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Kai Twilfer

Thanks for the help. Can you sort out the info boxes on the bottom?--Achim Hering (talk) 22:09, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia: check out the Teahouse!

Hello! Firefly, you are invited to the Teahouse, a forum on Wikipedia for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, and get support from peers and experienced editors. Please join us! ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 08:27, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Seeking to understand your comments

Richard, I saw your request for deletion and the codes WP:GNG and WP:NCORP. I appreciate that you and other volunteers work to keep Wikipedia the great tool and work that it is. I hope to contribute a lot more to Wikipedia after this, my first work. In particular, I aim to do more articles to ensure that the significant current and historical institutions, traditions, and place of New England and New Hampshire are able to be studied and known by people who choose to learn about them. Regarding the WP:NCORP, I read the guideline and it says “The scope of this guideline covers all groups of people organized together for a purpose with the exception of non-profit educational institutions, religions or sects, and sports teams.” The article is about a non-profit educational instituion. Regarding the WP:GNG, the article is about an institution that source says has almost 3000 alumni. It is well known by most people in New Hampshire and many in neighbouring states. It has sporting (sailing) teams that compete in sailing regattas in the entire eastern United States and so is known in sailing circles in much of the United States. I have found television coverage that is viewed across New England in the period 2010-2017. I have found newspaper articles from multiple publications within New Hampshire and national sailing magazine. When I look at many other Wikipedia articles, they seem to be perhaps less notable. “Notable” seems sometimes to equate to “urban” by virtue of the population of urban centers generating more media volume. However, when viewed on a per capita basis, some state-level insitutions in places like New Hampshire, Maine, Vermont, Delaware, North Dakota, Wyoming, Rhode Island, etc. I believe that rural institutions also deserve to be treated as notable or the world becomes one in which homogenization of culture and history around urban defintions and examples is the rule. Please therefore help me put this article into shape so that I can learn and improve things in my efforts going forward. - Alf Alphakilohotel (talk) 21:41, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Alf, firstly, to reassure you - Wikipedia does not (or certainly should not) treat rural organisations differently than urban ones. Nor do I doubt that the organisation in question here is well known among recreational sailors throughout the United States. That said, however, it is the existence of significant independent coverage that determines whether an article is notable (and therefore appropriate for a Wikipedia article). The sources in the article don't - to my eyes - meet this bar. For example: the website of the organisation isn't independent, and therefore isn't suitable, this source doesn't appear to mention the organisation at all, and the others simply attest to the organisation's existence. However, I am far from an expert in sailing, and I would recommend asking at the Sailing WikiProject for assistance in finding reliable, independent sources. The Teahouse may also be able to offer general assistance. Furthermore and in the interest of full disclosure, the deletion template I placed can be removed from the article by anyone (including you, the creator). That said, if the article isn't improved to meet Wikipedia guidelines, it may well be listed at articles for deletion for a full deletion debate. I hope this clears up some of your concerns - if you have any more questions please do ask. Richard ⁰⁶¹² 22:03, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Invitation to the Portals WikiProject...

You are invited to join the effort to revitalize and improve the Portal system.

The Portals WikiProject was rebooted on April 17th, and is going strong. Sixty-six editors have joined so far, with more joining daily. We're having a blast, and excitement is high...

Our goal is to update, upgrade, and maintain portals.

In addition to working directly on portals, we are developing tools to make portals more dynamic (self-updating), and to make building and maintaining portals easier. We've finished two tools so far, with more to come. They are Template:Transclude lead excerpt and Template:Transclude random excerpt.

Discussions are underway about how to further upgrade portals, and what the portals of the future will be.

There are plenty of tasks (including WikiGnome tasks too).

With more to come.

We may even surprise ourselves and exceed all expectations. Who knows what we will be able to accomplish in what may become the biggest Wikicollaboration in years.

See ya at the WikiProject!

Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 06:49, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

May 2018

Richard, you restored this content to the Barisan Nasional, and warned the new user Legendary Autism for removing it. Stating that the party's ideology is kleptocracy, corruption and cronyism was obviously vandalism to begin with, and certainly wasn't supported by the sources. Legendary Autism did quite right to remove it, though, being a new user, they failed to understand they should have left the sources, and should have reverted to an earlier version, which somebody else has now done. Did you actually look at the stuff you restored? Bishonen | talk 17:05, 11 May 2018 (UTC).

How embarrassing. You are quite right - I obviously didn't look closely enough at the text! I can't explain how I didn't notice that the wording was blatant vandalism, I expect that I was operating too far on auto-pilot. I have apologised to the user in question, and this shall serve as an object lesson to me - fully investigate edits before taking any action; don't click buttons before you're sure of what is going on. Richard ⁰⁶¹² 13:18, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

That's great, Richard. Thanks for the gracious answer! I do see you do a lot of useful stuff around the place; I guess you may simply have been going a bit fast on this occasion. Bishonen | talk 14:37, 12 May 2018 (UTC).

Foreign language source

Since you helped with the Teahouse Talkback template, I need to know how to label a source that is not English. I found nothing under the citation templates that helped with this. Under Toy Symphony I saw a source that appears to be German. The reference needed fixing anyway so I tried fixing the language when I was there, but it didn't show up.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:23, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

And I went back to it when I found the advice about what to do. It turns out the English translation is there too.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:49, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm glad you managed to find an English language version of the source - foreign language sources are acceptable on Wikipedia, but only if no English sources can be found to support a claim in an article. If you do use a foreign-language source, add the |language= parameter to the cite template, putting the language code as the parameter value. Richard ⁰⁶¹² 20:14, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

I didn't find the source myself, but I was only fixing a reference that wasn't formatted right. Thanks.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:04, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

@Vchimpanzee: you're most welcome! Richard ⁰⁶¹² 07:44, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Welcome back

Hey! Welcome back. Shall I dust off that bot trial you requested? - Jarry1250 ^{[Vacation needed]} 16:58, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

@Jarry1250: Hi! I'd completely forgotten about that - if the process is still needed I'll happily take it on, sure. I certainly plan to get back to bot work (and re-join BAG if a reconfirmation request passes, given the backlog!). Richard ⁰⁶¹² 17:02, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

I have no idea! But I'm sure you'd be welcomed back with open arms. - Jarry1250 ^{[Vacation needed]} 17:19, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

I will check on both counts on the relevant talk pages! :) Richard ⁰⁶¹² 17:21, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	Thanks for building the new LintError reporter! — xaosflux ^Talk 02:52, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: Thank you! :) Richard ⁰⁶¹² 07:44, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Cool name

I like your new username! Bishonen | talk 07:44, 25 May 2018 (UTC).

@Bishonen: Hehe thank you! ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 09:09, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you very much

The RfC discussion to eliminate portals was closed May 12, with the statement "There exists a strong consensus against deleting or even deprecating portals at this time." This was made possible because you and others came to the rescue. Thank you for speaking up.

By the way, the current issue of the Signpost features an article with interviews about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

I'd also like to let you know that the Portals WikiProject is working hard to make sure your support of portals was not in vain. Toward that end, we have been working diligently to innovate portals, while building, updating, upgrading, and maintaining them. The project has grown to 80 members so far, and has become a beehive of activity.

Our two main goals at this time are to automate portals (in terms of refreshing, rotating, and selecting content), and to develop a one-page model in order to make obsolete and eliminate most of the 150,000 subpages from the portal namespace by migrating their functions to the portal base pages, using technologies such as selective transclusion. Please feel free to join in on any of the many threads of development at the WikiProject's talk page, or just stop by to see how we are doing. If you have any questions about portals or portal development, that is the best place to ask them.

If you would like to keep abreast of developments on portals, keep in mind that the project's members receive updates on their talk pages. The updates are also posted here, for your convenience.

