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Re: Stuff

Thanks for the DYK review.

Regarding your recent edit to Hilary's article, be sure to add a source in. The Infobox should never have any information that isn't mentioned (and sourced) later in the article. Cheers! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 21:02, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Yea, currently I'm in first. You should join! It's a fun excuse to write a lot of articles. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:47, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

This storm. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:07, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Here is the storm's description, and there is a usable image that could be helpful. It's not an impact image, but it's related to the storm. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:17, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Here is the finalized death toll, estimated at more than 193 between Florida and Cuba. You should rely on stats from the Monthly Weather Review - [1]. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:07, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

It seems decent, but be careful when breaking it up like that. What if the plantation deaths were in Havana, for example? You would've counted the deaths twice. It is good, however, that you have exactly how many died from the railway. Just keep on chugging along, you're doing fine :) --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:18, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Wow, great job with everything! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:20, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Actually, any of those sources might be found online. For example, Google books has many old books for hurricanes, and I even found one hurricane in complete form in a regular Google search. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:26, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Sweet! I love working on old storms. There's so much information out there on them, and the storms back then were so much more destructive due to lack of warning. It's kind of sad, but it makes for good article writing. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:28, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Sounds like aftermath. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:31, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

You should archive your peer review while you have the GAN open. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:04, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

I'd say preps section would work. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:38, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

I'm not really sure what you mean. I'm on the IRC channel right now if you wanna come on. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:02, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Not sure about the discrepancy. The NHC list even cites the MWR, but the MWR doesn't list over 100 deaths. Sometimes you just have to list the total effects without going into location-by-location breakdown. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:13, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Good luck with both storm articles. I'm sure they'll be easy GA's. As for the season, hmm. Be sure to write good summaries for every storm, and use the same sources that allowed you to write the two storm articles. Be sure to use the meta data here for the individual storms. Some sections are only going to have two to three sentences, so don't worry too much about those. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:11, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Don't remind me! It'll be nervewracking from here on out. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 14:48, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikifications

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Collaboration

Heya! I noticed we have somewhat similar editing styles. We could put that to use and collaborate on a project, e.g. working on making a specific hurricane season a good topic. Let me know what you think; if you have any ideas on what we could work on, that'd be great too. Anything would be appreciated! Auree ★ 13:37, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Well, the ideal thing would be to do a season that's in pretty bad shape. We'll learn much more from that than working on one that's in decent shape and only requires a few quick tweaks to get to GT. We'll have to look at the project class assessments, which can be found here. Two possibilities would be the 1992 and 1996 seasons. The 1992 season is a bit easier, since it only has a few articles at C-class and two of them are already GAs. The 1996 season, however, has a lot more articles with only one at GA and a bunch at start class. I really don't mind which season we do; that's your call. I know George is busy with two seasons (iirc the 1995 and 1997 season), so any season but those would be awesome. Auree ★ 13:59, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Steve Jobs

haha, I was hoping that was a mistake! Jeancey (talk) 01:01, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Ha ha, stoopid Twinkle, now I'm gonna be famous. :P HurricaneFan 25 01:03, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Hahahahahahahah! Classic mistake. No harm done! :D --TheSeer (TalkˑContribs) 01:04, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for Tropical Storm Greta (1970)

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The DYK project (nominate) 12:23, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Tropical Depression Numbering issues prior to 1988

This is a repost from the project page, where I have mentioned it a few times over the years:

NHC added the non-developmental database into their ATCF system in February, which means that the old tracks which were transcribed from graph paper to digital format 3-4 years ago are now part of the official database. A woohoo and a d'oh are both in order because of this addition. However, other than some formatting issues during the digitization, a formal reanalysis has not been completed for these systems, as far as far as I can tell. Nor do I remember seeing formal TD designations in that file, which now means that there are two ways to number TDs from 1981-1987 (real-time and ATCF renumbering), three different ways to number depressions between 1972 and 1987 (real-time numbering, after-the-fact numbering the following year, and ATCF numbering which are all different), and four ways to number them between 1967 and 1971 (real-time numbering which covers both the Atlantic and EPac, Atlantic-only numbering, after-the-fact numbering the following year, and ATCF numbering). The big omission (whether on purpose or by accident) was TD 9 of 1977, which impacted NC. This also means that the mainly extratropical Late November 1984 nor'easter is there as tropical for its whole track. Oy. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:51, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

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MtC drive

You may now put yourself on the logs subpage. There's instructions on the page. I simplified it alot. ~~Ebe123~~ (+) ^talk
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You accidentaly put it at /Progress! I moved it to the correct place. ~~Ebe123~~ (+) ^talk
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Re:TD 12

Did you check Spanish sources? I think CB is correct here, I just want proof. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 13:46, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

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A beer for you!

