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India's National Action Plan for Climate Change (NAPCC)

Sir i have followed all rhe guidelines while creating it and a user called simon is repeatedly nomination it for delition under G11 criteria . Last time it was deleted without a discussion on whether to keep it or not . I reimproved and i don't think any violation of WP:Pov is here. ALSO ALL SOurces are third party secondary sources but it seems deleting admin also got confused . This time also the particular user has wrote on the talk page of same admin for delition.what to do? This is like spoiling hard works of others.Heba Aisha (talk) 17:05, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

I don't see a deletion. Was the article title different? --RegentsPark (comment) 17:22, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes it was Heba Aisha (talk) 17:41, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

It would help if you told me what that title was. --RegentsPark (comment) 17:43, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes it was National Action Plan on Climate Change (India). Usually admins are not aware with a particular topic if they don't have knowledge in that area. And as G11 is speedy delition criteria they deleted without any talk. But, this is a program of Government of India and similar articles exist on wiki example National Solar Mission and i have used 3rd party secondary sources so no issue of WP:POV and conflict of interest. I have recreated it with further improvements and i am worried that it wouldbe deleted too as the same guy have put a message on talk page of same admin regarding that.Heba Aisha (talk) 17:48, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

I'll take a look. Generally, it isn't a good idea to recreate a deleted article under a different name and it is always a good idea to let the deleting admin know that you've recreated it. --RegentsPark (comment) 18:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

I have put a message on his talk page...the deliting admin HickoryOughtShirt?4 . BTW I have changed many things like intro and look whole changed.Heba Aisha (talk) 18:11, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

It doesn't look that different to me (the original and the new one). But, the article itself is problematic since it reads more like a publicity brochure on the plan than a content substantial one. You probably want to rewrite it completely using more secondary sources and dropping most of the primary sources you're using. Since the plan was apparently started in 2008, there should be quite a few secondary sources that talk about how successful or not the plan is (assuming the government hasn't forgotten all about it). In its current state, if it survives G11, it will almost certainly be deleted at WP:AFD. --RegentsPark (comment) 18:26, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

ok.....that's y i want a maintenance tag on it rather than deletion. Heba Aisha (talk) 18:30, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Indopaedia

Hi. I notice a one week block, and that's up to you. However you're welcome to peruse my activity in the last 30 minutes if you want some more (CU confirmed) information. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 15:51, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

OK, scrap that, I've seen enough. Indef'd. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 16:01, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Likely a few more sitting around waiting. --RegentsPark (comment) 16:03, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Help needed.

Hi RegentsPark, I added some info on Seuna (Yadava) dynasty page and someone removed it without particularly pointing to any specific issue. What was wrong with the content or its reference? Please take a look at this removal. HinduKshatrana (talk) 22:16, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

I have no idea whether your edits are good or why it was removed. Best to discuss it on the talk page and see what happens. Explain why your sources are good and why the content is necessary. If you don't get a response in a few days, you can add it back. If there is a discussion, then, hopefully, there will be consensus. --RegentsPark (comment) 16:04, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi @RegentsPark:, it's been days since anyone has joined the talks on the Seuna (Yadava) dynasty page so I've re-added back the information that was reverted. HinduKshatrana (talk) 10:37, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

I've added the page to my watch list. Let's see what happens. --RegentsPark (comment) 11:54, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Same content

But two articles Satsang (Deoghar) and Satsang Ashram. Wikifulness (talk) 16:33, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

They look a bit different. One appears to be on the philopsophy of the cult and the other on its organizational structure. If you think two articles are not necessary, you should propose a merger.--RegentsPark (comment) 17:45, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

List of Brahmin dynasties and states

Hi sir, Saw your activities and i think you have done what i did if this had been ur subject area. The article had some fake sources and many states included in list had no article on wikipedia so as per WP:WTAF i have done some clean up. It will need time to check whether all other state mentioned are brahman states or not as i m doubtful after seeing the Gupta empire in the list. But i will verify when get time. If you find any issues with my edits plz notify me. Heba Aisha (talk) 03:07, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Looks like cruft to me. Best course forward, remove everything that is unsourced and wait for the dust to settle! --RegentsPark (comment) 17:47, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