Again, we can't thank you enough for your support of portals, and we hope to make you proud of your decision. Sincerely, — The Transhumanist 23:27, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

P.S.: if you reply to this message, please {{ping}} me. Thank you. -TT

Bit Bucket

Good idea in that case. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:44, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Draft:BANAN

Hi. I declined your CSD request for Draft:BANAN; you nominated it for speedy deletion under the criteria of WP:CSD#G1, but that is for incomprehensible text or gibberish only, and the text written on the draft page is coherent. If you still believe it should be deleted, please select a more appropriate category. If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a note on my talk page. Stephen! ^Coming... 11:33, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

@Sjb72: That's fair enough - I did consider that, but criteria #2 of WP:NONSENSE, which G1 references states "Content that, while apparently intended to mean something, is so confusing that no reasonable person can be expected to make any sense of it. See word salad.". I thought that would apply given the content of the page is (just) textually coherent, but utterly devoid of any sense whatsoever. Noted for the future in any case. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 12:04, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

HasteurBot's G13 code

You can find the repo that I've gotten back in sync at https://github.com/hasteur/g13bot_tools_new. All I ask is that the credit for the work remains. CC @Headbomb: Hasteur (talk) 02:37, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

@Hasteur: Of course, I will fork the repo and ensure that your credit remains on it and all files. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 13:26, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

I had a thought, reading through the fustercluck on your current BRFA (which I totally appreciate you doing, btw), but do you think it would be possible to put in a second BRFA for the "notify creators of the soon-to-be-G13-eligible pages" task? They can bitch and moan about the relevant or applicability of the tag itself, but I think the notification is much more vital (especially from a "now people know" perspective), as well as less controversial. Thanks for picking this whole thing up! Primefac (talk) 11:54, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

@Primefac: Good idea, I'll do that. At least that'll get the least controversial part of the task back up and running. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 16:49, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Erneshea

G3/A7 - In isolation you're right, in the context of the author's behaviour, pasting the same nonsense all over the wiki, it's vandalism. Cabayi (talk) 18:54, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

@Cabayi: Hmm, I see what you mean! It can go under both, but you're probably right that G3 should be the primary criterion. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 18:55, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Split note

I have noted to the talk page of Windows XP a split of the Windows XP development stuff. I attempted my best to add the Template:Split article template, but I wasn't quite sure how to implement it to the talk page. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 22:49, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

@Qwertyxp2000: Thanks, I completely forgot about that! I've added it to the Development of Windows XP article too. Looks like you invoked the template properly to me. :) ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 22:55, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome. And thanks for telling that I did the Template:Split article correctly! :) Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 22:57, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Vital article counts

Thanks for your work with developing a bot to count the number of vital articles in each section. I noticed that the bot does not count articles with no assessment icons on the list, nor does it add WikiProject assessment icons. See South Korean newspapers or canals for example. Can this be fixed? If not, that's fine as well, just that editors would have to add the icons manually to ensure that the articles are counted. feminist (talk) 05:02, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

@Feminist: Hmmm it doesn't do that at the moment as it looks for the {{icon}} templates to help it work out what's an article and what isn't. For the moment, editors should manually add the template (it can be blank or unassessed), but I'll definitely look into fixing that. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 07:45, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Good, I'll add them manually for now. I assume it's OK to leave it blank for the bot to assess? feminist (talk) 08:02, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Yep, you can leave it blank and the run tonight will stick the assessment param in. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 08:06, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Your bot keeps changing the Vital Articles count to be off by 1. [1] Rreagan007 (talk) 00:19, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

@Rreagan007: Interesting, thanks for letting me know - I've shut the task off until I can figure out what's going on. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 00:25, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

@Rreagan007: I've fixed the bug, the bot won't make that mistake again. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 01:01, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, the bot doesn't seem to update the counts on Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Arts. feminist (talk) 16:41, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

@Feminist: Will have a look. Thanks! ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 17:52, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

@Feminist: Fixed, it'll update them shortly. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 23:23, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Camden Highline

Hello Firefly. I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Camden Highline, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The creator moved the article to a user page by mistake, I think. I have moved the article to article space and removed the speedy. Thank you. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:29, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

@Eastmain: I realise that the user probably moved it there by mistake, but I'm not sure it belongs in mainspace. A draft of a substantially similar article has been rejected by AfC twice on the grounds that it's just a proposal that isn't notable before it actually exists (or, indeed, is even given the go-ahead). On that basis I thought that there was little point in keeping another draft of the same thing (with fewer sources than the AfC draft). ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 07:54, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Stop

Stop spreading misinformation and fake news on wikipedia

DavidStonePolitics (talk) 17:19, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

@DavidStonePolitics: On Wikipedia, all information about living people, particularly contentious information, must be supported by reliable sources. The three sources given for the political leaning of Anne Marie Waters all agree that her views are far-right. Please do not change this without citing multiple sources for the change. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 17:23, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Lies

They are from Soros funded Fake News sources DavidStonePolitics (talk) 17:33, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

@DavidStonePolitics: not according to our guide on reliable sources. That said, if you do want to discuss the merits of the sources, please open a discussion on the article's talk page. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 17:36, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

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Korean language

The edit you did a rollback on has been edited again by the same IP; looks like they have started an edit war. ImprovedWikiImprovment (talk) 23:59, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

@ImprovedWikiImprovment: Which edit was that? ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 08:14, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

We just resolved the problem; don’t worry about it.ImprovedWikiImprovment (talk) 16:29, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Windows XP

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Your GA nomination of Windows XP

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Your GA nomination of Windows XP

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Draft:Greenwich_Music_School

Thanks for reviewing this. There's an article about the organisation at [2] and an article about one of the organisation's courses (London Conducting Academy) at [3]- should these be counted as multiple independent sources? Wiki-edit-3457 (talk) 14:02, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

@Wiki-edit-3457: They're not fantastic sources, as the first is a press release and the second just barely mentions the organisation, rather than discussing it in depth. I doubt they'd be enough to support an article on their own. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 09:11, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Your BRFA

Your recent BRFA (Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Bot0612 11) has been approved. Happy editing, — xaosflux ^Talk 23:28, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

ADvantage Framework PROD

Hi, I removed prod, because this article was proded/deproded back in 2012. Feel free to use AfD instead. Pavlor (talk) 09:11, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Issue with incorrect total counts for Vital Level-5

Thanks for the bot! Unfortunately, I noticed it is not updating the counts for Wikipedia:Vital_articles/Level/5/People/Artists,_musicians,_and_composers correctly, mainly the top levels. I have updated some of the counts manually now and have glanced at the python code. I don't know if this is an issue for other files. I'll try looking at the code later, but maybe you know the answer already. StrayBolt (talk) 01:27, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

@StrayBolt: Thanks, I'll have a look into this. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 11:52, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Bot misses some Icon ratings

In [4], the bot fails to update every {{Icon}} that doesn't have value set. It'll update {{Icon|B}}→{{Icon|GA}}, but it won't update {{Icon}}→{{Icon|GA}}.

Also, the bot should use GA/FA, not Ga/Fa. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 01:05, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

@Headbomb: Thanks, I'll fix this. ƒirefly ( t · c · who? ) 11:59, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

BAGBot: Your bot request Bot0612 10

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Firefly Linter page not updating?

If you are the Firefly who maintains the Linter count page, I am letting you know that it has not updated for a couple of days. When I reload it, it says "As of 2018-10-04 17:37:53" (I don't know what time zone it uses). Thanks for checking, and thanks for the tool. I have been using it to measure my progress in fixing Linter errors. – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:13, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Echoing Jonesey95, if there is anything you can do to get Outstanding linter errors on enwiki working again, it would be much appreciated by those of us working to fix lint errors. —Anomalocaris (talk) 08:29, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

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Archeophone Records

I'm puzzled why someone with your experience would enter unsourced information into Archeophone Records. Was this a simple mistake?
Vmavanti (talk) 19:26, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Bot not updating some vital article pages

Hi Firefly, your bot does not update certain vital article pages despite edits to them, e.g. Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/People/Religious figures and Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/5/Technology. feminist (talk) 03:29, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

Is anyone here? feminist (talk) 07:19, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

I've noticed the same problem. It seems like there's no one here. @Feminist: where should we go to try to get the bot fixed? - Sdkb (talk) 11:52, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

WP:BTR. feminist (talk) 07:11, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of File:Vandalism breakdown.PNG

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Firefly Linter page 404 after Tools outage

https://tools.wmflabs.org/fireflytools/linter/enwiki is 404. It appears to have gone missing during the Tools outage, and it hasn't come back. Is it possible for you or someone else to give it a kick? – Jonesey95 (talk) 07:24, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Pinging Adithyak1997, who is listed as a co-maintainer. – Jonesey95 (talk) 08:45, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: It was a migration done from my side that led to the error. It's the migration of Misty to Stretch. I have stated my problem in phab(link). I don't actually know how to proceed.Adithyak1997 (talk) 17:23, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: Please check now.Adithyak1997 (talk) 19:03, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Looks great! Thanks for getting it working. Looks like it was non-trivial. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:33, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Your Toollabs WHOIS tool

Hello, I was browsing through the Shared IP templates and noticed your WHOIS tool located here is down; are you still actively maintaining it? Kb03 (talk) 21:12, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

New Linter error: Special:LintErrors/wikilink-in-extlink

There is a new Linter error: Special:LintErrors/wikilink-in-extlink. Can it be added to the Linter error tracking table? Thanks! Pinging Adithyak1997. – Jonesey95 (talk) 07:37, 10 March 2019 (UTC) Let me give it a try.Adithyak1997 (talk) 09:53, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Please participate to the talk pages consultation

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Broken bot?