I want to commend you for making very good, very thought provoking questions for RfA candidates... something that there has always been a distinct lack of. Trusilver 01:45, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

I have to say I agree. I was just reading your question to me and I was very impressed; it's very challenging and thought provoking for an RfA question. I say this as both an RfA regular and as the candidate on the receiving end: well done. Swarm 02:57, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

I've just answered it. There were a few parts that were a bit confusing to me, and I went with what I thought you meant, so if I clearly misunderstood any part of the question, please let me know. But in any case, that was a hell of a question! You should be giving me a beer! :P Swarm 04:37, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

IRC

Hey Hfan, why don't you join the WPTC IRC channel once in a while? It'd be awesome to speak to you in person, and we could all get to know you a bit better. This is the link, and the channel name is #wiki-hurricanes. All you have to do is fill in the CAPTCHA thing and you're good to go. Auree ★ 02:11, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Hey, come on tonight! We're all there. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 23:54, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Daw, I won't be around then. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:19, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Hey, we're on now if you wanna hop on! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:03, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Yea, we're also usually around at 3 pm EDT. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:07, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

When are you usually on Wiki? There's someone in the IRC almost all the time :P --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:20, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Random times :P Well, I'm on there now ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 13:59, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

It probably wouldn't appear in Google news then. Although, you should try looking for just Nicaragua in that time period. You might have to go through a few pages, but in a typical day in 1906, I can't see there being many stories about a Central American country. Look for things like wind, storm, and flood. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 18:44, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

GA review

Hey, I'm sorry to do this, but I found a bunch of errors with your one GAN. I had to fail it. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:05, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

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Re:Your GA reviews

I am not trying to sound rude, but if you do not like the way I review the articles, than frankly, you should have done it yourself. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:37, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Occupy San Jose

Hey Hurricanefan, you know I'm in agreement with you (mostly) on those Occupy articles--but please refrain from using those awful, huge boxes. They don't present your argument any better than normal font and layout, and IMO are the equivalent of shouting (see, for instance, WP:SHOUT and WP:IMRIGHT. I've chastised Rangoon11 for the same thing on a different AfD, and that was before I saw that they took your cue. Call me old-fashioned if you like... Drmies (talk) 16:44, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Collab

Honestly, all but Alberto and Gordon are modestly close to GA status. I propose we try to get those close to GA to GA first. Auree ★ 20:06, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for 1906 Florida Keys hurricane

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8 arrests were made at Occupy San José

FYI: Arrests have been made... San Jose: Eight Occupy Wall Street protesters arrested, one cited Burleyc1 (talk) 17:28, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Replied at AfD. HurricaneFan 25 20:33, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: 1906

First, take a look at other seasons in that time period that are good. That might give some ideas of what you could do for a lede. Personally, I would indicate an overall summary, indicating the strongest/deadliest/most notable storm(s). Mention when the first one formed and when the last one dissipated. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 01:40, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Hurricane Paula (2010)

Hi

I have done a copyedit on the History section, but need an OK to make sure it is acceptable :¬) I have also added a note on the talk page. Chaosdruid (talk) 05:09, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me. I did only move the date from the beginning to the end, if that has changed the context then apologies. When I got there it said "On date, exited and dissipated." Perhaps putting the date it dissipated would be advantageous? "... and dissipated on September 30." Chaosdruid (talk) 22:13, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you!

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I noticed you do a lot of reviewing for good article status on hurricanes. A few months ago, I created Cyclone Fay and Cyclone Harvey and was wondering if you might have any suggestions on ways to improve the articles (not necessarily to GA status, since they're probably a bit on the small side for that). Thanks! Inks.LWC (talk) 06:57, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Would you mind assessing Cyclone Fay, and if you think it might be a good candidate for a good article, let me know. Like I said, it may be a bit too short, and I went through a Google search about 15 pages back (I'd already done News Google), and found 2 more news stories that had more damage reports, but I think the article is about maxed out in what I can add. Thanks so much for all the help on this! Inks.LWC (talk) 01:50, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

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DYK for 1906 Pensacola hurricane

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re:Note

I forgot to hit the save page button. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 20:22, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

