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Im sending you this reminder because you volunteered to mentor my students in English Advanced B as they become contributing members of the Wikipedia community. We start working with Wikipedia in earnest next week. I ask you to take a look at your entry in the Mentor Table at Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/ITESM_Campus_Toluca/Mentors
Please update the information, esp. with what your technical and informational expertise is or, if you have decided that you no longer want to participate, please remove your information from the table. Please watch the pages associated with the project. Students will contact you via your user page and as soon as my students have user pages, I will put them on the navigation bar associated with the project.
I don’t need to remind you that your job is NOT to write their assignments for them, of course. I certainly will tell my students that… and the fact that you are volunteers that don’t have to help them… so they need to be nice. If any students misbehave (tho I don’t expect it) don’t hesistate to contact me and I will take care of it. The goal of this project is to integrate successfully into the Wikipedia community. Anyway… what I really need your help with is helping students get oriented to Wikipedia, make appropriate changes and write about appropriate topics (see Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/ITESM_Campus_Toluca/Syllabus for assignments). I also need your technical expertise… I am only an English teacher after all! I appreciate what technology does for us but I am no technical expert!
Got a whole new load of images of Somerset vs Leicestershire! Check my upload log in a little while as I put them on and paste them to relevant articles. I'll need your help telling me who a particular commentator is. SGGHspeak!21:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
RE: The Sabres
I'm not sure why the numbers are different, but as for numbers in the Pro40, the shot of him celebrating his 50 (and the one on langer's page) are from a Pro40 match. Did you see the image of his signed England shirt? 23 is his international number, I don't know what his Sabres number is. And thanks for the Luke Wright heads up. SGGHspeak!22:50, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks buddy. I put Marcus up for GA by the way, it is such a long process what with the backlog that I thought now would be a good time, no reason why it won't pass. FA is very close I think? SGGHspeak!23:41, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
Gotten a new camera lens, so photos at the ground will come out even better (not that Trescothick's article needs more images!) GA takes so long, might have made FA by now... SGGHspeak!18:56, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Adoption
Hi, I was just wondering if you were still adopting users and if you would be interested in adopting me. Thanks a lot, Thom710:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay in replying. Thank you; that seems to work fine for Robinson. It still doesn't like having only a year for birth and only a year for death, though, as tries to put the "Born" and "Died" on the same row. See User:Loganberry/Sandbox for what I mean. I'm not trying to appear ungrateful here, honest! It works perfectly for Robinson himself. Loganberry (Talk) 14:41, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Absolutely no objections whatsoever. The template was originally created before the Infobox cricketer biography one, I changed the layout of it afterwards to keep the look of everything consistant. However, using just the one template is a lot simpler, thanks. AMBerry (talk | contribs) 17:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't think that putting the scores after half centuries are important, however 117-run century might be quite good because when we get to large centuries like 164-run century or something, it's quite good to demonstrate. 86-run half century of course doesn't really make sense, because thats like saying an 86-run 50. But perhaps if they are large centuries we can put 145-run century? SGGHspeak!11:02, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps just the scores themselves if they differ significantly from 100 or 50. You would agree that 182 is a significant enough career moment to warrant a mention beyond "a century" yes? I leave it up to you. SGGHspeak!11:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Thought it would be better to comment here rather than FAC. While I can see how much work you have put into this article, I hope you take this the right way: it reads like you have got a lot of stats and lists then patched them together with some quotes. ie. it doesn't flow very well and I found it confusing to read, some of the grammar is odd. In short, I think it needs a good copy edit. I don't get much of a sense of Trescothick the player, as distinct from his stats. Some of the suggestions that other guy is making are not really helping either. I empathise with your situation; I wrote & nominated Alan Kippax and ended up in the situation that you find yourself in with this one. The FAC process leaves a lot to be desired.
Thanks for your input into the Chappell FAC. I think when you have a minor problem (eg. a missing word etc.) with an article, it is best to just edit it, as you have done, so that's good. As for Trescothick, I think that what I said above is right, but have patience cos I think it will get through with a bit of work. IMO, some FAC's seem to go "stale" among reviewers, but you learn the process which you can apply to your next FAC.