Hi Firely! It appears a bot you operate, Bot0612, may not be working to update symbols for vital articles. See, for instance, that Google Maps has not had its symbol updated, despite being listed as VA5 for a while. There's also no VA notice on the talk page of the article, which is another thing that I thought a bot was supposed to be handling. Do you know what's going on here? - Sdkb (talk) 18:42, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Your access to AWB may be temporarily removed

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Linter table has not updated in a day or so

https://tools.wmflabs.org/fireflytools/linter/enwiki has not done its hourly update since yesterday. Something might need to be restarted. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:50, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Wiki~enbot

I'm guessing it's not your bot? I've blocked it since it is not supposed to edit mainspace without a BRFA, but it's impersonating your bot Bot0612 for some reason, if not yours, good to go, just information. --qedk (t 心 c) 14:45, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Linter table is 404

I don't know if you will see this, but https://fireflytools.toolforge.org/linter/enwiki is giving a 404 not found error today. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:53, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Hover title

Template:Hover title has been nominated for merging with Template:Tooltip. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 00:20, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

about John J. Ensminger page

Some serious accusations were posted by user Justlettersandnumbers. I attempted to remove these but Justlettersandnumbers immediately reposted them. Mr. Ensminger is a highly respected lawyer and emailed me immediately with a request to take his page down rather than have these accusations at the beginning of his web page. Thus I did as he requested. Hopefully something can be done about this as his page has been up for around ten years without any problem but at this time those accusations need to be removed.King.parker3 (talk) 17:44, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

@King.parker3: if you believe there is truly libelous material on a Wikipedia page, please follow the instructions here to contact the Wikimedia Foundation. I would also like to take this opportunity to make you aware, if you are not already, about Wikipedia's policy on conflicts of interest. Editors with a COI, as you appear to, must disclose that fact publicly. Thanks. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 17:51, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Book reviews

Hi! I saw your note about book sourcing and put together a quick little guide to judging whether or not a review is usable to establish notability. I hope this helps some! ReaderofthePack(formerly Tokyogirl79) (｡◕‿◕｡) 05:38, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

@ReaderofthePack: thanks, that's really useful! :) ƒirefly ( t · c ) 08:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: User:Tholden28/sandbox

Hello Firefly. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User:Tholden28/sandbox, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Experienced user, they seem to be using their sandbox to do exactly what sandboxes are for: draft Wikipedia content. Thank you. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 18:21, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Thank you for reverting vandalism on my talk page. This is to let you know that I appreciate it very much. Ashley yoursmile! 09:28, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ashleyyoursmile: why thank you! You are most welcome :) ƒirefly ( t · c ) 09:29, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		thanks for keeping wiki factual and vandal-free! Alibino (talk) 14:36, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

@Alibino: thank you very much! Happy to help. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 14:39, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

resubmitted my Draft

Hello FireFly, you recently turned down my draft and I hope to have rectified it. Draft:Motion_RC. Using the Wiki materials and comparable companies own wiki pages like Horizon Hobby & HobbyKing I believe I have removed any wording in which it would read like an advertisement. Again, I started editing a few Radio-controlled aircraft like pages and was surprised this company wasn't able to be linked to like others. Burlman54 (talk) 23:01, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello! Thanks for improving the draft. I can't promise to re-review it, as it's probably best that a different reviewer looks at it with fresh eyes, but someone will get to it. There is a backlog unfortunately, but rest assured AfC will get to everything eventually. Thanks! ƒirefly ( t · c ) 10:05, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Burlman54: - see above, apologies, forgot to ping. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 10:06, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@FireFly:, Thanks for the quick response. Much appreciated. Burlman54 (talk) 13:41, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Shannon Global Energy Solutions article

Thank you, firefly, for reviewing my latest version of an article for Shannon Global Energy Solutions. I've been working on this for several months, including with other Wikipedia editors, so I'd very much appreciate your recommendations and/or advice as to how I might get the piece into a shape that merits publication. If I may ask and you have time to reply, what specifically did you find that could be improved upon? I'm happy to keep working on it. Thank you very much. Lakewood66 (talk) 20:56, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Rollback

Here.

Best to leave a summary, no? I mean, I agree, I probably would have at least suggested to it's author to remove such inappropriate grave-dancing, but rollback without a summary should only be used for obvious vandalism. @Hemiauchenia: Since we talking about you, I hope my point is clear. See Wikipedia:Gravedancing. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 21:41, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@Hemiauchenia and RandomCanadian: - apologies, was just leaving a message on Hemiauchenia‘s talk page, but may as well do it here now. This revert was entirely unintentional, I must have mis-clicked when browsing. Sincere apologies to you both. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 21:44, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

@RandomCanadian: It wasn't gravedancing, I just wanted to give an update on the situation. Hemiauchenia (talk) 21:46, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

I guess because you were also mistakenly blocked by the arbitration committee that you might feel differently on this issue. Hemiauchenia (talk) 21:47, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Bot Messages About Old Drafts

I have just started receiving messages again from User:FireflyBot about drafts that I may have moved five months ago. I was previously receiving similar messages from a different bot, but I think the bot had to be retired from service when the bot author tragically died from coronavirus. So my question is simply: Did you just start operating the bot to give users notice that their drafts have been inactive for five months? If so, okay. I will ignore the messages unless you tell me of a way to turn them off. These seem to be drafts that I moved/renamed in the AFC review process, and I am not the real author of the drafts and have little interest in being told that they are about to go away.

However, thank you for managing a bot that provides a slightly useful service. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:18, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: Hello! I've taken over the task - as you say, giving users a heads-up about G13 - but using my own code, for what it's worth. I am entirely happy to exclude you from notifications if they serve no purpose. :) ƒirefly ( t · c ) 18:29, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

If your bot has an exclude list of people who don't want the notifications, I don't want them. I move (rename) a lot of drafts, and, as a result, I may appear to be the author of the drafts. If I actually create a draft, I will usually deal with it in less than five months. So if you can put me on an exclude list, thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:12, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: this is now

Done. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 14:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. You may get similar requests from other AFC reviewers, or they may just ignore these reminders. I move a lot of drafts in the process of reviewing them, which makes me be seen as a creator of the drafts, but I have very little interest in whether they go into the G13 bit bucket. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:34, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: that's entirely fine, I'll happily exclude anyone from notifications if they do not want them. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 16:36, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

You've got mail!

Hello, Firefly. Please check your email; you've got mail!
Message added 10:28, 1 March 2021 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

Pahunkat (talk) 10:28, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@Pahunkat: replied! ƒirefly ( t · c ) 10:32, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Firefly, replied to you again - thanks :-) Pahunkat (talk) 12:04, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft:ICT4Health

Hey there, Firefly 🔥

Any idea what gives with this draft? Surely it's an educational project or something similar as it's been edited by 20 + new editors. 220 of ^ßorg 12:43, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@220 of Borg: yes I noticed that - strange. No idea as to what is actually going on, but an educational project could very well be it. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 12:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Seems very likely, User:StrawmanParagons' userpage says: "I created this account for a Class Wikipedia Article" 220 of ^ßorg 13:45, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

@220 of Borg: fair. Ah well, it's not getting accepted but it's doing little harm. Eventually it'll get G13'd when the project is over. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 14:45, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Drafts on external website

Hi Firefly, Thanks for letting me know that Draft:Lucina Kathmann will be deleted. I'm wondering why it has been taken to https://w-i-k-i-t-i-a.com/wiki/Lucina_Kathmann--just being curious. 1001Bookworm (talk)

@1001Bookworm: I can’t access that site - I get a DNS resolution error. Even if I could however, Wikipedia has no control over external sites, there are lots of sites that blindly mirror Wikipedia content (even drafts!) automatically. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 21:17, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Firefly 🔥 Thanks for your prompt response. I hyphenated the word "w-i-k-i-t-i-a" between the letters. otherwise, the page didn't allow me to post my message. 1001Bookworm (talk)

@1001Bookworm: Ah I see - yes it seems that site sources content from Wikipedia. It’s not associated with Wikipedia or the WMF. Odd, but ultimately not our problem! ƒirefly ( t · c ) 21:29, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Firefly 🔥 Thanks for checking. I’ve done a few entries for Wikipedia, which aren’t at w-i-k-i-t-i-a but this one even it’s just a draft. I’ve heard that someone at w-i-k-i-t-i-a steals some articles from Wikipedia to sell them for money. Can you guys from Wikipedia ask this draft to be removed at w-i-k-i-t-i-a ? I’ve volunteered for Wikipedia and don’t want my copyright to be violated. Your time and attention are very much appreciated. 1001Bookworm (talk)

@1001Bookworm: ‘your copyright’ isn’t being violated by someone copying content you have submitted to Wikipedia for use elsewhere, as all contributors to Wikipedia agree to release their contributions under the CC BY-SA 3.0 and GFDL licenses (see WP:REUSE). As long as Wikitia uses compatible licenses for its content, it is free to reuse text from Wikipedia. They appear to use CC BY-SA, so that appears to be fine. Even if they didn’t do this correctly, that would ultimately be for the WMF’s lawyers to deal with if they chose to do so. We (as in Wikipedia volunteer contributors) have no power to do anything whatsoever in relation to external sites unfortunately. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 22:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Firefly 🔥 Thanks so much for your explanation and info. I’ve just learned a little bit about CC-BY-SA. According to CC-BY-SA. “An example notice, for an article that uses the Wikipedia article Metasyntactic variable under CC-BY-SA, might read as follows:

″This article uses material from the Wikipedia article <a href="https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Metasyntactic_variable">"Metasyntactic_variable"</a>, which is released under the <a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/">Creative Commons Attribution-Share-Alike License 3.0</a>.″

I think w-i-k-i-t-i-a should at least let Wikipedia know or acknowledge that they copy the article from Wikipedia. When I looked at “Review History” on the w-i-k-i-t-i-a page, it says "curprev 19:38, 31 August 2020‎ NicoleOgoff talk contribs‎." It shows that NicoleOgoff “Created page”. I just hope you could tell your supervisor about this incident.