AFAIK No, it was too early to get a good sat pic. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 20:27, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

re: Cindy

The best tip for a FA is that you find lots of interesting info. Just simply listing a bunch of stats doesn't make the article terribly engaging. Find out what made the storm unique. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 02:14, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

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Barnstar thanks

Thank you for the barnstar. This one means a lot to me, as both events occurred in my immediate area, so I felt an obligation to make sure we had good pictures and articles. (In fact, this is the first time I've ever said to myself "if I were someone else seeing me do this I'd give me a barnstar" that it actually happened). Daniel Case (talk) 19:28, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Re: Cindy

Hey, yea! Nice work on it. Here are a few thoughts that came to mind.

You should try and find a better opening sentence. Right now, that sounds like the storm was an absolute snore-fest. Also, I'd avoid the term "a weak hurricane". Tell that to the people of the northeastern United States that they were only impacted by a weak Hurricane Irene.
"A cut-off cold-core low formed on July 5, quickly developing into a tropical depression as it tracked north-northwestward. " - the track map says it went north-northeastward.
"as it approached the coast of South Carolina. Early on July 9, Cindy made landfall near McClellanville, South Carolina" - watch for state redundancy. Try and find a way to avoid that.
" On July 11, the hurricane passed over Cape Cod" - it wasn't a hurricane then, though.
In the 2nd lede paragraph, you say the damage was minimal, and then you use a dash to describe the deaths. That format should be reserved if you are extrapolating on the damage, not when you're going into a different topic.
"Little other damage, if any, was caused by Cindy. In total, Cindy wrought $75,000 in damage." - try combining the sentences.
"The origins of Cindy can be attributed to a deepening low-pressure area that tracked from the Great Lakes as a related cold front traveled toward the southeast and became unmoving over the Atlantic, extending from northern Florida to Bermuda. " - whoa, long. Try shortening and making it simpler.
"With the break in the shortwave trough" - what break? When you use "the something", it implies something specific, but you'd never mentioned a break before.
"As an anticyclone intensified" - where was the anticyclone?
"observed maximum sustained winds of 52–56 knots" - avoid using knots.
What happened after it transitioned into an extratropical cyclone?
You should split the first paragraph of preps and impact. The first half is preparation based, and the second half appears to be overall impact. When you mention people evacuating, that should go with the preps portion.
"In Georgetown, South Carolina, a driver was killed while driving on U.S. Route 17 when a tree toppled onto their car.[11] In addition, the Sampit River topped its banks" - they don't seem related at all, so it was awkward to see "In addition"
"Tides were about 2.5 feet (0.76 m) above normal during Cindy" - where?
"only 600 of the normal population of about 6,500 endured the storm." - instead of endured (which could be ambiguous), I'd say something like "chose not to evacuate" or something.
"The Congaree River rose dramatically near Columbia during the hurricane, prompting the issuance of an emergency flood forecast,[8] where rainfall totaled 5.82 inches (148 mm);[15] however, some reliable unofficial sources state rainfall totaled to amounts near 15 inches (380 mm)" - you had already mentioned that last bit only a paragraph earlier in that intro impact paragraph. I suggest you remove it from one of these places. In fact, I would personally keep that first paragraph to be only preparations, and then move the impact into the sections.
Same with the people evacuating. That should all be together.
"A total of eleven tornadoes were reported in association with Cindy." - were all of them in South Carolina
"A tornado was observed near Nags Head near 1:40 pm local time on July 10, and a second was observed 25 minutes later." - that should be moved where you mention the rest of the tornado info
Here is some Canada impact that you should include. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:29, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

The Canada report indicates dissipation. As for the fracture, you might wanna ask User:Juliancolton or User:Cyclonebiskit. They've forgotten more about meteorology than I'll ever know. (same goes for User:thegreatdr, but he's usually busy during the week, I think). ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:01, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

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RFPP is the place to go for that, or go poke an admin, next time. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 21:37, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

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Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

Don't forget to remove the AFD tags and add the {{oldafdfull}} template to the talk pages of all of the articles when you close a combined AFD. ;) It's a pain in the ass, I know, I've been there.--v/r - T P 15:49, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. :) Where are my chips? :P HurricaneFan 25 15:51, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

{Old Afd full} tags

Hi Hurricanefan25. Thanks for taking on some non-admin closures of AfDs. I just wanted to alert you to a minor mistake you made in your talk-page taggings: I've corrected this one. Regards, Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 17:56, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