Hi there, regarding your comments at the [Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Thierry Henry Henry FAC], I've made my responses. Thanks. Chensiyuan (talk) 02:27, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
"prolific"
Isn't it that when refs can come in the middle of a sentence[1] if there is no puntucation around and the sentence is very long like this and you have left the topic of the ref behind over there its okay. It is when you get refs around punctuation that you have to worry about it, and in that case it should be here.[2] rather than here[3]? Meh, as long as people realise prolific is a quote. :) SGGHspeak!00:41, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
I have a reference for Murali spelling his name "Muralidaran". [1] He says that he wants to be known as Muttiah Muralidaran, not Muralitharan. I don't know how old the article is, but it seems he still feels the same way about his name. On the Channel 9 coverage of the Australia-Sri Lanka Test match, in an interview with the team he said that he doesn't really care how it is spelt, as long as it is pronounced (moor-allee-DOOR-an). As in saying the nickname, Murali, and then adding DURAN on the end. I was the guy who moved the page to "Mutiah Muralidaran," and changed on the "Muralitharans" to "Muralidarans." Feel free to post back on my talkpage with thoughts on how to do this. thanksGibbsyspin (talk) 22:32, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, regarding the Thierry Henry FAC which you had particpated in, well the nomination's been restarted. Would appreciate it if you could recast your vote here. Chensiyuan (talk) 00:22, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
The trick is to use a name that is not unique. ie, instead of SG Barnes, enter the name as just Barnes. It will then go a screen with the list of several Barnes. If you select the right Barnes from there, the results that come up will have the specific link. Tintin17:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
DYK
On 8 December, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Adrian Aymes, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
I had entirely forgotten about this. Can you please let me know where you are up to with the article and I will take another look. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk12:05, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
It seems someone else has failed this. When you are ready, list it again, let me know and I will take another look at it. -- Mattinbgn\talk01:10, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Infobox
Good work, I shall test it when I do some more biographies over the weekend. I create biogrpahies almost solely on players from non-test countries, who have often only played one first-class game, so this should help greatly! Andrew nixon (talk) 11:01, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Your copyedit request
On 22 August 2007, you made a request to the League of Copyeditors for a copyedit on Pipe organ. Because of a heavy backlog and a shortage of copyeditors, we have been unable to act on your request in a timely manner, for which we aplogize. Since your request, this article has been subject to significant editing and may no longer be a good candidate for copyediting by the League. If you still wish the League to copyedit this article, please review this article against our new criteria and follow the instructions on the Requests page. This will include your request in our new system, where it should receive more prompt attention. Finetooth (talk) 20:15, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Hello! You requested that I let you know when I have finished my copyedit of Pipe organ. Consider this notification that I have done so! The only part I didn't do anything with was the final section, the one on repertoire. I literally look at it and don't know where to start. The topic is so enormous! So, feel free to take a look at the article when you have time. —Cor anglais 1604:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
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Pipe organ FA nomination
Hello… it looks like you're on a wikibreak. I've completed a pretty thorough copyedit of Pipe organ, and I think we're pretty close to a featured article nomination. If you have a chance, do you want to look through it once more before we proceed to FAC? —Cor anglais 1623:23, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
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York - B - Main problems are lack of references and the lists, also the external links section would need a major prune before a GA review.Maybe ask for peer review when these are done? Bath, Somerset is an FA and a good role model.
Yorkshire and the Humber - Start. The article has been reorganised and expanded (some sections with no text are there on the source page but are commented out at the moment). It could do with more citations.
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Rated a B class article. Viewed 40,122 times in May, 2008. Only went below 1,000 viewings on one day, 10th, and achieved 1,600 on the 6th and the 20th. Overall total number of edits 1,818 with 46 in May, 2008.
Rated a B class article. Viewed 38,018 times in May, 2008. On 12 days there were over 1,000 viewings with a sudden peak of 4,200 on the 24th. Overall number of edits 2,269 with 88 in May, 2008.
Rated a B class article. The highest number of monthly viewings for our priority articles at 50,846 for the month of May, 2008. There were consistently over 1,000 daily viewings with a high of 2,000 on the 25th. Overall total number of edits 3,152 with 86 in May, 2008.
Rated an FA class article.Viewed 37,740 times in May, 2008 with usually over 1,000 daily viewings. There were 6 days when over 1,400 viewings were made then a low of 900 on the 10th. Overall total number of edits 2,550 with 44 in May, 2008.
Rated a GA class article and actively being worked on for FAC. Viewed 42,902 times in May, 2008. Consistently over 1,000 daily viewings with 2,000 viewings on the 12th. Overall total number of edits 2,434 with 241 in May, 2008.
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Pipe organ
Re. your message on my talk page: I'm familiar with the Cook website. Good resource and lots of personal insight, but it's simply not a reliable source. I thought I got rid of all of them, but I'll look into that last one. Thanks for all your hard work! —Cor anglais 1615:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
About my creation of cricketers
Below is a template I will use for creating future cricketers. Please look at the code at edit the page to fully see what I am doing. Also thanks for the help. I was just trying to create a very basic article that did not take long so i could create more in the same time. My thoughts are that having a short not brilliant artcile was better than no article at all. I will implement the things you said like the wikilinks for example. This never crossed my mind!!!