Thanks again!

1001Bookworm (talk)

@1001Bookworm: I don't have a supervisor - I do not work for the WMF in any capacity. I am like you, a volunteer Wikipedia contributor. You're right that they should have a statement of the kind detailed on WP:REUSE, but as I said there is no way for we volunteers to enforce this. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 11:44, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

@Firefly 🔥 Thanks for letting me know. 1001Bookworm (talk)

Rewording of FireflyBot message

Hi, I wanted to suggest a change to the automated message generated by the FireflyBot which notifies users that an article they created in draft space is about to be deleted. Right now the bot announces "I just wanted to let you know that..." which to me sounds like it is a message generated by a person, which it isn't. Would you consider changing it to say something like, "This is an automated message generated by a bot to notify you that...."? Thank you for considering the request. A loose necktie (talk) 12:56, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

@A loose necktie:

Done - I've updated the message to clarify that it's being delivered by a bot. For what it's worth, I don't really have a strong opinion on this, given that the bot's talk page links here, so any questions will be directed to me - however changing it can't do any harm. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 14:07, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Drag Race ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. ≫ Lil-Unique1 -{ Talk }- 18:54, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hi, Firefly,

Thank you so much for Firefly Bot, it's doing exactly what I had hoped for and stepping into the void left by Hasteur Bot last July. I wish I had made my Bot Request months ago!

I can't make a direct connection but I look at the daily G13 list and it's gone from about 200+ drafts a day to around 150 drafts a day which I think is due to messages left for draft creators alerting them to the fact that their drafts are going stale. Since the goal here is not to delete lots of old drafts but to get more drafts into better shape to be submitted to AFC, I think this is a win-win for everyone. Reminding editors of drafts they might have forgotten about means fewer drafts deleted, fewer requests for admins at WP:REFUND to restore deleted drafts and, hopefully, more quality articles. Thanks again for stepping up and creating this bot. It has made things better on the project. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:16, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

@Liz: I'm glad it's proving useful and reducing the backlogs at CAT:G13 and REFUND - ultimately that's what bots should do, make life easier for humans. :) ƒirefly ( t · c ) 11:08, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Pending changes reviewer granted

Hello. Your account has been granted the "pending changes reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on pages protected by pending changes. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges, while the list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on is located at Special:StablePages.

Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.

See also:

Wikipedia:Reviewing pending changes, the guideline on reviewing
Wikipedia:Pending changes, the summary of the use of pending changes
Wikipedia:Protection policy#Pending changes protection, the policy determining which pages can be given pending changes protection by administrators.

Anarchyte (talk • work) 11:15, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

@Anarchyte: thanks for the swift grant! ƒirefly ( t · c ) 11:17, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:Firefly/Userbox Archive/User 911truth

User:Firefly/Userbox Archive/User 911truth, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Firefly/Userbox Archive/User 911truth and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Firefly/Userbox Archive/User 911truth during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. βӪᑸᙥӴ • Talk • Contribs 21:06, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

ACC tool access request approved

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nobots

Can you implement {{nobots}} recognition for Fireflybot please. I'm retired and could do without notification. Also in an ideal world, Kojo Shaddy would have received the notification instead, but i can see and understand the constraints with identifying that. Zindor (talk) 10:50, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

@Zindor: Apologies - it did have {{nobots}} checks, but clearly a recent update broke the check for it. Now fixed, thanks for the bug report. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 12:16, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it. Zindor (talk) 12:25, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Notification of Dispute Resolution

Please note I have now taken the discussion at RuPaul's Drag Race UK (series 2) to Dispute resolution. Spa-Franks (talk) 01:04, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Page changes

You gave me some help at the village pump earlier [5]. Is there any way I could filter this SQL query to include only articles with the Company infobox? Megabot (talk) 17:41, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

@Megabot and Sam at Megaputer: I believe so, with the templatelinks table, I'll have a look. ƒirefly ( t · c )

Thanks. I'm just going to roll this thing into beta already since it's been collecting dust for too long. This change can be rolled out after release. Sam at Megaputer (talk) 13:22, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

Deletion of my draft

So you recently notified me that my draft, Draft:Ghang Lhamo, hadn't been edited in five months and was going to be deleted soon, but the problem is, I'm still waiting for someone to review it like my other drafts. I genuinely don't really know what to do in this case so could you help me? ~~Omir Laa~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omir Laa (talk • contribs) 04:09, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

@Omir Laa: If you edit the draft in any way, the CSD G13 'countdown' will be reset. You don't need to make any substantive improvements, any edit will do. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 13:10, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

You don't seem to understand, I don't want to edit the draft, I want to submit it for review.

~~Omir Laa~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omir Laa (talk • contribs) 14:29, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

To submit a draft for review, you need to add the {{AFC submission}} template to it - without this template it won't go into the AfC review queue and nobody will know it needs reviewing. I've added the template for you, so it's now in the queue. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 14:35, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Yudhishthira (Huna king) reply

Please do search for Yudhishthira (Huna king) on the internet and you will find a existing Wikipedia article on the subject. I created it because I was impatient. That was because the Draft had been declined. I was kinda inexperienced on Wikipedia, even though I had created some 5 articles by that time. I couldn't wait for some Wikipedia user to review it, so I didn't edit it. Instead, I created a separate article on the subject which did not include the problems the draft did. So I have deleted all the text in the draft now when I received your message. But I am experienced now and I don't make such silly mistakes anymore.

User : Tulika and Satvik (talk)

@Tulika and Satvik: That's fine - if you want the draft to be deleted you can add {{db-g7}} to it and an administrator will delete it. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 14:36, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Copyright Cleanup Barnstar
		Thank you for helping out at CCI. Keep up the great work :) MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:39, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

@MrLinkinPark333: thank you kindly! :) I certainly intend to! ƒirefly ( t · c ) 20:39, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Draft deletion notice received

~~I am writing in for a clarification about the message I received on 02:05, 29 March 2021 (UTC) from the User @Fireflybot~~

I submitted my article for submission around five months back and it was showing as pending for review since then. In the mean while the number of total drafts in queue for review kept going up. I just received a response to my draft by User @Kashmorwiki dated 04:55, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

~~My question was that will the deadline for auto deletion of the draft be counted from the date of submission of the draft or from the time when the first review of the draft was received?~~

Ksonrexa (talk) 14:02, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Please ignore the message above. I have resolved this at my end.

Ksonrexa (talk) 14:12, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Deletion review for Kalman Sultanik

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Kalman Sultanik. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.

Hi Firefly, the page has been revised in accordance with earlier concerns. Much appreciation if you could review again. Thank you.

@Sareneras: there's no need for a deletion review as the page hasn't actually been deleted yet - it's listed here at Copyright Problems. Best to mention there that you've rewritten the article. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 06:28, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

@Firefly:Thank you, I've now done so. What further steps are necessary? Sareneras (talk) 11:01, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

@Sareneras: Sorry for the delay - I see you've responded at WP:CP. You now just need to wait for an administrator to have a look at the page, and (if appropriate - I've not looked at the page myself), move it into place. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 10:33, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

The Copyright Inquisitor's Sword

	The Copy-Warden
	This English arming sword is presented to firefly for his efforts at Copypatrol, shutting down, investigating, and prosecuting copyright problems. Please accept this extension of your arm, and wield it in the name of the Encyclopedia against copyright problems and their authors. ♠Vami _IV†♠ 11:04, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

@Vami IV: Thank you! I shall wield it with pride! ƒirefly ( t · c ) 12:34, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Request to Add Task to User:FireflyBot

I have replied to you at Village Pump Technical to say that the operator of the bot that isn't doing my task didn't response, so, as we discussed, I am requesting that you add it to your bot if possible. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:56, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Discontent Content Issue 1

Discontent Content Issue #1

Welcome, subscribers, to the inaugural Discontent Content newsletter! Discontent Content is a newsletter aiming to collate and improve Wikipedia articles in need of more eyes and hands to get them in shape. Its unique trimodal structure allows editors to work where they feel comfortable -- with stubs and starts needing to be brought to standard, mid-quality articles with Good or Featured potential, or quality-assessed articles needing help to maintain their status.