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I'm not the one who came up with the idea for the banner, I got it from User:Ezekiel 7:19. And by the way, I've been previously asked to remove this page, and other editors have stepped in and told me not to listen, which I don't. As one told me, "some userpages deserve to be deleted because they are just pompous crap, but there's nothing wrong with a secret page." I'm trying to bring humor and enlightenment to the editors of the encyclopedia, and what you're suggesting is not letting me do that. There's already a reply on the MfD page. Belugaboy^{cup of tea?} 21:39, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Yourname LTA

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RE:Your GA reviews

I am currently working on finishing my concerns over the 1906 Atlantic hurricane season. I've been busy lately trying to get an article of my own finished, but I've stopped to review your article. All in all, the mistakes are little, and it appears as if I will pass the article as soon as all the concerns I address are resolved. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 02:17, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Rollback

Howdy Hurricanefan25. Just a friendly reminder that the allowable uses of rollback don't cover this type of edit. Note that the other editors involved, Jeancey and SarekOfVulcan, used an explicit edit summary explaining why they were doing what they were doing. Cheers, 28bytes (talk) 18:30, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Acknowledged. "To revert obvious vandalism and other edits where the reason for reverting is absolutely clear" - I thought personal attacks were on the list of allowable uses, but obviously not. HurricaneFan 25 18:32, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. 28bytes (talk) 18:37, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Guestbook

Whack!

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Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

Why are you contesting Jimbo's own statement about guestbooks? I think you know by now that we have him to thank for Wikipedia, and hence, your own presence on this site. Monster! Bulldog73 ^talk da contribs _{go rando} 03:49, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

This one is for not even having the common courtesy of nominating the owner's of the pages you are nominating.--Adam in MO Talk 04:19, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

FYI, I didn't have the {{troutme}} template on the top right of my user page. Bulldog73 ^talk da contribs _{go rando} 04:24, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

The trout is for HF25 not you.--Adam in MO Talk 04:29, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Case closed. Nothing to see here ;) HurricaneFan 25 14:11, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

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Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

For guestbooks. Despite that, all best, you are great! :) --WhiteWriter ^speaks 16:28, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Office Hours again

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RfA nomination?

Hi. Thanks so much for the though, but, after thinking about it for some time, I decided that I don't want to go through the horrible RfA process, for now. Maybe one day; I always keep it in mind.

(I did reply on my user talk, yesterday, but I wanted to archive some older things from my talk page - hence, thought I'd reply here, too)

Thanks again; I really do appreciate the offer. Chzz ► 10:00, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

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Hi Hurricanefan25. I am User talk:Cyberpower678/SignatureStandard and I like your layout of your talk page. I wish to copy the grey border and modify it into my own for my own talk page. However, I do not want to steal or be accused of stealing. Which is why I am asking if I am allowed to copy it. Please send me a TB once you have a response.—cyberpower (Talk to Me)(Contributions) 23:14, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

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Hi Hurricane, about User:Hurricanefan25/Occupy. You suggest that an Occupy protest is notable "if there is any moderate a considerable number of arrests (shooting, rock-throwing, etc.) violence in the protest" / "has a considerable number of arrests". It is sad how a more or less 'peaceful' protest will only be noticed/get coverage if it is violent. - Benzband (talk) 18:33, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Ditto. Occupy Cal. I'm not involved in the Occupy articles anymore, but it's sad to know that the police resorted to pepper-spraying them. HurricaneFan 25 19:22, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Indeed it is. - Benzband (talk) 21:57, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

Accusation of personal attack

I strongly contest your accusation of personal attack. If you take a look at Future Perfect's userpage, he has the exact same infobox on his own userpage before I started hosting that infobox on my userpage, which I perceived to be a personal attack against me. I politely asked me to remove it, but he declined to do so. Please refrain from double standard.--NWA.Rep (talk) 22:18, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

You could say his userbox is done in a light tone; you, as the poster, seem to be attacking him with the userbox. HurricaneFan 25 22:42, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

You are certainly entitled to your opinion on my candidacy but I believe your voter guide should tell the whole story instead of the one-sided account of the whole incident with Gwen Gale (then a fellow candidate) and Future Perfect and their stalker-ish behavior. Thank you!--NWA.Rep (talk) 23:52, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

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Hey, why do you always leave so quickly on IRC? Stay a while, we don't bite! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:36, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Eh, no reason really. I just got off because I wanted to work on Kenneth. =P HurricaneFan 25 16:36, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

You can stay on and work on Kenneth at the same time, you know. There is a thing called tabs ;) --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:38, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Ah, but I use CZ... HurricaneFan 25 16:39, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Even better, so do I, and there are no issues when it comes to being on IRC and editing an article. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:40, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, but I can't switch between tabs; I have to clicky on the Firefox icon and hold it then click on the CZ window (I use a MacBook). I'll give it a try, though.

