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Positive discipline meta-study findings list format

Keith,

Thanks for all your help. Can you give me feedback on how I formatted the list on the Positive discipline page? ConflictScience (talk) 20:28, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, sorry for delay I clicked the wrong button and had to clear-up my mess. The list looks OK though the bolding in the "Nonviolent parenting options meta-study" section could do with removing to make it easier to read. Keith D (talk) 23:20, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for looking at it. I was thinking the opposite about the bolding, but I will re-think that. Thanks again! ConflictScience (talk) 23:32, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Note

Did you mean to indef 196.74.97.25 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Dylsss(talk contribs) 16:22, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

That was my intention. Though it probably will not be effective as the IP keeps changing addresses and making similar vandalism edits to video game articles. Keith D (talk) 16:58, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
It was under my impression that IPs are not indefinitely blocked unless in specific circumstances of repeated disruption and the IP is static (school blocks, web hosts). According to WHOIS, this looks a consumer IP, so I was just surprised to see that it was blocked indefinitely. Dylsss(talk contribs) 00:09, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for information. I probably was not thinking about that at the time when I issued the block. Taking another look I should have specified a specific time limit on the block. I will change. Keith D (talk) 02:14, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

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Middlehaven, Middlesbrough

I have just added a large Middlehaven section on Middlesbrough article. Please can you have a quick look to see if I have missed things off code or citation wise. Chocolateediter (talk) 16:30, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

User changing the access-dates on hundreds of articles

Hi Keith,

I saw that you reverted some of Amirkhosroo's edits changing of the access-dates to November 22, 2020 [3][4]. Despite being reverted by multiple editors, being warned to not misleadingly change the access dates on their talk page [5][6], being told to provide edit summaries for their changes, they are still continuing to mass change the access dates on least 75+ other articles just last night. Some1 (talk) 14:07, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Will have a look later. Keith D (talk) 14:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you; I'm not sure what the motivation is for the editor to change the access-dates on hundreds of articles to November 22, 2020, all within a span of seconds and minutes and in spurts on different days (since they don't respond to talk page comments). I can only guess that maybe they're trying to game the system and get the minimum requirements needed to edit WP:ECP-locked articles. But I don't know. Some1 (talk) 14:45, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
I have looked through the user's contributions and reverted the ones that have not already been reverted for this type of change. The others appear to be random wikilinks, though initially they were adding references, though one of these was reverted so may be the references need checking by someone who knows about the subject and could quickly validate them. They appear to be all about criminal activity of some form. Keith D (talk) 16:45, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
On the point of gaming the system, if this is the case then it could be that the WP:ECP calculation needs changing to not count reverted edits. It would be useful to be able to watch a user's activity, probably need to be an admin only thing. Keith D (talk) 17:01, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for looking through those. The user just made another batch of bot-like edits again, exactly 50 edits in 2 minutes. Most are wikilinks but some are changing the access-dates to '2020-11-22', this time not being spelled out. Some1 (talk) 06:59, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
I have reverted the accessdate changes and given them a 2 day block for disruptive editing. Suggesting they use edit summary or respond on their talk page. Keith D (talk) 12:38, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

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Guisborough and Hutton Gate stations

Ah yes, thank you – I like them better in England! Cheers DBaK (talk) 15:49, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Mind you, I liked them even better when they had trains, but ... grrr ...

Thanks, I am working round them slowly, I am dong about 100 a day so as to avoid swamping watchlists. Keith D (talk) 15:51, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Boring addendum: I walked past Hutton Gate and over its level crossing on my way to/from school every day for about 6 years. The trains stopped before I did, though. DBaK (talk) 09:17, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

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National Hand Touch Football League

Do you know I created the National Hand Touch Football League inspection of Daniel Hand Football just curious if we can chat on making an article about National Hand Touch Football League if possible. Demons24 (talk) 01:06, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