Please give me your comments on the template. I will not be creating articles for a bit of time due to RL. Thanks for your help. I have now changed the Jim Andrew page following the suggestions you made. Hope it looks ok. Also I will from now on if a person has not scored a score of 30ish make a suggestion if disagree I will not include his batting performance instead I will state his best bowling as done at moment instead. I will not include someones best bowling if he got a best of one wicket in an innings. please state if disagree. I will change my view if you disagree and will change the Jim Andrew article to the affect when your state your view on the issue. I will also comment on his season by season record when I create further artciles. 02blythed (talk) 01:09, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
The template looks brillaint. I have copied it and will use it whne I create further cricketers in the future. Thanks for all your help on the subject. 02blythed (talk) 15:13, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
New biography articles
Thank you for your note and for taking such a constructive and measured approach to this. I too don't want to discourage someone who patently has energy and industry. I'll give some thought across today to any further guidelines that might help him, but you seem to have done a very comprehensive job on his talk page. Thanks again. Johnlp (talk) 09:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
"Absent dead" is not a myth. There have been all sorts of odd entries recorded in the scorebooks in the past but when it is translated to CI, CA and other mainstream media (possibly even the Wisden of that year - I don't know), they were changed to more conventional "absent hurt" and so on. Tintin04:25, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Will check the absent dead tonight. Gerald Brodribb's Next Man In is the standard work on curious stuff like this. People with first name Abdul are addressed by their second name. Abdul means servant (of), and the second part (Aziz/Razzaq/Qadir etc) is always a synonym of Allah. Tintin11:32, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
3RR
I'm fully aware of 3RR and won't be making another edit to the page today, but thanks for your concern. Any attempt at breaching the impassé on Talk:Arsenal F.C. would be welcome by the way, I've tried to be reasonable throughout but I've restated the facts of the matter enough times without any of them being acknowledged, it's just impossible to get through. Qwghlm (talk) 15:32, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I've already made an appeal on WT:FOOTY for others' opinions and the general consensus there was that UEFA is a reliable source and UEFA-registered players should be included, to no avail. I might make another. Incidentally creating articles on reserves, notable or not, is a no-no if they've never played in the first team in a competitive game. That consensus is pretty much set in stone and I'm happy to abide by it. Qwghlm (talk) 15:40, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
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To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
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Please stop unlinking dates for the time being. The script you're using has problems, and date unlinking in general is causing a lot of conflict with some other editors who support date autoformatting (which, despite the recent MOS changes, is still a supported feature of Wikipedia.) This is only temporary, until a broader consensus can be reached about the right way to approach this, long-term (which may involve disabling DA in the MediaWiki configuration, which would make date unlinking something that could be fully automated by a bot, anyway.) Thanks, --UC_Bill (talk) 15:37, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm sorry if I inadvertently implied that you were making mistakes. When I was leaving some comments for Tony1 I noticed a number of messages on his talk page about errors while he was using the script, so I mentioned those errors (which I believed were simply bugs in the script, rather than user error) when I left a message on your talk page. My concern isn't with the date format used, but with the fact that dates are being unlinked. I think there are better ways to deal with the problems with the date autoformatting feature, and that unlinking the dates at this point is premature. Feel free to change the format as you deem appropriate, but I would request that you not unlink the dates themselves for now. --UC_Bill (talk) 20:56, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Date formats after autoformatting
With the recent deprecation of date autoformatting, "raw" dates are becoming increasingly visible on Wikipedia. Strong views are being expressed, and even some edit-warring here and there. A poll has been initiated to gauge community support to help us develop wording in the Manual of Style that reflects a workable consensus. As you have recently commented on date formats, your input would be helpful in getting this right. Four options have been put forward, summarised as:
Use whatever format matches the variety of English used in the article
For English-speaking countries, use the format used in the country, for non-English-speaking countries, use the format chosen by the first editor that added a date to the article
Use International format, except for U.S.-related articles
Incidentally, a list of current internationals whose infoboxes were out of date as of this morning can be found here. After this bot is stable, I'll look at doing one to migrate to the new infobox. Sam Korn(smoddy)13:05, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm thinking of the several hundred players who use the template but who aren't current internationals. I'll see then how necessary it is – it might be enough just to transclude the new template into the old one. Sam Korn(smoddy)22:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Wow, scary. Bet you're not volunteering to migrate those manually! I've been through and created all the missing articles (three Pakistanis and a West Indian), and am about a quarter of the way up my list of infobox conversions. I'll do a trial bot run tomorrow and should get the bot flag soon. Sam Korn(smoddy)22:37, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Re: Infoboxes
Haha, nice thinking! I hadn't thought of that at all. Unfortunately I wouldn't expect the entire thing to get done anytime soon - there's at least 600 left last I checked, most likely well over 1000, still to do. But yes, if we can get several people to chip in doing some every now and then it'd be great. AllynJ (talk | contribs) 15:07, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
On a related note, is there such a field as IT20odi in the template? You added one to the doc ([3], second green line) but I *think* this was just a mistake. AllynJ (talk | contribs) 23:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
No worries, they look like some good pictures. I got Marcus Trescothick to sign my copy of his autobiography yesterday! SGGHspeak!09:50, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 4005 last month to 4085 on September 27th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 28 out of a total number of 1678 articles. In the area of GAs, at 21, WP:YORKS also falls behind WP:GM with 28.
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Wikipedia DVD version 0.7
Wikipedia DVD Version 0.7 aims to be a collection of around 30,000 articles taken from the English version of Wikipedia.
The process of producing the list of articles for the DVD is currently under way and 43 of the project's articles are being
considered for inclusion. The list of selected Yorkshire articles can be seen here.