HurricaneFan 25 16:43, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Minimize the CZ window, and open a Firefox window. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 00:21, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) If you use a MacBook, I would recommend downloading Colloquy. Then, you can easily switch between Firefox and IRC. :-) —GFOLEY FOUR!— 21:26, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Voter guide

Please see my comments here as they also apply to your guide. Thanks, Roger Davies ^talk 21:20, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

A minor point in relation to your guide: you refer to Risker as "he", but I believe she's previously identified herself as female. I'm not sure if anyone else other than Panyd is female, but it might be worth checking. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:11, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

TMX/JXL - thanks!

Sorry I didn't spot that it was supposed to be a speedy deletion request (I don't normally do deletion requests). Thanks for doing so! Allens (talk) 17:41, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

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CCI request regarding User:Rosiestep

This request has been commented out for nearly a month and the WT:DYK thread it refers to has been archived. What news has there been on this front; should I close it as declined? MER-C 13:15, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't have any problem with it. Thanks! HurricaneFan 25 13:40, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

MQS

I think you meant 'not obligatory'. Peridon (talk) 21:50, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks for spotting that. I've fixed it as such. HurricaneFan 25 21:52, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

#9 and #10

I answered them. They were questions posed in good faith and deserving of answers. They simply needed more thought as I really try to avoid kneek-jerk responses. :) Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 00:49, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

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Voter guide

Hi Hurricanefan25. Just wondering if there was a reason you dropped the voter guide? Voting doesn't end until 10th December and there are many users who are unfamiliar with canidates who do read the voting guides and make their judgements based on that. How do I know? I did a couple of years ago! Worm^TT · (talk) 11:37, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi Hurricanefan25, I am curious too? I enjoyed reading your guide, and was sorry to see that you'd deleted it. --El on ka 15:00, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

He did suggest I could recreate it - but I felt it inappropriate as I'm a candidate. I suggested he asked the admin who deleted it, but I doubt he'd mind if you'd like to Elonka. Worm^TT · (talk) 15:11, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

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Chill out there...

Comments like the one you left in this edit summary are not appropriate - furthermore, you should not be removing unblock requests from user talk pages, although I will grant in this particular case you're more or less spot on. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:49, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

/me lies down on bed... HurricaneFan 25 00:50, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, just take a step back for a bit. You can't let them get to you. :-) Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 00:51, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Re:GAN

I have addressed many of the issues addressed in the Good Article Nomination. I disagreed with two of them, so I didn't change the whole sentence, but I did reword some. -- TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 17:04, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

I have also addressed your comments at Tropical Storm Arthur's GAN because I'm a nice guy (lol). -- TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 17:30, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

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GA reviews

Hi there, I had a look at your two reviews, and they look pretty good to me. You seem to be paying close attention to prose, which is good. I don't know anything about hurricanes and wouldn't have picked those to review, so I can only comment in a general way.

One thing I would say is try not to be too vague (eg. "there's a few rather terse sentences in the article. Try to fix those.") Try to be specific. If there are lots of terse sentences, then maybe just give a couple of examples. You made some good specific points after that though.
It's very easy to pick out things that could be improved that aren't actually part of the GA criteria. For example, in relation to the MOS, WP:WIAGA specifically mentions five points, but there is more flexibility on the other aspects of the MOS. I noticed you mentioned MOS:NBSP, which isn't covered by WP:WIAGA. That's not to say you shouldn't mention things like that, but they shouldn't be requirements. People want different things from a GA review. It is supposed to be a lightweight process, and some editors just want to make the improvements required. Others might intend to go to FAC eventually and are looking for as in-depth a review as you can come up with. Others aren't interested in FAC but might be happy to make non-required improvements anyway. My advice would be to make whatever suggestions you like, but make it clear which ones are required to pass the GA review, and which are just suggestions. There are aspects of the MOS for example that don't have total consensus and a nominator may have consciously decided not to follow part of it. I tend to mention things that fall outside WP:WIAGA, but I've noticed some reviewers basically dictating that nominators make certain changes that have nothing to do with GA, and that's probably quite irritating. So, it's all about balance! :) Also, be prepared for a nominator to argue with a point you make. The more familiar you are with the criteria, the more you know when something will make or break a review, and when things can be let go.
The same goes with prose suggestions. The GA criteria require an article to be clear and concise with correct spelling & grammar, basically to be reasonably well written. That's obviously a step down from the "brilliant" and "engaging" prose of FAC, so just be wary of making unnecessary demands. I'm not saying that because of what you put in those reviews, just as a general tip! :)
As your issues in those two review focus mainly on prose, it's hard to tell how thoroughly you reviewed the rest. As I go through, I always check for dead links and links to disambiguation pages. I do checks on sources to make sure they back up what they claim to. If I'm unfamiliar with any sources, I try to determine how reliable they are by checking them out myself. If it's not clear, I ask the nominator to explain what makes them reliable, or to replace them.
Copyright violations and plagiarism are big issues, so I always do spot checks of sources and google a few chunks of the text to see if any problems show up.