User (Dinesh2069 (talk))

Hello Regents park, the above user is not listening to neither "Admin Bishonen" words nor my words. Take a look at this edit [1]. User is using words like 'beg' for characters like Indra- king of Gods without any sources. He claimed that we were hurting religious sentiments but the user himself is doing that. This violates wikipedia's 'neutral' policy. He also added words like 'great danveer' to elevate a character without proofs or sources. This shows that he is fan of character Karna. This can be called as fan boy vandalism. The most important thing is he is editing in a wrong way even after being warned. I request you to look into this carefully as admin "Bishonen" already gave him final warning. Also please look my latest edit over his talk page and please tell me whether I did correct or not. [2], this user seems to be little rude as you can see his latest edit. [3]. I don't have any personal enimity with him. But he is not editing properly. Admin Bishonen also gave him final warning and asked me to report if he persistently edits in a wrong way even after warning. I already informed her. She told me that she is unaware of religious matters. Hence I'm reporting you so that you would take some action on him. He had record of disruptive editing and vandalism. He was warned for disruption in many articles like Bhima. I checked his talk page as well. Kindly look into this seriously as his editing in talkpage also seems to be rude and vulgar. Thank you and have a nice day. Fire star on heat (talk) 02:23, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Looks like the user hasn't contributed for a bit. Let's wait and see. --RegentsPark (comment) 17:46, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes. I'm just bringing this to your notice Fire star on heat (talk) 02:47, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Edit warring

Disruptive editing/edit warring on Raghu Pati Raghav. Can you please temp lock the page? 2001:4898:80E8:F:7221:D2E1:2763:9AB1 (talk) 22:04, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi. It doesn't look like the edit warring is continuing. If it restarts, let me know or report it at WP:AN3 or WP:RFPP. --RegentsPark (comment) 00:22, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Disruption after block expiry

Syed Aashir (talk · contribs) has continued making the same edits that you blocked him for and, now, continues to be disruptive on other articles. User has been unresponsive and shows no willingness to improve their edits. Can you please do something about it in you capacity as administrator? Harsher countermeasures are due. Idell (talk) 08:51, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Blocked again. Unless they figure out how to edit, they're headed for an indef block.--RegentsPark (comment) 15:35, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Citiation on Draft:Manoj Kumar Verma.

Hello sir,

Thanks for editing my article. I got a message that my senior in charge has provided many references after second submit, but some texts needs reference. I will probably provide the reference.

Regards, 🇮🇳DRCNSINDIA (talk) 08:02, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Mughal Maratha Wars

Mughal-Marathas War Where is it written that Raj era sources cannot be used? Removed your vandalism, please desist from vandalism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by A.A Ghatge (talk • contribs) 07:32, 25 October 2020 (UTC) @A.A Ghatge: For historical material, you should only use contemporary academic sources. If you can't find a contemporary source, that usually means that the material is not a conclusion drawn by a historian. historiography is not static, and old sources are not reliable. In particular, raj era sources are suspect because, in most cases, the writers were not historians and were likely using very little data to arrive at their conclusions. Hope this clarifies things. Also, please try to add talk page comments at the bottom of the page and properly sectioned. Note also that labeling good faith edits as vandalism is not a path you want to travel down. Best. --RegentsPark (comment) 21:27, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Possible 3rr violation by IP?

What are your thoughts on IP editor 73.32.6.120's latest edit-warring spree on page Raghupati Raghava Raja Ram? Is it a possible 3rr violation? If so I will open a thread at WP:AN3 --DL 6443 01:29, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@DL6443: I saw that you mentioned me. Breaking 3RR is when there are more than three reverts (four or more) in a 24 hour time period. The IP has reverted two times in the past 24h, so is not subject to 3RR violation, but you can still report them at WP:ANEW if you believe they have been edit warring. I think they have, they’re not providing any reasoning behind their reverts. Before you report them, know that your actions will be scrutinized as well. Some tips for you are:

If you have not warned them yet on their talk page, do it ASAP by adding {{subst:uw-3rr}} to their talk page
Also - open a discussion on the article talk page, mentioning them and asking to please stop
Keep a close eye on their contributions. If you are on a web browser, just open a new tab to make sure you don’t lose it. If they do anything, keep track of it

The reverts happened around 24 hours ago, so you can’t report them for 3RR unless they make 4 reverts in 24h on a page. I hope this helped! D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 01:56, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Doggy54321: Thanks for the info. However, just want to put out there that the reverts occurred less than an hour ago by the same IP mentioned above. And also as a side note, the ping probably happened due to a syntax error that accidentally transcluded the entire AN3 page onto this talk page. --DL 6443 02:03, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@DL6443: ahahahahaa, glad that the syntax error happened 😊😊. Sorry, my pea brain thought the reverts happened 24h ago, my bad. If they revert on that page anytime in the next 24h you can report them. You could also report right now as it is evident that they are edit warring. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 02:06, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Sock of User:ChitranshYasharth896 I've blocked them but the page probably needs semi-protecting.--RegentsPark (comment) 02:13, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@User:DL6443, can't seem to figure out why someone mentioned me in this page, and where... Edion Petriti (talk) 07:17, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Edion Petriti: Apologies. There was a syntax error which accidentally transcluded the entire AN3 noticeboard onto this page, sending out pings to everyone on it. --DL 6443 07:26, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

(y), No problem. Edion Petriti (talk) 07:27, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Using political sources

Hi RegentsPark, I hope you're doing great. In one of my previous questions you suggested not to use political sources (CPI in this case) for writing content in Shivaji's page. Recently, I saw a political source being used to describe Hindutva. I wish to know to what extant political sources can be used. Thank you so much for your time. Jenos450 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:19, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Jenos450:. I can't answer this question without knowing what source you refer to and the context in which it was used. --RegentsPark (comment) 14:39, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

User talk:Chuniya1000

Hi RegentsPark/Archive 35. You might want to delete this talk page as it is full of vulgar slang and threats in Hindi. — LeoFrank ^Talk 16:47, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the heads up! --RegentsPark (comment) 17:31, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Please also rev del these along with deleting the edit summary. Similar slang in Hindi:

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— LeoFrank ^Talk 15:23, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Done--RegentsPark (comment) 15:27, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Read the article

Netaji Jayanti and decide its notability. Wikifulness (talk) 08:40, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Seems marginally notable to me though the sources are all rather recent. If you can find older sources that discuss the holiday, then that would cement notability. You could also post on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Holidays. --RegentsPark (comment) 16:24, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Review

Hi I'm Sumit banaphar, I have recently participate on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard to ask that is the source I'm providing to make changes is reliable or not. So can you please review my request, if you're interested. Sumit banaphar (talk) 14:06, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Commented there. --RegentsPark (comment) 17:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Edit on Pashtuns

I noticed that the quote from Johnny Cheung was removed. I recognised that 1 reference might not be enough so I added 4 additional references (books and journals) to the article. Thank you for your interest in Pashtuns ! PashtoAdder4 (talk) 04:28, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

I have added 2 additional book references with quotations. PashtoAdder4 (talk) 04:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Please also note the article published on academia.edu by Johnny Cheung was from the book Studia Philologica Iranica: Gherardo Gnoli Memorial Volume. Scienze e lettere. I have provided the whole reference with thepage number. There are more 7 different references now for one single arguement. Please do not remove info PashtoAdder4 (talk) 04:51, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

I don't really know anything about this. Someone else will, hopefully, figure out what to do with it.--RegentsPark (comment) 17:40, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

November 2020

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@ජපස: Um. You're the only one who needed to be warned. But, no worries. --RegentsPark (comment) 16:46, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Please look again. There is a serial reverter: Joshua Jonathan who has not contradicted the rationale on the talkpage. jps (talk) 17:21, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Indian subcontinent

What should be the next course of action? ANB? ANI? Or accept that our dispute resolution mechanism is dysfuntional? Aditya^{(✉ • ⚒)} 21:36, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Probably the dysfunctional part. I don't have the time to focus on this and, when racism enters the picture, I usually just give up. --RegentsPark (comment) 22:05, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Happy Diwali!