The selection has been done using a scoring system depending on the project's assessment, the number of incoming links to the article, the number of interwiki
links the article has and the number of times the article has been viewed.
The process of selecting clean versions for each of the selected articles is also being undertaken so that vandalised versions are not put on the DVD.
Some of the articles also have clean-up tags attached to them which need to be dealt with before a version can be used on the DVD. It would be good if members
could address any tags in the selected articles and fix the problem identified. Those articles that are tagged by multiple projects should get a visit by each of the projects involved
so the articles will probably get a lot of activity in the next few days.
The cut-off date for this work is October 20th, but changes to articles following version selection may not be incorporated as there may not be time to reassess them.
Please remember...
The project is now subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
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Tennis champions
Oddly enough I didn't notice your message on my talk page until just now (it was from Aug. 30). I appreciate your input, but we tried a sortable wikitable before and ran into the exact same problem as you did. There is likely some solution to it, however I doubt anyone will work hard to find a fix unless someone seriously complains about our two-article compromise. Thanks for your help though. Eightball (talk) 01:06, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 4085 last month to 4284 on October 27th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 29 out of a total number of 1708 articles. In the area of GAs, at 24, WP:YORKS also falls behind WP:GM with 30.
As mentioned in the October newsletter, Wikipedia DVD Version 0.7, which aims to be a collection of around 30,000 articles taken from the English version of Wikipedia needed work to prepare 43 of the project's articles for the DVD.
The process of producing the list of articles for the DVD is now completed and thanks are due to the many members who made a contribution to the effort. The list of selected Yorkshire articles can be seen here.
The selection was done using a scoring system depending on the project's assessment, the number of incoming links to the article, the number of interwiki links the article had and the number of times the article had been viewed.
Only two of our top priority articles were not selected, Ripon and Wakefield, the others were cleaned up, improved, expanded and copyedited as far as time allowed.
There has again been a number of suggestions on the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal and this has been kept up to date.
The football and rugby editors have continued keeping abreast of most, if not all, of the top clubs.
WikiProkject Yorkshire editors have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist. Thanks.
A big "thank you" to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.
Priority Articles
The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows -
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Missing co-ordinates
A recent entry on the project talk page Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yorkshire#Missing coordinates alerted us to the fact that many of our articles do not display any geographical co-ordinates. Many also do not have infoboxes. As locational infoboxes usually have a field for co-ordinates, it was suggested that members might be able to kill two birds with one stone by adding an appropriate infobox at the same time as co-ordinates.
The infobox page usually includes detailed instructions for its use and many of the fields are not mandatory so are not displayed until information is entered.
The geographical co-ordinates for a location can be found on Google Earth.
Open Google Earth and enter the name of the location in the search box. (Quite often the article name can be copied and pasted directly into the search box but sometimes it is useful to add ,UK to the address.)
A results list is displayed beneath the search box.
Click on the right one.
Zoom in to check that the correct feature is being displayed on the image. (Sometimes the supposed feature is not at the centre of the page.)
Place the pointer over the location on the screen image and read the geographical co-ordinates from the panel at the bottom of the screen.
Make a note of the co-ordinates.
Open the tab of the article you are editing and add the co-ordinates in the co-ords field.
Once co-ordinates have been added the template {{coord missing}} should be removed from the article.
Please remember...
The project is now subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
The situation here is that two of our younger editors have created a 'project page' -- in project namespace (and hence highly visible!) I've been making a bigger thing about it than I need to, to try and stop them from doing anything worse and/or drawing attention to other text that could cause problems. My biggest fear is that someone will start widespread labelling that all the Thomas Pages have been written 'in universe', since that will require a great deal of work to resolve. (Just need to keep our heads down!)
Labelling anything as 'copyvio' here could cause problems. Recently I happened to look up the Subterranea Britannia (sp?) page for Mortehoe & Woolacombe railway station and noticed that some of the text from the WP article (written by me!) was now on the SubBrit page. Now I use the SubBrit page as a ref on the Woolacombe Station article, and there's nothing to say that SubBrit got the information from WP... So, just in case, I have added a note to the article's talk page!
Separate issue, and one I didn't want to draw attention to 'elsewhere'... While responding to the Duke/Oliver pages issue I realised that I could not find our character guidance on the WP:THOMAS pages. I may have skipped over it, but all I could find were some guidelines within the FAQs that covered just the TV Series pages. If you have a few moments to spare, could you have a scout round to see if you can find it again, then we can update the FAQs accordingly. Thanks
Good work so far but is there a way of reducing the space between the player's name and the 'personal information' heading. If you compare the similar style infoxes of association footballers and cricketers ... for example Clayton Zane and Donny Davies ... there's a noticeable difference. Any ideas on how to rectify this? Cheers. Jevansen (talk) 11:15, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. I'd try and assist with the infobox except that I have the programming skills of an Amish : ) Jevansen (talk) 01:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Signpost updated for November 17, 2008 and before.
Because the Signpost hasn't been sent in a while, to save space, I've condensed all seven issues that were not sent into this archive. Only the three issues from November are below.