It looks like you're doing a good job though, so carry on! If you run into problems, don't be afraid to drop a note to WT:GAN asking for a second opinion. --Beloved Freak 22:41, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! HurricaneFan 25 22:49, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

IP speedy nominations

Hi there; I notice that you have nominated several IP talk-pages for speedy deletion as non-controversial maintenance clean-up. I will agree that a message to an IP editor can be a waste of time, at least in the case of dynamic IPs, but tagging the un-answered messges for deletion is not appropriate. --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 15:26, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

OK; if you are saying that all of the IP editors whom you have tagged are the same person, then I will concede that that point had escaped me. --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 15:33, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Right; point taken. Without asking for any detail at all, have you edited here before your fairly short time on this account? Please only answer if comfortable. --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 15:58, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

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2008 FLC

Just as a heads up, I have added the non-breaking spaces where you wanted them. -- TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 00:47, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

You missed a lot; I'll fix the rest. HurricaneFan 25 00:49, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

"I have added the non-breaking spaces where you wanted them" as specified on the FLC page. :) -- TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 00:52, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Hey, I was just wondering, what turns your text green/red when you copy and paste it? -- TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 02:34, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean? HurricaneFan 25 12:52, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

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Gay

Hey, I believe I got everything. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:55, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the review! :) --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 17:55, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

French sources

I posted on the French Wikiproject's talk page to see if someone could read the sources. The 3rd source might be reliable, I just said that I wasn't sure. SL93 (talk) 22:22, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

User talk:207.151.224.194

Close call. Can you leave a note for Denisarona? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 00:53, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

BTW, AGF is great of course, but I hope the IP will do something productive. Drmies (talk) 00:56, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Done. HurricaneFan 25 00:57, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. Drmies (talk) 01:01, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	ClueBot NG is still out of order, however you're doing a fantastic job reverting vandalism. Keep it up. -- Luke (Talk) 02:45, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! HurricaneFan 25 13:15, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

2011 Halloween nor'easter

I recently added that page to my (much smaller than most other users, from what I understand) watchlist, and as such I'd like to add the {{maintained}} template to the talk page. Since you and Hurricanehink have made almost as many edits, I feel it's only fair for you to be included on that template as well. Would that be OK with you? Daniel Case (talk) 15:40, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

OK, that's why I asked first. No problem. Daniel Case (talk) 15:44, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/16 June Movement

Hey there HF25, I wanted to talk about this non-admin closure. Non-admin closures are supposed to be clearly in favor of the keep !voters, so do you really think that this was a clear keep? I'd like to see your thoughts on this, before/in case I take it to DR. I really don't believe it should have been closed just yet, since we had only four editors comment, three deletes, two of which didn't really say anything policy-wise. NLinpublic (talk) 16:57, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

I've reverted. HurricaneFan 25 16:58, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Err, thanks I guess, although that wasn't what I was looking for. Just your actual thoughts on it. Anyway, carry on the good work. NLinpublic (talk) 17:04, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

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clarification request

[2] strikes me as ambiguous, as I can't tell whether you oppose any block, or the indefinite nature of the proposal. Because there's so much confusing verbiage, I'm suggesting it would be helpful to clarify the phrasing. I'm not disagreeing with your opinion at all, just saying it would help reach consensus if we understood it better. Gerardw (talk) 14:53, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Gerardw (talk) 15:20, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