Happy Diwali!!!

Sky full of fireworks,
Mouth full of sweets,
Home full of lamps,
And festival full of sweet memories...

Wishing You a Very Happy and Prosperous Diwali.
Fylindfotberserk (talk) 07:16, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Send Diwali wishings by adding {{subst:Happy Diwali}} to people's talk pages with a friendly message.

Thanks @Fylindfotberserk:. A very happy diwali too you too!--RegentsPark (comment) 14:02, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Subh Diwali

.🪔HappyDeepawali🪔May this festival bring peace and blessings to you and your family • .💠245CMR💠.•^👥📜 10:09, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks @245CMR:. Happy Diwali to you too!--RegentsPark (comment) 14:03, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Happy Diwali

Happy Diwali!!!

Sky full of fireworks,
Mouth full of sweets,
Home full of lamps,
And festival full of sweet memories...

Wishing You a Very Happy and Prosperous Diwali.
Titodutta (talk) 17:04, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Send Diwali wishings by adding {{subst:Happy Diwali}} to people's talk pages with a friendly message.

Thanks @Titodutta:. It's been a while - Happy Diwali to you!

Content dispute.

Hello RegentsPark, could you help us to solve a curretn discution here. Two parts with opposing POVs are having a issue in this article. Before it escalates, hope you could give your opinion. I dont like the language being used at the talk page, and mostly because of the delicate topic.Mr.User200 (talk) 00:44, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mr.User200: Looks like it's been amicably settled, right? --RegentsPark (comment) 17:31, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Your proposal

You made a proposal on the Hindustani language article talk page. Can you please post it again? I want to see.--Vishnu Sahib (talk) 01:14, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

@Vishnu Sahib: I don't recall making any proposal there. Are you confusing me with some other editor? You can search the archives to see if you can find the proposal there. --RegentsPark (comment) 02:46, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Never mind, I found it. I intend to revive it when I have the time, even if I ever do revive it.--Vishnu Sahib (talk) 05:22, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

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Editing Hinduism

@RegentsPark: I saw that you undo-ed my edit in Hinduism, and felt that your point was valid. So when I re-reverted it, I made sure to add citations to it. Please review it.

I would also like to state that after making some edits, I am planning on nominating Hinduism for WP:GA, as it once was a WP:FA. Please give your opinion on the topic.--Atlantis77177 (talk) 04:03, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

@Atlantis77177: You should probably involve other editors (Joshua Jonathon, for example) if you want to take it to GA. --RegentsPark (comment) 16:20, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:41, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Suspected user complain

Sir please see User:Abhishek Mishra BJP a new user, meant to enter Wikipedia for Vandalism purpose if I'm not wrong. Because his user name is mentioned BJP and mostly a party's name so keep a note on his contributions on India related articles.

🇮🇳DRCNSINDIA (talk) 08:29, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

@DRCNSINDIA: I can't find User:Abhishek Mishra BJP. Could you drop a link to their contributions? --RegentsPark (comment) 17:00, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Abhishek_Mishra_BJP 🇮🇳DRCNSINDIA (talk) 07:03, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

But he may be do some contributions which creates vandalism. 🇮🇳DRCNSINDIA (talk) 07:04, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Sitush talk page

Why undo my warm welcome? Zalim Singh Zulmi (talk) 19:48, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Abusive Language

Hlello Mate Ravi Mavi abused me recently for Talk page of Tomaras because he cant counter me with Facts Kindly block Him he is Really Caste boomer and has been Targeting me many times. Cheers. Samboy 01681 (talk) 09:51, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		For watchfulness in protecting Wikipedia, for wisdom, and valor. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 21:58, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Fowler! --RegentsPark (comment) 22:18, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Double articles found

Sir please see Jyotipriya Mallick and Jyotipriyo Mullick is the same article with same details. Please note it and keep or merge to that article which has more information. Thanking you, 🇮🇳GoWB🇮🇳 (ask me any questions) 12:26, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