My edit was just to fix a "cite date error", I have no knowledge of the contents of the article. Keith D (talk) 01:11, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Inspiration out of Daniel Hand Football I mean Demons24 (talk) 01:12, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Sorry do not understand - I assumed you were talking about Draft:National Hand Touch Football League. Keith D (talk) 01:20, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing that error Demons24 (talk) 01:17, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I was just a little bit Demons24 (talk) 01:23, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Extended block

Can you please permanently block this guy: User:Amirkhosroo

I have reverted as many of his vandal edits as I can but I think there are a few more that I was unable to. There are still some edits of his that slipped through the net I think, any chance you can perm ban and revert all his edits please? It's pretty clear when he returns after the 2 day block he'll just continue to disrupt and vandal Wikipedia. Thanks. Inexpiable (talk) 18:38, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I have looked through their edits and it looks as though all of them have been reverted by several people. I have also changed the block to indefinite because of the speed and concerns over using some sort of unregistered BOT. There are thoughts that they may be gaming the system for some reason. Keith D (talk) 18:55, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Piped link, its not appropriate to display the "City of" in text since the article says its in the Leeds district the "City of" natural disambiguator isn't needed and its more likely if anything to cause confusion since people may think it refers to the settlement. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:19, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

That is the way that we normally do in the City of .... links rather than display just the settlement name which is just confusing. You could use City of Leeds Metropolitan County and drop the word district. Keith D (talk) 17:33, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
"Leeds" district is the simplest form rather than "City of Leeds Metropolitan County" and the OS just uses "Leeds" with "Leeds District" being an alternative. Similar to the fact that you can use [[railway station|station]] when the context is clear we don't need the natural disambiguation in the prose which is more confusing an unnecessary. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:49, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

16:14, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Draft article

Hi there, hope you are well. I have been drafting a new article and have spent a good amount of time on it - Draft:RAF Lakenheath near nuclear disasters. I was hoping to be able to get someone to review it for me. I noticed that you've done a couple of edits on the list of military nuclear accidents page, so I thought the topic area of my article (two Broken Arrow nuclear incidents) might be of interest to you. If you could review it for me would be immensely grateful. Snugglewasp (talk) 16:58, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

@Snugglewasp: I have had a look over the article. Comments on the read through.
  1. The lead should cover material in the body of the article and as such the references should appear there rather than in the lead.
  2. May be could try and rejig the first couple of sentences to get RAF Lakenheath near the start of first sentence.
  3. In the first section, probably need to move the image down towards the end of the section to prevent text sandwich between the image and the infobox. Or may be move the second infobox down to the relevant section.
  4. The first reference could do with a more reliable source rather than YouTube.
  5. Reference 5 could do with some detail filling in.
  6. The dates could be in the same format throughout, probably day first as UK article.
I have made a few formatting changes while looking through. I hope that the above comments are useful to you. Keith D (talk) 02:01, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

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Help needed, please?

Hi Keith. Due to past intimidation by people-who-may-not-be-misogynists-but-nevertheless-seem-to-troll-only-my-female-biographies, I would appreciate it if you could please kindly look over my latest female biog before I publish it. I am asking you because as you know, I don't always agree with what you say but you are hard-liner enough for your corrections to protect the article from hostile editing as soon as it is published. Without this sort of beforehand check, I am reluctant to publish any more female biographies. I am also asking you because this is a Yorkshire-based article, which I believe is, broadly speaking, on your patch.

The last assault targeted the living subject of the biography who was an artist approx 70 years old and had never done anything to deserve that. Since that happened I have not been able to edit that article because my edits just get reverted. One editor on the article's talk page seemed to think that the culling of most of the article was some sort of funny joke. Therefore, because the article has been so drastically reduced, I have had to send out copies of my userfied and updated full version of the article to the galleries and authorities who are involved with the artist's work. An employee of the Royal Academy, for example, was shocked at the treatment that this artist has received on Wikipedia, and very grateful to receive the copy of my userfied version.