Category 1

Articles in this category are those that need to be brought up to a minimum quality standard. Some will be stubs; others will be longer articles that nonetheless have significant concerns putting them far below B- or C-class adequacy.

This issue's Category 1 articles are:

Community Outreach Academy Elementary: A recent AfD survivor, this is one of those entertaining exceptions to the 'primary schools aren't notable' rule. How many primary schools do you know of that host Cossack militias and are endorsed by foreign embassies? Sadly, the article itself is far from representative of the school's wealth of eccentric coverage. The AfD may provide a jumping-off point for an interested writer to cover a 'run-of-the-mill' topic that's anything but.
Holy Diver (song): One of the signatures of metal legend Ronnie James Dio, this start-class article barely touches on almost forty years of history, analysis, and veneration. With literally hundreds of interviews, pages upon pages of Google Books hits, and more than a few cover versions, there's enough sourcing to cover an article many times this one's size and status.
Character class: One of the most fundamental aspects of role-playing games, this is a sad case of "Start class/Top importance". A big topic with a big history, this article is just begging for some dedicated writers to sit down and shape it into something beautiful. According to the article's talk page, this is also mirrored on at least one Fandom wiki, so getting it into shape will have broader consequences outside Wikipedia alone.

Category 2

Articles in this category, while in better current shape than Category 1, are still missing something. They have the potential to be truly high-quality content, and may have been at one point. With work, they can be brought up to dizzying heights.

This issue's Category 2 articles are:

Border Collie: This article for one of the world's most popular dog breeds is a Million Award candidate. Now at B-class, it's had a few separate issues raised on the talk page throughout its history regarding various sorts of inter-owner drama. There's a good skeleton here, and some meat on its bones would make a comprehensive reference work.
Cool World: A former GA delisted just last month, Nathan Rabin's spectacular piece for The A.V. Club back in 2007 (quite the source in its own right) comments that Wikipedia has a great entry on this, and it can again. The story of this film's failure, notorious in animation circles, is chronicled in depth in as many sources as a curious writer looking to bring this article back to glory could want. Quarter Million-tier yearly pageviews sweeten the deal.
American poetry: This big topic was an early FA -- could you make it one again? Now stymied by unsourced and dated additions, this article deserves the same artistic virtue as the works it describes.

Category 3

Articles in this category have been assessed through a content review process in the past, but may require work to be brought up to current GA/FA standard. Editors can help bring them to a level where the star or plus near their names can once again shine.

This issue's Category 3 articles are:

Python (programming language): This 2007 GA (swept in 2009) has been recommended for reassessment, although no GAR has been opened. With over two and a half million views a year, the readers of this widely read article deserve the best they can get.
Grunge: The sound of the 1990s is an FA currently undergoing review. The FAR discusses overquoting, prose, cite formatting, and length as issues -- all matters a knowledgeable editor can help with. This important article has had a star since 2005, and deserves help to keep it.
Icelandic Naming Committee: A short GA on an oddball topic with outstanding maintenance tags, in need of updating and perhaps expansion. Editors interested in going into a unique subject are encouraged to get this one back up to standard.

Letter from the Editor

Hello, wonderful people, and welcome to the very first Discontent Content! I'm glad you're here, and I'm looking forward to seeing what you can do. In future issues, I hope to use this section to brag about the achievements of subscribers -- so why not go do something worth bragging about?

Article improvement initiatives have a long and storied history on this project, and I'm honoured to add myself to the list of people trying to find one that works. My perhaps quixotic goal here is to unify a few different issues -- the maintenance of old quality-assessed articles (GAs in particular) and the sheer length of the long left tail -- in one fell swoop. I'd be happy if this ended in something like another GA sweep; I'd be happier if it ended in another GA sweep where those GAs got kept. I'd be even happier than that if this resulted in the improvement of our worst articles, not just our best. I believe in the project, and I believe in what we can be.

Most of all, I believe in you. Let's get out there and make this thing better.
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Draft on Mortal Kombat.

Hi, you know what? I'll let the page of Draft:Mortal Kombat Legends: Scorpion's Revenge be deleted. Someone already finished it. NoobMiester96 (talk) 01:08, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

@NoobMiester96: Okay, I've tagged it for deletion. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 06:12, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Than you so much. NoobMiester96 (talk) 06:13, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Accepting draft

Draft:EC1 Science and Technology Center in Łódź I would like to someone check a draft I have prepared and accept it or tell what to do to publish it Wikol86 (talk) 10:50, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

@Wikol86: You need to submit drafts to Articles for Creation to put them in the review queue. I've done this for you this time. Thanks, ƒirefly ( t · c ) 06:10, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Wikol86 (talk) 21:25, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Draft Gulshan PashayevaVasif.khalafov (talk) 17:11, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi Firefly,

We have just updated the draft. Please take a look and let us know what you think.

Best regards,

What was wrong with this suggestion?

I saw you just reverted my comment at the help desk without an edit summary. [[6]] Any reason? TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 19:03, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Apologies, that was a mis-click. I immediately self-reverted it. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 19:47, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Lindiwe Majele Sibanda

I saw that you added a BLP Prod tag to this page. I examined the history and saw that it had recently been substantially rewritten and all the references had been removed. I simply restored the version that included references. Generally, BLP Prod should only be used for recently created articles; articles with substantial history are more likely to simply be victims of vandalism. Best wishes. pburka (talk) 22:04, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

@Pburka: Ah, thanks for fixing that, must've missed it. Apologies. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 06:37, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pentium FDIV bug

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Pentium FDIV bug you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of David Eppstein -- David Eppstein (talk) 05:40, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pentium FDIV bug

The article Pentium FDIV bug you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Pentium FDIV bug for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of David Eppstein -- David Eppstein (talk) 06:00, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Discontent Content Issue 2

Discontent Content Issue #2

Welcome, subscribers, to the second Discontent Content newsletter! Discontent Content is a newsletter aiming to collate and improve Wikipedia articles in need of more eyes and hands to get them in shape. Its unique trimodal structure allows editors to work where they feel comfortable -- with stubs and starts needing to be brought to standard, mid-quality articles with Good or Featured potential, or quality-assessed articles needing help to maintain their status.

Category 1

This issue's Category 1 articles are:

Michael Krasnow: A recent AfD survivor, this article is currently a single-paragraph stub, but has substantial expansion potential in online, print, and archival sources alike. This piece is a particularly useful starting point for such a unique article.
Injury: A start-class Vital Article with the common problem of medical articles of list-formatted content that'd work better as prose.
Fetish Con: This eccentric topic that I absolutely do not apologise for placing right under "Injury" survived AfD in March. Though currently in poor stub-and-table shape, the AfD made it clear substantial expansion potential exists.

Category 2

This issue's Category 2 articles are:

Home: Another start-class Vital Article, this one is at level 2, making it one of the 100 core topics. It's also...I think it's a Million Award candidate? Honestly, man, I don't know, I checked three years and they all had frankly weird charts. This one has good bones, but the internal sections are all in need of expansion. Someone able to work on them could certainly take this to GA.
Tea: The world's most popular drink (inb4 water) was an FA back in the Brilliant Prose era, but no longer. Attempts since to bring it back to standard have failed. Will you succeed?
Mazes and Monsters: Tom Hanks' first leading role, an early DYK, and an unusual quirky topic, this article bears real potential for expansion.

Category 3

This issue's Category 3 articles are:

Death Cab for Cutie: This GA is up for GAR primarily due to uncited text. A motivated editor could save this article's plus sign by hunting down verification.
Doctor Who missing episodes: An FA at FAR and in danger of moving to FARC without engagement. This significant chunk of television history has tons written on it, and yet a number of the sources in the article are subpar. Can you save it?
Windows RT: Though this GA has been recommended for GAR since last September, it hasn't been brought to the process. No reasons are given on the talk, but the lead looks in need of a trim to bring its information to the body, and there's more than a bit of WP:OVERCITE.

Letter from the Editor

Updates on articles from last issue:

Grunge has been delisted following an unsuccessful FAR. Anyone who wants to get this important article back to FAC is strongly encouraged.

Reader suggestion:
BOZ, a founding member of the new WikiProject Cemeteries, has an additional suggestion for anyone looking for further inspiration:

Bohemian National Cemetery (Chicago): A Czech cemetery in Chicago and the first I've heard of with an area dedicated specifically to fans of a given baseball team, this cemetery has ties to outsider art, historical shipwrecks, and one of the city's founding ethnic communities.

Thank you all, once again, for your subscription and your work on Wikipedia!
Vaticidalprophet 18:33, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:40, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

DRN Clerk Bot

Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:32, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Draft notice bot down?

It doesn't seem to have run since April 22. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:07, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

@Pppery: Thanks - small bug caused it to choke when the first rev of a draft had been revdel'd. Now fixed! ƒirefly ( t · c ) 15:53, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

FireflyBot II down?