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 4284 last month to 4532 on November 27th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 29 out of a total number of 1746 articles. In the area of GAs, at 24, WP:YORKS also falls behind WP:GM with 31.
As mentioned in the October newsletter, Wikipedia DVD Version 0.7, which aims to be a collection of around 30,000 articles taken from the English version of Wikipedia needed work to prepare 43 of the project's articles for the DVD.
The process of producing the list of articles for the DVD is now completed and thanks are due to the many members who made a contribution to the effort. The list of selected Yorkshire articles can be seen here.
The selection was done using a scoring system depending on the project's assessment, the number of incoming links to the article, the number of interwiki links the article had and the number of times the article had been viewed.
Since the last newsletter Northallerton has also been selected to go onto the DVD having recently achieved GA status.
Thanks
Thanks for all those who have been adding co-ordinate information to articles as a result of last month's newsletter. The major impact has been on the railway station articles, including disused ones, but other location articles have also been tackled. This effort means that the articles can be accessed directly from external sources such as Google maps and gives them a much higher profile.
There has again been a number of suggestions on the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal and this has been kept up to date.
The football and rugby editors have continued keeping abreast of most, if not all, of the top clubs.
WikiProkject Yorkshire editors have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist. Thanks.
A big "thank you" to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.
Priority Articles
The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows -
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Co-ordinates
Just to let you know that a bot is currently sub-dividing the articles with missing co-ordinate data into sub-categories for ease of use. You can now find the articles by looking at the categories for each area as — East, North, South and West. From the discussions it looks like only the co-ordinates in the title area are being used by external sites so articles with multiple co-ordinates are not being handled correctly as yet.
Happy Christmas
Just to say thanks for all the effort put in by members on articles covering the Yorkshire area and to wish everyone a happy Christmas. It is time to take a break and to spend some time with family and friends. May be even to indulge yourself in the food and drink that abounds at this time of year or even make that occasional visit to a church. What ever you do over the festive season enjoy it and see you next year.
Though if you are at a loose end then many of you will be getting some new toys to play with which can be used to enhance wiki articles. Those new digital cameras can be used to get photographs for some of the articles which are currently without and for which the Geograph site has nothing suitable. May be it is a new PC that you just need to play with then spend some time checking out the watchlist for vandalism which tends to go unnoticed when there are fewer regular editors around. It may even be a book which can be used to add references to an article. May be you want to do something different then try creating spoken articles see the Spoken article project.
The project is now subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
Thanks for the help in keeping an eye on Clem while he is on the main page. Very much appreciated. Your improvements are also appreciated and have improved the article. I do have a minor quibble with this edit however. I don't think we can pretend that the seasons used everywhere else in the cricket-playing world other than the UK don't exist, simply because they look a little confusing on the page. 1910–11 is as valid a season as 1910 or 1911. Your thoughts?
Good point about non-cricket fans. Perhaps I am being a little bit of a "chippy colonial"! Once again, thanks with the help with Clem; now back to watching the Australian middle order collapse! Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk06:37, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I was reading through the Kevin Pietersen article and noticed there was no mention of Hampshire in the main body of the article. It seemed like a major oversight, but thought the article used to cover it. This edit, six months ago removed the entire domestic section. Since it's been so long, I don't know if it slipped under the radar or not, but I thought as the article's main contributor I should check with you whether this was an accident and if it would be alright to re-add the section. Cheers, Nev1 (talk) 18:13, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
When using the Infobox cricketer biography how should years be expressed when a player has had two spells at a club. Take Chris Lewis as an example, 1996-2008 for Surrey seemed inaccurate hence the current format, but perhaps the seperate spells should be considered as seperate clubs. As the infobox expert I thought you might have some thoughts. Also on the Chris Lewis example which order should Notts and Leics be, Leics are more recent but if Notts are placed bottom then it's out of chronological order. --Jpeeling (talk) 15:00, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 4532 last month to 4822 on December 19th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 29 out of a total number of 1763 articles. In the area of GAs, at 25, WP:YORKS also falls behind WP:GM with 36.
Thanks for all those who have been adding co-ordinate information to articles as a result of last month's newsletter. The major impact has been on the railway station articles, including disused ones, but other location articles have also been tackled. This effort means that the articles can be accessed directly from external sources such as Google maps and gives them a much higher profile.
There has again been a number of suggestions on the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal and this has been kept up to date.
The football and rugby editors have continued keeping abreast of most, if not all, of the top clubs.
WikiProkject Yorkshire editors have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist. Thanks.
A big "thank you" to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.
Priority Articles
The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows -
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Citations
Citations are a necessity to give credence to the articles that we produce, so that the facts given can be verified. One of the templates that is used for this is {{Cite book}} to give details of books used for creating the articles. There has been some changes to the template that we should be aware of and make changes accordingly when editing articles. The id= field should no longer be used to give the ISBN number for a book instead use the isbn= parameter. The page= and pages= parameters now have the p. or pp. automatically inserted and so we should just put the page number in the fields. Use page= for a single page and pages= for multiple pages. If the insertion of p. or pp. is not required then use nopp=true to suppress this. Note that the number of pages in a book is not specified using these fields and at the moment a new parameter is being discussed to cover this.