The artist subject of my current unpublished article is dead and cannot be hurt, but still deserves a normal level of respect and recognition for her work, so this is why I am asking for the article to be checked before publishing. I should add that I am in the process of purchasing a number of bmd certificates to confirm relationships, although much of that is already confirmed via the usual third-party authoritative sources in the article. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 17:20, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, looks OK to me. I have made some minor formatting changes mainly for consistency and MOS type changes. The use of World War I/II is usually avoided in British articles which tend to prefer the First/Second World War as that is more usual in British English. The other comment on the formatting would be the punctuation placement before quotes which would go against WP:LQ in some cases. Keith D (talk) 01:17, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
Thank you very much for that, Keith, much appreciated. Thank you for your edits, and I shall see to the other points that you raised. I have realised that I must also add the paywall barrier symbols to some of the sources. With luck, the article should be published today. Cheers. Storye book (talk) 09:46, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
The article Hilda Annetta Walker is now published. Thank you again for your help with that. Storye book (talk) 11:59, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
I'm really sorry to have to keep bothering you on this subject, but I don't know where else to turn. Please look at the article and talk page. It's happening again. It doesn't happen to the biographies of men that I create. I have had to revert twice and I am not permitted to revert again. I have requested discussion, but as of this moment, no discussion has happened. Please arbitrate? Thank you. Storye book (talk) 21:35, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Hallo Keith, I noticed your edit ... I must say that I have doubts about this, even though it's mentioned in the thesis ("A proficient hockey player at Halliwick, the girls boarding school she and Beatrice attended in Yorkshire,", and a photo caption of "Halliwick School Reunion, 1895; the Elmet Team, with Annette, Beatrice and Ethel Kitson and other cricketers. (C. M-S.)"). Googling finds absolutely no mention of this school: there's a Halliwick School for Crippled Girls in London, there's Halliwick Manor in Middlesex, but a girls boarding school of 1895 would not have vanished without leaving a trace. I suspect that the thesis author misread the caption on the photo, or misremembered something. I really doubt that this school existed. But I'm trying to have a Wikibreak so will now log off. PamD 09:23, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

From digging around it was probably Halliwick Manor School, New Southgate that was the school. Possibly Halliwick manor house mentioned in the New Southgate article. Keith D (talk) 12:19, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Quit beating me to the punch

I can't count the number of times I've opened a page to fix the cite date error, only to press save and be told that you've already fixed it. Thanks for working hard on those errors; it's a pretty tedious job. kennethaw88talk 16:43, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Probably because changes to the category are on my watchlist - though the changes do not always trigger a watchlist entry for some reason. Thanks for all the work you do on the date errors – it is coming down slowly. Keith D (talk) 16:48, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

20:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

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Hi. Are these categories [18] Ok? Happy new tear.Histomisus (talk) 17:17, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Happy New Year. Looks OK on first glance. (Probably need a new keyboard here as shift key not working correctly) Keith D (talk) 17:23, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. And I know what you mean. Had also these experiences.Histomisus (talk) 19:11, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

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Promo or legit user?

Dear Keith, I am sorry to bother you but could you please have a look at this user's edits? I am sure that they would argue that they are just sharing information but I am concerned that they may also be here to promote a particular walking app. I am neither an admin nor all that experienced in this field but it does strike me that there are a LOT of walking apps and sites which could be in ELs – I know that we had, perhaps similarly, to fend off a rash of books being added to the Coast to Coast Walk article in the past. What do you think? If you don't think it needs admin action then fine: I will just peaceably let them chug on and only argue in articles to which I have a commitment. Cheers DBaK (talk) 12:30, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I do not think that they are doing anything too concerning just using information from a specific source. Though I think that they should not be adding an external link to the article if they have already added a reference using the same source. The one I looked at they have added the site as a reference that does not actually support the length given as they have got the metric/imperial conversion wrong. May be you could ask as Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard to see if it is considered a reliable source. Keith D (talk) 12:52, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

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revert of ignore-err=

Hi, re this revert: which errors does it suppress? Whether I view the old or new versions, they both show exactly the same two harv warnings - and they are on the first two entries (one {{cite book}} and one {{cite web}}) in the Bibliography.

