation first before I clicked "edit"? Did I understand you correctly? Then say it so. Don't just leave an "unexplained" undo and at least have a "Talk" first.

If that's not what you meant, can you explain your position properly?

Of course, Venus' surface cannot be true color because its a Magellan radio image, not a visible light image. The Mars {Emirati's Hope) and Mercury (MESSENGER) are true color images, so what's wrong with what I did? Do I need to explain it in the text? IapetusCallistus (talk) 20:06, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm happy to be explaining it more fully now since you asked. A true color image of Venus is used as the lead image of the Venus article itself. There's no real need to use a false color image of the surface here, especially as it is incongruous with the other photos. Remsense ‥ 论 20:39, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Reverting edit to The Blue Marble

While I understand your concerns regarding the use of color-corrected images on Wikipedia, your immediate revert of my revert without discussing it on the Talk page, borders on edit warring.

Please discuss your concerns before further edits. Aaron1a12 (talk) 01:44, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

The WP:ONUS is on the editor who wishes to include content to establish consensus for it. That you posted a link that you thought persuasive does not override the fact you are the one who unilaterally readded the content under dispute here. No one likes being reverted, but it's a bit rich to brood about edit warring because your hand got slapped away after you stuck it into the cookie jar. Remsense ‥ 论 01:46, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

== November notice == 

No problem. Any more criteria assessed? Strongman13072007 (talk) 03:12, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Chinese characters PR?

Hi -- I was considering contributing to the peer review on Chinese characters that you opened, but I see it's been there for nearly six months now. I'd be happy to give it a pre-FAC review (though I know very little about the topic) but wanted to check with you that you are still interested in taking it to FAC before I start. Let me know -- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 20:53, 8 November 2024 (UTC)

Regarding my petulant outburst (October 2024)

Hello,

I write to apologise unreservedly for the rude, patronising, wholly unconstructive tirade I directed at you recently — I believe it was approximately three weeks ago — on this talk page.

My outburst was promptly removed by the alert Chaheel Riens; mercifully I am spared the mortification of seeing it recorded here in perpetuity. I hope that you were spared the experience of reading it even once.

If you did read it before it was removed, you will know that nothing of value was lost. If you didn’t read it before it was removed, know that nothing of value was lost.

There are no extenuating circumstances for me to offer in mitigation here. On the contrary: the offending remarks were especially egregious for their needless crudity. You were entirely blameless in the matter, and I was wholly at fault.

Again, I apologise unreservedly. My sole misgiving is that I did not do so earlier.

Regards. Foxmilder (talk) 03:54, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

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Siege of Suiyang - Lunar Month vs Solar Month

I apologise for the nonconstructive edit; this is an expansion on a suggested change. I also posted the same on the talk page. The sourced dates (Zizhitongjian) for the siege are transliterated into solar alternatives, but it is the lunar month. For example, 9th 10th lunar month is November 24th, while 25th 1st lunar month is February 18th for 757. If you feel this change into solar month is justified, please change it as needed. Joannevinig (talk) 12:31, 7 November 2024 (UTC)