Happy New Year
Hope everyone enjoyed the festive season and are not feeling too worse for ware. At the start of a new year we all look back at what has happened in the last year and look forward to the coming year. It is time to take stock of what has happened in the last year well we have managed to get some priority articles selected and to get this newsletter in place to keep members up to date on what is happening. Articles have been tagged and assessed, a watchlist of these has been set up for members to keep track of changes to those articles that the project is interested in. So over all great steps have been made in the last year and thanks to everyone for the efforts put in. Looking forward it is time to make some targets for the coming year. If anyone has any ideas for what we should be doing in the coming year then please share them on the project talk page.
The project is now subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
The umpiring section of the infobox doesn't look accurate on this page, any chance you could add a 'onetest' feature for umpires, or possibly simpler when "testsumpired" = 1 then (umptestdebutyr), if that makes any sense. --Jpeeling (talk) 19:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 4822 last month to 5108 on January 30th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 31 out of a total number of 1798 articles. In the area of GAs, at 26, WP:YORKS also falls behind WP:GM with 41.
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Article Activity Monitoring
Article activity is now been recorded at Wikipedia:WikiProject Yorkshire/Article alerts by the bot ArticleAlertbot. This gives details of the changes that have taken place in the last 14 days in the status of articles tagged for the project. The status changes being monitored are :-
Proposed deletion
Articles for deletion
Miscellany for deletion
Templates for deletion
Categories for deletion
Good article nominations
Good article reassessment
Good topic candidates
Featured article candidates
Featured article reviews
Featured list candidates
Featured list removal candidates
Featured topic candidates
Peer review
Requests for comments
Requested moves
Did you know
The project is now subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
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Forget that, I've fixed it by entering 'women' after the teams. I had assumed entering true for the female field automatically adjusted these. --Jpeeling (talk) 21:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia Signpost — February 23, 2009
This week, the Wikipedia Signpost published volume 5, issue 8, which includes these articles:
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 5108 last month to 5202 on February 17th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 32 out of a total number of 1801 articles. In the area of GAs, at 32, WP:YORKS also falls behind WP:GM with 42.
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Orphan articles
Members may have noticed a new spate of article tagging by bots in the last month. A large number (over 250) of articles belonging to the project have been tagged with the {{Orphan}} template indicating that there are no or few incoming links to the article. It would be helpful if members tried to reduce the number of tagged articles by introducing wikilinks into related articles so that there is a minimum of three links to each of the orphaned articles. Once the links are in place the tag can be removed and the bot should not re-add the tag. The bot is currently only doing articles with no incoming links.
Portal
Those of you with eagle eyes may have spotted the change made to the Yorkshire Portal link in the project template. Rather than the usual jig-saw image it has been changed to the Yorkshire Rose image to give it a more distinctive look and hopefully raise the profile of the portal.
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on February 25th.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
Could you reference the second section of the lead? The fact their album won a BRIT award is kind of crucial to their notability. - Mgm|(talk)12:15, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia Signpost — 9 March 2009
This week, the Wikipedia Signpost published volume 5, issue 10, which includes these articles:
On March 10, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Blake (band), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
I have taken pictures of at least 3 different pipe organs lately....but getting them "featured" isn't too good if no one will be there to see them! --Boston (talk) 12:00, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi there MD, I noticed that like me, you are opposed to any form of dates autoformatting. I have created some userboxes which you might like to add to your userspace to indicate your position. You will find the boxes here. Ohconfucius (talk) 06:21, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 5202 last month to 5866 on March 29th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 32 out of a total number of 1828 articles. In the area of GAs, at 35, WP:YORKS also falls behind WP:GM with 40.
To those who have done some work on sorting the orphan articles mentioned in the last newsletter. The number has decreased but there is still some way to go.
There has again been a number of suggestions on the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal and this has been kept up to date.
The football and rugby editors have continued keeping abreast of most, if not all, of the top clubs.
WikiProkject Yorkshire editors have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist. Thanks.
A big "thank you" to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.
Priority Articles
The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows -
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Co-ordinates
Further runs of the bot to tag articles with the {{coord missing}} template have been made during the last month. This has resulted in a significant number of the project's articles being tagged as needing coordinate data adding. At the time of writing there are 719 articles assigned to the Yorkshire categories with more expected as the bot moves articles from the United Kingdom and England categories into the county categories. It would be good if we could get the number down as when the co-ordinates are in place the article is available to other providers such as Google to display on maps. The best way of doing this is to complete the appropriate field(s) in the infobox template, if there is no template then consider adding one and killing two birds with one stone.
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on March 9th.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 5866 last month to 6113 on April 25th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 41 out of a total number of 1835 articles. In the area of GAs, at 36, WP:YORKS equals WP:GM.
Thank you and well done to all those who contributed.