  • Harv warning: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREFThomas,_Cliff2002.
  • Harv warning: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREFGrace2015.

and these do not relate to any of the {{sfn}} concerned. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:31, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

The parameter removes the error
"NHLE 2000. sfn error: no target: CITEREFNHLE2000 (help)"
which creates a valid link.
The templates have since been modified to not place the |ignore-err= parameter in to the error category. Keith D (talk) 20:42, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Are you still using the old version of HarvErrors? It wasn't updated to take into account developments made by Trappist the monk in Module:Citation/CS1 that occurred eight or so months back. Try using the amended one instead. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:36, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Have changed the script as suggested - but that does not change anything. You still need the parameter to stop the article been placed in category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors by {{sfn}} Keith D (talk) 21:50, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
To see the error messages that Editor Keith D is seeing, add this line to User:Redrose64/monobook.css:
.harv-error {display: inline !important;} /* display Module:Footnotes errors */
Then compare this version (does not have |ignore-err=yes) with this version (has |ignore-err=yes).
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16:09, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello Keith D. Happy to connect. I believe you might have made an edit to the draft article that I recently resubmitted, but I don’t see any changes. Did I miss something? If so, please feel free to let me know. I'm still new to Wikipedia. I realize that you are an experienced editor, so I would appreciate any feedback you could give me if or when you have a moment. Wikipedia is fascinating to me and I would love to learn more about the editing process. I look forward to your response. Thanks for your time. Phoenix7119 (talk) 01:05, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello, the changes were to references 7 & 9 where I removed the square brackets from the |date= field. The change removes the red error messages "Check date values in: |date= (help)". You can view the changes via the history tab as per this link.
At a quick scan of the article there are several embedded external links which need to be removed, possibly made in to references. Book and magazine titles are usually given in italic text. Headings should be in sentence case. Keith D (talk) 01:21, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks so much for removing the square brackets. I viewed those changes via the history tab. Per your suggestions, I removed the embedded external links, made sure the references were in place, italicized all book and magazine titles, corrected all headings to reflect sentence case and made a few additional changes as well. Your suggestions were invaluable. Thanks again. And thank you for your time. Phoenix7119 (talk) 04:10, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

List of cities

I don't understand why my edits were reverted. It was factually correct, the dates I added, and the remaining 'time immemorial' cities pre-date Wells, with uncertain dates of their founding as sees. If my edits are to be reverted, then the Durham date should be reverted to 'time immemorial' too. 2.25.196.115 (talk) 12:58, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

18:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC)


Disruptive editing of ItsLife1

Hi user Keith D,

ItsLife1 inserted the following statement to the oromo people page:

“Certain non-Shewan Oromo had been branded by Naftenyans as outsiders and called the derogatory term "galla", meaning "savage", "slave", or "enemy," the term was originally used by Somalis to refer to non-Somalis (as a term for foreigner or outsider) and applied to non-Muslims (as a term for infidels).[44] The term “Galla” was also used by Northern Oromo clans against Southern Oromo clans for having different social class characteristics from each other. Tigrayans were also known for calling Amhara people “galla” or “half-galla” because Amhara majority regions of that time period (mostly in modern day Amhara Region) in Northern Ethiopia were ruled over by Northern Oromo clans such as the Yejju Oromo clan and the Wollo Oromo clan with the Amharas being subjects of the Oromo rulers,[45] especially during the Zemena Mesafint in which the Yejju Oromo ruled over the Northern Ethiopian portion of Ethiopian Empire. During the 17th century, the Yejju dynasty (more specifically, the Warasek dynasty) ruled much of the Ethiopian Empire during the Zemene Mesafint or "Era of Princes", changing the language in the court of Gondar (in modern day Amhara Region) to the Oromo language.”