Hi Firefly, I just wanted to let you know that FireflyBot II (talk · contribs) might be down, as it hasn't reviewed pending changes since April 22, see [7]. The underlying bug with pending changes seems to still be present. Thanks, Mz7 (talk) 22:04, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

@Mz7: Thanks - have given it a whack to get it started again. A job was stuck in the job queue preventing any other runs from starting. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 06:11, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Some notifications are sent to the wrong people

I recently got a notification from FireflyBot about a draft article that I didn't create. This is probably a bug: it should have been sent to the person who created the draft article. Jarble (talk) 15:44, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

@Jarble: Sorry about that - that's a very rare edge case however. You were the original creator of the page (see here), however the redirect you created was then expanded into an article subsequently moved to Draftspace. I'll see if there's a way to catch these edge cases and prevent notifications... ƒirefly ( t · c ) 16:15, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Question about copyright

Hi Firefly,

If I'm not mistaken, the Constitution of the International Arab Trade Union is within the public domain, as it was written originally in 1953. https://arabtradeunion.org/upload/constitution%20_eng.pdf

Is it still violating Wikipedia's copyright policy to post something in the public domain?

Thank you!

Jananteeni (talk) 09:39, 25 April 2021 (UTC) Jananteeni

@Jananteeni: If something is in the public domain (and I've not checked that the document linked is in fact PD), then you can include text from it in Wikipedia. You should attribute the content with a suitable template. Thanks, ƒirefly ( t · c ) 16:17, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your clarification. Jananteeni (talk) 22:32, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Jananteeni

Firefly bot

Hello, Firefly,

For some reason, every time I check User:SD0001/Bot activity monitor/Report, it says that Firefly Bot hasn't been active even though I see evidence every day of it posting G13 notices to user talk pages. Do you know why it doesn't appear active on the bot report? Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:12, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

@Liz: I think the bot's entry in the config file was wrong - I've corrected it and it should hopefully be picked up correctly now. Thanks, ƒirefly ( t · c ) 16:10, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Well, I just want the bot to get credit for all the good work it does! I love checking user talk pages and seeing that the bot has posted an early warning message to editors about their soon-to-be-stale drafts. I don't have evidence that it has decreased the number of drafts that get deleted but I have the feeling it has. Some editors just need a reminder that their draft is still out there. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:06, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Pentium FDIV bug

The article Pentium FDIV bug you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Pentium FDIV bug for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of David Eppstein -- David Eppstein (talk) 07:21, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Public Oversight (United States)

Hi Firelfly. I would like to request userfication for my writeup, because it has tremendous worthwhile value to society. I need to improve it more, but it's just not easy because university libraries are closed due to the COVID-19 epidemic. I read up on userfication, and I think the article is prime for it. However, I don't know if notifying you is all I have to do. This is basic material, without salacious comments, and with straight up links to academic sources. Thanks for all your help. Lord Milner (talk) 16:35, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

@Lord Milner: Which article/draft are we talking about here, sorry? Thanks, ƒirefly ( t · c ) 16:40, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

This draft: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Draft:Public_Oversight_(United_States) Lord Milner (talk) 16:16, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Linter report is stuck

The Linter report appears to need a cookie. It hasn't refreshed in a day or so. Thanks! – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:19, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: cookie supplied - it should start updating again now! ƒirefly ( t · c ) 20:50, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

whosampled from their page.

i just want to add some link of their page at the whosampled. Benjamin imo (talk) 18:35, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

DRN Clerking

I think that FireflyBot has stopped updating the DRN case status. It says that the last updates to the Pavol Hnilica dispute were made 5 and 6 days ago. Both I and one of the parties have taken part in the case within the past 24 hours. I see that the bot is running, and is warning about drafts that are about to expire, so it has only stopped some of its work. Is there something on the noticeboard that is confusing the bot? Robert McClenon (talk) 04:42, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: the bot was running in a trial period, we're now just waiting for the BRFA to be approved and then the work can resume! Thanks, ƒirefly ( t · c ) 12:58, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Note that the BRFA has now been approved. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

@Pppery and Robert McClenon: Task now running! ƒirefly ( t · c ) 08:13, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

The edit summary still says "(BOT in trial)" even though it is no longer in trial. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:53, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:07, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

@Pppery and Robert McClenon: the "in trial" thing was a one-off bug, as I'd forgotten to switch that off. Subsequent edits display correctly. And you're most welcome! ƒirefly ( t · c ) 16:39, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

CCI

Hey, could you please check 2018 Pacific hurricane season, Hurricane Bud, Tropical Storm Ileana, Tropical Depression Nineteen-E, Hurricane Walaka,Timeline of the 2018 Pacific hurricane season, Tropical Storm Carlotta, Hurricane Lane, Hurricane Rosa, Tropical Storm Vicente, Hurricane Hector, Hurricane Olivia, Hurricane Sergio, and Hurricane Willa to see if they have any kind of issues in relation to the CCI? Noah^Talk 10:11, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

@Hurricane Noah: all articles under the scope of WPTC are being checked (see Wikipedia:Contributor_copyright_investigations/WikiProject_Tropical_cyclones), so we'll get to all of those eventually! ƒirefly ( t · c ) 10:38, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

I was just asking since Sennecaster said a FTC should not occur until all of those get checked. Noah^Talk 10:41, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean by FTC - @Sennecaster: can you shed any light on this? ƒirefly ( t · c ) 10:49, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Hurricane Noah wanted to featured topic that season, but the entire season has to be checked because there's probably copyvio and cutpaste moves that need to be attributed. He approached me offwiki to do this before we opened the CCI to do this. Sennecaster (What now?) 12:14, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Aha, got it, so it's a request to prioritise those pages. I'll see what I can do, they'll all need checking eventually so the order doesn't really matter to us! Thanks Senne. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 12:23, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Featured topic candidate Noah^Talk 10:50, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

@Hurricane Noah: all of the pages listed above have been cleared. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 17:06, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Did you check the 2018 pacific hurricane season article? I see a listing for the pacific typhoon one for that year. Noah^Talk 17:35, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

@Hurricane Noah: Oops - now checked that one as well! ƒirefly ( t · c ) 07:35, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

Discontent Content Issue 3

Discontent Content Issue #3

Welcome, subscribers, to the third Discontent Content newsletter! Discontent Content is a newsletter aiming to collate and improve Wikipedia articles in need of more eyes and hands to get them in shape. Its unique trimodal structure allows editors to work where they feel comfortable -- with stubs and starts needing to be brought to standard, mid-quality articles with Good or Featured potential, or quality-assessed articles needing help to maintain their status.

Category 1

This issue's Category 1 articles are:

Gambling in Nevada: An unusual move -- a redirect? But if you look at the history, you'll see why. This sweeping and expansive topic about the home of Reno and Las Vegas was recently converted to a redirect due to its almost complete lack of useful content. Nonetheless, this subject is bursting with potential and can have a full article written about it.
SpongeBob SquarePants: Original Theme Highlights: This recent AfD survivor was the first soundtrack written for the popular series. More unorthodox, for a children's animation album, it features songs by Pantera and Ween and was given a vinyl re-release in 2016 for the...ironic market? Certainly some market. There's a fair amount of coverage here to write a solid article on.
Death by misadventure: A surprisingly major topic to be a one-paragraph stub, this is a legal and colloquial term both. The article is currently sourced in whole to a single page in a single book!

Category 2

This issue's Category 2 articles are:

Rope (film): Hitchcock's classic attempt to shoot an entire film in a single shot, Rope is both a significant note in cinematic history and, in recent years, conceptualized as an important piece of Hays Code-era gay cinema. It's a good watch, and the article should be just as solid. Currently it's a C-class with some unsourced content and an overreliance on block quotes.
Rachel Pollack: One of the major occult writers of the 20th and 21st centuries (a book of hers is prominently involved in my quixotic "bring the Major Arcana to FT" plan), not to mention a significant fiction and comics writer collaborating with names such as Neil Gaiman and Grant Morrison, Pollack's article has quite a bit of room for improvement to quality-assessed levels. Though her article's lead is short and the work as a whole underreferenced, plenty of opportunities exist to improve it.
Narrative paradigm: Despite this article's High or Top importance across multiple wikiprojects, it's in a sorry state. Perhaps unsurprisingly, it was subjected to a WikiEd course some time back. Significant potential lies within the idea that all human communication is narrative; the article must be accordingly strong.

Category 3

This issue's Category 3 articles are:

Jaime King: This GA on a famous model of the 1990s has been recommended for GAR. Unreferenced sections and low-quality references are a problem for this BLP.
Dartmouth College: This FA is at FARC and on the brink of delisting, but the issues mentioned -- accessibility, WP:LEADCITE compliance, and overreliance on primary sources -- are far from insurmountable, and an editor could certainly polish off this star.
Tamil language: Another FARC, this is the native language of 75 million people (including my own stepmother) and the language of one of the world's great classical traditions. It's afflicted by a lack of sourcing and particularly issues with inline citations.