Article Activity
Architecture of Leeds was promoted to GA on April 5th York was nominated for GA on April 7th York failed its GA review on April 17th
Member News
There are now 60 members of WikiProject Yorkshire! There have been no changes in the membership since the April newsletter.
Thanks
To those who have done some work on adding co-ordinates and infoboxes to articles as mentioned in the last newsletter. The number has decreased but there is still some way to go.
There has again been a number of suggestions on the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal and this has been kept up to date.
The football and rugby editors have continued keeping abreast of most, if not all, of the top clubs.
WikiProkject Yorkshire editors have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist. Thanks.
A big "thank you" to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.
Priority Articles
The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows -
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Article tagging
This month I thought that I would focus on article tagging. Article tagging is the means of identifying that an article is within the scope of the project. This is done by placing the project template {{WikiProject Yorkshire}} on the talk page of an article below any existing project banners. Some pages have a number of banners and can get very cluttered, if this is the case then a shell is used to wrap the templates together and collapse them down to a single line. The main shells in use are {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} and {{WikiProjectBanners}} and any new template should be added inside the shell template. There is no longer a requirement to add the 'nested=yes' parameter to the Yorkshire template when doing this as it will be ignored.
Why tag, you may ask, the reason is to be able to locate relevant articles among all of Wikipedia's articles. If article 'Foo' is relevant to Yorkshire then, unless it is tagged, no one in the project will know it exists unless they happen to stumble across it. The odds are against this happening so tagging makes it easily identifiable to project members.
Once an article has been tagged it can be assessed to see what quality and importance it is to the project. This is done using the assessment parameters to the template, 'class=' and 'importance=', you can leave these to more experienced people to pick-up and assign. The results of this are shown in the statistics table on the left of the newsletter. Tagging also makes the articles appear on the project watchlist, article alerts log and clean-up listing when they are refreshed by the appropriate bot. It also provides readers with a point of contact if they wish to discuss the article in more detail and no responce has been received on the article's talk page or a wider audience is required on the discussion.
I would therefore encourage members to add the project template to the talk pages of articles they find that are relevant to the project so the rest of us know that it exists. You can also tag templates, categories etc. as these are all relevant to maintenance of the articles in the scope of the project. Vandalism on a template can affect a large number of articles so it needs watching.
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on March 9th.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
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WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 6113 last month to 6344 on May 30th). We have recently overtaken WP:LONDON which has 6283 articles. WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 38 out of a total number of 1850 articles. In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 42 is just behind WP:GM with 44.
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Browsers
According to the article Usage share of web browsers the percentage of people using the Mozilla Firefox browser has increased steadily since 2004 and it now stands at 22.56%. The percentage of Wikipedia editors using Firefox is probably considerably higher because the Firefox browser has a number of advantages for editors. Not least of these is the add-on that lets you right click on a web page to get a Cite Web pop up on the menu. WPCITE allows you easily to create a citation template. This makes the laborious task of filling in web citation templates (almost) a thing of the past.
Another advantage of Firefox is the ability to use wikiEd which is a full-featured Wikipedia-integrated text editor that adds enhanced text processing functions to edit pages. And there is a spell checker Currently, wikEd works under Firefox, SeaMonkey, Safari, and Google Chrome, but not under Internet Explorer and Opera.
Mention of these other browsers reminds me that not all browsers render pages in the same way. What appears to be a beautiful layout in one browser can be rendered as a tangled mess of text and images by another. As most browsers can be downloaded for free, it is worth having several on your computer just to check the appearance of articles. Bear in mind that many people who use Wikipedia just for reference will have only Internet Explorer, and possibly quite an old version, so some of the latest "bells and whistles" may not work for them.
My apologies to old hands who already know all this, but to new users it really is worthwhile looking into the possibilities of different browsers on Wikipedia.
September 2011, web browser usage share. Source: Median values from summary table.
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on March 9th.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
As of 30 May, 2009, we have assessed 100% of all articles with a project banner.
(Some new and additional article talk pages may still require a banner however)
Thanks
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
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Go for it! Collie will get 1 less point than KP as I've had articles at Main Page before. And KP is much higher profile (not to mention that Collie's place is perhaps no more than 90% assured) --Dweller (talk) 09:55, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Why not. As she who must be obeyed has changed her name in real life, I could do so here. Do I need to make a formal request (to change to MDCollins - my current sig), or can you authorize it on the strength of this?! Thanks for the kind words at WP:TFAR :-)
Yes please! I gather that it isn't possible to change an entire SUL, but that each wiki needs changing individually - what a stupid system! Is it possible to change the en: login then merge to old with the new to in effect move the SUL? In any case, feel free to proceed with the local change. Cheers!—MDCollins (talk) 23:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
I can only do a local change, which I'll do in a minute. You then need to secure the SUL on it (do it through your Preferences as soon as possible). Then contact a steward and ask for help with the SUL... and let me know what they say, I'm interested. --Dweller (talk) 09:56, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Bah. This gets more irritating. But we're almost there. There's already a User:MDCollins, created in 2006. It has no edits at all and should be a breeze to usurp. Place a request please at WP:USURP and it'll be done. --Dweller (talk) 10:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
I have reviewed Pipe organ for GA Sweeps to determine if it still qualifies as a Good Article. In reviewing the article I have found several issues, which I have detailed here. Since you are a main contributor of the article (determined based on this tool), I figured you would be interested in contributing to further improve the article. Please comment there to help the article maintain its GA status. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 01:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Confirming both again as I got logged back into my old username. Should that even happen anyway? This is me (MDCollins).—MDCollins (talk) 02:16, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 6344 last month to 6538 on June 28th). We have recently overtaken WP:LONDON which has 6318 articles. WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 39 out of a total number of 1862 articles. In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 45 is just ahead of WP:GM who have 44.