  • He claimed “ galla term originally used by Somali and northern oromo clans used against southern oromo clans.” I have gone through Both sources never mentioned. Deliberately distorting statement is a serious an offence. All this statement is made-up story not validating


Please check sock puppet account and other account pushing the same thing agenda and intervene the statement made on that page. what He really doing is not right , Edit warring is the act of overriding the contributions of other editors here other as well 196.191.159.234 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) vandalised oromo people page by Unnecessary and unsupported ethnic slur added 196.191.159.234 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) vandalised metekele zone page by changing demography. MfactDr (talk) 21:22, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for editing my Wikipedia page. Itsactuallyrig (talk) 19:59, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

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Disruptive bot

Hello. I've been monitoring some pages and this account: User:Haseebshoaibakthar is definitely a bot that has been making a lot of strange edits, some of which are breaking references and causing disruption. I have a strong feeling it could be the same person behind this account that you previously banned: User:Amirkhosroo, some of the articles being edited by this new bot are the same ones that account was editing. Wondering if you could please ban it? Another user has already reported him and he is disrupting a lot of templates within pages. The edit log clearly shows it is a bot given how quick the edits are made. Thanks. Inexpiable (talk) 13:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

The edits I have looked at do not appear to be disruptive to warrant a ban. They are just hyphenating |accessdate=, removing spaces and fixing reference names. Though it does look like they are editing fast for a normal manual editor. Can you point me at the report of the user? Keith D (talk) 13:41, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Reported here [38] and here [39] examples of disruptive editing are listed by the reporter in the second link. Inexpiable (talk) 15:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Another edit that broke a reference [40] Inexpiable (talk) 15:55, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for detail, I have blocked them initially for a week. Keith D (talk) 16:52, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Fixed cite dates

Hi, you have fixed a lot of my cite dates, thank you! I generally use the automatic cite inserter, and sometimes manually but I am not sure how to fix them when the date is only for the month. If you would be kind enough to give me some input on how to structure those properly, I could save you some clean-up work. :) DrGvago (talk) 20:14, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello, when the dates are just for a month and year then you have to spell out the month and place it before the year. |date=January 2021 is the only way to do it unless you are using short months when it is |date=Jan 2021 but I tend to try and avoid them. Hope that helps. Keith D (talk) 20:21, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you, I will give that a try. I appreciate the instruction. DrGvago (talk) 20:24, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

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17:54, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

North Country Basketball Association

https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:North_Country_Basketball_Association can my draft be edited? North Country Basketball (talk) 18:51, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Cool thanks I would like to add it eventually if I can North Country Basketball (talk) 18:56, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

It just keeps getting taken down it is a real league that’s why I want to edit North Country Basketball (talk) 19:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry I do not understand what you mean by "being taken down". As far as I can see you are the only person to edit that article to which you have made 4 edits. Once you are ready to go live with the article you can submit it for articles for creation process that will move it to main space rather than draft space. Though in its current form I do not think that the article will be accepted. You need to improve the references using reliable sources that are independent of the organisation in question. Keith D (talk) 19:17, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks it’s a real league in the DeKalb Park in New York I know I am not ready for a full article that’s why I wanted you to take a look at it North Country Basketball (talk) 19:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for editing on it North Country Basketball (talk) 19:33, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Can you also put a lock on it so when it’s ready for a full article some day it can be added North Country Basketball (talk) 19:38, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry cannot lock article - anyone is free to edit it. Though it could be deleted if no edits have taken place in 6 months. Keith D (talk) 19:40, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

That’s what I don’t want to hear it being deleted how to not delete the article North Country Basketball (talk) 19:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

While it is in draft space it will not be deleted unless there is no edits / progress to making it acceptable in 6 months. If it makes it to mainspace then if the topic is felt to be not notable then any editor is free to nominate it for deletion and it will be up to the community to decide to delete or keep the article. Keith D (talk) 19:47, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Ok I do have one other article I would like to create snow Basketball North Country Basketball (talk) 19:49, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Imagicaa It is in this article it’s basketball played in Snow North Country Basketball (talk) 19:53, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Snow Basketball

https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Imagicaa This is Snow Basketball North Country Basketball (talk) 20:07, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

The article Draft:Snow Basketball when it moves in to main space will automaticity be linked to the Imagicaa article. Keith D (talk) 20:13, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Ok thanks North Country Basketball (talk) 20:15, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


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