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Re:GAN on hold

I'm sorry to blunt here and no offense, but why did you fail it if you agreed to give me to December 20 (nine days from today) and 2/3 of the comments have been addressed? Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 05:39, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

None taken; I thought I mentioned that there were still a ton of prose problems beside the ones I pointed out – I'll give the article some work later today. HurricaneFan 25 14:14, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

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Cesar-Douglas

Hurricane Cesar–Douglas was only renamed because of NHC policy at the time. These days it would just be Cesar, so on the C4 PH list you can not use it as an example of being renamed because it weakened into an RL.Jason Rees (talk) 02:49, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

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Copy-editing

Hello, in response to your copy-edit request, I'm wondering why you don't request somebody else like Hurricanehink or Malleus Fatuorum. They are much better editors than myself, although I am reading a book copy-editing at the moment and still learning the intricate art of writing.

I strongly recommend you ask someone else because that would perhaps present the best chance for the article's GA/FA plans, if there are any. I can only make a crap article readable, not a good article outstanding, so I beg you have that in mind. Thanks, and take care --Sp33dyphil ©^hat_ontributions 22:20, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Did you know...

...that you can add padding-left:6px;padding-right:6px to your second

element to make text not run to the very edge of your colored box? Just something to make your user talk page look nicer; feel free to ignore/add. ;) Reaper Eternal (talk) 15:32, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Meh, I thought I would have to use a separate CSS file for my TP to do that. Thanks. :P HurricaneFan 25 — 15:34, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Typhoon Nesat (2011)

"The system continued to weaken with convective banding loosely wrapped into the partially exposed LLCC." (2nd paragraph in the lead, 5th sentence.) Any idea what "LLCC" is? It's not Lincoln Land Community College! which LLCC re-directs to. - 220 of ^Borg 18:55, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

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Red "X" on your user page?

Hi, I'm a novice user on Wikipedia. This may just be a stupid question, but I was just wondering why your user page has a large Red "X" image superimposed on it, linking to SOPA#Opposition? Is this some form of vandalism?

Just Curious, Thanks! CDB-Man (talk) 07:30, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

It's not vandalism – I added it. You might have heard about how SOPA would basically defeat the purpose of Wikipedia; I believe it's mentioned in that section about how there was a straw poll on Jimbo Wales' talk page. HurricaneFan 25 — 15:41, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Ah, understood. And yes I've heard of SOPA. Now that you've reminded me of it, I'll spread the word to others I know. Thanks for the calrification! CDB-Man (talk) 05:00, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

You ok?

drop me a line if you fancy a chat. Worm^TT · (talk) 09:01, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Saw that too. Are you planning on giving up?—cyberpower (X-Mas Chat)(Contrib.) 11:06, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Replied there. HurricaneFan 25 — 15:40, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

RE: Came ashore

Ok, I see...It'd be helpful if you would come back on IRC though. – TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:52, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

IRC

Why do you always leave IRC so suddenly? —Bruvtakesover (talk!) 22:23, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

HurricaneFan 25 — 23:52, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Happy Festivus

Hey, do you think we should do something about JG and that IP address (like a check user)? Good luck with Dunn! --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:30, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Any advice on writing Dunn's article? HurricaneFan 25 — 23:52, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Nah, I'm not used to biography articles. Sorry, I have no idea where to find sourcing and stuff! If I had to guess, maybe the year he died there'd be some good info on him. --♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 04:56, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas, HF25, hope you've had a great day. :) —Bruvtakesover (talk!) 19:41, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I installed a new rain gauge from last year today (the old one broke in March). Same to you! HurricaneFan 25 — 19:59, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

Cool! :) —Bruvtakesover (talk!) 20:07, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

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User talk:86.133.99.161

I saw you reverted yourself here. You were actually right in the first place, and I have subsequently reverted you again. :) Calabe 1992 21:35, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

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your edit to my talk page

More trouble than it was worth

Kindly do not remove content from my talk page, as you did with this edit. It is not appreciated. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:05, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, what are you doing? You reverted that notice from everybody's talk page. What gives? --MuZemike 18:06, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Looks like mass vandalism to me. Suggest that you go back and revert all of those edits immediately. And why are you using two usernames User:Hurricanefan24 and User:Hurricanefan25? Jezhotwells (talk) 18:09, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