Thank you and well done to all those who contributed.
Article Activity
Siward Barn was promoted to GA on May 10th Oslac of York was promoted to GA on May 18th Thomas Ferens was promoted to GA on June 6th Wilfred was promoted to FA on June 9th Ilkley was nominated for GA on June 11th Sheffield was nominated for a FAR on June 18th Peak District was nominated for GA on June 18th York was submitted for a peer review on June 21st
Member News
There are now 64 members of WikiProject Yorkshire! A warm welcome to the new members that have joined us since the June newsletter:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Citing sources for your text
In recent months some really promising Yorkshire articles from new editors have been appearing on Wikipedia. These editors have worked hard to produce interesting and informative texts with some exquisite images. However, some of these articles have lacked any verifiable sources, an absolute must for Wikipedia articles. Additional research is usually necessary to write a good article. An article has to be verifiable and citereliable sources which ideally should include books or peer reviewed journal articles. Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed. The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation.
Fortunately, Wikipedia provides a number of easily used tools to help with this task. Beside the Firefox add on that was mentioned last month there are a couple of toolbar options to help editors.
The first is on the default toolbar. It's the <ref>...</ref> button. This places any text that is placed between the markers in the References section on the article page.
The second handy tool is obtained by going to the my preferences section on the menu tabs at the top of the page, click GADGETS, go to Editing gadgets and check refTools. Save your options and a new CITE button is added to your editing toolbar. This little wonder, when clicked, produces options for citation templates beneath the existing toolbar. It is a fairly simple task then to copy and paste the information into the template and when you've completed as much as you can, click the Add citation button. This produces an inline citation. Of course this all depends on there being a References section on the page with either the <references/> markup or {{Reflist}} template added.
If you are in doubt about an unsourced statement, try copying the phrase or sentence and pasting it into the search box of your favourite search engine. Often this turns up a source which you can then add to the article yourself by filling in one of the citation templates on your editing toolbar. If you want to request a source for an unsourced statement, consider tagging a sentence by adding the {{fact}} template, a section with {{unreferencedsection}}, or the article with {{refimprove}} or {{unreferenced}}. Alternatively, you may leave a note on the talk page requesting a source, or you may move the material to the talk page.
Please remember...
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on June 18th. Here is an extract
The project has 15 top-importance articles. 8 of them, or 53.3%, are flagged for cleanup.
Articles with dead external links (Oct 2008), Articles with unsourced statements (Mar 2009)
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
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WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 6,538 last month to 6,651 on July 27th). WP:LONDON have had a major tagging spree by a bot and now have 12,595 articles which is twice as may as this project. WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 39 out of a total number of 1,946 articles. In the area of GAs WP:YORKS at 46 is just ahead of WP:GM who have 45.
Thank you and well done to all those who contributed.
Article Activity
Peak District passed a GA review on July 2nd Ilkley failed a GA review on July 19th Arctic Monkeys kept following GAR reassessment on July 21st York nominated for GA review on July 21st Geoffrey Boycott nominated for GA review on July 25th
Member News
There are now 65 members of WikiProject Yorkshire! A warm welcome to the new members that have joined us since the July newsletter:
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Images
This month we focus on a recent requirement for images in articles—that of supplying alternative text for each of the images. This has been raised in FAC debates and is now a requirement for FA articles and as a result there is a general push to get all images marked-up. For example the {{Infobox UK place}} is currently undergoing changes in preparation for the use of alternative text on its images.
Alternative text is text added to the image mark-up to describe the image to someone who cannot see the image. The alternative text is in addition to the caption and should not duplicate information in the caption. It should be added, without any wikimark-up or line-breaks in it, using the alt= parameter of the image mark-up. For more information on this see WP:ALT.
Example
The exterior of York Castle, including a large portion of the motte.
[[Image:York castle exterior.jpg|thumb|100px|alt=A tall, circular, roofless building of honey coloured stone positioned on top of a high mound of grass.|The exterior of York Castle, including a large portion of the motte.]]
(If you are using a standard graphical browser and want to read this image's alt text, ask the browser to display the image's properties. Usually right click, properties.)
The same requirement is to be applied to Math-mode formulas but is probably less important to this project as very few of our articles contain such mark-up.
Please remember...
The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. The latest listing was created on June 18th.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
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