@NS Dibyojyoti: could you take a look? --RegentsPark (comment) 17:13, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

Reverted my edit of just adding a template

User:RegentsPark, May I know the reason for the revision being reverted.गहराई (talk) 14:42, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

~~Perhaps I've misunderstood something but why would an Indian muslim template be added to a Afghani ethnic group?~~--RegentsPark (comment) 14:52, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

I've self reverted. The state=majority made me think this was an unconstructive edit and I've fixed that too. Apologies. --RegentsPark (comment) 14:57, 11 December 2020 (UTC)

Threat

Can you please look into this?. - Akhiljaxxn (talk) 13:45, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Mughal Empire page, why did you undo my deletion?

Please comment on the article talk page.--RegentsPark (comment) 23:24, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Mughal_Empire&action=history

You performed an undo for the deletion of my selected text. Why? I don't want a link to an ruling I also want to know how yourself adhered to the ruling to feel it was justified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SumeetJi (talk • contribs) 20:54, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

@SumeetJi: From what I understood from your edit summary (and talk page comment), you are concerned that the articles do not talk about Sikh genocide. None of the content you removed addresses Sikhs and it is unclear why you removed what appears to be well sourced content.--RegentsPark (comment) 20:58, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

What I removed was text that in summary states the Mughal Empire was an equality driven Empire. There is no evidence from the linked sources reference [19] that is in line with that statement, "it did not vigorously suppress the cultures and people it came to rule; rather, it equalized and placated them through new administrative practices,"

in fact reading the book itself lends the opposite viewpoint, that Mughals were indeed oppressive and not equality driven and that their administrative practices were based on removing Hindus from power. This also invalidated reference [18]. The original Authors viewpoints should be removed for misleading work.

From an simple logical viewpoint and then fact checking by reading the sources provided already, how does an foreign invading genociding empire part of an Islamic Caliphate, not back the statement that they did not "vigorously suppress the cultures" when Jizya an Islamic practice of forcing tax on non-Muslims which was implemented with verifiable sources on the Indian population during Muslim rule, even lend credibility to the statement.

Source book ISBN-10 : 1515072401 ISBN-13 : 978-1515072409

I'm not here to waste your time with useless facts, I'm here to give an unbiased viewpoint on topics that I want to share with to the greater world in truth.

There seems to be an problem with you judging your work. I've been warned for my behaviour and taken corrective action. Have you even done your job correctly in lines with Wikipedia guidelines to look into the source reference to make an unbiassed ruling yourself? Your work is terrible at best and deliberately misleading at worst. - SumeetJi (talk) 21:10, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Replied on the article talk page. --RegentsPark (comment) 21:25, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

There is no reference on page 115 to say that imposition wasn't forced It merely states that cultures were not eliminated or merged. That ruling class stated was an Islamic class that forced rule onto the country in the first place.

Stop being misleading. Stop wasting my time. Stop doing anything counterproductive and fix your work ethics. Your on purpose furthering negative discourse. You are not reading the source, you are not further being productive. SumeetJi (talk) 21:38, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Leaving my last note to yourself here - Regarding user User:RegentsPark - your source of reference to refer to given "Please see page 115 of the Asher source." gives no indication to counter the statement I made that the Mughal Empire imposed their rule on others by force. The relevant page section reads in summary that no elimination of native culture nor merging of culture began during Mughal occupation. Furthermore, if you actually read your own source which I suspect you are deliberately not doing as it would've proved you wrong originally, the following text advises that a nobility class of Muslim rulers of which the Mughal were occupied India, and imposed their rule. Imposing rule is not the same as the original article authors txt "it did not vigorously suppress the cultures and people it came to rule;" because they in fact according to every single source given if your doing your job, did impose their Muslim rule to suppress cultures. Jizya is a major example.

You're doing this on purpose. I refuse to take your further word in point as your are not following Wikipedia's guidelines on following helpful trains of thought. Revert you're undo, or I will do so in an hour from now and also report you for violations of accusations without reason, and will accept my account deletion and all my works history being deleted as protest or judgement and entire career history deleted for it - SumeetJi (talk) 22:04, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.