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Thank you

Hi Muhandes, I am very sorry to hear about your health problems and sincerely hope that you are not suffering too much. I just wanted to say that I imagine that your contributions to Wikipedia going forward are likely to diminish and probably completely stop in the future, so I wanted to take the opportunity while I can to thank you for all your work over the years on the templates for singles and albums charts, and certification tables, and anti-vandalism work elsewhere - it has been very much appreciated by me, for one. Richard3120 (talk) 17:49, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi Richard3120. I am not suffering too much, thanks to the excellent pain relief medications available these days. I am still young, and there is always hope for recovery or at least remission, so I hope to return for longer periods. I appreciate you taking the time to express your gratitude. Knowing that my work is valued motivates me to find moments when I feel well and contribute more. Muhandes (talk) 07:50, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm very happy to hear that. Richard3120 (talk) 13:03, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

In regards to your revert edit on Beyoncé's song page “Halo”

I have included the source for the updates I made, but I am confused as to why the link continues to redirect to the previous one. Can you assist me with this issue? As per May 2024 certifications update from the BVMI, Beyoncé's Halo has certified 3x Gold with 900,000 units in Germany.

Source: Monatsreport Mai 2024 GOLD-/PLATIN- und DIAMOND-Auszeichnungen in Deutschland Newpicarchive (talk) 12:44, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

@Newpicarchive: You should use the |salesref= parameter of the template to provide a specific source. However, I think this would be a mistake. A better approach would be to find out why BVMI is certifying 3x Gold with 900,000, so the template is providing this number directly. As far as I can say, BVMI used the release date to determine the certification levels for singles as late as December 2023. However, since January 2024 they seem to use 300,000 as the threshold for all singles. Looking at the latest set of rules I can find makes things even more confusing, since it actually says this move to 300,000 should have happened on July 2023 (compare to earlier set of rules). What I suggest is that you wait a bit with that edit and let us figure it out so the template is correct. If you see it isn't done for a month or two, go can always go back and make that edit. Muhandes (talk) 13:19, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

I attempted to use the template as instructed, but the source link continues to redirect me to the previous one. Could you kindly provide assistance with this matter? Alternatively, if you don't mind, could you please make the necessary edits for Halo certification in Germany yourself? Newpicarchive (talk) 13:46, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

@Newpicarchive: That would not be necessary anymore. The default citation works perfectly fine and it lists 900,000 as the certified amount. A specific source is only necessary if there is a need to override the amount. Muhandes (talk) 14:25, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Understood. i appreciate it. Newpicarchive (talk) 14:32, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm pinging Lk95 who was involved with the latest edit to BVMI certification levels; maybe they can shed some light on this. I tend to think singles certified since July 2023 should use 300,000 as the threshold for Gold per the guideline (which, by the way, was also reflected here on August 2023), but I'm really interested to hear what you think. --Muhandes (talk) 13:29, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

I found the newest guideline from December 2023; I'm not sure it brings anything new to the table. I also found this source which shows the 300,000 threshold on July with the term "für alle Single-Produkte", but not on June. --Muhandes (talk) 13:39, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Muhandes. I was actually planning on talking to you about this. According to recent monthly certification reports by the BVMI, they awarded songs from any year the same threshold they first installed on 30 June 2023. Following a discussion on the German Wikipedia, a user directly asked an employee from BVMI and received the response that the thresholds are indeed the same across all song releases regardless of release dates (see their comment here). However, the rule does not apply to albums. Lk95 (talk) 10:40, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

@Lk95: My observation is that BVMI started awarding songs from any release year based on the thresholds established on June 30, 2023, beginning in January 2024. Is that correct? Muhandes (talk) 07:44, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

@Muhandes: Yes, that is correct. Lk95 (talk) 17:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC)

@Lk95 and Newpicarchive:  Done. Halo (Beyoncé song) now shows the correct figure too. Muhandes (talk) 06:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

thank you very much, I really appreciate it. Newpicarchive (talk) 13:36, 19 June 2024 (UTC)