There was a red link in everyone's message (by error), though admittedly I should not have done that. :| HurricaneFan Alt ≈≈ (bad revert?) 18:11, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) While I don't know why he is removing the message either, and I'm as confused about that as you are, you will see that User:Hurricanefan24 states, "This is the main alternate account of Hurricanefan25 and is to be used to perform alternative tasks, such as vandal-fighting with Igloo or mass changes with AWB." I'll ask you to not inflame the situation further with charges of vandalism where there are none, and assume good faith. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 18:13, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

All reverted... as for using rollback, WP:RBK states that it can be used for reverting "widespread edits (by a misguided editor or malfunctioning bot)" which I believe was happening (as there was a red link)...error in my judgement. HurricaneFan 25 — 18:15, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

The red link is to the sub-page that editors create to list their progress. As the competition hasn't started it is a red link. Suggest that you discuss this with User:J Milburn if you think there is a mistake, rather than undertaking rash actions. I am leaving a note at User talk:J Milburn. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:17, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

No, it was supposed to lead to /2012/Submissions/, which exists, not /2012/Submissions/. HurricaneFan 25 — 18:18, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Redirecting /2012/Submissions/ to /2012/Submissions/ is a better fix. And please, reduce giant intro to this page (height of image: 328 px) Bulwersator (talk) 18:27, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, in this case it was impossible - than fixing edit rather reverting it is almost always better Bulwersator (talk) 18:29, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Ahhhh I get it, ok. I will worry when my talkpage gets as many views as Techno Viking :-) Yngvadottir (talk) 18:31, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I'm sorry, this was caused by a mistake on my part. Fixing the mistake or creating redirects would have also served to solve the problem, but there's no problem that HurricaneFan did it this way- I have just asked the bot to do it again for me, this time with the correct message. Thanks everyone, hopefully we can go without a hitch now! J Milburn (talk) 18:33, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

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Agreed, but I suggest to Jezhotwells to take back his comment. An error was made, and him reverted the edit is not mass vandalism. Y E ^Pacific ^Hurricane 18:34, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

With respect, can we save arguing about civility and shit (if that's what you're into) until after the problem here has been dealt with? HurricaneFan, why are you now reverting the pages back, when you know them to be wrong? I've just started the fucking bot again, it's sent a dozen messages, then I had to block it? I really have not got time to be on here right now. J Milburn (talk) 18:38, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

HurricaneFan, I'm sorry for the annoyance this is probably causing you, but have you now placed the message back on every page? If so, I can fix the link using AWB. J Milburn (talk) 18:45, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Ok, this should all be resolved now- everyone has one message with the correct link. Can I just say sorry to everyone involved- this was down to my clumsyness. HurricaneFan, I'm sorry for the back-and-forthing you've done, and thank you for your efforts; to everyone else, all edits were made in good faith, and I hope no one has been unduly upset or annoyed by this whole thing. J Milburn (talk) 19:04, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, I was a little confused when I saw my talkpage history, but this has cleared it all up. Rcsprinter (yak) 13:03, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Guidence

Looking though your initial attempts at Cyclone Joy, do you want some rough guidance on the SHEM from me? Jason Rees (talk) 19:42, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Ok then.

The seasonal summary contains information from TCWC Brisbane (BoM) and Nadi, who are the two official centres for that area, so i would use the formation date on pg 178 as your starting date for Joy over any BT files from either warning centre.
When a system crosses 160E between the Equator and 25S the primary warning responsibility transfers from Nadi to TCWC Brisbane (BoM) or visa versa below 25S its to Wellington.
Feel free to compare the windspeeds from Nadi/Brisbane to the Aus scale since they both use it and have applied it to systems going back through the ages.
The JTWC in this area just calls each system in this area TC's regardless of intensity and they dont use the SSHS.
Page 191 of the JTWC ATCR 1991 tells you when they initiated advisories and when they issued them.
Tropical low=Tropical Depression.
I have noticed a mistake on the 1990-91 SPAC which i will fix in a mo.
Thats all i can think of for now. feel free to question me if theres anything ive missed.Jason Rees (talk) 20:15, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Hmm; I thought the time they were designated as "tropical cyclones" by RSMC Nadi was when it reached "Category One" status on the Australian intensity scale... ? HurricaneFan 25 — 21:48, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

In the SPAC a tropical disturbance, a tropical low etc is a weak type of tropical cyclone like a tropical depression is in the ATL, but they only refer to them as tropical cyclones when they are eqiv to a tropical storm.Jason Rees (talk) 22:00, 31 December 2011 (UTC)