Letter from the Editor

This issue's subscriber suggestion, again from BOZ, is:

Dice: This former GA was delisted in 2009. It's a big topic to a lot of different subjects, and deserves a top-quality article.

This is ridiculously late, and I apologise -- I've been writing articles :) I've also, excitingly, landed a couple 'real publishing' writing gigs, which I'll be plenty excited to talk about when they're published. Due to the current increased amount of writing I have to do on a regular basis both on- and off-wiki, I'm planning to drop this down to monthly so I can spread out my responsibilities a bit.
Vaticidalprophet 09:08, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Pentium FDIV bug

On 20 May 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pentium FDIV bug, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a hardware bug in early versions of the Intel Pentium CPU led to the affected processors being recalled, in what was the first full recall of a computer chip? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pentium FDIV bug. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Pentium FDIV bug), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Chicken gun

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Chicken gun you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:21, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Chicken gun

The article Chicken gun you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Chicken gun for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:21, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Hui Pan-Nationalism

Hi there, Just wondering why you removed sections of my article? Was it in breach of copyright? Sorry I'm only new here and am just learning! Many Thanks!!!

@Linnea2853: Yes, unfortunately it was copied or closely paraphrased from the URL linked in my reversion. I would normally leave a note on an editor's talk page when I revert copyright violations, but I don't appear to have done so this time - my apologies! For more info, see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing and Wikipedia:Copyrights. Happy to answer any questions if you have them. Thanks, ƒirefly ( t · c ) 11:30, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

hi firefly, i'm new on wikipedia as contributer but i wanna add some more articles but i have no right idea how to do, like few famous books of indian novelists i wanna add in wikipedia but i don't know what are minimum conditions to add them... is there is any telegram group or facebook group... where i can discuss with wikipedia contributers who are doing great and they can give me suggestions about it because i don't wanna get deleted my articles just after publishing, because of lack of info. if it happend all the time then my account will be blocked.

Reesashukla (talk) 05:58, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

mistake?

Hello, i think this edit was a mistake.

https://www.daily-bangladesh.com/english/Birshrestha-Hamidur-Rahmans-birthday-today/36381 was published on 2 February 2020. This is a version from 14 December 2019. There is no way editor can go to future and copy that part. It's other way around, they copied from wikipedia. Please revert your edit unless there is any other problem. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 15:05, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

@আফতাবুজ্জামান: quite right, I missed that what with all the back-and-forth removal and re-addition. Fixed, with apologies. firefly ( t · c ) 15:09, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Discontent Content Issue 4

Discontent Content Issue #4

Welcome, subscribers, to the fourth Discontent Content newsletter! Discontent Content is a newsletter aiming to collate and improve Wikipedia articles in need of more eyes and hands to get them in shape. Its unique trimodal structure allows editors to work where they feel comfortable -- with stubs and starts needing to be brought to standard, mid-quality articles with Good or Featured potential, or quality-assessed articles needing help to maintain their status.

Category 1

This issue's Category 1 articles are:

Lineage (anthropology): A shocking subject to be a sourceless stub, this Vital 4 obviously has so much more to write about than its three sentences. In this state, even a basic improvement would do a ton.
Police memorabilia collecting: Survived AfD not long ago, with plenty of sources given in the discussion to use in the article. "Further reading" may in particular be of use.
Koror City: Palau may be a small island nation, but having its largest city by far be a stub is unacceptable. (We've managed to write much more about it over at Wikivoyage, where it's guide-class and about to make a Main Page appearance.) Vital 5 with a healthy couple hundred pageviews a day, the widespread use of English in its native land makes it a more accessible topic than editors afraid of working in countries they're unfamiliar with might worry.

Category 2

This issue's Category 2 articles are:

List of premature obituaries: A former FL, an eccentric and popular topic, and a refreshing change from the sports statistics and "list of awards received by X" that populate FLC. This list was demoted in 2009 for sourcing concerns, which even at the time were mentioned as potentially fixable.
War: Let's just jump straight into the Overtopics, shall we? This Vital 2 really shows what "Top-importance to the whole encyclopedia" means. Currently B-class -- more B- in my estimate, maybe -- it stands out that non-editor readers on the talk page have qualms with the scope, in particular omissions they expected to find.
The Picture of Dorian Gray: Once GA, now C. ~~Still relatable.~~ This seminal work of literature can certainly be returned to where it was.

Category 3

This issue's Category 3 articles are:

Byzantine Empire: From the metapedian perspective, this is perhaps our most important FA -- the oldest, promoted in 2001 (older than some of this newsletter's subscribers!), to retain FA status unbroken to the present day. Speaking exopedianly, it's still decidedly vital, with nearly three million page views in the last year. FAR was suggested late last year; it hasn't been brought to the chopping block yet, but an article this important both inside and outside of the project deserves to remain in top shape.
Underoath: This GA is recommended for GAR, with complaints about long-unaddressed maintenance tags and sections in dire need of updates. The article gets hundreds of views a day and is translated across plenty of projects.
Acute myeloid leukemia: Medical articles aren't scary! Really! They're not! If I can work on them, so can you! That aside, this FA was given a FAR notice in January. There are sourcing concerns, conveniently assisted by sources left on the talk page. Non-editor readers on the talk have raised concerns about inaccurate prognostic statements.

Letter from the Editor

This issue's reader suggestion is brought to you by Sennecaster:

Margery Wolf: Perhaps the fastest GA delist known to the project, this article was delisted two days after promotion upon discovery of foundational copyvio. Though it was reduced to just four short paragraphs, the sourcing obviously exists to create a high-quality article.

Yes, I know I said I was going to switch to monthly. Let's just go "Vat doesn't really Get Time" and run with it.

The Core Contest is on its last day of entries, and I've picked articles here with an eye to that. It's the first time it's running since 2017, and I for one am looking forward to overhauling Prehistoric religion. If you feel inspired by anything here, get in there quick!
Vaticidalprophet 17:06, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Bot left a message to the wrong user

The bot left me a message that a draft I created, Draft:Creating List of unarmed African Americans killed by law enforcement officers in the United States, had not been edited for five months and was about to be deleted.

I did not create this draft. Some other user created the draft at this title. I moved it to Draft:List of unarmed African Americans killed by law enforcement officers in the United States, where it was later moved to main article namespace. The only thing I have to do with the draft is this one move.

Can the bot somehow differentiate between creations of redirects from moves and creations of real drafts? JIP | Talk 23:50, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

@JIP: Not exactly, however what I can do is prevent notifications for redirects where the only content is the creation of the redirect and the addition of AfC templates. That will prevent cases like this from recurring. firefly ( t · c ) 09:03, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Chicken gun

On 9 June 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Chicken gun, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that as part of the type certification process, aircraft manufacturers routinely fire dead chickens at windshields with a chicken gun in order to simulate bird strikes? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chicken gun. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Chicken gun), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 01:33, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

--- You reverted my change back to 350 mph. Please read up on typical landing and takeoff speeds for for any aircraft, 747, 737, even an f-18. They are nowhere near 350 mph. Cruising speed at altitude,yes, but not with the flaps down during takeoff and landing. I do not cite any source because any aircraft buff knows this as common knowledge. Besides, aircraft tires would disintegrate at that speed. You may revert your reversion at your leisure. Have a great day and stay healthy. --- 206.45.14.232 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 13:37, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

CFCH-FM radio signs on

I guess the person who created the article for CFCH-FM in North Bay, Ontario spoke to soon! Vista launched the new radio station on Tuesday, June 15, 2021 with a country music format branded as Country 90.5, so I updated the CFCH-FM draft. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:CFCH-FM

66.102.89.105 · Special:Contributions/66.102.89.105 15:00, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello Firefly,

Hello Firefly, My name is Eleonu - I am new to Wikipedia. I am sorry if I am once again doing the wrong thing. I posted my Autobiography on my Wikipedia and it was deleted by Firefly a few days ago. I didn't know one wasn't allowed to write about themselves. I am sorry for that.

I wasn't able to save my article before it was deleted. Please kindly send me a copy of the deleted content to my registered email address.

Thank you. Eme Eleonu Eleonu (talk) 16:20, 15 June 2021 (UTC).

Eleonu, I didn't delete the page (I am not an administrator so cannot do this). I merely tagged it for deletion. You'll need to contact the administrator who deleted it (in this case Athaenara) and ask them for a copy of the contents. firefly ( t · c ) 16:33, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Sneed

Hello, please take a look at my response to you on the Sneed talk page, I believe I outlined sufficient reason to include a link to E-I-E-I-(Annoyed_Grunt) within the "See Also" section of the article, which I would appreciate if you add as I don't have editor permission for that article. 2601:405:4400:9420:3914:6D2D:6247:2258 (talk) 21:23, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Notice of discussion at AN/I

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/London Buses route 123. Thank you. Thryduulf (talk) 22:17, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Discontent Content Issue 5

Discontent Content Issue #5

Welcome, subscribers, to the fifth Discontent Content newsletter! Discontent Content is a newsletter aiming to collate and improve Wikipedia articles in need of more eyes and hands to get them in shape. Its unique trimodal structure allows editors to work where they feel comfortable -- with stubs and starts needing to be brought to standard, mid-quality articles with Good or Featured potential, or quality-assessed articles needing help to maintain their status.

Category 1

This issue's Category 1 articles are:

Isolar – 1976 Tour: A substantial musical event for one of the most influential albums of its era, but with a rather spindly, table-focused article (I also note no one seems to have given post-inflation numbers for any of the figures).
Occultism (Islam): "Major topic that's a literal stub because it's about something outside the comfort zone of the average editor" of the day. Esotericism in one of the world's major exoteric religions is, of course, something which can be written about extensively.
G & G v Wikimedia Foundation Inc: Going meta for a moment...This is an interesting case, and it's a shame we discuss it only as a paragraph. It would be fascinating to read further on this topic.

Category 2

This issue's Category 2 articles are:

Misophonia: A concept, symptom, or disorder -- no one's quite yet drawn the borderlands -- where people are unusually upset at noises such as chewing sounds. The idea may sound odd, but it does distress people with it and those around them. The subject is very popular, with Half Million Award-tier page views, but the readers are served by a rather weak article.
Sparks (band): This eccentric, creative band was a GA long ago, but delisted in 2010. Though undersourced, the article certainly has potential to return to its old status.
Han Xin: One of the great military leaders of ancient China is graced by a massively undersourced article. Several sections have none at all.

Category 3

This issue's Category 3 articles are:

Wind: This FA is on a huge, important topic, but its star needs some polishing. FAR notice has been given for significant uncited passages. To quote the talk page, the article has good bones, and it can certainly be restored to modern FA status if anyone is able to work on it.
Jeopardy!: The article for perhaps one of the most famous game shows of all time is at GAR for citation issues. Most of the issues brought up can be fixed quite easily, such as locating page numbers.
French fries: Tasty, but needs more sauce. The GAR discusses unsourced sections and unreliable sourcing; I also notice some pretty blatant prose issues and a spindly lead.

Letter from the Editor

This issue's reader suggestion from Sennecaster:

Maasai people: The Vital 4 article for this major East African ethnic group was recently significantly reduced due to copyvio. It needs urgent work to restore cored-out content, but the references are still available in the article to simplify the process.

One topic I've been broadly thinking about lately is the concept of GA sweeps. There hasn't been one in well over a decade; discussion of a new one is traditionally stymied by the sheer number of GAs that would need sweeping, considering there are over ten times as many as there were at the last sweep. Nonetheless, there's no dispute that many GAs don't really count as 99.5th percentile articles, or even decent-quality articles (whether one's own personal reading of WIAGA is closer to the former or the latter, and how different those things are, is an exercise for the reader).

I've been brainstorming ideas, and I've been wondering if we can tackle the problem with limited-scope sweeps. One idea would be sweeping popular or vital articles -- those that get enough views to make up a significant proportion of the "GA experience" to readers. Another would be focusing on shorter GAs, which might trend towards a less in-depth treatment of the topic than could really justify the rating. There may very well be a path here to maintaining GA standards, and either of those would have the benefit that they might be more likely to encourage people to work on rather than simply delist articles -- popular topics with lots of interested parties willing to help, or smaller topics that don't seem like too big a challenge to pick up.
Vaticidalprophet 04:16, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

FireflyBot

Is there any way that FireflyBot can distinguish between the person who created a draft, and the person who moved it into draftspace? I'm guessing not, but it wouldn't hurt to ask. I ask because of this. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 16:35, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

I dream of horses, not really. I could skip any edits that indicate a move, but even then that wouldn't necessarily get the draft's actual author. What I can do, if you wish, is add you to the 'exclusions list' so that the bot skips leaving you messages. firefly ( t · c ) 06:16, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Oh, that's what I thought. I can just keep pinging the actual author on my talk page. No need to put me on a list. I dream of horses (Contribs) (Talk) 06:17, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Process for nominating article for FAR

Great that you're considering investing some time in this. Thanks!

The instructions for nominating can be found here: Wikipedia:Featured article review. What I'd hope for with a bot:

A user would do something like:

Place {{subst:FAR}} at the top of the talk page of the nominated article. Write "FAR listing" in the edit summary box. Click on "Publish changes". Here, some extra info (the diff of notification) will probs be user-input as the required talk-page notice is quite free-form.
From the FAR template, click on the red "initiate the review" link.
List the problems with the article.

A bot might help with:

Remove entry from Wikipedia:Featured article review/notices given (not always guaranteed it’s on that list)
Find out which users and projects to notify (nominators, if possibly contributors with > 15% authorship, listed WikiProjects)
Notify said users and projects
Place nomination on top of list of nominated article
Put FAR in fourth column of article’s entry at Wikipedia:Unreviewed featured articles/2020 (not all articles on that list) FemkeMilene (talk) 16:26, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	For your help with Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/ZestyLemonz, thank you. I'm really glad that you caught this. KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 06:20, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

@L235: Thanks! You're most welcome, glad to be of use. firefly ( t · c ) 08:26, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

ICAEW

Hello firefly, thank you for your feedback regarding my edits to the page, Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales. https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Institute_of_Chartered_Accountants_in_England_and_Wales

I work for the organisation in question, and my associated work email address has been registered to my Wikipedia profile for several years.

Does this not provide me with the authority to make updates to the page?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrsThompsonSays (talk • contribs) 16:01, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

MrsThompsonSays, if you work for the organisation you're writing about, and are therefore effectively paid to edit Wikipedia, you will need to disclose this in line with Wikipedia's policy on paid editing. Furthermore, regardless of whether you work for an organisation, Wikipedia cannot accept direct copy-pasting or close paraphrasing of copyrighted materials. Finally, Wikipedia does not work on the basis of 'authority' - every editor has equal 'right' to edit about any topic, so long as their edits are otherwise acceptable by policy. Thanks, firefly ( t · c ) 16:23, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Maloca

I added new sources and expanded an article about malocas that was marked as lacking sources and a stub. These changes were undone by you on June 18th. It is now lacking sources and once again a stub. Can you explain why these changes were undone? It made the article better, more trustworthy and more informative. Thanks, l.

@Loltardo: I reverted the addition because it constituted in large part a copyright violation of another website - namely this one. Wikipedia cannot accept text that would violate copyright. For more info, see our frequently asked questions about copyright page, or feel free to ask me here. Thanks! firefly ( t · c ) 16:39, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Eddy Chen and Perfect pitch

Not sure if I’m doing this right but in reference to your edit July 7:

Hello, I'm Firefly. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Absolute pitch, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. firefly ( t · c ) 11:28, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

You can reference their channel, the fact that Eddy has perfect pitch is well known among the violin community. Quote from website - https://theviolinchannel.com/vc-vox-pop-do-you-have-perfect-pitch-born-with-it-question/

Australian Funster, TwoSet Violinist, Eddy ‘Shreddy’ Chen: [PICTURED] “Perfect ... yes ... developed it ..."

Here is another site with interviews referencing Eddys perfect pitch

https://maimislang.medium.com/these-music-nerds-are-what-the-world-needs-now-a81d3f5bd70d

Here is a link to one their videos including the reference to Eddys perfect pitch. They have 3 million people watching them that all know this to be fact. They’ve proven it many times. This is just one video referencing it.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=kw397ZIZcqA&feature=share

Please fix this.

Articles for Creation July 2021 Backlog Elimination Drive

Hello Firefly:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running until 31 July 2021.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is currently a backlog of over 1800 articles, so start reviewing articles. We're looking forward to your help!

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Deleted content question

Hello, I'm Firefly. I wanted to let you know that one or more external links you added to Gary Michael Berman have been removed because they seemed to be inappropriate for an encyclopedia. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page, or take a look at our guidelines about links. firefly ( t · c ) 14:31, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. I thought the links were helpful as they describe a fuller picture of this person, very helpful to those considering going into business or other dealings with him. Would it be acceptable if there were fewer links, such as two rather than four? ReadMoreAboutIt (talk) 15:20, 9 July 2021 (UTC) ReadMoreAboutIt (talk) 02:18, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Deleted content

Hi Firefly Can you give me an answer to the question in the discussion ‘deleted content question’? I would like to have two of the deleted links put back into the Wikipedia page in question Thanks ReadMoreAboutIt (talk) 12:04, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

ReadMoreAboutIt, hi, sorry, been a busy weekend. The issue wasn't the main links, but the adding/duplicating of links to "http://www.areretail.com/#!/" which appear to be irrelevant to the subject at hand. You are entirely free to add the other links back, they won't be a problem at all. firefly ( t · c ) 15:23, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Anna Sorokin

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Anna Sorokin you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aussie Article Writer -- Aussie Article Writer (talk) 07:21, 17 July 2021 (UTC)